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| rosmaita | Courtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, alex_bash | 14:01 |
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| rosmaita | #startmeeting glance | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 25 14:01:27 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | #topic roll call | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
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| abhishekk | o/ | 14:01 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | sorry for the late start, i was catching up on the dev list | 14:02 |
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| rosmaita | ok, guess we have a quorum, here we go ... | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | #topic updates - happy towel day | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates - happy towel day (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:03 | |
| rosmaita | https://lemonly.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Towel-day-Infographic2.jpg | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | might as well have something to be happy about! | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | #topic updates - glance personnel situation | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates - glance personnel situation (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:04 | |
| rosmaita | guess you've seen the ML ... stevelle, dharinic, and hemanthm have all stepped down from glance-core | 14:04 |
| mfedosin | https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f4/99/cf/f499cffdba28e5ae3854a012d8314d4e.jpg | 14:04 |
| jokke_ | yeah :( | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | mfedosin: :) | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | they all leave big holes in the project | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | especially hemanthm , who was coresec and the release CPL for pike | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | right :( | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | and P-2 is coming up in 2 weeks, i believe | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | soon | 14:06 |
| jokke_ | I quess I assume the release liaison role as I've done it before | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: that would be very helpful | 14:07 |
| mfedosin | I've created a topic about my return to core team... | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | mfedosin: i saw, item 6 | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | let's move it up and discuss now | 14:07 |
| mfedosin | we can discuss it now or postpone it to 6 | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | what's your current situation? | 14:07 |
| mfedosin | I'm working on Glare :) | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | that's nice :) | 14:08 |
| mfedosin | and I think will continue for several months | 14:08 |
| mfedosin | but I talked to my manager and he approved my desire to take part in the Glance project. | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | that's good | 14:09 |
| mfedosin | especially because glare and glance have much in common | 14:09 |
| jokke_ | :) | 14:09 |
| mfedosin | I've implemented a lot of tests for glare that can be applied for glance, for example | 14:10 |
| mfedosin | So I can spend some time reviewing the code and writing small patches. | 14:10 |
| mfedosin | so yes, I want to return and help the project | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | more tests would be good | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | as much as I can | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | mfedosin: good to hear that | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | and your help would be appreciated | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | I constantly receive messages in the IRC and by mail with a request to review something. | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | i don't know whether this is an appropriate request, but here goes anyway | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | in glance or related projects | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | can we agree not to discuss anything about glance-glare project integration until the Queens PTG? | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | But unfortunately without the core status my actions are hardly useful. | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | okay :) | 14:12 |
| mfedosin | rosmaita: ^ | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | cool, we just don't need the extra distraction | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | but we definitely need the help | 14:12 |
| mfedosin | as I said - I'll try to do as much as I can | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | my feeling is that you are a high-quality engineer, and you certainly know the glance code base well | 14:13 |
| mfedosin | What do you think? | 14:13 |
| mfedosin | And I know how bad the code is :) | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | not "bad", just "special" | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | :) | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | here's my honest opinion | 14:14 |
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| rosmaita | ordinarily, i'd wait a bit and let you do more reviews, etc. | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | but these are not ordinary times | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | so unless someone here has an objection | 14:15 |
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| rosmaita | i will propose your reinstatement to the ML, and we can see what hte rest of the community thinks | 14:15 |
