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| danoffek | Hi Guys | 08:00 |
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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 22 08:00:29 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
| danoffek | Hi again | 08:00 |
| ifat_afek | Hi :-) | 08:00 |
| eyalb | \o | 08:00 |
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| elisha_r | hi | 08:01 |
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| usman | hi | 08:02 |
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| ifat_afek | Le’ts start | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | Today’s agenda: | 08:04 |
| alexey_weyl | hello everyone | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | •Status and Updates | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | •Boston Summit | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | •Open Discussion | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:04 | |
| ifat_afek | I didn’t do much this week, was sick part of it. | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | Regarding Doctor: I finished the implementation, but still need to verify the test on an OPNFV pod. | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | On the meeting yesterday, Ryota suggested that we have a dedicated POD for Vitrage tests, or to complete Apex installation until E-release | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | He said that the Apex task is very big and risky. I need to evaluate both options and better understand the requirements. | 08:05 |
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| ifat_afek | That’s it for me | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | Who’s next? | 08:05 |
| danoffek | I can update about the state of Vitrage ID | 08:05 |
| danoffek | No change yet, still fixing tempest tests to support Vitrage ID change | 08:06 |
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| danoffek | I don't think I'll have it ready this week. | 08:06 |
| danoffek | Thanks, Anna, for joining | 08:07 |
| danoffek | In any case, hopefully next week I'll have a better update | 08:07 |
| danoffek | That's it | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | danoffek: Ok, thanks | 08:07 |
| annarez | Hi all | 08:08 |
| yujunz | On my side, not much work done last week due to the OPNFV release milestones | 08:08 |
| annarez | I wrote the blueprint for snmp support in Vitrage | 08:08 |
| danoffek | :) | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | Ok, thanks | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | yujunz: Any other updates? | 08:09 |
| yujunz | Yes | 08:09 |
| yujunz | I will continue on @Weiya's bp about alarm deduction next week | 08:10 |
| ifat_afek | Great, I was going to ask about that | 08:11 |
| yujunz | Hope to deliver the design before MS1 | 08:11 |
| yujunz | I want to ask about the status of alarm aggregation | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | We will also try to check idan_hefetz’s proposal, to see if it matches | 08:11 |
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| ifat_afek | Nothing happened regarding alarm aggregation. AFAIK, nobody is working on that | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | Why? | 08:12 |
| yujunz | Yes, I shall consider weiya, idan_hefretz proposals | 08:12 |
| yujunz | idan_hefetz sorry | 08:12 |
| ifat_afek | And your proposal | 08:12 |
| yujunz | Of course :-) | 08:12 |
| yujunz | Basically we are trying to handle the requirement of Nokia's use case and ZTE's use case and back compatibiity on existing interfaces | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | Right | 08:13 |
| yujunz | That's all | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | Ok, thanks. So we’ll be in touch regarding the design later on | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | Who else wants to update? | 08:14 |
| alexey_weyl | I have an update | 08:14 |
| alexey_weyl | I really but really really want to finish the "not" operator support for the templates and teh evaluator | 08:14 |
| alexey_weyl | That is it for now | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | Thanks :-) | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | Anyone else? | 08:15 |
| dwj | I'll update. I will continue to implement the `resource list` and `resource show` APIs. :) | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | dwj: Great! | 08:16 |
| alexey_weyl | That's cool. But dong, don't forget the those APIs needs to support Multi tenancy as well as --all-tenants | 08:16 |
| dwj | I register a bp and proposed a patch #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447980/ | 08:16 |
| ifat_afek | Cool, we’ll review it | 08:17 |
| dwj | alexey_weyl, ok | 08:17 |
| ifat_afek | Any other updates? | 08:18 |
| dwj | That's all. | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | Moving on | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Boston Summit | 08:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Boston Summit (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:18 | |
| ifat_afek | We were supposed to finish the brainstorming on the Forum session until yesterday… | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | we have one more week to submit the session proposals | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | Please enter the etherpad and write a short description on the topics that interest you, and then we’ll vote (or submit all) | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-Vitrage-brainstorming | 08:19 |
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| ifat_afek | Anything else regarding the Boston Summit? | 08:20 |
| ifat_afek | BTW, it’s not clear that we’ll get the forum sessions that we want. I’m not so sure about the criteria for approving them | 08:21 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Open Discussion | 08:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:22 | |
| ifat_afek | Any other issue you would like to raise? | 08:22 |
| yujunz | About alarm aggregation | 08:22 |
| ifat_afek | Right :-) | 08:23 |
| yujunz | I'm asking about it because it may relate to alarm deduction | 08:23 |
| yujunz | So if somebody is starting to work on it, please add me as reviewer | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | I agree that we need alarm aggregation once we implement the alarm deduction bp | 08:24 |
| ifat_afek | OK to your request, but of course you can become a reviewer even if we don’t add you | 08:24 |
| ifat_afek | A complex bp like that won’t be approved so quickly I guess… | 08:24 |
| yujunz | Yes, I have created a filter in openstack gerrit | 08:25 |
| yujunz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/(project:openstack/vitrage+OR+project:openstack/vitrage-specs+)+AND+status:open | 08:25 |
| yujunz | I suppose this will filter out all the open reviews about vitrage core, right? | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | You can also get notifications for every new change | 08:26 |
| ifat_afek | I think that filter is ok | 08:26 |
| ifat_afek | If you set your settings/watched projects, you will get notifications and won’t need the filter | 08:27 |
| yujunz | Normally, I would ignore email notification since there are too many... | 08:27 |
| ifat_afek | :-) | 08:27 |
| yujunz | So I'm working in PULL mode instead of PUSH | 08:28 |
| yujunz | Another subject we are watching is persistent database, any progress? | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | I think we better start thinking about the alarm aggregation, but AFAIK nobody is doing it at the moment. So maybe we’ll wait for the alarm deduction design | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | Not yet… unfortunately | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | Everyone seems busy in other tasks | 08:29 |
| yujunz | Understandable but the MS1 is quite close. It is April 14, right? | 08:29 |
| ifat_afek | I think so | 08:29 |
| ifat_afek | I agree that we better give it a higher priority | 08:30 |
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| ifat_afek | Any other issue? | 08:30 |
| yujunz | Nope | 08:30 |
| ifat_afek | Ok, goodbye then | 08:31 |
| elisha_r | bye | 08:31 |
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| usman | bye | 08:32 |
| dwj | bye | 08:32 |
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| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 08:32 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 22 08:32:36 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-03-22-08.00.html | 08:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-03-22-08.00.txt | 08:32 |
| yujunz | bye | 08:32 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-03-22-08.00.log.html | 08:32 |
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| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api#startmeeting nova api | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 22 13:00:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
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| mriedem | o/ | 13:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | oops | 13:00 |
| mriedem | undo or endmeeting and restart? | 13:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | ok | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 13:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 22 13:00:56 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api_startmeeting_nova_api/2017/nova_api_startmeeting_nova_api.2017-03-22-13.00.html | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api_startmeeting_nova_api/2017/nova_api_startmeeting_nova_api.2017-03-22-13.00.txt | 13:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api_startmeeting_nova_api/2017/nova_api_startmeeting_nova_api.2017-03-22-13.00.log.html | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 22 13:01:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:01 |
| mriedem | o/ | 13:01 |
| gmann | o/ | 13:01 |
| cdent | mriedem: are you everywhere now because of your working-from-home-ness? | 13:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 13:01 |
| mriedem | cdent: yes | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: you worked at office before, i thought no-one will work at office in the US | 13:02 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: the local ibm people do | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | #topic priorities | 13:02 |
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| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/policy-docs | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | the spec for policy docs merged, and already have a lot of patches ready for review \o/ | 13:02 |
| gmann | want to ask how to show policy for deprecated APIs - #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448267/ | 13:03 |
| gmann | as test line ok? | 13:03 |
| Kevin_Zheng | o/ | 13:03 |
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| gmann | text | 13:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | so deprecated APIs are still APIs | 13:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats different to deprecated policy rules that are about to die | 13:04 |
| gmann | yea | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | yea | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | we only to note deprecated API in the api-ref. | 13:04 |
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| alex_xu | s/only/only need/ | 13:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think we should get the basics in there, and see how we look once thats done | 13:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | its a shame to bloat loads saying that the API is deprecated, if we don't need to. | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | yea | 13:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/sample_policy.html | 13:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | its starting to look much better already ^ | 13:06 |
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| mriedem | yeah it is | 13:06 |
| gmann | yea, so we do show note about deprecated API like volume API in that sample. | 13:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | I thought we said about we probably don't need to mention it | 13:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | we might deprecated a policy rule, but thats different | 13:08 |
| gmann | yea that is separate. | 13:08 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: do we need a space line between the doc and rule? a little hard to figure which one is rule. | 13:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: sure, thats an oslo.policy generator change though | 13:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sneti or aunnam might fancy fixing that up ^ | 13:09 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: ah yes, that true. I thought we can add a '\n', but you are right, that should be done by oslo.policy | 13:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh I quick note on "os_compute_api:os-attach-interfaces:discoverable" and the like | 13:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | I asked them not to document those, because I think we can remove those | 13:10 |
