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| nikhil | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, s | 14:00 |
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| rosmaita | hey | 14:00 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 14:00 |
| bunting | o/ | 14:00 |
| hemanthm | o/ | 14:00 |
| nikhil | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 21 14:00:44 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| nikhil | someone has messed up the etherpad | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | hopefully not me | 14:01 |
| nikhil | all the text on info, best practices etc are gone | 14:01 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:01 |
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| croelandt | \o | 14:01 |
| itisha | o/ | 14:01 |
| nikhil | all: please try to undo your changes and see if we can recover stuff | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | definitely not me | 14:01 |
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| rosmaita | o/ | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:01 |
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| mfedosin | maybe we should use wiki for agenda? | 14:02 |
| hemanthm | nikhil: I added the alembic one yesterday | 14:02 |
| nikhil | I will try to create more reliable docs for this round | 14:02 |
| nikhil | no, let's not change the etherpad | 14:02 |
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| bunting | you can rewind bits | 14:02 |
| bunting | I just added it all back | 14:02 |
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| nikhil | and wiki needs lot of updating and is inaccessible for those who don't have account (new accounts suspended) | 14:02 |
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| kairat | o/ | 14:03 |
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| nikhil | bunting: you using the history/timeslider? | 14:03 |
| bunting | yeah, i just copied it | 14:03 |
| bunting | pasted it in | 14:03 |
| nikhil | thanks | 14:03 |
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| hemanthm | I may have missed the 24hr deadline, will move my item | 14:03 |
| nikhil | good stuff | 14:03 |
| nikhil | in any case, I think this is a alarm for more permanant docs | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | +1 | 14:04 |
| nikhil | because the history is limited | 14:04 |
| kairat | wow, new font) | 14:04 |
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| nikhil | and next time it happens we may not be lucky | 14:04 |
| * nikhil stops his rage | 14:04 | |
| nikhil | let's move on | 14:04 |
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| nikhil | #topic Glare Updates ( mfedosin ) | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Glare Updates ( mfedosin ) (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:04 | |
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| mfedosin | hi folks | 14:04 |
| nikhil | #info agenda for today https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | hi mike! | 14:05 |
| mfedosin | last week we uploaded a set of patches on review | 14:05 |
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| mfedosin | it's working glare code that can be used in production | 14:05 |
| mfedosin | based on this code we're developing artifact types for Heat, Murano and Tosca | 14:06 |
| mfedosin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343787/ | 14:06 |
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| mfedosin | a couple of small issues were found - one file is placed in wrong commit and jsonpatch is not validated properly | 14:07 |
| mfedosin | but other things are good :) | 14:07 |
| mfedosin | all core members are added in reviewers of the code | 14:07 |
| mfedosin | so we're waiting your feedback | 14:08 |
| nikhil | excellent | 14:08 |
| mfedosin | nikhil: thanks, I know | 14:08 |
| nikhil | Thanks for the updates! | 14:09 |
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| mfedosin | maybe there are any questions? | 14:09 |
| nikhil | I hope that the team will feel free to casually disucss glare code on openstack-glance | 14:09 |
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| kairat | yeah | 14:09 |
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| kairat | we also asked about feedback about heat artifact from heat team | 14:10 |
| nikhil | especially if you need more clarifications on reivews (please link such convos eavesdrop weblink to the reviews) | 14:10 |
| kairat | I am thinking about a doc that explains some enhancements in glare that could be used by Glance | 14:11 |
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| kairat | for example, how glare treat policies | 14:11 |
| kairat | what glare did with custom locations | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | kairat: yeah, it's a good enhancement | 14:11 |
| kairat | how we implemented micro-versioning | 14:11 |
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| kairat | I think a lot of these enhancements can be easily used by Glance | 14:12 |
| nikhil | great | 14:13 |
| * nikhil waits for the document | 14:13 | |
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| kairat | for example, microversioning framework can be used by Glance IMO without big troubles | 14:13 |
| kairat | except compatibility but I am not sure | 14:13 |
| kairat | So what do you think? | 14:13 |
| mfedosin | policies as well | 14:13 |
| kairat | nikhil, ok | 14:13 |
| nikhil | we need specs for all of these :) | 14:13 |
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| nikhil | I think flaper87 wanted to adopt microversioning but I'm not sure if he's b/w | 14:14 |
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| nikhil | mircroversioning by itself may not be enough for glance, we may need to implement stuff in client and collab with osc | 14:14 |
| kairat | yep | 14:15 |
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| nikhil | anyway, I want to stop thinking ahead | 14:15 |
| kairat | server is not enough | 14:15 |
| kairat | but it is starting point | 14:15 |
| nikhil | But all of these are great ideas and definitely worth implementation. Let's just make sure we plan different priorities properly so that not everything is congested in one cycle. | 14:15 |
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| nikhil | should we move on? | 14:17 |
| mfedosin | only one question | 14:17 |
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| nikhil | mfedosin: yeas? | 14:18 |
| mfedosin | feature freeze will be next week | 14:18 |
| mfedosin | 29th of July afaik | 14:18 |
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| nikhil | mfedosin: feature frezze is NOT next week | 14:19 |
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| nikhil | #info glance project specific dates : http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/094780.html | 14:19 |
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| mfedosin | just spec freeze? | 14:19 |
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| nikhil | #action nikhil : add the dates to a permanant location (see if release team is still accepting updates) | 14:20 |
| mfedosin | oh :) | 14:20 |
| * nikhil thinks only if that thread did not start a conversation, we'd have those dates on release page | 14:20 | |
| kairat | mfedosin, it is spec freeze | 14:20 |
| mfedosin | so, that's great then | 14:20 |
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| nikhil | moving on | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | yeah there is good month to get the code reviewed ... no panic | 14:20 |
