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ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:01 |
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openstack | Meeting started Wed May 24 08:01:37 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:01 |
ifat_afek | Hi :-) | 08:01 |
eyalb | \o/ | 08:01 |
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annarez | Hi :) | 08:03 |
yujunz | hi | 08:03 |
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idan_hefetz | Hi | 08:03 |
dwj | hi | 08:03 |
ifat_afek | Today’s agenda: | 08:04 |
ifat_afek | •Status and Updates | 08:04 |
ifat_afek | •Open Discussion | 08:04 |
ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Status and Updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:04 | |
ifat_afek | I found and fixed a bug in mark-down | 08:04 |
ifat_afek | Apparently there was no test for that… the latest changes in Vitrage-ID broke the mark-down action, and we didn’t noticed. I fixed the problem and added tests. | 08:04 |
ifat_afek | While working on that, idan_hefetz and I realized that the use of IS_REAL_VITRAGE_ID flag is not clear. doffek said he would change it (not sure when, it’s a matter of prioritis) | 08:05 |
ifat_afek | I also started thinking about the integration with Mistral. I’m not sure is what the best way to do it yet. Will update when I have a more clear idea | 08:06 |
ifat_afek | That’s it for me | 08:06 |
yujunz | I understand mistral is a workflow engine. How are vitrage going to use it? | 08:07 |
yujunz | A new action type ? Or something else? | 08:07 |
ifat_afek | That’s one of the questions | 08:07 |
ifat_afek | I was thinking of adding something like: | 08:08 |
ifat_afek | action: external | 08:08 |
ifat_afek | type: mistral | 08:08 |
ifat_afek | parameters: …. dictionary .... | 08:08 |
ifat_afek | But - I’m not sure if I should use the existing mechanism of notifiers for that. Or just call Mistral directly from the action | 08:08 |
ifat_afek | Using the notifiers seems like an abuse. Becuase only the Mistral notifier should care about the Mistral actions | 08:09 |
ifat_afek | And BTW - I want to make it generic, so adding a Congress action later on would be straight forward | 08:09 |
ifat_afek | Another option is that Mistral notifier will receive a notification from Vitrage graph, and decide what to do. This would require a new configuration file for Mistral notifier | 08:10 |
ifat_afek | Or - just pass the notification to Mistral via the message bus. And let Mistral workflow register on the wanted notification | 08:10 |
ifat_afek | These are my initial thoughts… and in any case, the implementation should be quite simple | 08:11 |
yujunz | Got it | 08:11 |
ifat_afek | (since I already managed to execute a Mistral workflow from Vitrage as part of the POC that was presented in Boston) | 08:11 |
ifat_afek | If you have any thoughts or ideas, I’ll be happy to hear them. Now, later, or in the mailing list :-) | 08:12 |
ifat_afek | Who wants to update next? | 08:13 |
yujunz | May I? | 08:14 |
ifat_afek | Sure | 08:14 |
yujunz | Entity equivalence is under review, thanks for all the comments | 08:15 |
yujunz | It is currently a combination of refactoring and new features | 08:15 |
yujunz | If someone wants a separate view of the refactoring, please check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462532/ | 08:16 |
ifat_afek | You sent the abandoned issue | 08:16 |
yujunz | This patch does not include anything of equivalence, just an optimization of scenario repository | 08:16 |
ifat_afek | OK | 08:17 |
yujunz | yes | 08:17 |
yujunz | Because I thought Alexey has finished reviewing | 08:17 |
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yujunz | And he is confused with the two patches, so I combined the two | 08:17 |
yujunz | And abandon one | 08:17 |
ifat_afek | I think it’s a good idea to combine them | 08:17 |
ifat_afek | I hope we’ll manage to finish the review process soon | 08:17 |
yujunz | Thanks. Another thing is about osprofiler | 08:18 |
ifat_afek | I think it’s a great improvement | 08:18 |
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yujunz | I am looking into it for doctor project and it looks also valuable for vitrage | 08:18 |
ifat_afek | Which is MitmStack? something else? I don’t remember… | 08:18 |
yujunz | osprofiler | 08:18 |
yujunz | #link https://docs.openstack.org/developer/osprofiler/index.html | 08:18 |
yujunz | #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57fTdE1hjeo&t=1223s | 08:18 |
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ifat_afek | Right, now I remember that I’ve heard about it | 08:19 |
ifat_afek | Sounds like a good idea to use it in Vitrage | 08:19 |
ifat_afek | So did you start working on that? | 08:19 |
yujunz | I'm working on using it in doctor project. I will consider it for vitrage after OPNFV summit | 08:20 |
ifat_afek | Sounds good | 08:20 |
yujunz | Some other colleague in ZTE is also interested in adding trace point for vitrage for performance evaluation | 08:20 |
