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| rosmaita | Courtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, alex_bash | 13:58 |
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| rosmaita | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 1 14:00:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
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| rosmaita | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
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| mfedosin | o/ | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | \o to you both | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | erno said he will be a few minutes late | 14:00 |
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| abhishekk | ok | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | i'll wait another minute for any stragglers | 14:01 |
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| rosmaita | ok, let's get started! | 14:02 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | great, everyone is here! | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | #topic update - congratulate mfedosin for reinstatement as glance core | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "update - congratulate mfedosin for reinstatement as glance core (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:03 | |
| mfedosin | I like the first topic | 14:03 |
| jokke_ | :) | 14:03 |
| jokke_ | Welcome back Mike! | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | as expected, i heard only positive comments, so mike's been added to the glance-core list | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/117785.html | 14:03 |
| mfedosin | thank you folks :) | 14:03 |
| mfedosin | I have an excuse to open a bottle of champagne tonight | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | thank you for stepping up, mike! | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | glad to give you an excuse! | 14:04 |
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| rosmaita | #topic updates - pike priorities | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates - pike priorities (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:04 | |
| abhishekk | mfedosin: cheers :) | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | this has been sitting around: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468035/ | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | could use some quick love so our priorities are posted | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | i was tempted to ninja-approve it, but i would really prefer that it actually be reviewed | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | :) | 14:05 |
| mfedosin | so, the deadline is on 24th of July? | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | yep, that's the feature freeze | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | openstack-wide, not just glance | 14:06 |
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| mfedosin | I had thoughts to implement multi-store support for glance_store... | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | yeah, that may have to wait until Queens | 14:07 |
| mfedosin | but it seems I have to wait until next cycle | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | we really need to get image import done | 14:07 |
| mfedosin | okay, I'll concentrate on review first | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | cool | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | #topic updates - meeting next week? | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates - meeting next week? (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:08 | |
| jokke_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468885/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443636/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443633/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468835/ :P | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | i will be travelling, not sure i will be available for 14:00 utc meeting | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | The first one is gonna hopefully hit the gate now | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | and unblocks the 3rd one :) | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | question is: does someone want to hold it, or should we cancel? | 14:09 |
| jokke_ | I can host it | 14:09 |
| jokke_ | if you're not around | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: some weird stuff happening on the gate, new setuptools broke a bunch of stuff (anything using six) | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | plus ansible missing on a bunch of hosts | 14:09 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: there were at least 2 different things breaking stuff | 14:09 |
| mfedosin | yeah, gates are broken since morning | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | ok, jokke_ has volunteered to host next week's meeting | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | I've been following infra whole day and it looks like it's finally unblocked | 14:10 |
| mfedosin | I'll join | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | #action jokke_ will host 8 june glance meeting | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | so when the gates are moving and the release tooling fixed we probably should try to get that glanceclient out today | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | #topic community goals report | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "community goals report (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:10 | |