| gmann | +1. | 13:11 |
| alex_xu | yea, hope we can remove those. really needn't waiting for one more release | 13:11 |
| gmann | patrole project want to test discover policy which they should not right? | 13:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | that in the follow up spec, removing those | 13:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | gmann: correct, its not worth it | 13:12 |
| gmann | only thing we did document that those are going to remove and they thought its valid policy | 13:12 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: or just create a separated bp for it, then people can begin to kill those directly? | 13:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | gmann: I still need to work out what that thing does at some point, probably before we approve the next spec | 13:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: can do | 13:12 |
| gmann | +1, ll convey that | 13:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | gmann: I hadn't spotted they still existed till we started this, there are quite a few rules sneti and aunnam have found that actually are unused | 13:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am sure, just like with the config, there is a bunch of stuff that will need tidying up | 13:14 |
| gmann | yea | 13:14 |
| gmann | i feel its good to have patrole gate job on nova side ? | 13:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, not sure there is much else I wanted to discuss on that one (I am keen to talk about the other two specs I guess) | 13:14 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: would OSIC guys want to create a bp for removing discovery entry? | 13:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: its already on their TODO list, I can ask them to create a separate specless BP for that | 13:15 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: thanks | 13:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | gmann: I think we need to work out where it fits, I was really wanting in tree functional tests for the policy stuff | 13:16 |
| alex_xu | thanks OSIC guys, thanks sneti and aunnam | 13:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | +1 great to see us making progress on this stuff | 13:16 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433037/ | 13:17 |
| gmann | johnthetubaguy: yea functional tests always nice. i was thinking we can use patrole effort also for more testing | 13:17 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: ^ you want to talk that more | 13:17 |
| gmann | but not sure if sometime that can delay the changes etc | 13:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | so the spec | 13:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | really I am wondering whats needed to get that approved / agreed | 13:18 |
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| johnthetubaguy | had some great comments from alex_xu sneti and aunnam to clean up the text in there | 13:18 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gmann: having both might be correct, I just don't know right now | 13:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | I should copy the summary I guess | 13:19 |
| gmann | sure | 13:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | Here we separate the concerns of what resources user has access to and | 13:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | what actions the user is allowed to do. | 13:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats basically it | 13:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | remove scope checks from policy.json | 13:19 |
| alex_xu | yea, mix the role check and scope checks into one rule, that makes people hard to understand | 13:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | also makes it easy to break Nova's API in the policy file | 13:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | now we are not breaking the whole user_id thing just yet, while we get hierarchical quotas implemented | 13:21 |
| alex_xu | and scope check isn't something people need to change | 13:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: +1 thats the hope, well its something we don't want them to change | 13:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | doing that makes this one much easier | 13:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427872 | 13:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | basically having some proper default roles for various use cases, beyond user vs global admin | 13:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: do you think you will get chance to hit those two remaining policy specs? | 13:23 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: umm | 13:23 |
| mriedem | today? | 13:23 |
| alex_xu | I didn't read that spec again. the orignal one feel mix too much thing: more role, deprecated policy..etc | 13:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: sometime this week would be cool, not worried about it being today | 13:24 |
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| mriedem | honestly i didn't grok those very well the last time i looked | 13:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: yeah, the key bit is the new role, the deprecated policy is needed to implement that | 13:24 |
| mriedem | around the time of the ptg | 13:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: that first one reads much better now I hope | 13:24 |
| mriedem | ok i guess if i still don't understand the problem i'll yell about it | 13:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: totally | 13:25 |
| mriedem | i think it was missing some clear examples before | 13:25 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: ok, i will try to read that again | 13:25 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/435485 | 13:26 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: johnthetubaguy also have a poc ^ | 13:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, its just for that first one | 13:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | gmann: thats the functional tests I was on about earlier ^ | 13:27 |
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| johnthetubaguy | now there are some fun details here, between 404 errors and 403 errors | 13:27 |
| gmann | johnthetubaguy: i see, ll look into those tomorrow. | 13:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | DB checks triggering 404s and policy triggering (sometimes) 403 errors | 13:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | but the basic idea is to have zero API impact, its just there are some inconsistencies that need to be ironed out here and there | 13:29 |
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| alex_xu | for the policy check we return 403, for scope check we return 400, i thought | 13:29 |
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| johnthetubaguy | well, its more complicated I think | 13:30 |
| gmann | 404 on policy failure ? | 13:30 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: the 404 and 403 both are expected return code, so i think it's fine. we won't impact the API | 13:30 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: agreed | 13:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | my worry is information disclosure | 13:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | someone with no access to a server, gets a 404 on that URL today | 13:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | so you can't tell if you guessed the instance uuid correctly | 13:31 |
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| johnthetubaguy | (for example) | 13:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | I vote we keep that behaviour the same, even when the check is no longer in the DB code | 13:31 |
| cdent | guessing uuids is a new olympic sport | 13:32 |
| cdent | but yeah, it is a tricky issue | 13:32 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: you already separate the scope check out of policy rule. that means the policy rule is only about whether you have permission to access the API | 13:32 |
| gmann | johnthetubaguy: you mean 404 on scope check right so people would not know anything about internal restriction etc | 13:32 |
| alex_xu | so we return 403 for polciy check is right at here. The API endpoint existed, you are just not allowed to access | 13:33 |
| alex_xu | for scope check, for a uuid, we will return 404. you can't see that instance. and we didn't leak something | 13:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, something like that | 13:34 |
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| johnthetubaguy | if you got 403 for all valid and invalid uuids, that would be fine, for example | 13:34 |
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| johnthetubaguy | its the difference in return value that means you can probe for information | 13:35 |
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| johnthetubaguy | anyways, thats all implementation detail I think, because it exact circumstances are different for different APIs | 13:35 |
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| johnthetubaguy | the functional tests we create will help discover these things | 13:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | (at least, thats how I found out there was a problem, when I wrote the POC) | 13:36 |
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| alex_xu | i need check the spec about the functional tests | 13:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think I said tests that pass before and after the change. | 13:39 |
| gmann | from first look those are really useful and ll find many issue as johnthetubaguy mentioned | 13:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | i.e. we move the check from the DB into the new logic, and the same tests should check its all good | 13:39 |
| gmann | +1 | 13:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | gmann: it shocked me how interesting they will be :) | 13:40 |
| alex_xu | ok, anything more about policy? | 13:40 |
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| gmann | johnthetubaguy: but we need to complete all those tests before new policy way | 13:41 |
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| gmann | i think those will be huge with all negative combination for all current policy | 13:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, need to add the test in each code path, before converting that code path | 13:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | we certainly shouldn't add them all first | 13:42 |
| gmann | yea that's much feasible | 13:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | most of that test I added is common boilerplate stuff, I think | 13:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | the per API stuff is quite minimal I hope | 13:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | but time will tell | 13:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, feedback very welcome on all that stuff | 13:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | I would love for us to make some progress on at least the first of those two specs this cycle | 13:44 |
| alex_xu | +1 | 13:44 |
| gmann | \o/ | 13:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | granted, the third spec should not be started until the first two are completed | 13:44 |
| alex_xu | yea | 13:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool, seems like we are roughly agreed on the approach, which is all good | 13:45 |
| alex_xu | yes | 13:45 |
| alex_xu | I didn't get progress for the poc of remove stevedore, hope I bring news in next week | 13:46 |
| alex_xu | we have three items in the open, if nothing more for priorities, let us jump to open | 13:46 |
| cdent | alex_xu++ on that stuff. | 13:46 |
| alex_xu | cdent: thanks | 13:46 |
| cdent | (the removal of stevedore) | 13:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that tottally needs removing | 13:47 |
| alex_xu | #topic open | 13:47 |
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| alex_xu | mriedem: your turn | 13:47 |
| mriedem | yay | 13:47 |
| mriedem | i just replied to comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447149/ | 13:47 |
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| johnthetubaguy | (FWIW, we hit some strangeness around limits and used limits looking at that policy stuff, so the collapse of those would be nice at some point) | 13:47 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: some clarifying questions for you | 13:47 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: thanks | 13:47 |
| mriedem | ken'ichi also brought up the os-hosts API | 13:48 |
| mriedem | which i didn't even think of, | 13:48 |
