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rosmaita | Courtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, alex_bash | 14:01 |
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rosmaita | #startmeeting glance | 14:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 15 14:01:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:01 |
sigmavirus | hey there | 14:01 |
stevelle | o/ | 14:01 |
rosmaita | sigmavirus: hang on a sec | 14:01 |
rosmaita | #topic roll call | 14:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:02 | |
rosmaita | :) | 14:02 |
dharinic | \o | 14:02 |
abhishekk | o/ | 14:02 |
sigmavirus | o/ | 14:02 |
stevelle | good afternoon | 14:02 |
sigmavirus | good evening, stevelle | 14:02 |
alex_bash | o/ | 14:02 |
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rosmaita | not a bad turnout | 14:03 |
rosmaita | ok, let's get started | 14:03 |
rosmaita | #topic updates | 14:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:03 | |
croelandt | \o | 14:04 |
rosmaita | first update is that thanks to the efforts of sigmavirus, our "release czar", O-2 is ready | 14:04 |
rosmaita | although, i must admit that there's not much in it | 14:04 |
rosmaita | (but we'll talk about that during priorities review) | 14:04 |
rosmaita | also, i just realized that although i informed the release team that sigmavirus is our go-to person for releases, i haven't announced it on the ML | 14:05 |
rosmaita | #action rosmaita send notice about Ian being release czar to ML | 14:05 |
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rosmaita | next up will be O-3, week of Jan 23 | 14:06 |
rosmaita | should be a lot of stuff in it, commmunity images for example | 14:06 |
rosmaita | ok, next update | 14:06 |
rosmaita | you've probably seen the message i sent to the ML nominating stevelle for Glance core | 14:07 |
rosmaita | the response has been overwhelmingly positive (+100 from Erno!) | 14:07 |
sigmavirus | rosmaita: damnit no one's supposed to know ;) | 14:07 |
rosmaita | so I'll add him to the list after the meeting and update the ML | 14:07 |
* sigmavirus 's interwebs are slow today | 14:07 | |
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rosmaita | sigmavirus: i need to get word of your powers out there so that you'll be accorded the respect you deserve! | 14:08 |
* sigmavirus deserves no respect | 14:08 | |
rosmaita | anyway, i'm sure we're all looking forward to working with stevelle, who's been doing great, detailed reviews | 14:08 |
stevelle | not me | 14:09 |
stevelle | he's always bothering me when I'm trying to work | 14:09 |
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rosmaita | what's going on here? i can't say anything nice about anyone without being corrected? | 14:09 |
rosmaita | :) | 14:09 |
stevelle | just following the pattern :) | 14:10 |
dharinic | Yes, very good reviews with valuable comments and suggestions. :) | 14:10 |
stevelle | thanks for the kind words folks | 14:10 |
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rosmaita | ok, next update | 14:10 |
rosmaita | i need feedback on this one | 14:10 |
rosmaita | the "holidays" are approaching, so there won't be a lot of people around the next few weeks | 14:11 |
rosmaita | so, i'm wondering what to do about the next 3 meetings | 14:11 |
rosmaita | Dec 22, Dec 29, Jan 5 | 14:11 |
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rosmaita | i don't want to cancel all 3 | 14:11 |
rosmaita | but i don't want to waste people's time, either | 14:11 |
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* croelandt won't be there on the 22nd, and on the 29th either | 14:12 | |
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* stevelle == croelandt | 14:12 | |
rosmaita | ok, how does this sound | 14:13 |
rosmaita | actually, i should give people more time to respond | 14:13 |
rosmaita | since i did ask a question | 14:13 |
* rosmaita sits on his hands | 14:13 | |
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rosmaita | ok, well, the silence is deafening | 14:14 |
croelandt | people are already on vacation. | 14:14 |
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rosmaita | here's my proposal: cancel Dec 29. I'll be here Dec 22 and Jan 5, but won't hold it against anyone if they don't show up | 14:15 |
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rosmaita | next thing ... i wonder whether it would be good to have an etherpad with people's availability, to assist people seeking reviews? nothing detailed, just something like "working 1/2 time Dec 22-Dec 29" something like that | 14:16 |
rosmaita | or | 14:16 |
rosmaita | is it sufficient to tell people to put an occasional shout into #openstack-glance and see who's there? | 14:17 |
croelandt | well, I think people will /quit IRC when on vacation | 14:17 |
croelandt | basically, if you're on IRC, you're probably available | 14:17 |
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rosmaita | ok, so in the email announcing meeting cancellation for Dec 29, i will remind people that reviewers may be on holiday, so things will be a bit slow, please be patient | 14:19 |
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rosmaita | #action rosmaita email to ML about dec 29 meeting and reviewer availablity over holidays | 14:19 |
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rosmaita | while i'm at it | 14:19 |
rosmaita | #action rosmaita email to ML about stevelle being confirmed core | 14:20 |
rosmaita | ok, that's it for updates ... i will pause 45 seconds for comments, concerns | 14:20 |
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rosmaita | hearing none, let's move along | 14:21 |
rosmaita | #topic priorities review | 14:21 |
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rosmaita | ok, first up is a reminder about priorities | 14:21 |
rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-December/108969.html | 14:22 |
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rosmaita | just about the process, to make sure we're all on the same page | 14:22 |
rosmaita | you probably saw it already; if not, please look it over | 14:22 |
rosmaita | ok, and now the actual review ... here's the link: | 14:22 |
rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-December/108704.html | 14:23 |
rosmaita | ok, #1 - database strategy for rolling upgrades | 14:23 |
rosmaita | now has a +2 courtesy of sigmavirus ... thank you sigmavirus | 14:23 |
rosmaita | it has a +1 after some really careful reviewing from stevelle | 14:24 |
rosmaita | so, i am inclined to request that stevelle use his new powers to change that to a +2 | 14:24 |
rosmaita | but, i am also open to objections that that's not quite kosher | 14:24 |
jokke_ | I'll be available for the Jan 5 and maybe dec 22 but defo not 29 | 14:25 |
jokke_ | sorry for answering late | 14:25 |
rosmaita | jokke_: ty | 14:25 |
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jokke_ | so ref the priorities | 14:26 |
rosmaita | any thoughts on the above? anyone? | 14:26 |
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jokke_ | I think it's the move to alembic one that has -1 from me towards the rolling upgrade dependency | 14:26 |
rosmaita | correct | 14:27 |
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rosmaita | the one we're talking about now has +1 from jokke_ saying he's not comfortable +2ing DB stuff | 14:27 |
rosmaita | which is quite acceptable | 14:27 |