| rosmaita | i didn't have time to look carefully at mtreinish 's patches for the wsgi goal | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | i noticed abhishekk left some comments | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | will carry those over for next week's priorities | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | as far as the py35 goal, i put together the etherpad | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | yes | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-pike-python35-goal | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | looks like the remaining work is around https tests | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | but that's all i could find | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | yes IMO thats onlly thing is pending | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | ok, thanks for the confirmation | 14:13 |
| mfedosin | I can take a look at the wsgi patch - I've already implemented one in the project-which-must-not-be-named | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | i haven't looked into how complicated that will be to fix, or whether its dependent on other changes | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | mfedosin: great! that would be helpful | 14:14 |
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| rosmaita | #topic image import update | 14:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "image import update (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:15 | |
| rosmaita | jokke_: gave us a preliminary view with the patches posetd above | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | (i am having internet slowdown) | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | yeah, sorry being bit eager with linking those :P | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | np, anything else you want to say? | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | when we get those in, we have MVP together | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | i am glad you said that! | 14:17 |
| jokke_ | at that point I will rebase my local branches against master to avoid long chains again and start pushing updates to those and work the client side as well | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | good motivation for getting those in | 14:17 |
| jokke_ | unless anyone else wants to take that client side on | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | is the current status waiting for them to merge, or do you still need some reviews? | 14:18 |
| jokke_ | the 3 last ones needs to be reviewed ... (again) they had to be rebased, which did not happen clenly | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | cleanly | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | ok, will include that in the priorities email today | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | anything else? | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | not really ... looking forward to get these in | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | oh the last one on that list of mine | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | it contains the doc text changes requested on the original review we pushed for later | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | so that should be easy to review and is based on master so should merge quickly | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | ok, that's nice | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | question: P-2 milestone is next week ... how destabilizing are these changes? | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | (i am assuming not at all, let's get them in P-2) | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | otherwise, we could cut P-2 now | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | i don't want to holdup theimage import stuff at all | 14:22 |
| jokke_ | I'd prefer to have them in P-2 | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | i agree, anyone else ? | 14:23 |
| abhishekk | +1 | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | ok, let's try to get them into P-2 | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | #topic releases update | 14:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "releases update (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:24 | |
| rosmaita | jokke_: i take it we did not do a new release of glanceclient yet? | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | nope | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467592/ | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | I'd say we ask for it after the meeting if the release tooling is working again | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | could everyone look at that right now? | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | would like to include it unless there's a good reason not to | 14:25 |
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| mfedosin | looks good | 14:26 |
| mfedosin | I'll approve it when gates are fixed | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | excellent! | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | ok, jokke_ let's cut glanceclient after https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467592/ is merged | 14:27 |
| abhishekk | thank you rosmaita and jokke_ for review | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | cool, that's glanceclient | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | as far as glance itself goes | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | hate to nitpick on that change | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | is there a problem? | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | so did not block it as it is, but the empty line really should be there between the class on function declaration | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | wondering why hacking checks did not catch it | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | i am wondering the same thing, i thought i've gotten that error before | 14:30 |
| abhishekk | jokke_: i don't think glance has specific hacking check to find out blank line after class definition | 14:30 |