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| mriedem | but now that i look at it, is basically the same as the os-services API, except it has some additional actions, like stop/start/reboot | 13:48 |
| mriedem | so that's pretty ugly | 13:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, most of those are broken too | 13:48 |
| mriedem | i don't know why we have 2 APIs for the same resource, but i've questioned this over my tenure in nova | 13:48 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: i haven't looked at what supports those APIs, but assume it's xen | 13:48 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: quite the opposite I think | 13:49 |
| mriedem | because xen is always the oddball in the API | 13:49 |
| mriedem | oh | 13:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think its more about clustered hypervisors where that distinction becomes important | 13:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | quite how you start a host that is shutdown and no nova-compute service running on it, for example | 13:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | it might be left over from the old pre-ironic stuff, I haven't dug to check that | 13:50 |
| alex_xu | i feel we add new 'uuid' field explicitly better than change the id field's value to a uuid | 13:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: so I guess we need to stage this work somehow, we could go with the more obvious fixes first | 13:50 |
| mriedem | looks like xen and hyperv support host_power_action | 13:51 |
| mriedem | but vcenter doesn't | 13:51 |
| mriedem | nor libvirt or ironic | 13:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: hmm, must have been baremetal than, I know its mostly broken for xen | 13:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | probably worth deprecating that API I guess | 13:51 |
| mriedem | maybe first step is opening a bug about actually documenting wtf os-hosts does and what supports it :) | 13:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 13:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | then deprecating it | 13:52 |
| mriedem | ok so i think i basicaly have two open questions for the spec, | 13:52 |
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| mriedem | 1. do we change the os-services action APIs to take a service_id rather than rely on looking up the service by hostname/binary in the body? | 13:52 |
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| mriedem | e.g. PUT /os-services/{service_id}/disable | 13:52 |
| mriedem | PUT /os-services/disable-log-reason | 13:53 |
| mriedem | { | 13:53 |
| mriedem | 'disabled_reason': 'host os upgrade maintenance' | 13:53 |
| mriedem | } | 13:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am +1 that myself | 13:53 |
| mriedem | err PUT /os-services/{service_id}/disable-log-reason | 13:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that | 13:53 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: gmann: cdent: opinions on that? | 13:53 |
| * cdent is thinking | 13:54 | |
| mriedem | feel free to just chime in on the spec when you have time | 13:54 |
| alex_xu | so we want to introduce that new action way? | 13:54 |
| mriedem | i want dansmith to review it before i make changes | 13:54 |
| alex_xu | not /os-services/{service_id}/action, anymore? | 13:54 |
| dansmith | ack | 13:54 |
| cdent | i'll give the review a real review later today | 13:55 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: we already have PUT /os-services/disable today | 13:55 |
| gmann | and user will get service_id from list | 13:55 |
| mriedem | with a body like: | 13:55 |
| mriedem | { "host": "host1", "binary": "nova-compute" } | 13:55 |
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| alex_xu | mriedem: at least we consistent with other existed apis i think | 13:55 |
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| mriedem | so that becomes just PUT /os-services/{service_id}/disable | 13:55 |
| mriedem | with no body | 13:55 |
| * edleafe wakes up. Long night | 13:55 | |
| mriedem | because we don't need the host and binary to identify the service if we have the id | 13:55 |
| cdent | in general using identifiers in the URL is good | 13:56 |
| * alex_xu reminds that we only left 4 mins | 13:56 | |
| gmann | IMO /disable explicitly much cleaner than /action | 13:56 |
| mriedem | yeah honestly i had assumed this was how things already worked in here | 13:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: is that the correct URL for an action, rather than our silly /action catch all thing? | 13:56 |
| gmann | yea +1 on those | 13:56 |
| mriedem | ken'ichi didn't want /action | 13:56 |
| mriedem | which i'm fine with | 13:56 |
| cdent | johnthetubaguy: unresolved huge debate that was so huge people gave up | 13:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I think avoiding the catch all /action is probably good, I can't remember if there is already an API WG thingy for this | 13:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: ah, OK | 13:57 |
| cdent | it was abandoned | 13:57 |
| mriedem | the other thing, | 13:57 |
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| cdent | because it looked like soap | 13:57 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: cdent: usually POST is more forgiving, no? | 13:57 |
| mriedem | 2. do we also want to do this for os-hosts if we're doing it for os-services (since they are basically the same api)? | 13:57 |
| mriedem | i'd think yes | 13:57 |
| mriedem | "yes" to also doing os-hosts | 13:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, the option is to just deprecate os-hosts | 13:57 |
| gmann | me also not comfirtable for /action | 13:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | and roll any remaining things of interest into os-services | 13:58 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: if we deprecate os-hosts, | 13:58 |
| mriedem | then we have to move the stop/start/reboot actions from os-hosts to os-services | 13:58 |
| mriedem | which we could do | 13:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think we could argue they shouldn't live in our API | 13:58 |
| mriedem | it just starts to become a hell of a big spec | 13:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | so there is no replacement | 13:58 |
| mriedem | with 1 minute left, move discussion to the spec? | 13:59 |
| cdent | yes | 13:59 |
| mriedem | i also wanted sdague's thoughts on all of this too | 13:59 |
| alex_xu | yea | 13:59 |
| gmann | yes | 13:59 |
| mriedem | anyway, thanks | 13:59 |
| alex_xu | edleafe: sorry, we didn't have enough time for your item | 13:59 |
| edleafe | np | 13:59 |
| edleafe | I slept in anyway :) | 13:59 |
| johnthetubaguy | +1 on wanting sdague's view on this | 13:59 |
| alex_xu | ok, it's time to close the meeting, thanks all, let us back to the nova channel | 14:00 |
| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-03-22-13.01.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-03-22-13.01.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-03-22-13.01.log.html | 14:00 |
| alexchadin | #startmeeting watcher | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 22 14:00:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 14:00 |
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| alexchadin | Hi Watcher folks! | 14:00 |
| chrisspencer_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| sballe_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| dtardivel | hi | 14:00 |
| vincentfrancoise | o/ | 14:00 |
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| alexchadin | #info Today we have the following agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#02.2F15.2F2016 | 14:01 |
| alexchadin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#03.2F22.2F2017 | 14:01 |
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| alexchadin | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
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| alexchadin | Due to time changes the next meeting will be one hour later than usually. | 14:01 |
| pshedimb | Yayy :) | 14:02 |
| alexchadin | so be prepared next time ;) | 14:02 |
| sballe_ | ok | 14:02 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: depends on the country though :p | 14:02 |
| sballe_ | alexchadin: not for people in the US though | 14:02 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: yeah, it is applicable only for time-change countries :) | 14:02 |
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| sballe_ | :) just wanted to pshedimb to not be late | 14:03 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: even worse not all country change time on the same day... | 14:03 |
| pshedimb | sballe_, haha :) | 14:03 |
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| alexchadin | we have a lot of discussions today so I'd like to start with them | 14:03 |
| alexchadin | #topic Open discussions | 14:03 |
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| alexchadin | Python 3.5 Support – it is one of the main goals for Pike cycle and we need to meet completion criteria. | 14:04 |
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| alexchadin | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/pike/python35.html | 14:04 |
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| alexchadin | we have unit test gates for both 2.7 and 3.5 - it is great! | 14:04 |
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| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: so after a quick read it means we need to have both unit tests **and** tempest test to pass with py35 | 14:04 |
| alexchadin | but our functional tests works only with 2.7 | 14:05 |
| alexchadin | so yes, vincentfrancoise +1, we need functional gate for 3.5 | 14:05 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: I reckon they work with py34 (I checked once like 3-4 months ago) | 14:05 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: if so, I believe they will work great with 3.5 | 14:06 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: regarding tempest tests, they are really flaky these days so before getting them onto py35, we also need to spend time stabilizing them | 14:06 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: we need to define what we want from functional tests and set boundaries | 14:07 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: the situation with "one more blueprint" ;) | 14:07 |
| acabot | hi sorry to be late | 14:08 |
| alexchadin | hi acabot | 14:08 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: all api tests + the dummy strategy end2end execution | 14:08 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: +1 | 14:08 |
| alexchadin | who would like to take it? | 14:08 |
| alexchadin | I suppose we need some sort of spec here | 14:08 |
| alexchadin | which would define what tests we actually need | 14:10 |
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| alexchadin | well, I will add it to my TODO's and assign it later | 14:11 |
| alexchadin | move on | 14:11 |
| alexchadin | WSGI Support. Does our API work with WSGI? #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/pike/deploy-api-in-wsgi.html#watcher | 14:11 |
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| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: our API stack is the same as magnum and ironic so if it works for them then we should be OK | 14:12 |
| sballe_ | alexchadin: I will go through as many of the spec as i can review. based ont hese minutes | 14:13 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: there are status of projects: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/pike/deploy-api-in-wsgi.html#current-state-anticipated-impact | 14:13 |
| alexchadin | sballe_: thank you! | 14:13 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: yes but the remaining steps can be copied from ironic then | 14:14 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/api/app.wsgi seems like one of the main difference we don't have | 14:14 |
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| alexchadin | as it is one of the main goals for Pike cycle, it would be great to take it now | 14:15 |
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| adisky_ | alexchadin: I can take it | 14:16 |
| alexchadin | adisky_: thanks! | 14:16 |
| adisky_ | :) | 14:17 |
| alexchadin | #action adisky_ update WSGI status of Watcher | 14:17 |
| alexchadin | Watcher is not presented in Debian-based systems due to issue. It would be great to build package by ourselves. #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-February/112220.html | 14:17 |
| alexchadin | the main problem here is that zigo lost his contract with Mirantis, so there is no one who can hold it | 14:18 |
| alexchadin | adisky_ said that we are not presented in Debian repos for Ocata release | 14:19 |
| zigo | There's no Ocata release in Debian *at all*. | 14:19 |
| zigo | Hopefully, this may change though ... | 14:20 |
