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ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 11 08:00:09 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
ifat_afek | Hi :-) | 08:00 |
annarez | Hi :) | 08:00 |
peipei | Hi :) | 08:00 |
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idan_hefetz | hi | 08:02 |
ifat_afek | Agenda: | 08:03 |
ifat_afek | * Status and updates | 08:03 |
ifat_afek | * Vancouver Preparations | 08:03 |
ifat_afek | * Open Discussion | 08:03 |
ifat_afek | #topic Status and updates | 08:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Status and updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:03 | |
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ifat_afek | I don’t have any special updates. I started implementing get_changes for the static datasource. We need it for a demo. Should not take too long. | 08:03 |
ifat_afek | That’s it for me | 08:03 |
annarez | i'll update | 08:04 |
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annarez | I started to work on RCA and alarm history | 08:04 |
annarez | I have an optional design and I want to try it before fully implement | 08:05 |
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annarez | thats it for me, hope I'll have more updates next week :) | 08:06 |
idan_hefetz | my update: working on graph init from database,I will add the blueprint soon | 08:06 |
ifat_afek | Thanks :-) | 08:06 |
najjar | i'll update | 08:06 |
nivo | hi | 08:07 |
najjar | i started to work on Promethues datasource | 08:07 |
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eyalb | \o/ | 08:07 |
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najjar | reading on how promethues works and how we can integrate with it | 08:08 |
najjar | it seems we need to use the Alertmanager for that | 08:09 |
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najjar | i'll update what will happen in this field | 08:09 |
najjar | thanks | 08:09 |
ifat_afek | Thanks | 08:10 |
ifat_afek | I know that idan_kinori is progressing with the k8s datasource | 08:10 |
ifat_afek | Anyone else? | 08:10 |
peipei | I'll update about diagnose action. | 08:11 |
peipei | I think that there is truly no need to raise deduced alarm, but the problem is repeatitive diagnose. | 08:11 |
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peipei | And maybe there will be a way to filter them. Besides, I'm not sure about whether equivalence will be fully implemented in Rocky? | 08:14 |
ifat_afek | peipei: Have you considered the options we suggested in the last email? do you think it will work? | 08:14 |
peipei | Yes, I think it works. | 08:14 |
ifat_afek | And we definitely should find a way to prevent repetative diagnose actions | 08:14 |
ifat_afek | What do you mean by “'m not sure about whether equivalence will be fully implemented in Rocky”? is it still needed? | 08:15 |
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peipei | Actually, I think diagnose action does not depend on equivalence since action is triggered in templates | 08:17 |
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ifat_afek | I think so too. I think that it looked like you needed euquivalence to handle the duplciation between the real alarms and the deduced alarms. But if you are not going to use deduced alarms, most of the complexity is gone | 08:18 |
ifat_afek | Solving the problem of not doing repetative diagnose actions seems much much easier | 08:18 |
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ifat_afek | On our side, idan_kinori just reached the point where he tries to unite the k8s nodes with the Nova instances. He tries to do it without using an equivalence mechanism. We will know in a few days if it works, and I hope we won’t need the equivalence for resources | 08:19 |
peipei | Ok, and I think I will try to find a way to filter repeatitive diagnose. | 08:20 |
ifat_afek | What do you mean by filter? | 08:21 |
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yujunz | prevent ? | 08:21 |
ifat_afek | Ok :-) | 08:21 |
ifat_afek | Anything else regarding this issue, or shall we move on? | 08:22 |
peipei | Move on please | 08:23 |
ifat_afek | OK | 08:23 |
ifat_afek | #topic Vancouver Preparations | 08:23 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Vancouver Preparations (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:23 | |
ifat_afek | We can submit proposals for forums in Vancouver until Sunday EOD | 08:24 |
ifat_afek | Etherpad for forum ideas: | 08:24 |