| mfedosin | should I write an email somewhere? | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | i'll do it | 14:15 |
| mfedosin | ah, okay, thank you! | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | i definitely appreciate you stepping up like this, mike | 14:15 |
| mfedosin | my pleasure | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | and there is a still-open security bug that can use your help :) | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | speaking of which ... the fix for that has become complicated enough that it needs a spec | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | :( | 14:17 |
| mfedosin | you have no idea how many people wrote me about that | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | i will get that posted soon on the bug | 14:17 |
| jokke_ | that's the one we discussed in the summit? | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | (hopefully this afternoon) | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: yes, same one | 14:17 |
| mfedosin | The Bug | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | mfedosin: i believe you are already subscribed to the bug, you will get an email when i update it | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | yes, that one! | 14:17 |
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| rosmaita | i was really hoping hemanthm could review that spec, i will still ask him, don't knwo what his time situation is, though | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | ok, next topic | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | #topic community goals report | 14:18 |
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| rosmaita | i didn't have time to make the python 3.5 etherpad this week | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | but mtreinish has helpfully posted his wsgi goal patches | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | let's make those a priority for review this week | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/glance+branch:master+topic:goal-deploy-api-in-wsgi | 14:19 |
| mtreinish | the glance side is pretty straightforward | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459451/ | 14:20 |
| mtreinish | the devstack is a bit more invovlved because I needed to do things a bit differently to work with chunked transfer encoding | 14:20 |
| mtreinish | but it's still not that bad | 14:20 |
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| rosmaita | mtreinish: yes, in some clouds "several gigabytes" is close to a terabyte | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | so i appreciate your extra work on 459451 | 14:22 |
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| rosmaita | ok, there are already some +2s, so let's make an effort to get matt's stuff reviewed this week | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | #topic image import update | 14:24 |
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| rosmaita | jokke_: anything to report/request? | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | yes | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | quick one ... flavio looked through the taskflow change and approved :) | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | cool | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | obviously something broke but I have high hopes that once https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467145 merges I recheck those | 14:26 |
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| jokke_ | meanwhile I've been looking for next patches to complement the intial including client side | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | and those help text changes etc. | 14:27 |
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| jokke_ | I just try to get the two approved patches landed as my local repo is totally mess atm. and clean base would be super nice ;) | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | also something is horribly broken on that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443636 I haven't figured out yet | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | it passed gate multiple times before but that just might be again some rebasing issues I'm hoping to clarify once the two patches lands | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | ok, thanks ... what do you want me to say in the weekly priorities email? | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | so unblocking 391442 and 443632 are my top priorities above anything else atm. | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | feel free ... if it has some effect, even better ;) | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | well, it's probably only us people here who will read it | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | :( | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | ok, thanks erno | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | i forgot to give myself some actions | 14:33 |
| jokke_ | but that's it from me ... epect me to ping people around to for reviews once the next ones are in the pipeline/unblocked | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | #action rosmaita email nominating mfedosin to glance-core | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | #action rosmaita list mtreinish wsgi patches in priorities email | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | #action rosmaita list erno's 391442 and 443632 in priorities email | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | next topic | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | #topic glance-specs action | 14:35 |