| alexchadin | Here is page https://openstack.alioth.debian.org that explains packaging process | 14:20 |
| alexchadin | hi, zigo! | 14:20 |
| zigo | No, this is old, and doesn't take into account the fact we're now packaging on OpenStack infra. | 14:20 |
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| alexchadin | zigo: could you please give us some information about building and releasing Watcher for Debian? | 14:21 |
| zigo | alexchadin: We need to first get a Stretch image into OpenStack infra, which I have been working on, then all of the rest of OpenStack needs to get packaged (oslo, etc.). | 14:22 |
| zigo | All is done through Gerrit these days. | 14:22 |
| alexchadin | zigo: is there some docs with first steps? | 14:22 |
| zigo | So just openstack/deb-watcher... | 14:22 |
| zigo | alexchadin: Basically, it's fix the issues with openstack-infra/project-config stuff. ie: ./tools/build-image.sh | 14:23 |
| zigo | Currently, it fails. | 14:23 |
| zigo | I'm not sure why yet... | 14:23 |
| zigo | Help would be appreciated. | 14:23 |
| zigo | It's been 1 week I'm on that already, and can't find what's going on. | 14:24 |
| zigo | Probably something with Puppet 4 instead of 3. | 14:24 |
| zigo | Running ./tools/build-image.sh with these variables: | 14:24 |
| zigo | export DIB_RELEASE="stretch" | 14:24 |
| zigo | export DIB_DEBOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_ARGS=--include=systemd-sysv | 14:24 |
| zigo | export DISTRO=debian-minimal | 14:24 |
| zigo | export DISTRO_NAME=debian | 14:24 |
| zigo | export CONFIG_REF=refs/changes/13/445813/4 | 14:24 |
| zigo | then fix the problems. | 14:25 |
| alexchadin | zigo: thank you. can we discuss it in our main channel, openstack-watcher? | 14:25 |
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| zigo | Sure ! Feel free to discuss that Stretch issue on #openstack-infra or even #openstack-pkg if you like too. | 14:25 |
| alexchadin | zigo: great! | 14:25 |
| zigo | Once that's done, I believe I can release Ocata quite fast. | 14:26 |
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| alexchadin | #action continue discussion with zigo about building Watcher for Ocata | 14:26 |
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| alexchadin | move on | 14:26 |
| alexchadin | adisky reported that python-watcherclient is not included in rdo repo of python-openstackclient. | 14:26 |
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| adisky_ | alexchadin: correction there is no rpm package of python-watcherclient | 14:27 |
| adisky_ | we have rpm packages available for watcher, but not for watcher-client | 14:27 |
| zigo | number80 is the nick behind all RDO stuff. | 14:28 |
| adisky_ | so i am unable to complete installation guide for rdo | 14:28 |
| zigo | Chat with him ... | 14:28 |
| alexchadin | adisky_: can you resolve this issue? | 14:29 |
| adisky_ | zigo: thanks :) | 14:29 |
| adisky_ | alexchadin: yes i will | 14:29 |
| alexchadin | #action adisky_ contact number80 to resolve rpm-issue | 14:30 |
| alexchadin | #topic Review Action Items | 14:31 |
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| alexchadin | Watcher | 14:31 |
| alexchadin | Versioned Notifications for service object needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437333/ | 14:31 |
| alexchadin | who would like to review it? | 14:32 |
| chrisspencer_ | +1 | 14:32 |
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| vincentfrancoise | +1 | 14:32 |
| alexchadin | it isn't big patch | 14:32 |
| alexchadin | thanks chrisspencer_ vincentfrancoise | 14:33 |
| alexchadin | #action chrisspencer_ vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437333/ | 14:33 |
| alexchadin | Add Gnocchi datasource needs final core reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438530/ | 14:33 |
| sanfern | hello | 14:34 |
| alexchadin | hi sanfern | 14:34 |
| sballe_ | hi | 14:34 |
| alexchadin | I can't just +2 on my patch :) | 14:34 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: will you take a look? | 14:35 |
| pshedimb | +1 | 14:35 |
| alexchadin | pshedimb: thanks | 14:35 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: on this one there were comments you didn't answer | 14:35 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: ah sure | 14:35 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: so I remember I was waiting for you to answer before putting a +2 | 14:36 |
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| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: once you do, I'll review it once more | 14:36 |
| alexchadin | #action vincentfrancoise pshedimb review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438530/ when alexchadin update it | 14:36 |
| alexchadin | Added suspended audit state needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438800/ | 14:36 |
| pshedimb | alexchadin, also gnocchi is moving out of openstack. will it affect the patch? | 14:37 |
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| alexchadin | pshedimb: I've seen this thread and they promise that there won't be any changes for projects which use it | 14:38 |
| pshedimb | alexchadin, okay :) | 14:38 |
| vincentfrancoise | pshedimb: alexchadin what about gnocchi moving out? can I have a link about this? | 14:38 |
| alexchadin | pshedimb: they will have changes with CI, but should remain OpenStack support | 14:39 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: let me find | 14:39 |
| sanfern | vincentfrancoise, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447438/ | 14:39 |
| pshedimb | vincentfrancoise, Gnocchi guys submitted request to OpenStack congress to move out of openstack | 14:39 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/114300.html | 14:39 |
| sballe_ | Maybe we should do the same down the line if we want to support other eco-system than openstack... Not now but just food for thoughts | 14:40 |
| alexchadin | pshedimb: although there were some opinions that they are more OpenStack-related than they thought | 14:40 |
| acabot | they just want to leave the big tent | 14:40 |
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| acabot | it doesn't mean it will not work with openstack anymore | 14:41 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: pshedimb: so that means there is won't be any openstack-tagged telemetry project anymore | 14:41 |
| sballe_ | acabot: I agree | 14:41 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: yeap | 14:41 |
| sballe_ | how about Monasca they claim to do it all | 14:41 |
| pshedimb | vincentfrancoise, alexchadin Ceilometer is still there | 14:42 |
| pshedimb | The main component of telemetry | 14:42 |
| alexchadin | pshedimb: ceilometer doesn't have API | 14:42 |
| sballe_ | pshedimb: but witth no supported APIS | 14:42 |
| sballe_ | alexchadin: lol | 14:42 |
| alexchadin | pshedimb: high five!:D | 14:42 |
| pshedimb | alexchadin sballe_ , yeah we gotta use backend like mongodb | 14:42 |
| pshedimb | haha :D | 14:42 |
| sballe_ | indfluxDb is better for the stuff we are lookign at doing anywau | 14:43 |
| pshedimb | Gnocchi is just a backend. So any other backend like Mongo or HBase will work just fine. | 14:43 |
| sballe_ | s/anyway | 14:43 |
| vincentfrancoise | which is why Watcher should definitely be datasource agnostic as much as possible | 14:43 |
| alexchadin | pshedimb: gnocchi works perfectly as API for Ceilometer | 14:43 |
| pshedimb | alexchadin, Yeah I agree. | 14:43 |
| alexchadin | let's leave this discussion for main channel | 14:44 |
| sballe_ | +1 | 14:44 |
| vincentfrancoise | +1 | 14:44 |
| alexchadin | we have only 15 minutes left | 14:44 |
| pshedimb | +1 | 14:44 |
| alexchadin | move on | 14:44 |
| alexchadin | Prevent the migration of VM with 'optimize' False in VM metadata needs new PS | 14:45 |
| alexchadin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443070/ | 14:45 |
| alexchadin | pksingh is not here | 14:45 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: I discussed this with him | 14:45 |
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| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: +1 | 14:45 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: I've seen it | 14:45 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: Have you got some conclusion? | 14:46 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: basically, the code made me realise there was another issue with the nova metadata representation | 14:46 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: we have an XML reprenstation to declare scenarios | 14:46 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: this is a declarative/human readable system to make it easy in tests | 14:47 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: is it applicable only for basic_consolidation strategy? | 14:47 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: but the metadata breaks it (or at least the test do not pass because dicts are unordered so we cannot dafely bootstrap) | 14:47 |
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| vincentfrancoise | safely* | 14:48 |
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| pksingh | Hello | 14:48 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: so we need to ensure that we can test the model which contains json | 14:48 |
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| vincentfrancoise | pksingh: hi | 14:49 |
| pksingh | vincentfrancoise: Hi | 14:49 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: before we can carry on with what pksingh was actually trying to do in the first place | 14:49 |
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| alexchadin | #action vincentfrancoise and pksingh work together on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443070/ | 14:49 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: does that make sense? | 14:49 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: yeah | 14:50 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: good :) | 14:50 |
| alexchadin | Adding tempest test that executes outlet_temp_control strategy. needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439184/ | 14:50 |
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| pshedimb | +1 | 14:50 |
| alexchadin | #action pshedimb review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439184/ | 14:51 |
| alexchadin | Reduced the code complexity needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441873/ | 14:51 |
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| alexchadin | stale the action plan needs final core reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/440927/ | 14:52 |
| alexchadin | I will review it, who else? | 14:52 |
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| alexchadin | #action alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/440927/ | 14:53 |
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| alexchadin | Add gnocchi support in basic_consolidation strategy needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/440293/ | 14:53 |
| chrisspencer_ | +1 | 14:54 |
| alexchadin | sanfern provided new PS yesterday, let's review it | 14:54 |
| alexchadin | #action chrisspencer_ alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/440293/ | 14:54 |
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| alexchadin | exception when running 'watcher service list' needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447354/ | 14:55 |
| chrisspencer_ | +1 | 14:55 |
| alexchadin | I have a question here: is it good pattern to have one named hosts? | 14:55 |
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| alexchadin | same named* | 14:56 |
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| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: I guess no, but sometimes legcy bites... | 14:57 |
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| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: well, let's ask licanwei about it | 14:58 |
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| alexchadin | #action alexchadin put some comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447354/ | 14:58 |
| alexchadin | we have only 2 minutes left | 14:58 |
| acabot | no time left for specs :-D | 14:59 |
| alexchadin | Don't forget there are 5 specs which are waiting for your reviews | 14:59 |
| alexchadin | acabot: unfortunately... | 14:59 |
| alexchadin | well, thank you for your attention | 14:59 |
| vincentfrancoise | bye everyone | 14:59 |
| alexchadin | bye | 15:00 |
| sanfern | bye | 15:00 |
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| pshedimb | bye | 15:00 |
| ostroverkhov | bye | 15:00 |
| acabot | bye | 15:00 |
| chrisspencer_ | bye | 15:00 |
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| alexchadin | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 22 15:00:28 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-03-22-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-03-22-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-03-22-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| serverascode | #startmeeting operators_telco_nfv | 15:01 |
