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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 6 08:01:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:01 |
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| ifat_afek | Hi everyone :-) | 08:02 |
| danoffek | hi guys | 08:02 |
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| idan_hefetz | Hi | 08:03 |
| nbloom | Hey | 08:03 |
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| eyalb | hi | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | I'm back after more than two weeks (Berlin summit + vacation), so I'm not fully up to date | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | will be happy to hear your updates | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:05 | |
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| idan_hefetz | I'll update in Elisha's name | 08:06 |
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| idan_hefetz | He created the stable/liberty branch lately, and should soon create the stable/mitaka brance, and we still need to tag these versions | 08:07 |
| idan_hefetz | I have began working to create a new action type to call Nova API 'force host down', and this is preogressing well | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | idan_hefetz: thanks. I think I've written a blueprint for that, not sure it fits exactly | 08:09 |
| eyalb | i will update | 08:09 |
| eyalb | there was a progress with the package review in RDO | 08:10 |
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| eyalb | it is assigned and i got some feedback on the spec file | 08:10 |
| eyalb | I also pushed all the puppet scripts for vitrage | 08:11 |
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| eyalb | and it is now merged | 08:11 |
| eyalb | still missing is the acceptance test | 08:11 |
| eyalb | which will be pushed once we have an rpm in the RDO | 08:11 |
| eyalb | thats it | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | eyalb: cool, thanks | 08:12 |
| lhartal | I have updates | 08:12 |
| lhartal | I want to update that the template show API is now available | 08:12 |
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| lhartal | by given the template uuid, you can receive the template content in JSON object | 08:13 |
| lhartal | you can get the template uuid by using the template list API | 08:14 |
| lhartal | In addition I started to work on adding support for persistent DB for vitrage | 08:15 |
| lhartal | we are using the SQLAlchemy package | 08:15 |
| lhartal | Hopefully, next week it will be completed | 08:16 |
| ifat_afek | lhartal: this is great | 08:16 |
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| nbloom | I will update about some progress I have with integrating zabbix into vitrage | 08:17 |
| nbloom | I validated getting zabbix alerts via polling into vitrage and it works, I have also tested an RCA case and it works | 08:18 |
| nbloom | I am now checking the option of getting notifications from zabbix iself, I managed to get zabbix to send out its alarms but I am still thinking as to what is the best way to receive them on vitrage's side. | 08:19 |
| nbloom | and that's it for now. | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | nbloom: great, thanks | 08:21 |
| ifat_afek | anyone else wants to update? | 08:21 |
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| danoffek | I'll update | 08:22 |
| danoffek | Started to work on heat support. | 08:23 |
| danoffek | It will be minor support though, partial data on Stacks and their resources. | 08:24 |
| danoffek | That's it | 08:24 |
| ifat_afek | danoffek: cool, heat is very important | 08:24 |
| ifat_afek | any other updates anyone? | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | moving on | 08:26 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Proposals for OpenStack Barcelona Summit | 08:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Proposals for OpenStack Barcelona Summit (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:26 | |
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| ifat_afek | We have one more week to propose Vitrage sessions to Barcelona Summit | 08:26 |
| ifat_afek | If you have an idea, that's the time to discuss it | 08:27 |
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| ifat_afek | I'll collect all ideas (will create an etherpad for it and send it to you). If you have an idea, please email it in the mailing list | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Open Discussion | 08:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:28 | |
| ifat_afek | Anything you would like to talk about? | 08:28 |
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| ifat_afek | So I guess we are done for today | 08:30 |
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| lhartal | bye :) | 08:30 |
| ifat_afek | Bye everyone | 08:30 |
| danoffek | by guys | 08:30 |
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| eyalb | bye | 08:30 |
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| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 6 08:31:16 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-07-06-08.01.html | 08:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-07-06-08.01.txt | 08:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-07-06-08.01.log.html | 08:31 |
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| acabot | #startmeeting watcher | 08:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 6 08:59:50 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is acabot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 08:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 08:59 |
| acabot | hi | 08:59 |
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| acabot | agenda for today #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#07.2F05.2F2016 | 09:00 |
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| vincentfrancoise | o/ | 09:01 |
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| dtardivel | hi | 09:01 |
| jinquan | o/ | 09:01 |
| gzhai2 | hi | 09:01 |
| acabot | hi | 09:01 |
| ostroverkhov | o/ | 09:02 |
| gzhai2 | jinquan: Not come for China bugsmash? | 09:02 |
| jinquan | gzhai2: no, :( | 09:02 |
| acabot | #topic Announcements | 09:02 |
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| acabot | #info last week to complete talk descriptions for the summit, we need 2 more speakers and description updates | 09:03 |
| acabot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Watcher_abstracts_barcelona2016 | 09:03 |
| acabot | who plans to be in Barcelona ? | 09:03 |
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| jwcroppe | bonjour | 09:04 |
| acabot | our next meeting will be the last time to join us as a speaker | 09:04 |
| dtardivel | jwcroppe: bonjour :) | 09:04 |
| acabot | jinquan : do you plan to come to spain ? | 09:05 |
| jinquan | acabot:currently , no idea | 09:06 |
| acabot | ok, did you receive an ATC pass ? | 09:06 |
| jwcroppe | acabot: 2.30 pm in India, so easy time to make today :) | 09:06 |
| jinquan | hanrong may be go | 09:06 |
| acabot | ok | 09:06 |
| acabot | hanrong : do not hesitate to add yourself as a speaker, you will get a free pass | 09:07 |
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| jinquan | acabot: we will discuss about this after irc meeting | 09:07 |
| jinquan | then we will give your the result, ok? | 09:08 |
| acabot | ok | 09:08 |
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| acabot | #info mid-cycle agenda is open for additions / sync with Nova team in progress | 09:08 |
| acabot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-watcher-midcycle | 09:08 |
| acabot | jwcroppe : please add any items you would like to discuss on IBM side | 09:09 |
| jwcroppe | #info Gave a session on Watcher in Bangalore earlier this week - told folks development/tests/etc. all welcomed | 09:09 |
| acabot | jwcroppe : great thx | 09:09 |
| acabot | jwcroppe : IBM internal session ? | 09:09 |
| jwcroppe | acabot : yes, probably 100 people in attendance | 09:10 |
| acabot | good | 09:10 |
| acabot | #info dtardivel has tested Watcher debian packages | 09:10 |
