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| rosmaita | Courtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, abashmak | 14:00 |
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| rosmaita | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 13 14:00:33 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| nikhil | o/ | 14:00 |
| tsymanczyk | \o | 14:00 |
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| rosmaita | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| liwei | o/ | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| kairat | o/ | 14:00 |
| nikhil | o/ | 14:00 |
| hemanth | o/ | 14:00 |
| abashmak | o/ | 14:00 |
| tsymanczyk | \o | 14:00 |
| dharinic | \o | 14:00 |
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| tsymanczyk | now the wave \o/ | 14:01 |
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| rosmaita | good turnout! | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | #topic agenda | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
| rosmaita | nikhil: kairat: please respond to myu email about coresec at your earliest convenience | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | #topic updates | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
| rosmaita | #topic update: import refactor | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "update: import refactor (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:02 | |
| kairat | rosmaita, ok | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | kairat: ty | 14:02 |
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| rosmaita | nothing much to report, we had a productive sync on tuesday | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | meeting was logged, so please look at the log if you're interested | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | and this is where i should post a link | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/image_import_sync/ | 14:03 |
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| rosmaita | that's all from me about that | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | #topic update: community images | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "update: community images (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:04 | |
| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: you have the mic | 14:04 |
| tsymanczyk | there's a lot to say but if everyone stays calm we'll get through it it's not that bad | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | and please hold your applause for the end | 14:05 |
| tsymanczyk | the first patchset is essentially finished, a lot of great feedback, all integrated | 14:05 |
| tsymanczyk | i don't mind interrupting applause | 14:05 |
| tsymanczyk | the second patchset is down to 8 failing tests which should be easy to solve this week if not today | 14:05 |
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| tsymanczyk | now the "downside". last week's sync rosmaita mentioned an idea that i'd been putting off thinking of - that 'shared' possibly should be the default value going forward | 14:06 |
| Jokke_ | o/ | 14:06 |
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| tsymanczyk | and working on the second patchset and finally having to think about it - i agree. it make a lot of things better, and just in the "it really makes the code cleaner" way i believe it's the correct paradigm | 14:06 |
| tsymanczyk | so that left me with two choices | 14:06 |
| tsymanczyk | either the first patchset alters the table with private as teh default, and then the second patchset alters the table again changing just the default | 14:07 |
| tsymanczyk | or i just go and do the table alteration in the first patchset, leaving shared as teh default | 14:07 |
| tsymanczyk | note that this doesnt actual "harm" the first patchset's functionality as the backend always just treated that column as either public or not public | 14:07 |
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| tsymanczyk | as per the original paradigm | 14:07 |
| tsymanczyk | this has resulted in one of the jobs failing because nova doesn't understand "shared" | 14:08 |
| tsymanczyk | so currently jenkins is -1ing the first patchset even though it's fine | 14:08 |
| tsymanczyk | but that's a problem we were going to have to deal with anyways, when that "would be" implemented with the second patchset | 14:08 |
| Jokke_ | So how it is ok of Nova fails on it? | 14:08 |
| tsymanczyk | so there's pretty much two ways forward that i can see | 14:08 |
| Jokke_ | s/of/if/ | 14:09 |
| tsymanczyk | nova is failing on it because it's seeing images come back as "Shared" which is what we intended and would've been the end goal with the 2nd patchset | 14:09 |
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| rosmaita | is the problem that nova is using a versioned-object for the Image? | 14:09 |
| tsymanczyk | "in the end" this is a failure that is going to happen regardless. | 14:09 |
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| rosmaita | we probably need to update the Image object in nova to accept the new visibility values | 14:09 |
| Jokke_ | tsymanczyk: ah, gotcha | 14:09 |
| tsymanczyk | the nova api log complains about 'shared' not being one of 'public' or 'private' | 14:09 |
| tsymanczyk | anyways, there are two way forward | 14:10 |
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| nikhil | looks like a v1->v2 feature gap | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | nova should be using v2 in master, though | 14:10 |
| tsymanczyk | i can either back out my 1st patchset change, it can remain public/private, and we can have the literal noop firstpatchset pass 100% and be integrated and the second patchset does the dirty with a rather pointless default-value schema change | 14:10 |
| tsymanczyk | or i can collapse the two changesets into one | 14:10 |
| Jokke_ | yeah, I though we've had shared already. So our shared image status was actually never tested? | 14:11 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: yes it does | 14:11 |
| tsymanczyk | because if you look at the difference between teh two, the second really doesn't change much functionality. | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | Jokke_: no, never had 'shared' as actual 'visibility' value | 14:11 |
| tsymanczyk | i can't think of a reason to keep them seperate anymore beyond "We want to be able to say the 1st one passes 100%" for some reason. | 14:11 |
| tsymanczyk | yeah, shared images are exposed as 'private'. | 14:11 |
| Jokke_ | oh ffs | 14:11 |
| Jokke_ | pardon my french | 14:12 |
| tsymanczyk | going forward my preference is to collapse them into one unless someone else (rolling upgrades?) would benefit from keeping them separate and the rather weak 2nd schema change. | 14:12 |
| tsymanczyk | that is all i have to say | 14:12 |
| tsymanczyk | please remember and join the sync friday 9am pst if you want to yell at me | 14:12 |
| tsymanczyk | also i'll be on irc most of the day | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | yes, a design decision that has come back to bite us in the derriere, pardon my french also | 14:13 |
| tsymanczyk | but the takeaway is this is almost done | 14:13 |
| tsymanczyk | 8 unit tests to fix, then "the new" unit tests to add | 14:13 |
| tsymanczyk | there's light, people. | 14:13 |
| * rosmaita applauds | 14:13 | |
| Jokke_ | tsymanczyk: I don't see you being responsible for another past feck up | 14:13 |
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| * sigmavirus apologizes for being late | 14:13 | |
| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: can you paste the nova api error you're seeing somewhere? | 14:14 |
| Jokke_ | tsymanczyk: I'd say well done ... looking ofrward to have these fixed. Now how we address this backwards incompatibility towards nova | 14:14 |
| tsymanczyk | beyond fixing the code i have no idea how to move forward. this nova coordination thing is goign to be a drag i asume. | 14:14 |
| tsymanczyk | yeah sure one sec | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | i suspect it's a versioned object problem | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | #action rosmaita to look into what's necessary nova-side for image viz change | 14:15 |
| tsymanczyk | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ma0Gnh8j/ | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | thanks! | 14:15 |