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| serverascode | hmm | 15:01 |
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| serverascode | #startmeeting operators_telco_nfv | 15:02 |
| shintaro | hi | 15:03 |
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| GeraldK | hi | 15:04 |
| shintaro | hi GeraldK | 15:04 |
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| serverascode | can't seem to get the meeting started | 15:05 |
| serverascode | not too sure why | 15:05 |
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| serverascode | but I guess lets get going | 15:05 |
| GeraldK | hi shintaro and serverascode | 15:05 |
| GeraldK | serverascode, I believe you had an extra space before #startmeeting | 15:05 |
| serverascode | oh | 15:06 |
| serverascode | #startmeeting operators_telco_nfv | 15:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 22 15:06:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is serverascode. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: operators_telco_nfv)" | 15:06 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'operators_telco_nfv' | 15:06 |
| serverascode | yay! | 15:06 |
| shintaro | o/ | 15:06 |
| GeraldK | o/ | 15:06 |
| GeraldK | just the three of us today? | 15:06 |
| serverascode | thanks GeraldK :) | 15:06 |
| shintaro | to start with | 15:07 |
| serverascode | ok, lets get going :) | 15:07 |
| serverascode | #topic boston forum | 15:07 |
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| serverascode | ok so there is some kind of forum happening at the next summit | 15:08 |
| shintaro | yes | 15:08 |
| serverascode | I don't think that we will be getting the meeting space we requested, and instead it's the forum | 15:08 |
| shintaro | and the agenda is here #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-UC-brainstorming-Telecom&NFV | 15:08 |
| serverascode | yeah shintaro I think you have a bit better understanding of whats happening :) | 15:08 |
| serverascode | do you want ot try to explain? | 15:09 |
| shintaro | so as I have heard, there wont be ops meetup at the summit, but only the Forum | 15:09 |
| serverascode | ok | 15:09 |
| shintaro | Forum is for the ops to give feedback to devs for longer term stragetgy planning | 15:10 |
| serverascode | too bad jamie from the lcoo isn't here today, I think they were briefed on the forum | 15:10 |
| serverascode | it also looks like we have to submit forum session requests? | 15:10 |
| serverascode | http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ | 15:11 |
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| serverascode | #link http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ | 15:11 |
| shintaro | Right now the brainstorming for the session planning is going on | 15:11 |
| serverascode | so should we be submitting somethere there? or will groups like the LCOO submit? | 15:11 |
| GeraldK | right. proposed topicd in the Etherpad link shintaro had shared | 15:11 |
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| GeraldK | my understanding is we have to submit if we want some Telco/NFV specific sessions | 15:11 |
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| shintaro | yes. put the NFV related agenda to the etherpad and will be considered the proposal | 15:12 |
| GeraldK | the user committee also has a similar Etherpad to collect session ideas | 15:12 |
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| shintaro | oh which one GeladK | 15:12 |
| jamemcc | Hi - i am here now | 15:13 |
| serverascode | so we should be adding session ideas to the etherpad, then at some point someone will submit? | 15:13 |
| serverascode | hey jamemcc | 15:13 |
| GeraldK | deadline for the proposals was March 14th | 15:13 |
| GeraldK | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-UC-brainstorming | 15:13 |
| serverascode | ah, ok so that is done now then | 15:13 |
| serverascode | jamemcc do you know anything about the status of the next summit forum? | 15:14 |
| serverascode | and nfv related sessions? | 15:14 |
| shintaro | I don't know who but Telco-NFV is already proposed and the ehterpad was created | 15:14 |
| GeraldK | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Boston2017 list of all Boston Summit planning Etherpads | 15:14 |
| jamemcc | I only know about the contents of the pad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-UC-brainstorming-Telecom&NFV and that we have been asked and to some extent have added our topics there | 15:15 |
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| jamemcc | For LCOO we really havent' added there yet | 15:15 |
| shintaro | I see Gluon topic prposal there | 15:15 |
| jamemcc | Right | 15:15 |
| GeraldK | Did you discuss about the proposal on gaps in openstack related to NFV and related to the ETSI STF in Milan or a previous meeting? | 15:16 |
| shintaro | what does STF stands for? | 15:16 |
| GeraldK | ETSI specialist task force. see line 30 in the NFV/Telco Etherpad page | 15:17 |
| serverascode | ok, well I'm not sure what to do here, but at least we all know about the right etherpads and the submission page :) | 15:18 |
| shintaro | no not at the ops meetup. but we disucussed that we need to discuss gaps in openstack | 15:18 |
| serverascode | I had put a item on the agenda for shintaro to let us know what happened at the ops meeutp in milan | 15:18 |
| jamemcc | For the Gluon and for the new PWG User Proposals (previously known as User Stories) we wil be submitting matchign Forum Topic Proposals | 15:18 |
| GeraldK | shintaro: yes. I had seen the discussion on gaps in the minutes. | 15:18 |
| jamemcc | But not yet decided if those will be called LCOO Forum topics or not | 15:19 |
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| jamemcc | Tomorrow morning is our weekly LCOO meeting and that's on the agenda | 15:19 |
| shintaro | yes, there were only few telco at the ops meetup but we had more than 10 attendees in the room | 15:19 |
| serverascode | does anyone think there is something specific this group should be doing around the forum session? | 15:20 |
| shintaro | we discussed that we should discuss the gaps between OPNFV requirements and current Openstack | 15:20 |
| serverascode | if not then perhaps we move onto the next topic | 15:20 |
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| serverascode | doesn't seem like it :) | 15:21 |
| GeraldK | from an email on the forum submission process: There are two stages to the brainstorming: 1. Starting today, set up an etherpad with your group/team, or use one on the list and start discussing ideas you'd like to talk about at the Forum. Then, through +1s on etherpads and mailing list discussion, work out which ones are the most needed - just like you did prior to the ops events. 2. Then, in a couple of week | 15:21 |
| jamemcc | It's good to not let that drop - there was also an outreach directly to OPNFV | 15:21 |
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| jamemcc | I know Kathy C attended their meeting a week ago | 15:21 |
| shintaro | Also we agreed that the docunentation work that have been undertaken by this group was important | 15:21 |
| jamemcc | And the Gluon topic there was a result of that | 15:21 |
| GeraldK | so, a second submission stage is required. | 15:22 |
| jamemcc | I guess that specifically OPNFV is handlign ehri own entries into the Forum. | 15:22 |
| GeraldK | deadline for submission is April 2nd: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ | 15:22 |
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| serverascode | ok, but is there anything *we* should be doing? | 15:23 |
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| serverascode | LCOO is working on it, OPNFV is working on it... | 15:23 |
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| GeraldK | if we (NFV/Telco team) want to propose some of the ideas listed in the Etherpad we should submit it | 15:23 |
| shintaro | I think we should handle the telco-nfv session proposals | 15:24 |
| GeraldK | We should pick our favorites from the Etherpad and submit them | 15:24 |
| shintaro | yes +1 | 15:24 |
| serverascode | ah ok | 15:25 |
| GeraldK | results will be available from April 10th | 15:25 |
| shintaro | it should be working group session proposal | 15:25 |
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| serverascode | is there anything from the etherpad that you think are important? | 15:26 |
| shintaro | the proposal from Jay is really interesting | 15:26 |
| GeraldK | there are 5 topics that had received >= 2 votes | 15:26 |
| GeraldK | have you all already voted? | 15:27 |
| serverascode | no I have not myself | 15:27 |
| GeraldK | shintaro: which of the proposals by Jay are you referring to? | 15:27 |
| serverascode | 2 votes is not very many for the entirity of the NFV ecosystem :) | 15:27 |
| shintaro | I also want to discuss about the networking northbound API | 15:27 |
| shintaro | the placement API GeraldK | 15:27 |
| GeraldK | maximum is 5 votes so this shows little outreach we have and how unfamiliar we all are still with the process | 15:27 |
| serverascode | yeah | 15:28 |
| GeraldK | shintaro: +1 on this topic | 15:28 |
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| serverascode | perhaps we will have to do a bit of organization via email? our next meeting is not until april 5th i believe | 15:29 |
| serverascode | which would be after the deadline for forum submissions | 15:29 |
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| GeraldK | otherwise, if we agree on 2 or 3 topics now, we could assign ourselved to do one submission each | 15:30 |
| shintaro | via ML, yes | 15:30 |
| GeraldK | ML would also be okay for me. | 15:30 |
| serverascode | ok, are you both on the openstack operators list? | 15:31 |
| shintaro | yes | 15:31 |
| GeraldK | yes | 15:32 |
| serverascode | ok cool | 15:32 |
| serverascode | perhaps lets try to do this by email out in the open | 15:32 |
| GeraldK | we then also need to agree on a "champion" who will lead the session/discussion at the Forum in case it is accepted. | 15:32 |
| serverascode | that's a good point, I had htought I heard that maybe there would be someone from the foundation tasked with that? and with taking notes? | 15:33 |
| serverascode | like a professional facilitator? | 15:33 |
| serverascode | not sure if that is actually happening though | 15:33 |
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| serverascode | if you two are ok with it, I will start a mailing list thread under telecom-nfv, and perhaps others will jump in and help out | 15:34 |
| shintaro | +1 | 15:34 |
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| serverascode | if we need to we can set an impromptu meeting next week in #openstack-nfv or something | 15:35 |
| serverascode | GerladK does that sound ok? | 15:35 |
| serverascode | GeraldK does that sound ok? | 15:35 |
| GeraldK | +1 | 15:35 |
| serverascode | cool | 15:35 |
| serverascode | jamemcc you still there? | 15:35 |
| shintaro | there are already names in the session proposal on the etherpad and they might want to lead the session | 15:36 |
| serverascode | yeah | 15:36 |
| GeraldK | shintaro: +1 | 15:36 |
| serverascode | ok lets move onto the next topic | 15:36 |
| serverascode | #topic multi-site docs | 15:36 |
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| serverascode | I don't know if either of you are interested in this topic, but it's more of a point of information that the arch guide | 15:37 |
| serverascode | is being rewritten, and the multi-site docs that were there are no longer there | 15:37 |
| serverascode | so there are currently no official docs on multi-site/region | 15:37 |
| serverascode | and perhaps they could use some help writing those | 15:37 |
| GeraldK | can you share a link to the arch docs? | 15:37 |
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| serverascode | yup one sec | 15:37 |
| serverascode | so this is whta is online now: | 15:38 |
| serverascode | l#link https://docs.openstack.org/arch-design/ | 15:38 |
| serverascode | one sec to track down the git repo | 15:38 |
| serverascode | #link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/doc | 15:39 |
| serverascode | if you go to the above link you can see the "arch-design-to-archive" that has the old multi-stie docs | 15:39 |
| shintaro | Heidi from the Foundation said we can get their support in finalizing the document as in the #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-ops-telco-nfv line37 | 15:39 |
| serverascode | oh interesting | 15:40 |
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| serverascode | I will have to review the mil ops doc :) | 15:40 |
| GeraldK | why was the multi-site being proposed to be removed? is the text too outdated? | 15:40 |
| serverascode | I don't know if it's being removed, I'm not completely sure what is going on with the arch-guide | 15:41 |