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| rosmaita | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/glance-specs+branch:master | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | there are 2 +2s on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451560/ ... jokke_ can you +A? | 14:36 |
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| rosmaita | it will go into the to-be-created "untargeted" specs directory | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | same with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206120/ | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | (though that only has 1 +2 atm) | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | and same with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448680/ | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | i'd just like to get those available in case someone new shows up and is interested in something to work on | 14:38 |
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| rosmaita | (actually, the first one is close to implemented) | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | and, finally, i put up the pike priorities: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468035/ | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | wil look the later two ... first one +A'd | 14:39 |
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| rosmaita | ty | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | I know it was yours but I assumed we still had the agreement PTL +As specs | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | oh, i forgot about that | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | but happy to do so if we have lifted that at this point | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | yeah, i feel weird about +Aing my own stuff | 14:40 |
| jokke_ | I hear ya | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | one more spec-related item from me | 14:40 |
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| rosmaita | i took the action item last week to investigate a fix for 0075, the ossn blocking people from purging the glance db | 14:41 |
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| rosmaita | i remembered that jay pipes has/had a blog called join-fu about databases | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | so i asked him what he thought | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | his response was that keeping track of the retired image IDs isn't really a database problem per se ... | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | it's just a big problem | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | so my hope that there was some kind of groovy database solution already known was in vain | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | his opinion, which i think is the same as mine and hemanthm's at some point | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | is that we need a policy to restrict image_id specification at image-creation time | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | and let operators decide what to do about it | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | I'm still inclined to block that | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | why? | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | it's optional | 14:44 |
| efried | #link http://www.joinfu.com/ <== that? | 14:44 |
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| rosmaita | efried: yes, looks like "had a blog" is the correct way to describe it! | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | I would never believed to use this, but that will introduce interoperability issue for something that we have discussed can be fixed without | 14:44 |
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| rosmaita | i don't see an interoperability issue at all | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | i mean, it's like property protections | 14:45 |
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| jokke_ | specially after the summit discussion where we had exactly 1 vite for "never use it, don't need" and "absolutely necessary" | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | in some clouds, you can't create particular metadata | 14:45 |
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| rosmaita | i know, so "never use it" can protect with policy | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | "absolutely need it" can leave it available | 14:46 |
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| rosmaita | i know that rackspace ran into performance issues with too much soft-deleted stuff in the images table | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | they haven't exposed the ability to end users, so they were able to purge | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | that still introduces yet another place where those two coulds would behave differently on their public APIs | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | not really | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | you can just assume "can't do it" for all clouds | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | and if you can, it's a nice surprise | 14:48 |
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| jokke_ | well that's the problem ... as since the beginning of the time you have been able to assume can do | 14:48 |
| jokke_ | on all clouds | 14:48 |
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| rosmaita | yeah, but this is a security problem | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | well, we can fight this out on the spec | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | anyway, i was going to do a spec-lite | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | yup ;) | 14:49 |
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| rosmaita | but i will do a short full-spec so we can list the alternatives | 14:49 |