| acabot | dtardivel : do we need a doc update regarding packages ? | 09:11 |
| dtardivel | yes I tested them with a Docker container debian:experimental image | 09:11 |
| dtardivel | acabot: yes I pushed a new changeset this morning | 09:11 |
| acabot | ok thx | 09:11 |
| jwcroppe | o/ | 09:12 |
| acabot | any other announcement ? | 09:12 |
| jwcroppe | nothing here - next topic? | 09:12 |
| acabot | #topic Review Action Items | 09:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:12 | |
| acabot | first of all, as it will be a release week next week, we need more reviewers than usual | 09:13 |
| jwcroppe | acabot: +1 | 09:13 |
| acabot | we need to close as many blueprints as possible before EOW | 09:13 |
| acabot | watcher specs | 09:14 |
| tkaczynski | I'm happy to help with that | 09:14 |
| acabot | Make default Planner generic needs reviews | 09:14 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337049/ | 09:14 |
| jwcroppe | reading now - has a -1 currently | 09:14 |
| acabot | #action jed56 add a new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337049/ | 09:14 |
| vincentfrancoise | I plan on spending most of the afternoon reviewing | 09:14 |
| dtardivel | I can review it as well | 09:14 |
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| gzhai2 | I can have a look | 09:15 |
| jinquan | vincentfrancoise: the function code are ready , i will push a patch after the spec merge | 09:15 |
| acabot | vincentfrancoise dtardivel gzhai2 : I would prefer to have your contributions on code reviewing | 09:16 |
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| acabot | as theses specs are not related to newton-2 | 09:16 |
| dtardivel | acabot: ok | 09:16 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: ok | 09:16 |
| acabot | jinquan : if the code is ready, please push it for review, you dont have to wait for the final spec | 09:17 |
| gzhai2 | acabot: No problem. | 09:17 |
| jinquan | acabot:oh, i see, ok | 09:17 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: +1 | 09:17 |
| gzhai2 | acabot: I'm in China openstack bug smash, so need some time for bug fixing. | 09:17 |
| acabot | #action jinquan submit code for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337049/ | 09:17 |
| acabot | Graph model describing virtual and physical elements in a data center & Consolidation of multiple Action-plans into a single one need reviews | 09:18 |
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| acabot | but again they are not related to newton-2 so low priority | 09:18 |
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| acabot | moving to watcher | 09:18 |
| acabot | Enable strategy parameters has been merged | 09:18 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297556/ | 09:18 |
| gzhai2 | Thanks for vincent and david's review! | 09:18 |
| acabot | thx gzhai2 for your patience ;-) | 09:19 |
| acabot | Add continuously optimization needs reviews from core | 09:19 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321411/ | 09:19 |
| dtardivel | acabot: this is a great discussion about the option to use on CLI side for parameters :) | 09:19 |
| acabot | oh yes parameter name... | 09:20 |
| dtardivel | gzhai2: proposed -m, --parameters in this changeset, because -p and -P are already used. | 09:20 |
| gzhai2 | -p is used by period in future:) | 09:20 |
| acabot | why -m then ? | 09:20 |
| gzhai2 | capital options are mostly used by openstack system | 09:20 |
| dtardivel | acabot: -p option is used for now for continuous audit feature: --period. | 09:20 |
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| gzhai2 | ParaMeter | 09:20 |
| acabot | gzhai2 : lol | 09:21 |
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| vincentfrancoise | IMHO -p should be used by --parameter whereas period can be renamed -i --interval | 09:21 |
| acabot | vincentfrancoise : +1 | 09:21 |
| vincentfrancoise | it would make much more sense | 09:21 |
| dtardivel | gzhai2: Question: could we change -p, --period to -i, --interval in continuous audit feature, and -p, --parameter in audit parameter feature ? | 09:22 |
| gzhai2 | dtardivel: yes! | 09:22 |
| vincentfrancoise | good :) | 09:22 |
| dtardivel | gzhai2: yes !!! | 09:22 |
| acabot | ok can we do it quickly to avoid merge conflict before friday ? | 09:22 |
| gzhai2 | Then I'll update with '-p' | 09:22 |
| alexchadin | hi guys | 09:22 |
| alexchadin | sorry for being late | 09:23 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: hi | 09:23 |
| jinquan | alexchadin: hi | 09:23 |
| gzhai2 | acabot: I can quickly update my 2 PS: cli and doc | 09:23 |
| gzhai2 | alexchadin:hi | 09:23 |
| tkaczynski | alexchadin: hi! | 09:23 |
| dtardivel | ostroverkhov: alexchadin could you update your code to use -i, --interval option instead of -p, --period one ? | 09:23 |
| jwcroppe | speaking of CLI, will we integrate w/ the openstack CLI ? | 09:24 |
| acabot | #action gzhai2 update parameter name as -p | 09:24 |
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| tkaczynski | jwcroppe: didn't we integrate already? | 09:24 |
| vincentfrancoise | jwcroppe: yes the watcher command is also an openstack CLI one | 09:24 |
| acabot | #action ostroverkhov update interval option as -i instead of -p | 09:24 |
| jwcroppe | if we did, I missed that - ahh cool | 09:24 |
| gzhai2 | jwcroppe: it is parsed by well-known options first(almost all capital option), then our wathcer parser | 09:25 |
| acabot | jwcroppe : yes donc already | 09:25 |
| acabot | s/donc/done | 09:25 |
| jwcroppe | cool | 09:25 |
| gzhai2 | openstack command is already in watcher docs | 09:25 |
| ostroverkhov | dtardivel: yes, i'll update my code | 09:26 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel jed56 vincentfrancoise gzhai2 tpeoples review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321411/ by EOW | 09:26 |
| tkaczynski | jwcroppe: "openstack optimize == watcher" is the command I believe | 09:26 |
| dtardivel | tkaczynski: +1 | 09:26 |
| acabot | tkaczynski : thats right | 09:26 |
| vincentfrancoise | tkaczynski: yep | 09:26 |
| acabot | Add policies for API access control to watcher project needs more unit tests | 09:27 |
| jwcroppe | cool | 09:27 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334163/ | 09:27 |
| tkaczynski | btw: I also have some changes coming in watcher CLI (in review). do I need to do anything to integrate with openstack CLI or will it happen automatically? | 09:27 |
| dtardivel | acabot: hanrong pushed a new patch this morning. But some gate jobs failed.... | 09:27 |
| acabot | hanrong : can you look at it ? | 09:28 |
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| * acabot seems like hanrong is not here... | 09:28 | |
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| jinquan | she is here | 09:29 |
| vincentfrancoise | tkaczynski: basically all command are registered both against the openstack CLI and the watcher CLI so if you update one the other is for free :) | 09:29 |
| hanrong | acabot: yes, I am doing it. | 09:29 |
| acabot | #action hanrong fix gate jobs on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334163/ | 09:29 |
| tkaczynski | vincentfrancoise: +2 :) | 09:29 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel jed56 vincentfrancoise gzhai2 tpeoples review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334163/ by EOW | 09:29 |
| acabot | Uniform Airflow migration strategy implementation needs final review from core | 09:30 |
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| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324169/ | 09:30 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel jed56 vincentfrancoise gzhai2 tpeoples review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324169/ by EOW | 09:30 |
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| acabot | watcher CLI | 09:31 |
| acabot | we already talked about parameter name | 09:31 |
| tkaczynski | acabot: do we plan to merge 2 reviews for scoring module? 1 for watcher, 1 for watcher CLI | 09:31 |
| acabot | tkaczynski : as scoring engine is now newton-3, I dont ask for reviews | 09:32 |