| serverascode | I think it's just being rewritten piece by piece | 15:41 |
| serverascode | there is also potentially a NFV section to it | 15:41 |
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| serverascode | so piece by piece, they just haven't gotten to it yet, and could probably use some help | 15:42 |
| serverascode | also I know that OPNFV has a multi-site team | 15:42 |
| serverascode | I just think it's interesting how important some form of multi-site is for NFV, and there are currently no official docs | 15:42 |
| GeraldK | yes. there is a multi.site team in OPNFV. should I drop them an email related to this? | 15:42 |
| serverascode | that would be great if you would! :) | 15:42 |
| serverascode | do you want to take that as an action item? | 15:43 |
| GeraldK | yes. | 15:44 |
| serverascode | #action GeraldK email OPNFV multi-site group regarding new arch-guide multi-site section | 15:44 |
| serverascode | cool thanks GeraldK | 15:44 |
| serverascode | any other thoughts on that topic? | 15:44 |
| serverascode | or move on? | 15:44 |
| serverascode | #topic Report on Milan Ops Meetup | 15:45 |
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| serverascode | shintaro are you still there? | 15:45 |
| shintaro | yes | 15:45 |
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| serverascode | do you want to say a couple things about the ops meetup and NFV? | 15:45 |
| serverascode | or the ops meetup in general? was it pretty good? | 15:46 |
| shintaro | there were only few telco ops in the room, but we had 10+ ppl in the room | 15:46 |
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| serverascode | what were the non-telco ops peoole interested in? | 15:46 |
| serverascode | mostly wondering what NFV is? | 15:47 |
| shintaro | we discussed whether the documentation work was useful for them and got feedback that the documentation is important for other ops as well | 15:47 |
| serverascode | ok so docs were important | 15:47 |
| shintaro | serverascode: other ops was large ops who where interested in NFV usecases | 15:47 |
| shintaro | that might be applied to their environment as well | 15:48 |
| serverascode | organizations like comcast? | 15:48 |
| shintaro | datacenterd and OSIC guys were there | 15:48 |
| serverascode | ah ok | 15:48 |
| shintaro | we also discussed that we should address networking issues | 15:49 |
| shintaro | for instance issues related to SR-IOV and DPDK | 15:49 |
| serverascode | ok | 15:49 |
| serverascode | sounds like a good session | 15:50 |
| serverascode | anything else to mention or onto "open discussion"? :) | 15:50 |
| shintaro | yes, interface between MANO and Openstack | 15:50 |
| shintaro | what is missing in OpenStack to mandate MANO requirement in terms of northbound APIs | 15:51 |
| serverascode | ok that is interesting, a good place to look for gaps | 15:52 |
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| shintaro | everyone agreed OpenStack is NFVI de-facto standard but no one was sure what was missing in OpenStack | 15:52 |
| serverascode | maybe nothing then :) | 15:53 |
| serverascode | ok thanks shintaro, I will go over that etherpad | 15:53 |
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| shintaro | that was about it | 15:53 |
| serverascode | with a few min left I want to move onto open discussion | 15:54 |
| serverascode | #topic open discussion | 15:54 |
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| serverascode | if anyone has any items... :) | 15:54 |
| GeraldK | email to OPNFV multisite team is sent out | 15:54 |
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| serverascode | awesome thanks GeraldK | 15:54 |
| serverascode | I will start a thread later today on the NFV forum sessions | 15:55 |
| shintaro | great! | 15:55 |
| GeraldK | +1 | 15:55 |
| serverascode | if no other items, then I guess we can close the meeting | 15:55 |
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| serverascode | thank you two for attending :) | 15:55 |
| serverascode | jamemcc thanks too :) | 15:55 |
| shintaro | thank you | 15:56 |
| serverascode | talk to you on the mailing list :) | 15:56 |
| serverascode | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 22 15:56:20 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_telco_nfv/2017/operators_telco_nfv.2017-03-22-15.06.html | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_telco_nfv/2017/operators_telco_nfv.2017-03-22-15.06.txt | 15:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_telco_nfv/2017/operators_telco_nfv.2017-03-22-15.06.log.html | 15:56 |
| GeraldK | bye | 15:56 |
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| inc0 | #startmeeting kolla | 15:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 22 15:59:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is inc0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:59 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:59 |
| egonzalez | woot o/ | 15:59 |
| inc0 | #topic rollcall | 15:59 |
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| duonghq | o/ woot | 15:59 |
| jascott1 | woot | 15:59 |
| sdake | o/ | 15:59 |
| kfox1111 | o/ | 15:59 |
| mnaser | o/ | 15:59 |
| egonzalez | welcome duonghq ;) | 15:59 |
| rwellum | o/ | 15:59 |
| asettle | o/ | 15:59 |
| duonghq | thank egonzalez | 15:59 |
| blallau | Hi all | 15:59 |
| spsurya_ | o/ | 15:59 |
| sbezverk | o? | 15:59 |
| sbezverk | o/ | 16:00 |
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| zhubingbing | o/ | 16:00 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | \o/ | 16:00 |
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| akwasnie | o/ | 16:00 |
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| pbourke | w00t | 16:01 |
| mandre | o/ | 16:01 |
| pbourke | egonzalez: you gotta wait for the official announcement :p | 16:01 |
| inc0 | yup, so I'll just do it:P | 16:01 |
| inc0 | #topic announcements | 16:01 |
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| lazyPower | o/ | 16:02 |
| inc0 | Welcome duonghq in our core team!:) | 16:02 |
| pbourke | duonghq: welcome nice job | 16:02 |
| vhosakot | o/ | 16:02 |
| kfox1111 | o/ | 16:02 |
| vhosakot | w00t w00t | 16:02 |
| spsurya_ | nice duonghq | 16:02 |
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| Jeffrey4l_ | congrats duonghq | 16:02 |
| zhubingbing | ;) | 16:02 |
| sdake | grats dude :) | 16:02 |
| akwasnie | duonghq: welcome:) | 16:02 |
| bogdando | o/ | 16:03 |
| mnaser | quick everyone take advantage and get your +2s in | 16:03 |
| mnaser | >:) | 16:03 |
| inc0 | mnaser: >:( | 16:03 |
| sdake | if only the gate wer eworkign :) | 16:03 |
| mnaser | but congrats! :-P | 16:03 |
| duonghq | thank inc0, pbourke, egonzalez, Jeffrey4l_ akwasnie sdake and all other core gave me support, I'll do my best for our deliverables | 16:03 |
| vhosakot | congrats duonghq! | 16:03 |
| inc0 | any community announcements? | 16:03 |
| sdake | duonghq would like to see ya core on kolla-kubernetes at some point too :) | 16:03 |
| inc0 | we have busy agenda today:) | 16:03 |
| duonghq | sdake, sure | 16:03 |
| sdake | yup i have one | 16:03 |
| inc0 | go on | 16:04 |
| sdake | since the ptgs were pretty disruptive to our kolla-kubernetes schedule, I moved 0.6.0 to 4-15-2016 | 16:04 |
| sdake | (from 3-15-2017) | 16:04 |
| sdake | rather 4-15-2017 | 16:04 |
| sdake | enjoy :) | 16:04 |
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| inc0 | ok moving on to agenda items | 16:04 |
| inc0 | #topic unwedging the gate (Jeffrey4l, mnaser) | 16:04 |
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| inc0 | gentleman, you have the floor | 16:05 |
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| mnaser | right so: gate was broken by bifrost (for the second time) | 16:05 |
| inc0 | drop bifrost from voting gates? | 16:05 |
| mnaser | the first time we werent pointing to the right python exec and they started installing system packages which broke things | 16:05 |
| sdake | inc0 that was my suggestion | 16:05 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | i have no idea for this issue right. | 16:05 |
| mnaser | the second time (time), it seems to be related to ansible_env.SUDO_USER missing | 16:05 |
| sdake | the only gating that happens is the image build | 16:06 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | i tried change "ansible_env.SUDO_USER to root. but another issue happends | 16:06 |
| mnaser | i proposed and merged a patch which i thought would fix it (missing defaults): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447713/ | 16:06 |
| sdake | we can *temporarily* unblock the gate by droping bifforst from it | 16:06 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | 'dict object' has no attribute 'bootstrap'" | 16:06 |
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| Jeffrey4l_ | sdake, yes. we can | 16:06 |
| mnaser | Jeffrey4l_ interesting, i didnt try to fix that... i did some digging on monday, but tuesday and today have been busy in $job so yeah. | 16:07 |
| inc0 | I think that's good discussion to have - having voting and non-voting build gates at same time | 16:07 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | i will try to find more later. | 16:07 |
| inc0 | voting with lower number of projects | 16:07 |
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| Jeffrey4l_ | on master we depends on lots of other project,which may break our jobs easily ;( | 16:08 |
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| mnaser | well during this whole thing i was thinking it would be really cool if we added checks for each project we build images for (and the job builds images for that specific project only) | 16:08 |
| mnaser | if bifrost images were built on bifrost reviews, it could give them some indication of "hey you broke something". it could either be $project filing a bug saying "we changed this, please reflect your stuff accordingly" | 16:08 |
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| mnaser | or they can realize that they did break something somewhere | 16:08 |
| inc0 | mnaser: issue is, we're bound to what is in tarballs.o.o today | 16:09 |
| mnaser | but again, going back to our issue | 16:09 |
| duonghq | have we had internal docker registry, I cannot recall, sorry. But mnaser's idea need this | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | mnaser, like devstack does ? that will be nice | 16:09 |
| inc0 | that's one | 16:09 |
| mnaser | but going back to the main subject | 16:09 |
| mnaser | i think putting bifrost aside to stop the project from halting for now.. | 16:10 |
| mnaser | i would be behind it | 16:10 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | inc0, based on tarballs.o.o site. the project could build his new image ( bifrost ) + tarball.o.o images. | 16:10 |
| mnaser | the reason is there is another issue apparently with python-mysqldb which i saw on launchpad | 16:10 |
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| mnaser | and honestly, the bifrost images seem to have a lot of, uh, hacky things. | 16:10 |
| inc0 | yeah, thats why I'd be ok to drop it from voting | 16:11 |
| mnaser | https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/docker/bifrost/bifrost-base/Dockerfile.j2#L29-L31 | 16:11 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | beyond this. base on inc0's idea, we can set a priority on building image in master branch. i.e. bifrost failed, that's OK and +1, nova failed, critical -1 | 16:11 |
| mnaser | as an example | 16:11 |
| inc0 | and add non-voting gates with more images | 16:11 |
| mnaser | i like that idea, 2 jobs | 16:11 |
| duonghq | Jeffrey4l_, you mean we have mandatory and optional image inside our gate script? | 16:12 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | inc0, we can re-use the current jobs. | 16:12 |
| duonghq | *will have | 16:12 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l_: yeah, and just change profile confs | 16:12 |
| mnaser | one that builds core, one that builds $world | 16:12 |
| mnaser | i agree with this | 16:12 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | inc0, if add extra-jobs, we have to add centos/ubuntu/oracle ** binary/source = 6 jobs. | 16:12 |
| inc0 | yeah | 16:12 |
| inc0 | I don't think that's big issue | 16:12 |
| mnaser | oraclelinux jobs take forever and it would be nice if we had mirrors :-( | 16:13 |
| inc0 | pbourke: ^ told ya:P | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | ;/ | 16:13 |
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| inc0 | let's do this | 16:13 |
| mnaser | also an interesting aspect is this might not be as bad because | 16:13 |
| pbourke | they take ~10 mins more than centos from what Ive seen | 16:13 |
| inc0 | 1. drop bifrost as it blocked our dev | 16:13 |
| inc0 | from voting | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | then how about push tarball registry? | 16:14 |
| mnaser | if we build $core in one job, and $non-core in another job, we only duplicate the base image building, so we dont have that much "wasted" resources | 16:14 |