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| rosmaita | and then send out a message to operators for review | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | ok, thanks for the quick discussion | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | #topic python-glanceclient | 14:50 |
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| rosmaita | the word on the street is that someone has been asking for a release of glanceclient in #openstack-glance ? | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | anyone present? | 14:51 |
| efried | o/ | 14:51 |
| efried | My interest in a new glanceclient release is to unblock https://review.openstack.org/#/c/412634/ (related to the service-tokens blueprint). | 14:51 |
| efried | The fixes, which recently merged, are https://review.openstack.org/466385 and https://review.openstack.org/396816 | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | I was gonna ask that after those couple of fixes that was landed to unbreak the gate | 14:51 |
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| efried | Yuh, ^^ | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-glanceclient+branch:master | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | those are the open patches | 14:52 |
| abhishekk | If possible can some one review my small patches so that they can be part of release? | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: i looked at yours this morning, did you figure out the weird https cert breakage? | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | same test failing in py27 and py35 | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | (at least as of an hour ago) | 14:53 |
| abhishekk | Patch is submitted for that which has merged today only | 14:53 |
| abhishekk | I have added recheck for the same | 14:53 |
| abhishekk | I guess yessterday nikhil has apprived that patch | 14:53 |
| abhishekk | s/approvex | 14:54 |
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| rosmaita | ok, it would be helpful if we make a list now of the patches that need to get into a release | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | would next wed be good to do a release? | 14:54 |
| * efried consults pike release schedule... | 14:55 | |
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| jokke_ | I don't think we're release ready today, def not want to release on Fri with skeleton crew | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | agreed | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | that's why i'm thinking day before next glance meeting | 14:55 |
| abhishekk | Agree | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | so early next week is fine by me if we're ready by that | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | efried: https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 14:56 |
| efried | Sounds good to me. | 14:56 |
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| efried | That should leave enough time to resurrect the service token stuff in nova | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: can you hit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457974/ real quick? docs patch | 14:56 |
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| rosmaita | efried: what are the patches you need in? | 14:57 |
| efried | https://review.openstack.org/466385 and https://review.openstack.org/396816 (both already merged) | 14:57 |
| efried | They unblock the gate, too. | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | which is a nice bonus! | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | ok, cool | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: which are the patches you want in? | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | and is there anything else necessary? | 14:58 |
| abhishekk | Just a min | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | efried: sorry, i didn't realize your patches had already merged | 14:58 |
| abhishekk | https://review.openstack.org/444104 | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | time check | 14:59 |
| abhishekk | And Downloading image with --progress fails | 14:59 |
| abhishekk | https://review.openstack.org/445318 | 14:59 |
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| rosmaita | ok, i will put those in priority list, we will try to get merged over next few days | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | and aim for release on wed may 31 | 14:59 |
| abhishekk | Thank you rosmaita | 15:00 |
| rosmaita | np | 15:00 |
| rosmaita | ok, thanks everyone! | 15:00 |
| abhishekk | Thanks to all | 15:00 |
| rosmaita | happy towel day | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | Thanks all | 15:00 |
| rosmaita | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 25 15:00:21 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-05-25-14.01.html | 15:00 |
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| sjmc7_ | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 25 15:00:43 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sjmc7_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
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| sjmc7_ | morning all, and apparently happy towel day | 15:00 |
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| lei-zh | o/ | 15:01 |
| Kevin_Zheng | o/ | 15:01 |
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| lei-zh | what does happy towel day mean | 15:01 |
| sjmc7_ | no idea. rosmaita ? | 15:01 |
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| sjmc7_ | it’s from hitchhikers’ guide to the galaxy | 15:03 |
| TravT | o/ | 15:03 |
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| sjmc7_ | brian apparently has a very british sense of humor | 15:04 |
| lei-zh | oh I see | 15:04 |