jokke_ | so I'm leaning towards +2 for that if we decide to take the route proposed towards rolling upgrades, but I'm tempted to say that we don't want to move to alembic if we do not have clear need for it | 14:27 |
jokke_ | yes that was the other one | 14:28 |
rosmaita | jokke_: i respect that | 14:28 |
rosmaita | my feeling is that the database strategy proposal is sound, and we should go in that direction | 14:28 |
rosmaita | i would +2 myself except that i'm co-author :) | 14:28 |
jokke_ | cool ... and if that's the case, I'm more than happy to +1 the alembic proposal as well | 14:29 |
rosmaita | but we did explore a lot of options (me and hemanth_ (who's on vacation), plus alex_bash too), and i think this is really solid | 14:29 |
jokke_ | the bundle as whole sounds reasonable for me | 14:29 |
rosmaita | plus, we have the POC that alex_bash and hemanth_ put together | 14:29 |
jokke_ | so people, don't be too worried about my -1 there | 14:29 |
rosmaita | cool | 14:29 |
rosmaita | my only concern with stevelle being the second +2 is that me, hemanth_ , sigmavirus , and stevelle are all rackspace | 14:30 |
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rosmaita | but, other people have looked at it and left comments | 14:30 |
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sigmavirus | yeah | 14:31 |
sigmavirus | I don't personally like the look of that | 14:31 |
sigmavirus | then again, our core team is so inactive at this point :/ | 14:31 |
rosmaita | sigmavirus: exactly | 14:31 |
rosmaita | i was about to say, i have not had success getting other people to look | 14:31 |
jokke_ | rosmaita: that's fair ... I think the big question is, do we have others than me who is not comfy to +2 db stuff and rackspacers in our active core list anymore | 14:31 |
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rosmaita | my feeling is that the entire process, because the first patch is way different from the current patch, was done out in the open, with feedback from the wider openstack community | 14:32 |
rosmaita | so while i agree with sigmavirus that it looks a bit smelly, i think we are actually ok here | 14:32 |
rosmaita | (bad mixed metaphor) | 14:32 |
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rosmaita | and i really want to get alex_bash and hemanth_ unblocked | 14:33 |
jokke_ | so honestly I can change my +1 to +2 with a note that I trust the judgement of these guys but don't understand the technical details ... which does not look any better IMO :P | 14:33 |
rosmaita | jokke_: i agree | 14:33 |
jokke_ | so we can in my point of view just move forward with that as we don't have objections there either | 14:33 |
rosmaita | i think you are well within your rights not to +2 | 14:33 |
rosmaita | i mean, it's not like you didn't read & review the spec | 14:33 |
jokke_ | indeed | 14:33 |
rosmaita | and you also participated in teh virtual design session | 14:33 |
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rosmaita | stevelle: what do you think? | 14:34 |
rosmaita | (sorry to put you on the spot) | 14:34 |
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jokke_ | stevelle: you gotta earn your ranks form the first minutes :P | 14:34 |
sigmavirus | lol | 14:34 |
sigmavirus | jokke_: you are the most active non-Rackspace core I've seen lately (which is purely anecdotal data) | 14:35 |
stevelle | Unless we can identify someone who wants to put an additional review in, I can go over it again and see if I can go with the upgraded vote. | 14:35 |
jokke_ | stevelle: please do so | 14:36 |
rosmaita | stevelle: that sounds good to me | 14:36 |
jokke_ | not only to unblock Alex and Hemanth but I'd like to see this merging rather asap than alap :) | 14:36 |
rosmaita | there will be some movement on the core team in the next few weeks, so this kind of one-company thing shouldn't come up again | 14:36 |
rosmaita | ok, thanks for this discussion | 14:37 |
rosmaita | #action stevelle to re-review database strategy spec | 14:37 |
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rosmaita | #action rosmaita to come up with plan B (which will hopefully not be necessary) | 14:37 |
rosmaita | ok, back to the priorities | 14:38 |
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rosmaita | we've already talked about #2, basically if #1 is approved, #2 can follow | 14:38 |
rosmaita | moving to #3 | 14:38 |
rosmaita | i am happy to report that this one happened ... the community images spec update has merged | 14:39 |
rosmaita | since timothy is out of action for a while, dharinic has volunteered to change his patch so that the migration of existing images goes according to the spec update | 14:39 |
rosmaita | (which we all hope makes operators and end users happy!) | 14:40 |
* sigmavirus crosses fingers | 14:40 | |
rosmaita | so, this item will move from reviewing the spec to reviewing the actual CI code (as soon as dharinic gets a new patch up) | 14:40 |
rosmaita | moving to #4 | 14:41 |
dharinic | coming up. :) | 14:41 |
rosmaita | dharinic has been busy, this is hers too | 14:41 |
jokke_ | I'm happy that we found common ground ... feel free to blame me if it turns out to be nightmare | 14:41 |
rosmaita | the patch to fix the regression was merged! | 14:41 |
rosmaita | jokke_: i think we did the best we could ... at the very least, that extensive discussion shows that we didnt' take the migration issue lightly! | 14:42 |
jokke_ | ref regression, well done and I was happy to see tests there as well (did glance it through today even it had merged) | 14:43 |
rosmaita | the second part of #4 hasn't merged yet, i think there's a request on the patch to update the config option description text or something | 14:43 |
dharinic | Thanks jokke_ | 14:43 |
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rosmaita | also, i think stevelle was having second thoughts about the strategy | 14:44 |
dharinic | Yeah alex_bash suggested we do that. But I was wondering if that had to go with the same patch.. | 14:44 |
rosmaita | basically, the problem is that there are two options for the swift backend ... if you enable them both, horrible stuff happens | 14:44 |
rosmaita | so, dharinic 's second patch makes glance refuse to start with a suitable log message if both options are enabled | 14:44 |
jokke_ | rosmaita: but have we ever indicated by any means that we would support such? | 14:45 |
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stevelle | my second thoughts were dismissed by review, and I added the comment to that effect | 14:45 |
rosmaita | cool | 14:45 |
rosmaita | i am behind the times here | 14:45 |
rosmaita | jokke_: not exactly, but the problem pops up because of devstack | 14:45 |
rosmaita | it has one of the options enabled, and then if you turn on the other one, you eventually notice that bad stuff has happened | 14:46 |
rosmaita | jokke_: so the options are there, and we've never said previously that they shouldn't be used together | 14:47 |
jokke_ | ah | 14:47 |
rosmaita | plus, i believe you get into a kind of non-recoverable situation | 14:47 |
jokke_ | lovely | 14:47 |
rosmaita | so it's really better to put this in code not just in docs | 14:47 |
jokke_ | so yes I'd be pro not allowing them both, for now | 14:47 |
jokke_ | I think there has been quite a bit of requests for the multiple active backend stores and we might need to revisit it when implementing that | 14:48 |
rosmaita | ok, i think we should discuss multiple stores support at the PTG | 14:49 |
jokke_ | but on current state documenting "This is not smart and might break things horribly" is pretty good standing | 14:49 |
