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rosmaita | #startmeeting glance | 14:01 |
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openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 16 14:01:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:01 |
rosmaita | #topic roll call | 14:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
jokke_ | o/ | 14:01 |
abhishekk | o/ | 14:01 |
bhagyashris | o/ | 14:02 |
rosmaita | hello folks | 14:03 |
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abhishekk | rosmaita: hi | 14:03 |
rosmaita | i see that pranali has something on the agenda, let's wait a minute | 14:03 |
rosmaita | abhishekk: welcome back, hope you had a good vacation | 14:04 |
abhishekk | rosmaita: :D, yes, has taken some rest | 14:04 |
rosmaita | great, you are well-rested and ready to do much work on glance! | 14:05 |
rosmaita | :) | 14:05 |
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abhishekk | rosmaita: exactly :D | 14:05 |
rosmaita | #topic updates | 14:06 |
*** openstack changes topic to "updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:06 | |
rosmaita | not much to report | 14:06 |
rosmaita | erno and i did 5 sessions at the summit/forum last week | 14:06 |
rosmaita | the last 2, "project update" and "image import" had good attendance | 14:06 |
abhishekk | rosmaita: great | 14:06 |
rosmaita | the "zen of glance" was sparsely attended, but one person was really excited about it and gave us good feedback | 14:07 |
rosmaita | in my spare time, i will integrate some of the info we presented into our docs | 14:07 |
abhishekk | that would be really helpful for us | 14:08 |
abhishekk | (for those who not attended summit) | 14:08 |
rosmaita | i guess that's it | 14:08 |
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jokke_ | obviously the 3 talks were also recorded if anyone is interested to spend the time and watch | 14:09 |
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jokke_ | I have not watched any of them so I do not know how horribly we performed :D | 14:09 |
abhishekk | jokke_: sure will do | 14:09 |
rosmaita | i'm assuming we were fantastic | 14:09 |
rosmaita | and i dont' want to ruin that assumption by actually watching | 14:10 |
abhishekk | ;) | 14:10 |
rosmaita | i uploaded the slides from the talks, so those are there too | 14:10 |
rosmaita | there was a slot for the "onboarding" slides, so i put a PDF of the etherpad i put together for that | 14:10 |
rosmaita | not sure where that will show up on the openstack website, though | 14:11 |
rosmaita | that's all from me about the summit | 14:12 |
bhagyashris | that was good talk | 14:12 |
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rosmaita | i'm still working on the un-uwsgification of glance in devstack | 14:12 |
rosmaita | there are some database bugs that the NTT Data team have reported, and some other people have hit | 14:13 |
rosmaita | that reminds me that i never held a virtual session about the EMC db upgrades | 14:13 |
rosmaita | will aim to do that soon | 14:14 |
abhishekk | that would be great | 14:14 |
rosmaita | not sure i can do it before thanksgiving holiday in USA, which i think is next thursday and friday | 14:15 |
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rosmaita | which reminds me, i probably will not be available for glance meeting next week | 14:15 |
rosmaita | (just confirmed that thanksgiving holiday is next week) | 14:16 |
rosmaita | but i think most of our contributors at this point are non-USA | 14:16 |
rosmaita | should we cancel meeting? or maybe erno and/or abhishekk could chair it | 14:17 |
abhishekk | should we take vote for this? | 14:17 |
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rosmaita | sure! | 14:17 |
jokke_ | We can see if there's anything in agenda and I can chair it ... you could send tentative meeting cancel e-mail and leave the every week stuff out of it | 14:17 |
abhishekk | agree with jokke_ | 14:17 |
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jokke_ | so if there is some actual topics that needs discussion next week, we'll take it on, othewise it's cancelled | 14:18 |
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rosmaita | ok, sounds good ... let's pick a time to decide yes/no on the meeting | 14:18 |
rosmaita | like 14:00 UTC wednesday? | 14:18 |
jokke_ | what was our topic proposal deadline? | 14:19 |
jokke_ | was it COB on Wed or 24hrs before the meeting? | 14:19 |
rosmaita | 24 hours before meeting | 14:19 |
rosmaita | line 30 on meeting etherpad | 14:19 |
rosmaita | which i forgot to provide a link to | 14:19 |
rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:20 |