| lei-zh | Towel Day is celebrated every year on 25 May as a tribute to the author Douglas Adams by his fans | 15:04 |
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| sjmc7_ | you learn something every day | 15:04 |
| sjmc7_ | i didn’t have much specifically on the agenda today, but the m2 milestone is in 2 weeks | 15:05 |
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| sjmc7_ | so if there are any patches that need discussion now would be a good time, and i will go on a reviewing frenzy today | 15:06 |
| sjmc7_ | li has been finding and fixing bugs which is great | 15:06 |
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| lei-zh | I've updated uwsgi patch, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456627/ | 15:07 |
| lei-zh | any comment is welcome | 15:08 |
| sjmc7_ | yeah, i saw you’d pushed a new version but didn’t get a chance to test yet. it’s ready to go now? | 15:08 |
| rosmaita | sjmc7_: https://lemonly.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Towel-day-Infographic2.jpg | 15:08 |
| sjmc7_ | if it were hotter i would in fact be wearing a towel | 15:08 |
| sjmc7_ | sadly it’s about 40 degrees (F) outside | 15:08 |
| lei-zh | don't panic use a towel : ) | 15:09 |
| lei-zh | yeah, this one is ready | 15:10 |
| sjmc7_ | so lei-zh with this, apache is just proxying requests to uwsgi? | 15:10 |
| lei-zh | yeah, it starts a uwsgi process, and proxy requests from apache to uwsgi | 15:11 |
| sjmc7_ | ok. i was thinking eventually we could remove the built-in server but thinking about it more it’d make debugging much more difficult | 15:11 |
| lei-zh | also I don't set port in devstack | 15:11 |
| sjmc7_ | right, just in uwsgi | 15:12 |
| lei-zh | I think with uwsgi you could restart uwsgi process instead of apache for debugging | 15:12 |
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| sjmc7_ | yeah, but attaching a debugger is harder than running cmd/api.py | 15:13 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | yeah thats true | 15:13 |
| sjmc7_ | i like the comment “uwsgi recommends this to prevent thundering herd on accept.” it sounds like poetry | 15:13 |
| lei-zh | I'm not sure using something like pdb will behave different in uwsgi | 15:13 |
| sjmc7_ | ok, this all looks good. i’ll run a devstack install later | 15:15 |
| sjmc7_ | the nova versioning patch i think should be good to merge; thanks for the comments on it | 15:15 |
| Kevin_Zheng | great | 15:15 |
| lei-zh | I didn't start api process in devstack, but if we agree it's still useful we can keep using it in devstack, by setting wsgi flag false | 15:16 |
| sjmc7_ | lei-zh: no, i think not running it in devstack is correct, it should just run in uwsgi | 15:16 |
| sjmc7_ | so leave it how it is | 15:16 |
| sjmc7_ | unless i misunderstood you | 15:17 |
| sjmc7_ | Kevin_Zheng: do you know whehter nova’s ability to list deleted instances is used often? | 15:17 |
| sjmc7_ | it requires some work on our end and now nova’s not intending to use SL i need to weigh up whether it’s worth it | 15:18 |
| Kevin_Zheng | i think we should have it | 15:18 |
| Kevin_Zheng | I can work on it | 15:19 |
| sjmc7_ | ok. it will be useful for glance’s community images too | 15:19 |
| sjmc7_ | the way i saw it was to have something like the _rbac_filters function that returns some default filters (like [term: {deleted: false}]) | 15:19 |
| Kevin_Zheng | They are just testing the other way, might not working well as they thought | 15:20 |
| sjmc7_ | yeah, but it’s too late for this cycle to change their mind probably | 15:20 |
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| sjmc7_ | to disable the default, originally i thought we could scan through the user query and look for whether there was a ‘deleted’ term clause | 15:21 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Yeah, but we can try again in next cycle :) | 15:21 |
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| sjmc7_ | but that probably won’t work as expected because it’d disable it for all resource types, so perhaps a separate top levle input field is better - {“query”: …., “disable_default_filters”: {“os::nova::server”: [“deleted”]}} | 15:22 |
| sjmc7_ | that looks a bit clumsy. so i’m not sure what’s best | 15:23 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Hmm, yeah direct API call could be hard | 15:24 |
| sjmc7_ | looking through the other outstanding reviews there’s not much big stuff. i’ll rebease the ipv6 review | 15:29 |
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| sjmc7_ | it looks like searchlight-ui is failing the NPM tests again so i’ll try to unclog that if i can | 15:29 |
| sjmc7_ | well, like i said, i didn’t have anything concerete on the agenda so i guess unless anyone has anything else we’ll leave it here | 15:30 |
| sjmc7_ | thanks all, have a good weekend | 15:30 |
| lei-zh | thanks, bye | 15:30 |
| sjmc7_ | #endmeeting | 15:37 |
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| spotz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 16:03 |
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| spotz | I'm all alone in meeting room 4!!!! | 16:03 |
| andymccr | o/ | 16:04 |
| odyssey4me | o/ | 16:04 |
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| asettle | o/ | 16:04 |
| spotz | wrong channel but I got people:) | 16:04 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 16:04 |
| spotz | #topic Roll Call | 16:04 |
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| logan- | o/ | 16:05 |
| spotz | #topic Review action items from last week | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review action items from last week (Meeting topic: openstack_ansible_meeting)" | 16:05 | |
| spotz | First item is andymccr to revert hyperconverge work | 16:05 |