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| nikhil | #topic Nova v1, v2 updates ( nikhil ) | 14:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Nova v1, v2 updates ( nikhil ) (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:21 | |
| nikhil | #info use_glance_v1 defaults to false, glance v1 deprecated in nova, move to glance v2 to upgrade nova to ocata | 14:21 |
| nikhil | Useful links: | 14:21 |
| mfedosin | I saw there had been some issues with snapshot creation | 14:21 |
| nikhil | #link https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/11f8c1bc3ce07cb5ffe52f6dbd5d4892bfa9c4e3/nova/conf/glance.py#L51-L74 | 14:21 |
| nikhil | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/approved/deprecate-api-proxies.html | 14:21 |
| nikhil | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-nova/%23openstack-nova.2016-07-20.log.html#t2016-07-20T16:07:54 | 14:22 |
| nikhil | a related bug in snapshot creation: | 14:22 |
| nikhil | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-glanceclient/+bug/1596602 | 14:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1596602 in python-glanceclient "Instance Snapshot failure: "Unable to set 'kernel_id' to 'None'. Reason: None is not of type u'string'"" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Mike Fedosin (mfedosin) | 14:22 |
| nikhil | #startvote Should we (glance team) start v1 deprecation in Newton? (yes, no, will-get-back) | 14:23 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Should we (glance team) start v1 deprecation in Newton? Valid vote options are , yes, no, will-get-back, . | 14:23 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 14:23 |
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| nikhil | #vote yes | 14:23 |
| jokke_ | #vote yes | 14:23 |
| jokke_ | not start ... we should deprecate it in Newton as agreed | 14:23 |
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| nikhil | jokke_: yes, thanks for clarifying | 14:24 |
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| nikhil | by start, I only mean that we start the deprecation period | 14:24 |
| nikhil | which at this point seems to be 2 cycles | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328390/ | 14:24 |
| mfedosin | #vote yes | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | #vote yes | 14:24 |
| bunting | #vote yes | 14:25 |
| kairat | #vote yes | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | but i think the deprecation period also depends on replacement functionality being available, e.g., copy-from | 14:25 |
| kairat | If we deprecate this | 14:25 |
| kairat | we need to implement image refactor in two cycles | 14:25 |
| kairat | ++ to rosmaita | 14:25 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: correct, and we need to prioritize those features accordingly | 14:25 |
| kairat | what about adding this to deprecation description? | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | I don't think the image refactor has too much to do with the deprecation of v1 (specially now when our major consumers are moved to use the current v2 API) | 14:26 |
| nikhil | we need a full spec | 14:26 |
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| nikhil | we can discuss details there | 14:27 |
| kairat | ok | 14:27 |
| kairat | at least horizon has troubles with migration | 14:27 |
| kairat | AFAIK | 14:27 |
| mfedosin | and Heat | 14:27 |
| nikhil | #action nikhil: start a full spec collaboration on glance v1 deprecation | 14:27 |
| kairat | ah, yes | 14:27 |
| nikhil | yeah, I think their issues are not as complex as nova | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | yes both of them do rely on copy-from but there is workarounds for copy-from | 14:28 |
| nikhil | so, they can adopt parity features as soon as they are available | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | nova and cider were the biggest pain points and specially Nova | 14:28 |
| kairat | so it would be good for them to use our approach instead re-implementing it in other projects=) | 14:29 |
| nikhil | like I said before all the uses case behind 'copy-from' are not covered by the workaround | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | s/cider/cinder/ | 14:29 |
| * rosmaita likes cider | 14:29 | |
| kairat | heh | 14:29 |
| * nikhil is frustrated why people aren't able to digest the issues workaround creates in glance | 14:29 | |
| hemanthm | #vote yes | 14:30 |
| nikhil | ok, I'm moving on for now | 14:30 |
| nikhil | #endvote | 14:30 |
| openstack | Voted on "Should we (glance team) start v1 deprecation in Newton?" Results are | 14:30 |
| openstack | yes (7): bunting, nikhil, hemanthm, mfedosin, kairat, jokke_, rosmaita | 14:30 |
| nikhil | #topic Releases ( nikhil ) | 14:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases ( nikhil ) (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:30 | |
| nikhil | two releases this week | 14:30 |
| nikhil | #info glanceclient 2.2.0 http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2016-July/001363.html | 14:30 |
| nikhil | #info glance_store 0.14.0 http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/099660.html | 14:31 |
| nikhil | we may need to request some lib release for the docs gate job that is broken | 14:31 |
| kairat | cool! | 14:31 |
| nikhil | example for docs gate failure: http://logs.openstack.org/23/337323/3/gate/gate-glance-docs/c7bc845/ | 14:32 |
| nikhil | I did not have b/w to dig further | 14:32 |
| nikhil | so, this is email I sent to docs list http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2016-July/008899.html | 14:32 |
| nikhil | moving on | 14:33 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: is the next topic yours? | 14:33 |
| kairat | looks like somebody use + with translation messages | 14:33 |
| kairat | or with lazy strings | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | i put it on, but it's really bunting and kairat | 14:33 |
| kairat | need to dig into that | 14:33 |
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| nikhil | looks like some cinder endpoint translation | 14:33 |
| bunting | Ah its about my patch | 14:33 |
| nikhil | thanks rosmaita | 14:34 |
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| kairat | ah, that's about policies | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | yes | 14:34 |
| nikhil | #info all: please type your/interest/proposer irc nick after your topic in meeting agenda | 14:34 |
| nikhil | #topic Glance has been introducing policies to address specific use cases; Glare is using more general policies with specific use cases met by carefully constructed rules ( kairat , bunting ) | 14:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Glance has been introducing policies to address specific use cases; Glare is using more general policies with specific use cases met by carefully constructed rules ( kairat , bunting ) (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:34 | |
| * nikhil hands the mic to bunting | 14:35 | |
| kairat | So I didn't add that topic but will comment anyway =) | 14:35 |
| nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256381/ | 14:35 |
| bunting | This is about my patch to introduce the new policy delete_deactivated_image, however kairat says this could possibly be done with a complex rule | 14:35 |
| bunting | There is quite a bit of disucssion that took place on the bug | 14:36 |
| kairat | that could be done with policies AFAIK | 14:36 |
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| nikhil | I like what kairat proposed on commenton PS13 (jul 18) | 14:36 |
| kairat | so I am wondering why we need to introduce new policy instead of use existing policy functionality | 14:36 |
| nikhil | (but I haven't evaluated on why so and the consequences) | 14:37 |
| bunting | kairat: I don't really understand how we would be able to add this in our existing policies | 14:37 |