jokke_ | ++ | 14:49 |
rosmaita | ok, cool | 14:50 |
rosmaita | ok, we are running out of time ... abhishekk thanks for being patient, your request-id patch will become high priority | 14:51 |
abhishekk | no issues rosmaita | 14:51 |
rosmaita | and i don't think there was action on #6 or #7 | 14:51 |
rosmaita | actually, that's false | 14:51 |
rosmaita | #7 merged | 14:51 |
rosmaita | hooray! | 14:52 |
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rosmaita | ok, i'll send out a revised priority list tomorrow | 14:52 |
rosmaita | i want to wait and see what happens to the db strategy spec today | 14:52 |
bhagyashris | i am working on creating the patch for #6 | 14:53 |
rosmaita | bhagyashris: ty | 14:53 |
bhagyashris | will submit it asap. | 14:53 |
stevelle | I need to look at 5 then 6. have them queued up already though | 14:53 |
rosmaita | sounds good, i will move #6 up in the list, too | 14:53 |
rosmaita | #topic next operators survey | 14:53 |
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rosmaita | not much to say here, if you are interested, i have a draft up: | 14:54 |
rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-swift-multitenant-usre-survey | 14:54 |
rosmaita | why don't i say i'd like to send that out early next week | 14:54 |
jokke_ | rosmaita: I'd say wait for 3 more weeks | 14:55 |
jokke_ | next week will disappear into the X-mas void | 14:55 |
rosmaita | jokke_: you are probably right | 14:55 |
rosmaita | ok, then there's no rush on this one | 14:55 |
rosmaita | #topic question about config regeneration | 14:55 |
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rosmaita | jokke_: this is really a question for you | 14:55 |
jokke_ | shoot | 14:56 |
rosmaita | this is about adding 'ploop' (i just had to say that) | 14:56 |
rosmaita | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/341633/ | 14:56 |
rosmaita | so, the value for one of our config options changes | 14:56 |
rosmaita | well, my question is, we should probably regenerate the config files before each release | 14:57 |
rosmaita | just to be sure everything got in | 14:57 |
rosmaita | so do we need to also require regeneration with a patch like this? | 14:57 |
jokke_ | yup we do need to do that as I still haven't seen the web ones being available for anything else than master | 14:57 |
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jokke_ | I personally thing that anything that touches the config options should trigger regen | 14:58 |
rosmaita | i see, so it's a publication thing | 14:58 |
rosmaita | ok, not much time for open discussion | 14:58 |
jokke_ | but that seems to have been continuous battle between myself and some others | 14:58 |
rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:58 |
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jokke_ | Glance Tasks have horrible hardcoded dependencies | 14:58 |
rosmaita | who put up the Py3 functional test topic? | 14:58 |
jokke_ | just saying | 14:58 |
croelandt | rosmaita: me! | 14:59 |
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rosmaita | ok, tell us! | 14:59 |
croelandt | I'd love some review on this patch series https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392889 | 14:59 |
croelandt | they are small, simple patches to enable functional tests for Py3 | 14:59 |
jokke_ | like seriously horrible stuff in the parsing of the tasks triggering | 14:59 |
croelandt | it's not top priority, but if you've got some free time before going on vacation... :) | 14:59 |
rosmaita | croelandt: i will put that on the priority list, i think it's worth having people look it over | 15:00 |
rosmaita | (but at the bottom!) | 15:00 |
croelandt | Py2 will be deprecated in 2020 | 15:00 |
jokke_ | croelandt: that sounds good, I'll try to remember to have a look into them | 15:00 |
rosmaita | ok, we are impinging on the searchlight meeting | 15:00 |
croelandt | so we might have some time to review all of these patches :) | 15:00 |
stevelle | I like having these py3 topics on the priorities list | 15:00 |
rosmaita | yes, croelandt this is a good thing to do now | 15:00 |
jokke_ | thanks all! Sorry Searchlight guys! | 15:00 |
croelandt | stevelle: <3 | 15:00 |
rosmaita | thanks for taking it on | 15:00 |
TravT | no worries | 15:00 |
croelandt | been doing that for ~2years | 15:00 |
rosmaita | ok, bye everyone! | 15:01 |
croelandt | shall we wrap it up? | 15:01 |
croelandt | Bye! | 15:01 |
rosmaita | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 15 15:01:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-12-15-14.01.html | 15:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-12-15-14.01.txt | 15:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-12-15-14.01.log.html | 15:01 |
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TravT | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 15 15:01:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TravT. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:01 |
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TravT | anybody make it this week? | 15:01 |
* rosmaita has coffee emergency status | 15:02 | |
TravT | hehe | 15:02 |
TravT | looks like we need to give it a minute anyway... | 15:02 |
Kevin_Zheng | o/ | 15:02 |
TravT | o/ | 15:02 |
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TravT | well Kevin_Zheng looks like we have a small crowd today. | 15:03 |
Kevin_Zheng | ok | 15:03 |
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TravT | sjmc7 is out. he and his wife had a baby earlier this week | 15:04 |
Kevin_Zheng | ah | 15:04 |
TravT | agenda i had is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:04 |
TravT | looks like we'll be able to keep it nice and short. | 15:05 |
TravT | #topic ocata-2 today | 15:05 |
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TravT | I'll be applying the ocata-2 tag today | 15:05 |
Kevin_Zheng | hmm | 15:05 |
Kevin_Zheng | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393617 | 15:05 |
Kevin_Zheng | could we have this one? | 15:05 |
Kevin_Zheng | I can promise | 15:06 |
Kevin_Zheng | To add tests this cycle later | 15:06 |
TravT | i had started looking at it yesterday | 15:06 |
rosmaita | i'm not too comfortable with a promissory note for tests | 15:07 |
Kevin_Zheng | cool | 15:07 |
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TravT | Kevin_Zheng, do you need it in for Ocata 2? | 15:07 |
Kevin_Zheng | then I guess I can add tests tomorrow | 15:07 |
Kevin_Zheng | Not necessarily | 15:07 |
TravT | the mid milestones are mostly symbolic | 15:08 |
rosmaita | tell me about it! | 15:08 |
rosmaita | i think we got 2 bugfixes into O-2 for glance | 15:08 |
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TravT | rosmaita: how many big features do you have in flight for glance? | 15:09 |
TravT | Kevin_Zheng: if you get tests in, we can still get it landed in the next few days | 15:09 |
rosmaita | TravT: 3 big ones | 15:09 |
Kevin_Zheng | Another thing I have in mind is, my teammate is working on add doc for Zaqar client in openstack Manuel | 15:09 |
Kevin_Zheng | Or something | 15:10 |
Kevin_Zheng | He notice that searchlight doc is also missing | 15:10 |
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Kevin_Zheng | Can I land it this cycle? Do I need BP for that? | 15:10 |
TravT | docs for openstack manual? | 15:11 |
Kevin_Zheng | Yes | 15:11 |
TravT | i'd think you could land those at any time... | 15:11 |