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yujunz | I think this is the right tool rather than inventing another wheel | 08:21 |
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ifat_afek | This could definitely help us | 08:21 |
yujunz | Currently, nova, glance, cinder and many openstack services has already integrated it | 08:21 |
alexey_weyl | Hello Streptacocus :) | 08:21 |
ifat_afek | Hi Alexey! | 08:21 |
yujunz | I think it won't be too difficult. That's all | 08:21 |
ifat_afek | yujunz: Thanks | 08:22 |
ifat_afek | alexey_weyl: do you have any updates? ;-) | 08:22 |
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alexey_weyl | Wow, good question, let me see. | 08:23 |
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alexey_weyl | I haven't had too much time to work due to me being sick, but I have started to talk with people about some code refactoring in our constants so we will have a unified names | 08:25 |
ifat_afek | Good idea | 08:26 |
yujunz | Speaking of constant name, we need also think about some property name in template. | 08:27 |
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ifat_afek | Like what? | 08:27 |
yujunz | Maybe a unified namespace `vitrage_` would be good for things like `is_deleted` | 08:27 |
ifat_afek | I think that’s alexey_weyl’s proposal, more or less | 08:27 |
ifat_afek | To add a vitrage_ prefix to all of the Vitrage properties, to avoid confusion | 08:28 |
alexey_weyl | Yujun we all think a like.. | 08:28 |
alexey_weyl | this is a refactoring that I have already strated to make and hopefully it will be done will the end of week.. | 08:29 |
ifat_afek | If you feel good, that is ;-) | 08:29 |
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alexey_weyl | hhhhhhhh, yeah :) | 08:29 |
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ifat_afek | Any other update? alexey_weyl or someone else? | 08:30 |
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ifat_afek | #topic Open Discussion | 08:32 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:32 | |
ifat_afek | We need to decide whether we want to join the PTG in Denver in September. If enough people are interested, I will ask for a room for the design sessions | 08:33 |
ifat_afek | I sent an email to the OpenStack mailing list. Waiting for responses. | 08:33 |
ifat_afek | Any other issue you would like to discuss?\ | 08:33 |
yujunz | Nope | 08:34 |
ifat_afek | So let’s end the meeting | 08:35 |
ifat_afek | Bye :-) | 08:35 |
eyalb | bye | 08:35 |
annarez | bye | 08:35 |
dwj | bye | 08:35 |
ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:35 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:35 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 24 08:35:47 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:35 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-05-24-08.01.html | 08:35 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-05-24-08.01.txt | 08:35 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-05-24-08.01.log.html | 08:35 |
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alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed May 24 13:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:00 |
alex_xu | who is here today? | 13:00 |
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gmann | o/ | 13:00 |
cdent | o/ | 13:00 |
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alex_xu | not sure sdague johnthetubaguy around also | 13:01 |
Kevin_Zheng | o/ | 13:01 |
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alex_xu | #topic priorities | 13:02 |
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alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/policy-docs | 13:02 |
alex_xu | the only one priority item, and looks like we are super close | 13:02 |
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gmann | alex_xu: yea, seems like gate behaved bad, ll recheck on those | 13:03 |
alex_xu | yea, I saw live-migration job always failed | 13:03 |
alex_xu | gmann: thanks for those patches also | 13:03 |
gmann | yea | 13:04 |
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alex_xu | gmann: only have a question for this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461728/, i think we should mark it as deprecated, since the cfg opt "CONF.api.hide_server_address_states" deprecated also | 13:04 |
sdague | o/ | 13:04 |
alex_xu | without that cfg opt, that rule doesn't work also I think | 13:05 |
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gmann | alex_xu: so with cfg deprecation we will show address always? | 13:05 |
alex_xu | gmann: i guess so | 13:06 |
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gmann | alex_xu: but policy may be for separate purpose to hide from few users... but do not know if that make sense or not | 13:06 |
gmann | sdague: johnthetubaguy ^^ what you say? | 13:06 |
alex_xu | yea, i'm not sure why people want to hide the addresses | 13:06 |
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gmann | yea, me too its their server address only | 13:07 |
alex_xu | and that is undiscoverable configuration to the API response? | 13:07 |