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jokke_ | ok, in that case yeah, 1400 wed is good time to make the call if meeting at Thu or not | 14:20 |
rosmaita | (supposed to do that at the beginning of each meeting) | 14:20 |
rosmaita | ok, jokke_ can you check the agenda around that time and send out a message if there will be a meeting? | 14:20 |
rosmaita | i'll say in the weekly email that the meeting is cancelled unless something comes up, and people should watch for an email from jokke_ if a meeting will be held | 14:21 |
abhishekk | sounds good | 14:21 |
rosmaita | cool | 14:21 |
rosmaita | ok, next item | 14:21 |
rosmaita | #topic Can we add computation of virtual_size of image in glanceclient along with size calculation? | 14:22 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Can we add computation of virtual_size of image in glanceclient along with size calculation? (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:22 | |
abhishekk | I guess pranali is not around, | 14:22 |
rosmaita | i don't think pranali snuck in while we were talking? | 14:22 |
abhishekk | what she is saying is can we calculate virtual size at client side itself | 14:22 |
rosmaita | hmmm | 14:23 |
jokke_ | and I already once told her not, I think | 14:23 |
rosmaita | i was kind of liking doing it at the api level ... but i don't think qemu-img supports all the formats that we do | 14:23 |
jokke_ | as that would need the client depending (and running) qemu-image etc. which is never good idea | 14:23 |
rosmaita | jokke_ ++ | 14:23 |
abhishekk | rosmaita, yes | 14:23 |
abhishekk | jokke_ ++ | 14:24 |
rosmaita | also, there's a security problem, i put a note on her patch | 14:24 |
jokke_ | and we don't want to do it in API nodes either (for the same reason of running qemu-image there) and last thing I want is this being yet another behavioural difference that is configurable ;) | 14:24 |
abhishekk | does that mean virtual_size will always be empty? | 14:25 |
rosmaita | can end-users set that? | 14:25 |
jokke_ | no ... user can always set the virtual size ... the actual size they can't | 14:25 |
abhishekk | jokke_, ok | 14:26 |
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rosmaita | well, i think if we put the processing limit on qemu-img and also specifically state the image format, running qemu-img on the nodes is not too bad | 14:26 |
rosmaita | but we'll be in the position where some images will have null virtual_size anyway | 14:26 |
jokke_ | rosmaita: yeah, we should then find a way to do it on all supported formats | 14:27 |
rosmaita | not sure it makes sense for all formats | 14:27 |
rosmaita | like maybe docker? | 14:27 |
* rosmaita doesn't know a lot about docker images | 14:27 | |
* jokke_ neither | 14:27 | |
abhishekk | me too | 14:27 |
rosmaita | ok, well, i think that jokke_ is correct in marking the bug invalid | 14:28 |
jokke_ | does docker images have virtual size (as in is it fully dependant on the container or does the image specify the storage size)? | 14:28 |
rosmaita | i also agree that it is *not* a good idea to put this in the client | 14:28 |
abhishekk | i will convey this to pranali | 14:29 |
rosmaita | i think the thing to do here is ask for at least a spec-lite to explain how to handle all the formats that glance supports | 14:29 |
rosmaita | i'm not opposed in principle, i think it would be useful for glance to supply the virtual size if it can safely figure it out | 14:29 |
rosmaita | jokke_ i don't know the answer to your question (i can speculate, but that's not too useful) | 14:31 |
jokke_ | do we offically support other than Linux as host OS (like OSX or Windows)? depending on qemu-image could potentially break those if we do (I have no idea for either case) | 14:31 |
rosmaita | ok, abhishekk you can point pranali to the meeting log | 14:32 |
abhishekk | rosmaita: sure | 14:32 |
jokke_ | rosmaita: same here ... if docker images doesn't have that kind of limiting factor I'm ok that being the special case | 14:32 |
rosmaita | jokke_ i think qemu-img doesn't care what OS is on the image (but i may be misunderstanding your point) | 14:32 |
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rosmaita | i took a quick look at the qemu-img docs, they mentioned like 4 or 5 formats they support | 14:33 |
jokke_ | rosmaita: I mean do we break that odd 1 deployment running glance on windows or OSX if we depend on qemu-image and if so do we need to care? | 14:33 |
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rosmaita | jokke_ gotcha | 14:33 |
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rosmaita | that would be a good question for the spec-lite, whether qemu-img is supported on all platforms that glance is supporte don | 14:34 |