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Kevin_Zheng | I think it is a link in to searchlight client doc | 15:11 |
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Kevin_Zheng | And we have to add something | 15:11 |
TravT | although, I'm actually going to plead some ignorance in I don't know what it takes to get docs into the openstack manual | 15:11 |
Kevin_Zheng | In all | 15:11 |
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Kevin_Zheng | I will ask him tomorrow | 15:12 |
TravT | okay, that sounds great! | 15:12 |
Kevin_Zheng | He said something about ci | 15:12 |
Kevin_Zheng | I didn't remember clearly | 15:12 |
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TravT | okay, well thanks for looking into that! | 15:13 |
Kevin_Zheng | I will add tests for plugin | 15:13 |
Kevin_Zheng | :) | 15:13 |
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TravT | :) | 15:13 |
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TravT | i know we were targeting the pipeline stuff for ocata 2. sjmc7 said it is really close and just a had a couple minor things left for lei-zh | 15:13 |
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TravT | but it looks like it won't quite make the cut-off either | 15:14 |
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TravT | hopefully still will in the next week or so. | 15:14 |
Kevin_Zheng | he is on vacation I think | 15:14 |
TravT | that would explain it... | 15:15 |
Kevin_Zheng | Saw some pic in wechat | 15:15 |
Kevin_Zheng | Chinese facebook | 15:15 |
TravT | ahh | 15:15 |
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TravT | well, hopefully he's having fun! | 15:15 |
TravT | #topic nova microversions | 15:16 |
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TravT | Kevin_Zheng: are you aware of any updates we need to make to searchlight for microversion changes in Ocata? | 15:16 |
Kevin_Zheng | Not much just one micro version landed and it is a deprecation | 15:17 |
TravT | okay, well, that's good. | 15:17 |
Kevin_Zheng | Of proxy API Iguess not affected | 15:17 |
Kevin_Zheng | I will double check tomorrow | 15:17 |
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Kevin_Zheng | Will raise a patch if need any bump | 15:17 |
TravT | thanks. we'll need to keep an eye on that through the end of the cycle in case any microversion changes come in | 15:18 |
TravT | hi yingjun | 15:18 |
yingjun | Hi | 15:18 |
TravT | FYI that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393617/ rosmaita veto'd landing it without more tests. | 15:19 |
yingjun | a bit late , thanks TravT | 15:19 |
TravT | but we'd still like to get it landed as soon as we can. | 15:19 |
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TravT | and lei-zh is out on vacation, so pipeline patch isn't quite ready. | 15:20 |
TravT | sjmc7 told me that it is very close... | 15:20 |
TravT | sjmc7 is out for next couple weeks. his wife just had their first baby. | 15:20 |
TravT | i think that summarizes what you missed | 15:20 |
TravT | #topic open discussion | 15:20 |
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TravT | one final note... | 15:21 |
TravT | Kevin_Zheng: yingjun: (lei-zh) if he was here. Do you guys want to hold meetings on December 22nd / 29th? | 15:21 |
TravT | I will be out on vacation. | 15:21 |
rosmaita | glance has cancelled dec 29 meeting | 15:22 |
rosmaita | just as a point of information | 15:22 |
Kevin_Zheng | I guess most of you guys will be on vacation | 15:22 |
TravT | rosmaita: isn't that due to the glance PTL being really lazy? | 15:22 |
Kevin_Zheng | LOL | 15:22 |
TravT | ;) | 15:22 |
rosmaita | yeah, i guess we can set a better example in searchlight | 15:23 |
rosmaita | let's have *2* meetings that week! | 15:23 |
TravT | yeah, glance should be our role model! | 15:23 |
* TravT feels let down by glance | 15:23 | |
Kevin_Zheng | Maybe I can hold 22nd | 15:23 |
TravT | :D | 15:24 |
rosmaita | TravT: feel free to do more glance stuff! there's lots of drama | 15:24 |
rosmaita | (as my daughter would say) | 15:24 |
Kevin_Zheng | If we have something to discuss that day | 15:24 |
yingjun | :) | 15:24 |
TravT | Kevin_Zheng: maybe if pipeline or your nova server group patch isn't landed you guys could hold a meeting... | 15:25 |
TravT | I could send out a ML message today cancelling the 29th. | 15:25 |
Kevin_Zheng | yeah ok | 15:25 |
TravT | And if you three decide to not hold one on the 22nd, you could send one out to the ML canceling it? | 15:26 |
TravT | lots of other teams have cancelled the next two weeks | 15:27 |
TravT | i know it is late for you guys | 15:27 |
TravT | so don't feel like you have to do it just to do it | 15:27 |
Kevin_Zheng | ok | 15:27 |
TravT | thanks! | 15:28 |
TravT | anything else, anybody? | 15:28 |
rosmaita | not from me, i am too lazy | 15:28 |
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TravT | feel free to continue on with that rosmaita | 15:28 |
TravT | :) | 15:28 |
rosmaita | ty | 15:29 |
rosmaita | :) | 15:29 |
TravT | okay, thank you everybody! | 15:29 |
rosmaita | bye! | 15:29 |
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Kevin_Zheng | bye | 15:29 |
TravT | #endmeeting | 15:30 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 15 15:30:01 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:30 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-12-15-15.01.html | 15:30 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-12-15-15.01.txt | 15:30 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-12-15-15.01.log.html | 15:30 |
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evrardjp | wooot | 15:49 |
cloudnull | o/ | 15:49 |
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evrardjp | julien-zte you have a problem with your bouncer | 15:57 |
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mhayden | #startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 15 16:00:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mhayden. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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mhayden | #topic Roll Call! | 16:00 |
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andymccr | o/ | 16:00 |
stevelle | o/ | 16:00 |
asettle | o/ | 16:00 |
evrardjp | o/ | 16:00 |
mhayden | the perfectionist in me is always happy when i hit it right at 16:00 ;) | 16:00 |
adreznec | o/ | 16:02 |
palendae | Hi | 16:02 |
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mhayden | thanks to the kind person who updated the agenda ;) | 16:02 |
jmccrory | o/ | 16:02 |
andymccr | i got you mhayden! | 16:03 |
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mhayden | unfortunately some of us rackspace folks are in another meeting right now, too :P | 16:04 |
mhayden | but let's get underway | 16:04 |
logan- | o/ | 16:04 |
mhayden | #topic Review action items from last week | 16:05 |
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mhayden | first up is -> review and backport https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408677/ (and review the backport!) | 16:05 |
andymccr | its merged | 16:05 |
andymccr | + backport! | 16:05 |
mhayden | hooray! | 16:05 |
mhayden | my favorite kind of action items | 16:05 |
mhayden | next was -> review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407607/ before release | 16:05 |
andymccr | reviewed and merged | 16:05 |
mhayden | hot dang | 16:06 |
mhayden | #topic Discussion Topics | 16:06 |
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mhayden | well this section appears to be empty | 16:06 |