sdague | I honestly have no idea, we have the commit where that was added? | 13:07 |
sdague | this is the base commit b3bbd09131e127e7540f4ccdb1376c10bace8b7a | 13:10 |
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sdague | so, the reason for this is that until you are in ACTIVE the addresses could change (late fail that triggers a reschedule, possibility that you get different addresses) | 13:10 |
sfinucan | o/ | 13:10 |
sdague | I think the point of deprecating was that we'd always do the hide until ACTIVE, right? | 13:11 |
gmann | this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18414/ | 13:11 |
sdague | gmann: yeh | 13:11 |
sdague | alex_xu: I agree, that policy point should go away, and that should just be the default | 13:11 |
gmann | sdague: yea before ACTIVE, its not stable | 13:11 |
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alex_xu | sdague: cool | 13:12 |
sdague | gmann: right, but by default, if we have any content in there it's just passed up | 13:12 |
gmann | yea | 13:12 |
alex_xu | but I made a mistake, that cfg isn't deprecated, just the name deprecated... but it is also worth to deprecate that rule? | 13:12 |
sdague | someone should probably write down the desired behavior here, it honestly could be a light weight spec | 13:12 |
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sdague | alex_xu: yeh, I feel like that's one of those extensions that was added when it should have just been sane default behavior | 13:13 |
alex_xu | sdague: got it | 13:14 |
gmann | ok | 13:14 |
* alex_xu write a note, will bring this up when we review the api work items in next release | 13:15 | |
gmann | sdague: you mean to write a spec for cfg and policy deprecation with expected behavior | 13:15 |
sdague | gmann: yeh | 13:15 |
sdague | honestly, it should be really straight forward | 13:15 |
gmann | sdague: ok, ll add one for queue for next release | 13:16 |
sdague | I think we all have it in our head, but it should be written down | 13:16 |
gmann | yea | 13:16 |
sdague | honestly, you could do it this week to clarify, and we could get all the deprecations set now | 13:16 |
gmann | sdague: sure. | 13:16 |
alex_xu | gmann: thanks | 13:17 |
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alex_xu | cdent: anything update for uwsgi? | 13:17 |
cdent | no, at this stage I think the devstack change needs reviews, but that's about it: https://review.openstack.org/457715 | 13:18 |
alex_xu | cdent: ah, thanks | 13:18 |
alex_xu | sdague: anything update from summit, if there is anything really something related nova api? | 13:19 |
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cdent | I want to ask about some of the service catalog stuff | 13:20 |
cdent | there was a thread recently: | 13:20 |
sdague | alex_xu: honestly the only thing I've been working on since was the cross service request ids | 13:20 |
sdague | which is api related | 13:20 |
cdent | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/116574.html | 13:20 |
alex_xu | sdague: got it | 13:20 |
sdague | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/117367.html | 13:20 |
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cdent | in which some people said they'd like to continue to be able to not use the service catalog | 13:21 |
cdent | for inter-service interactions | 13:21 |
cdent | if we agree with that we'll need to make some adjustments to how the resource tracker (and others) call placement | 13:21 |
cdent | to allow endpoint_override | 13:21 |
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sdague | cdent: how I read that issue was different | 13:21 |
sdague | there are a class of data intensive APIs (glance is in that camp) | 13:22 |
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mriedem | this sounds like the spec efried is working on https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/pike/approved/use-service-catalog-for-endpoints.html | 13:22 |
cdent | it's not certain/clear from the second message that data intensity is the only reason. it apears some people just want explicit control | 13:22 |
mriedem | get endpoints in a generic way from the catalog but it allows for a backdoor override | 13:23 |
sdague | direct addressing, and more specifically server lists, allows for flimsy HA and network path optimization | 13:23 |
cdent | but since the thread didn't really resolve I thought I would point out that that was the case | 13:23 |
sdague | the thing that triggered it was getting rid bypassing the service catalog for glance | 13:23 |
gmann | this is to have different endpoints based on different catalog right? like v2 and v2.1 catlog on devstack side | 13:24 |
sdague | up until that point, people mostly didn't care | 13:24 |
sdague | gmann: no, it's the fact that something like glance many folks want to | 13:24 |
sdague | 1) optimize their paths from computes to glance, possibly very much at the rack level | 13:24 |
sdague | 2) turn off https for nova -> glance (but only for that case) which is a 35% performance boost | 13:25 |
alex_xu | wow | 13:25 |