| abhishekk | does pylint gives that error? | 14:31 |
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| jokke_ | I added the line back there .... I'm fine for you rosmaita to ninja it in | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | looks like online pep8 is ok with no blank line there | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | ok, when it passes gate i will ninja it in with ref to this meeting | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | (and my connection has gotten worse, not sure what's up) | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | ok, so after the above merges, jokke_ do you have time to set up the glance client release today or tomorrow? | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: I put in comment for it as well | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | cool | 14:37 |
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| rosmaita | jokke_: glanceclient release? | 14:40 |
| jokke_ | need to request it after that change merges if we want it in | 14:40 |
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| rosmaita | right, just wanted to confirm that you have time tomorrow to put up the release patch? | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | no, today ;) | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | even better! | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | I'm not gonna request release for Friday ;) | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | ok, it's up to the gates, then | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | so if that change does not merge, then it goes to next Tue | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | how many more hours are in your Thursday? | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | 7 ish | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | sorry 8 ish | 14:42 |
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| jokke_ | if it breaks world I want to know about it tomorrow morning, not Tue morning :P | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | we have bank holiday at Monday | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | #action rosmaita watch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467592/ and notify jokke_ when it merges | 14:43 |
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| rosmaita | ok, osunds good | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | sounds good, even | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | ok, another question for jokke_ | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: if I don't respond to IRC just ping me in Telegram ;) | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | when do you want stuff merged to make the P-2? | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: ok, noted | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | hmm-m when was the deadline again? | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | supposed to be next week | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | (confirming) | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | next week, means Wednesday so we need really the stuff merged at Tue | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | and I'd request the tag tue evening then | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | actually, release page says 8 june window | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | so maybe we could push one more day | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | ? | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | yeah ... lets say Wed 1200 utc | 14:46 |
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| rosmaita | up to you, though | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | ok, i will make that clear in priorities email | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | so the outstanding stuff is: | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | then we have time to fix any issues and get it really tagged at Thu | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | image import (links above) | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | wsgi goal | 14:47 |
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| rosmaita | we haven't really discussed the latter, but i don't think it's destabilizing | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | so i don't see any reason to hold off on it? | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | any other opinions? | 14:48 |
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| jokke_ | even better if it's in | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | ok, sounds good | 14:48 |
| jokke_ | in weird case that someone actually happens to try out our milestones | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | :) | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | you never know! | 14:49 |
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| rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:50 | |
| rosmaita | well, i kind of cheated and pre-loaded the open discussion | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: don't know if you had a chance to look over the comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468179/ ? | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | actually, ignore that | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | we have enough to do ATM | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | i do want to talke about the other item, though | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | nope haven't got on that yet | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | i owed abhishekk some docs about how admin works in glance | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | and this came up on the general ML this week | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | but as i look into it, it is very confusing | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-authN-authZ-model | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | anyway, if naynoe has spare time, feel free to add comments to the above etherpad | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | i'll be working on it intermittently | 14:53 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita: thank you, I will also have a look | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | and by naynoe, i mean 'anyone' | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | :) | 14:54 |