| kairat | you don't need to | 14:37 |
| bunting | since delete_image does not let a user delete another persons image | 14:37 |
| kairat | you can just provide instructions how to do that | 14:37 |
| bunting | which this patch wants to open up | 14:38 |
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| bunting | (as long as its deactivated) | 14:38 |
| kairat | so is it possible to delete with separate policy? | 14:38 |
| bunting | That's what the patch aims to do, allow a user to delete another users image if its deactivaed | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | I like that rule approach as well if that works | 14:39 |
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| bunting | The example given was a security group that does not have to be given admin | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | my concern is how complex the rules will be ... i think we will have to provide some kind of support for operators, because it will be easy to write a rule that isn't quite correct | 14:39 |
| kairat | bunting, sorry, it is not clear for me why do we need to allow another users to delete de-activated images> | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | kairat: it's a special image-cleanup crew, who aren't admins, but have the responsibility for investigating a "bad" image | 14:40 |
| kairat | will the tenant be different? | 14:40 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: correct, we need some solid example on how to write rules | 14:40 |
| nikhil | examples* | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | the use case is that the operator doesn't want the owner to delete the "evidence" | 14:41 |
| kairat | hm, so you can do that as well with policies | 14:41 |
| kairat | I will explain that in review | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | kairat: i think you are right, it's the complexity that bothers me | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: yes, that's the use case I understood as well, now it seems to be turned around | 14:41 |
| * jokke_ goes back and looks the spec | 14:42 | |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: I think I am missing something | 14:43 |
| bunting | Ah, i see, we built upon that idea, to produce the next spec | 14:43 |
| bunting | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309346/ | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | so the lite-spec discusses about permitting user deleting the image it owns but is deactivated | 14:43 |
| bunting | I merged them in my head | 14:43 |
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| rosmaita | jokke_: current situation: owner can delete a deactivated image | 14:43 |
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| jokke_ | rosmaita: yes | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | bunting's patch: introduce a policy to govern that | 14:44 |
| kairat | bunting, that's also can be covered with policies AFAIU | 14:44 |
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| jokke_ | rosmaita: and the lite-spec that the change is referring to addresses that specific case | 14:44 |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: kairat : can we talk tradeoffs? (rather than what we can and cannot do) | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | yeah, the lite-spec allows you to restrict who can delete a deactivated image if you like | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | well, the tradeoff is: policy-per-action: easy for ops to configure | 14:45 |
| kairat | nikhil, IMO it is better to provide a guide and not support them | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | downside is pain for devs | 14:45 |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: kairat : just that the policy remains upstream for us to consider another use case while developing? | 14:45 |
| kairat | we can also provide some default rules by default that can be used by ops for convinience | 14:45 |
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| jokke_ | I'm any day willing to trade dev pain to user ease | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | i was thinking some kind of "policy cookbook" | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | but we would have to have tests to go with the policies to guarantee them | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: ++ | 14:47 |
| nikhil | I think jokke_ meant 'for user ease' (based on knowing his intentions from prior conversations) | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | and maybe we should wait for the policy yaml stuff, not sure when that is happening in oslo | 14:47 |
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| kairat | additionally, I would like to have default policies in code before introducing new policies | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | kairat: ++ | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | worst case scenario is that we offer policy rule to address usecase X and 3 months later we change the code invalidating that rule but don't catch it | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | we need to do something like: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/policy-in-code | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | nikhil: indeed | 14:47 |
| kairat | +100500 | 14:48 |
| kairat | to rosmaita =) | 14:48 |
| kairat | Glare did that without big troubles | 14:48 |
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| mfedosin | also kairat implemented it in glare | 14:48 |
| nikhil | how bad is the need for this change? | 14:48 |
| mfedosin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292327/48/glance/common/glare/policy.py | 14:48 |
| bunting | But does that only change the default, which is slightly different problem? | 14:48 |
| mfedosin | we can use it as example | 14:49 |
| bunting | since a cookbook would have multiple | 14:49 |
| nikhil | changing policy behavior is literally changing core of glance | 14:49 |
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| * nikhil thinks that should be carefully vetted rather than copied from other places | 14:50 | |
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| kairat | with policy-in-code we do not change anything | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | _if_ we agree on need to do some heavy refactoring on our policy code before facilitating, I'd propose to investigate the use of the rules to work around instead of adding stuff to our policies we need to refactor (and potentially break doing so) | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | i think that's why kairat brought it up ... we will have to support all the old policies, so we should be careful about adding new onew | 14:50 |
| nikhil | == jokke_ | 14:50 |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: I am still dubious on the 'requirement' piece | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: how do you mean? | 14:51 |
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| nikhil | we are proposing heavy changes when glance is already bogged down with even more important and pressing ones | 14:51 |
| kairat | additionally, users now have possibility to control behavior for de-activated images | 14:51 |
| kairat | so do we need to introduce one more approach for that for convenience only now | 14:52 |
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| kairat | I mean if somebody would need that we can provide a doc as alternative | 14:52 |
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| nikhil | in any case, I think the whys (use cases) that trigger this level of change need to be written down | 14:53 |