| sigmavirus | rosmaita: solved by a versioned object approach or casued by v.o.s? | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | sigmavirus: both, i guess | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | i'm pretty sure nova already uses a versioned object to represent an Image | 14:16 |
| tsymanczyk | but i want to reiterate, if anyone sees benefit from my unbreaking the first patchset and doing a secodn migration that's fine i'm happy to do it. | 14:16 |
| tsymanczyk | just left on my own i'd collapse them to one and walk away. | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | let's talk about that at tomorrow's sync | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | community images sync: 16:00 UTC in #openstack-glance on friday | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | any questions, comments for tsymanczyk ? | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | ok, moving on ... i just took the liberty of moving agenda items around | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | #topic design summit | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "design summit (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:19 | |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-glance-summit-planning | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | i've scheduled the Glance design sessions | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | but not yet permanently | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | anyway, session leaders, please check for conflicts | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | i checked, but only for obvious conflicts | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | flaper87: flwang: Jokke_: ^^ | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | i will send out an email a bit later to the ML and cc session leaders for final approval before updating the actual summit schedule | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | i want to add some "expected outcomes" to each session first | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | one thing i want to emphasize | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | we won't have a session on rolling upgrades | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | mainly because the key people working on them won't be present at the summit | 14:22 |
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| rosmaita | as mentioned last week, we will have a video session about rolling upgrades shortly after the summit | 14:22 |
| Jokke_ | is there CP session for that? | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | there is | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | and there's also one or two main summit sessions | 14:22 |
| Jokke_ | need to make a note to be there | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | (main == not design summit track) | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | Jokke_: that's a good point | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | the cross-project sessions have been scheduled | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | i think they're pretty much all tuesday | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | i think this is the link | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Cross%20Project%20workshops%3A | 14:24 |
| Jokke_ | rosmaita: yeah I think it was supposed to be in a way that CPs collide as little as possible with project sessions so they are all on same day | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | we could try to coordinate like last summit so that glance is represented in various rooms | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | but there are so few of us, it might not be worth it | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | anyway, summit attendees: please look at the glance design summit etherpad and point out any conflicts | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | any questions, comments? | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | ok, moving along, then | 14:27 |
| Jokke_ | lgtm | 14:27 |
| Jokke_ | so far ;) | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | #topic "v2 route doesn't exist" | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1632742 | 14:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ""v2 route doesn't exist" (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:27 | |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1632742 in Glance "/v2 route doesn't exist" [Undecided,Triaged] - Assigned to Brian Rosmaita (brian-rosmaita) | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | matt riedemann filed this, details are on the bug, but i have a quick question for the community | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | the situation is that in the "versions" response | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | i mean the response to GET / or GET /versions | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | #link http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/image/versions/index.html?expanded=id1-detail#id1 | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | key thing to notice is that the href in the links looks like this: | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | http://g.os.org:9292/v1/ | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | http://g.os.org:9292/v2/ | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | when you do GET http://g.os.org:9292/v1/ , you get an image-list response | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | which is a bit weird, but it's legacy behavior | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | when you do GET http://g.os.org:9292/v2/ , you get a 404 | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | which isn't new behavior, but it is a bit odd also | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | my question is: we could return a list of v2 versions for GET http://g.os.org:9292/v2/ | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | but that would change the response code from 404 to 200 | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | i'm just wondering whether that's a breaking change | 14:31 |
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| hemanth | it doesn't sound like a breaking change to me | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | also wondering whether the endpoint advertised in the "versions" response really has to give you some kind of content with a 200 | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | or whether it's just supposed to be a starting point for constructing API calls | 14:32 |
| nikhil | even if it is (which I think is) this change looks a good one | 14:32 |
| Jokke_ | well like Sean pointed out the API ref does not claim /v2/ being valid url | 14:32 |
| nikhil | is the uri /v2/ or just /v2 ? | 14:33 |
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| hemanth | any one know what other projects do? | 14:34 |
| Jokke_ | nikhil: so /v2/ returns 404 and /v2 returns 302 + no content | 14:34 |
| nikhil | ah, thx | 14:34 |
| stevelle | imo don't return an image list for /v2/ just because v1 does that. | 14:34 |
| Jokke_ | stevelle: ++ | 14:35 |
| hemanth | +1 | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | i agree with that entirely! | 14:35 |
| stevelle | what I would expect from /v2/ would be a discovery endpoint that tells me what I can do with v2. | 14:35 |
| stevelle | but that isn't on the table right now | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | stevelle: you mean like some kind of json home thing? | 14:36 |
| stevelle | yes | 14:36 |
| Jokke_ | redirect to api reference docs | 14:36 |
| nikhil | lol | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | i missed sean's comment in the bug, otherwise i would have just agreed and not mentioned any of this! | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | i think we close as "won't fix" and wait for the api-wg to come to agreement on stevelle 's suggestion | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | otherwise, we'll be stuck wiht whatever we return now | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | so i think, return 404 | 14:37 |
| stevelle | +1 | 14:38 |
| Jokke_ | so only change I'd be ok doing atm. to that is to agree that we return the same thing from /v2 and /v2/ being that 404 or 302 without content | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | ok, i'll put my position on the bug, if anyone has second thoughts, please go to the bug and register them | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | Jokke_: i'm not sure i even want to do that | 14:39 |