andymccr | christmas time im guessing :) | 16:06 |
mhayden | it is holiday times :) | 16:06 |
mhayden | okay, moving right along | 16:06 |
mhayden | #topic Release planning & decisions | 16:06 |
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andymccr | yay! | 16:07 |
andymccr | ok | 16:07 |
andymccr | so | 16:07 |
andymccr | OpenStack-Ansible milestone 2 was released! | 16:07 |
odyssey4me | \o/ | 16:07 |
evrardjp | woot | 16:07 |
andymccr | newton 14.0.4 and mitaka 13.3.10 are ready but pending | 16:07 |
andymccr | the role SHA revert for master isn't passing at the moment | 16:07 |
andymccr | nor are the sha bumps for newton/mitaka so will need to look into those | 16:08 |
andymccr | but thats all really :) all good! | 16:08 |
palendae | andymccr: Ocata milestone 2? | 16:08 |
evrardjp | andymccr: I think mhayden spotted an issue with mysql version for gnocchi | 16:08 |
andymccr | palendae: yip | 16:08 |
evrardjp | so some ppl could have a look, that would be great! | 16:09 |
mhayden | yeah, i was confused on that mysql failure | 16:09 |
andymccr | Ocata milestone 2, its due by end of today, ours merged this morning so we're all in and good | 16:09 |
mhayden | haven't had a chance to peek | 16:09 |
evrardjp | neither do I mhayden :/ | 16:09 |
andymccr | yeah if anybody feels like looking into the failures for the sha bump on newton/mitaka or the ansible-role pin revert on master, would be awesome | 16:09 |
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andymccr | i'll try take a look tomorrow and fix that up :) | 16:10 |
mhayden | i did find something that we might want to get into the next release, though -> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1650035 | 16:10 |
evrardjp | else we just say on m2 until release. Ok I'm out. | 16:10 |
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mhayden | long story short, heat expects cinder's backup functionality to be turned on | 16:10 |
mhayden | if it isn't, you end up creating undeletable stacks! | 16:10 |
mhayden | IMMUTABLE STACKS | 16:10 |
mhayden | which sounds good at first | 16:11 |
evrardjp | that's cool | 16:11 |
evrardjp | it's a feature | 16:11 |
mhayden | but it's really not, in this case :) | 16:11 |
evrardjp | :D | 16:11 |
andymccr | well tl;dr lets fix mitaka/newton/master :P | 16:11 |
evrardjp | I thought you had to know heat DB in order to use it | 16:11 |
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mhayden | so if folks can ensure i didn't make a horrible error with those patches, i'd be much obliged | 16:11 |
evrardjp | marked for review, next? | 16:12 |
evrardjp | :D | 16:12 |
mhayden | #topic Blueprint work | 16:12 |
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mhayden | the security role blueprint is sooooo close to being finished | 16:13 |
odyssey4me | mhayden is it possible to turn off that feature in heat? If so a group_var could easily be crafted to do that. | 16:13 |
mhayden | odyssey4me: that's in my patches :) | 16:13 |
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mhayden | remaining security role items: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/openstack-ansible-security+status:open | 16:14 |
andymccr | nice! | 16:14 |
mhayden | a few bugs there | 16:14 |
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andymccr | almost there | 16:14 |
mhayden | i'll try to get it testing with the integrated role very soon | 16:14 |
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mhayden | any other blueprint updates? | 16:15 |
mhayden | the trusty cleanup is moving along well | 16:15 |
andymccr | yeah so | 16:15 |
andymccr | all patches should be in (except security role) | 16:15 |
mhayden | asettle: anything we can do to help with the ops guide work? | 16:15 |
andymccr | some are failing, i'll look at that today/tomorrow | 16:15 |
mhayden | (it's weird because i can see asettle in a VC call right now) | 16:15 |
mhayden | we'll see if she jumps in later | 16:16 |
andymccr | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:bp/trusty-removal | 16:16 |
evrardjp | how luchy | 16:16 |
evrardjp | lucky* | 16:16 |
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andymccr | also upgrade testing is basically done - there is no upgrade test for galera though - which we probably should have, and integrated build | 16:16 |
logan- | a working ceph-ansible integration is up at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409407/ -- i'll be taking the WIP off as soon as I have time to write up some basic docs/reno for it as a testing-only thing for now. but andymccr it should be possible to get an integrated build scenario job added for this right? | 16:16 |
asettle | mhayden: sorry man, check back in with me when I'm not answering questinos on what thing :P | 16:17 |
andymccr | logan-: what do you mean by scenario? like an additional test? | 16:17 |
odyssey4me | yeah, it is possible to add scenario's now | 16:17 |
jmccrory | andymccr no upgrade test between branches? i think there's an test for 10.0 to 10.1 | 16:17 |
odyssey4me | a sample is here: https://review.openstack.org/370638 | 16:17 |
andymccr | jmccrory: ahh ok that probably works | 16:17 |
logan- | correct we have scenario testing support in bootstrap-host, so that patch adds a scenario for ceph | 16:18 |
odyssey4me | awesome | 16:18 |
logan- | you pass the SCENARIO envvar to gate-check-commit i think | 16:18 |
odyssey4me | yep, andymccr you'll see that instrumented in project-config | 16:18 |
odyssey4me | it grabs the scenario name from the job name | 16:18 |
andymccr | odyssey4me: yeah ive seen them, im just makign sure the ask is to add it to the test infra | 16:19 |
odyssey4me | we can add a ceph scenario as experimental and give it a whirl | 16:19 |
logan- | yes i'd like to get it added to infra | 16:19 |
andymccr | i'll add that logan- | 16:19 |
logan- | thanks! | 16:19 |
andymccr | no problem | 16:19 |
andymccr | thanks for doing the work behind that1 | 16:19 |
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mhayden | okay, moving along | 16:21 |
mhayden | #topic Open Floow | 16:21 |
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mhayden | #undo | 16:21 |
openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic Open Floow | 16:21 |
mhayden | #topic Open Floor | 16:21 |
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andymccr | hahahaha | 16:21 |
mhayden | FLOOOOOOOOOW | 16:22 |
andymccr | subtle plug for openflow | 16:22 |
stevelle | super subtle | 16:22 |
evrardjp | dragonflow implements an openflow like thing | 16:22 |
evrardjp | reviews welcome :p | 16:23 |
palendae | Something I've been noticing lately - we've been a little lax on including release notes. I know I've forgotten them myself on a bunch of changes | 16:23 |
andymccr | ahh yeah | 16:23 |
andymccr | dragonflow is fixed now | 16:23 |
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evrardjp | I'll have a look andymccr | 16:23 |
andymccr | palendae: good point | 16:23 |
andymccr | ive had a couple where i -1'd for that, but would be good if we could be more consistent (where release notes are required) | 16:24 |
palendae | Mostly just a poke to remind us, when reviewing, to ask for them | 16:24 |
palendae | We did great when reno first appeared | 16:24 |
evrardjp | palendae: yes it's a good idea to poke | 16:24 |
evrardjp | I also forgot to call for a release note in master, so if we backport to newton without touching the patch we'll forget the release note :/ | 16:25 |
