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| danoffek | HI guys | 07:57 |
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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 4 08:00:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
| ifat_afek | Hi :-) | 08:00 |
| danoffek | Hi guys | 08:00 |
| nbloom | Hello!!! | 08:00 |
| eyalb | hi | 08:00 |
| yujunz | hi | 08:01 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:02 | |
| ifat_afek | Ocata development is about to end this month. The feature freeze is on January 27. | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | Boston CFP is now open. Let’s start thinking about ideas for sessions. We can submit proposals until February 6th. | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/call-for-presentations/ | 08:03 |
| yujunz | What features are ready for ocata at the moment? | 08:04 |
| elisha_r | hello | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | I will finish the Doctor impelmentation (will update about it soon), and hopefully eyalb will finish the collectd integration | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | I’m doing a fast-fowrard update here ;-) maybe we should ask everyone to update about their own status | 08:05 |
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| alexey_weyl | Hi Guys :) | 08:05 |
| danoffek | Hi. Working on Vitrage ID. | 08:05 |
| yujunz | I will continue working on static data source and I think it will catch up with ocata | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | So I’ll update about Doctor: I’m done writing a Doctor datasource for Vitrage, that will implement Doctor SB API. Waiting for your code reviews. | 08:05 |
| nadav | hi | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414742/ | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://review.openstack.org/414975 | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | I suggest we go one by one, and then have a topic about Ocata. Makes sense? | 08:06 |
| yujunz | Agree | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | So who has other updates? | 08:07 |
| yujunz | I will | 08:07 |
| yujunz | static datasource is pending for a few weeks and now resumed | 08:08 |
| yujunz | I'll finish the transformer part as soon as possible | 08:08 |
| yujunz | But I have a question on the recent refactoring on transformer | 08:08 |
| yujunz | Will it affect static datasource? | 08:08 |
| yujunz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415684/ | 08:09 |
| yujunz | ping alexey_weyl | 08:09 |
| yujunz | OK, I saw a reply on gerrit | 08:10 |
| alexey_weyl | yes, it will affect you a bit, but don't use it yet, because the Doctor datasource should be pushed first, and then we will approve the refactoring | 08:10 |
| yujunz | Is there any background for this refactoring? | 08:10 |
| yujunz | What is changed in summary? | 08:10 |
| alexey_weyl | after that you can pull it from the master and use it, but don't worry it's not such a big change | 08:10 |
| yujunz | OK | 08:11 |
| alexey_weyl | the reason fro the refactoring is that there are 2 new datasources that are being added to Vitrage at the moment, and they saw that those methods of the create_placeholder and the create_neighbor are basically the same and should sit at the base where everyone can use it | 08:12 |
| yujunz | I see. Maybe adding these notes into the commit message will help reviewers to understand :-) | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | alexey_weyl: you just moved a function to the base class, right? | 08:13 |
| alexey_weyl | yujunz: no problem :) | 08:13 |
| yujunz | OK thanks. That's all from my side | 08:14 |
| alexey_weyl | ifat_afek: kind of, I moved them, and adjusted them so they will be much more robust for usage | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | alexey_weyl: ok, thanks. I’ll review it soon | 08:14 |
| alexey_weyl | Thanks | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | I forgot another update on my side: I plan to start writing another blueprint, for implementing Doctor SB API in Vitrage. We should have an API for “send event” or something similar, that will send the event to the message bus. Then, Doctor datasource will read it from there | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | Anyone else wants to update? | 08:16 |
| eyalb | I am still working on the collectd datasource | 08:16 |
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| usman | Hello everyone | 08:17 |
| alexey_weyl | I am waiting for feedback from aodh on the commits that I have pushed | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | Hi usman | 08:18 |
| alexey_weyl | you can see the changes here: | 08:18 |
| alexey_weyl | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413008/ | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | alexey_weyl: did you push all of your code, or is it just the first phase? | 08:18 |
| alexey_weyl | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413594/ | 08:18 |
| alexey_weyl | not all the code yet, but anyfeedback would be great | 08:19 |
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| ifat_afek | alexey_weyl: Great. I’ll try to review, although I’m not familiar with Aodh code | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | Any other update anyone? | 08:20 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Ocata Release | 08:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ocata Release (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:21 | |
| ifat_afek | So let’s see what we expect to have ready for Ocata | 08:21 |
| ifat_afek | Doctor Datasource + SB API should be ready | 08:21 |
| yujunz | low risk on static datasource evolution | 08:22 |
| danoffek | Vitrage Id | 08:22 |
| ifat_afek | dwj: Are you here? you finished the Aodh notifications for Vitrage, right? I see that the blueprint is still open | 08:22 |
| dwj | yes | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/vitrage/+spec/aodh-message-bus-notifications | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | BTW, you can see all Ocata blueprints here: | 08:23 |
| dwj | It's already finished | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/vitrage/+spec/aodh-message-bus-notifications | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/vitrage/ocata | 08:23 |
| dwj | I'll change the status later | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | dwj: great, thanks | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | eyalb: what about collectd and red hat? | 08:23 |
| eyalb | I hope so :-) | 08:24 |
| ifat_afek | great | 08:24 |
| ifat_afek | alexey_weyl: I guess Aodh is in risk because you got no reviews yet? | 08:24 |
| yujunz | What is red hat? | 08:25 |
| yujunz | apex installer? | 08:25 |
| alexey_weyl | yes, it is a risk, because there are a lot of stuff yet to do there, and I need to get feedbacks and responses from the Aodh team | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | yujunz: We would like to support Apex installer, and base it on TripleO installation. Currently we are waiting for RDO | 08:25 |
| eyalb | I pushed the initial spec file of vitrage to rdo and I am waiting for there response | 08:26 |
| ifat_afek | So the apex installer is also in risk | 08:26 |
| yujunz | So red hat = https://blueprints.launchpad.net/vitrage/+spec/support-tripleo-instllation | 08:26 |
| yujunz | right? | 08:26 |
| yujunz | And apex is another story | 08:26 |
| ifat_afek | (But the apex installer not a pure Vitrage task, it’s an OPNFV one) | 08:27 |
| ifat_afek | yujunz: right | 08:27 |
| ifat_afek | Both are in risk | 08:27 |
| yujunz | I see. Thanks | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | eyalb: I’ll mark collectd blueprint for Ocata as well | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/vitrage/+spec/collectd-datasource | 08:28 |
| eyalb | ok | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | Anything that I forgot?… | 08:29 |
| yujunz | How is neo4j going? | 08:30 |
| yujunz | Any chance to get it ready? | 08:30 |
| ifat_afek | BTW, yujunz: eyalb is working on collectd datasource, and collectd DPDK plugin raises alarms on the bridges. This is the reason he wants to use the new static datasource | 08:30 |
| yujunz | Thanks for reminding ifat_afek. I'll try to speed up | 08:31 |
| ifat_afek | yujunz: no problme | 08:32 |
| yujunz | How about neo4j? | 08:33 |
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| alexey_weyl | yujunz: at the moment we are thinking about our steps regarding the neo4j because in the community edition it doesn't support HA, and thus it is a problem. | 08:33 |
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| ifat_afek | yujunz: and in any case, I doubt if have enough time left to finish it for Ocata | 08:33 |
| yujunz | Is there a big gap to migrate community edition to commercial neo4j? | 08:34 |
| ifat_afek | yujunz: there are two issues with the commerical Neo4J | 08:34 |
| yujunz | I mean integrate community version in openstack/vitrage and leave it to commercial user the migration tasks | 08:34 |
| alexey_weyl | The persistent graph DB is very important, but we need to make sure that we are using the correct one that gives us the most tools as a DB. | 08:35 |
| ifat_afek | You can either pay for the license, or use GPL3 license which is “contaminating” (meaning your entire code must become open source as well) | 08:35 |
| yujunz | OK, so the community version is licensed under GPL3 | 08:35 |
| yujunz | That's really something | 08:36 |
| ifat_afek | Your suggestion is to have non-HA version in openstack, and a possibility to use the commercial version in another product (Nokia/ZTE)? | 08:36 |