| inc0 | 2. create non-voting gates | 16:14 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l_: good question | 16:14 |
| mnaser | yeah that's a tricky one | 16:14 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | and this should be only happen in master. | 16:14 |
| inc0 | is there any way to "soft-fail" job? | 16:14 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | we should keep all voting in stable branch. | 16:15 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | inc0, i guess no. mnaser do you have any idea on "soft fail"? | 16:15 |
| mnaser | i dont think there is such thing | 16:15 |
| inc0 | like, we have some notion of fail, but won't block | 16:15 |
| mnaser | its a pass or fail, voting or non voting | 16:15 |
| inc0 | yeah I guess | 16:15 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | inc0, we can define soft fail ;) | 16:15 |
| mnaser | i think we handle this in our scripts | 16:15 |
| inc0 | ok, my suggestion (modified) | 16:16 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | just like what i said :) | 16:16 |
| inc0 | let's drop bifrost from voting asap | 16:16 |
| inc0 | and start ML thread | 16:16 |
| duonghq | is soft-fail hard to tracking issue? | 16:16 |
| mnaser | build images, if $core images fail, exit 1, if $core pass and $non-core fail, exit 0 but push what you got | 16:16 |
| inc0 | it needs more discussion | 16:16 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | great. | 16:16 |
| mnaser | +1 | 16:16 |
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| Jeffrey4l_ | mnaser, yes. i prefer to do this. | 16:16 |
| inc0 | mnaser: can you publish patch with bifrost drop? | 16:16 |
| mnaser | shooure | 16:16 |
| inc0 | many thanks good sir | 16:17 |
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| inc0 | btw it's soft fail I was thinking of, what mnaser described | 16:17 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | mnaser, drop it and please file a bug to track this ;) | 16:17 |
| mnaser | can i use the same one i had for the gate failures? | 16:17 |
| inc0 | only thing is we somehow need to have info that if soft-failed visible somewhere | 16:17 |
| inc0 | mnaser: yeah | 16:18 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | ya. i think it is OK. | 16:18 |
| mnaser | https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/1674483 | 16:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1674483 in kolla "Bifrost failing because of missing SUDO_USER" [Critical,Confirmed] | 16:18 |
| inc0 | ok let's move on | 16:18 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | inc0, ya. i'd like something soft-fail to support. | 16:18 |
| inc0 | (sorry, busy agenda) | 16:18 |
| inc0 | #topic Native helm config maps (sbezverk) | 16:18 |
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| inc0 | sbezverk: go ahead | 16:18 |
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| sbezverk | ok, configmaps, there was a proposal to use ansible | 16:21 |
| inc0 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448258/ | 16:21 |
| berendt | o/ | 16:21 |
| kfox1111 | to clarify, I thin kthe proposal was to temporarily use ansible as we are now, but move it closer to kolla-kubernetes. | 16:21 |
| sbezverk | to generate configmaps, but imho it is not ideal. I would still like to explore | 16:21 |
| sbezverk | helm charts to generate them | 16:21 |
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| kfox1111 | sbezverk: +1 | 16:22 |
| kfox1111 | I thikn helm based configmaps are a better place to go long term. | 16:22 |
| inc0 | sbezverk: issue with this is....helm charts are not ideal today and porting it all to helm will be a lot of work | 16:22 |
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| sbezverk | based on what I see, helm has native way to support this specific functionality | 16:22 |
| kfox1111 | short term, just moving the code from kolla-ansible -> kolla-kubernetes would reduce the breakage we see periodically. | 16:22 |
| inc0 | without things like parent values | 16:22 |
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| sbezverk | I do not see any reason notto use it, unless people know something that prevents | 16:22 |
| mnaser | i don't know a lot about the k8s stuff, but i would love to have a shared lib/repo rather than us maintaining the same thing in two places | 16:23 |
| inc0 | just a lot of work | 16:23 |
| inc0 | mnaser: that was idea behind using kolla-ansible to generate configs for k8s | 16:23 |
| kfox1111 | what I want to prevent, is yet a 3rd required workflow.... ansibe for generating some config, kollakube for some other ressources, and helm for yet more. | 16:23 |
| inc0 | but it turns out that configs in fact differs | 16:23 |
| sbezverk | well, if I had right syntax, it would be a chart common to ALL services with only 6-8 lines of code | 16:23 |
| inc0 | kfox1111: I'd really like to get rid of kollakube tbh | 16:23 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: I fully agree. | 16:24 |
| sbezverk | +1 | 16:24 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: but I'm saying, it should go, before we add yet another kollakube. | 16:24 |
| kfox1111 | or at the same time. | 16:24 |
| inc0 | my plan with ansible is to repeal and replace kollakube | 16:24 |
| inc0 | and it's gonna be great | 16:25 |
| sbezverk | it makes sense to have genconfig moved, we should not even try to implement it at least short term | 16:25 |
| kfox1111 | 100% repeal. not 50%, I'm saying. | 16:25 |
| inc0 | kfox1111: yeah | 16:25 |
| sbezverk | but for configmap using helm seems logical to me.. | 16:25 |
| kfox1111 | sbezverk: I agree with you. but one of the stated goals is to allow microservices to be configed by any mechanism. | 16:25 |
| kfox1111 | I think we should provide a helm based config option. | 16:25 |
| srwilkers | sbezverk, i agree 100% | 16:25 |
| kfox1111 | but if others want to perminanly support an ansible based one, I wouldn't block it. | 16:26 |
| inc0 | my question tho - we need to explore how helm would deal with self-prepared configs | 16:26 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: not sure it needs to? | 16:26 |
| inc0 | I see 2 approaches here | 16:26 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: sure thing | 16:26 |
| inc0 | kfox1111: I'd say yes, there are companies that handcrafted their confs | 16:26 |
| kfox1111 | user uploads the configmaps, the microservices consume them. | 16:26 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: sorry, that was ambiguous. | 16:27 |
| kfox1111 | I meant, I'm not sure anything has to change today to support hte use case. we already do. | 16:27 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111 +2 | 16:27 |
| inc0 | yeah, today we generate tons of configs and then just add them to k8s | 16:27 |
| sbezverk | we just mount whatever matches the needed name | 16:27 |
| inc0 | that or just add your own | 16:27 |
| sbezverk | does not matter what you used to generate them | 16:28 |
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| inc0 | but if we move configmaps to charts, won't that be issue? | 16:28 |
| inc0 | I mean...is configmap a microservice? | 16:28 |
| inc0 | (I'd say that's a step too far tbh) | 16:28 |
| sbezverk | inc0: we can bundle configmap charts | 16:29 |
| sbezverk | into corresponding services | 16:29 |
| sbezverk | for example providing complete deployable package | 16:29 |
| inc0 | but then won't helm re-create resources? | 16:29 |
| duonghq | sbezverk, you mean configmap will be one of the chart template? | 16:29 |
| sbezverk | duonghq: yes | 16:29 |
| sbezverk | inc0: as dependency | 16:29 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: no. the configmaps would be seperate charts. the user can launch them too, or not. | 16:30 |
| inc0 | if it's inside chart, it won't be dependenct right? | 16:30 |
| sbezverk | inc0: I have not tried at least yet, but it should be doable | 16:30 |
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| kfox1111 | like, maybe we create helm/configmaps/xxxxx | 16:30 |
| duonghq | how do we deal with node-specific config? or will we suffer that? | 16:30 |
| inc0 | ehh | 16:30 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: exactly what I think too | 16:30 |
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| inc0 | and then init container doing sed:/ | 16:30 |
| kfox1111 | duonghq: group specific config could be handled by instancing. | 16:30 |
| inc0 | I must say I don't like this. Chart-configmap is...overkill | 16:31 |
| sbezverk | inc0: you cannot completely get rid of sed, ever!! | 16:31 |
| kfox1111 | helm install nova-compute-configmap --set element_name=foo | 16:31 |
| kfox1111 | helm install nova-compute --set element_name=foo | 16:31 |
| inc0 | sbezverk: because we need to put interface in configmap | 16:31 |
| sbezverk | inc0: there ae tons of run time only known parameters | 16:31 |
| inc0 | and that's not something k8s supports very well | 16:32 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: thats again, the lowest level. you can wrap them up in grouping charts if you don't care about the details. | 16:32 |
| sbezverk | inc0: there is not interface in kube | 16:32 |
| sbezverk | inc0: only IP | 16:32 |
| duonghq | how about static pod provide such that value? | 16:32 |
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| inc0 | sbezverk: yeah, but ovs doesn't care about what is or not in kube | 16:32 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: we handle that usually with init containers. it already works. | 16:32 |
| sbezverk | which are dynamically allocated | 16:32 |
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| inc0 | ok, so back to the topic at hand | 16:33 |
| sbezverk | so run time config modification is ineviatable | 16:33 |
| inc0 | how we do configmaps in helm? I dunno yet | 16:33 |
| inc0 | sbezverk: but sed isn't great tool to do it imho | 16:33 |
| kfox1111 | my vote is /helm/configmaps/xxx charts. | 16:33 |
| sbezverk | inc0: the idea is to use common config chart | 16:33 |
| kfox1111 | we can provide templates for the most common things we need to configure. | 16:33 |
| sbezverk | which will pull inside of a configmap all config files | 16:34 |
| sbezverk | generated by kolla genconfog | 16:34 |
| kfox1111 | users can override settings via the cloud.yaml settings, or | 16:34 |
| kfox1111 | upload their own configmaps. | 16:34 |
| inc0 | one chart to have just configs? I don't like that tbh | 16:34 |
| duonghq | I do not like put every thing in cloud.yaml, it'll be very huge file | 16:34 |
| kfox1111 | sbezverk: your thinking one chart for all configmaps? | 16:34 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: no | 16:34 |
| kfox1111 | ok. | 16:35 |
| sbezverk | one chart per /etc/kolla/neutron-server | 16:35 |
| inc0 | I think configmaps should be part of microservice chart | 16:35 |
| kfox1111 | sbezverk: +1 | 16:35 |
| sbezverk | one chart per /etc/kolla/neutron-openvswitch0agent | 16:35 |
| sbezverk | etc | 16:35 |
| spsurya_ | duonghq: +1 | 16:35 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: what does that buy you? | 16:35 |
| inc0 | better correlation between microservice and config it uses | 16:35 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: that assumes you will be using that configmap. | 16:36 |
| inc0 | we will effectively double number of microservices, which is significant today | 16:36 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: so? | 16:36 |
| inc0 | most people will | 16:36 |
| inc0 | use base configmap | 16:36 |
| kfox1111 | computekit-configmap | 16:36 |
| sbezverk | inc0: most people will use service or compute | 16:36 |
| kfox1111 | can aggregate them all up so those that don't want to think about them, dont have to. | 16:36 |
| sbezverk | kit and we can bundle | 16:36 |
| sbezverk | configmaps there as dependencies | 16:37 |
| kfox1111 | right. | 16:37 |
| kfox1111 | yeah | 16:37 |
| duonghq | sbezverk, +1 | 16:37 |
| kfox1111 | service/neutron can bundle the configmaps with helm conditionals. | 16:37 |
| duonghq | but, will we have configmap @ microservice level or also service level? | 16:37 |
| inc0 | I know we can do all that | 16:37 |
| kfox1111 | embeded_configmaps=true | 16:37 |
| sbezverk | duonghq: the idea is to have configmap at the same level | 16:38 |
| sbezverk | as microsecices | 16:38 |
| sbezverk | and then bundle them on a needed basis | 16:38 |
| sdake | hey sorry was otp :) | 16:38 |
| duonghq | sbezverk, wfm | 16:38 |
| inc0 | ehh...idk, I think chart per every resource is a bit of unneeded churn | 16:38 |
| inc0 | maybe not a bit | 16:39 |
| inc0 | microservice, fine, but configmap? seems ugly to me | 16:39 |
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| inc0 | but that is just my personal opinion I didn't though through fully | 16:39 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: folks like tripleo are now talking with us, becuase we're staying neutral to things like config generation. | 16:39 |
