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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 8 08:00:26 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
| eyalb | hi | 08:00 |
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| gtt116 | o/ | 08:00 |
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| alexey_weyl | Hello there :) | 08:01 |
| idan_hefetz | Hi all :) | 08:01 |
| ifat_afek | Hi everyone! | 08:01 |
| alexey_weyl | Good to see ya all :) | 08:01 |
| Wendy_ | Hi | 08:01 |
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| elisha_r | hi | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek | Our agenda today: | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | * Vitrage POC Demo in OPNFV Berlin summit | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | * Status and Updates | 08:03 |
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| ifat_afek | * Open Discussion | 08:03 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Vitrage POC Demo in OPNFV Berlin summit | 08:04 |
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| lhartal | Hi :) | 08:04 |
| mkoushnir | Hi | 08:04 |
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| ifat_afek | We are preparing Vitrage demo for OPNF Berlin summit. | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | The purpose is to show how Vitrage can be used for Doctor use cases | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | Demo outline: | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | -We will have two hosts: one green and one yellow (CPU/memory alarm) | 08:05 |
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| ifat_afek | -We will show deduced alarms, deduced states and RCA on the yellow host | 08:05 |
| danoffek | Hi guys | 08:05 |
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| ohad | hi | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | -We will simulate, using nagios or zabbix, host NIC failure on the green host | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | -This will cause, eventually, calling nova force-down API, which will evacuate all instances from the red host and move them to the yellow host | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | -We still need to determine the best way to call nova force-down | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | Either we raise aodh alarm, or maybe there will be a script to listen to vitrage alarm and call nova API. We will consult Doctor team about it | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | In the coming week we should make sure everything works, and also prepare a few slides about Vitrage architecture and demo structure | 08:06 |
| idan_hefetz | Sounds like a cool demo! | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | Note that there will be a parallel Congress POC demo in another booth. | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | Any comments or questions regarding the demo? | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:08 |
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| ifat_afek | I'm still working on supporting vitrage in liberty | 08:08 |
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| ifat_afek | Almost everything works, with slight changes in vitrage code. There is one problem with our cli commands, show topology returns html instead of json. I'm checking it | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | Who else wants to update? | 08:09 |
| idan_hefetz | i will | 08:09 |
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| idan_hefetz | I'm currently manually installing vitrage on the demo setup, with redhat liberty distribution, with good progress. | 08:10 |
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| idan_hefetz | Except for OPNFV perp, I'm working to write a blueprint for aodh, support for custom alarms, that will allow vitrage-evaluator to create aodh alarms. | 08:10 |
| idan_hefetz | Thats that | 08:10 |
| ifat_afek | idan_hefetz: cool | 08:11 |
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| eyalb | I will update | 08:11 |
| eyalb | I built the vitrage rpms and checked them and they look ok | 08:11 |
| eyalb | I also asked for a package review for rdo so the rpms will be added to RDO | 08:12 |
| eyalb | and I continue pushing code to puppet-vitrage | 08:12 |
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| eyalb | #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1342987 | 08:13 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1342987 in Package Review "Review Request: openstack-vitrage - OpenStack RCA (Root Cause Analysis) Engine" [Unspecified,New] - Assigned to hguemar | 08:13 |
| eyalb | no response yet :-( | 08:13 |
| eyalb | thats it | 08:13 |
| alexey_weyl | I will update | 08:14 |
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| alexey_weyl | I have finished to write the zabbix data source and tests. | 08:14 |
| alexey_weyl | I will push it all today. | 08:14 |
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| alexey_weyl | at the moment it works with get_all and get_changes. | 08:15 |
| alexey_weyl | We plan to do the notifications for zabbix soon, but we still need to understand exactly how we won't to send and receive the notifications from zabbix | 08:15 |
| alexey_weyl | should we send to oslo bus if it is possible from bash or python | 08:16 |
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| alexey_weyl | and i am working on the installation of zabbix still. | 08:16 |
| alexey_weyl | at the moment we know how to install the server | 08:17 |