| Jokke_ | what ever it is we have documented the behavior being for either (I'm pretty sure we haven't documented 'em both) | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | yes, i think this is undocumented | 14:39 |
| Jokke_ | if we are undocumented on both, lets not touch it | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | i think the current behavior makes sense; it's not documented, but that gives us flexibility in case it makes sense to change the 404 to some kind of content later | 14:40 |
| Jokke_ | for people like Monty and Matt who like to talk to these APIs via curl, there is the API reference documentation telling them what they can/can't/should do | 14:40 |
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| rosmaita | ok, works for me ... any other comments? | 14:41 |
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| rosmaita | ok, one more topic for today | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | #topic glance_store (Shared & public images not working with multi-tenant swift backend) | 14:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "glance_store (Shared & public images not working with multi-tenant swift backend) (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:42 | |
| rosmaita | dharinic brought this up a few meetings ago | 14:42 |
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| rosmaita | i think she and hemanth have figured out the cause | 14:43 |
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| rosmaita | and it is a bit unpleasant | 14:43 |
| Jokke_ | I'm not surprised | 14:43 |
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| nikhil | publicized images though, some public imgs like admin provided work | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | as far as i can tell, image sharing and public image access is broken in the current glance_store if you use swift configured for multi-tenant storage | 14:44 |
| Jokke_ | and I think the solution for that is document that these 2 wont work together? | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | no, they can work together | 14:44 |
| nikhil | well the workaround is okay with me | 14:44 |
| Jokke_ | uuh ... positive surprise for a change ;) | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | what can't work together is the swift+config setting plus swift-multi-tenant | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | actually, i dont' think we have a workaround | 14:45 |
| hemanth | we can even add some validation for glance to not come up if both are configured | 14:45 |
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| rosmaita | i think there are two separate bugs | 14:45 |
| nikhil | k | 14:45 |
| dharinic | Yes. cos wift+condif and multi-tenant causes the storage_url to be picked up from the swift config's auth address | 14:45 |
| dharinic | swift+config | 14:46 |
| nikhil | would be good to get info on the other part of the bug as a second bug | 14:46 |
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| rosmaita | ok, so bug #1: (or is it a feature request?): Glance should not allow swift+config to be used with multi-tenant-store | 14:47 |
| openstack | bug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 - Assigned to MFauzilkamil Zainuddin (apogee) | 14:47 |
| nikhil | dharinic: and why is it difficult to have a workaround that auth url? | 14:47 |
| stevelle | lol | 14:47 |
| nikhil | heh | 14:47 |
| * rosmaita can't wait to see what bug #2 is | 14:47 | |
| nikhil | bug #2 | 14:48 |
| hemanth | nikhil: should be possible in theory I think but it's just way it is right now | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | bug #2 is: there was a change in glance_store to get the swift endpoint from the caller's service catalog | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | when the caller is requesting a shared image, or a public image, this isn't going to work | 14:48 |
| dharinic | nikhil, I am not sure I understood the question. | 14:49 |
| hemanth | bug #2 is caused by a fix to bug #1 | 14:49 |
| openstack | bug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 - Assigned to MFauzilkamil Zainuddin (apogee) | 14:49 |
| nikhil | I see | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | well, a "fix", anyway | 14:49 |
| hemanth | "fix" in some sense of the word | 14:50 |
| stevelle | we're not setting the right read permissions on the swift container when it writes using multi-tenant-store? | 14:50 |
| hemanth | stevelle: no, we are just reading from the wrong account | 14:50 |
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| Jokke_ | rosmaita: first one is defo RFE documenting it is bug "fix" | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | stevelle: we try to pull the image from the caller's account, not the actual image owner's account | 14:51 |
| hemanth | stevelle: if you created the public/shared image, I'm be looking for that image under my account | 14:51 |
| hemanth | *I'd | 14:51 |
| dharinic | And just as the bug reporter said, the storage_url obtained from the users context causes it to be bound to the image downloader's project and so the GET fails. | 14:51 |
| Jokke_ | does swift support symbolic links between accounts? :P | 14:51 |
| stevelle | ok, so if trying to read a shared image we don't own we just need to use a different url construction | 14:51 |
| stevelle | that makes sense | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | so i believe we will need to revert that "fix" to bug 1 in order to fix bug 2 | 14:52 |
| openstack | bug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 - Assigned to MFauzilkamil Zainuddin (apogee) | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | (thought not using a # would fool it) | 14:52 |
| Jokke_ | /kb openstack nuf is nuf | 14:52 |
| Jokke_ | :P | 14:52 |
| abashmak | bug1 | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | and then we will have to release a new glance_store | 14:53 |
| stevelle | that seems necessary, regardless | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | i want to bring it up here because i'm not sure how we can test this | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | our current tests didn't catch it | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | #action everyone put on thinking caps | 14:55 |
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| hemanth | maybe assert the swift url we are reading from? | 14:55 |
| Jokke_ | Do we have tempest bringing that environment up? | 14:55 |
| Jokke_ | I think that's the place this could/should be tested | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | Jokke_: i think you are correct about that | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | but i'm also wondering how many people use multi-tenant-swift-store ? | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | anyone here know of anyone who uses it? | 14:56 |
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| rosmaita | i believe the bug was detected in devstack | 14:56 |
| Jokke_ | based on how messed up it is and how little we hear about it, I'd say none :P | 14:56 |
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| rosmaita | i wonder whether i should float a proposal to remove support and see what the reaction is | 14:57 |
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| Jokke_ | ++ | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | because setting up tempest tests for this would be an interesting exercise, but i don't want it to be pointless as well | 14:57 |
| nikhil | let's not do it without a plan | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: how do you mean? | 14:58 |
| stevelle | tempest is the right place for this test | 14:58 |
| nikhil | w/o a multi tenant swift store support the evolution for swift backend seems impossible | 14:58 |
| Jokke_ | nikhil: evolution to what? | 14:58 |
| nikhil | storing all images in one account is def a bad practice | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | but so is storing it in n accounts where n == number of end users | 14:59 |
| nikhil | using the config file you can sanely scale that one account to may be 10 | 14:59 |
| hemanth | nikhil: with swift+config I think we can store images in multiple accounts | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | yes, i think they are different use cases? | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | and we are out of time | 14:59 |