| acabot | tkaczynski : we need to focus on code reviewing for newton-2 as the release is next week | 09:33 |
| acabot | Watcher dashboard | 09:33 |
| acabot | Add support continuously-optimization needs reviews | 09:33 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327095/ | 09:34 |
| acabot | will be merged with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321411/ | 09:34 |
| acabot | we planned to add global requirements to watcher-dashboard, anyone wants to do that ? | 09:34 |
| alexchadin | I've added python-watcherclient to global-requirements | 09:35 |
| dtardivel | acabot: I already push a changeset about global requirement for dashboard | 09:35 |
| dtardivel | pushed | 09:35 |
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| acabot | dtardivel : link ? | 09:35 |
| dtardivel | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337585/ | 09:35 |
| acabot | ok I missed this one | 09:36 |
| acabot | dtardivel : thx | 09:36 |
| dtardivel | acabot: I will propose a new patchset this afternoon to resolve failures | 09:36 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel fix issues on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337585/ | 09:37 |
| acabot | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 09:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:37 | |
| acabot | #link https://launchpad.net/watcher/+milestone/newton-2 | 09:37 |
| acabot | 4 BPs are still in review | 09:37 |
| acabot | and I would suggest to have things merged before friday EOD | 09:38 |
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| acabot | then we will have 2 days for testing next week and then submit the release | 09:38 |
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| gzhai2 | tight schedule:) | 09:39 |
| acabot | does anyone expect his BP to not met the deadline of friday EOD ? | 09:39 |
| acabot | again, we need core reviewers contribs | 09:40 |
| acabot | jwcroppe : is tpeoples back ? | 09:40 |
| jwcroppe | acabot: I've been in India for 2 weeks so I haven't talked with him. Has he been on IRC? | 09:41 |
| acabot | jwcroppe : not for our last 4 meetings I would say | 09:41 |
| jwcroppe | acabot: ok, I'll drop him a note. He may be on vacation with the US holiday | 09:41 |
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| acabot | #action acabot move triaged bugs to Newton-3 | 09:42 |
| acabot | jwcroppe : does he plan to join the mid-cycle ? | 09:42 |
| acabot | #topic Open Discussion | 09:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:43 | |
| acabot | How to deal with packaging (puppet) when updating conf parameters ? | 09:43 |
| jwcroppe | acabot: he will be there | 09:44 |
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| acabot | vincentfrancoise : did you ask danpawlik about it ? | 09:44 |
| acabot | jwcroppe : ok good | 09:44 |
| alexchadin | I'd like to discuss defining audit scope with someone | 09:44 |
| vincentfrancoise | yes after last meeting I asked him about it | 09:44 |
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| vincentfrancoise | And basically there isn't any special kind of process | 09:45 |
| vincentfrancoise | but the norm on other projects is to reference changing config options in the specs | 09:45 |
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| diga | hi | 09:45 |
| diga | sorry for joining late | 09:45 |
| jinquan | diga:hi | 09:46 |
| vincentfrancoise | but they also create bugs on their puppet repo to notify that new configuration options should be handled | 09:46 |
| diga | jinquan: hi | 09:46 |
| acabot | ok we need to be carefull about packaging when writing specs | 09:46 |
| vincentfrancoise | yep that's the thing, because it's a completely manual process | 09:46 |
| acabot | ok | 09:47 |
| jwcroppe | alexchadin: we can discuss audit scope sometime | 09:47 |
| acabot | alexchadin : what about audit scope ? | 09:47 |
| dtardivel | acabot: vincentfrancoise: I think we have to update section "Other deployer impact" to notify puppet impacts | 09:47 |
| diga | I need help on testcase, every test has got successful result at my server but when I push to gerrit, it fails | 09:47 |
| diga | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336390/ | 09:48 |
| vincentfrancoise | dtardivel: +1 | 09:48 |
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| alexchadin | In spec Vincent Mahe proposed to write BP to Heat to know whether we can work with specified resource types or not | 09:48 |
| alexchadin | Found out it this morning: http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-orchestration-v1.html#resource_type_get | 09:49 |
| vincentfrancoise | diga: we can discuss this on #openstack-watcher just after the meeting if you want | 09:49 |
| dtardivel | diga: gate-watcher-python35-nv is non voting. It will not impact the merging of your changeset | 09:49 |
| diga | dtardivel: okay | 09:49 |
| diga | vincentfrancoise: sure | 09:49 |
| vincentfrancoise | diga: actually what dtardivel is true, to not mind the python35 tests for now | 09:50 |
| acabot | alexchadin : I need to look at this spec again, it was a long time ago ;-) | 09:50 |
| jwcroppe | alexchadin: I think we'd want to align with the resource types where appropriate | 09:51 |
| alexchadin | IMHO to check whether resource is alive or not we have to use our clients module | 09:51 |
| diga | vincentfrancoise: dtardivel : thank you! we can merge the patch :) | 09:51 |
| alexchadin | acabot: I understand :) | 09:51 |
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| jwcroppe | e.g., OS::Nova::Server | 09:51 |
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| dtardivel | diga: gate-watcher-python35-nv is a new gate job push by openstack-infra, not stable for now | 09:52 |
| diga | dtardivel: okay, got it | 09:52 |
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| acabot | anything else to discuss ? | 09:53 |
| gzhai-mobl | db migration | 09:53 |
| alexchadin | jwcroppe: we can use "Show resource schema" API method to make sure we can work with this type | 09:53 |
| jwcroppe | API from which service? | 09:54 |
| alexchadin | jwcroppe: from Heat | 09:54 |
| alexchadin | jwcroppe: after that we have to check if proposed resources are alive | 09:54 |
| gzhai-mobl | if db schsma changes, need migration with alembic? | 09:54 |
| alexchadin | jwcroppe: it can be done through the watcher's clients module | 09:54 |
| diga | acabot: I want to work on BP, do we any BP I can start or contribute | 09:55 |
| jwcroppe | but do we want to have a dep on Heat for audit scope? | 09:55 |
| acabot | diga : actually I did not prioritize BPs right know as we have our mid-cycle in 10 days | 09:55 |
| alexchadin | jwcroppe: IMHO I wouldn't want to | 09:55 |
| jwcroppe | me either | 09:55 |
| alexchadin | jwcroppe: there is another way: we can use keystone to get service list | 09:56 |
| diga | acabot: ohh...kk | 09:56 |
| diga | acabot: is there any possibility I can join the mid-cycle remotely | 09:56 |
| acabot | diga : I think this one https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/automatic-triggering-audit | 09:56 |
| alexchadin | jwcroppe: but there is only service names, not list of service's resources | 09:56 |
| diga | acabot: okay, I will go through it | 09:56 |
| acabot | diga : will be quite easy to implement strating next week | 09:57 |
| jwcroppe | alexchadin: IMO we wouldn't want to use Heat APIs - my thought was that in the template you'd specify a list of the resource types to which you want audit to apply | 09:57 |
| alexchadin | jwcroppe: for example, we can't be sure if nova firewall is available | 09:57 |
| diga | acabot: okay | 09:57 |
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| acabot | diga : if you want to join remotely, please complete https://pad.b-com.com/p/watcher-open-meetings with your availability time | 09:57 |
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| diga | acabot: I will start on that BP, sure | 09:58 |
| acabot | tkaczinsky : as you will also be remote, can you add your availabilty in https://pad.b-com.com/p/watcher-open-meetings ? | 09:58 |
| jwcroppe | alexchadin: then we don't need to talk to Heat at all for audit scopes | 09:59 |