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| rosmaita | that may be my next irc nick | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | ok, anyone else? | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | ahh that one | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | coming up again | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | and I think someone even thought it would be good idea to hardcode it as "admin" lately :P | 14:55 |
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| rosmaita | arrrgh | 14:55 |
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| jokke_ | rosmaita: I promise I get to back to that OSSN proposal | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: after P-2 | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | might take it as night read over the long weekend :P | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | ok, thanks everyone, and one more hearty round of applause for mfedosin | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | thanks all! | 14:58 |
| abhishekk | thank you all | 14:58 |
| mfedosin | I'm glad to be back | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | (can't remember the hand-clap emoticon) | 14:59 |
| mfedosin | thanks all! | 14:59 |
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| rosmaita | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 1 14:59:55 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-06-01-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-06-01-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-06-01-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| rosmaita | how's that for timing! | 15:00 |
| sjmc7 | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 1 15:00:22 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sjmc7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| sjmc7 | very nice | 15:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:00 |
| lei-zh | o/ | 15:01 |
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| sjmc7 | morning | 15:01 |
| TravT | it is morning here | 15:01 |
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| rosmaita | here too but only for 1 more hour | 15:02 |
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| rosmaita | i am under a coffee emergency, ttyl | 15:02 |
| sjmc7 | bye! | 15:02 |
| lei-zh | I'm going to have one more tea | 15:03 |
| sjmc7 | i don’t have anything specific for the agenda again, except milestone 2 is approaching next week | 15:04 |
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| sjmc7 | so we should be moving to bug finding and fixing mode | 15:05 |
| sjmc7 | lei-zh: i promise i will look at the WSGI patch today, apologies for not doign so earlier | 15:05 |
| sjmc7 | oh, TravT - one for you maybe. the UI branch is failing NPM tests (gate-searchlight-ui-nodejs4-npm-run-test) | 15:07 |
| lei-zh | sjmc7: I planed to test some patches today in devstack, but the setuptools new release breaks the whole world : ( | 15:07 |
| TravT | oh, fun | 15:07 |
| sjmc7 | oo, i missed that. that’s always good times | 15:07 |
| sjmc7 | setuptools and pbr are the lynchpins of everything | 15:07 |
| rosmaita | plus there's a problem with ansible missing on a bunch of nodes | 15:07 |
| rosmaita | so 2 bad gate problems simultaneously | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | better now than m-3 | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | TravT: error is http://logs.openstack.org/12/457212/2/check/gate-searchlight-ui-nodejs4-npm-run-test/ccc7de0/console.html.gz#_2017-05-25_10_31_28_703852 | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | it looks like a dependency problem but i don’t understand how npm versioning works in openstack | 15:08 |
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| sjmc7 | there aren’t that many open patches (at least, not current ones). the WSGI one, versioned notifications (to which i need to add a release note) | 15:14 |
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| sjmc7 | i added https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467641/ to the governance repo to indicate where we were with pike goals | 15:17 |
| lei-zh | yeah, I forget to add that, thanks | 15:18 |
| TravT | lei-zh: has there been any more forward work on using the notification forwarding? | 15:19 |
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| lei-zh | TravT: not yet, still blocked by a zaqar bp | 15:20 |
| lei-zh | but I met a zaqar core working on the spec two weeks ago at a bugsmash event, have described our usecase to him | 15:21 |
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| lei-zh | he said it should be finished in pike release, but I'm not sure if it's guaranteed | 15:23 |
| sjmc7 | it’s openstack! :) | 15:24 |
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| lei-zh | there maybe one way to work out a demo by using a zaqar presigned queue | 15:25 |
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| TravT | i don't understand zaqar well enough to know what that means... | 15:28 |
| lei-zh | lol, it means we create a special zaqar queue, and hand a signature to consumers | 15:30 |
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| lei-zh | they will use that signature to get the content of that queue, completely bypassing keystone | 15:30 |