gmann | humm | 13:25 |
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sdague | 3) have some level of HA, which the api_servers list provides, as if we fail an op we pop to the next server and try again | 13:25 |
sdague | which is way less infrastructure than HA proxy, which is a performance bottleneck when you stick that in front of something trying to stream 100GB images | 13:26 |
alex_xu | so it is about different compute node to access different api servers | 13:26 |
sdague | well, specifically the glance ones | 13:26 |
sdague | and it might be the same servers, but a different network path | 13:26 |
cdent | sdague: all that you say is true, but also that thread specifically says "In addition to the Glance to nova-compute use case, the feedback during the LDT session surfaced potential use cases for other services." | 13:27 |
sdague | cdent: sure | 13:27 |
cdent | so at the moment there's some ambiguity that we'll need to resolve | 13:27 |
sdague | right, and that message didn't help clarify | 13:27 |
sdague | it would be good to figure out what "other use cases are" | 13:28 |
sdague | I totally get and understand the glance case | 13:28 |
cdent | sorry, I'm clearly not getting my point across: we, nova, did not respond to that thread, so have left people hanging, we need to fix that. If nobody else wants to I can bump the thread with some additional questions | 13:28 |
sdague | cdent: sure, that sounds reasonable | 13:29 |
cdent | k, will do | 13:29 |
sdague | it did also hit in the middle of summit | 13:29 |
cdent | #action cdent to bump the service catalog philosophy thread | 13:29 |
mriedem | was this mdorman's thread? | 13:29 |
sdague | yes | 13:29 |
mriedem | which was a revival of the old one | 13:29 |
mriedem | ok | 13:29 |
mriedem | i can reply with a simple question, | 13:30 |
mriedem | have you read https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/pike/approved/use-service-catalog-for-endpoints.html and if so, does it suit your needs? | 13:30 |
cdent | goferit | 13:31 |
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alex_xu | cool | 13:32 |
alex_xu | anymore question? | 13:32 |
alex_xu | ok | 13:32 |
alex_xu | #topic open | 13:32 |
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alex_xu | gmann: you are an agenda? | 13:33 |
gmann | yea | 13:33 |
alex_xu | s/are/have/ | 13:33 |
gmann | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1693168 | 13:33 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1693168 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Different APIs 'os-quota-class-sets' Response between v2 and v2.1" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to jichenjc (jichenjc) | 13:33 |
gmann | we have difference bug from v2 to v2.1 for quota class APIs | 13:33 |
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alex_xu | i guess nobody use the quota class API? | 13:34 |
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gmann | that happened due to 'os-server-group-quotas' extensions which i never knew before investigating this bug | 13:34 |
mriedem | no one uses microversions :) | 13:34 |
gmann | heh | 13:34 |
alex_xu | hmmm | 13:34 |
gmann | nobody complained about this yet so do not know how imp quota class API is :) | 13:34 |
alex_xu | mriedem: feedback from summit? still no one use microversion? | 13:35 |
mriedem | alex_xu: clouds are just rolling up to or past mitaka, | 13:35 |
gmann | or noone switched to v2.1 from v2? | 13:35 |
mriedem | no one seems to know how users are using microversions | 13:35 |
mriedem | mordred is just starting to look at microversions | 13:35 |
mriedem | the quota class API is how you get default quota information | 13:35 |
gmann | mriedem: its in base v2.1 | 13:35 |
mriedem | since there is only one quota class, which is 'default' | 13:35 |
alex_xu | ok, so just waiting for a while... | 13:36 |
mriedem | but i think if you also use os-quota-sets for a tenant id, you get default quotas too if there aren't any overrides | 13:36 |
mriedem | for the tenant i mean | 13:36 |
mriedem | so, | 13:36 |
gmann | yea, if not overridden | 13:36 |
mriedem | to break this in v2.1 and then fix it in 2.46 or whatever seems wrong | 13:36 |
mriedem | although anyone past 2.1 using this api would start getting different results | 13:37 |
gmann | we had same case with vif's net-id: break in v2.1 and fixed in i think 2.8 | 13:37 |
mriedem | we dropped the 2.0 code in newton? | 13:38 |
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sdague | so, the bug isn't super clear to me. This is that server_groups isn't in the key list? | 13:38 |
gmann | mriedem: yes | 13:38 |
mriedem | i'm just thinking of a case where the cloud isn't new enough to get this fix, but is new enough that you can't use 2.0 | 13:38 |
mriedem | "if extension 'os-server-group-quotas' was enabled in v2, then 'server_groups' and 'server_group_members' were present in APIs response." | 13:38 |
alex_xu | sdague: yes | 13:39 |
sdague | but we're not including those now | 13:39 |
gmann | sdague: yea, 2.1 never included those | 13:39 |