| alexey_weyl | and still need to understand exactly how to install with agent, and how to install it on environments that doesn't have a connection to the internet | 08:17 |
| alexey_weyl | thats it | 08:17 |
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| ifat_afek | alexey_weyl: great news about Zabbix datasource. We hope we can use it for Berlin POC | 08:17 |
| lhartal | I have some updates to | 08:18 |
| lhartal | So finally I added our new API – template validate | 08:18 |
| lhartal | :) | 08:18 |
| lhartal | It is available through CLI and URL | 08:18 |
| lhartal | You can find more info about in Vitrage documentation : https://github.com/openstack/vitrage/blob/master/doc/source/vitrage-api.rst | 08:19 |
| lhartal | #link https://github.com/openstack/vitrage/blob/master/doc/source/vitrage-api.rst | 08:19 |
| lhartal | Also, we have a list of validation status messages and codes – I will add it to Vitrage docs by the end of this week | 08:19 |
| lhartal | This week I’m gonna start to work on the template list API | 08:20 |
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| lhartal | It will show a list of all loaded templates and their status (validation failed or success) | 08:20 |
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| lhartal | In addition, I started to think how to show this list in GUI | 08:20 |
| lhartal | That’s all for now | 08:21 |
| ifat_afek | lhartal: sounds great, thanks | 08:21 |
| elisha_r | I'll update | 08:22 |
| lhartal | sorry for the duplicated link - I'm not familiar with IRC | 08:22 |
| ifat_afek | lhartal: no problem ;-) | 08:22 |
| elisha_r | The support for overlapping templates has been pushed. A small fix will be hopefully merged today. | 08:23 |
| elisha_r | I've also updated the RST with documentation on this feature, which also will hopefully be merged today | 08:23 |
| elisha_r | this feature makes it safe to add templates without concern about possible overlap or contradiction with others, in the sense that the evaluator now has a determinstic behavior in such cases. For more info, check the doc. | 08:25 |
| elisha_r | thats it | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | elisha_r: cool, thanks | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | Who else wants to update? | 08:26 |
| ifat_afek | Moving on | 08:27 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Open Discussion | 08:28 |
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| ifat_afek | Anyone would like to discuss anything? | 08:28 |
| Wendy_ | Hi,everyone,i'm dongwenjuan | 08:28 |
| Wendy_ | Could you please help me to add the workflow+1 for these reviews? Thanks | 08:28 |
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| Wendy_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324371/ | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | Hi dongwenjuan :-) | 08:28 |
| Wendy_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324377/ | 08:28 |
| alexey_weyl | שפפרםהקג | 08:29 |
| alexey_weyl | approved | 08:29 |
| ifat_afek | First link - will soon be approved | 08:29 |
| Wendy_ | OK, thanks. :) | 08:29 |
| ifat_afek | Also the second one | 08:29 |
| ifat_afek | Although in general, we should think again about which info and debug messages we would like to have in vitrage | 08:30 |
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| ifat_afek | Any other issue? | 08:30 |
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| ifat_afek | A reminder - we are looking for new contributors :-) whoever is interested is welcome to contact us | 08:32 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Vitrage | 08:33 |
| alexey_weyl | I we really need some more power here, because we have plenty of things to do | 08:33 |
| alexey_weyl | in vitrage itself, the UI needs to be approved | 08:34 |
| alexey_weyl | *improved | 08:34 |
| ifat_afek | alexey_weyl: exactly | 08:36 |
| ifat_afek | Any other topic to discuss, or should we close the meeting? | 08:36 |
| gtt116 | hi, I have found Vitrage this morning, I'm doing some investigate, hopping I can do some help in the future | 08:37 |
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| elisha_r | great - welcome | 08:37 |
| alexey_weyl | We would love to help | 08:37 |
| ifat_afek | gtt116: great! | 08:37 |
| gtt116 | :) cool, thanks guys! | 08:38 |
| ifat_afek | gtt116: you are welcome to come with any question you have | 08:38 |
| ifat_afek | gtt116: any specific areas you are interested in? | 08:39 |
| gtt116 | maybe sensu datasource | 08:39 |
| gtt116 | first of all, I think I need to learn how it works | 08:40 |
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| ifat_afek | gtt116: We wanted to add sensu datasource, but as a first stage we are adding zabbix. So if you want to write it you are more than welcome :-) | 08:40 |
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| ifat_afek | Anyway, take your time and learn. Let us know if you need any help | 08:41 |
| elisha_r | yeah, a sensu datasource would be great | 08:41 |
| gtt116 | OK, I will, thanks | 08:41 |
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| gtt116 | I also like zabbix, too | 08:42 |
| gtt116 | I know zabbix, and have wrote a tool to back up zabbix configuration throught zabbix HTTP api. does this help? | 08:43 |
| alexey_weyl | I have just pushed the zabbix datasource | 08:43 |
| alexey_weyl | I am planning to push the tests in an hour | 08:44 |
| alexey_weyl | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326575/ | 08:44 |