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| kairat | nikhil, yep, agree | 14:53 |
| nikhil | I like to think from source and I am a bit confused on the value addition | 14:53 |
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| nikhil | source == requirement giving birth to this change | 14:54 |
| nikhil | anyway, let's continue in open discussion | 14:54 |
| nikhil | #topic open discussion | 14:54 |
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| kairat | alembic? | 14:54 |
| kairat | hemanthm, ^ | 14:54 |
| nikhil | hemanthm: you can start today and let's see if we can continue later | 14:54 |
| hemanthm | yep | 14:54 |
| hemanthm | In the last meeting, we discussed adopting expand/contract style for glance migrations. | 14:55 |
| hemanthm | Looking further it appears that we may have to move to alembic from sqlalchemy-migrate. | 14:55 |
| hemanthm | And, here's why. | 14:55 |
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| hemanthm | Splitting migrations into expand and contract essentially results in two parallel migrations streams. | 14:55 |
| jokke_ | the midcycle Glare session is up and available https://youtu.be/FgbgiaAFGxE | 14:55 |
| hemanthm | We currently keep just one migration stream that's maintained with a numeric prefix to the migration file. | 14:55 |
| hemanthm | Once we split the migrations, we need to maintain two such streams, which isn't possible with sqlalchemy-migrate. | 14:55 |
| hemanthm | Or let's just say sqlalchemy isn't designed for it. | 14:55 |
| kairat | jokke_, cool! | 14:55 |
| hemanthm | *sqlalchemy-migrate I mean | 14:55 |
| hemanthm | So, I was wondering if anyone of you here has experience working with alembic and can | 14:55 |
| hemanthm | #1 confirm that my assessment is correct | 14:55 |
| hemanthm | #2 comment on alembic in general and it's suitability for Glance | 14:55 |
| nikhil | jokke_: I will add that to the midcycle page (if you dont' mind) | 14:55 |
| jokke_ | nikhil: go for it | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | nikhil: it's up there so people can watch it/refer to it | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | hemanthm: would that be introducing alembic as extra for migrations or replacing sqlalchemy? | 14:57 |
| hemanthm | jokke_: replacing | 14:57 |
| nikhil | jokke_: do you have the recording for specs discussion too? | 14:57 |
| hemanthm | spoke to Mike Bayer as well, he thinks alembic is the way forward (just FYI) | 14:57 |
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| kairat | Unfortunately, I didn't have time to dig into alembic a lot | 14:58 |
| hemanthm | Neutron already uses alembic | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | nikhil: hopefully tonight ... needs bit more work still | 14:58 |
| mfedosin | hemanthm: I vote for alembic | 14:58 |
| kairat | but from what I heard a lot of projects use it | 14:58 |
| nikhil | well, I am skeptical on taking word of a single person | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | nikhil: will send both links to the ML when they are up | 14:58 |
| mfedosin | kairat: yes, and they like it | 14:58 |
| nikhil | hemanthm: I think this calls for a openstack-dev [all] discussion | 14:58 |
| nikhil | (on ML) | 14:58 |
| hemanthm | nikhil: that's just FYI | 14:59 |
| hemanthm | not saying we should do it on his word | 14:59 |
| nikhil | hemanthm: cool | 14:59 |
| jokke_ | Personally I think, if we need to move away from sqlalchemy, that's definitely out of the table for Newton | 14:59 |
| nikhil | 30 seconds to go | 14:59 |
| nikhil | == jokke_ | 14:59 |
| hemanthm | jokke_: +1 that's my concern too | 14:59 |
| jokke_ | We have lots of things that are not done in time already | 14:59 |
| hemanthm | although I put up a change and we can take a call | 15:00 |
| kairat | I heard from guys who tried to build glance on containers that they had troubles with sqlalchemy-migrate | 15:00 |
| kairat | so I am for alembic too | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | hemanthm: happy to -2 it ;) | 15:00 |
| nikhil | we're out of time | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | for newton | 15:00 |
| nikhil | let's continue next week ( hemanthm ) | 15:00 |
| hemanthm | jokke_: sure, I'm used to it now :P | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | goodie | 15:00 |
| nikhil | thanks all for joining! | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | thanks all! | 15:00 |
| nikhil | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:00 | |
| kairat | thanks | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 21 15:00:45 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-07-21-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| hemanthm | thanks | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-07-21-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-07-21-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| mhayden | #startmeeting OpenStack-Ansible | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 21 16:00:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mhayden. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| mhayden | #topic Roll call | 16:00 |
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| odyssey4me | o/ | 16:00 |
| odyssey4me | I may need to leave early, so please excuse me when I do. | 16:00 |
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| stevelle | o/ | 16:00 |
| eil397_ | o/ | 16:00 |
| jmccrory | o/ | 16:00 |
| cloudnull | o/ | 16:00 |
| automagically | o/ | 16:01 |
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| prometheanfire | o/ | 16:02 |
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| andymccr | o/ | 16:03 |
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| mhayden | woot, i think we have a good group here | 16:03 |
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| mhayden | #topic Action items | 16:03 |
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| mhayden | the only action item was for odyssey4me to mail the list about the mascot, and that appears to be going well | 16:04 |
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| mhayden | since mascots are on the topics list, i guess we could take a few minutes now to talk that over | 16:04 |
| mhayden | #topic OSA Mascot | 16:04 |
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| mhayden | i was hoping to use d34dh0r53 as the mascot, but alas, that breaks the rules ;) | 16:05 |
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| odyssey4me | we need to agree on the final list | 16:05 |
| michaelgugino | hi all | 16:05 |
| eil397_ | am i right that "yak" in modern english related to it has some negative connatation ? | 16:05 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, yak shaving is not a positive thing | 16:05 |
| eil397_ | s\related to it\related to IT\g | 16:05 |
| mhayden | original email thread: | 16:05 |
| mhayden | #link https://openstack.nimeyo.com/90412/openstack-dev-openstack-ansible-project-mascot?qa_q=openstack-ansible+mascot&show=90412#q90412 | 16:05 |
| eil397_ | : - ) ok | 16:05 |
| automagically | eil397_: Can be used as a synonym for vomiting | 16:05 |
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| cloudnull | im partial to the "Osa Eucharitid" :) | 16:06 |
| cloudnull | but not against the Cape Buffalo | 16:06 |
| michaelgugino | Palm tree. It's the beach, you're taking it easy. OSA gives you more time to visit the beach, because you're not deploying openstack. | 16:07 |
| mhayden | that Cape Buffalo looks good, means business | 16:07 |
| odyssey4me | heh, happy with a palm tree too :) | 16:07 |
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| spotz | o? ate | 16:08 |
| spotz | o/ late even:) | 16:08 |