sdague | and half the world hates server groups? | 13:39 |
mriedem | but NFV loves them | 13:39 |
mriedem | which is 75% of openstack revenue :) | 13:39 |
alex_xu | see the thread about drop retry, there are people use it out side NFV | 13:40 |
mriedem | that's the 25% | 13:40 |
sdague | alex_xu: that's assuming that all afinity is done with server groups | 13:40 |
sdague | you can also do affinity at boot time | 13:40 |
mriedem | affinity with server groups is at boot time | 13:40 |
mriedem | anyway, | 13:41 |
sdague | mriedem: a server group is created if you pass a scheduler hint during boot? | 13:41 |
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mriedem | sdague: i'd have to dig, but it's irrelevant there isn't it | 13:41 |
mriedem | *here | 13:41 |
sdague | yeh, sure | 13:42 |
sdague | just trying to make sure I understand the scope of the problem | 13:42 |
gmann | user can still add/update the server groups quota but APi dpes not showing that back in quota class set APIs | 13:42 |
alex_xu | how much people use quota-class for setting default value? | 13:42 |
gmann | quota set APIs has no issue | 13:42 |
sdague | gmann: right, that feels like a bug fix to go fix and backport | 13:42 |
gmann | sdague: but backport till newton only, we have this since killo | 13:42 |
sdague | and a note in api-ref that some versions had a bug where those keys weren't shown, it was not intentional | 13:42 |
sdague | gmann: right, I get that | 13:43 |
gmann | i see, api-ref clear doc can help | 13:43 |
sdague | yeh, make it as right as we can | 13:43 |
sdague | and explain in docs where we screwed up | 13:43 |
mriedem | hold up, | 13:43 |
mriedem | so we're going to start introducing new keys in the 2.1 response? | 13:43 |
sdague | mriedem: if by new you mean the keys that people already have | 13:44 |
mriedem | already have as of 2.0 | 13:44 |
gmann | it can be interop issue ? few cloud return those keys and few not | 13:44 |
sdague | that we document are there - https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/?expanded=show-a-quota-detail | 13:44 |
mriedem | that link doesn't work | 13:44 |
sdague | https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/?expanded=show-a-quota-detail#show-a-quota | 13:45 |
mriedem | that's a different api | 13:45 |
mriedem | alex_xu: to answer your question, we don't know how uses the quota classes api | 13:45 |
mriedem | we don't know how uses any api, or how much, or in what ways | 13:45 |
mriedem | *who | 13:45 |
alex_xu | yea...i see | 13:46 |
gmann | seems like no api-ref for quota class set | 13:46 |
mriedem | this is definitely a regression for anyone that had code that worked on 2.0 and now uses 2.1 | 13:46 |
sdague | ok, I guess I didn't understand the bug | 13:46 |
mriedem | if they needed those values | 13:46 |
mriedem | yes there is no api-ref for quota classes apparently | 13:46 |
mriedem | os-quota-sets is the tenant/user specific api | 13:46 |
mriedem | quota classes sets the global defaults | 13:47 |
mriedem | which sets a value in the db which overrides the default quotas in config | 13:47 |
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mriedem | the way we check for quota limits is (1) project-specific limits, (2) default quota class in db (3) config | 13:48 |
mriedem | https://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/quotas.html#checking-quota | 13:48 |
mriedem | anyway, | 13:48 |
mriedem | we seem to be inconsistent about saying when something needs a microversion or not | 13:49 |
mriedem | as noted, we regressed the device tags stuff after 2.32 | 13:49 |
mriedem | that was fixed in 2.42 https://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/api_microversion_history.html#maximum-in-ocata | 13:49 |
mriedem | rather than bug fixing it into the regressed microversions | 13:49 |
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mriedem | it makes for terrible ux, yes | 13:50 |
alex_xu | if something break the cirtical feature, then we fix it without microversion | 13:50 |
mriedem | alex_xu: do you have an example of that? | 13:50 |
gmann | so we had similar issue in past with vif net-id we missed to add in v2.1 and fixed in 2.12 #link Ic8b26df8d7e69bd71d23dfbc983fa3449c16fa7d | 13:51 |
gmann | and that was mainly for interop things | 13:51 |
sdague | the fact that it's for this API (which isn't documented) instead of the one I thought it was on the user side means I'm less inclined to backport | 13:52 |
sdague | it's an admin API, the only change is the get | 13:52 |
mriedem | right quota classes is only GET and PUT | 13:52 |
gmann | yea | 13:52 |
sdague | and there is a way to update with the config and set things that way | 13:53 |
sdague | it's annoying that the read path is dumb | 13:53 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/policies/quota_class_sets.py | 13:53 |
sdague | I'd say that any fix should come with API docs | 13:53 |
mriedem | i don't know what 'is_admin:True or quota_class:%(quota_class)s', is | 13:53 |