jokke_ | just as it's non-python binary dependency it might be something we need to be careful about | 14:34 |
abhishekk | jokke_ ++ | 14:34 |
rosmaita | it's c code, so i guess it can be compiled anywhere :) | 14:34 |
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rosmaita | ok, if pranali wants to pursue this, that's another question for her to look into ^^ | 14:35 |
rosmaita | ok, anything else on this topic? | 14:35 |
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abhishekk | rosmaita: nothing for now | 14:35 |
rosmaita | ok, great | 14:36 |
jokke_ | nothin from me | 14:36 |
rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:36 |
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abhishekk | I am working on test coverage for IIR with Geetika and Archit, soon we will have a patch for the same (may be by next weekend) | 14:36 |
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rosmaita | abhishekk that's excellent news | 14:36 |
nikhil | ./ | 14:36 |
rosmaita | i was afraid to ask about that | 14:36 |
rosmaita | hello nikhil ! | 14:36 |
nikhil | hey hey | 14:36 |
rosmaita | nikhil: it's open discussion time | 14:37 |
rosmaita | nikhil: i think you said last week or maybe the week before that you have some time these days to dedicate to glance reviews? | 14:37 |
abhishekk | rosmaita, jokke_: look at this patch when you get time, https://review.openstack.org/519544 | 14:38 |
nikhil | rosmaita: yes I do have some time | 14:38 |
rosmaita | abhishekk i thought i left a comment on that, but apparently not | 14:39 |
nikhil | last few days, I've been packing for some long continuous travel ahead | 14:39 |
abhishekk | I am glad to say I have started to work for redhat from this week | 14:39 |
rosmaita | abhishekk: congratulations on your new position! | 14:40 |
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nikhil | now that you do remind me (thank you), I will do some reviews ;) | 14:40 |
abhishekk | thank you :D | 14:40 |
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nikhil | abhishekk: wow, great news. congrats! | 14:40 |
abhishekk | good to have your reviews nikhil :D | 14:40 |
rosmaita | jokke_ : on that p[atch, i think removing the restore call is correct, otherwise the image won't accept an import call even though there's data in the stage | 14:40 |
abhishekk | thank you :D | 14:40 |
nikhil | ;) | 14:40 |
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rosmaita | but it's a weird race condition that would hit that exception anyway, i think | 14:41 |
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* smcginnis takes a look around | 14:41 | |
rosmaita | hi sean | 14:41 |
jokke_ | rosmaita: abhishekk ref that patch, I do agree ... something I clearly did not clean up when doing copy-pasting and modification for that function ;) | 14:42 |
rosmaita | so while abhishekk and jokke_ are here, i want to float an idea | 14:42 |
rosmaita | jokke_ cool | 14:42 |
smcginnis | rosmaita: o/ | 14:42 |
rosmaita | hi sean | 14:42 |
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rosmaita | so the idea i want to float is reinstating nikhil as glance core ... i am having some health issues (not me personally, some family members) and i may have to do a bit of travelling and not have as much time for reviewing stuff over the next 6 weeks or so | 14:43 |
rosmaita | i don't want that to be a roadblock to getting stuff merged in a timely fashion | 14:43 |
smcginnis | rosmaita: Sorry to hear that. :[ | 14:43 |
rosmaita | we don't have to decide right this minute, but i'll probably propose that to the ML soon | 14:44 |
nikhil | rosmaita: sorry to hear.. | 14:44 |
rosmaita | so think about it | 14:44 |
abhishekk | rosmaita: sorry to hear that | 14:44 |
rosmaita | yeah, aging parents and a disabled sibling ... all having problems concurrently | 14:44 |
rosmaita | talk about bad race conditions | 14:44 |
jokke_ | rosmaita: my stand on that is the same as we discussed in the summit ;) | 14:44 |
abhishekk | nikhil will always be good addition | 14:45 |
jokke_ | rosmaita: and I do wish all the best for the family | 14:45 |
nikhil | thank you abhishekk :) | 14:45 |
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rosmaita | thanks for the good wishes everyone | 14:45 |
nikhil | (for kind words) | 14:45 |
nikhil | rosmaita: yes, get well soon to your family! | 14:46 |
jokke_ | nikhil: abhishekk for the record, when we discussed about nikhil's homecoming to Glance in Syd, I was all up for it as long as rosmaita clears it with nikhil first ;) | 14:47 |
abhishekk | :D | 14:47 |