| alexey_weyl | #https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326575/ | 08:44 |
| alexey_weyl | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326575/ | 08:44 |
| alexey_weyl | but i am still a neweby in zabbix | 08:44 |
| gtt116 | alexey_weyl, cool | 08:45 |
| alexey_weyl | and if you could help me with some more, it will be great. | 08:45 |
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| gtt116 | yeah, that's great, I'm a newby in Vitrage, give me some time to learn it :) | 08:46 |
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| alexey_weyl | no problem :) | 08:46 |
| alexey_weyl | How can I maybe contact you? | 08:47 |
| gtt116 | my email: gtt116@gmail.com, also IRC is OK | 08:47 |
| ifat_afek | Any other issue someone would like to discuss? | 08:48 |
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| ifat_afek | So goodbye everyone, see you next week | 08:50 |
| alexey_weyl | bye bye | 08:50 |
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| danoffek | bye | 08:50 |
| Wendy_ | bye | 08:50 |
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| gtt116 | bye bye | 08:50 |
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| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:51 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 8 08:51:01 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-06-08-08.00.html | 08:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-06-08-08.00.txt | 08:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-06-08-08.00.log.html | 08:51 |
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| acabot | #startmeeting watcher | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 8 09:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is acabot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 09:00 |
| acabot | hi | 09:00 |
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| alexchadin | hi | 09:00 |
| vincentfrancoise | hi | 09:00 |
| jinquan | hi | 09:00 |
| ostroverkhov | hi | 09:00 |
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| jed56 | hi | 09:00 |
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| acabot | agenda for today #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#06.2F08.2F2016 | 09:01 |
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| hanrong | hi | 09:01 |
| acabot | please add anything you like in open discusssions before the end of the meeting | 09:01 |
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| acabot | #topic Announcements | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:01 | |
| acabot | #info Watcher n1 version has been released by the release team but no announcement sent yet | 09:02 |
| acabot | I dont know why no mail has been sent | 09:02 |
| acabot | I will check with dhellman today | 09:02 |
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| acabot | #info Watcher documentation is now available on docs.openstack.org #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/watcher/ | 09:03 |
| acabot | for now there is only Watcher, I will add watcher CLI soon | 09:03 |
| acabot | #action acabot add watcher CLI doc on docs.openstack.org | 09:04 |
| alexchadin | specs.openstack.org link is broken | 09:04 |
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| acabot | #info Watcher specs are available on specs.openstack.org | 09:04 |
| acabot | yes because we need a merge to build the repo :-) | 09:04 |
| alexchadin | Ah, didn't see;) | 09:04 |
| acabot | the gate job is in place but we need to merge a spec to have it run | 09:05 |
| acabot | I hope we will have one until end of week | 09:05 |
| acabot | #info The Call for Presentations is now open for the upcoming OpenStack Summit in Barcelona, October 25-28 ( submission deadline is July 14th at 6:59 UTC) #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/call-for-speakers/ | 09:05 |
| acabot | does anyone here wants to present Watcher in Barcelona ? | 09:05 |
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| acabot | #action acabot open an etherpad to write down sessions descriptions for the Barcelona summit | 09:06 |
| acabot | #info Mid-cycle details have been announced on the ML #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/096379.html | 09:07 |
| acabot | if you plan to come to our mid-cycle, please register now | 09:07 |
| acabot | any other announcement ? | 09:07 |
| jed56 | acabot: I can | 09:07 |
| acabot | jed56 : what can you ? :-) | 09:08 |
| jed56 | does anyone here wants to present Watcher in Barcelona ? yes i can :) | 09:08 |
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| acabot | #info jed56 would like to present Watcher in Barcelona | 09:09 |
| acabot | #topic Review Action Items | 09:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:09 | |
| acabot | Watcher specs | 09:09 |
| acabot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317130/ needs a new PS from hvprash | 09:09 |
| acabot | anyone here from walmart ? | 09:10 |
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| acabot | #info vincentfrancoise will provide work items for Cluster model objects wrapper #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287019/ | 09:10 |
| acabot | #info Graph model describing virtual and physical elements in a data center & Consolidation of multiple Action-plans into a single one need reviews | 09:10 |
| acabot | any volunteer to review these specs ? | 09:11 |
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| acabot | ok moving to watcher code | 09:11 |
| acabot | Uniform Airflow migration strategy implementation needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324169/ | 09:11 |