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mriedem | does that mean, you can GET if you're admin or the quota_class is something you've defined in policy? | 13:53 |
sdague | mriedem: I honestly have no idea, it's policy, it's madness | 13:54 |
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mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/quota_classes.py#L66 | 13:54 |
mriedem | so id there is like 'default' | 13:54 |
mriedem | that's the only quota class we have | 13:54 |
gmann | mriedem: i think so, admin or user defined ids for quota class in policy | 13:54 |
mriedem | there is no user-defined id | 13:54 |
mriedem | btw, there is no way to list quota classes, | 13:55 |
mriedem | there is only 1 | 13:55 |
mriedem | it is the alpha and omega | 13:55 |
mriedem | unless you're rax probably | 13:55 |
* alex_xu can't find that example, as remember there is strict validation for the instance name | 13:55 | |
mriedem | anyway i don't know how that policy works, if it even does anything | 13:55 |
mriedem | so, | 13:55 |
mriedem | i think if you can still get the quota limits for those keys via os-quota-sets, | 13:56 |
alex_xu | 4 mins left | 13:56 |
mriedem | which i think you can, but it would be good to confirm, | 13:56 |
mriedem | then we fix this is in os-quota-class-sets via microversion | 13:56 |
mriedem | and document the workaround | 13:56 |
gmann | mriedem: yea, i confirmed os-quota-set return those | 13:56 |
mriedem | the only difference is os-quota-sets is per-project | 13:57 |
mriedem | but if you're the admin project, then that should be ok | 13:57 |
gmann | #link https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/doc/api_samples/os-quota-sets/quotas-show-defaults-get-resp.json | 13:57 |
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mriedem | ok good | 13:57 |
mriedem | i really need a devstack so i can poke at things like this | 13:57 |
mriedem | nova quota-class-show default | 13:58 |
alex_xu | 2 mins left | 13:58 |
mriedem | is the other thing to test | 13:58 |
mriedem | as non-admin | 13:58 |
gmann | yea, it took me while to confirm all this by taking mitaka branch and enabling that extension in v2 | 13:58 |
mriedem | if someone has a devstack | 13:58 |
alex_xu | so.. what is our decision? | 13:58 |
mriedem | alex_xu: i think we document the workaround and fix os-quota-class-sets in a microversion | 13:58 |
mriedem | sdague: gmann: ^ agreed? | 13:58 |
alex_xu | 50 sec for vote | 13:59 |
sdague | mriedem: yep, works for me | 13:59 |
gmann | yea, ok for microversion | 13:59 |
mriedem | i'll update the bug report | 13:59 |
gmann | mriedem: thanks. | 13:59 |
alex_xu | ok...great | 13:59 |
alex_xu | it is time to close the meeting, thanks all | 14:00 |
alex_xu | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 24 14:00:07 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
gmann | thanks | 14:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-05-24-13.00.html | 14:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-05-24-13.00.txt | 14:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-05-24-13.00.log.html | 14:00 |
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Jeffrey4l | #startmeeting kolla | 16:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed May 24 16:01:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Jeffrey4l. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:01 |
hrw | o/ | 16:01 |
vhosakot | o/ | 16:01 |
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rwellum | o/ | 16:01 |
spsurya_ | woot | 16:01 |
spsurya_ | o/ | 16:01 |
Jeffrey4l | #topic rollcall | 16:01 |
duonghq | o/ | 16:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:01 | |
krtaylor | o/ | 16:01 |
spsurya_ | o/ | 16:02 |
Jeffrey4l | since inc0 is absent today. i will hold today's meeting ;) | 16:02 |
hrw | /°\o/°\o | 16:02 |
Jeffrey4l | #topic announcement | 16:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "announcement (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:02 | |
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Jeffrey4l | any news from community? | 16:02 |
egonzalez | sup o/ | 16:02 |
Jeffrey4l | guess we will have a short meeting today | 16:03 |
Jeffrey4l | only one topic on the meeting wiki page. | 16:03 |
Jeffrey4l | sup egonzalez | 16:03 |
vhosakot | I wil start contributing more again :) sorry was away for a bit :) I still use and love kolla every day :) | 16:03 |
duonghq | vhosakot, glad to hear that | 16:03 |
spsurya_ | Jeffrey4l: yes only one | 16:03 |
Jeffrey4l | vhosakot, cool welcome back | 16:03 |
rwellum | +1 vhosakot | 16:04 |
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duonghq | also, nice to meet you in summit | 16:04 |
spsurya_ | vhosakot: +1 | 16:04 |
duonghq | rwellum, you too | 16:04 |
rwellum | cheers duonghq - same | 16:04 |
vhosakot | however I'll be on PTO tomorrow until June 6th :) so, I'll come back after June 6th. | 16:04 |
Jeffrey4l | #topic bp/ansible-specific-task-become (duonghq) | 16:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to "bp/ansible-specific-task-become (duonghq) (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:04 | |