| ifat_afek | the community version is apache license, no problem with that. The commerical version is GPL3 | 08:36 |
| yujunz | Yes, things like that | 08:36 |
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| yujunz | Alright, I kind of understand the issue now | 08:37 |
| ifat_afek | I already checked the license issue. Neo4j does not exist in openstack at the moment, but there is no problem to add it to the global requirements (I believe the package name is py2neo) | 08:38 |
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| ifat_afek | But we did not check the issue of using the community version vs. the commerical version in different distributions | 08:39 |
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| yujunz | I guess we need a lawyer for this issue :-) | 08:40 |
| ifat_afek | Right :-) | 08:40 |
| yujunz | Is there any alternative solution? | 08:40 |
| yujunz | I remember we mentioned another in summit | 08:40 |
| ifat_afek | We did not investigate it yet | 08:40 |
| yujunz | But forgot the name | 08:41 |
| ifat_afek | I know there are a few graph databases, but I don’t know of anyone from Vitrage who did a thorough evaluation | 08:41 |
| ifat_afek | I don’t remember either | 08:41 |
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| ifat_afek | Anything else, for Ocata or on a different topic? | 08:44 |
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| ifat_afek | See you next week! | 08:46 |
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| nbloom | bye :) | 08:47 |
| eyalb | bye | 08:47 |
| yujunz | See | 08:47 |
| alexey_weyl | bye bye | 08:47 |
| dwj | bye | 08:47 |
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| usman | bye | 08:47 |
| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:47 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 4 08:47:54 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-01-04-08.00.html | 08:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-01-04-08.00.txt | 08:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-01-04-08.00.log.html | 08:47 |
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| acabot | #startmeeting watcher | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 4 09:00:05 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is acabot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 09:00 |
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| vincentfrancoise | o/ | 09:00 |
| sballe_ | Hi | 09:00 |
| acabot | o/ | 09:00 |
| hidekazu | hi | 09:00 |
| acabot | happy new year everyone ! | 09:00 |
| licanwei | hi | 09:00 |
| sballe_ | Thx | 09:00 |
| dtardivel | hi | 09:00 |
| acabot | #info our agenda for today #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#01.2F04.2F2016 | 09:01 |
| vincentfrancoise | Happy New Year ! | 09:01 |
| acabot | #topic Announcements | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:01 | |
| dtardivel | Bonne Année 2017 - Happy New Year to you all | 09:01 |
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| acabot | #info Watcher ocata-2 has been released on December 15th | 09:02 |
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| acabot | we missed 2 BPs for this release because of late reviews | 09:02 |
| sballe_ | +1 | 09:02 |
| acabot | sorry alexchadin for postponing your 2 BPs to ocata-3 | 09:02 |
| acabot | so now we have 12 BPs for ocata-3 ! | 09:02 |
| Yumeng | hi | 09:03 |
| acabot | #info Pike PTLs self nomination will start January 23rd and Watcher needs to find a new PTL | 09:03 |
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| acabot | as said in the ML #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-December/109019.html I wont be candidate for a 4th cycle | 09:03 |
| acabot | so please think about becoming Watcher PTL before January 23rd | 09:04 |
| acabot | ;-) | 09:04 |
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| acabot | you should also know that nobody from bcom will be candidate (vincentfrancoise, dtardivel, jed56) | 09:05 |
| acabot | and I'd like to avoid having no candidate for the election :-) | 09:06 |
| acabot | lets move on | 09:06 |
| acabot | #topic Review Action Items | 09:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:06 | |
| acabot | we really need to finalize a couple of specs here | 09:06 |
| acabot | Audit tag in VM Metadata There are +1s but TODOs are still left in spec | 09:06 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 09:07 |
| acabot | hvprash told me that he will work on this one this week | 09:07 |
| acabot | #actio hvprash complete and finalize spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 09:07 |
| acabot | #action hvprash complete and finalize spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 09:08 |
| acabot | Define grammar for workload characterization needs a new PS an answering previous comments | 09:08 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/ | 09:08 |
| acabot | sballe : could you please try to add a new PS ? | 09:08 |
| acabot | sballe_ : could you please try to add a new PS ? | 09:09 |
| sballe_ | Yes hvprash and I will do that this week | 09:09 |
| acabot | #action hvprash sballe_ : answer comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/ | 09:09 |
| acabot | Support Description For Dynamic Action needs a new PS | 09:09 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401111/ | 09:10 |
| acabot | is hanrong here ? | 09:10 |
| acabot | #action hanrong add a new PS on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401111/ | 09:11 |
| Yumeng | nope. she will join very soon | 09:11 |
| acabot | Yumeng : thx | 09:11 |
| acabot | Spec for Noisy Neighbor Startegy needs reviews | 09:11 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/ | 09:11 |
| acabot | who wants to review this strategy ? | 09:11 |
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| acabot | Add improvements to the planner and workflow mechanisms needs final reviews | 09:12 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385871/ | 09:12 |
| sballe_ | I can review | 09:12 |
| acabot | #action sballe_ acabot : final review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385871/ | 09:13 |
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| acabot | Add improvements to Applier to make it parallel needs reviews | 09:13 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413079/ | 09:13 |
| acabot | #action sballe_ acabot hvprash review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413079/ | 09:14 |
| acabot | cluster energy saving needs to be resubmitted as launchpad does not allow to change the superseded state | 09:14 |
| hidekazu | i want to review | 09:14 |
| acabot | #action hidekazu review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413079/ | 09:14 |
| acabot | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/cluster-energy-saving | 09:14 |
| acabot | Yumeng hanrong : I cant remove the superseded state in launchpad so could you resubmit your BP with the same description ? | 09:15 |
| acabot | I'd like to keep the ZTE origin of drafted bps | 09:15 |
| acabot | Yumeng : could you do it ? | 09:16 |
| Yumeng | yes, will do. | 09:17 |
| acabot | #action Yumeng resubmit BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/cluster-energy-saving as a new PB | 09:17 |
| Yumeng | actually i think hanrong has updated that .. i didn't find the link | 09:17 |
| acabot | she updated the description | 09:17 |
| acabot | but I cant remove the superseded state | 09:18 |
| acabot | moving to Watcher | 09:18 |
| acabot | Add auto_trigger support to watcher needs final reviews & merge | 09:18 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403718/ | 09:18 |
| acabot | do we need to create a new BP for BDB migration before moving on ? | 09:19 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: I can review this one | 09:19 |
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| sballe_ | Me too | 09:19 |
| acabot | #action vincentfrancoise sballe_ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403718/ | 09:19 |
| sballe_ | What's BDB? | 09:19 |
| acabot | sorry DB | 09:19 |
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| sballe_ | 😀 | 09:20 |
| acabot | Graph model needs reviews | 09:20 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362730/ | 09:20 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: if we want to have a Watcher 1.0, yes | 09:20 |
| acabot | I'd like to have it merge by octata-3 | 09:20 |
| acabot | #action acabot submit a BP to handle DB migration | 09:21 |
| acabot | who wants to review the graph model ? | 09:21 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: I started already so count me on | 09:21 |
| acabot | ok thx | 09:21 |
| acabot | #action vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362730/ | 09:22 |
| acabot | Added Monasca Helper needs reviews | 09:22 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348891/ | 09:22 |
| sballe_ | I can review | 09:23 |
| acabot | who wants to review ? | 09:23 |
| hidekazu | I will | 09:23 |
| acabot | thx | 09:23 |
| dtardivel | +1 | 09:24 |
| acabot | #action sballe_ hidekazu dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348891/ | 09:24 |
| acabot | Multi datasource support for Basic Consolidation needs discussions | 09:24 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414617/ | 09:24 |
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| acabot | the point from licanwei is should we add an abstraction layer | 09:25 |
| acabot | to deal with multiple datasource (Monasca, Gnocchi) | 09:25 |
| acabot | it has been a very long discussion on our side | 09:25 |
| acabot | vincentfrancoise proposed a BP for that #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/watcher-multi-datasource | 09:26 |