rosmaita | i guess i didn't actually clear it with nikhil | 14:48 |
abhishekk | sounds like marvel movie ;) | 14:48 |
jokke_ | nikhil: in other words didn't want to dump you on the hot seat if you don't have interest or time for it :D | 14:48 |
nikhil | jokke_: thank you for thinking good of me :) | 14:48 |
rosmaita | yes, for the record, jokke_ specifically mentioned that nikhil was an awesome reviewer | 14:49 |
rosmaita | nikhil : are you willing? | 14:49 |
nikhil | jokke_: I'd love to catch up see where things are (havent paid full attn lately) | 14:49 |
jokke_ | nikhil: np, I know you've had your fair share of challenges and did not want to add to them | 14:49 |
nikhil | rosmaita: yes | 14:49 |
rosmaita | excellent! i will send a note to the ML after the meeting | 14:50 |
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abhishekk | great, welcome back :D | 14:50 |
jokke_ | \\o \o/ o// o/7 | 14:50 |
rosmaita | will give people until monday to object ... but since the only people who matter are right here, i don't see any problems | 14:50 |
jokke_ | ;) | 14:50 |
nikhil | thanks | 14:51 |
nikhil | i'd love to catch up individually too | 14:52 |
jokke_ | nikhil: sure, lets make time for that | 14:52 |
rosmaita | ok, that's a load off my mind ... anything else for open discussion? | 14:52 |
jokke_ | yeah, sorry for absence after the summit ... had "a bit" of jetlag and ISP issues ... should be better now | 14:53 |
smcginnis | rosmaita: Sorry if I missed it earlier, but did you say you recorded the onboarding material from the summit? | 14:53 |
smcginnis | jokke_: You're brand new fibre having issues already? :) | 14:54 |
smcginnis | *your | 14:54 |
jokke_ | smcginnis: them feckers barred my account for not paying the bill that has not issued yet .... I had a bit heated discussion with them this morning | 14:54 |
rosmaita | smcginnis i posted a pdf of the etherpad i put together | 14:55 |
nikhil | smcginnis: haha, i doubt theres fibre here | 14:55 |
smcginnis | jokke_: The joys of ISP customer services. ;) | 14:55 |
nikhil | oh, wrong nick picked (thought you linked rosmaita , nvm) | 14:55 |
jokke_ | smcginnis: tell me about it ... not a happy camper | 14:55 |
rosmaita | smcginnis: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SYD-forum-glance-onboarding | 14:56 |
rosmaita | (that's the original) | 14:56 |
smcginnis | rosmaita: Cool, thanks! | 14:57 |
rosmaita | np | 14:57 |
rosmaita | ok, i guess we're done here | 14:57 |
jokke_ | ++ | 14:57 |
jokke_ | thanks all | 14:57 |
abhishekk | thank you all | 14:57 |
smcginnis | \o | 14:58 |
rosmaita | ok, thanks everyone! | 14:58 |
rosmaita | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 16 14:58:30 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-11-16-14.01.html | 14:58 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-11-16-14.01.txt | 14:58 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-11-16-14.01.log.html | 14:58 |
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LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:07 |
vks1 | hi all | 17:08 |
LouisF | vks1: hi | 17:08 |
LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:08 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 16 17:08:34 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:08 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:08 |
bcafarel | hello | 17:08 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:08 |
LouisF | hi all | 17:08 |
vks1 | bcafarel: hi | 17:08 |
bcafarel | hey vks1 LouisF | 17:08 |
LouisF | bcafarel: thanks for running meeting | 17:08 |
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bcafarel | LouisF: np, both weeks were quiet | 17:09 |
LouisF | #topic agenda | 17:09 |
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LouisF | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting | 17:09 |
LouisF | presented workshop with John Studarus | 17:11 |
LouisF | https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/19051/service-chaining-virtual-security-functions | 17:11 |
LouisF | 30+ attended | 17:11 |
bcafarel | nice | 17:12 |
LouisF | several labs | 17:12 |
vks1 | nice | 17:12 |
vks1 | LouisF: do we have recording uploaded anywhere ? | 17:12 |
LouisF | https://github.com/OpenStackSanDiego/SecurityServiceChains/blob/master/README.md | 17:13 |
LouisF | no recording but I think John has left the labs available | 17:13 |
LouisF | there give a good introduction | 17:14 |
LouisF | they | 17:14 |
LouisF | #topic Zuul | 17:15 |
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LouisF | bcafarel: what is status? | 17:15 |
bcafarel | the stable branch patches are waiting for someone with +2 power on stable branches to merge them (not urgent) | 17:16 |