Jeffrey4l | duonghq, yours | 16:04 |
duonghq | thank Jeffrey4l | 16:05 |
duonghq | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+spec/ansible-specific-task-become | 16:05 |
duonghq | the bp is approved and started for awhile but I haven't pushed it so fast | 16:05 |
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duonghq | currently, I'm finishing the gate logic | 16:05 |
duonghq | hope that you guys can help me finish it. | 16:06 |
duonghq | there are 3 main ps | 16:06 |
duonghq | start with: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398682/10 | 16:06 |
duonghq | I'd like to get suggestion for Ansible logic | 16:06 |
Jeffrey4l | cloud block simplify the number of "become"? http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/playbooks_blocks.html | 16:07 |
duonghq | can anybody give me a hand? | 16:07 |
duonghq | Jeffrey4l, sure, actually, nearly all become in config.yml (s) | 16:08 |
Jeffrey4l | sure. will add this into my review queue | 16:08 |
duonghq | I'll refactor my playbook | 16:08 |
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Jeffrey4l | before that, we have to bump ansible version ;( | 16:08 |
duonghq | thanks for your suggestion | 16:08 |
Jeffrey4l | if we use block. | 16:08 |
duonghq | iirc, we are already on >= 2.0? | 16:08 |
Jeffrey4l | blocks is added since 2.1, iirc | 16:09 |
spsurya_ | duonghq: i will review it again and will see if i can provide some help to you | 16:09 |
duonghq | "In 2.0 we added a block feature to allow for logical grouping of tasks and even in play error handling. " from your linke | 16:09 |
duonghq | spsurya_, thanks | 16:09 |
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Jeffrey4l | aha, sorry. you are right. | 16:09 |
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duonghq | I'll try to finish the bp soon and move quickly to implement project-specific logic for upgrading (as I and egonzalez, inc0 are doing for neutron and keystone) | 16:10 |
duonghq | hope so | 16:10 |
Jeffrey4l | cool. | 16:11 |
Jeffrey4l | please add these patch into your review queue. | 16:11 |
Jeffrey4l | duonghq, anything else? | 16:11 |
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duonghq | for this topic: no | 16:12 |
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Jeffrey4l | ok. any other topic anyone wanna talk? | 16:12 |
egonzalez | yep, i have one | 16:12 |
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Jeffrey4l | please. | 16:12 |
egonzalez | for zero downtime upgrades we need some services to be serialized, in ocata we removed default serial into kolla-ansible and cannot be overriden | 16:13 |
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Jeffrey4l | #topic zero downtime upgrade | 16:13 |
*** openstack changes topic to "zero downtime upgrade (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:13 | |
egonzalez | created a PS to allow per service serial https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460090/ | 16:13 |
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egonzalez | if someone can take a look and provide feedback will be helpful | 16:14 |
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Jeffrey4l | serial will not works as expected. at least for bootstrap stage/container. | 16:14 |
sdake | o/ | 16:14 |
duonghq | hi sdake | 16:15 |
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Jeffrey4l | if you have 3 nodes. and run with serial: 30%, bootstrap container will run 3 times. | 16:15 |
Jeffrey4l | whereas 1 times is expected. | 16:15 |
Jeffrey4l | i think serial is more used for stateless service. | 16:16 |
egonzalez | will recheck that | 16:17 |
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Jeffrey4l | ok. | 16:17 |
egonzalez | thanks Jeffrey4l | 16:17 |
Jeffrey4l | np ;) | 16:18 |
Jeffrey4l | any other topic? | 16:18 |
Jeffrey4l | #topic open discuss | 16:18 |
*** openstack changes topic to "open discuss (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:18 | |
Jeffrey4l | or anything wanna to talk? | 16:18 |
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vhosakot | o/ sdake just told the team I'll be back contributing again when I can. sorry was away for a bit from kolla upstream. I'll be on vacation from tomorrow until June 6th and will come back to contributing after June 6th FIYI. | 16:19 |
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spsurya_ | Jeffrey4l: I wanted to do bug traiging for kolla and kolla-ansible | 16:19 |
vhosakot | planning to help inc0 add more kolla gates may be. | 16:19 |
pbourke | hi, sorry for lateness :) | 16:19 |
spsurya_ | as list is large of bug | 16:19 |
spsurya_ | Jeffrey4l: | 16:19 |
duonghq | vhosakot, are you interested in upgrading gate (gate for upgrade procedure) | 16:20 |
spsurya_ | Jeffrey4l: i will be reporting the same in weekly meeting insome format | 16:20 |
vhosakot | duonghq: well, we already run fare upgrade in gate now, don't we? :) | 16:20 |
vhosakot | fare==fake* | 16:21 |
duonghq | vhosakot, not well yet | 16:21 |
Jeffrey4l | hmm, sorry do not got the point spsurya_ | 16:21 |