evrardjp | I mean we have to remember all the times, not only in stable branches | 16:25 |
palendae | Yeah | 16:25 |
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* cloudnull lobs a grenade | 16:25 | |
cloudnull | anyone have thoughts on using nspawn instead of general LXC? | 16:25 |
evrardjp | just when you think it's backport potential -> think release note! | 16:25 |
palendae | cloudnull: Whoa, you're not the person I'd think to suggest that :p | 16:26 |
evrardjp | cloudnull: I hated the networking model at first, lxc is so simple | 16:26 |
cloudnull | w/ us moving to only OS's w/ systemd, nspawn could be an option to remain platform agnostic . | 16:26 |
cloudnull | idk if it's totally possible. | 16:26 |
evrardjp | cloudnull: docker works too | 16:26 |
evrardjp | for that | 16:26 |
evrardjp | :p | 16:26 |
cloudnull | just was thinking about evolutionary ideas. | 16:26 |
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cloudnull | evrardjp: docker would not work because it can't support an init | 16:27 |
evrardjp | I don't think there is a problem suggesting it :D | 16:27 |
andymccr | cloudnull: if there is genuine benefit - would be a good point of interest for the PTG - if you're keen to write up an etherpad and some other stuff. | 16:27 |
cloudnull | ++ | 16:27 |
palendae | I have no thoughts other than it's worth a prototype | 16:27 |
cloudnull | was +/- curious | 16:27 |
evrardjp | well the networking models are really interesting in your prototype | 16:27 |
andymccr | thats really only like 2 months away - seems good timing wise :P | 16:28 |
evrardjp | and I'd be happy to have results | 16:28 |
evrardjp | it seems good | 16:28 |
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cloudnull | ok. was just curious if there were violent objections . | 16:29 |
evrardjp | not from me | 16:29 |
evrardjp | we should be open! | 16:29 |
andymccr | cloudnull: im a pacifist - if i dont like your idea i'll beaurocrat it to death - no violence. | 16:29 |
evrardjp | lol | 16:30 |
cloudnull | obviously no matter the solution we're going to have to provide upgrade paths for folks. | 16:30 |
odyssey4me | cloudnull I think that nspawn would be a great use case for abstracting out hypervisor. | 16:30 |
cloudnull | if that's lxc, lxd, other | 16:30 |
odyssey4me | out our use of a hypervisor I mean | 16:30 |
palendae | cloudnull: No objection, but since I don't know much about it I wouldn't mind seeing some sort of implementation | 16:30 |
andymccr | yeah of course, but i think its silly to not stay aware of new and potentially better tools/platforms etc. | 16:30 |
andymccr | yeah agree /w palendae | 16:30 |
cloudnull | ++ | 16:30 |
odyssey4me | although nspawn would put us into a position much like we are with LXC - it won't really move us forward | 16:31 |
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palendae | IMO a prototype to see what kinds of rough edges and advantages there are, then a spec would be good | 16:31 |
palendae | And that goes for any alternative | 16:31 |
cloudnull | IDK if nspawn is a good idea at this point, i know it was a terrible idea before but with recent systemd it doesn't seem to make me want to punch a baby. so there's that. | 16:31 |
odyssey4me | moving towards buying into LXD more wholesale brings us a lot of new features, whereas implementing nspawn brings us nothing but a lower cost footprint | 16:31 |
odyssey4me | well, that's as far as I saw when I last looked into it | 16:32 |
cloudnull | odyssey4me: that's true, i will say though that images in nspawn are really just a tarball of a chroot | 16:32 |
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odyssey4me | cloudnull yeah, so that's what I like about it - but then again LXC images are just a rootfs tarball too | 16:32 |
asettle | OMG IM BACK | 16:32 |
asettle | IM SORRY | 16:32 |
asettle | IM SO BAD | 16:32 |
asettle | mhayden: sorryyyy | 16:32 |
odyssey4me | so this is why it's not offensive, and probably a relatively easy implementation | 16:33 |
evrardjp | cloudnull: think also on the operators ease of use if possible | 16:33 |
odyssey4me | but moving to LXD brings us an API for managing containers and hosts - whereas nspawn is still pretty much a per host model much like LXC | 16:33 |
cloudnull | in looking at lxc and lxd images there's quite a bit of meta-data that has to go a long with them, where as in nspawn there's none. | 16:33 |
cloudnull | that is true | 16:33 |
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michaelgugino | lxd ftw | 16:34 |
odyssey4me | well, if you look at the metadata there's not much to it | 16:34 |
michaelgugino | lxd will boot pretty much any root tarball without extra instruction | 16:34 |
cloudnull | you're right there's not much, but it is >0 | 16:34 |
michaelgugino | don't have to create whacky profiles, etc | 16:34 |
evrardjp | what michaelgugino said is true :) | 16:34 |
palendae | nspawn is local management only, right? hence being mostly a side-grade? | 16:34 |
cloudnull | correct | 16:34 |
cloudnull | its local only | 16:34 |
cloudnull | like i said before, lobbing grenades. | 16:35 |
odyssey4me | if we were looking to cover small deployments then I'd say go with nspawn... but we're looking at production grade enterprise implementations... I think that LXD is a better fit for the long term | 16:35 |
cloudnull | I don't disagree at this point . | 16:36 |
odyssey4me | I would even suggest that we should perhaps consider dropping the 'optional' use of containers in the long term and buy into the model wholesale. | 16:36 |
michaelgugino | I completely agree with that | 16:36 |
palendae | I've been lxd-curious for a while, but just not taken the time to rewrite stuff to try it | 16:36 |
odyssey4me | at least for the integrated build | 16:36 |
palendae | odyssey4me: It would certainly make inventory easier | 16:36 |
stevelle | seems to me that lxd sounds like a better fit, but that effort is going so might as well ensure nspawn is properly disqualified by spiking it :) | 16:36 |
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evrardjp | oh I didn't know about machinectl pull-tar | 16:36 |
evrardjp | nice | 16:36 |
cloudnull | yea. its neat | 16:37 |
cloudnull | it can even pull raw | 16:38 |
cloudnull | which would allow for pulling a base image from a distro | 16:38 |
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stevelle | possible artifacty goodness too? | 16:38 |
cloudnull | but I've not really tried anything with it . was just poking at all the things | 16:38 |
odyssey4me | if we want to persue hypervisor abstraction - which I question the value of beyond it being cool to do - then we should possibly consider looking at the whole deployment model and try to abstract a bunch of things | 16:38 |
odyssey4me | it just seems like a lot of rework with very little value attach to it | 16:39 |
evrardjp | OMG systemd-nspawn really improved ... you can now have --network-veth or --network-interface=eth0 | 16:39 |
evrardjp | woot | 16:39 |
odyssey4me | but hey, if you're bored and have some time to spike it - go for it | 16:39 |
cloudnull | im going on vacation starting tomorrow | 16:39 |
evrardjp | holiday tomorrow! | 16:40 |
cloudnull | so looking at things I can do, besides brake my house :) | 16:40 |
odyssey4me | but if we start to merge things like that it bring us into a scary place where we're having to cater for so many options that no-one is using to our knowledge | 16:40 |
stevelle | gotta start with a plumbing project then quit halfway to work on nspawn | 16:40 |