| acabot | junjie : is your code ready for reviews ? | 09:12 |
| junjie | yes | 09:12 |
| acabot | ok who wants to review a new strategy ? | 09:12 |
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| gzhai-mobl2 | I can review consolidation action plan | 09:12 |
| jed56 | i can review | 09:12 |
| acabot | hello gzhai-mobl2 | 09:13 |
| junjie | great, thanks | 09:13 |
| acabot | #action jed56 review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324169/ | 09:13 |
| acabot | #action gzhai-mobl2 review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298871/ | 09:13 |
| gzhai-mobl2 | Hello | 09:13 |
| acabot | Add continuously optimization needs reviews from core #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321411/ | 09:14 |
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| acabot | alexchadin : I think your code has been reviewed now and need validation from cores | 09:14 |
| alexchadin | acabot: vincentfrancoise reviewed it | 09:14 |
| acabot | dtardivel : can you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321411/ ? | 09:14 |
| dtardivel | yes | 09:14 |
| acabot | #action review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321411/ and merge it as vincentfrancoise already reviewed | 09:15 |
| alexchadin | acabot: new PS is waiting for new reviews;) | 09:15 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321411/ and merge it as vincentfrancoise already reviewed | 09:15 |
| acabot | efficacy indicator need reviews from core #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/efficacy-indicator | 09:16 |
| vincentfrancoise | I will review it once again | 09:16 |
| acabot | #action vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321411/ | 09:16 |
| acabot | gzhai-mobl2 : could you review https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/efficacy-indicator before next meeting ? | 09:16 |
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| acabot | dtardivel is currently reviewing it | 09:17 |
| dtardivel | acabot: I'm reviewing it | 09:17 |
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| acabot | gzhai-mobl2 : Enable strategy parameters needs a new PS https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297556/ | 09:17 |
| acabot | #action gzhai-mobl2 submit a new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297556/ | 09:18 |
| acabot | WIP Implement immutable audit_template CRUD needs a status #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324652/ | 09:18 |
| tkaczynski | hi guys, sorry for being late. morning meetings are not in my calendar yet :| | 09:18 |
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| acabot | #action hvprash provide a status for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324652/ | 09:18 |
| gzhai-mobl2 | I am doing it | 09:18 |
| acabot | tkaczynski : no pb | 09:18 |
| vincentfrancoise | hi tkaczynski | 09:19 |
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| acabot | jinquan : Select destinations filter implementation needs a status #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305596/ | 09:19 |
| jinquan | acabot : OK | 09:19 |
| jinquan | I'm modify jed's suggestion about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/select-destinations-filter, But have not completed. | 09:19 |
| jed56 | jinquan: I think i will amend a bit the specification of acabot | 09:20 |
| jed56 | jinquan: for you information i currently looking at the nova code | 09:20 |
| acabot | #action jed56 jinquan update the spec regarding https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/select-destinations-filter | 09:20 |
| jinquan | jed56: i read your comment in patch set | 09:20 |
| jed56 | if have any questions don't hesitate | 09:20 |
| jinquan | jed56: yes thankyou :) | 09:21 |
| jed56 | welcome ! | 09:21 |
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| acabot | as the spec has been approved for mitaka, we will have to copy it to newton before amending it | 09:21 |
| jed56 | acabot: copy that | 09:21 |
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| acabot | moving to watcher CLI | 09:22 |
| acabot | Add support continuously-optimization needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321421/ | 09:22 |
| acabot | Enable strategy parameter needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297557/ | 09:23 |
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| acabot | Any volunteers to review CLI improvements ? | 09:23 |
| jed56 | I can review 321421 | 09:23 |
| acabot | #action jed56 review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321421/ | 09:23 |
| acabot | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 09:24 |
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| acabot | #info our current milestone is Newton-2 #link https://launchpad.net/watcher/+milestone/newton-2 | 09:24 |
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| acabot | 9 BPs targeted | 09:24 |
| acabot | tkaczynski : update needed on Provide a scoring module for Watcher #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/scoring-module | 09:25 |
| * acabot waiting for tkaczynski comments | 09:26 | |
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| tkaczynski | acabot: update is the same as it was last week - yesterday I've finished working on TAP features, from today moving to Watcher | 09:26 |
| acabot | #action tkaczynski start working on scoring module today | 09:26 |
| tkaczynski | I would like to define the tasks which I need to do and start executing them, also refresh myself on the changes which happened when I was out | 09:27 |