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| alexchadin | jwcroppe: Yes, after we have specified a list of resources it should be checked | 09:59 |
| acabot | diga : please assign it to yourself if you start working on it | 09:59 |
| alexchadin | jwcroppe: I agree | 09:59 |
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| diga | acabot: sure, thank you! | 09:59 |
| acabot | time to end the meeting | 09:59 |
| acabot | thank you guys | 09:59 |
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| acabot | have a good day/night | 09:59 |
| alexchadin | bye | 09:59 |
| jinquan | :) bye | 10:00 |
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| acabot | #endmeeting | 10:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 10:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 6 10:00:06 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-07-06-08.59.html | 10:00 |
| tkaczynski | acabot: ok | 10:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-07-06-08.59.txt | 10:00 |
| diga | bye' | 10:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-07-06-08.59.log.html | 10:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so who is around for the API meeting today? | 13:04 |
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| edleafe | \o | 13:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #startmeeting nova-api | 13:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 6 13:05:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaAPI | 13:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | so we are totally missing a few folks this week | 13:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu is probably at a bug smash event | 13:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague is on holiday, I think | 13:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic API Priorities | 13:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "API Priorities (Meeting topic: nova-api)" | 13:06 | |
| johnthetubaguy | now the agenda has lots of notes, lets check whats new | 13:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/policy-in-code | 13:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | some good progress with policy | 13:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so alex pinged me about a bunch of new code | 13:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | just trying to find it | 13:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/deprecate-api-proxies | 13:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, lots going on | 13:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Open Discussion | 13:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: nova-api)" | 13:09 | |
| johnthetubaguy | so there are some things in the agenda | 13:09 |
| * johnthetubaguy alaski added this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305369/3 | 13:09 | |
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| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: about the proxy deprecation | 13:10 |
| edleafe | it's set up so that each patch is removing one thing | 13:10 |
| edleafe | and then the final bumps the microversion | 13:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I think thats the intent | 13:11 |
| edleafe | is that OK? mriedem doesn't think so, and I'm not sure either | 13:11 |
| edleafe | IOW, when the first few merge, master will be in a weird state | 13:11 |
| edleafe | and if another microversion bump merges, then those early ones will be wrong | 13:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, it is funky | 13:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | my personal preference is we review them separately, then if need to a final squash before merge | 13:12 |
| edleafe | I know "small is better" with patches, but this is one case where a single patch would be better | 13:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | better for merge, not for review really | 13:13 |
| edleafe | So... something like, get the +2s for all, but -W them | 13:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so matt blocked the first patch | 13:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | we can +W all the others, then squash them | 13:14 |
| edleafe | Then when they are all +2, remove the -W and make them +W | 13:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | just the one at the end is enough to block the follow ons | 13:14 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: true | 13:14 |
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| edleafe | I'm concerned about merging them un-squashed. The gate can make a smooth merge like that pretty uncertain | 13:15 |
| * edleafe thinks about the config option series that never merged together | 13:15 | |
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| johnthetubaguy | so I am probably being unclear | 13:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | my squash, I mean merge them all into a single patch before we merge, after having reviewed them as little chunks | 13:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | s/my/by/ | 13:16 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: I get what 'squash' means. | 13:16 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: I just wanted to make sure that that was the plan | 13:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | that was my assumption of the plan, I added a comment to ask for clarification | 13:17 |
| edleafe | IOW, we're faking a feature branch in git with a patch series in Gerrit | 13:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | yep | 13:17 |
| edleafe | ok cool | 13:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | we could do a feature branch (its supported somehow), but it seems like more effort than its worth | 13:18 |
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| * edleafe has never seen a feature branch in Gerrit | 13:18 | |
| edleafe | but that would be more intuitive for a git user | 13:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I think swift tried a few for something, I never managed to chase up how that works | 13:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | so alaski raised this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305369/ | 13:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | there is a discussion going on in there, following from a quick IRC sync up | 13:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | feel free to join in | 13:20 |
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| edleafe | ok, I hadn't seen that one yet. Added to my queue | 13:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326326/ is another one thats been added | 13:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | but I have a feeling thats now blocked by feature freeze | 13:22 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: yeah, it is | 13:22 |
| edleafe | It's trickier than it appears | 13:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I think thats what was decided yesterday | 13:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, any more for any more? | 13:23 |
| edleafe | Probably a good topic for the midcycle | 13:23 |
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| johnthetubaguy | well, its something we probably need to actually agreed in the API wg | 13:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | they have a draft, but its only partial right now | 13:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | its would be nice to get that completed, then adopt the same patterns | 13:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alex is quite correct, the sort order should be maintained between versions, I think. | 13:25 |
| edleafe | I think the sort order thing is specific to Nova; the pagination patterns are more general | 13:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, we should probably all get back to code reviews with our spare time | 13:25 |
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| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: yep | 13:25 |