| lei-zh | it just works for demo purpose I think | 15:31 |
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| sjmc7 | ship it! :) | 15:33 |
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| lei-zh | I don't know if there are other directions we can have a look at, doing message queue' job is definitely not searchlight's goal | 15:34 |
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| sjmc7 | right, zaqar would hopefully solve the awkward tenancy | 15:41 |
| sjmc7 | that said, i did once set something up that hooked into oslo messaging and maintained websocket connections by tenant | 15:41 |
| lei-zh | yeah, but it's open source : ) | 15:43 |
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| lei-zh | it seems there are not so many use cases to deliver message from internal openstack service to tenants | 15:45 |
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| sjmc7 | the horizon one was a big one that we’d wanted for a long time | 15:47 |
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| lei-zh | so what about we maintain a web socket connection directly with consumers? | 15:52 |
| sjmc7 | we could do that, but as you say, it’s not really what searchlight set out to do, and it would have to be through the API process which doesn’t directly communicate with listeners | 15:52 |
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| sjmc7 | ok, guess i’ll end it here. let’s try to get these patches merged and a bit of testing to coax out any bugs | 15:55 |
| sjmc7 | thanks all | 15:55 |
| sjmc7 | #endmeeting | 15:55 |
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| LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 1 17:00:52 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
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| LouisF | #topic agenda | 17:01 |
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| vks1 | hi all | 17:01 |
| bcafarel | hello | 17:01 |
| LouisF | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting#Agenda_for_the_Networking-SFC_Meeting_.286.2F1.2F2017.29 | 17:01 |
| LouisF | hi all | 17:01 |
| igordcard | hi all | 17:01 |
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| LouisF | doonhammer: hi | 17:02 |
| pcarver | hi | 17:02 |
| doonhammer | Hi LouisF and all | 17:02 |
| LouisF | #topic CLI in python-neutronclient | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CLI in python-neutronclient (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:03 | |
| LouisF | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409759/ | 17:03 |
| LouisF | Mohan has updated the patch | 17:04 |
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| LouisF | maybe he will join later | 17:04 |
| pcarver | looks like a whole lot of red from Jenkins | 17:04 |
| LouisF | pcarver: yes | 17:04 |
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| LouisF | #topic API reference | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "API reference (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:04 | |
| LouisF | pcarver: how is progress? | 17:05 |
| bcafarel | pcarver: yes, latest setuptools release was broken, it was hell in gates (should be working again now) | 17:05 |
| pcarver | LouisF: I feel like I may be digging a deep hole. I'm spreading stuff throughout constants, exceptions, validators and I'm not sure if I'm making more of a mess than I should. | 17:06 |
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| pcarver | It's all nicely encapsulated in the networking-sfc repo, but moving it to neutron-lib the process of splitting it up is a mess. | 17:07 |
| LouisF | pcarver: how does this compare with bgpvpn? | 17:07 |
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| pcarver | more complicated because of the use of exceptions in the custom validators and the use of exceptions in the validators and SFC specific constants in both validators and exceptions. | 17:07 |
| pcarver | bgpvpn didn't have that | 17:08 |
| pcarver | I think there was one validator in bgpvpn and it was fairly straightforward to generalize it so that it wasn't bgpvpn specific | 17:08 |
| LouisF | does it make sense to leave that in sfc? | 17:08 |
| pcarver | so I added that one validator and then made minor changes to use the general version rather than specific | 17:08 |
| pcarver | Originally I was trying to leave the SFC specific stuff in networking-sfc, but we can't create an import loop. | 17:09 |
| pcarver | It's not reasonable for neutron-lib to import from networking-sfc | 17:09 |
| LouisF | pcarver: right | 17:09 |
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| bcafarel | yes, pretty sure the neutron-lib folks would not agree (with reason) | 17:10 |
| pcarver | so I either need to remove SFC specific stuff from validators and exceptions, or not use them in the API def, or else move them into neutron-lib | 17:10 |
| LouisF | maybe armando and neutron-lib folks can help? | 17:10 |
| pcarver | at this point I've shifted towards moving it all into neutron-lib, but that's where I feel like I'm making a mess | 17:10 |
| pcarver | I'm going to push another broken patch set soon and ask for suggestions on it | 17:11 |
| LouisF | pcarver: ok | 17:11 |
| LouisF | pcarver: thanks | 17:12 |
| pcarver | at the moment I'm trying to decide whether to rename the validators to be sfc specific while moving them into neutron_lib | 17:12 |
| LouisF | can they be used by other components? | 17:13 |
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| pcarver | I need to go through each one. Something like normalize_string may have a standard validator that's close enough, but normalize_l7parameters seems SFC specific | 17:14 |
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| LouisF | pcarver: yes | 17:14 |
| pcarver | normalize_l7parameters uses an SFC constant SUPPORTED_L7_PARAMETERS in the code of the validator | 17:14 |
| LouisF | pcarver: probably should have an sfc specific name | 17:15 |