| andymccr | how many do we need for the list? | 16:08 |
| mhayden | do we have an etherpad started for this? | 16:08 |
| odyssey4me | andymccr 3-5 | 16:09 |
| eil397_ | Osa looks cool - http://www.petsfoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Insect-Life1.jpg | 16:09 |
| michaelgugino | watcher submitted top 4, to account for duplicates and ones that might violate the rules. | 16:09 |
| odyssey4me | no need for an etherpad, this meeting log is record which I'll use | 16:09 |
| odyssey4me | but you can etherpad if you like | 16:09 |
| odyssey4me | I gotta run - bbl | 16:09 |
| spotz | mascot http://www.abbeyroaddals.com/images/hippiecatch.jpg !!! | 16:09 |
| spotz | later odyssey4me | 16:09 |
| jmccrory | i like the osa bug | 16:09 |
| michaelgugino | most projects are picking animals I think, so I'm partial to something that's not an animal. | 16:09 |
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| mhayden | jmccrory: that osa bug looks like the insect version of the cape buffalo | 16:10 |
| automagically | I most definitely do not have strong opinions on the matter | 16:10 |
| eil397_ | mhayden: right : - ) | 16:10 |
| cloudnull | ^ i also like that suggestion. | 16:10 |
| mhayden | perhaps we could use a peacock, automagically? :) | 16:10 |
| cloudnull | michaelgugino: re: not doing what everyone else is | 16:11 |
| automagically | mhayden: Go for it, a bird, a bug, a buffalo….whatevs | 16:11 |
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| andymccr | im with automagically, no strong opinions really. | 16:11 |
| eil397_ | we can have one animal in list , one isect, one tree and... | 16:12 |
| mhayden | can someone toss that stuff into an etherpad so we can vote and move things around? | 16:12 |
| eil397_ | s\isect\insect\g | 16:12 |
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| andymccr | all the suggestions that are being put forward seem appropriate - and we need a list of 3-5 so may as well submit them unless there are major issues with any of those. | 16:13 |
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| mhayden | odyssey4me: got what you need here? :) | 16:14 |
| d34dh0r53 | How about a camel since TMTOWTDI is possible with OSA? | 16:14 |
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| stevelle | As a last oddball suggestion, I'll throw out the Chanterelle as a mascot | 16:15 |
| spotz | heeheh | 16:16 |
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| cloudnull | stevelle: thats a good one | 16:16 |
| spotz | +1 | 16:16 |
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| mhayden | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-mascot | 16:16 |
| spotz | mhayden: You left off the dog!:) | 16:17 |
| d34dh0r53 | lol | 16:18 |
| mhayden | oops | 16:18 |
| mhayden | okay, can we move to the next topic for now? | 16:18 |
| automagically | yes pleasew | 16:18 |
| mhayden | haha okay | 16:18 |
| mhayden | #topic wsgi vs uwsgi and Apache vs nginx role consistency | 16:18 |
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| mhayden | stevelle / cloudnull / odyssey4me: take it away! | 16:19 |
| stevelle | Sure | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | back | 16:20 |
| stevelle | We had a bit of discussion in the irc channel this week about this blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/keystone-uwsgi | 16:20 |
| stevelle | It was inspired by a change automagically proposed to fix Aodh. Upstream changed the way the API service is started. | 16:20 |
| automagically | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344555/ | 16:21 |
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| automagically | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343918/ | 16:21 |
| stevelle | To fix Aodh automagically proposed to run aodh-api under mod_wsgi with Apache, which conforms to how we run other wsgi services in OpenStack | 16:21 |
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| stevelle | All of those are run that way because this used to be the recommended means of running Keystone | 16:21 |
| stevelle | particularly important with Federation | 16:22 |
| stevelle | The Keystone community has changed their recommendation as noted in the blurprint | 16:22 |
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| cloudnull | stevelle: do we know if we lose our federation capabilities by moving away from what we curerntly have? | 16:23 |
| stevelle | We seemed to agree in IRC at the time that we would like the WSGI apps to run similarly, so if we change Keystone away from Apache / mod_wsgi, we want to look at changing the others (Horizon, Gnocchi, Aodh in this case) | 16:23 |
| stevelle | cloudnull: I don't know, haven't investigated that yet. | 16:23 |
| cloudnull | ok | 16:23 |
| automagically | Until we know if federation works, I think we should table moving all the roles to uwsgi | 16:24 |
| michaelgugino | I think it's worth investigating, but I don't know if it's appropriate for this cycle. | 16:24 |
| cloudnull | +1 | 16:24 |
| automagically | i.e. I’d rather be consistent for the time being | 16:24 |
| stevelle | I did a proof of concept for running aodh-api under uwsgi just so we could look at it. | 16:24 |
| stevelle | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/keystone-uwsgi | 16:24 |
| stevelle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344555/ | 16:24 |
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| stevelle | The PoC failed in the integrated gate due to the general merge issues. | 16:26 |
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| andymccr | id love to see all openstack api services using wsgi/uwsgi in a uniform way and not just these few - that's not really how it is right now though. | 16:26 |
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| stevelle | +1 but for Aodh and Gnocchi particularly they won't run under Werkzeug | 16:27 |
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| stevelle | Horizon also | 16:28 |
| andymccr | sounds good to standardize esp if keystone have changed their recommendation | 16:28 |
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| michaelgugino | yes, uwsgi outperforms gevent/gunicorn/whatever they're using handily. | 16:28 |
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| mhayden | so it sounds like we've agreed that standardizing on uwsgi across the board makes sense? | 16:29 |
| automagically | andymccr: I agree, but I think the question is how long to do we think it takes to get standardized across horizon, gnocchi, aodh, keystone | 16:29 |
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| michaelgugino | as a long term goal, but I don't think it's appropriate for this cycle. We're a little far in, and I think we need to give greater attention to other areas, specifically Xenial and CentOS | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | mhayden where possible, yes - but the caution is that if it's not in by N3 or we don't think we can do it by N3 then it must carry over to the next cycle | 16:29 |
| stevelle | based on the proposed change, it doesn't seem like it will be much of a challenge to move over the four. | 16:29 |
| mhayden | odyssey4me: sounds good | 16:30 |
| automagically | assuming that federation support can be maintained in keystone | 16:30 |
| mhayden | #agreed Should begin using uwsgi wherever possible -- if not available by Newton-3, it needs to happen in O | 16:30 |
| automagically | Do we have any gate checks around federation that can ensure we don’t break it? | 16:30 |
| odyssey4me | automagically nope | 16:30 |
| automagically | More short term, how do we want to unblock the aodh role gate? | 16:31 |