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| * edleafe wonders what is the "spare time" thing? | 13:25 | |
| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: I was really meaning about the link debate | 13:25 |
| edleafe | gotcha | 13:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: its whats about to happen when I end the meeting, kinda | 13:26 |
| edleafe | :) | 13:26 |
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| johnthetubaguy | thanks all | 13:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | #endmeeting | 13:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 6 13:26:26 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-07-06-13.05.html | 13:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-07-06-13.05.txt | 13:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-07-06-13.05.log.html | 13:26 |
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| therve | #startmeeting heat | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 6 15:00:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is therve. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 15:00 |
| therve | #topic Roll call | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll call (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:00 | |
| prazumovsky | hi! | 15:00 |
| shardy | o/ | 15:00 |
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| duvarenkov | hi | 15:00 |
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| ochuprykov | hi | 15:01 |
| jdob | o/ | 15:01 |
| Drago | o/ | 15:01 |
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| skraynev | hi all | 15:01 |
| skraynev | o/ | 15:02 |
| therve | Awesome | 15:02 |
| therve | #topic Adding items to agenda | 15:02 |
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| therve | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-07-06_1500_UTC.29 | 15:03 |
| therve | Could be a short one | 15:03 |
| shardy | therve: I added https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1592374 to last weeks agenda by mistake, would be good to get an update on that | 15:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1592374 in heat "deleting in_progress stack with nested stacks fails with convergence enabled" [High,Confirmed] | 15:03 |
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| therve | shardy, Sure thing | 15:03 |
| therve | Okay | 15:04 |
| therve | #topic Gate failures | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate failures (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:04 | |
| therve | So our success rate is still pretty abysmal in my experience | 15:04 |
| therve | Recent culprit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1534026 | 15:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1534026 in heat "Fail heat_integrationtests.scenario.test_server_cfn_init.CfnInitIntegrationTest.test_server_cfn_init due to Nova error" [Medium,Confirmed] | 15:05 |
| therve | It seems that qcow conversion is failing in that one test where we boot a server | 15:05 |
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| therve | skraynev, Remember a bit about that one, or you just got that error once? | 15:06 |
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| skraynev | therve: once | 15:07 |
| therve | It started to happen a lot in the past 2 days (about 40 failures from what I can tell from logstack) | 15:07 |
| skraynev | so I am not sure | 15:07 |
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| therve | Unfortunately we're the only project affected :/ | 15:08 |
| therve | I wonder if other projects test real qcow images though | 15:08 |
| skraynev | I don't think so, probably it because we support old aws style | 15:08 |
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| therve | ? | 15:09 |
| skraynev | I don't think, that somebody else who try to check such cases with this staff on th gates | 15:09 |
| therve | AFAICT it has nothing to do with the CFN API, but I may be wrong | 15:09 |
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| therve | Anyway, I'll see with infra after the meeting if they have a clue, unless someone has another idea | 15:10 |
| jaimguer | o/ | 15:10 |
| therve | #topic Status of fixing delete/cancel behaviour for convergence | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status of fixing delete/cancel behaviour for convergence (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:10 | |
| therve | So | 15:11 |
| therve | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279406/ may get in some day... | 15:11 |
| therve | Then https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301483/ needs to be rebased | 15:11 |
| skraynev | therve: yes. I rechecked it. it's only can be related with cfn-init staff. I just was confused by AWS resources in the template for this test | 15:12 |
| therve | Anant is not around unfortunately, so I don't have much more new on that front | 15:12 |
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| therve | skraynev, " it's only can be related" ? Sorry I don't understand | 15:12 |
| therve | shardy, I guess you just meant to push the issue some more, no info in particular? | 15:13 |
| shardy | therve: Yeah, that bug has been unassigned for a while, and to me it's a critical blocker | 15:13 |
| shardy | so I wanted to understand how close we are to fixing it | 15:13 |
| shardy | thanks for the update, I'll pull those patches and see if they address the problem I was hitting | 15:14 |
| therve | We're moving very slowly, in part because of reviews, in part because of the gate | 15:14 |
| skraynev | therve: i thought, that root cause is our Heat resources or API, but now suppose, that it may be something wrong with cfn-init library. anyway don't take in mind ;) | 15:14 |
| therve | skraynev, It fails when we boot the server though. We're only calling one nova API here. | 15:15 |
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| therve | Anyway | 15:15 |
| therve | #topic Better place to define properties groups schema | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Better place to define properties groups schema (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:16 | |
| prazumovsky | It's mine | 15:16 |
| prazumovsky | Here is changes for merged spec | 15:16 |
| prazumovsky | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333304/ | 15:16 |
| prazumovsky | *are | 15:16 |
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| therve | operator=XOR? Oh boy :) | 15:17 |
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| prazumovsky | My question is - add properties group dict as item of properties schema (like in proposed changes), or create separate properties group schema | 15:17 |
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| therve | prazumovsky, I'd say separately may be better | 15:20 |
| prazumovsky | I think so too | 15:20 |
| therve | It feels like a weird fit in the schema directly | 15:20 |
| ochuprykov | +1 for separate properties group schema | 15:20 |
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| therve | I'm not a giant fan of that idea either though, but anyway | 15:21 |
| prazumovsky | Ok, thanks for voting:) | 15:21 |
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| prazumovsky | Anyway, It's allows to improve documentation | 15:21 |
| therve | prazumovsky, I'll ask anyway: wouldn't it be better to be part of the property themselves? Do we need that "group" mechanism? | 15:22 |
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| therve | ie property xxx = Schema(STR, conflicts=[yyy, zzz]) | 15:23 |
| therve | We can talk about that later | 15:24 |
| therve | #topic Open discussions | 15:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussions (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:24 | |
| therve | Bring it on | 15:24 |
| prazumovsky | functional will be the same, but property schema will be too overloaded, I think | 15:24 |
| ochuprykov | please take a look on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280836/ | 15:24 |
| prazumovsky | Sorry, I'm from phone, slowly typing | 15:24 |
| ochuprykov | spec was merged already! | 15:25 |