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| pcarver | I may be able to figure out if I can get the same result using an existing standard validator, but I need to think through the logic of the current code first | 17:15 |
| LouisF | pcarver: ok, thanks | 17:16 |
| pcarver | but normalize_l7parameters also raises an SFC specific exception on error | 17:16 |
| pcarver | so I'm not sure if I can do that with a generic validator | 17:16 |
| pcarver | The bgpvpn API def didn't have validators and exceptions so entangled with the resource attribute map | 17:17 |
| LouisF | i would contact neutron-lib for suggestions | 17:18 |
| LouisF | #topic Pike work | 17:18 |
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| pcarver | will do. I'm going to do a bit more moving code around and then push the patch set | 17:18 |
| LouisF | pcarver: ok | 17:19 |
| LouisF | #topic SFC graph | 17:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "SFC graph (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:19 | |
| LouisF | igordcard: what is status? | 17:19 |
| igordcard | working ferociously on some last fixes for the ovs agent and driver | 17:20 |
| LouisF | igordcard: ok sounds good | 17:21 |
| igordcard | I've already addressed the comments in api/db locally, will submit the 3 together, likely tomorrow | 17:21 |
| LouisF | igordcard: thanks | 17:21 |
| LouisF | #topic Tap SF | 17:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tap SF (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:22 | |
| bcafarel | igordcard: the ovs driver one is good for review too? (current one is still marked WIP) | 17:22 |
| bcafarel | I'll add it to my review list | 17:22 |
| igordcard | bcafarel: no no | 17:22 |
| bcafarel | ok :) | 17:22 |
| LouisF | vks1: what is status? | 17:23 |
| vks1 | there were few review comments which I addressed, need to add few more UTs | 17:23 |
| LouisF | vks1: can you update the spec to describe how the tap works | 17:24 |
| vks1 | yeah I wanted to talk about that | 17:24 |
| LouisF | specifically how the new tables are used | 17:24 |
| LouisF | vks1: go ahead | 17:24 |
| vks1 | should I update the existing spec only ? | 17:25 |
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| vks1 | that's what you also suggested | 17:25 |
| LouisF | vks1: add comments where they help in the code also | 17:25 |
| vks1 | LouisF: yeah I have added few based on the comments I got | 17:26 |
| LouisF | TAP_CLASSIFIER_TABLE and TAP_TUNNEL_OUTPUT_TABLE | 17:26 |
| vks1 | I will again look and add necessary comments | 17:26 |
| LouisF | what flows are added to steer packets to the tap tables | 17:26 |
| LouisF | and the use of REG0 | 17:27 |
| vks1 | sorry is that question or I have to add in spec ? :) | 17:28 |
| LouisF | can you explain briefly now | 17:28 |
| vks1 | REG0 is used to store actual eth_dst | 17:29 |
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| igordcard | hmm I'm also using reg0 in the service graphs | 17:29 |
| igordcard | I can use a different one, no problem | 17:29 |
| LouisF | you mean the eth_dst received from the egress port of the previous SF? | 17:29 |
| vks1 | yes | 17:30 |
| vks1 | igordcard: thanks | 17:30 |
| vks1 | igordcard: if for you there are too many changes lemme know I can change in TAP code | 17:30 |
| vks1 | TAP is using REG0 & REG1 | 17:31 |
| LouisF | need to document this usage in the driver so we avoid conflict | 17:31 |
| igordcard | LouisF: yep | 17:31 |
| vks1 | I will add this | 17:31 |
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| LouisF | vks1: can you add text that covers life of a packet through a SFC with a tap SF | 17:32 |
| LouisF | look at some ovn descriptions which do this | 17:33 |
| LouisF | add that description to the tap spec | 17:33 |
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| vks1 | LouisF: np, OK I will do that. If you can point to any specific doc, it will be grt | 17:34 |
| LouisF | vks1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449754/ | 17:35 |
| LouisF | vks1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442195/ | 17:35 |
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| doonhammer | vks1: If is any help I just posted a Day in the Life of SFC onto ovs-dev | 17:36 |
| LouisF | vks1: add description of the br-int and br-tun tables | 17:36 |
| doonhammer | vks1: feel free to rip and replace | 17:36 |
| LouisF | doonhammer: thanks they have very good descriptions | 17:37 |
| igordcard | doonhammer: will check | 17:37 |
| vks1 | doonhammer: thanks I will look into that | 17:37 |
| doonhammer | comments/suggestions welcome | 17:37 |
| vks1 | LouisF: sure will add | 17:37 |
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| LouisF | vks1: thanks - that will help in reviewing the code | 17:38 |
| LouisF | #topic OVN work | 17:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OVN work (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:38 | |
| LouisF | doonhammer: i will review the day in the life | 17:39 |
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| bcafarel | ^ https://mail.openvswitch.org/pipermail/ovs-dev/2017-May/332948.html for the interested | 17:40 |
| doonhammer | LouisF: Ben is waiting for next patch - Mickeys patch to extend the table is in and I am getting some help from bcafarel: | 17:40 |
| LouisF | https://mail.openvswitch.org/pipermail/ovs-dev/2017-June/333309.html | 17:40 |
| igordcard | LouisF: doonhammer: will try too, I haven't spent any time yet to figure out if there's a potential clash between the graphs and how the ovn support evolves | 17:40 |
| LouisF | doonhammer: making progress | 17:41 |
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| LouisF | doonhammer: thanks | 17:42 |
| doonhammer | lgordcard: If we can think of it in layers sfc is intended to be for simple cases and minimal infrastructure (linear chains) as we add more features we need more infrastructure support and interaction between VNFs and infrastructure - more complex but more power | 17:42 |