| acabot | #info Define the scope of an Audit as a pool of resources has been assigned to Charlotte Han from ZTE, can we set a target milestone ? #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/define-the-audit-scope | 09:27 |
| acabot | jinquan : do you now Charlotte ? | 09:27 |
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| hanrong | I want to join the watcher community, but I don't know what to do. Jinquan assgined a BP to me, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/define-the-audit-scope | 09:27 |
| jinquan | yes | 09:27 |
| jinquan | she is online now | 09:28 |
| acabot | ok welcome hanrong | 09:28 |
| jinquan | she want to join the watcher team | 09:28 |
| jinquan | so she assign the bp | 09:28 |
| dtardivel | welcome hanrong :) | 09:28 |
| jinquan | welcome :) | 09:28 |
| acabot | hanrong : did you already looked at watcher code ? | 09:28 |
| jed56 | Welcome | 09:29 |
| junjie | welcome | 09:29 |
| hanrong | Has not yet been | 09:29 |
| gzhai-mobl2 | Welcome | 09:29 |
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| jed56 | 欢迎 | 09:29 |
| vincentfrancoise | lol | 09:29 |
| jinquan | jed56: great!!! | 09:29 |
| acabot | hanrong : ok in this case I would suggest you to take this BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/watcher-policies to enter Watcher code | 09:30 |
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| acabot | hanrong : it would be much easier and its in our priorities for newton-2 version | 09:30 |
| hanrong | @acabot ok | 09:31 |
| acabot | hanrong : or fix bugs as there are some for Newton-2, as you prefer | 09:31 |
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| acabot | #action hanrong take time to discover Watcher, fix bugs or take the BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/watcher-policies | 09:32 |
| hanrong | @acabot Ok, I look at the bug | 09:32 |
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| acabot | jinquan : so you now have 2 BPs assigned :-), what about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/select-destinations-filter ? | 09:33 |
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| acabot | jinquan : I think you should stay with one BP at a time | 09:33 |
| acabot | jinquan : especially if you need to rework specs with jed56 ;-) | 09:34 |
| jinquan | ok, | 09:34 |
| jinquan | yeah, just i am very interested in the BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/automatic-triggering-audit. | 09:34 |
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| acabot | jinquan : ok but do you plan to work on specs for it ? | 09:35 |
| jinquan | i can review the specs if someone commit specs | 09:35 |
| acabot | jinquan : IMHO you should now focus on select_destinations, then move to the other BP | 09:36 |
| jinquan | consider that you think should stay with one BP at a time | 09:36 |
| acabot | #info jinquan is interested in contributing to specs for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/automatic-triggering-audit | 09:36 |
| jinquan | yes, i will unassign the bp | 09:36 |
| acabot | jinquan : ok thx | 09:36 |
| jinquan | nothing :) | 09:37 |
| acabot | #topic Open Discussion | 09:37 |
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| acabot | now that Watcher is big-tent, should we provide a DB migration tool ? | 09:37 |
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| acabot | as suggested by brunograz yesterday on IRC, he tried to update watcher without recreating the database | 09:38 |
| jed56 | IMHO, we can wait the version 1.0 of watcher | 09:38 |
| jed56 | the first stable version | 09:38 |
| jed56 | and then, we should provide the db migrations tools | 09:38 |
| acabot | jed56 : perfect transition, so should we target a 1.0 version now ? | 09:38 |
| dtardivel | jed56: should stable version 1.0 integrate DB migration tool ? | 09:39 |
| jed56 | no, we should wait the next realase | 09:39 |
| jed56 | dtardivel: for me yes | 09:39 |
| * acabot has seen many projects moving to 1.0 in the big tent | 09:39 | |
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| acabot | #info currently Watcher version is 0.27 | 09:40 |
| jed56 | IMHO, watcher should scale and respect the nova policies before to be tagged has 1.0 | 09:40 |
| tkaczynski | I also think that 1.0 means "production ready", not "big tent" ;) | 09:40 |
| acabot | jed56 : I agree with you on nova policies, and it is something we should fix during the mid-cycle | 09:40 |
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| jed56 | what is the next Openstack Release ? | 09:41 |
| acabot | jed56 : you mean when ? | 09:41 |
| acabot | jed56 : Ocata | 09:41 |
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| acabot | Ocata will be april 2017 | 09:42 |
| jed56 | so, maybe watcher can manage db migration for Ocata | 09:42 |
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| jed56 | o-1 | 09:42 |
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| jed56 | tkaczynski: i agree with you | 09:43 |
| alexchadin | jed56: could we discuss rally id issue? | 09:43 |
| vincentfrancoise | we need to define what we need to consider watcher as production-ready | 09:43 |
| jed56 | alexchadin: yes of course | 09:43 |
| acabot | tkaczynski : I agree with you, its just that I we want to have more users after the Barcelona summit and moving to 1.x version is better for users | 09:43 |
| acabot | alexchadin : yes go ahead with Rally | 09:44 |
| alexchadin | Should I submit it as a bug? | 09:44 |