| nikhil | I don't care | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | we'll have to continue this discussion later | 14:59 |
| nikhil | but doing it just for the sake of getting reaction doesn't seem fittin | 14:59 |
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| rosmaita | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 13 15:00:16 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-10-13-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-10-13-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-10-13-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| sjmc7 | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 13 15:00:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sjmc7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:00 |
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| RickA-HP | o/ | 15:00 |
| TravT | o/ | 15:00 |
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| sjmc7 | morning all | 15:00 |
| yuriyz|2 | o/ | 15:01 |
| yingjun | o/ | 15:01 |
| lei-zh | o/ | 15:01 |
| sjmc7 | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:01 |
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| matt-borland | o/ | 15:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 15:01 |
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| sjmc7 | don’t have too many things on the agenda so if anyone has anything they want to bring up, there will be plenty of time | 15:01 |
| sjmc7 | give folks one more minute to get coffee / out of bed | 15:02 |
| * matt-borland is out of coffee | 15:02 | |
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| yuriyz|2 | hi, good news form ironic notification spec merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347242/ | 15:02 |
| sjmc7 | but not bed? | 15:02 |
| tyr | o/ | 15:02 |
| matt-borland | lol | 15:02 |
| sjmc7 | ah, splendid yuriyz|2 | 15:02 |
| Kevin_Zheng | o/ | 15:02 |
| sjmc7 | i’ll add that to the end of the agenda, i meant to bring that up | 15:02 |
| TravT | yuriyz|2: great! | 15:02 |
| sjmc7 | ok | 15:03 |
| sjmc7 | #topic Project Teams Gathering | 15:03 |
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| sjmc7 | as most people know, the powers that be have changed the format of the summit after barcelona | 15:03 |
| sjmc7 | there’ll now be the summit at the regular time but the design summit has been replaced by a project teams gathering held before the start of hte next cycle | 15:04 |
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| sjmc7 | the intent is it will be similar to the midcycles many projects hold, but all together | 15:04 |
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| sjmc7 | the first one will be in atlanta end of february 2017 | 15:04 |
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| sjmc7 | i’ve been asked if we a) need a room or b) will be sending anyone to it | 15:05 |
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| matt-borland | I doubt that I will be going | 15:06 |
| RickA-HP | Do we know of any big changes for the 'Q' release, or will it be trying to get more plugins? | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | i’m tempted to say we don’t need space devoted to us, since it’s a small team and we can roam around looking for space | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | don’t know yet | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | if loads of people are planning to go i’ll ask for a room | 15:06 |
| RickA-HP | So far the silence is implying no room :) | 15:07 |
| sjmc7 | so maybe just indicate on the agenda etherpad if you are definitely/maybe going by EOD tomorrow, that’d be helpful | 15:07 |
| sjmc7 | yeah :) | 15:07 |
| TravT | sjmc7: we haven't had an actual mid-cycle yet for searchlight... | 15:07 |
| TravT | and at the summit's we've only had 2 - 3 rooms. | 15:07 |
| rosmaita | i think we should ask for a room | 15:07 |
| rosmaita | just to keep a buzz going | 15:07 |
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| rosmaita | problem is, it's hard to get a commitment to travel this far out | 15:07 |
| sjmc7 | right | 15:08 |
| rosmaita | at least at rackspace | 15:08 |
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| sjmc7 | and i have a feeling i’m in costa rica that week | 15:08 |
| TravT | its pretty much impossible | 15:08 |
| rosmaita | PTG at steve's place! | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | gatecrash my friend’s wedding in CR! | 15:08 |
| rosmaita | well, at least atlanta != hoboken | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | hoboken’s next summer | 15:08 |
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| lei-zh | I always thought people in us can drive to any place inside the country :） | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | rosmaita: do you know if room space is limited? | 15:08 |
| rosmaita | sjmc7: don't know | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | lei-zh: i’m not originally from here so i’ve never got used to it :) | 15:09 |
| rosmaita | i filled out the survey and said i couldn't guarantee actual attendance | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | ok. i’ll do the same | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | let them figure it out | 15:09 |
| rosmaita | last week i asked glance community to start talking to their managers | 15:09 |
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| sjmc7 | i imagine it’s a series of largeish meeting rooms versus the full-on convention center treatment | 15:10 |
| rosmaita | because one problem is, you sometimes need to present to go somewhere | 15:10 |
| rosmaita | so if so, i am going to formalize the glance sessions to ahve actual presentations | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, that’s been our company’s stance this year | 15:10 |
| TravT | lei-zh, you can, but most people don't. It'd be about a two day drive to get to Atlanta from where I live | 15:10 |
| rosmaita | which is against the spirit of loose discussions, but what can you do? | 15:10 |
| rosmaita | i think we will have 4 total glance people in barcelona | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | ouch :( | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | the times are a changin' | 15:11 |
| rosmaita | and we are supposed to be one of hte 6 core projects | 15:11 |
| rosmaita | yeah | 15:11 |
| sjmc7 | ok. i’ll tentatively say yes but no guarantees | 15:11 |
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| sjmc7 | this was always a danger with splitting the conference i guess | 15:11 |
| rosmaita | i hope the foundation can put pressure on members to send contributors | 15:12 |
| rosmaita | the info about the PTG says "any active contributor should go" | 15:12 |
| rosmaita | but it doesn't say who will pay for it | 15:12 |
| sjmc7 | right :) | 15:12 |
| rosmaita | so, it's not supposed to be cores only | 15:12 |
| rosmaita | but the way things are going, it may just be the PTL in a room by him/herself | 15:12 |
| sjmc7 | or not even in my case if i’m out of the country :) | 15:13 |
| rosmaita | sorry for being so pessimistic, i will shut up now | 15:13 |
| sjmc7 | i’ll bring you a very small violin | 15:13 |
| sjmc7 | ok, moving on | 15:13 |
| sjmc7 | #topic Reviews | 15:13 |
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| yuriyz|2 | I have a question, we (ironic team) limited levels set to INFO an ERROR. Add new one static handler or use config option? the patch is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364461/ | 15:13 |
| sjmc7 | yuriyz|2: i’d go with a static handler | 15:14 |
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| RickA-HP | If it's just one additional handler, I agree with adding a static handler. | 15:14 |
| yuriyz|2 | ok it will be a simple solution | 15:14 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, that should simplify things | 15:15 |
| sjmc7 | i will try to get ironic working on one of our systems in the next few days | 15:15 |
| sjmc7 | so i can test it out properly | 15:15 |
| sjmc7 | apologies for not getting to it earlier | 15:15 |
| sjmc7 | thanks for doing it; it’s great you were able to submit the review without needing much help from us | 15:16 |
| sjmc7 | the other one was the pipeling architecture (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359972) | 15:17 |