| inc0 | think through* | 16:39 |
| sbezverk | I would suggest to try both approaches | 16:39 |
| inc0 | both - no | 16:40 |
| sbezverk | to gain better undersatnding of pros and cons | 16:40 |
| inc0 | ahh try | 16:40 |
| inc0 | sorry misread you | 16:40 |
| kfox1111 | following the aproach lets us continue to be unbiased on config management technologies. | 16:40 |
| sdake | inc0 why no, you said you wouldn't be married to any ansible implementation | 16:40 |
| sbezverk | just try, cause what I just said was theory ;) | 16:40 |
| inc0 | yeah, third approach is to assume existing configmaps and provide tool to create them | 16:40 |
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| inc0 | sdake: we're not talking about ansible | 16:40 |
| sdake | ok | 16:41 |
| inc0 | which is what we do today | 16:41 |
| inc0 | just tools are ugly | 16:41 |
| sdake | what are the 2 approaches | 16:41 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. | 16:41 |
| sdake | sorry - i could scorllback but it takes awhile | 16:41 |
| sdake | 2 one liners will do | 16:41 |
| inc0 | configmap as microservice on its own or part of existing microservice | 16:41 |
| mnaser | (sorry guys but there are 4 more items and something id like to bring up in the open discussion and $time -- just a hint :x) | 16:41 |
| duonghq | I concern about something like config merge and override as in kolla-ansible, not sure if we need it and how do we done it efficient | 16:42 |
| sdake | i think we want configmap as separate helm chart right? | 16:42 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. seperate. | 16:42 |
| inc0 | we don't know what we want yet | 16:42 |
| portdirect | that seems a bit overkill? | 16:42 |
| sdake | inc0 i think we do ;) | 16:42 |
| inc0 | I'm not too hot on separate chart | 16:42 |
| sbezverk | that is what we suggest to try | 16:42 |
| lazyPower | i say straw man it, and let the design shake itself out based on how many times you bump into the rough edges | 16:42 |
| sdake | lazyPower ++ | 16:43 |
| lazyPower | seems like conjecture otherwise | 16:43 |
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| inc0 | yeah, and in the meantime I'll just move ansible generation as we already have code | 16:43 |
| sdake | inc0 wfm - we need to eject kolla-ansible as adep soon - its annoying :) | 16:43 |
| lazyPower | inc0: we aren't talking about ansible ;) | 16:43 |
| kfox1111 | 99% of the work is getting hte configmaps into gotl. | 16:43 |
| kfox1111 | 1% is where in the fs they land. | 16:43 |
| inc0 | yeah | 16:44 |
| inc0 | I'm afraid of gotl:( | 16:44 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: hehe. its... interesting. | 16:44 |
| sdake | one path forward is to focus on what goes in the gotpls | 16:44 |
| lazyPower | its very very similar to liquid templates | 16:44 |
| sdake | and then sort out where to put them through iteration | 16:44 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | ( time, guys ) | 16:44 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: atm we do not even need to do ANY templating | 16:44 |
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| lazyPower | not exactly like it, but very close. so if you have some chops in jinja/liquid you should be on the right path. | 16:44 |
| kfox1111 | been a while since I used a polish notation language before gotl. | 16:44 |
| sbezverk | we can take config files as is and dump them into corresponding configmap | 16:45 |
| kfox1111 | sbezverk: we will need to do some I think. iscsi vs ceph, etc. | 16:45 |
| sdake | ok peeps - lots of pepeps complaining we should have timboxed this session can we move on :) | 16:45 |
| kfox1111 | sbezverk: mostly minor things though. | 16:45 |
| inc0 | #topic Deployment guide | 16:45 |
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| sbezverk | kfox1111: but know we do not do it at all, so first step would be to match what we do now | 16:45 |
| sdake | deployment guide has lots o -1s | 16:45 |
| sdake | thansk for the reviews folks | 16:45 |
| sdake | I'm going to give it a spa treatment _today_ | 16:46 |
| kfox1111 | sbezverk: we dont' do it because genconfig does it. but if genconfig is getting repleaced by helm, then we need to do it. | 16:46 |
| sdake | woudl appreciate people that are interested add themselves as a reviewer | 16:46 |
| rwellum | I'm not sure about copying the etherpad directly into a review like that? | 16:46 |
| sdake | to fllow progress | 16:46 |
| rwellum | I found it a little confusing.. | 16:46 |
| rwellum | Because there are embedded comments. | 16:46 |
| sdake | rwellum it wont be after i update it | 16:46 |
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| rwellum | sure | 16:46 |
| sdake | rwellum i agree its confusing now | 16:46 |
| sdake | update is in progress on my disk now | 16:47 |
| sdake | there are 40 comments in gerrit - so takes awhiel to get thorugh | 16:47 |
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| sdake | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447731/ please add yourself as a reviewer if you want to follow the work or have contributions to make | 16:48 |
| sdake | thanks inc0 | 16:48 |
| inc0 | ok, so moving on?:) | 16:48 |
| sdake | yup | 16:48 |
| sbezverk | sdake: practice showed that the most efficient approach is to get together and go step by step, people can follow in their environment and share comments in the real time.. | 16:48 |
| inc0 | #topic KS rolling upgrade review | 16:48 |
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| spsurya_ | inc0: sdake: patch need reviews of cores https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425446/ depend on mentioned patch of kolla | 16:48 |
| inc0 | spsurya_: floor is yours | 16:48 |
| sdake | sbezverk wfm - we can do that after i get the doc cleaned up | 16:48 |
| sdake | sbezverk so we have some sanitary starting point | 16:49 |
| spsurya_ | inc0: need core review | 16:49 |
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| spsurya_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425446/ | 16:49 |
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| spsurya_ | that is all from my for today | 16:49 |
| spsurya_ | my side* | 16:49 |
| inc0 | ok:) | 16:50 |
| duonghq | should we rebase and try to get all gate green before move on for this ps? | 16:50 |
| duonghq | only ubuntu-binary failed | 16:50 |
| inc0 | ok, I'll bump post-ptg bps to next week | 16:50 |
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| sdake | duonghq yo ucan just recheck - no need to rebase | 16:50 |
| spsurya_ | duonghq: seems like that | 16:50 |
| inc0 | #topic open discussion | 16:50 |
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| sdake | duonghq recheck automatically does a rebase - tested and confirmed by many people | 16:50 |
| mnaser | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447524/ | 16:50 |
| mnaser | dockerhub publishers in infra | 16:51 |
| mnaser | i got some feedback from infra team, i wanted to ask some folks at kolla to give some comments/feedback | 16:51 |
| sdake | mnaser ++ thanks for kicking that off :) | 16:51 |
| lazyPower | inc0: open discussion - is this where i can bring up a topic from last week that got postponed? | 16:51 |
| duonghq | sdake, I'll try, last time I do recheck, it didn't rebase, I'm not sure | 16:51 |
| mnaser | so i can make another revision to the review to throw towards infra folks | 16:51 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | i will release next z stream for newton and mitaka branch. any advice and idea? | 16:51 |
| sdake | duonghq i'll talk to after meeting on this topic ok? | 16:51 |
| inc0 | lazyPower: yeah | 16:51 |
| mnaser | (thats all i had to say, just wanted to put peoples eyes on it) | 16:51 |
| duonghq | sdake, wfm, thanks | 16:51 |
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| Jeffrey4l_ | inc0, ^ | 16:52 |
| sdake | could folks in kolla interested in the dockerhub pushing add yourself to that review mnaser linked? | 16:52 |
| sdake | TIA :) | 16:52 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l_: hold on a sec | 16:52 |
| inc0 | kfox1111: lazyPower have different way to deploy k8s on ubuntu right?:) | 16:52 |
| lazyPower | I'd like to re-propose the topic of adding the Canonical Distribution of Kubernetes to the Kolla CI system. We'll be happy to run it, do the integration path, and submit results so you get warm fuzzies knowing kolla will always work on top of the CDK which is the officially supported method to deploying k8s on ubuntu. | 16:52 |
| lazyPower | yeah, sorry was typing out that short novel ^ | 16:53 |
| sdake | lazyPower are you the fella we met at the PTG from cononical? | 16:53 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: ubuntu has a product now for k8s. | 16:53 |
| lazyPower | sdake: correct | 16:53 |
| sdake | lazyPower nice to see ya onnline and in the community :) | 16:53 |
| lazyPower | sdake: well one of about 3 engineers that were in/out of the room anyway :) but yeah i was the primary driver of the talks for CI integration | 16:53 |
| kfox1111 | lazyPower: yeah, that would be cool. | 16:53 |
| sdake | lazyPower we have typically stayed away from third party gating, although this is because people misunderstand that at some point it becomes voting | 16:53 |
| lazyPower | Thanks sdake, glad to be here | 16:53 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | mancdaz, will review the specs. thanks for the work. | 16:53 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l_: we should release z streams for ocata at the same time | 16:53 |
| sdake | lazyPower so as long as you understand (infra) wont allow it to be voting, i think that is a great idea | 16:54 |
| inc0 | lazyPower: what we need is k8s and ceph deployed, can you provide this part? | 16:54 |
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| Jeffrey4l_ | yes. but i am thinking leave another week for ocata branch. | 16:54 |
| lazyPower | sdake: this is contrary information from what iw as told, which is not entirely a deal breaker but this means i have to take this new info back to management so they can weigh in. but i dont think this will be a hug eissue | 16:55 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | will release 4.0.1 next week. | 16:55 |
| lazyPower | inc0: we can, we already deploy k8s + have relations to ceph for RBD based PV enlistment | 16:55 |
| sdake | lazyPower openstack infrstruture just wont allow third party gates to vote | 16:55 |
| sdake | lazyPower its not something this team has any control over | 16:55 |
| lazyPower | sdake: thats understandable. I came back from the PTG with the understanding that once integrated we could be a voting gate | 16:55 |
| sdake | lazyPower by vote I mean block a review | 16:55 |
| inc0 | lazyPower: alternatively to 3rd party non voting we can just write it in infra | 16:55 |
| lazyPower | whichi means i got bad info, and i'm going to have to ammend that | 16:55 |
| inc0 | as regular infra gates | 16:56 |
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| sdake | lazyPower join me in openstack-infra after, and we can confirm with the team | 16:56 |
| lazyPower | sure thing | 16:56 |
| inc0 | I understand it's all opensource | 16:56 |
| sdake | lazyPower right - not sure who you got th ebad info from, this is why we hav eavoided third party gates in the past :) | 16:56 |
| lazyPower | Thats basically all I had, was to get the ball rolling here, and see what follow up steps we needed to take to even get started. | 16:56 |
| sdake | lazyPower followup step is communicating with openstack-infra about how to do third party gating | 16:57 |
| sdake | lazyPower asuming your fine with a nonvoting gate | 16:57 |
| kfox1111 | lazyPower: thanks for working on it. more testing on things users really care about is always a good thing. :) | 16:57 |
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| sdake | lazyPower happy to facilitate the conversation if anyone is around in openstack-infra in about 1 hr :) | 16:57 |
| sdake | lazyPower or any of the cores can do it now if they are available | 16:58 |
| inc0 | I'll join you in a second there | 16:58 |
| sdake | inc0 can handle it then, i've got a meeting in 2 minutes :) | 16:58 |
| inc0 | anyway, we're reacing the end times | 16:58 |
| inc0 | ok, in 1 hr then | 16:58 |
| sdake | END OF DAYS -- DADA | 16:58 |
| sdake | inc0 infra knows you as well as me, you can handle it :) | 16:58 |
| inc0 | thank you all for coming | 16:58 |
| inc0 | kk | 16:59 |
| sdake | thanks everyone | 16:59 |
| inc0 | #endmeeting kolla | 16:59 |
| lazyPower | sdake: can do | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 22 16:59:08 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-03-22-15.59.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-03-22-15.59.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-03-22-15.59.log.html | 16:59 |
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| mnaser | later folks | 16:59 |
| lazyPower | cheers o/ | 16:59 |
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