| andymccr | OK! so i havnt done that - mostly because cloudnull was interested in not doing that straight away and following up with a spec/upgrade path | 16:06 |
| andymccr | cloudnull: you about? | 16:06 |
| spotz | he might be with his dog:( | 16:06 |
| andymccr | yeah :( ok lets re-add an action item | 16:06 |
| mhayden | indeed :/ | 16:06 |
| andymccr | #action cloudnull to fix up upgrades/spec for hyperconverge path | 16:07 |
| spotz | So second action item from last week was everybody to start investigating options for the PTG 11-15 September in Denver | 16:07 |
| andymccr | yeah so - just a reminder :D | 16:08 |
| andymccr | we can leave that out since its a running topic of discussion | 16:08 |
| asettle | Consider me reminded | 16:08 |
| andymccr | and see - its working! | 16:08 |
| asettle | -.- | 16:08 |
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| spotz | heheh, we're gonna be quick at this rate:) | 16:08 |
| spotz | #action everybody to start investigating options for the PTG 11-15 September in Denver | 16:08 |
| spotz | So moving on to Topics for Discussion | 16:09 |
| mhayden | road trip! | 16:09 |
| spotz | #topic Developer mode changes | 16:09 |
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| andymccr | OK! | 16:09 |
| andymccr | yay so i've put together some patches for the developer mode stuff - i'd love feedback logan- jmccrory looking at you: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467604/ | 16:10 |
| andymccr | that is pretty much ready to go, but relies on a change to the individual role repos so we can set the precedence of the pip install: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468028/ for example | 16:10 |
| andymccr | so the second patch for nova doesnt change any functionality to nova (and is failing because of some other race condition im investigating now) | 16:10 |
| andymccr | but it will allow us to set the local pip constraints as having the highest precedence | 16:11 |
| andymccr | and once those merge + similar changes to other role repos, we will be done! | 16:11 |
| odyssey4me | TIL that pip takes the first constraint if there are multiple provided that match the requirement | 16:11 |
| andymccr | yeah :/ wishing it was the last :P | 16:11 |
| logan- | cool will take a look | 16:11 |
| andymccr | sweet :) | 16:11 |
| andymccr | thats all really! | 16:11 |
| spotz | Next up then... | 16:12 |
| spotz | #topic PTG - 11-15 September - Denver, Colorado | 16:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG - 11-15 September - Denver, Colorado (Meeting topic: openstack_ansible_meeting)" | 16:12 | |
| spotz | Hey we're back to road tripping:) | 16:12 |
| andymccr | again - get planning! If you have any plans please start getting specs/etherpads/plans up somewhere that we can discuss | 16:12 |
| andymccr | as we get closer i'll plan a bit more, its still quite a few months away so for now leaving it as is | 16:12 |
| spotz | Another quick topic! | 16:13 |
| andymccr | yeah :) | 16:13 |
| spotz | #topic Release Planning and Decisions | 16:13 |
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| andymccr | releases! | 16:13 |
| asettle | the hound! | 16:14 |
| andymccr | :/ | 16:14 |
| andymccr | haha | 16:14 |
| andymccr | ok so i'll be releasing teh end of this week | 16:14 |
| andymccr | i have a SHA bump i need for nova ocata | 16:14 |
| spotz | They're locked up except for Hippie, don't tell mudpuppy:) | 16:14 |
| andymccr | other than that - as always let me know if there are critical changes you need in the next release | 16:15 |
| andymccr | pike m2 is in like 2 weeks | 16:15 |
| andymccr | that is all :D | 16:15 |
| evrardjp | already? | 16:15 |
| evrardjp | man that flies. | 16:15 |
| spotz | So Blueprint work | 16:15 |
| mhayden | yarly | 16:15 |
| spotz | #topic uWSGI/NGinx | 16:15 |
| andymccr | yaaaas | 16:15 |
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| spotz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458595/ | 16:16 |
| andymccr | im reworking the patch to include all nova services, but i may simplify and use uwsgi only with no nginx. will update the spec and ask for feedback | 16:16 |
| andymccr | that is all!! | 16:16 |
| asettle | \o/ | 16:16 |
| spotz | #topic ELK Blueprint | 16:16 |
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| andymccr | d34dh0r53 asked me to create some repos - so i think he's finished his initial investigation - d34dh0r53 got an update? | 16:17 |
| andymccr | guessing Dave isnt about :) so thats all there is for that one | 16:17 |
| spotz | Ok last but not least... | 16:18 |
| spotz | #topic Open discussion | 16:18 |
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| evrardjp | I have nothing to add that's not in recent merged commits :p | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | I'm busy doing some work with palendae to benchmark down time for minor and major upgrades. | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | We're pushing to get the benchmarks into the gates, just like we have for keystone. | 16:19 |
| palendae | Yep | 16:20 |
| palendae | Currently trying to figure out why the gate output isn't matching what I get when I manually run the role test for glance | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | The plan initially is just to get the tests in, but not make them fail the gate like the keystone one does. | 16:20 |
| palendae | Once I have some of a pattern for glance, shouldn't be hard to get that implemented for everything else | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | Then once a service has proper rolling upgrades implemented in the role test we can flip that switch. | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | But because of this you can expect to see a flurry of patches to implement stages restarts and serialisation of rthe playbooks. | 16:21 |