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| lei-zh | yeah, thanks to rick and steve, I've read your comments | 15:18 |
| sjmc7 | i finally got round to taking another look at this yesterday and left a comment on the review, but i think it would be worth considering simplifying such that notifications are always piushed to elasticsearch (or potentially in future some other database) but also additional publishers | 15:18 |
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| sjmc7 | reason being that the notification handlers don’t treat ES as a write-only store, they read from it | 15:19 |
| sjmc7 | so without it a number of things won’t work | 15:19 |
| RickA-HP | Yes, I think it makes sense to serialize the data and send it to ES. Then take the raw payload and send it to the pipeline of publishers. | 15:20 |
| sjmc7 | the alternative is to refactor so that ES is only used as a write-only store | 15:20 |
| sjmc7 | the advantage doing it that way is the code will be vastly simplified | 15:21 |
| sjmc7 | (the first way) | 15:21 |
| lei-zh | so the structure looks like previous zaqar publisher patch, keep es part unchanged and put pipeline after documents are indexed, is that right? | 15:21 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah - return the document from the handler. there might be some places that requires a bit of extra work but not many | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | and again, i’m really sorry it took so long to get around to looking at it again | 15:22 |
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| sjmc7 | had trouble finding a few hours where i could concentrate without interruptions | 15:22 |
| lei-zh | yeah, to turn es document into a generic one maybe | 15:22 |
| TravT | one reason i like the "goes to ES first" is that this should make the error handling easier as well. | 15:23 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, the document before we add the admin/user role field | 15:23 |
| lei-zh | it's ok, cause we cannot figure out the whole thing until some code is show | 15:23 |
| sjmc7 | yeah - it means that ‘success’ is easier to define | 15:23 |
| TravT | basically, this IS searchlight. it MUST be searchable. | 15:23 |
| RickA-HP | But do other publishers care about the ES document? Or do they only care about the raw payload. Is the mappings and normalized fields useful for publishers? | 15:24 |
| sjmc7 | that i don’t know, and could be configurable | 15:24 |
| sjmc7 | the handler could return the raw and processed payload | 15:24 |
| sjmc7 | and be up to a publisher | 15:24 |
| sjmc7 | you might only care about the deltas | 15:24 |
| lei-zh | maybe can return raw payload and es document together, and let publishers decide what they wanna do? | 15:25 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, that might make sense | 15:25 |
| TravT | i still also think that if searchlight is effectively a caching layer that anybody chaining onto it's pipeline could guarantee that the cache is current with anything it forwards along... | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | TravT: you mean beyond just the one event being processed? | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | we can’t absolutely guarantee anything | 15:26 |
| TravT | well if it is just fanning out notifications | 15:26 |
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| TravT | and one of them happens to be a UI | 15:27 |
| TravT | and that UI uses searchlight | 15:27 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, eventually you’d get everything that’s going on | 15:27 |
| sjmc7 | ah, i see | 15:27 |
| sjmc7 | yes, there’d be internal consistency | 15:27 |
| TravT | but, there's never any guarantees of perfection. | 15:27 |
| TravT | distributed systems are pretty much always eventual consistency | 15:28 |
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| TravT | anyway, please feel free to ignore me. | 15:28 |
| sjmc7 | :) | 15:28 |
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| TravT | i think the base idea has merit for the reasons sjmc7 and RickA-HP said | 15:28 |
| sjmc7 | does that make sense lei-zh ? | 15:29 |
| sjmc7 | i’m not trying to be a dictator :) | 15:29 |
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| RickA-HP | I think I'll write a MongoDB publisher and have a competitor to Searchlight :) | 15:29 |
| sjmc7 | and i think the original patch was closer to this before i suggested doing it the other way | 15:29 |
| lei-zh | yes, it will definitely simplify things a lot | 15:29 |
| sjmc7 | ok. i do have more time to be looking at reviews now so i’ll pay more attention to it. we can definitely get it in this cycle | 15:30 |
| lei-zh | so ack could be done after successfully es indexing, like we do now | 15:31 |
| RickA-HP | Yes. | 15:31 |
| sjmc7 | yep | 15:31 |
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| TravT | +1 to that | 15:32 |
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| TravT | i think that helps keeps searchlight's primary mission simpler as well. | 15:33 |
| TravT | also... | 15:33 |
| TravT | now that we are 1.0 | 15:33 |
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| TravT | this seems like it would align better | 15:33 |
| lei-zh | yeah, if we do it progessively, no need for me to intro writing new plugins : ) | 15:34 |
| lei-zh | aggressively | 15:34 |
| sjmc7 | both! | 15:35 |
| sjmc7 | ok, let’s do that | 15:35 |
| sjmc7 | ok, last thing i had on the agenda | 15:35 |
| sjmc7 | #topic Elasticsearch 5.0 awareness | 15:35 |
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| sjmc7 | ES 5.0 will be released before the end of the year. i’m going to test our compatibility and file bugs for stuff that has been removed, but it’d be nice to be both 2.0 and 5.0 compatible before it comes out | 15:36 |
| sjmc7 | it shouldn’t be as big a change as 1.x to 2.x | 15:36 |
| sjmc7 | but a lot of things were deprecated in 2.x and will be removed in 5 | 15:37 |
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| TravT | thanks for looking at that steve | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | one really nice thing in 5.0 is proper ipv6 support | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | can do range queries for toasters and such | 15:39 |
| yingjun | sounds like it's a big jump from 2.x to 5.x | 15:39 |
| sjmc7 | 2.0 indexes are backwards compatible, allegedly | 15:40 |
| sjmc7 | there is a big list of breaking changes though | 15:40 |
| sjmc7 | they have a relaly good migration tool which i used before | 15:40 |
| sjmc7 | scans mappings and lets you know what problems you’ll have | 15:40 |
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| sjmc7 | the issues we had with 2 were really easy to fix | 15:41 |
| sjmc7 | that was pretty much it for the agenda - anyone have any other stuff they wanted to discuss? | 15:41 |
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| RickA-HP | Nope. | 15:42 |
| lei-zh | nope | 15:43 |
| sjmc7 | going… going | 15:43 |
| TravT | nope | 15:43 |
| sjmc7 | ok. thanks all! | 15:43 |
| sjmc7 | #endmeeting | 15:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 13 15:43:43 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-10-13-15.00.html | 15:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-10-13-15.00.txt | 15:43 |
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| asettle | Bit early, but let's get boogy-ing | 16:00 |
| evrardjp | hey | 16:00 |
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| evrardjp | it's o clock | 16:00 |
| evrardjp | gogogo | 16:00 |
| asettle | #startmeeting OpenStack Ansible | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 13 16:00:23 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is asettle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack Ansible)" | 16:00 | |
| evrardjp | woot | 16:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible' | 16:00 |
| asettle | Yay go meeting! | 16:00 |
| asettle | #topic Roll Call | 16:00 |
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| evrardjp | o/ | 16:00 |
| andymccr | o/ | 16:00 |
| asettle | Get to it people | 16:00 |
| odyssey4me | o/ | 16:00 |
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| mattt | \o | 16:01 |
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| evrardjp | all those left handed ppl | 16:01 |
| asettle | I'll give it to :05 before we begin | 16:01 |
| adreznec | o/ | 16:01 |
| odyssey4me | /o\ \o/ | 16:02 |
| asettle | odyssey4me: nice moves bro | 16:02 |