| igordcard | doonhammer: yes.. but the setup of graphs at the forwarding layer doesn't require additional interaction (it requires, however, a form of sfc encapsulation) | 17:44 |
| LouisF | #topic other items | 17:44 |
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| LouisF | i have a question about gluon | 17:44 |
| igordcard | doonhammer: for ietf service graphs, I mean | 17:44 |
| LouisF | pcarver: you have been close to this | 17:44 |
| pcarver | LouisF: yes | 17:45 |
| doonhammer | lgordcard: the encapsulation needs to be recognized by vnf or needs a proxy ? | 17:45 |
| LouisF | doonhammer: there may be nsh-aware vnfs and nsh-unaware vnf | 17:46 |
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| doonhammer | LouisF: yup that is my thought | 17:46 |
| LouisF | i expect over time vnfs will evolve to being nsh-ware | 17:46 |
| LouisF | aware | 17:46 |
| LouisF | pcarver: back to gluon - it has the concept of port-binding | 17:47 |
| doonhammer | LouisF: yes my SFC work - allows them to get started without any NSH awareness | 17:47 |
| LouisF | doonhammer: right | 17:47 |
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| doonhammer | LouisF: igordcard: But limited functionality | 17:48 |
| igordcard | doonhammer: yes, but you don't have to configure the SFs, depends on what wants to be achieved or if the SF's policy can change | 17:48 |
| pcarver | LouisF: yes, the original idea of Gluon was that each port would be owned by exactly one SDN controller and that Gluon would look up which one on a port by port basis for any port related API calls | 17:48 |
| LouisF | pcarver: do you see problems with integration of sfc with gluon using port-binding? | 17:48 |
| igordcard | doonhammer: I'll get back to the encapsulation after gluon | 17:49 |
| doonhammer | igordcard: :-) | 17:49 |
| LouisF | sorry to run conversation in parallel | 17:50 |
| pcarver | LouisF: There are two parts to it, one service chaining across multiple SDN controllers, two hierarchical port binding, if a single port really needs multiple SDN controllers to handle it (e.g. vSwitch and ToR manipulation) | 17:50 |
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| pcarver | The Proton piece is really more relevant than the Gluon piece. | 17:51 |
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| LouisF | pcarver: ok the proton part | 17:51 |
| pcarver | Proton is the part of the Gluon project that corresponds approximately to Neutron service plugins | 17:51 |
| LouisF | pcarver: right | 17:51 |
| LouisF | so would it be possible to integrate sfc with the proton plugin? | 17:52 |
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| pcarver | So really it comes down to a question of whether the Proton idea, specifically generating "protons" from YAML descriptions using an automated code generator (called "particle generator" to stick with the meme) is faster and easier than writing Neutron service plugins | 17:52 |
| pcarver | An example SFC API has been written as a YAML file to be used as a "proton", but it looks nothing like the networking-sfc API | 17:53 |
| pcarver | It focusses on different goals really. | 17:53 |
| igordcard | LouisF: pcarver: with 2 neutron deployments I can see that being possible easily... but having the same neutron deployment simultaneously using gluon and non-bypassed neutron seems a bit complicated | 17:53 |
| igordcard | ref from pcarver: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461310/1/gluon/models/ietf-sfc/api.yaml | 17:54 |
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| pcarver | igordcard: Yes, I'm hoping that we will be able to converge the efforts and incorporate much of the Gluon project's ideas into Neutron | 17:54 |
| pcarver | igordcard: yep, that's it | 17:54 |
| LouisF | pcarver: thanks - getting a sense of what the direction is | 17:55 |
| pcarver | but if you look at that YAML file it doesn't look much like networking-sfc's idea of an API | 17:55 |
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| pcarver | and I think networking-sfc's API is probably more comprehensible to an end user (but maybe that's just my perspective) | 17:55 |
| igordcard | looks a bit like a simplified ODL SFC API | 17:56 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: yes | 17:56 |
| pcarver | The Proton YAML is focussed on ensuring that multiple SDN controllers can interoperate, I think | 17:56 |
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| pcarver | It was merged in a hurry in order to enable a demo for the Boston summit, and hasn't been revisisted since | 17:57 |
| LouisF | pcarver: ok thanks | 17:57 |
| LouisF | ok lets revisit the ovn/sf graph discussion in the next meeting | 17:58 |
| LouisF | thanks all | 17:58 |
| LouisF | bye | 17:58 |
| igordcard | thank you | 17:58 |
| igordcard | bye | 17:58 |
| bcafarel | bye | 17:59 |
| davidsha | Hey, sorry to but in, I've put up a rebase of the Flow manager spec and was wondering would people be able to have a look at it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320439/ | 17:59 |
| doonhammer | bye | 17:59 |
| igordcard | davidsha: :) | 17:59 |
| LouisF | davidsha: ok | 17:59 |
| bcafarel | davidsha: it's on my toreview list, hope I find some time soon for it | 17:59 |
| LouisF | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 1 17:59:50 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-06-01-17.00.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-06-01-17.00.txt | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-06-01-17.00.log.html | 17:59 |
| davidsha | Thanks! | 18:00 |
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| bcafarel | just in time to get it in the logs :) | 18:01 |
| davidsha | bcafarel: ;) | 18:02 |
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