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| ochuprykov | i've added rpc layer for sfe locking, as we discussed at the last meeting | 15:25 |
| therve | ochuprykov, Awesome | 15:26 |
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| therve | Anything else? | 15:29 |
| ochuprykov | not from my side | 15:29 |
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| therve | 3 | 15:29 |
| therve | 2 | 15:29 |
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| therve | 1 | 15:30 |
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| therve | #endmeeting | 15:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:30 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 6 15:30:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-07-06-15.00.html | 15:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-07-06-15.00.txt | 15:30 |
| therve | Thanks all! | 15:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-07-06-15.00.log.html | 15:30 |
| prazumovsky | bye bye | 15:30 |
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| rhallisey | #startmeeting kolla | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 6 16:01:23 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhallisey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:01 |
| rhallisey | #topic rollcall | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:01 | |
| rhallisey | hello | 16:01 |
| inc0 | o/ | 16:01 |
| wirehead_ | o/ | 16:01 |
| mliima_ | hi :) | 16:01 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | o/ | 16:01 |
| coolsvap | o/ | 16:01 |
| rhallisey | alrighty then | 16:02 |
| rhallisey | #topic Announcements | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:02 | |
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| rhallisey | Summit talks are due on the 12th | 16:02 |
| rhallisey | if anyone is planning a talk, there are 6 days left to submit | 16:02 |
| inc0 | Midcycle is next week | 16:03 |
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| vhosakot | o/ | 16:03 |
| rhallisey | if you have anything you are thinking about, mention it with some people and maybe we can help the idea along | 16:03 |
| rhallisey | inc0, yes thanks | 16:03 |
| rhallisey | midcycle is also next week | 16:03 |
| pbourke | o/ | 16:03 |
| rhallisey | in North Carolina | 16:04 |
| wirehead_ | If you haven’t gotten tickets for midcycle and get plane tickets now, you will probably be in trouble with your boss. | 16:04 |
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| rhallisey | :) | 16:04 |
| rhallisey | #topic Customization of dockerfiles | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Customization of dockerfiles (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:04 | |
| rhallisey | inc0, anything to add for this? | 16:04 |
| inc0 | yeah | 16:04 |
| inc0 | so we need to start doing work of adding placeholders for customizations | 16:05 |
| inc0 | let me show you an example | 16:05 |
| inc0 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329651/ | 16:05 |
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| coolsvap | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329651/ | 16:06 |
| akwasnie | Hi, sorry for being late! | 16:06 |
| rhallisey | this work can be divided among the community | 16:06 |
| rhallisey | inc0, is thet BP setup for that? | 16:06 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | inc0, how to add a new package? | 16:06 |
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| inc0 | rhallisey, we don't have bp with work items | 16:07 |
| inc0 | I'll do it after meeting | 16:07 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | for example, add `tmux` to the heat container. ( even though it is meaningless) | 16:07 |
| rhallisey | inc0, ok let's get that out there. Fix up that patch and merge it. | 16:07 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l_, hold on | 16:07 |
| rhallisey | once we have that one done the work can be spread out | 16:07 |
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| Jeffrey4l_ | ok | 16:08 |
| inc0 | you'll need to add {{ heat_api_packages_append = ["tmux"] }} in customization file | 16:08 |
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| inc0 | ok, so I'll start with writing docs:) | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | inc0, where is the customization file locate? | 16:09 |
| inc0 | build.py --template-override path-to-customization-file | 16:09 |
| rhallisey | inc0, yes please :) | 16:09 |
| inc0 | #action inc0 to provide docs for customization | 16:10 |
| rhallisey | ok cool | 16:10 |
| inc0 | #action inc0 to provide blueprint with work items | 16:10 |
| inc0 | ok, that's on me, after that take on items guys | 16:10 |
| rhallisey | inc0, ya just make a writeup of the work items and we can spread them out | 16:11 |
| rhallisey | #topic Gating | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gating (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:11 | |
| rhallisey | dmsimard write another email about gating that I think brought up some good points | 16:11 |
| rhallisey | s/write/wrote | 16:11 |
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| rhallisey | as for moving towards voting gates, I've seen a lot more green lately | 16:12 |
| rhallisey | Jeffrey4l_, I know you've been working hard on that :) | 16:12 |
| rhallisey | nice job | 16:12 |
| coolsvap | Jeffrey4l_ +1 nice | 16:12 |
| rhallisey | there is a new issue that I've seen: http://logs.openstack.org/51/298451/21/check/gate-kolla-dsvm-deploy-centos-binary/f212710/console.html#_2016-07-06_01_49_11_762175 | 16:12 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | yes. the gate is more stable now. | 16:12 |
| rhallisey | issue with neutron-ovs-agent | 16:13 |
| wirehead_ | I’m assuming we can’t dip a toe in by creating an artificial gate that votes no if all of the ‘deploy’ or ‘build’ gates are red. | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | rhallisey, this fix is under review https://review.openstack.org/336352 | 16:13 |
| rhallisey | awesome | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | one question: should we move the xenial in the CI for ubuntu? | 16:14 |
| rhallisey | so tieing into what I first mentioned about that email, getting out gates to stable is one step in the right direction | 16:14 |
| rhallisey | beyond that we need to extend out gate coverage | 16:14 |
| rhallisey | it's something that's going to propel the general stability of the project | 16:14 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | move the/move to | 16:14 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l_, we should be good | 16:15 |
| inc0 | I didnt experience any issues with xenial yet | 16:15 |
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| Jeffrey4l_ | inc0, if we move to xenial, all the branch will use it. | 16:16 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | what do you guys think this? | 16:16 |
| inc0 | yeah, but as base system | 16:16 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | include liberty, mitaka and newtwon | 16:16 |
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| rhallisey | I think that sounds reasonable | 16:16 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | now, one issue from ubuntu kernel block the ubuntu 16.04 as the base image. | 16:16 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | https://review.openstack.org/329454 | 16:17 |
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| rhallisey | ok good to know | 16:18 |
| rhallisey | one more think per the email | 16:18 |
| rhallisey | #link https://github.com/openstack/packstack#packstack-integration-tests | 16:18 |
| rhallisey | those are the tests linked that packstack does | 16:18 |
| rhallisey | it worth to think about in terms of ideas for gate coverage | 16:19 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | yes. | 16:19 |
| rhallisey | 1) stability 2) getting minimal coverage | 16:19 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | but additional, kolla has more matrix beyond that. like ubunt+source cent0S+source centos+binary etc | 16:19 |
| rhallisey | yes it does | 16:20 |
| rhallisey | which is awesome | 16:20 |