| odyssey4me | just doing a little exercise :p | 16:02 |
| asettle | Well, good time to stretch, you know? | 16:02 |
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| palendae | o/ | 16:03 |
| * odyssey4me eyes the Playstation VR on the table in front of him... | 16:03 | |
| asettle | Alright, shall we boogie people? 5 minutes is a really long time. | 16:04 |
| asettle | #topic Review action items from last week | 16:04 |
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| asettle | "summit-attendees Talk about upstream Ansible modules for OpenStack" | 16:04 |
| asettle | andymccr , is this you? | 16:04 |
| * odyssey4me sees palendae's name next to the agenda item | 16:04 | |
| asettle | I see no names. Oh well, I trust you odyssey4me | 16:05 |
| asettle | palendae: ? | 16:05 |
| andymccr | i think its more a point that we need to talk about it at the summit! and decide what to do, i think its a valid issue, although it would be helpful if we could add some examples of what currently doesnt work. | 16:05 |
| evrardjp | all the modules? | 16:05 |
| evrardjp | :p | 16:05 |
| andymccr | i definitely like the idea of using the upstream modules | 16:05 |
| evrardjp | keystone is obviously the more critical because it's used in many roles | 16:06 |
| odyssey4me | It seems pretty straightforward - let's move everything we can to use upstream modules. Then identify things that don't yet work and PR them upstream. | 16:06 |
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| evrardjp | andymccr: we have to verify the overlap (if shade now does everything we need) | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | i am pretty sure it's better than before | 16:06 |
| palendae | asettle, That's from last week | 16:06 |
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| palendae | Sorry | 16:06 |
| andymccr | im sure we can | 16:07 |
| michaelgugino | o/ | 16:07 |
| odyssey4me | The unfortunate side-effect is that we may need to hedge our bets and update our modules for those parts that don't work because Ansible is terrible at turnaround for modules. | 16:07 |
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| odyssey4me | *core* modules | 16:07 |
| asettle | palendae: ah okay :) thanks for letting me know! | 16:07 |
| palendae | But yeah, those points stand | 16:07 |
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| palendae | I added a link to the existing modules that I found on the summit etherpad | 16:07 |
| evrardjp | odyssey4me: we can ship it within the plugins repo as we currently do | 16:07 |
| evrardjp | it's perfectly fine for me | 16:07 |
| evrardjp | that was the initial idea with config_template anyway | 16:07 |
| palendae | From what I could see, only Keystone stuff is in there so far | 16:07 |
| odyssey4me | I don't know if you can do some level of assessment palendae and get cracking at it? | 16:07 |
| odyssey4me | I think there is glance too. | 16:07 |
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| evrardjp | odyssey4me: who? if it's me I'd be happy to | 16:08 |
| odyssey4me | http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/os_image_module.html | 16:08 |
| evrardjp | real work | 16:08 |
| evrardjp | :p | 16:08 |
| palendae | Ok, I'll try to map out what services are currently supported | 16:08 |
| andymccr | palendae: that'd be great | 16:08 |
| andymccr | thanks! | 16:08 |
| odyssey4me | I think we can cover the os_tempest role needs by the looks of things | 16:09 |
| odyssey4me | and possibly the service registrations too | 16:09 |
| evrardjp | palendae: we'd have to check deep for keystone (domain support etc...) ... you probably know that :p | 16:09 |
| andymccr | yeah - i think we can figure that out but the end result atm is that we are agreed in moving to upstream modules for OS services | 16:10 |
| palendae | evrardjp, Yeah, I figure I'll start high level then work my way down | 16:10 |
| evrardjp | feel free to share | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | I'm pretty sure that Bluebox will be working on much the same stuff, so if we have a hit list prepared for the summit then we can divide the work up and collaborate. | 16:10 |
| palendae | And infra | 16:10 |
| palendae | Dunno if anyone from Ansible will be at Summit | 16:10 |
| palendae | Their attention seems to help move things along ;) | 16:11 |
| spotz | o\ - late:) | 16:11 |
| asettle | No sweat spotz | 16:11 |
| andymccr | #action palendae to review upstream modules | 16:11 |
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| andymccr | ok i think we're good to move on? | 16:11 |
| asettle | Moving along. | 16:11 |
| palendae | Onward | 16:11 |
| asettle | Now, if something goes wrong - or I bring up an outdated issue, I apologise. | 16:11 |
| asettle | I'm having tech wiki issues. | 16:11 |
| odyssey4me | palendae yeah, we have buttons to push to move things along - but core modules fall under the core team and they're bottlenecked | 16:11 |
| asettle | For some reason | 16:11 |
| asettle | ANYWAY | 16:11 |
| asettle | #topic Barcelona Summit schedule | 16:12 |
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| asettle | andymccr | 16:12 |
| odyssey4me | although mordred will likely be a module maintainer for the os_ modules and he never sleeps :p | 16:12 |
| asettle | You're up if you have anything | 16:12 |
| asettle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-barcelona-schedule | 16:12 |
| evrardjp | odyssey4me: @emonty, @shrews, @juliakreger, @j2sol, @rcarrillocruz on github for the os modules | 16:12 |
| andymccr | that link is still up, so https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-barcelona-schedule - i'm going to put a few topics up against some of those tomorrow | 16:12 |
| andymccr | to make it smoother at the summit, but i don't want it to be too rigid | 16:13 |
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| asettle | Anyone have any questions/comments/ concerns for the summit schedule? | 16:13 |
| andymccr | that's pretty much it on that, so if you have some summit ideas you definitely want discussed add them to the etherpad or ping me! | 16:13 |
| asettle | On that note, andymccr don't run away | 16:13 |
| asettle | #topic PTG Atlanta Feb 20-24th | 16:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG Atlanta Feb 20-24th (Meeting topic: OpenStack Ansible)" | 16:13 | |
| andymccr | so just a note again - thats the date of the PTG, planning is still early doors, I've confirmed that OpenStack-Ansible will be attending, details will follow | 16:14 |
| * odyssey4me notes it in his diary | 16:14 | |
| evrardjp | thanks andymccr | 16:14 |
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| asettle | Thanks andymccr :) | 16:14 |
| asettle | Moving on, | 16:14 |
| asettle | #topic Documentation | 16:14 |
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| asettle | Install guide is all done, give or take a few updates | 16:15 |
| asettle | Thanks everyone | 16:15 |
| asettle | palendae: you had a note in the agenda for today | 16:15 |
| asettle | "Do we want automated code extraction from the docs, to verify accuracy/functionality?" | 16:15 |
| asettle | Do you have any more on this? | 16:15 |
| asettle | Related | 16:15 |
| asettle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382649/ | 16:15 |
| palendae | asettle, That was also from last week, guess I should have cleaned up :p | 16:15 |
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| asettle | palendae: bummer bro. All good. We'll move on :) | 16:15 |
| asettle | I actually do want to talk about docs | 16:16 |
| asettle | I'm interested in overhauling the Upgrade Guide for Ocata | 16:16 |
| asettle | It's a small release cycle, enough time | 16:16 |
| asettle | andymccr odyssey4me - do you have thoughts/objections? | 16:16 |
| palendae | Overhaul how? | 16:16 |
| andymccr | asettle: what are you thinking for the overhaul, and how much help are you thinking you'll need? | 16:16 |
| odyssey4me | asettle we may just end up overhauling the whole process, not sure | 16:16 |
| andymccr | yeah thats true - we are looking to change the process, or at least come up with ideas around that | 16:17 |
| odyssey4me | This may be worth a chat at the summit - I think we have a lot more people interested in making upgrades be awesome now. | 16:17 |
| asettle | Well, basically - looking at adjusting it similarly to the way we did the install guide. We'll look at restructuring for best practice. And the other thing, whihc odyssey4me has already noted, is the practice was planned to be overhauled anyway | 16:17 |