| jed56 | acabot: why is the better for the users to have 1.0 ? | 09:44 |
| acabot | jed56 : users dont install beta software | 09:45 |
| alexchadin | jed56: I mean renaming of uuid | 09:45 |
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| tkaczynski | acabot: but if we name it "1.0" and we are not production ready, then we are beta, no? | 09:45 |
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| jed56 | if watcher is production-ready we can tagged 1.0 | 09:46 |
| tkaczynski | jed56 +1 | 09:46 |
| alexchadin | acabot: We will test watcher in july-august on 20 nodes | 09:46 |
| acabot | tkaczynski : if we name it 1.0 its because we are production ready, we plan to test watcher on a large cluster in september | 09:46 |
| jed56 | alexchadin: you can send a mail to the ML regarding the problem with have with Rally | 09:46 |
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| alexchadin | acabot: in private cloud | 09:46 |
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| alexchadin | jed56: then push new commit? | 09:47 |
| acabot | #info alexchadin will test Watcher on a 20 nodes private cloud in july-august 2016 | 09:47 |
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| jed56 | alexchadin: we should wait that the contributors of watcher give theirs opinions | 09:48 |
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| alexchadin | acabot: we have high hopes for watcher | 09:48 |
| acabot | alexchadin : me too ;-) | 09:48 |
| alexchadin | jed56: got you | 09:48 |
| jed56 | IMHO, this is more a Rally problem | 09:49 |
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| alexchadin | jed56: that's was strange decision, I agree | 09:49 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: As I see it, I would fix this on the Rally side as well as jed56 said | 09:50 |
| acabot | junjie : do you plan to work on additional strategies ? | 09:50 |
| junjie | not yet | 09:51 |
| junjie | will do more this year | 09:51 |
| acabot | junjie : ok if you can register your BPs before the mid-cycle it would be great | 09:51 |
| acabot | junjie : we will be able to prioritize them | 09:52 |
| junjie | got it, i will check with team | 09:52 |
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| acabot | junjie : thx | 09:52 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: I will discuss this problem with Andrey Kurilin, he is rally senior developer | 09:52 |
| jed56 | alexchadin: okay | 09:52 |
| acabot | tkaczynski : did you manage to get funding for the mid-cycle ? | 09:52 |
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| tkaczynski | acabot: no, I'm not going. but I will switch my working hours and Susanne will organize a conf call or something | 09:53 |
| acabot | tkaczynski : ok thx | 09:53 |
| acabot | any other discussion to open ? | 09:54 |
| jed56 | no for me | 09:54 |
| acabot | I forgot to complete OSIC form | 09:54 |
| acabot | #action acabot complete the OSIC form by next week | 09:54 |
| tkaczynski | acabot: what is OSIC form? is that something everyody must do? | 09:55 |
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| acabot | tkaczynski : no no its the OpenStack Innovation Center to request a cluster to test Wathcer | 09:55 |
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| acabot | #info watcher-puppet has been added to gerritbot to get notifications on our IRC channel | 09:56 |
| tkaczynski | acabot: ok, thanks | 09:56 |
| acabot | so we can close the meeting | 09:56 |
| acabot | thx | 09:57 |
| acabot | bye | 09:57 |
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| jinquan | bye | 09:57 |
| jed56 | bye | 09:57 |
| tkaczynski | bye | 09:57 |
| danpawlik | bye | 09:57 |
| alexchadin | bye | 09:57 |
| jed56 | have a nice day or afternoon | 09:57 |
| danpawlik | u2 | 09:57 |
| ostroverkhov | bye | 09:57 |
| acabot | #endmeeting | 09:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 09:57 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 8 09:57:38 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-06-08-09.00.html | 09:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-06-08-09.00.txt | 09:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-06-08-09.00.log.html | 09:57 |
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| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 8 13:00:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 13:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | who is here today? | 13:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 13:00 |
| jichen | o/ | 13:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 13:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 13:00 |
| gmann_ | hi | 13:00 |
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| sdague | o/ | 13:00 |
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| alex_xu | hello everyone, let's start the meeting | 13:01 |
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| oomichi_ | hi | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | #topic actions from previous meeting | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "actions from previous meeting (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 13:01 | |
| Kevin_Zheng | o/ | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | action sdague to write up a spec about limitted (and deprecated) user_id support in policy in nova | 13:01 |
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| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324068/ | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | sdague: looks like it is waiting for more feedback | 13:02 |