| stevelle | With the uncertainty around federation, I'm inclined to say we should evaluate https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343918/ | 16:32 |
| automagically | And Newton-3 is 8/1 correct? | 16:32 |
| automagically | Sorry, its 9/1 | 16:33 |
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| cloudnull | stevelle: +1 | 16:33 |
| andymccr | sounds like a good idea then we can evaluate a more long term approach later. | 16:34 |
| cloudnull | the aodh gate needs to be unblocked. | 16:34 |
| automagically | stevelle: +1 and michaelgugino +1 on needing to focus on Xenial | 16:34 |
| automagically | So it sounds like we are decided | 16:34 |
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| stevelle | I'm probably not going to have time to do the development for all of the above including resolving federation by Aug 1, so seems clear to me | 16:35 |
| mhayden | #agreed Unblock the aodh gate first, then worry about a long term approach later | 16:35 |
| michaelgugino | +1 | 16:35 |
| stevelle | seems dangerous to expect it to be correct and merged by Sept 1 | 16:35 |
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| stevelle | next topic? | 16:36 |
| automagically | So, michaelgugino brought up Xenial, I’m having a hard time seeing the big picture on what work remains there | 16:36 |
| mhayden | stevelle: woot | 16:36 |
| mhayden | #topic Mid-cycle planning | 16:36 |
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| automagically | Can we #topic Xenial to-do list? | 16:36 |
| mhayden | automagically: sure, i can do that next | 16:37 |
| automagically | Awesome! | 16:37 |
| mhayden | the meeting room is still good to go for the mid-cycle | 16:37 |
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| mhayden | the agenda is in the etherpad | 16:37 |
| michaelgugino | is there an event bright or anything for the midcycle? | 16:37 |
| mhayden | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-midcycle-newton | 16:37 |
| mhayden | michaelgugino: not at the moment | 16:37 |
| odyssey4me | michaelgugino nope, just the etherpad | 16:37 |
| palendae | mhayden, Could you add the meeting room into the etherpad? | 16:38 |
| mhayden | however, i need to make sure i have an accurate list so i can send the names down to our physical security folks | 16:38 |
| mhayden | palendae: sure | 16:38 |
| cloudnull | from what i can tell we need to do rally, babican, and zaqar to make xenial fully supporte.d | 16:38 |
| spotz | michaelgugino: I'm going to make some eventbrites for dinners and put the links on the etherpad | 16:38 |
| cloudnull | i've been deploying the integrated gate w/ xenial for a while now and it seems to work well. | 16:38 |
| mhayden | palendae: added | 16:38 |
| michaelgugino | I added my name as tentative, I should know by next week if I'm going, I don't think I'll have a problem getting the travel approved, but we'll see :) | 16:38 |
| palendae | Speaking of our physical security: pokemon go is banned in the Castle, for those non-Rackers coming | 16:38 |
| michaelgugino | omg | 16:39 |
| mhayden | haha | 16:39 |
| cloudnull | hahaha | 16:39 |
| automagically | palendae: Well, than I better cancel my trip | 16:39 |
| palendae | Don't get kicked out for something silly :) | 16:39 |
| mhayden | okay, well please everyone make sure your name is in there | 16:39 |
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| mhayden | #topic Xenial to-do list | 16:39 |
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| cloudnull | michaelgugino: once the intgrated gate is unblocked it'd be great to get more testers on xenial things | 16:40 |
| michaelgugino | yeah, I think we need more manual testing, lots of code paths not checked by default (like OVS, DVR) etc | 16:40 |
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| mhayden | cloudnull: i can try out xenial on some of my lab boxes | 16:40 |
| cloudnull | -- from what i can tell we need to do rally, babican, and zaqar to make xenial fully "supported". | 16:40 |
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| odyssey4me | michaelgugino OVS testing is on by default for the os_neutron role right now | 16:41 |
| automagically | Since those are non-integrated roles, do we let them slide if they are not done? | 16:41 |
| cloudnull | -- i've been deploying the integrated gate w/ xenial for a while now and it seems to work well. but to michaelgugino point there are some manual code paths that need to be exercised. | 16:41 |
| mhayden | brb in a sec | 16:41 |
| automagically | And barbican looks to be done: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/341761/ | 16:41 |
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| cloudnull | awesome. | 16:41 |
| michaelgugino | that's good about OVS. But yeah, just saying generally, I'm not up to date on all the different configurations. Swift comes to mind, I know we're not checking all of the backing stores | 16:42 |
| * cloudnull moves card | 16:42 | |
| odyssey4me | yeah, primary focus is on the integrated roles - secondary focus are the role we want to integrate this cycle | 16:42 |
| odyssey4me | michaelgugino the roles have the ability to do multiple scenario tests now, just like the neutron role | 16:42 |
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| cloudnull | cloudkitty is another one i'd like to see if we could optinally enable, similar to ironic. | 16:42 |
| automagically | So should we have an action item to make sure that https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-newton-ubuntu16-04 is up to date | 16:43 |
| odyssey4me | all it takes is a change to tox config, then an addition of the jobs in infra | 16:43 |
| odyssey4me | so if you want to test more paths, please go ahead and add the tox config to make it happen | 16:43 |
| michaelgugino | you mean add another tox environment? | 16:43 |
| odyssey4me | we have experimental checks for xenial/centos in the integrated repo | 16:43 |
| odyssey4me | due to the master branch brokenness I haven't manage to figure out whether it's working very well - because it works slightly differently | 16:44 |
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| odyssey4me | ie it uses tox | 16:44 |
| automagically | #action automagically update xenial etherpad status | 16:46 |
| automagically | #action mhayden test Xenial in his lab | 16:46 |
| mhayden | automagically: that'd be most excellent | 16:46 |
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| mhayden | indeedy | 16:46 |
| mhayden | the lab needs a reimage anyway | 16:46 |
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| odyssey4me | michaelgugino yes, either adapt the existing test to make it test more... or add a new tox env for a different test entirely | 16:46 |
| automagically | Sounds like we have an action around figuring out the integrated gate issues for xenial | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | michaelgugino I would suggest trying to pipeline tests as far as possible, and only using multiple tox environments where the environments are structurally different | 16:47 |
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| michaelgugino | odyssey4me: is there an example, you mentioned OVS in neutron? | 16:48 |
| mhayden | is there a plan to get a OSA integrated gate running on xenial? | 16:48 |
| odyssey4me | michaelgugino https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron/commit/eb0bb51fafa01926a0d13021a1f97c333bbdabd8 | 16:48 |
| odyssey4me | mhayden there is already an experimental check | 16:48 |
| mhayden | (about 11 minutes left in the meeting -- just a warning) | 16:48 |
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| odyssey4me | I'm not convinced yet that it's working because since implementing it the integrated gate has not been passing frequently. | 16:49 |