cloudnull | stevelle: ++ | 16:40 |
cloudnull | :p | 16:40 |
palendae | stevelle, cloudnull: Context switching as anger management | 16:40 |
cloudnull | odyssey4me: agreeded. I don't want to break focus. | 16:41 |
odyssey4me | what might be neat is putting together an Ansible-based alternative to devstack based on nspawn :p | 16:41 |
evrardjp | stevelle: haha | 16:41 |
palendae | :o | 16:41 |
cloudnull | I think our project has maintained fantastic focus on large scale deployments and I'd rather not create a bunch of one off nonsense. | 16:41 |
evrardjp | odyssey4me: or you mean with an ansible alternative based alternative to devstack? | 16:41 |
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odyssey4me | lol evrardjp | 16:42 |
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stevelle | nicely done | 16:42 |
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odyssey4me | or write go-configure | 16:42 |
evrardjp | we've been talking about that | 16:42 |
evrardjp | I suggest a vote | 16:42 |
andymccr | now now :P | 16:42 |
evrardjp | lol | 16:42 |
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palendae | If someone wants to spike, go ahead. But then we'll see if it gets approved via review | 16:43 |
cloudnull | ++ | 16:43 |
palendae | So it gets a vote, but we're not voting on what someone chooses to do with their time | 16:43 |
evrardjp | I was... just kidding? Sorry :/ | 16:44 |
stevelle | I already voted for the half a plumbing project idea :P | 16:45 |
evrardjp | Anyway, if there is no other topic, I'm leaving. Thank you for the meeting! | 16:45 |
odyssey4me | cloudnull I would perhaps suggest looking into how LXD operates, and how we can implement a LXD image cluster back-end... I don't think it clusters itself. | 16:45 |
palendae | evrardjp: Didn't mean to call you out, just that a vote is good, but not now :) | 16:45 |
evrardjp | odyssey4me: I think it kinda work p2p mode | 16:46 |
andymccr | id like to see some investigation results for the PTG, that'd be awesome. and not just a "theoretically x y z" but spike work being completed - on any ideas that are genuinely serious | 16:46 |
palendae | ^ | 16:46 |
mhayden | note: about 13 minutes left in the mtg | 16:46 |
cloudnull | odyssey4me: will do | 16:46 |
odyssey4me | but yes, realistically I would actually suggest stepping away from the laptop for the holidays | 16:46 |
palendae | ^ | 16:46 |
andymccr | haha yes | 16:46 |
michaelgugino | each lxd host operates independently; you establish a trust between them for sharing images, etc | 16:46 |
palendae | Or doing not work :) | 16:46 |
palendae | Program something else | 16:46 |
odyssey4me | michaelgugino yeah, I'm thinking about how we would implement a clustered image store in the environment or as a service | 16:47 |
palendae | glance? ;) | 16:47 |
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michaelgugino | also, fyi, I finally got the fix for the ansible apache2_module merged; however they are leaving it in devel for this release because? Anyway, maybe it will be out in ansible 2.2.n+1 | 16:47 |
odyssey4me | ah nice | 16:48 |
michaelgugino | odyssey4me: you only need to upload the images to one lxd host, establish the trust, and the other hosts will copy over the images when needed | 16:48 |
odyssey4me | michaelgugino then 'when needed' is the issue | 16:48 |
odyssey4me | if that host goes offline, then you lose them | 16:48 |
michaelgugino | if we're talking about the control plane, they images will be cached locally once we boot them | 16:48 |
odyssey4me | ideally I'd like to build them, host them on a web server somewhere, then tell the LXD service to fetch them | 16:49 |
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palendae | odyssey4me: That webserver being inside the cluster? | 16:49 |
michaelgugino | lxd supports that | 16:49 |
palendae | Unless it's made HA you theoretically have hte same problem | 16:49 |
odyssey4me | we should ideally be able to stage them so that it doesn't only cache them when you build a container | 16:49 |
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stevelle | yupp | 16:50 |
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michaelgugino | https://www.stgraber.org/2016/03/30/lxd-2-0-image-management-512/ | 16:50 |
michaelgugino | lxd image copy | 16:50 |
odyssey4me | I suppose the way to do it might be to simply pre-stage the images from the web server into the repo server - then have LXC use the repo server once it's there | 16:50 |
evrardjp | this post was good indeed | 16:51 |
odyssey4me | similar to how we're using get-pip.py and upper constraints now | 16:51 |
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odyssey4me | anyway, this is all really just pontification right now. | 16:51 |
odyssey4me | my hot tub is calling me | 16:51 |
michaelgugino | lol | 16:51 |
andymccr | ok cool - we all done here for today? :D | 16:52 |
palendae | michaelgugino: Thanks for that link | 16:52 |
odyssey4me | :) cheers all, chat tomorrow | 16:52 |
stevelle | looks like andymccr / mhayden maybe end now? | 16:52 |
mhayden | can do | 16:53 |
evrardjp | thx everyone | 16:53 |
mhayden | thanks everyone | 16:53 |
andymccr | do it mhayden :D | 16:53 |
mhayden | #endmeeting | 16:53 |
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andymccr | thanks! | 16:53 |
openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 15 16:53:11 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:53 |
cloudnull | cheers | 16:53 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2016/openstack_ansible_meeting.2016-12-15-16.00.html | 16:53 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2016/openstack_ansible_meeting.2016-12-15-16.00.txt | 16:53 |
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LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 15 17:02:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:02 |
LouisF | hi all | 17:02 |
pcarver | hi | 17:02 |
bcafarel | hi | 17:02 |
doonhammer | Hi LouisF | 17:02 |
LouisF | agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting#Agenda_for_the_Networking-SFC_Meeting_.2812.2F15.2F2017.29 | 17:04 |
LouisF | #topic big stadium work | 17:04 |
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LouisF | api reference | 17:05 |
LouisF | pcarver: thanks for the patch update | 17:05 |
pcarver | I just split out the API definition from the API reference | 17:05 |
pcarver | I think the API reference is just about done, but the API definition is turning out to be more complicated than I expected | 17:06 |
pcarver | One question on the API reference though. Is tenant_id a valid field in a request? | 17:06 |
pcarver | I was thinking about whether an admin can make a request on behalf of a tenant | 17:07 |
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LouisF | pcarver: that could be a possible scenario | 17:07 |
pcarver | If a tenant makes a request they shouldn't have to supply their tenant ID in the request body, but I'm not sure about the admin scenario. | 17:08 |
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mohankumar | hi | 17:09 |
LouisF | pcarver: what are the issues with the api definition? | 17:09 |
LouisF | mohankumar: hi | 17:09 |
pcarver | I took the tenant_id field out of the request sections of the api-ref, but I've been having issues with getting SFC to work in devstack lately so I haven't tested it yet. | 17:09 |
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LouisF | pcarver: ok thanks | 17:10 |