ifat_afek | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-vitrage-brainstorming | 08:24 |
ifat_afek | I plan to submit today the two ideas that are already | 08:24 |
ifat_afek | You can still suggest new topics | 08:24 |
ifat_afek | Forum submission: | 08:24 |
ifat_afek | #link http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ | 08:24 |
ifat_afek | Regarding the sessions – I started writing the ‘project updates’ presentation outline. | 08:25 |
ifat_afek | That’s it for me | 08:25 |
najjar | I'm doing the Lab session, now i'm checking how to get OVH to our needs | 08:26 |
najjar | eyalb is doing the session with me | 08:27 |
yujunz | I suppose I shall draft the procactive RCA part based on the current proposal, i.e. diagnose without deduced alarm. | 08:28 |
yujunz | However, there is a some risk on my VISA. | 08:29 |
ifat_afek | Crossing our fingers.. | 08:30 |
yujunz | My passport is still under administrative processing by US | 08:30 |
yujunz | I need to get it back then submit for Canada VISA | 08:30 |
yujunz | That's all | 08:30 |
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najjar | 😢 | 08:31 |
ifat_afek | Any other update regarding Vancouver? | 08:32 |
ifat_afek | #topic Open Discussion | 08:34 |
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ifat_afek | Any other issues to discuss? | 08:34 |
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ifat_afek | Bye, see you next week! | 08:36 |
eyalb | bye | 08:36 |
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ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:36 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 08:36 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 11 08:36:46 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:36 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-04-11-08.00.html | 08:36 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-04-11-08.00.txt | 08:36 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-04-11-08.00.log.html | 08:36 |
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Jeffrey4l | #startmeeting kolla | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 11 16:00:15 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Jeffrey4l. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:00 |
Jeffrey4l | #topic rollcall | 16:01 |
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spsurya__ | \0 | 16:01 |
duonghq | o/ | 16:01 |
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gbuteau | o/ | 16:01 |
mgiles | o/ | 16:01 |
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egonzalez | O/ | 16:02 |
chason | o/ | 16:02 |
bmace | o/ | 16:02 |
Jeffrey4l | #topic announcements | 16:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:02 | |
Jeffrey4l | stable-policy tag has been removed in kolla | 16:02 |
Jeffrey4l | more info please check http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-April/129265.html | 16:03 |
Jeffrey4l | this is a big change for us. | 16:03 |
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Jeffrey4l | with this, we could backport bp | 16:03 |
Jeffrey4l | but we need care about this . and should not break anything. | 16:04 |
Jeffrey4l | any other from community? | 16:04 |
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Jeffrey4l | ok. seems we have no agenda today. | 16:05 |
Jeffrey4l | #topic Open Discussion | 16:05 |
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Jeffrey4l | i have one for open discussion. | 16:05 |
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Jeffrey4l | we have a long review queue now. some develop start complain that patches have no reviewers to check. | 16:05 |
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Jeffrey4l | so please check the review queue we you have times. | 16:07 |
gema | sgoel: you around? | 16:07 |
gema | Jeffrey4l: we had a question | 16:07 |
Jeffrey4l | moreover, there are two tools may helpful to find which patch is ready to ber reviewed | 16:07 |
Jeffrey4l | gema, yep | 16:07 |
Jeffrey4l | #link https://github.com/openstack/gertty | 16:07 |
gema | Jeffrey4l: trying to get sgoel to explain, but essentially we are seeing a race condition when deploying with the kolla tools container | 16:08 |
gema | and were wondering if this is something someone else has seen | 16:08 |
Jeffrey4l | #link https://github.com/openstack/gerrit-dash-creator | 16:08 |
Jeffrey4l | check these interesting tools :D | 16:08 |
sgoel | hey | 16:09 |
Jeffrey4l | gema, could you explain the details? | 16:09 |