| michaelgugino | that looks a little complicated, so I'll have to take some time to look it over. | 16:49 |
| odyssey4me | so I'm waiting for that storm to blow over. | 16:49 |
| automagically | michaelgugino: Would definitely appreciate your review of that | 16:50 |
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| odyssey4me | I can see some tox config optimisations which can be done now that it's in. | 16:50 |
| odyssey4me | I'll drop a patch shortly. | 16:50 |
| michaelgugino | ok, I've been a little busy recently, but I'm planning on getting back into the full swing here at OSA, more reviews, bugs, etc. Just been a really busy month or so. :) | 16:51 |
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| mhayden | #topic Open floor | 16:53 |
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| mhayden | anyone have anything else to discuss? | 16:53 |
| mhayden | only a few minutes left | 16:53 |
| cloudnull | so i've noticed something with regard to gate testing like crazy. IDK if this is just me, but when I have callback plugins enabled the run is notably slower. | 16:54 |
| cloudnull | Example http://cdn.pasteraw.com/gybn3gfnnum767fvnzbed2oyax66rxs | 16:54 |
| cloudnull | thats just rerunning the keystone play on an already deployed cluster. | 16:54 |
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| cloudnull | I know we "use" them in the gate, but it wouls seem disabling them would be to our benifit in terms of testing speed. | 16:55 |
| michaelgugino | I promised a nova-lxd patch last week. I have it cut locally, but installing from pip doesn't work because they haven't published a newton package in pypi yet, so I need to install from source. | 16:55 |
| automagically | ouch - time for some profiling | 16:55 |
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| michaelgugino | but, it's coming, I am working on it. Next week is looking good (on travel this week) | 16:56 |
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| odyssey4me | cloudnull I think we should kill the profiling callback | 16:56 |
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| odyssey4me | it's actually annoying that it only reports the top 10 tasks | 16:56 |
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| cloudnull | the human readable one as well. | 16:57 |
| automagically | Thanks to all of you who have been reviewing the long list of patchs for https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:bp/multi-rabbitmq-clusters | 16:57 |
| automagically | Really appreciate it | 16:57 |
| cloudnull | i mean we use it . | 16:57 |
| jmccrory | i've also seen fact_caching cause a lot of problems in local deployments, lots of random slow downs. i'm wondering if that's causing some of the randomness of simple tasks to take 60+ seconds | 16:57 |
| mhayden | why don't we remove both callbacks and see how the gate looks after? | 16:57 |
| cloudnull | but it causes a delay in processing | 16:57 |
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| odyssey4me | maybe for the gate we should disable fact caching? | 16:58 |
| mhayden | okay, let's take the caching/callback discussion to #openstack-ansible and close this thing up | 16:58 |
| mhayden | thanks everyone! | 16:58 |
| cloudnull | jmccrory: I too have been looking into that. I think a lot of those random slow downs are due to the ansible "smart" transport | 16:58 |
| mhayden | #endmeeting | 16:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 21 16:58:28 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-07-21-16.00.html | 16:58 |
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| cloudnull | cheers. | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-07-21-16.00.txt | 16:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-07-21-16.00.log.html | 16:58 |
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| LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 21 17:00:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:00 |
| LouisF | hi all | 17:00 |
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| Bali_Bao | Hi Louise and all, I'm Bali, from IBM of Chain (SH), and this is my first time IRC meeting with SFC, hoping I can do something here. | 17:01 |
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| LouisF | welcome Bali_Bao | 17:01 |
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| yamahata | hello | 17:01 |
| fsunaval | Hi | 17:02 |
| LouisF | hi | 17:02 |
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| LouisF | Bali_Bao: thanks for the reviews of the sfc-ovn driver spec https://review.openstack.org/333172 | 17:03 |
| doonhammer | hi all | 17:04 |
| LouisF | ok here is agenda for today's meeting | 17:04 |
| LouisF | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting#.5BProposed.5D_Agenda_for_the_Networking-SFC_Meeting_.287.2F21.2F2016.29 | 17:04 |
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| LouisF | #topic Move to using OpenStack Client (OSC) | 17:04 |
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| Bali_Bao | LouiseF: welcome, and thanks for your explanations to many of my "stupid" questions :D | 17:05 |
| LouisF | Bali_Bao: np | 17:05 |
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| LouisF | mohankumar__: how is the work on OSC? | 17:05 |
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| LouisF | mohankumar__: are you on? | 17:06 |
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| LouisF | ok moving on | 17:07 |
| LouisF | #topic Remove the agent_opts for encap which comes from the config | 17:07 |
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| LouisF | scsnow_: you were going to work on this | 17:08 |
| LouisF | movin on | 17:09 |
| LouisF | #topic API reference review | 17:10 |
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| LouisF | this ia a patch for the API reference that will be available on docs.openstack.org | 17:11 |
| LouisF | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319393 | 17:11 |
| LouisF | there has been some review | 17:11 |
| LouisF | please review as I want this merged | 17:12 |
| LouisF | paul and vikram have reviewed | 17:12 |
| LouisF | ok moving on | 17:13 |
| LouisF | #topic Add port-pair-group param | 17:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Add port-pair-group param (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:13 | |
| LouisF | george wang was working on this | 17:14 |
| LouisF | any progress to report? | 17:14 |
| LouisF | looks like george is not on call | 17:14 |
| LouisF | #topic Tempest Test suite | 17:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest Test suite (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:15 | |
| mohankumar__ | Hi LouisF , Sorry my internet connection not stable.... about osc work , Testing cli codes , wip patch already up with sfc client plugin | 17:15 |
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| LouisF | mohankumar__: great, what is link to patch? | 17:16 |
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| s3wong | hello | 17:17 |
| s3wong | sorry, late | 17:17 |
| LouisF | mohankumar__: add cathy and me as reviewers | 17:17 |
| mohankumar__ | LouisF: not handy ... it listed in networking-sfc topic | 17:17 |
| LouisF | s3wong: hi | 17:17 |
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| LouisF | mohankumar__: ok we will review | 17:17 |
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| LouisF | please review OSC patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344920/ | 17:18 |
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| mohankumar__ | LouisF: thanks | 17:19 |
| fsunaval_ | hi | 17:19 |
| LouisF | mohankumar__: thanks | 17:19 |
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| LouisF | fsunaval_: hi | 17:19 |