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| odyssey4me | *staged restarts of services per role | 16:21 |
| odyssey4me | *serialisation of the service install playbooks | 16:21 |
| odyssey4me | the plan is to test the API through the upgrade, and the data plane (for the integrated build) | 16:22 |
| andymccr | that sounds good to me | 16:25 |
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| spotz | sorry vet called. | 16:29 |
| spotz | Anything else? | 16:29 |
| andymccr | all good from my side! | 16:29 |
| palendae | Don't think so | 16:29 |
| spotz | #endmeeting | 16:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:29 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 25 16:29:28 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2017/openstack_ansible_meeting.2017-05-25-16.03.html | 16:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2017/openstack_ansible_meeting.2017-05-25-16.03.txt | 16:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2017/openstack_ansible_meeting.2017-05-25-16.03.log.html | 16:29 |
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| andymccr | thanks spotz ! | 16:31 |
| spotz | NP:) | 16:31 |
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| LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 25 17:00:05 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:00 |
| LouisF | hi all | 17:00 |
| mohankumar | Hi | 17:00 |
| vks1 | hello | 17:00 |
| LouisF | mohankumar: hi | 17:00 |
| LouisF | vks1: hi | 17:00 |
| LouisF | #topic agenda | 17:00 |
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| LouisF | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting#Agenda_for_the_Networking-SFC_Meeting_.285.2F25.2F2017.29 | 17:01 |
| LouisF | #topic CLI in python-neutronclient | 17:01 |
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| LouisF | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409759/ | 17:01 |
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| LouisF | mohankumar: what is current status? | 17:01 |
| mohankumar | LouisF , Sorry for the delay in patch update. Working on UT . Will update soon. | 17:02 |
| LouisF | mohankumar: ok thanks | 17:02 |
| LouisF | #topic API reference | 17:02 |
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| LouisF | pcarver: work in progress? | 17:03 |
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| LouisF | doonhammer: hi | 17:04 |
| doonhammer | Hi LouisF | 17:04 |
| LouisF | #topic Pike work | 17:04 |
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| LouisF | #topic Tap SF | 17:05 |
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| LouisF | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449954/ | 17:05 |
| LouisF | vks1: what is status? | 17:05 |
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| vks1 | LouisF: I think its for review , the nly pending thing from my side is to add couple of UTs in OVS agent side | 17:07 |
| vks1 | need to get reviewed | 17:08 |
| LouisF | vks1: can you explain the ConsecutiveTAPPPGNotSupported? | 17:08 |
| LouisF | why is this a restriction? | 17:08 |
| vks1 | the problem is there is single source and multiple destination | 17:09 |
| vks1 | which has real big problem of classifying traffic | 17:09 |
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| vks1 | think about the case where we have multiple TAP on the same compute as src node and others at different compute. There is problem in classification to send same packet to these many TAPs with same packet attribute | 17:11 |
| LouisF | the current classifier for portchains handles that - why is it different if the PPG has tap enabled? | 17:11 |
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| vks1 | TAP differs from default SF insertion because TAP recieves original pkt against the rewritten dest mac in case of default insertion | 17:12 |
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| vks1 | in default the destination mac always points to destination SF bt that's not the case with TAP , pkt reaching to TAP SF has address of original/intended destination | 17:14 |
| LouisF | vks1: in the normal case the dest mac points to the mac of the SF ingress port - right? | 17:15 |
| vks1 | yeah | 17:16 |
| vks1 | but in TAP case it wn't be | 17:16 |
| vks1 | *won't | 17:16 |
| LouisF | so it should be the same for a tap SF | 17:16 |
| LouisF | why not? | 17:16 |
| vks1 | that's the behavior of TAP , it recieves a copy of pkt coming/going in/out from a port | 17:17 |
| LouisF | right | 17:17 |
| vks1 | if we send the pkt by re-writing dest mac of TAP , then he dest mac related policy won't be enforced | 17:18 |
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| LouisF | the dest mac of a packet must be the mac of the ingress port of the tap SF | 17:18 |
| vks1 | No | 17:19 |
| LouisF | what do you mean by "dest mac related policy"? | 17:19 |
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| vks1 | so TAP are deployed to monitor traffic where certain security policies are defined to analyze / send alarm and many other action | 17:20 |
| vks1 | there are policies which operator say if src ip is 'X' and dest mac is 'Z' , send a trigger | 17:21 |
| vks1 | now if you overwrite the dest MAC these sort of policies can't be enforced | 17:21 |
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| vks1 | In nutshell , TAP devices recieves copy of traffic which are never intended to reach to them | 17:22 |
| LouisF | vks1: ok what are saying is that the dest mac of the packet sent by the source VM must be delivered to the tap SF | 17:22 |
| vks1 | yeah | 17:22 |
| vks1 | exactly | 17:22 |
| LouisF | so that is dest mac matching can work correctly | 17:23 |
| LouisF | is -> its | 17:23 |
| vks1 | how ? source will never send dest_mac == TAP's ingress MAC | 17:24 |