| odyssey4me | So if it's not on the agenda already, I suggest we make it so. | 16:17 |
| asettle | Working alongside with the upgrade team, we'll work on the guide. | 16:17 |
| evrardjp | odyssey4me: +1 | 16:17 |
| andymccr | agree - I'll set one session to talk about hte upgrade process and docs around that - would that work for you? | 16:17 |
| palendae | No objections then | 16:17 |
| asettle | andymccr: would definitely :) thank you | 16:18 |
| asettle | Thanks palendae | 16:18 |
| odyssey4me | wfm :) | 16:18 |
| asettle | Okay, thanks guys | 16:18 |
| asettle | Moving on | 16:18 |
| andymccr | #action: andymccr to assign summit session to upgrades | 16:18 |
| asettle | Thanks for being my actioneer | 16:18 |
| asettle | Apparently I can't remmeber that command :P | 16:18 |
| asettle | #topic Release Planning and Decisions | 16:18 |
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| asettle | odyssey4me: | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | asettle: it's told at the beginning of the meeting when you startmeeting | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | Alrighty - Newton RC3 must be requested today | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | we have a short list of patches that should get in | 16:19 |
| asettle | evrardjp: I know dude :p I just don't remember it | 16:19 |
| asettle | Remember to do it* | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/starredby:jesse-pretorius+project:%255Eopenstack/openstack-ansible.*+status:open | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | grep | 16:19 |
| asettle | odyssey4me: could you put that i the etherpad? | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | one is still a master patch, so it'll need backporting once it merges | 16:19 |
| asettle | odyssey4me: they look like they're all in | 16:19 |
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| odyssey4me | so I'll need some review assistance in a bit | 16:19 |
| asettle | odyssey4me: okay, cool. Ping us when you need in openstack-ansible | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | the overlayfs one can probably wait - any thoughts on that? | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | I'm basically thinking nice to have, but not essential. | 16:20 |
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| odyssey4me | no thoughts? | 16:21 |
| andymccr | hmm yeah probably agree | 16:21 |
| andymccr | if it goes in happy to backport it straight away | 16:21 |
| jmccrory | might be bad first impression if someone has a new aio deploy at newton and it fails | 16:21 |
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| asettle | *raises hand* yes I'd agree with that | 16:21 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, that was kinda my only motivation for having it included | 16:21 |
| andymccr | hmm | 16:22 |
| andymccr | yeah tahts fair | 16:22 |
| odyssey4me | ok, it's back in then | 16:22 |
| andymccr | ok lets backport it? | 16:22 |
| asettle | Yep | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | jmccrory: +1 | 16:22 |
| andymccr | odyssey4me: just ping us and we'll get it in. | 16:22 |
| odyssey4me | *ahem* sure | 16:22 |
| palendae | Yeah, AIOs should probably work :p | 16:22 |
| asettle | #action andymccr and odyssey4me to ensure backports are completed | 16:22 |
| asettle | Shall we continue? :) | 16:23 |
| andymccr | si si | 16:23 |
| odyssey4me | oh yes | 16:23 |
| asettle | #topic Blueprint work | 16:23 |
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| asettle | I actually mhayden but he's not here | 16:23 |
| odyssey4me | any thoughts on mitaka/liberty releases? | 16:23 |
| odyssey4me | I think we may be behind on a tag or something | 16:23 |
| odyssey4me | I honestly have lost track. | 16:23 |
| asettle | OH yes, sorry odyssey4me ma bad | 16:23 |
| asettle | odyssey4me: perhaops someone could do a inventory? | 16:23 |
| asettle | Anyone available to do that? | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | well depending on what to do | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | yes, it seems I'm a week behind | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | ok - any objections to requesting a release for mitaka/liberty? | 16:24 |
| andymccr | no objection | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | I have some admin to catch up on - I'll get it done tomorrow | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | and show andymccr how it all works | 16:25 |
| evrardjp | none, do we want to wait for recent upgrades to M bugs to be merged? | 16:25 |
| andymccr | haha +2 | 16:25 |
| asettle | #action odyssey4me to catch up on admin and show andymccr how to FLYYYYYYY | 16:25 |
| evrardjp | wooot | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp there's always another tag :p | 16:25 |
| asettle | Anyway, back to the topic of Blueprint work. | 16:25 |
| asettle | Any comments on mhayden 's things? | 16:26 |
| asettle | Or shall we ignore until next week? | 16:26 |
| andymccr | i think mhayden has started his patches | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | his review are up for the first bit of work - they need attention for anyone who has a bit of time | 16:26 |
| asettle | He has indeedy | 16:26 |
| asettle | Okay, good to know. Thank you odyssey4me | 16:26 |
| asettle | #action team to review everything by mhayden | 16:26 |
| andymccr | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/security-rhel7-stig | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | the blueprint section is a bit like a parking space as a reminder :) | 16:26 |
| asettle | Noted ;) | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | not necessarily something on the agenda | 16:26 |
| asettle | I'm a meeting-holder noob. First time guys :p | 16:27 |
| asettle | On that note | 16:27 |
| asettle | #topic OpenStackussion | 16:27 |
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| asettle | HAHAHA | 16:27 |
| asettle | Okay sorry | 16:27 |
| asettle | #topic Open Discussion | 16:27 |
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| asettle | I'm so funny. | 16:27 |
| evrardjp | Indeed | 16:27 |
| asettle | evrardjp: calm your enthusiasm :p | 16:27 |
| asettle | Anyone? :) | 16:27 |
| andymccr | nothing from my side! | 16:28 |
| jmccrory | more for M-N upgrades, but if anyone has a chance to help test https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384269/ it would be appreciated | 16:28 |
| odyssey4me | just a little heads-up - the os_neutron role now has calico tests (non voting) on it... if anyone has the inclination to help logan- make it work I'm sure he'd be happy to work with you | 16:28 |
| asettle | Good stuff :) | 16:29 |
| asettle | Okay, well, on that note. I think we can call it a day super early. | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | jmccrory yep, with newton released I'd love to see us work on patterns to improve the upgrades in-role where possible | 16:29 |
| * asettle is jumping ahead of herself | 16:29 | |
| odyssey4me | asettle you're beside yourself :p | 16:29 |
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| asettle | odyssey4me: mostly laughing so much at my hilarious joke | 16:29 |
| asettle | But yep | 16:29 |
| logan- | thanks odyssey4me. seems some testing has changed in that role since i wrote the calico tests. im going to try to dig thru soon if someone doesn't beat me to it and see what changes are needed. | 16:30 |
| palendae | Well as long as you can keep yourself amused, asettle | 16:30 |
| evrardjp | jmccrory: sorry for the wrong idea about flushing handlers :p I wanted to make sure :) I'll have a look at the rest | 16:30 |
| asettle | palendae: always bro | 16:30 |
| andymccr | logan-: i'd be happy to help - i did a part of that rewrite | 16:30 |
| evrardjp | logan-: cool | 16:30 |
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| logan- | thanks andymccr | 16:30 |
| odyssey4me | logan- also happy to pitch in, seeing that I also caused some of the new chaos | 16:31 |
| jmccrory | evrardjp : no problem, thought it was a good idea. ansible just didn't want to behave | 16:31 |
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| evrardjp | logan-: I see you've got enough ppl on it :D | 16:31 |
| asettle | Good community vibe here people | 16:31 |
| evrardjp | jmccrory: I'm thinking the best way ansible would want us to work with this kind of work is playbooks | 16:31 |