| acabot | for now we decided to implement a basic version with backend choice in the strategy | 09:27 |
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| acabot | it means that every strategy will be specific to a metrics backend | 09:27 |
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| acabot | who wants to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414617/ ? | 09:28 |
| dtardivel | +1 | 09:28 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414617/ | 09:28 |
| acabot | New default planner & check the state of action plan needs final reviews | 09:28 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406991/ | 09:29 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391383/ | 09:29 |
| acabot | New default planner needs to be discussed with alexchadin | 09:30 |
| vincentfrancoise | +1 | 09:30 |
| vincentfrancoise | I proposed an alternative that I would like to discuss with him | 09:30 |
| acabot | #action vincentfrancoise dtardivel : sync with alexchadin about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406991/ | 09:30 |
| vincentfrancoise | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415505/ | 09:30 |
| acabot | #action vincentfrancoise dtardivel final reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391383/ | 09:32 |
| acabot | Watcher CLI | 09:32 |
| acabot | Add auto_trigger support needs final reviews & merge | 09:32 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403716/ | 09:32 |
| dtardivel | acabot: there is a Depends-On rule | 09:33 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel review & merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403716/ | 09:34 |
| acabot | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 09:34 |
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| acabot | Watcher ocata-3 has started and finishes on January 23rd with 12 BPs to finish | 09:34 |
| acabot | #info Watcher ocata-3 has started and finishes on January 23rd with 12 BPs to finish | 09:34 |
| acabot | #link https://launchpad.net/watcher/+milestone/ocata-3 | 09:34 |
| acabot | we wont be able to deliver 12 BPs in 2 weeks ! | 09:35 |
| acabot | we should focus on "needs code review" BP ! | 09:35 |
| dtardivel | +1 | 09:35 |
| acabot | I will move the others to the next release | 09:36 |
| acabot | does any one can update the status of his/her BPs ? set as started if it is | 09:36 |
| acabot | I will move all not started or unknown state BPs to ocata-rc today | 09:37 |
| Yumeng | i have just started https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/watcher-api-validation | 09:37 |
| Yumeng | but also pls move it to ocata-rc | 09:38 |
| acabot | Yumeng : do you plan to write a spec for it ? | 09:38 |
| acabot | Yumeng : you can use the one from keystone https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95957/14/specs/juno/keystone-api-validation.rst | 09:39 |
| Yumeng | i am doing with the code about initial implementation of the validator framework | 09:39 |
| Yumeng | can i just submit a rough implementaion first ? | 09:40 |
| acabot | Yumeng : sure you can | 09:40 |
| Yumeng | and see what's your suggestions | 09:40 |
| Yumeng | ok, thx | 09:40 |
| vincentfrancoise | Yumeng: Can you explain to me/us how you want to do it? | 09:40 |
| Yumeng | i was following this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86483/ | 09:41 |
| Yumeng | but keep update with the new code in keystone | 09:41 |
| vincentfrancoise | Yumeng: the idea was to use jsonschema if I remember correctly | 09:42 |
| Yumeng | yes, i will use jsonschema | 09:42 |
| vincentfrancoise | Yumeng: ok | 09:43 |
| vincentfrancoise | Yumeng: if you need help or you are not sure, please do ping me ;) | 09:43 |
| acabot | #action acabot move all unstarted BPs to ocata-rc1 | 09:44 |
| Yumeng | vincentfrancoise: thx | 09:44 |
| acabot | #topic Open discussions | 09:44 |
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| acabot | 15 mins left for open discussions | 09:44 |
| hidekazu | acabot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1640105 was fixed actually. | 09:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1640105 in watcher "Change hardware.cpu_util to compute.node.cpu.percent in workload_stabilization" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Hidekazu Nakamura (nakamura-h) | 09:45 |
| acabot | Yumeng : do you know the priority on your side for cluster-energy-saving ? | 09:45 |
| Yumeng | i don't know | 09:45 |
| acabot | hidekazu : ok this is because you didn't mention Closes-Bug in your commit msg | 09:46 |
| acabot | I will update | 09:46 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: I did it ;) | 09:46 |
| hidekazu | acabot: yes, sorry. | 09:46 |
| acabot | anyone has submitted a new BP during holidays ? | 09:47 |
| acabot | I could have missed it | 09:47 |
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| acabot | I will create Pike cycle in launchpad soon and start adding next BPs | 09:48 |
| Yumeng | acabot: can we have the priority of cluster-energy-saving as "high" ? | 09:48 |
| acabot | Yumeng : I can set it as high but it will be in the Pike cycle | 09:49 |
| Yumeng | aha~ that's ok | 09:49 |
| acabot | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/ocata | 09:49 |
| Yumeng | thx | 09:50 |
| acabot | we still have 3 BPs with high priority that needs to be implemented | 09:50 |
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| acabot | any other topic to discuss ? | 09:51 |
| acabot | so thank you all | 09:52 |
| acabot | see you next week | 09:52 |
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| acabot | #endmeeting | 09:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 4 09:52:36 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-01-04-09.00.html | 09:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-01-04-09.00.txt | 09:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-01-04-09.00.log.html | 09:52 |
| vincentfrancoise | bye | 09:52 |
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| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 4 13:00:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:00 |
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| alex_xu | who is here today? | 13:00 |
| Kevin_Zheng | o/ | 13:00 |
| cdent | o/ | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | let us wait one more minute | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | i'm not sure all the people back from holiday yet | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | so.... | 13:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | #topic open | 13:02 |
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| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393205/ | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | the servers filter spec merged \o/ | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open++branch:master+topic:bp/consistent-query-parameters-validation | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | the base part is close i guess | 13:03 |
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| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/add-whitelist-for-server-list-filter-sort-parameters | 13:03 |
| Kevin_Zheng | I found some typo in the spec when I coding though | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | Kevin_Zheng is working on the servers list query parameters | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | Kevin_Zheng: which one? | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | Kevin_Zheng: oops, you mean the spec, we can fix it quickly | 13:04 |
| Kevin_Zheng | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415115/ | 13:04 |
| Kevin_Zheng | yeah | 13:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that looks like good fixes to me | 13:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | all_tenants missing its s was the nasty one I guess | 13:06 |
| Kevin_Zheng | haha yes | 13:06 |
| alex_xu | For filters, return 400 when joined-table and internal attributes specified, I didn't find a good implementation | 13:06 |
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| alex_xu | Is it ok we only return 400 for sort with joined-table and internal attributes? For filters, we just ignore all the extra filters, that also matches the current filters behaviour | 13:07 |
| alex_xu | Probably I just want to remove the 'filters' from this line https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393205/21/specs/ocata/approved/add-whitelist-for-server-list-filter-sort-parameters.rst@45 | 13:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | hmm, maybe | 13:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | its a shame to go from 500 error to silent failure | 13:09 |
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| alex_xu | actually we ignore extra filters also | 13:11 |
| alex_xu | only not ignore few of them | 13:11 |
| alex_xu | But we can have a try the implement it, I have a idea, then we take a look at whether we want to put that in the code | 13:12 |
| alex_xu | it will pretty similar to sort implementation https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415142/11/nova/api/validation/parameter_types.py | 13:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, seems worth a try | 13:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | I mean we might decide its better not to bother, but I would like to try | 13:14 |
| alex_xu | ok, cool | 13:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | longer term, we add a microversion and they are all 400 I guess | 13:15 |
| alex_xu | Kevin_Zheng: later I will talk to you the idea with chinese :) | 13:15 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yea | 13:15 |