pcarver | The issue with the API definition is that it uses custom validators and one of the validators uses an SFC specific exception so I had to copy those into neutron-lib as well. However, there are objections to that. | 17:10 |
pcarver | So I need to do some more work with the SFC exceptions and validators before I can make the API definition acceptable. | 17:11 |
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pcarver | I can't just import them from where they currently are because that would make neutron-lib depend on networking-sfc | 17:11 |
bcafarel | which I suspect won't be accepted by neutron-lib folks | 17:11 |
pcarver | which is not desirable. We want networking-sfc to depend on neutron-lib, but not the other way around. | 17:11 |
LouisF | pcarver: yes | 17:12 |
pcarver | So I'll get the validators and exceptions straightened out. I just didn't want it in the same commit. | 17:12 |
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pcarver | The api-ref commit was originally just supposed to be documentation | 17:13 |
LouisF | pcarver: right | 17:13 |
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pcarver | I added in the API definition because I thought it was just a simple matter of some copy and paste into neutron-lib | 17:13 |
pcarver | but since it's a bit more than simply copy/paste I'd like to decouple it from the documentation commit | 17:13 |
LouisF | pcarver: ok | 17:14 |
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LouisF | mohankumar: what is status of cli port? | 17:16 |
LouisF | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409759/ | 17:16 |
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LouisF | please review this patch | 17:18 |
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LouisF | mohankumar: there are few comment on it | 17:19 |
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mohankumar | LouisF: yes | 17:19 |
mohankumar | Working on it | 17:19 |
LouisF | mohankumar: thanks | 17:20 |
LouisF | moving on | 17:20 |
LouisF | #topic current work items | 17:21 |
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LouisF | fix flow deletion unit tests https://review.openstack.org/#/c/411194/ | 17:22 |
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LouisF | bcafarel: thanks for your work | 17:22 |
LouisF | enable pep8 test everywhere https://review.openstack.org/#/c/411387/ | 17:23 |
LouisF | bcafarel: thanks also | 17:23 |
LouisF | please review these | 17:23 |
bcafarel | LouisF: np, just giving you some more review work :) | 17:23 |
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LouisF | move db migration tests to functional tests https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410818/ | 17:25 |
LouisF | use project_id instead of tenant_id in DB models/OVS driver https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409162/ | 17:26 |
LouisF | please review these | 17:26 |
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LouisF | Use ovs devstack plugin functions from neutron https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409800/ | 17:27 |
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LouisF | Replaces uuid.uuid4 with uuidutils.generate_uuid() https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396129/ | 17:29 |
LouisF | Validate all flow-classifier parameters while creating port-chain https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409771/ | 17:29 |
LouisF | priya: thanks for your work | 17:30 |
priya | will update the unit tests | 17:30 |
LouisF | priya: can you address the comments | 17:30 |
LouisF | priya: thanks | 17:30 |
LouisF | Revert "Using --strict and add priority for del_flows" https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406938/ | 17:31 |
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LouisF | bcafarel: is this still needed? | 17:32 |
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pcarver | should it be "use project_id instead of tenant_id" of "use project_id in addition to tenant_id"? | 17:33 |
bcafarel | LouisF: should not with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/411194/ | 17:33 |
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pcarver | s/of/or/ | 17:33 |
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pcarver | i.e., should tenant_id be removed at this time? | 17:33 |
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LouisF | bcafarel: ok thanks | 17:33 |
bcafarel | I recall Igor mentioning problems with flow deletions, but I am not sure if it was related to this change (anyway this can be done in a later review) | 17:34 |
LouisF | bcafarel: ok | 17:34 |
bcafarel | pcarver: it is mostly internal use, so the real field is project_id | 17:35 |
LouisF | bcafarel: right | 17:35 |
pcarver | bcafarel: I was asking mainly in reference to the api-ref I'm working on. | 17:35 |
pcarver | Should tenant_id be deleted? | 17:35 |
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pcarver | Or should both be shown? | 17:35 |
bcafarel | hmm it is going away and there is some magic in the CLI to accept both | 17:36 |
bcafarel | I am not sure what should be shown in doc (like listing tenant_id but as deprecated) | 17:36 |
LouisF | can investigate further | 17:37 |
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LouisF | symmetric port chain for ovs driver/agent patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410482/ | 17:38 |
LouisF | please review | 17:38 |
LouisF | #topic ocata work | 17:38 |
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bcafarel | pcarver: we probably can do something like in neutron http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/networking/v2/#tenant-and-project-attributes-in-requests | 17:39 |
pcarver | bcafarel: that's what I was thinking | 17:39 |
pcarver | in the latest patch set of the api-ref I added project_id but did not delete tenant_id | 17:39 |
LouisF | pcarver: looks like a good approach | 17:40 |
pcarver | They would always be expected to be identical, but the API would return both | 17:40 |
LouisF | sfc graph work is under way https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388802/ | 17:43 |
LouisF | symmetric port chain for ovs in review | 17:44 |
LouisF | todo ovn driver work | 17:44 |
doonhammer | little progress - swamped with another project | 17:45 |
LouisF | anyone interested in this contact myself or John | 17:45 |
doonhammer | I am trying to carve out some time but hard | 17:45 |
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LouisF | doonhammer: ok | 17:45 |
doonhammer | happy to help someone else to come up to speed | 17:45 |
doonhammer | and participate | 17:46 |
LouisF | i have another meeting and will end meeting | 17:46 |
LouisF | anything else for next week? | 17:46 |
bcafarel | LouisF: yes, stable newton branch | 17:47 |
bcafarel | there is a bug open from people who tried it and got the ovs build failure, plus pending patches blocked as the gates fail for stable branch | 17:48 |
bcafarel | please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406152/ to unblock these | 17:48 |
LouisF | bcafarel: ok thanks | 17:48 |
bcafarel | it's mostly a backport of tests fixes, plus configuration updates to pick the correct branch | 17:48 |
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LouisF | bcafarel: will do | 17:49 |
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bcafarel | LouisF: thanks! | 17:50 |
LouisF | thanks all | 17:50 |
LouisF | bye | 17:51 |
LouisF | #endmeeting | 17:51 |
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