| rhallisey | in total we have a lot of gate, but we have some hold when it comes to basic coverage | 16:20 |
| rhallisey | well talk a bunch more about this at the midcycle | 16:20 |
| rhallisey | #topic Kolla-kubernetes | 16:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kolla-kubernetes (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:21 | |
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| rhallisey | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335279/ | 16:21 |
| rhallisey | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334255/ | 16:21 |
| rhallisey | the first link is a spec to ansible as a deployment tool that hands off to kube | 16:21 |
| rhallisey | there is some good discussion ongoing there that could be worth jumping into if you haven't already | 16:22 |
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| rhallisey | wirehead_, did you want to mention anything | 16:22 |
| rhallisey | or anyone else for that matter? | 16:22 |
| wirehead_ | Well, Kube 1.3 has init containers that might solve some of our workflow issues in a better fashion. | 16:22 |
| wirehead_ | I think I wrote enough paragraphs for the next day or two on the spec. :D | 16:23 |
| rhallisey | hehe | 16:23 |
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| rhallisey | wirehead_, think we can get a poc of that? To compare? | 16:23 |
| wirehead_ | Yeah. | 16:23 |
| inc0 | yeah, init containers might actually be good for you guys | 16:24 |
| rhallisey | wirehead_, something to keep in mind too is that the init containers would need to work for both bootstrap and upgrades | 16:24 |
| wirehead_ | gherlien submitted the doc patch for kube 1.3 instructions yesterday and I’m running my tests. | 16:24 |
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| inc0 | rhallisey, I think that's still doable | 16:24 |
| rhallisey | I mean it's technically do able with init containers, but we want to be sure it's the best possible method | 16:25 |
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| wirehead_ | We might end up taking both options. | 16:25 |
| rhallisey | avoid auto magic and make sure were flexibile | 16:25 |
| inc0 | I'd be opposed to do both | 16:25 |
| inc0 | as we want to make one but good | 16:25 |
| rhallisey | inc0, so init + ansible? | 16:25 |
| wirehead_ | c.f. MariaDB using init containers to get started, because it’s a snowflake, but database migrations using ansible. | 16:26 |
| inc0 | wirehead_, are you going to midcycle? | 16:26 |
| wirehead_ | Yes. | 16:26 |
| inc0 | let's talk there shall we? | 16:26 |
| rhallisey | I'm not sure if I'm opposed.. it could move us closer to a state were kube could one day handle the whole thing | 16:26 |
| rhallisey | idk | 16:26 |
| inc0 | rhallisey, opposed for both at same time | 16:26 |
| inc0 | I think we need to make a call | 16:26 |
| rhallisey | ok let's have a poc of it to see how it works | 16:27 |
| wirehead_ | Opposed to both at the same time for no reason, but OK with using a different option to handle the snowflakes. | 16:27 |
| inc0 | if its hybrid of both - cool, but single arch | 16:27 |
| rhallisey | then we can discuss what we like | 16:27 |
| wirehead_ | Yeah, I’m fully acknowledging that my opinions have been flipping as the code develops. | 16:27 |
| rhallisey | wirehead_, no worries, I've been all over the place | 16:27 |
| rhallisey | the tech is changing rapidly and we have to adjust on the fly | 16:28 |
| inc0 | wirehead_, we've rewritten kolla couple of times ourselves;) | 16:28 |
| rhallisey | ya not to mention that ^ | 16:28 |
| wirehead_ | This is also probably a good time to consider if there’s something we need in upstream kube 1.4 | 16:28 |
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| rhallisey | wirehead_, the only thing I can think of is additional HA. But since we haven't gotten there yet I can't quantify it | 16:29 |
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| wirehead_ | PetSets. :) | 16:29 |
| rhallisey | I briefly read about them | 16:30 |
| * rhallisey will read further | 16:30 | |
| rhallisey | #topic Open Discussion | 16:30 |
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| wirehead_ | So, we’re still blocked on merging https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327925/ | 16:31 |
| wirehead_ | To clarify, to inc0 and maybe kfox1111… we want a new variable that dictates that we’re using kolla-kubernetes | 16:31 |
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| rhallisey | wirehead_, interesting | 16:32 |
| rhallisey | k will comment on later | 16:32 |
| inc0 | wirehead_, why not set 0.0.0.0 if this variable is not set? | 16:32 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | need guy to reply my concern https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327925/8/ansible/roles/common/tasks/config.yml | 16:33 |
| wirehead_ | It’s getting really bike-shed-y. | 16:34 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | is anyone interested in ansiblize dockerfile? spec is here https://review.openstack.org/336757 , a poc is here https://review.openstack.org/334208 | 16:34 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l_, I'm really opposed to this | 16:34 |
| pbourke | Jeffrey4l_: i feel its too big of a change for the project | 16:34 |
| inc0 | if you do everything in single ansible run | 16:34 |
| wirehead_ | inc0: So, you mean that we set one variable that’s kolla_kubernetes=yes, and then from that set 0.0.0.0 as the interface address? | 16:34 |
| inc0 | you effectively lose docker layers | 16:35 |
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| pbourke | most arguments are a repeat of the dsl | 16:35 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | pbourke, is is ansible script. not dsl. | 16:35 |
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| pbourke | i know, but many of the arguments that were made against the dsl also apply here | 16:35 |
| inc0 | in reality it's worse than dsl, as again, you lose bunch of docker mechanisms | 16:35 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | and i will make some change to reduce the repeat. | 16:36 |
| inc0 | wirehead_, I'd love to not have kolla_kubernetes=yes in ansible... | 16:36 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | inc0, now. docker image cache is useless actually in kolla. we use the parent image mechanisms more. | 16:36 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | s/now/no. | 16:36 |
| inc0 | not true | 16:37 |
| inc0 | also I'm ok with refactoring of dockerfiles | 16:37 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | btw, I will change the current implemention to use only one ansible playbooks to generate all the images. | 16:37 |
| inc0 | but not doing total repave of everything | 16:37 |
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| rhallisey | shall we carry over to #kolla? | 16:39 |
| inc0 | yeah, I guess | 16:39 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | ok | 16:39 |
| rhallisey | #end meeting | 16:40 |
| rhallisey | #endmeeting | 16:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 6 16:40:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:40 |
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| Jeffrey4l_ | thanks all guys | 16:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-07-06-16.01.html | 16:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-07-06-16.01.txt | 16:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-07-06-16.01.log.html | 16:40 |
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| dougwig | o/ | 17:31 |
| boden | o/ | 17:31 |
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| dougwig | #startmeeting networking_lib | 17:32 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 6 17:32:28 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dougwig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:32 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_lib)" | 17:32 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_lib' | 17:32 |
| dougwig | njohnston: if you're around, what was your topic that got cut off last week? | 17:32 |