| Kevin_Zheng | yeah | 13:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | I guess if we can get closer to that, cool, if not, then we know how to fix it later | 13:16 |
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| alex_xu | ok | 13:16 |
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| alex_xu | so...we only this one priority task. and we are cool now | 13:17 |
| alex_xu | anything more people want to talk about? | 13:17 |
| alex_xu | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-priorities-tracking | 13:18 |
| sdague | o/ | 13:18 |
| alex_xu | ^ we have few non-priority api changes, I also put them in the etherpad, people can track it | 13:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | awesome, thats my usual question answered already | 13:18 |
| alex_xu | sdague: anything more in your mind, we are close to the end of meeting :) | 13:19 |
| sdague | nope, I'm fine, just saying I was around, I can start reviewing code before too long | 13:19 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/386555 | 13:20 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: sdague in the priority task, we also mention ^ that | 13:20 |
| alex_xu | but except review, i guess there isn't any more we can do for it, right? | 13:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, if we could all be +1 on that before the PTG, so we can talk about an implementation plan at the PTG, that would be awesome | 13:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | or ideally have a nova spec to agree before the PTG I guess | 13:21 |
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| alex_xu | ok, try to review it more | 13:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent has some interesting questions on that one about instance capabilities, not sure I understand his concern yet | 13:23 |
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| cdent | ah, that | 13:23 |
| cdent | my main concern is that capabilities should be on types, not instances | 13:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | I guess its GET /volume/{volume_id}/capabilities vs adding caps into GET /volume/{volume_id} ? | 13:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: its on both right now | 13:24 |
| cdent | right, and I think that's wrong | 13:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | basically because the type is not a type, its more a template | 13:24 |
| cdent | if an instance of thing has special capabilities, those things should be represented _within_ the resource's representation | 13:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | flavor + image gives you something thats a combination of the two | 13:24 |
| cdent | as they are specific to it | 13:24 |
| cdent | a capability ought to be a generic thing | 13:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | so GET /volume/{volume_id}/capabilities vs adding caps into GET /volume/{volume_id} ? | 13:25 |
| cdent | I also worry that we are thinking about capabilities with too much of an eye to existing situations in nova and cinder, rather than a more general thing. Obviously those things need to meet somewhere in the middle (not be just general) but I think we can consider the general case a bit more. | 13:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | its not data we return today, basically something missing in the representation | 13:26 |
| cdent | yeah | 13:26 |
| cdent | /capabilities/volume is a fairly static thing (but deployment specific) | 13:26 |
| cdent | whereas /volume/{volument_id} _has_ capabilities | 13:27 |
| cdent | that are dependent on "stuff" | 13:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | so to be specific, the example is "can I do a volume backup?" | 13:28 |
| sdague | it feels like from a user perspective though the question the user is going to ask is "can I do X to this thing in front of me" | 13:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | some clouds don't do that, some volume types don't do that, and some volumes land somewhere thats not possible | 13:28 |
| cdent | for any volumen, we answer that question under /capabilities | 13:28 |
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| cdent | for an existing volume, we ask the volume | 13:29 |
| cdent | (goodness my typing is poor) | 13:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, I think can any volume in this cloud do action X? can any volume of this type do action X? can my volume uuid-5 do action X? | 13:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | all seems the same question to me | 13:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | as sdague said, really just thinking about the question the API user is trying to answer (it includes policy and ability of the system) | 13:30 |
| * cdent nods | 13:30 | |
| johnthetubaguy | most of the discussion seemed to be around how to represent the actions | 13:31 |
| cdent | If the question is "can X do this thing" why should I ask something else, other than X, that question? | 13:31 |
| sdague | and, at least on the nova side, potentially the hypervisor type & version the instance landed on, so cant' just be flavor | 13:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | because you want to know what type to pick if you want to do X? | 13:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | I want to do a snapshot, I can't use the ironic only cloud, and I can't use that ironic flavor over there | 13:32 |
| cdent | I think you mean "Y" because "X" is a thing I already have | 13:32 |
| cdent | that's the two different questions: | 13:32 |
| cdent | when I use this cloud can I do activity A | 13:32 |
| cdent | when I use this entity can I do activity A | 13:32 |
| cdent | on the latter question, why shouldn't we ask the entity? | 13:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | for me thats a scope, there are three scopes | 13:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | we are proposing you do ask the entity, I believe | 13:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, ish | 13:33 |
| cdent | the spec proposes a new url | 13:33 |
| cdent | and my concern is adding yet more urls | 13:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | so there is an implementation detail | 13:33 |
| cdent | instead of having more useful representations | 13:33 |
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| johnthetubaguy | to find the capabilitiy, we need to make an RPC call to the compute node, so including it by default is really expense | 13:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | I suspect we missed that bit | 13:34 |
| cdent | _that_ is an implementation detail of Nova, thus my point above about meeting in the middle between general correctness, and needing to deal with nova/cinder implementation concerns | 13:34 |
| cdent | obviously we have to be concerned about the cost of these things to nova etc, but we can also be aware of how they can inform different/better implementations in the future | 13:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | GET /volume/{volume_id}?include_capabilties=True | 13:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | would that be better? | 13:36 |
| cdent | If the reason for have /foo/{id}/capabilities is a performance optimization, we should say so. | 13:36 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cdent: totally agree, thats missing in the spec right now, just adding that comment | 13:37 |
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| cdent | given a choice between a query param and a sub resource I'd tend to go for subresource simply because it looks prettier :) | 13:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | frankly I forgot about that (again) till 10 mins ago | 13:37 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cdent: yeah, I am with you | 13:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, thanks cdent, that makes good sense to me now | 13:38 |
| cdent | When I come back around to that review, I'll try to a) make my concerns more clear b) make it clear my concerns are not blocking, more for highlighting issues etc | 13:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | I guess we keep pushing on that spec | 13:38 |
| cdent | +1 | 13:39 |
| alex_xu | so...it turn to me say... anything more? | 13:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am all good, thanks for pushing on all that over the holidays | 13:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | getting there now | 13:40 |
| alex_xu | \o/ | 13:40 |
| alex_xu | thanks Kevin_Zheng will take care those patches | 13:40 |
| Kevin_Zheng | NP | 13:41 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | thanks for the review | 13:41 |
| alex_xu | so... we can close the meeting now | 13:41 |
| alex_xu | thanks all | 13:41 |
| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 13:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 4 13:41:28 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-01-04-13.00.html | 13:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-01-04-13.00.txt | 13:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-01-04-13.00.log.html | 13:41 |
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| ramishra | #startmeeting heat | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 4 15:00:12 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ramishra. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 15:00 |
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| ramishra | #topic roll call | 15:00 |
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| therve | Heya | 15:00 |
| ricolin | O/ | 15:00 |
| ramishra | happy new year all | 15:00 |
| zaneb | happy new year! | 15:01 |