bcafarel | in master we are all good :) jobs definitions are in-repo now, and grafana.openstack.org points to the new jobs now | 17:16 |
bcafarel | we can do some enhancements later on, but at least on the migration front, we can mark this as done | 17:16 |
LouisF | bc great thanks | 17:17 |
LouisF | #topic tempest split | 17:17 |
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bcafarel | no news here, I'll bring it to the next neutron meeting on Tuesday (the previous ones were cancelled with the summit) | 17:18 |
LouisF | bcafarel: thanks | 17:18 |
LouisF | #topic sfc graphs/nsh dataplane | 17:18 |
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LouisF | I think we about done with this | 17:18 |
bcafarel | yes, the remaining parts are in the "python-neutronclient updates" section | 17:19 |
vks1 | bcafarel: thanks for updating neutronclient patch | 17:20 |
LouisF | did the branching-point syntax get merged? | 17:20 |
bcafarel | reviews still open: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:sfc_encapsulation | 17:21 |
bcafarel | LouisF: in python-neutronclient? not yet but looking good | 17:21 |
LouisF | bcafarel: yes, thanks | 17:22 |
LouisF | #topic non-transparent SF | 17:23 |
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LouisF | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/481840/ | 17:23 |
LouisF | work to resume | 17:23 |
LouisF | #topic python-neutronclient updates | 17:24 |
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LouisF | work still in progress.. | 17:24 |
bcafarel | it was quiet with most people on the other side of the planet :) | 17:24 |
LouisF | bcafarel: yes | 17:25 |
LouisF | #topic api reference | 17:25 |
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LouisF | i met with Thomas Morin at summit | 17:25 |
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LouisF | he had some items for sfc: classifier in vm, common classifier, source network in classifier | 17:28 |
LouisF | he also asked if can move the meeting to an earlier time slot | 17:28 |
LouisF | i know this would help people in eu and india | 17:29 |
LouisF | suggestions? | 17:29 |
bcafarel | I recognize all 3 topics, we talked about them a bit before :) | 17:30 |
LouisF | vks1: you were looking at sfc metrics? | 17:30 |
bcafarel | as for time slot, moving earlier works for me | 17:31 |
vks1 | moving to earlier slot is also fine for me | 17:31 |
LouisF | how about 1-2 hours earlier? | 17:31 |
vks1 | +1 | 17:31 |
LouisF | maybe on alternate weeks? | 17:32 |
LouisF | we can see what slots are available and pick on | 17:32 |
bcafarel | yes | 17:33 |
vks1 | LouisF: regarding metrics, I am in midst of some changes in my workplace, so didn't investigate on that | 17:33 |
LouisF | vks1: np, we can add that to the list | 17:33 |
bcafarel | LouisF: maybe fill a doodle with possible time slots and send it to mailing list? we can all fill our availabilites in | 17:33 |
LouisF | bcafarel: sounds good | 17:34 |
bcafarel | vks1: don't dare disappear from networking-sfc, or we will start to feel alone around :'( | 17:34 |
vks1 | bcafarel: haha no no ... I won't be disappearing :) | 17:35 |
LouisF | +1 | 17:35 |
LouisF | ok moving on | 17:35 |
LouisF | #topic vm failure detection | 17:35 |
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LouisF | what is status? | 17:36 |
bcafarel | vks1? I'd say probably still at the initial thoughts stage | 17:37 |
vks1 | LouisF: me and bcafarel have discussed briefly, but I haven't progressed much there | 17:38 |
LouisF | +1 | 17:38 |
LouisF | ok | 17:38 |
LouisF | #topic other items | 17:38 |
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LouisF | anything else? | 17:38 |
bcafarel | I have a small patch I have to writ on networking-odl | 17:39 |
bcafarel | now that we accept correlation=nsh, the odl driver should check and require it (as they have always used nsh) and do not allow mpls | 17:39 |
bcafarel | but that's mostly to have correct parameters in our db, nothing major :) | 17:40 |
LouisF | bcafarel: ok thanks | 17:40 |
LouisF | ok, thats all i have | 17:40 |
LouisF | thanks all | 17:41 |
LouisF | bye | 17:41 |
bcafarel | bye! | 17:41 |
vks1 | bye all | 17:41 |
LouisF | #endmeeting | 17:41 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 16 17:41:22 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:41 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-11-16-17.08.html | 17:41 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-11-16-17.08.txt | 17:41 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-11-16-17.08.log.html | 17:41 |
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