vhosakot | is this a real upgrade in gate --> http://logs.openstack.org/60/467360/2/check/gate-kolla-dsvm-deploy-centos-binary-centos-7-nv/e93cc46/console.html#_2017-05-24_14_43_56_099437 | 16:21 |
Jeffrey4l | vhosakot, yes. just test the upgrade task works. | 16:21 |
duonghq | vhosakot, we also need gating for rolling upgrade | 16:21 |
spsurya_ | Jeffrey4l: I will be traiging the bugs open and recently logged bugs | 16:21 |
vhosakot | ah ok | 16:21 |
duonghq | inc0 talked some ideas before | 16:22 |
spsurya_ | Jeffrey4l: so that we can minimize the count | 16:22 |
duonghq | kind of functional gate | 16:22 |
spsurya_ | of open bugs | 16:22 |
vhosakot | yeah inc0 said on-demand flag-based gates for upgrades few times a day. | 16:22 |
hrw | speaking of contributing... | 16:22 |
spsurya_ | Jeffrey4l: any suggestion on that | 16:22 |
Jeffrey4l | spsurya_, roger. thanks. | 16:22 |
spsurya_ | ? | 16:22 |
vhosakot | we don't need to run upgrade for every merge, should we? | 16:22 |
vhosakot | hrw: speak :) | 16:22 |
hrw | I plan to get more time to do reviews on kolla | 16:22 |
duonghq | vhosakot, should experimental gate | 16:22 |
rwellum | hrw: +1 | 16:23 |
duonghq | due to this kind of gate take very long time to be done | 16:23 |
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hrw | and finally start using them not only building | 16:23 |
Jeffrey4l | there is a page will be helpful to traigin bugs. | 16:23 |
vhosakot | duonghq: right, on-demand experimental makes sense... cool | 16:23 |
spsurya_ | Jeffrey4l: yes seen that | 16:23 |
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hrw | the plan is to be able to apply for core dev one day ;D | 16:23 |
vhosakot | hrw: +1 | 16:23 |
spsurya_ | Jeffrey4l: and will follow the same | 16:23 |
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duonghq | vhosakot, are you interested? | 16:23 |
Jeffrey4l | spsurya_, this one http://kolla.betacloud.io/bugs-dashboard.html | 16:24 |
vhosakot | duonghq: in what? | 16:24 |
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duonghq | the upgrading gate | 16:24 |
vhosakot | duonghq: sure, but, as I said, I'm on vacation tomorrow until June 6th, and can start working on after June 6th/7th.. is it fine? | 16:24 |
Jeffrey4l | hrw, cool. | 16:24 |
duonghq | vhosakot, sure, I'll try to finish something first | 16:25 |
vhosakot | duonghq: cool, thanks | 16:25 |
spsurya_ | Jeffrey4l: thanks, didn't seen that before . I was following this https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage | 16:25 |
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Jeffrey4l | spsurya_, this page is useful ;) | 16:26 |
hrw | Jeffrey4l: can you #link it for notes? | 16:27 |
duonghq | ya, bug smashing | 16:27 |
Jeffrey4l | #link http://kolla.betacloud.io/bugs-dashboard.html | 16:27 |
vhosakot | cool link Jeffrey4l, did you create it? | 16:27 |
Jeffrey4l | no. | 16:27 |
duonghq | iirc, it's egonzalez ? | 16:27 |
Jeffrey4l | it is Christian Berendt | 16:27 |
Jeffrey4l | anything else? | 16:28 |
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berendt | Is it still working? Have not checked the last weeks. | 16:29 |
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spsurya_ | Jeffrey4l: sdake duonghq egonzalez pbourke vhosakot and all. I will be relocating the to my place :) in this weekdays/weekend. So I will not be available much in this week. So will be active from next week. | 16:29 |
pbourke | can someone please ack https://review.openstack.org/#/c/463798/ | 16:29 |
duonghq | spsurya_, copied | 16:29 |
egonzalez | spsurya_, cool | 16:29 |
Jeffrey4l | roger. | 16:29 |
berendt | Will read backlog, I am still on the road :-( | 16:29 |
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vhosakot | pbourke: done, after a long break lol ;) | 16:30 |
pbourke | vhosakot: thanks! | 16:30 |
duonghq | berendt, long time no see you :( | 16:30 |
berendt | Busy times :-( | 16:31 |
vhosakot | duonghq: I'll ping for upgrade gates | 16:32 |
duonghq | vhosakot, roger | 16:32 |
Jeffrey4l | ok. seem nothing to talk. | 16:32 |
Jeffrey4l | let's end today's meeting. | 16:33 |
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Jeffrey4l | thanks all for coming ;) | 16:33 |
Jeffrey4l | have a nice day/nice | 16:33 |
Jeffrey4l | night* | 16:33 |
duonghq | ya | 16:33 |
egonzalez | thanks Jeffrey4l | 16:33 |
Jeffrey4l | #endmeeting | 16:33 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:33 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 24 16:33:28 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:33 |
duonghq | thank you gúy | 16:33 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-05-24-16.01.html | 16:33 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-05-24-16.01.txt | 16:33 |
rwellum | Thanks for hosting Jeffrey4l | 16:33 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-05-24-16.01.log.html | 16:33 |
spsurya_ | Jeffrey4l: great to hold the seat | 16:33 |
spsurya_ | +1 | 16:33 |
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hrw | htanks Jeffrey4l | 16:37 |
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