| ricolin | happy new year! | 15:01 |
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| cwolferh | happy new year! | 15:01 |
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| ramishra | #topic adding items to agenda | 15:02 |
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| ramishra | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282017-01-04_1500_UTC.29 | 15:02 |
| ramishra | I've added a few topics, anything else we would like to discuss? | 15:03 |
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| therve | ramishra, Adding one about heat-agents | 15:03 |
| ramishra | therve: yep | 15:04 |
| ramishra | #topic gate failures | 15:05 |
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| ramishra | So the new year has not been good;) | 15:05 |
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| ramishra | failure rate is very high. | 15:05 |
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| therve | We had a barbican issue? | 15:05 |
| therve | Then that cfn weird stuff | 15:06 |
| ramishra | therve: yeah I fixed that | 15:06 |
| therve | Anything else identified? | 15:06 |
| ramishra | I noticed that we get slow nodes for the jobs. | 15:06 |
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| ramishra | and devstack build takes 30-40 mins | 15:06 |
| ramishra | from the total 80 mins for the job. | 15:06 |
| ramishra | I propose this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414365/ | 15:07 |
| ramishra | comment in that patch has the logstash query too. | 15:07 |
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| ramishra | To me it's mostly infra issue, tests with waitconditions fail mostly. | 15:08 |
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| therve | That sounds like a good workaround | 15:09 |
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| ramishra | One more issue I noticed today, raised a bug 1653990 | 15:10 |
| openstack | bug 1653990 in heat "test_asg_scale_up_max_size fails with KeyError" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1653990 | 15:10 |
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| ramishra | weird kind of failure. | 15:11 |
| therve | Some kind of race with metadata maybe? | 15:12 |
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| tiantian | ;) | 15:13 |
| ramishra | therve: it seems to me like the resource is in db but not in template. | 15:13 |
| ramishra | not looked in detail though. | 15:13 |
| ramishra | Any help to fix these is appreciated:) | 15:15 |
| therve | ramishra, Ah probably just some transaction boundaries not handled properly | 15:16 |
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| ramishra | therve: yeah, possibly had never seen this before. | 15:17 |
| ramishra | ok, lets move on | 15:17 |
| ramishra | else we would only be discussing gate issues;) | 15:17 |
| ramishra | #topic Status of Blueprints | 15:17 |
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| ramishra | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/ocata-3 | 15:18 |
| ramishra | can we identify the bps we plan to land in ocata? We don't have much time. | 15:19 |
| ramishra | None of them seem super important to me. | 15:19 |
| tiantian | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/custom-update-replace-for-failed-resources hope this can be landed in ocata | 15:20 |
| tiantian | acturally it's simple | 15:20 |
| ramishra | tiantian: ok | 15:21 |
| tiantian | one or two patches have been merged already | 15:21 |
| tiantian | thank you :) | 15:21 |
| ricolin | I think we should define the Priority of undefined one and I feel free to land till next release if no high Priority there | 15:22 |
| ramishra | it seems we would not be able to do much translation stuff. | 15:22 |
| ramishra | Not seen any patches. | 15:22 |
| ramishra | ok, I'll talk to the respective owners and change the target release accoridingly. | 15:23 |
| ramishra | moving on... | 15:24 |
| ramishra | #topic User survey question | 15:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "User survey question (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:24 | |
| ramishra | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/109511.html | 15:25 |
| therve | Yeah that's kind of tough | 15:25 |
| ramishra | can we've some good adoption questions? I've not seen many replies to my mail;) | 15:25 |
| zaneb | would be interesting to know if people are enabling convergence (phase 1) | 15:25 |
| zaneb | although that'd *more* interesting in 6 months or a year from now | 15:26 |
| zaneb | so I'm inclined to leave it out for now, because I can't think of anything we'd do differently at _this_ point based on the results | 15:27 |
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| ricolin | ramishra: how about put throughs here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-heat-user-survey | 15:27 |
| ramishra | ricolin: sure | 15:27 |
| ramishra | actually we need one good/relevant question:) | 15:27 |
| ricolin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-heat-user-survey | 15:28 |
| cwolferh | how often do you purge your stacks, with what parameters? :) | 15:28 |
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| ramishra | How do we decide the *one* question? | 15:29 |
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| ramishra | some projects are using voting/scoring system etc. We should not make it complicated;) | 15:30 |
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| zaneb | cwolferh: how many operators would even *know* the answer to that? ;) | 15:31 |
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| therve | ramishra, Some kind of rough estimate of stack size would be interesting | 15:32 |
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| therve | stack lifetime, too | 15:32 |
| ramishra | therve: yeah | 15:33 |
| ramishra | Someone would like to help finalize the question? we've few more days to decide. | 15:34 |
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| ricolin | ramishra: I can help:) | 15:35 |
| ramishra | ricolin: great:) | 15:35 |
| cwolferh | zaneb, i'll just go with "not enough" :) | 15:36 |
| ramishra | moving on.. | 15:37 |
| ricolin | Let's put some random questions list in etherpad, I will help to finalize it (probility by voting) | 15:38 |
| ramishra | #topic heat-agents repository | 15:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "heat-agents repository (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:38 | |
| zaneb | cwolferh: in an ideal world installers just do the Right Thing my default and 90% of operators never have to think about it. (I don't think we live in that world yet.) | 15:38 |
| zaneb | s/my/by/ | 15:38 |
| ramishra | therve: your topic:) | 15:38 |
| therve | Yes! | 15:38 |
| therve | So I started https://review.openstack.org/416244 | 15:38 |
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| therve | To create the new repository out of heat-templates | 15:39 |
| therve | https://github.com/therve/heat-agents is the source, I used some git filter-branch invocation to get the content | 15:39 |
| therve | Plus one commit to fix the folder moves | 15:39 |
| therve | Depending on when it's created I may have to catch up some commits manually later on | 15:40 |
| therve | Reviewing that repo can be helpful | 15:40 |
| therve | I hope we'll get infra feedback quickly afterwards | 15:40 |
| ramishra | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107306.html | 15:40 |
| ramishra | that's the ML thread on it. | 15:40 |
| therve | It'd be nice if someone contacted the rdo package maintainer | 15:40 |
| tiantian | good start:) | 15:41 |
| therve | That's pretty much it, unless someone has questions :) | 15:42 |
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| ramishra | therve: are we going to able to keep the history after the move? | 15:43 |
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| therve | ramishra, Yeah that's the point of that github repo | 15:43 |
| ramishra | ok great:) | 15:43 |
| zaneb | therve: did I just hear you volunteer to be the rdo package maintainer? | 15:44 |
| therve | ramishra, Actually, if you know how to improve the history that'd be great actually | 15:44 |
| ramishra | :) | 15:44 |
| therve | It contains empty files changes currently | 15:44 |
| therve | zaneb, Seems like twisting my word quite heavily :) | 15:44 |
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| zaneb | therve: is it working? ;) | 15:45 |
| therve | I don't think so | 15:46 |
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| zaneb | dang | 15:46 |
| ricolin | therve: will `upstream: ` change after? | 15:46 |
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| zaneb | therve: I think stevebaker is the current maintainer for that | 15:47 |
| therve | ricolin, It doesn't need to, from what I understand | 15:47 |
| ramishra | I think someone is already maintaining the rdo packages(python-heat-agent*) as per stevebaker in that ML thread | 15:47 |
| therve | ricolin, It's only used for initial import if we don't set that other keyword | 15:47 |
| ricolin | therve: Okey, thx | 15:47 |
| therve | hguemar and apevec seem to make the uploads | 15:47 |
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| ramishra | therve: anything else you want to add? | 15:49 |
| therve | Nope | 15:49 |
| ramishra | #topic open discussion | 15:50 |
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| therve | Should we try to write down some PTG schedule? | 15:51 |
| ramishra | therve: yeah, I forgot that completely. Thanks for reminding. | 15:51 |
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| ramishra | Would be it design session like the earlier summits or some concrete use cases that we can work on there? | 15:52 |