| sdague | yeh, pretty much | 13:02 |
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| alex_xu | one question, does it mean we didn't want to check policy with target in the future? if we want to check policy with target in the future, that means user can enforcement policy by user_id also. | 13:03 |
| sdague | the only real -1 is over my language about "not being openstack" | 13:03 |
| sdague | alex_xu: it does mean that | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | sdague: ok, got it, clear now | 13:04 |
| sdague | the unit of permissions should be a project | 13:04 |
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| sdague | keypairs is the only place where that is weird.... | 13:04 |
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| sdague | but in general we should be talking about projects here | 13:04 |
| sdague | I tried to make this the smallest list possible | 13:04 |
| sdague | and responding to jichen unlock and unpause are specifically left out | 13:05 |
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| alex_xu | ok, without target, the policy discovery become easy also | 13:05 |
| sdague | alex_xu: yep | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | action: alex_xu to update policy docs to remove user_id references to server actions | 13:06 |
| sdague | the modern interpretation of policy is really project based | 13:06 |
| sdague | but it was a json file so people did crazy things in the past, and no one realized :) | 13:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so this all seems good, it seems I didn't submit my comments, but I was just wondering about changing the text for that "not openstack bit", I agree with what you mean though | 13:07 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh, we can word smith that for sure | 13:07 |
| alex_xu | sdague: not only keypair, also keystone use user_id, that was found when i update doc for user_id | 13:08 |
| sdague | alternative language is helpful, I was trying to get a first draft out there with the actions list detailed | 13:08 |
| sdague | alex_xu: well, keystone *is* different | 13:08 |
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| mriedem | #action alex_xu to update policy docs to remove user_id references to server actions | 13:08 |
| sdague | because keystone is about users | 13:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: totally, that list was the new data, and seems like an OK minimal list to me | 13:08 |
| sdague | so, in keystone, it's fine | 13:08 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/325645 | 13:08 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325648/ | 13:08 |
| sdague | but all other projects are about resources owned by projects, and that should be the permissions model | 13:09 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: yea, it was done, one of merged. due to keystone use it, i just added note about user_id and remove the wrong example for nova | 13:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: +1 | 13:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | so folks can be in multiple groups, and groups of one | 13:09 |
| sdague | alex_xu: yeh, merging that doc fix is good | 13:09 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: right | 13:09 |
| mriedem | i suppose cinder has this same issue probably | 13:10 |
| mriedem | and likewise manila, and maybe other projects that were created from nova | 13:10 |
| sdague | I think it also really shines a light on the hierarchical projects use case | 13:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: +1 | 13:10 |
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| sdague | because it turns out that hierarchical projects often don't need dedicated quotas :) | 13:11 |
| gmann_ | yea, glance too, i remember some test case update for thsoe | 13:11 |
| sdague | which is the hard problem that basically jammed up any future progress | 13:11 |
| sdague | mriedem: yeh, it might be. I think it's somewhat on those projects to keep an eye on it. | 13:12 |
| mriedem | we didn't know about it until the operators brought it up right? | 13:12 |
| mriedem | a courtesy heads up to the general dev list might be useful for xp stuff, even though there is a thread in the ops list | 13:13 |
| mriedem | just a thought | 13:13 |
| sdague | yeh, let's get the spec evolved first | 13:14 |
| mriedem | sure | 13:14 |
| sdague | I honestly think that cinder is the only likely place with similar issues | 13:14 |
| sdague | given the use cases that came forward | 13:14 |
| mriedem | btw, the abstract on your spec, | 13:14 |
| mriedem | exceptionally flowery - good work | 13:14 |
| mriedem | you said it would be | 13:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | well it is a big anniversary of Shakespeare this year | 13:15 |
| sdague | mriedem: :) | 13:15 |
| sdague | you have to do something to make it so people don't fall asleep reading specs | 13:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I certainly appreciate that, rightly or wrongly | 13:16 |
| sdague | ok, so I think we've covered that, please review the spec | 13:16 |
| sdague | next topic? | 13:17 |
| alex_xu | yup | 13:17 |
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| alex_xu | #topic API Priorities | 13:17 |
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| alex_xu | api-ref first | 13:18 |
| alex_xu | sdague: any news? | 13:18 |