| njohnston | dougwig: I believe it has been resolved. The topic was the agent extension interface that we are moving out of the l2 agent so the l3 agent can take advantage of it | 17:33 |
| dougwig | ok | 17:33 |
| dougwig | our agenda is out of date, and i just literally got back from camping on the 4th, so... | 17:34 |
| dougwig | #topic Open discussion | 17:34 |
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| dougwig | HenryG: how's the db stuff? | 17:34 |
| HenryG | I have a patch out but Kevin doesn't like it | 17:34 |
| HenryG | https://review.openstack.org/337731 | 17:35 |
| dougwig | what doesn't he like? | 17:35 |
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| njohnston | armax commented that since this is a primary interface for a project like FWaaS to interface into Neutron, it belongs in neutron-lib. My concern was that would make the change too complex to accomplish without significant outside help, since I am not sure how to scope what agent code should move into neutron-lib, and it would tank the schedule for FWaaS. So the resolution wa sto implement it in Neutron and | 17:35 |
| njohnston | then as soon as the feature is stable to push it to neutron-lib. | 17:35 |
| HenryG | I will put the utils in lib, wait for it to land, then resume the patch. | 17:36 |
| dougwig | njohnston: that's a reasonable plan. | 17:36 |
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| dougwig | boden: weren't you peeking at the agent stuff as well? | 17:38 |
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| boden | dougwig: I have some various neutron-lib patches that start to bring neutron agent over, but they are waiting on HenryG’s patch | 17:39 |
| dougwig | ok, it sounds like you might want to coordinate with njohnston and what he'll eventually need for fwaas. | 17:39 |
| boden | will do | 17:39 |
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| dougwig | boden: did we find consensus on the hacking check stuff? | 17:41 |
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| boden | dougwig: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333500/ | 17:42 |
| boden | there’s some discussion to be had | 17:42 |
| HenryG | Ihar has a concern. I am not sure I understand all the details. | 17:42 |
| boden | but I’m a bit behind the ball with the holiday + I have a sick kid at home right now | 17:42 |
| dougwig | ok, we'll continue on gerrit for that one. | 17:43 |
| dougwig | any other issues for today? | 17:43 |
| boden | dougwig: I’m working on a script that can generate a public API | 17:43 |
| boden | and could be used to compare API changes between lib releases | 17:43 |
| boden | FYI | 17:43 |
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| dougwig | boden: oh, very nice. how's it going, and when do you think it'll be working? | 17:44 |
| boden | dougwig: I hope to have a super-hacked-version by end of week just to get some initial feedback | 17:44 |
| HenryG | cool | 17:45 |
| dougwig | great, looking forward to it. | 17:45 |
| dougwig | anything else? post-holiday, we seem to be in a lull. :) | 17:45 |
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| boden | nothing here worth wasting your time on | 17:46 |
| boden | here = from me | 17:46 |
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| njohnston | I have nothing else. I'll sync up with boden. | 17:46 |
| dougwig | HenryG: ? | 17:47 |
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| HenryG | nope | 17:47 |
| dougwig | ok. | 17:48 |
| dougwig | thanks all | 17:48 |
| dougwig | #endmeeting | 17:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 6 17:48:57 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_lib/2016/networking_lib.2016-07-06-17.32.html | 17:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_lib/2016/networking_lib.2016-07-06-17.32.txt | 17:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_lib/2016/networking_lib.2016-07-06-17.32.log.html | 17:49 |
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| JRobinson__ | Hello all, I'll start the User Guide meeting in about 7 minutes | 20:53 |
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| JRobinson__ | #startmeeting docuserguides | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 6 21:01:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is JRobinson__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'docuserguides' | 21:01 |
| JRobinson__ | Hi all, this is the Documentation User Guides meeting | 21:01 |
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| JRobinson__ | If it's just me again, it will be a short meeting, but I'll run through the agenda anyway. | 21:01 |
| JRobinson__ | It's about 5pm on the West coast in the US, has it been a good 4th of July week? | 21:02 |
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| JRobinson__ | I heard it was busier, depending on the area. | 21:04 |
| JRobinson__ | #topic Action items from last meeting | 21:05 |
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| JRobinson__ | #info The IA plan came up in the past meeting | 21:05 |
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| JRobinson__ | I finished drafting the plan, and published it on the team page | 21:06 |
| JRobinson__ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/ReorganizeUserGuides#IA_Plan | 21:06 |
| JRobinson__ | The plan was drafted from notes taken during M cycle. Some of these were on the guide structure and consistency | 21:06 |
| JRobinson__ | #info this is a list of structure and consistency edits. Basic IA | 21:06 |
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| JRobinson__ | The plan is up though, so that action is down. | 21:08 |
| JRobinson__ | #topic Discuss IA plan. | 21:08 |
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| JRobinson__ | #info If anyone has looked at the User Guides before and thought about how the format could improve, please let me know on IRC or email, or contact the openstack mailing list | 21:09 |
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| JRobinson__ | #action mention the IA plan in the What's Up Doc newletter | 21:10 |
| JRobinson__ | One action for me to do. | 21:10 |
| JRobinson__ | #topic Items left from Mitaka edits | 21:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Items left from Mitaka edits (Meeting topic: docuserguides)" | 21:10 | |
| JRobinson__ | #Info there are still some items left to edit from the Mitaka cycle. | 21:10 |
| JRobinson__ | If anyone wants to checkout a bug and edit these, head to | 21:11 |
| JRobinson__ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/ReorganizeUserGuides#Up_to_Date_Tasks | 21:11 |
| JRobinson__ | and checkout a bug to work on | 21:11 |
| JRobinson__ | #topic Link Changes | 21:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Link Changes (Meeting topic: docuserguides)" | 21:11 | |
| JRobinson__ | #info still some outstanding link changes | 21:11 |
| JRobinson__ | #link http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=docs.openstack.org%5C%2Fadmin-guide-cloud&i=nope&files=&repos= | 21:12 |
| JRobinson__ | These were appeared after the cloud admin and admin guide merged. | 21:12 |
| JRobinson__ | If you spot any errant links referring to the cloud admin guide, please change them. | 21:12 |
| JRobinson__ | #topic Open Discussion | 21:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: docuserguides)" | 21:13 | |
| JRobinson__ | Anything else that needs a mention? | 21:13 |
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| JRobinson__ | Okay, I'll call it there. Thanks all o/ | 21:16 |
| JRobinson__ | #endmeeting | 21:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:16 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 6 21:16:29 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:16 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docuserguides/2016/docuserguides.2016-07-06-21.01.html | 21:16 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docuserguides/2016/docuserguides.2016-07-06-21.01.txt | 21:16 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docuserguides/2016/docuserguides.2016-07-06-21.01.log.html | 21:16 |
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