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| ricolin | Will be great to strong cross project discussion | 15:54 |
| ramishra | I think some teams are doing both. | 15:54 |
| ramishra | Will create an etherpad and let's capture ideas first. | 15:55 |
| zaneb | therve: if you run "git rebase 40e6c0874dc3877666a92c706079e7b74cc67601" on the heat-agents repo it'll delete all the merge commits | 15:55 |
| * zaneb discovered that just now | 15:55 | |
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| therve | ramishra, I was thinking a bit of both? I'd like to do some real implementation if we can | 15:55 |
| therve | zaneb, Does that remove commits with no files? | 15:55 |
| * zaneb looks | 15:56 | |
| therve | zaneb, Looks like a winner, thanks :) | 15:57 |
| zaneb | therve: gonna say yes. I don't see any commits left with no files, except the first one, 40e6c0874dc3877666a92c706079e7b74cc67601, "Added .gitreview" | 15:57 |
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| zaneb | therve: speaking of which, we need to add a .gitreview :) | 15:57 |
| therve | zaneb, It's there? | 15:58 |
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| zaneb | therve: oh, you added it in the last commit. great :) | 15:58 |
| zaneb | there's probably a way to delete that first empty commit, but not sure what it is | 15:59 |
| therve | ramishra, end meeting! | 15:59 |
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| ramishra | yep | 15:59 |
| zaneb | btw +1 on "a bit of both" for the PTG | 15:59 |
| therve | zaneb, Thanks that look much nicer | 15:59 |
| ramishra | thanks all for joining | 16:00 |
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| ramishra | #endmeeting heat | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 4 16:00:15 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2017/heat.2017-01-04-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2017/heat.2017-01-04-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
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| inc0 | #startmeeting kolla | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 4 16:01:49 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is inc0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:01 |
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| inc0 | #topic rollcall - w00t for kolla | 16:02 |
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| duonghq | o/ | 16:02 |
| srwilkers | o/ | 16:02 |
| egonzalez90 | woot o/ | 16:02 |
| jascott1 | woot | 16:02 |
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| qwang | o/ | 16:02 |
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| Jeffrey4l | \0/ | 16:02 |
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| lrensing | o/ | 16:03 |
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| pbourke | w00t | 16:03 |
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| britthouser | 0/ | 16:04 |
| inc0 | #topic agenda | 16:04 |
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| inc0 | * Roll-call | 16:04 |
| inc0 | * Announcements | 16:04 |
| inc0 | * Documentation | 16:04 |
| inc0 | * Brainstorming PTG topics (we have 2 days of PTG space) timebox [30 minutes] | 16:04 |
| inc0 | * Open Discussion | 16:04 |
| sdake | o/ | 16:04 |
| inc0 | it's going to be lightweight meeting | 16:05 |
| inc0 | :) | 16:05 |
| inc0 | #topic Announcements | 16:05 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, i added kolla-ansible dependecy ;) | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:05 | |
| sdake | note I have to leave in about 20 mins :) | 16:05 |
| inc0 | happy new year everyone! | 16:05 |
| inc0 | any other announcements?:) | 16:05 |
| inc0 | guess not | 16:06 |
| portdirect | inc0 returned from the wilderness? | 16:06 |
| inc0 | no, arrived to one | 16:06 |
| portdirect | lol | 16:07 |
| inc0 | #topic Documentation | 16:07 |
| vhosakot | lol | 16:07 |
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| inc0 | Sayantani is not here, she's out sick | 16:07 |
| inc0 | so we might need to move this one once more | 16:07 |
| srwilkers | she's been doing solid work trying to tidy up the docs | 16:07 |
| srwilkers | yeah, we should move this one more week. next week should be the last time we move it though. its something we should get to a solid place on because we have quite a few doc fixes sitting in the review queue iirc | 16:08 |
| pbourke | inc0: can we be more specific on which aspect of docs we're discussing? | 16:08 |
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| inc0 | pbourke, person who set this up is sick:( so we need to move the topic | 16:08 |
| sdake | portdirect oregon is sort of wild - much like arizona :) | 16:08 |
| pbourke | inc0: roger | 16:09 |
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| srwilkers | hey sayantan_ | 16:09 |
| sayantan_ | Hey | 16:10 |
| inc0 | do you feel well enough to have docs discussion? | 16:10 |
| inc0 | sayantan_, | 16:10 |
| sayantan_ | Yes sure | 16:10 |
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| inc0 | go ahead then, you're up:) | 16:10 |
| sayantan_ | So, I wanted to discuss if we should have separate documents for the operator and developer workflow | 16:11 |
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| portdirect | which sub-project? | 16:11 |
| portdirect | or kolla-*? | 16:11 |
| srwilkers | portdirect, for example: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404993/ | 16:11 |
| sayantan_ | Kolla-* | 16:11 |
| sayantan_ | yes | 16:12 |
| sayantan_ | this would mean a lot of duplication which will get difficult to maintain. | 16:12 |
| sayantan_ | To address the duplication, we can have different rst files for the common sections of the documents and include them in the other docs. | 16:12 |
| sdake | portdirect the correct terminology is deliverable :) | 16:12 |
| Jeffrey4l | sayantan_, i think we need separate doc for different kolla-* project. | 16:12 |
| sayantan_ | Do we need to separate it by OS as well | 16:13 |
| sdake | sayantan_ so there are three things here - kolla kolla-ansible, and kolla-kubernetes | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l | put the doc into its owner project. rather put all doc into kolla project. | 16:13 |
| sayantan_ | as in ubuntu centos etc? | 16:13 |
| sdake | sayantan_ i think its best to focus on kolla-ansible documentation since its in teh worst shape | 16:13 |
| sayantan_ | Jeffrey will do that | 16:13 |
| srwilkers | Jeffrey4l, i think the point of discussion is operator vs dev workflow in docs, not so much where the docs are housed | 16:13 |
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| Jeffrey4l | sdake, inc0 srwilkers will we have operator doc? | 16:14 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l i think that is what sayantan_ is working on iiuc - a document for operators | 16:14 |
| Jeffrey4l | sayantan_, it is better to have different OS part. | 16:14 |
| sdake | sayantan_ maybe I am confused on who is doing what :) | 16:14 |
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| pbourke | sayantan_: my vote would be to keep operator and developer docs separate | 16:14 |
| Jeffrey4l | oops. i thought we are talking about dev doc :( | 16:14 |
| srwilkers | after looking at the docs, i think it's best to streamline as much as we can. a decent amount of the workflow is similar at this point. instead of maintaining two distinct doc sets, i think we should maintain one set and make detailed notes in that workflow where the two scenarios diverge | 16:15 |
| sayantan_ | So, my point was, in order to do the separation, there will be certain parts common in both the docs. To minimize effort of maintenance, we will need to have different rst files for the common portions of these documents | 16:15 |
| srwilkers | this doesnt seem to happen all that often currently | 16:15 |
| pbourke | sayantan_: with an emphasis on operator | 16:15 |
| sdake | srwilkers what you described is what we have today | 16:15 |
| pbourke | do we even need developer docs | 16:15 |
| srwilkers | sdake, correct. but see the review i linked. thats the point im discussing | 16:15 |
| srwilkers | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404993/ just incase | 16:15 |
| sayantan_ | sdake how you had suggested | 16:15 |
| inc0 | so how about going back | 16:15 |
| portdirect | pbourke: yes - these ar hyper important | 16:15 |
| inc0 | and try to remove this "operator" and "dev" workstreams? | 16:16 |
| sayantan_ | trove has it that way Trove has it that way Please check https://github.com/openstack/trove/tree/master/install-guide/source for reference | 16:16 |
| inc0 | I mean, it's really strange to have it | 16:16 |
| pbourke | they are essentially the same thing | 16:16 |
| inc0 | yeah, issue is versioning with pbr afair | 16:16 |
| sdake | sayantan_ will you be at the ptg? | 16:16 |
| inc0 | git clone - not working, pip - working | 16:16 |
| sdake | sayantan_ we have made about 10 outlines of documentation in the past | 16:16 |
| sdake | maybe 5-8 :) | 16:16 |
| sdake | but a bunch | 16:16 |
| sayantan_ | No, I will not be able to attend it unfortunately | 16:16 |
| sdake | and they never get done | 16:16 |
| pbourke | if pbr is making things difficult we should vote to drop it | 16:17 |
| srwilkers | problem is, they need to get done | 16:17 |
| sdake | each time we do an outline they get better ,however, the repo split has made it difficult | 16:17 |
| sdake | pbourke reno and pbr are tightly integrated IIUC | 16:17 |
| sdake | dhellmann would be able to validate my assumption | 16:17 |
| pbourke | pbr is a pos | 16:17 |
| sdake | pbourke so dropping pbr makes release notes an impossibility - I htink but not certain | 16:18 |