gema | sgoel: go for it, please | 16:09 |
Jeffrey4l | what kind of race condition? | 16:09 |
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Jeffrey4l | hello sgoel | 16:09 |
sgoel | I am seeing a connectivity error caught in kolla_toolbox.py | 16:10 |
Jeffrey4l | sgoel, better provides some error logs. | 16:10 |
sgoel | this is seen when exec_start is called | 16:10 |
Jeffrey4l | i don't see the error | 16:10 |
Jeffrey4l | sgoel, could you file a bug with some logs ? | 16:11 |
sgoel | If I put in a delay or a retry the deployment works fine | 16:11 |
sgoel | Ok, I can post logs. | 16:11 |
gema | Jeffrey4l: so this is something you think may be worth looking into | 16:11 |
gema | Jeffrey4l: we'll raise a bug then | 16:12 |
Jeffrey4l | this issue may be possible. i guss some former container isn't ready during calling kolla_toolbox.py | 16:13 |
gema | ack | 16:13 |
Jeffrey4l | if so, adding a task in kolla-ansible to wait until the container is really ready will be helpful | 16:13 |
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Jeffrey4l | anyway, need logs to check what's really going on. | 16:14 |
gema | Jeffrey4l: we have no better way of blocking than delays? | 16:14 |
Jeffrey4l | gema, yes. adding a wait task in ansible is the only way. | 16:14 |
gema | Jeffrey4l: ok | 16:14 |
Jeffrey4l | i don't think docker itself have better solution. | 16:15 |
gema | Jeffrey4l: no, kubernetes however.. ;) | 16:15 |
Jeffrey4l | another solution is: adding the wait logical in the later container. | 16:15 |
gema | Jeffrey4l: either way, we will raise it and investigate/try to fix | 16:15 |
Jeffrey4l | kubernetes just retry many times. | 16:15 |
gema | yup | 16:15 |
Jeffrey4l | which is not a good solution i think | 16:15 |
gema | good point | 16:16 |
Jeffrey4l | we could use the same method: use "until" in the ansible task. | 16:16 |
Jeffrey4l | then retry until it works. :D | 16:16 |
gema | that may be better than random delay tasks, tbh, but until we know why it is failing, we don't really know | 16:16 |
gema | Jeffrey4l: you gave us enough to get started, thanks | 16:17 |
Jeffrey4l | yeah | 16:17 |
sgoel | Jeffrey4l: agree that a retry framework will be good. i'll raise a bug today with logs | 16:17 |
Jeffrey4l | cool. thanks gema sgoel | 16:17 |
rwellum | Kubernetes, you'd create an init container that does a readiness probe :) | 16:18 |
Jeffrey4l | rwellum, it should not related to init container. just adding readiness probe for pod(container) is OK. | 16:18 |
rwellum | Pretty much no-one just allows the containers to crash and retry anymore | 16:18 |
rwellum | Yeah - so something similar then? | 16:18 |
Jeffrey4l | rwellum, but it is not good. say it as "endless retry". :/ | 16:19 |
Jeffrey4l | i still think we need some to do the orchestration works on k8s. k8s don't handle this properly. | 16:20 |
Jeffrey4l | then any voluteer for next open topic? | 16:21 |
gbuteau | o/ | 16:21 |
Jeffrey4l | gbuteau please | 16:21 |
gbuteau | hi all, wrt blueprint neutron-ipam-driver-infoblox - thank you for accepting the kolla changes, although I notice that the kolla-ansible changes are still pending | 16:21 |
gbuteau | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555032/ | 16:21 |
gbuteau | i'm happy to provide more information or updates if needed | 16:22 |
Jeffrey4l | gbuteau cool. i added to my review queue, and left a "recheck" to rerun the CI jobs again. | 16:23 |
Jeffrey4l | make sure it won't break anything. | 16:23 |
gbuteau | thank you Jeffrey41 | 16:23 |
Jeffrey4l | i will review it tomorrow | 16:23 |
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Jeffrey4l | anything esle? gbuteau | 16:24 |
gbuteau | That's it, thx again Jeffrey41 | 16:24 |
Jeffrey4l | thanks gbuteau. | 16:25 |
Jeffrey4l | any other topics? | 16:25 |
Jeffrey4l | seems no | 16:27 |
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Jeffrey4l | let us end the meeting now. | 16:27 |
Jeffrey4l | thanks guys for coming. | 16:28 |
Jeffrey4l | have a good day :D | 16:28 |
Jeffrey4l | #endmeeting | 16:28 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:28 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 11 16:28:09 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:28 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-04-11-16.00.html | 16:28 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-04-11-16.00.txt | 16:28 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-04-11-16.00.log.html | 16:28 |
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