| vks1 | it will be another default mode SF or destination port | 17:24 |
| LouisF | the current implementation of the OVS agent uses the dest mac to steer port chain packets from one SF to the next | 17:25 |
| vks1 | yeah so , I have defined separately for TAP devices | 17:25 |
| LouisF | the original dest mac from the source VM is overwritten at each hop in the port chains | 17:26 |
| vks1 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/465057/6 | 17:26 |
| vks1 | LouisF: please review this. | 17:27 |
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| vks1 | That's a working patch | 17:27 |
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| LouisF | so how does pkt steering from one SF to the next work in yr design? | 17:28 |
| vks1 | there is no change in the way pkts are steered for default SF (tap_enabled=False). They work as it is | 17:29 |
| LouisF | if you have a chain: SF1, SF2, tap SF, ..., how is original dest mac from source VM delivered to tap SF? | 17:30 |
| vks1 | only if operator insert TAP SF anywhere in chain, it recieves all the traffic copied from the source | 17:30 |
| vks1 | in this case the pkt coming out from SF2 will be received by TAP SF without original mac getting re-written in Group table | 17:31 |
| vks1 | while the normal traffic if it is another SF (rewriiting pf dest mac) and if it is normal port will go as it is | 17:32 |
| vks1 | its like you tap the pkts from egress of SF2 before reaching to group table | 17:33 |
| LouisF | vks1: but the packets from SF2 will already have their dest mac overwritten | 17:34 |
| vks1 | you mean to say in OVS or from the SF ?? | 17:35 |
| LouisF | to steer pkts from SF1 egress port to SF2 ingress port the OVS driver will set dest mac of packets to mac of SF2 ingress port | 17:36 |
| pcarver | LouisF: just got back from a meeting, reading IRC scrollback now | 17:36 |
| LouisF | pcarver: welcome | 17:36 |
| vks1 | once operator deploy TAP after SF2 , the intention is to monitor traffic of the segment between Egress port of SF2 and ingress port of next SF/dest port | 17:37 |
| LouisF | vks1: agree | 17:37 |
| vks1 | there cannot be a deployment possible between L3 devices which monitors the entire packet path, atmost it could be of a segment in network | 17:38 |
| LouisF | so you want to deliver the dest mac of the packet from SF2 egress port to the tap SF | 17:38 |
| vks1 | I want whatever coming out from egress port should be delivered as it is to TAP SF | 17:39 |
| LouisF | vks1: ok got it | 17:39 |
| LouisF | so does you design duplicate the packet after the ovs driver receives it from the egress port of SF2? | 17:40 |
| LouisF | and send it to the ingress port of the tap SF? | 17:40 |
| vks1 | yes | 17:41 |
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| LouisF | back to my original question: why can't you have SF1, SF2, tap SF3, tap SF4, SF5, ....? | 17:42 |
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| vks1 | the problem as I mentioned was I did not see a uniform solution to achieve this | 17:44 |
| LouisF | vks1: can you elaborate? | 17:44 |
| vks1 | 'n' TAP SF means 'n' classifications required , in TAP case its only 'src_mac' of egress SF port | 17:46 |
| vks1 | which means we will 1:n mapping between port and TAP SFs | 17:46 |
| vks1 | Also I have kept it open for future work | 17:47 |
| vks1 | Any suggestions are welcome, I will try to implement on that line | 17:47 |
| LouisF | ok, the case of two consecutive tap SFs is not really that useful | 17:48 |
| vks1 | also as I mentioned , because of these limiatations even TAAS doesn't support this | 17:48 |
| LouisF | but this use case should be ok: SF1, tap SF2, SF3, tap SF4, SF5,...... | 17:49 |
| vks1 | yeah this case is perfectly fine and have no issue | 17:49 |
| LouisF | ok, i think that is reasonable | 17:49 |
| LouisF | thanks for providing that use idea of being able to deliver the dest mac from the egress port of a SF to the tap SF | 17:51 |
| LouisF | use -> useful | 17:51 |
| vks1 | please review the patches , I have kept the changes isolated so that it doesn't mix with the default path | 17:51 |
| LouisF | vks1: ok will do | 17:51 |
| LouisF | all please review the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/465057/ | 17:52 |
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| LouisF | ok, any items to discuss before end of meeting? | 17:53 |
| LouisF | #topic other items | 17:54 |
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| LouisF | ok thanks all | 17:55 |
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| pcarver | On the API def it looks like I have to add one for flowclassifier as well | 17:55 |
| pcarver | I had somehow overlooked that | 17:55 |
| LouisF | pcarver: ok thanks | 17:55 |
| pcarver | and I've gone ahead and copied the exceptions into neutron-lib (though not pushed a new patch set yet) | 17:56 |
| LouisF | pcarver: good | 17:56 |
| pcarver | It's still failing tox pretty badly so I've really got to find a large enough block of time between meetings to figure it all out. | 17:57 |
| LouisF | pcarver: thanks for your help | 17:57 |
| vks1 | pcarver: let me know if I can help there | 17:57 |
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| pcarver | vks1: I'll let you know, but mostly the issue is I have trouble getting a big enough contiguous block of time to dig into it before having to switch tasks | 17:58 |
| vks1 | ok | 17:58 |
| LouisF | ok thanks all | 18:00 |
| LouisF | bye | 18:00 |
| LouisF | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 25 18:00:22 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-05-25-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-05-25-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
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