| portdirect | lets let sayantan_ outline their vision. | 16:18 |
| sdake | pbourke agree pbr is a pile :) | 16:18 |
| sdake | portdirect wfm :) | 16:18 |
| sdake | sayantan_ the reason for the pbr discussio nabove is because that is why we have the developer docs at all in kolla and kolla-ansible | 16:19 |
| sayantan_ | So are we going for both workflows in the same doc? | 16:19 |
| sdake | kolla-kubernetes has dev docs for a different reason | 16:19 |
| sayantan_ | oh | 16:19 |
| sdake | i think if your making new docs or improving the ones we have, for kolla and kolla-kubernetes we could drop the workflow and just handhold people through that process if they want to do devvelopment | 16:20 |
| sdake | rather kolla-ansible, not kolla-kubernetes | 16:20 |
| portdirect | yeah - the developer doc for k8s decribe setting up a non production ready reference cluster, a real cluster is out of scope for kolla-k8s | 16:20 |
| sayantan_ | okay | 16:20 |
| pbourke | even with pbr the differences for dev are minor, they could be described in a separate doc | 16:20 |
| sdake | sayantan_ my suggesetion would be to not try to tackle kolla-kubernetes for the moment | 16:20 |
| sayantan_ | sdake I plan the same | 16:21 |
| sayantan_ | Will work on the kolla-ansible docs first | 16:21 |
| sayantan_ | And are we deciding to divide it by OS? | 16:21 |
| sayantan_ | ubuntu centOS etc? | 16:21 |
| Jeffrey4l | pbourke, pbr is not a big issue. and the root cause is how to sync the tag name between kolla and kolla-ansible, not pbr. | 16:21 |
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| berendt | o/ | 16:22 |
| inc0 | sayantan_, with our playbook it's not any different really | 16:22 |
| portdirect | I think divion by os makes sense - as it can get really confising trying to follow a dock that covers both | 16:22 |
| Jeffrey4l | s/tag name/tag number | 16:22 |
| inc0 | ubuntu vs centos | 16:22 |
| pbourke | sayantan_: there is a feature used in guides on docs.openstack.org where they have docs generated for centos/ubuntu from the same sources | 16:22 |
| sdake | portdirect agree | 16:22 |
| pbourke | sayantan_: it would be great if we could use this functionality | 16:22 |
| sayantan_ | pbrouke | 16:22 |
| sdake | sayantan_ ya we dont know how to do that :) | 16:22 |
| sayantan_ | It can only be used in openstack.org docs | 16:22 |
| pbourke | ah | 16:23 |
| pbourke | :( ! | 16:23 |
| sayantan_ | I had a discussion with the docs team | 16:23 |
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| portdirect | (at least for host setup - if by the time the playbooks are run its the same then there is not point having a sperate one for that) | 16:23 |
| sayantan_ | It can be done on a project level | 16:23 |
| sayantan_ | check this one check https://github.com/openstack/trove/tree/master/install-guide/source | 16:23 |
| sayantan_ | The trove guys have done it on a project level by separating the common parts in separate rst files | 16:24 |
| sayantan_ | But this would mean a little more maintenance | 16:24 |
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| srwilkers | i dont see a problem with that maintenance. we should expect some associated with docs as the deliverables iterate anyway | 16:25 |
| inc0 | so my idea would be | 16:25 |
| sdake | ok - gotta jet - would like to attend more, but have to go | 16:25 |
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| sdake | bye folks :) | 16:25 |
| sdake | i'll read the logs later | 16:25 |
| sdake | (tonight) | 16:25 |
| inc0 | to get back and figure out *why* do we have 2 different installation processes | 16:25 |
| inc0 | if it's pbr, just try to fix pbr | 16:25 |
| sayantan_ | okay | 16:25 |
| inc0 | and try to squeeze this to one workstream | 16:25 |
| sayantan_ | that sounds good | 16:25 |
| sdake | inc0 there is a log on the ml in [kolla] explaining why that can't be done | 16:25 |
| sayantan_ | :) | 16:26 |
| inc0 | that would make docs much clearer | 16:26 |
| sdake | inc0 agree | 16:26 |
| sdake | gotta jet :) | 16:26 |
| inc0 | k thanks sdake | 16:26 |
| sayantan_ | Also, the openstack.org team wants to integrate kolla with the openstack.org docs | 16:26 |
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| inc0 | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/kolla/ <- any more than that? | 16:27 |
| sayantan_ | So, if we can get this up, we can have the kolla docs in the openstack.org docs, giving us more visibility | 16:27 |
| pbourke | I think that sounds great | 16:27 |
| portdirect | thats awesome! (as an outside i used to judge that as a lvel of a projects maturity) | 16:28 |
| portdirect | *outsider | 16:28 |
| inc0 | yeah, so guys, let's quickly think about this 2 workstreams | 16:28 |
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| pbourke | I find the guides on docs.openstack.org to be of good quality | 16:28 |
| SamYaple | o/ | 16:28 |
| sayantan_ | They want the doc team involved so that they can maintain it moving forward | 16:28 |
| berendt | i think docs team want to include kolla at http://docs.openstack.org/project-deploy-guide/newton/ | 16:28 |
| inc0 | SamYaple, good that you're here, might actually help | 16:28 |
| SamYaple | /leave | 16:28 |
| inc0 | why do we have two workstreams again? | 16:28 |
| SamYaple | i need to read scrollback | 16:29 |
| inc0 | is this only because of pbr incorrectly tagging images if installed from git | 16:29 |
| inc0 | ? | 16:29 |
| inc0 | SamYaple, in short, dev installation guide and ops installation guide...why? | 16:29 |
| sayantan_ | berendt that's how they want it. You are right | 16:29 |
| SamYaple | inc0: i said no to that | 16:29 |
| SamYaple | i disagreed iwth it | 16:29 |
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| inc0 | I disagree with it too, just trying to figure out why do we even consider it | 16:30 |
| sayantan_ | Yes, this discussion stems from SamYaple 's concern | 16:30 |
| inc0 | and only thing that comes to mind is pbr | 16:30 |
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| SamYaple | the reasoning i got was "well merge them later" but i thought that was bad reasoning | 16:30 |
| SamYaple | we never do things later! | 16:30 |
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| sayantan_ | If it only pbr, let us fix it and have one doc | 16:30 |
| sayantan_ | It will be better if we do not complicate it by having more docs to maintain | 16:31 |
| portdirect | +1, lets fix a problem rather than create new ones to work round therm | 16:31 |
| sayantan_ | Will take up the pbr issue and fix it | 16:31 |
| Jeffrey4l | if it is caused by pbr, a note is enough. no need add a extra doc file. | 16:31 |
| SamYaple | duplicate docs* | 16:31 |
| SamYaple | more docs are fine | 16:32 |
| sayantan_ | yes | 16:32 |
| inc0 | I think this is ML thread sdake mentioned http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/103619.html | 16:32 |
| inc0 | and yeah, seems to be pbr issue | 16:33 |
| inc0 | let's fix our versioning and be done with it | 16:33 |
| inc0 | also another thing about docs | 16:33 |
| inc0 | I'd really encourage people to use bootstrap-servers more | 16:33 |
| SamYaple | idk about that | 16:34 |
| sayantan_ | I agree. It is much easier. Have added that in the new patch set I have been working on | 16:34 |
| inc0 | well it boils down installation of kolla to | 16:34 |
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| egonzalez90 | +1 | 16:34 |
| inc0 | pip install kolla-ansible kolla ansible | 16:34 |
| inc0 | configure globals.yml and build.conf | 16:35 |
| inc0 | kolla build -> kolla-ansible bootstrap-servers -> kolla-ansible deploy | 16:35 |
| pbourke | thats the dream | 16:35 |
| SamYaple | sure. should be ok for the docs. i just dont want the option bootstrap-servers role to become a requirement. otherwise kolla-ansible goes in a really different "touch host" direction | 16:36 |
| inc0 | SamYaple, requirement no | 16:36 |
| inc0 | it stays the same as now | 16:36 |
| berendt | SamYaple: | 16:36 |
| SamYaple | fair enough | 16:36 |
| berendt | +1 | 16:36 |
| inc0 | just to put more focus on it in docs | 16:36 |
| sayantan_ | +1 | 16:36 |
| inc0 | as it's really convenient | 16:36 |
| pbourke | if we can maintain stable images on dockerhub the build step goes away too | 16:36 |
| inc0 | thats the dream | 16:37 |
| pbourke | ha | 16:37 |
| inc0 | ok I think we can move on | 16:37 |
| portdirect | inc0: can we talk about that (docker hub images in a bit) | 16:37 |
| inc0 | sayantan_, I'll talk to you later today about what exactly pbr issue was | 16:37 |
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| inc0 | portdirect, we should ahve some time in open discussion | 16:38 |
| inc0 | or next meeting | 16:38 |
| inc0 | this is important | 16:38 |
| sayantan_ | sounds good : | 16:38 |
| inc0 | ok next topic is about PTG but sdake added it and went out and I really wanted to discuss ptg closer to actual ptg;) | 16:38 |
| inc0 | so | 16:38 |
| inc0 | #topic kolla-ansible dependency. ansible version? and third party packages. | 16:38 |
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| inc0 | Jeffrey4l, floor is yours | 16:38 |
| berendt | good news, i got accepted for the travel support program for the ptg | 16:38 |
| Jeffrey4l | thanks. | 16:39 |
| inc0 | yay Christian! | 16:39 |
| Jeffrey4l | two issue: | 16:39 |
| Jeffrey4l | should be bump ansible y stream now? | 16:39 |
| Jeffrey4l | because ansible 2.2 has a big change then ansible 2.0 | 16:39 |
| inc0 | hmm, how big for us? can we reasonably tackle it in Ocata? | 16:40 |
| Jeffrey4l | for example ansible 2.2 will raise some warning and ansible 2.0 not. | 16:40 |
| pbourke | where do you propose bumping this | 16:40 |