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| odyssey4me | I can't help at all with networking though - just test config. :) | 16:32 |
| logan- | haha | 16:32 |
| evrardjp | but calico seems simple! | 16:32 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp sure, but then we won't be able to do it as a part of the normal operations for an install | 16:32 |
| evrardjp | odyssey4me: I don't complain about the solution, I just tell something that is expected. Just stating a fact. | 16:33 |
| evrardjp | Shipping in role is easier for collab too | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | doing it in-line in the role is great because it makes the upgrade as simple as a deploy - and also means that a minor version upgrade or a major version upgrade are no different - which is an important place to be | 16:33 |
| evrardjp | agreed | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | probably easier to develop a test scenario around too :) | 16:33 |
| logan- | looking at the agent logs it looks like an inventory issue since linuxbridge-agent and stuff are being deployed. | 16:33 |
| evrardjp | we are on the same boat you know :p | 16:34 |
| odyssey4me | logan- oh really? that may be my fault | 16:34 |
| logan- | also.. awesome we have container logs now :D | 16:34 |
| asettle | \o/ | 16:34 |
| odyssey4me | hmm, I wonder if the setenv in tox.ini from the base env are perhaps *not* being overridden for the test env | 16:35 |
| odyssey4me | let's take that to the channel | 16:35 |
| asettle | Let's! | 16:35 |
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| odyssey4me | asettle has ants | 16:35 |
| asettle | Hahhahaah | 16:35 |
| asettle | I just... you know... | 16:35 |
| asettle | This has been a wild ride guys! Again sometime ;) | 16:35 |
| odyssey4me | http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/015/319/do_you_want_ants.jpg | 16:36 |
| asettle | The truth. | 16:36 |
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| asettle | Alright poeple, let's call it quits and move discussions to the channel | 16:36 |
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| asettle | For anything important, ping andymccr and odyssey4me your friendly PTL | 16:36 |
| asettle | For more hilarious jokes, ping me. | 16:36 |
| odyssey4me | I accept gifts of whiskey. | 16:36 |
| andymccr | ok we're done here i assume :) thanks all! | 16:36 |
| asettle | Bro when don't you | 16:37 |
| asettle | #endmeeting | 16:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 13 16:37:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-10-13-16.00.html | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-10-13-16.00.txt | 16:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-10-13-16.00.log.html | 16:37 |
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| LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 13 17:01:32 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:01 |
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| LouisF | hi all | 17:02 |
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| igordcard | hi | 17:02 |
| bcafarel | hi | 17:02 |
| LouisF | hi igor | 17:02 |
| yamahata | hello | 17:02 |
| LouisF | hi | 17:02 |
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| LouisF | agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting#Agenda_for_the_Networking-SFC_Meeting_.2810.2F13.2F2016.29 | 17:03 |
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| LouisF | first up: Move to using OpenStack Client (OSC) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344920/ | 17:04 |
| LouisF | mohan is not on but I think he is still working on this | 17:05 |
| LouisF | ok next: Move api-ref to neutron-lib | 17:05 |
| LouisF | pcarver: you were going to look at this | 17:05 |
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| LouisF | moving on .. | 17:07 |
| LouisF | bcafarel: the l2agent work has merged - thanks for your work on this | 17:08 |
| igordcard | bcafarel: thanks; I've just rebased the nsh patch to it | 17:08 |
| LouisF | igordcard: great - thanks | 17:08 |
| bcafarel | LouisF: np, it was an interesting entry in the SFC | 17:09 |
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| LouisF | next: networking-sfc for Grafana dashboard https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386081 | 17:10 |
| LouisF | please review this | 17:10 |
| LouisF | next: Symmetric chain API https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308274 | 17:10 |
| LouisF | scsnow: you are working on this? | 17:11 |
| scsnow | LouisF: I've updated patchset today | 17:11 |
| scsnow | feel free to review | 17:11 |
| LouisF | scsnow: Pavel, great - all please review | 17:11 |
| LouisF | scsnow: is there another patch also? | 17:12 |
| scsnow | LouisF: another patch? | 17:12 |
| scsnow | I'm going to push validation refactoring as separate commit as Paul suggested | 17:12 |
| LouisF | scsnow: yes that's what i am referring to | 17:13 |
| scsnow | LouisF: right, going to push at the beginning of the next week | 17:13 |
| LouisF | scsnow: great looking forward to it | 17:14 |
| LouisF | scsnow: the ovs driver work for symmetric support is in progress | 17:14 |
| scsnow | LouisF: are you and cathy working on this? | 17:14 |
| LouisF | scsnow: yes likely to be ready after the summit | 17:15 |
| scsnow | LouisF: ok, cool | 17:15 |
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| LouisF | initial implementation complete but all the testing to be done | 17:16 |
| LouisF | scsnow: thanks | 17:16 |
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| LouisF | the networking-sfc/ovn driver spec also merged | 17:17 |
| LouisF | next: design session at summit | 17:17 |
| LouisF | igordcard: you suggested this would be a good opportunity to discuss future work | 17:18 |
| igordcard | LouisF: yes | 17:19 |
| LouisF | will others be at the summit? | 17:19 |
| bcafarel | I will be there | 17:20 |
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| doonhammer | I will be there | 17:20 |
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| LouisF | cathy and i will be there | 17:20 |
| igordcard | I'll be there | 17:20 |
| LouisF | ok great lets set a time to meet and go other work | 17:21 |
| LouisF | igordcard: i'd like to discuss your work on the nsh support | 17:22 |
| LouisF | igordcard: when would be a good time to discuss this? | 17:22 |
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| LouisF | you and cathy have a presentation on thurs - right? | 17:23 |
| igordcard | LouisF: you mean at the summit or before? | 17:23 |
| igordcard | LouisF: yes | 17:23 |
| LouisF | igordcard: at summit | 17:23 |
| doonhammer | louisf: Cathy and I have one on thursday too | 17:23 |
| igordcard | LouisF: I will still be around on Friday | 17:24 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: if we are around earlier in the week we can meet informally also | 17:24 |
| doonhammer | LouisF: I will be around Friday too | 17:25 |
| igordcard | LouisF: but I should be free during most of wednesday, send me an email and we'll figure out a good time to meet up | 17:25 |
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| igordcard | LouisF: yeah | 17:25 |
| LouisF | friday morning would work for me also | 17:25 |
| LouisF | igordcard: lets meet wednesday | 17:26 |
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| igordcard | alright | 17:26 |
| LouisF | ok we can set a time and meet - all welcome to join | 17:27 |
| LouisF | we will not have the usual irc meeting during the summit | 17:28 |
| LouisF | i will not be around the week after | 17:28 |
| LouisF | for next thursday's meeting are there conflicts with travel anyone? | 17:30 |
| LouisF | should we have meeting next week? | 17:30 |
| LouisF | ok will have meeting next week | 17:31 |
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| LouisF | all i have from my side - any other items to discuss? | 17:32 |
| LouisF | ok thanks all | 17:33 |
| LouisF | bye | 17:33 |
| bcafarel | till next week then, bye! | 17:33 |
| doonhammer | bye sall | 17:33 |
| LouisF | #endmeeting | 17:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 13 17:33:41 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-10-13-17.01.html | 17:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-10-13-17.01.txt | 17:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-10-13-17.01.log.html | 17:33 |
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