| LouisF | back to Tempest testing | 17:20 |
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| LouisF | there is a patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321870/ | 17:20 |
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| LouisF | i think george wang was also doing some work here | 17:21 |
| LouisF | ok moving on | 17:22 |
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| LouisF | #topic ovs agent renaming | 17:23 |
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| LouisF | we had discussion last week on this without resolution | 17:23 |
| LouisF | fsunaval_: were you able to find a solution for this? | 17:24 |
| fsunaval_ | LouisF: Yes, it is on my plate. After discussing with Raofei and Cathy, we believe the best bet is to move to rewrite the code using the L2 agent extensions. | 17:24 |
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| fsunaval_ | Even if the quick approach of renaming it works (and so far we are having issues), at some point or the other we will have to move to the L2 agent extensions. | 17:24 |
| fsunaval_ | Might as well do it now. | 17:25 |
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| LouisF | fsunaval_: thanks sounds like the best approach | 17:25 |
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| LouisF | fsunaval_: how much work in required? | 17:25 |
| fsunaval_ | LouisF: I'd say about 3 weeks including testing. | 17:26 |
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| LouisF | fsunaval_: ok thanks | 17:26 |
| LouisF | #topic NSH encap work | 17:27 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: how is this work progressing? | 17:27 |
| igordcard | tomorrow I will have an initial patch with the SFP code refactored | 17:27 |
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| igordcard | without updated tests, so it will be marked as WIP but you will be able to fetch and try | 17:28 |
| LouisF | igordcard: great, we will review it | 17:28 |
| igordcard | after that I'll start enabling NSH | 17:28 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: what ovs patches for nsh are you working with? | 17:29 |
| igordcard | any changes to the agent I will base them on the old agent for now, and then we can adapt to the rewrite | 17:29 |
| LouisF | igordcard: ok | 17:29 |
| igordcard | LouisF: I will work with these https://github.com/yyang13/ovs_nsh_patches from 2 weeks ago | 17:29 |
| igordcard | eth+nsh only for now | 17:29 |
| LouisF | igordcard: right | 17:30 |
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| LouisF | #topic bug scrub | 17:31 |
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| LouisF | https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bugs?orderby=importance&start=0 | 17:32 |
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| LouisF | there are several marked as in progress | 17:32 |
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| LouisF | Switch OVS agent to l2 agent extension https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/1586024 | 17:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1586024 in networking-sfc "Switch OVS agent to l2 agent extensions" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Bernard Cafarelli (bcafarel) | 17:34 |
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| fsunaval_ | LouisF: you can assign it to me. | 17:35 |
| LouisF | this is marked as new - I think this would covered by the ovs agent renaming | 17:35 |
| LouisF | fsunaval_: ok | 17:35 |
| fsunaval_ | also you can assign "https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/1604395" to me | 17:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1604395 in networking-sfc "SFC fails to route traffic when multiple compute nodes are involved" [Critical,Triaged] | 17:35 |
| LouisF | https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/1582476 | 17:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1582476 in networking-sfc "networking-sfc with q-agt service not running simultaneously" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 17:36 |
| LouisF | networking-sfc with q-agt service not running simultaneously | 17:37 |
| LouisF | this may be similar | 17:37 |
| fsunaval_ | yes.. | 17:37 |
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| LouisF | fsunaval_: i will assign to you for now | 17:38 |
| fsunaval_ | ok. | 17:38 |
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| fsunaval_ | I can reassign if needed. | 17:38 |
| LouisF | https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/1586729 | 17:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1586729 in networking-sfc "can not create/delete port-chain" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 17:39 |
| LouisF | i will take this | 17:39 |
| LouisF | https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/1587405 | 17:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1587405 in networking-sfc "all sfc flows gone after restart ovs agent" [Undecided,Triaged] | 17:40 |
| LouisF | i will contact Na Zhu for more info | 17:40 |
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| LouisF | ok the rest are assigned and in progress | 17:41 |
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| LouisF | #topic other items | 17:41 |
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| LouisF | any topics for discussion? | 17:42 |
| mohankumar__ | Just update heat support for sfc is going good | 17:42 |
| mohankumar__ | Portpair support already merged | 17:43 |
| igordcard | what is the port pair group param? | 17:43 |
| LouisF | mohankumar__: is there a patch for that? | 17:43 |
| mohankumar__ | LouisF: yes | 17:43 |
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| s3wong | I should have the Tacker networking-sfc driver patches out next week | 17:44 |
| s3wong | and speaking of that, I suppose we still don't have 'symmetry' support | 17:44 |
| s3wong | so I will raise 'not implemented' exception for now | 17:44 |
| LouisF | s3wong: thanks | 17:44 |
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| LouisF | s3wong: ok | 17:44 |
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| igordcard | what is the port pair group param, the first topic? | 17:45 |
| LouisF | igordcard: port pair group provides a way to add parameters to a port pair group | 17:45 |
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| LouisF | in same way as chain-parameter does for the whole chain | 17:46 |
| igordcard | right, right, thanks | 17:46 |
| s3wong | LouisF: that is for service insertion type for now, right? | 17:46 |
| mohankumar__ | LouisF: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249729/ | 17:46 |
| LouisF | s3wong: correct | 17:46 |
| LouisF | mohankumar__: thanks | 17:47 |
| LouisF | ok anything else? | 17:48 |
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| mohankumar__ | Remaining codes were queued up , hopefully by this month we complete this | 17:48 |
| LouisF | mohankumar__: thanks | 17:48 |
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| LouisF | ok thanks all - i will end here | 17:49 |
| LouisF | bye | 17:49 |
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| mohankumar__ | Bye | 17:49 |
| s3wong | bye | 17:49 |
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| LouisF | #endmeeting | 17:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:50 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 21 17:50:03 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-07-21-17.00.html | 17:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-07-21-17.00.txt | 17:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-07-21-17.00.log.html | 17:50 |
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