| inc0 | well if it's non-breaking warning, I'd say we can bump and post bug | 16:41 |
| Jeffrey4l | the reason is ansible 2.2 and ansible 2.0 is not compatible in some way. | 16:41 |
| Jeffrey4l | we got lots of warning when using ansible 2.2 | 16:42 |
| duonghq | we have some bug report about this issue | 16:42 |
| duonghq | the warning will become error around 2.4 | 16:42 |
| Jeffrey4l | and can not use some new feature ( like block ) in ansible 2.2 | 16:42 |
| Jeffrey4l | that's the issue. it is not big, but we need handle. | 16:42 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, yep. | 16:42 |
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| inc0 | so that's what I'd do: bump today, post bugs for any error | 16:43 |
| inc0 | (warning that is) | 16:43 |
| egonzalez90 | if we move to ansible 2.2 we cannot use prior versions | 16:43 |
| inc0 | ofc make sure everything works even with warnings | 16:43 |
| Jeffrey4l | egonzalez90, yep. | 16:43 |
| egonzalez90 | some module options in ansible2.2 does not work | 16:43 |
| Jeffrey4l | now kolla-ansible require ansible > 2. | 16:43 |
| kfox1111 | o/ | 16:43 |
| Jeffrey4l | egonzalez90, details? | 16:43 |
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| Jeffrey4l | another question is: whether and how to determine the requirments.txt in kolla-ansible. this is raised by https://review.openstack.org/412101 | 16:45 |
| Jeffrey4l | this patch ^^ | 16:45 |
| egonzalez90 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402691/ | 16:45 |
| Jeffrey4l | i added oslo.config into kolla-ansible requirements.txt. | 16:45 |
| egonzalez90 | this module does not work with ansible 2.1, they just removed it withour warning | 16:45 |
| Jeffrey4l | ( even though oslo.config is already in req.txt file, not it is historical issue ) | 16:45 |
| Jeffrey4l | should we or can we add more requirements ( especially python packages ) in kolla-ansible projects? | 16:46 |
| Jeffrey4l | SamYaple, need your opinion ;) | 16:46 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l, can - sure | 16:46 |
| inc0 | should - well, if we need them, then yes;) | 16:47 |
| Jeffrey4l | egonzalez90, yep that options will be removed in ansible 2.4 ( iirc ) | 16:47 |
| SamYaple | i just want to make people aware that modules are different than action_plugins | 16:47 |
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| SamYaple | action_plugin runs on deploy host (we can probably reasonably require requirements.txt) | 16:48 |
| SamYaple | modules run on the target host | 16:48 |
| SamYaple | oslo.config can't be a import on a target host | 16:48 |
| SamYaple | thats not the case here, but i dont want confusion down the road | 16:48 |
| Jeffrey4l | SamYaple, merge_config run in deployment node. not target node. | 16:48 |
| SamYaple | Jeffrey4l: i know. but everyone else should be aware of that too | 16:48 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l, right | 16:48 |
| SamYaple | this isnt open the flood gates and allow external libs in modules | 16:49 |
| inc0 | so if somethign is required on deploy node - goes to req.txt | 16:49 |
| SamYaple | this is 'require thigns on deploy host' | 16:49 |
| Jeffrey4l | SamYaple, yep. if we add some requirement which run on target host, we should re-consider that and better not to that. | 16:49 |
| inc0 | if something is required on target node - goes to docs and bootstap servers | 16:49 |
| SamYaple | inc0: nope | 16:49 |
| SamYaple | disagree | 16:49 |
| SamYaple | that makes bootstrap servers required | 16:49 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, kolla do not touch host. | 16:49 |
| SamYaple | and it adds packages to the host, something we dont do | 16:49 |
| inc0 | docs and bootstrap servers | 16:49 |
| SamYaple | nope | 16:49 |
| inc0 | that's what we do now | 16:50 |
| SamYaple | thats a fundemental shift in philosphy | 16:50 |
| Jeffrey4l | so if you add some requirement in target host, better use kolla_toolbox ;) | 16:50 |
| inc0 | you can always do it manually | 16:50 |
| SamYaple | i dont think you understand | 16:50 |
| inc0 | SamYaple, it was shifted when you were away | 16:50 |
| SamYaple | it was not... | 16:50 |
| inc0 | deploy play does not touch host | 16:50 |
| SamYaple | not this | 16:50 |
| inc0 | bootstap-servers mangles it as it will | 16:50 |
| SamYaple | bootstrap servers is optional | 16:51 |
| SamYaple | we just discussed this inc0 | 16:51 |
| inc0 | sure | 16:51 |
| inc0 | we add it to DOCS too | 16:51 |
| SamYaple | the only requirements on the host were docker and docker-py | 16:51 |
| inc0 | so people can install package manually on target node | 16:51 |
| inc0 | yeah | 16:51 |
| inc0 | what I'm saying is | 16:51 |
| inc0 | if we EVER have more reqs on target hosts | 16:51 |
| SamYaple | anythign past docker and docker-py certianly hasnt been discussed inc0 | 16:51 |
| inc0 | that's how we handle it | 16:51 |
| SamYaple | there was no shift | 16:51 |
| inc0 | point being, it's much more heavyweight than having deploy node req | 16:51 |
| inc0 | so let's stick to deploy node req as much as possible | 16:52 |
| SamYaple | period | 16:52 |
| SamYaple | unless the discussion is opened up | 16:52 |
| SamYaple | not as much as possible | 16:52 |
| inc0 | no, it's not | 16:52 |
| inc0 | anyway, nothing changes now | 16:52 |
| SamYaple | youre making decsions here that no one has agreed to inc0 | 16:52 |
| inc0 | I'm not making any decisions! | 16:53 |
| inc0 | anyway | 16:53 |
| inc0 | let's go back to topic | 16:53 |
| Jeffrey4l | yep. | 16:53 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l, anything left to say? | 16:53 |
| SamYaple | point being, this code runs on deploy host where we can reasonable require oslo_config | 16:53 |
| Jeffrey4l | if we need add some other patch in deploy host, re-consider use kolla_toolbox. | 16:53 |
| pbourke | Jeffrey4l: +1 | 16:53 |
| SamYaple | agreed Jeffrey4l | 16:53 |
| inc0 | yup | 16:54 |
| SamYaple | thats what its there for | 16:54 |
| Jeffrey4l | if it really can not work, it is acceptable and worth to talk to add requirements in target node. | 16:54 |
| Jeffrey4l | that what i want to say. ;) | 16:54 |
| inc0 | no argument here | 16:54 |
| SamYaple | a discussion would be needed to change direction, agreed | 16:54 |
| Jeffrey4l | ok. please move on | 16:54 |
| inc0 | #topic open discussion | 16:55 |
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| SamYaple | need to talk about the statid uid/gid for a moment | 16:55 |
| inc0 | portdirect, registry? | 16:55 |
| portdirect | can we push images to the hub a little bit more often? | 16:55 |
| inc0 | SamYaple, portdirect was first:) | 16:55 |
| inc0 | well, we don't have master build images at all | 16:55 |
| inc0 | today we push every stable release | 16:55 |
| portdirect | as we (kolla-k8s) are needing to work round bugs in release images: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416366/ | 16:55 |
| Jeffrey4l | we should not push master tag. it is easily to break. | 16:56 |
| portdirect | this is not master - but 3.0.2 i think | 16:56 |
| inc0 | we technically can create new tag, like develop | 16:56 |
| inc0 | and push as needed | 16:56 |
| kfox1111 | 3.0.2 or at least a freshened 3.0.1 | 16:56 |
| Jeffrey4l | we have this now http://tarballs.openstack.org/kolla/images/ | 16:56 |
| Jeffrey4l | master registry images. | 16:56 |
| kfox1111 | really its only one set of packages, kolla-toolbox that has a stale package. | 16:57 |
| Jeffrey4l | it is still WIP. but almost done. and it just works. | 16:57 |
| berendt | Jeffrey4l: cool | 16:57 |
| sbezverk | inc0: would be great to have a separate tag for master | 16:57 |
| inc0 | that for gates | 16:57 |
| Jeffrey4l | 3.0.2 will be release soon. ;) | 16:57 |
| inc0 | yeah, once 3.0.2 tags, we'll build and push it | 16:57 |
| sbezverk | in this case we can experiment with close to master state images | 16:57 |
| inc0 | we were discussing nightly builds and pushes too | 16:58 |
| kfox1111 | Jeffrey4l: whats "soon"? :) | 16:58 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, i am thinking to push tag registry tarball during release. | 16:58 |
| inc0 | if someone would like to donate server we can crack up cronjob for it;) | 16:58 |
| kfox1111 | like, before next wednesday? | 16:58 |
| Jeffrey4l | kfox1111, 3.0.2 will be release soon. | 16:58 |
| Jeffrey4l | ( time ... ) | 16:58 |
| portdirect | inc0: I can do that for this dev cycle | 16:58 |
| kfox1111 | like, can we get rid of the workaround before we cut the kolla-kubernetes release? | 16:58 |
| inc0 | kfox1111, Jeffrey4l I think we can say this week right? | 16:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | btw, when kolla-k8s will be release next tag ( 0.4 ) | 16:59 |
| inc0 | for 3.0.2 | 16:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, yep | 16:59 |
| kfox1111 | ok. cool. then we'll just wait for the end of the week, then pull the workaround out. | 16:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | the scheduler date we talked last is Jan 4 kfox1111 | 16:59 |
| kfox1111 | Jeffrey4l: slipped one week. | 16:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | roger. | 16:59 |
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| berendt | timeout... | 17:00 |
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| inc0 | yes, thank you all | 17:00 |
| inc0 | #endmeeting kolla | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 4 17:00:43 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-01-04-16.01.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-01-04-16.01.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-01-04-16.01.log.html | 17:00 |
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