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| sdague | we're down below 100 tags left - http://burndown.dague.org/ | 13:18 |
| sdague | the 0.3.0 os-api-ref went out on friday | 13:18 |
| sdague | that makes open/close sections stateful in the url | 13:19 |
| sdague | and fixes a microversion parsing issue so 2.1 != 2.10 | 13:19 |
| alex_xu | heh, cool | 13:19 |
| sdague | and... there is a microversion selector, though it requires a conf add to nova | 13:19 |
| gmann_ | wow, nice data presentation. | 13:19 |
| sdague | I'll push a review for that | 13:19 |
| gmann_ | sdague: you mean drop down selector for microversion ? | 13:20 |
| sdague | I was talking to mugsie, we'll probably have a pop up os-api-ref meeting for the rest of the cycle to work through items on it | 13:20 |
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| sdague | he's got a conversion to using the new openstackdocstheme that the rest of the docs moved to, but we have to be careful in how we cut folks over | 13:20 |
| gmann_ | sdague: but we are adding the microversion attributes in extising api-ref, do we need to undo thsoe? | 13:21 |
| sdague | gmann_: undo what? | 13:21 |
| gmann_ | i did not completly uderstood the benefit of adding those in v2.1 ref | 13:21 |
| gmann_ | like -https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325308/ | 13:22 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: i guess you will understand after you see the sample from sdague | 13:22 |
| * alex_xu try to find the link | 13:22 | |
| sdague | gmann_: http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/?expanded=list-servers-detail | 13:22 |
| sdague | for the same reason as things like ip6 and the like | 13:22 |
| sdague | and tags | 13:23 |
| alex_xu | here is https://dague.net/testing/api-ref/ | 13:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | adding that detail was really the point of the whole move | 13:23 |
| sdague | right, but even without the selector, the "New in" is important | 13:23 |
| sdague | just think about the entire python stdlib document | 13:23 |
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| gmann_ | but example shows v2.1 response only which can be confusing? | 13:24 |
| gmann_ | because first thing people look is on example | 13:24 |
| sdague | gmann_: if people are only going to look at examples, and not at the parameter definitions, there isn't much we can do about it | 13:25 |
| sdague | it's fine if we specify which version number the response / request for the example is based on | 13:25 |
| gmann_ | sdague: true but i was thinking if we adding microversion attribute in param then example also should include those. | 13:26 |
| gmann_ | or we show max microversion response/request | 13:26 |
| gmann_ | for that API | 13:26 |
| sdague | gmann_: maybe, though I think the example is that, an example | 13:26 |
| sdague | to show some structure | 13:26 |
| sdague | the parameter list is actually the definition | 13:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | once we have that selector across the top, I think we can change the examples to the "newest" example, but thats a follow up extra thing once we have the main data in there, I think | 13:27 |
| sdague | no API doc you've ever read has an example for every possible perterbation of parameters | 13:27 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: I'm also honestly a little unconvinced the selector is going to be clarifying vs. just more confusing to new folks | 13:27 |
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| gmann_ | yea they do not most of the case | 13:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: thats true, I just wonder about examples that are invalid in the latest version | 13:27 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: invalid is definitely different | 13:28 |
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| sdague | and I agree that we should be careful about that | 13:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | we could go for always show the newest samples, but thats also confusing, as it often includes stuff that is not available in the base version | 13:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think what we have is the best starting point | 13:28 |
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| sdague | but... we only have 1 instance of that around the service API right? | 13:28 |
| sdague | I guess the block device name as well | 13:28 |
| gmann_ | as we have sample for ech version then we can include those per version | 13:28 |
| mriedem | e.g. os-getVNCConsole Action and the other type-specific consoles are dead in like 2.5? | 13:28 |
| sdague | mriedem: yeh | 13:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | I was thinking about live-migrate removing params | 13:28 |
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| sdague | so we have a handful, and we're going to need to handle those. But I think we should think about this again as human first content | 13:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, its way better than before, where there was zero information | 13:29 |
| gmann_ | sdague: johnthetubaguy i was thinking if version selector bring up the new param in list | 13:29 |
| gmann_ | johnthetubaguy: +1 | 13:30 |
| sdague | so not build some random hide / show infrastructure for everything, but actually explain, in words, here is an example for X.Y | 13:30 |
| sdague | in X.Z we removed this parameter, so it now looks like | 13:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, the words I think are needed here | 13:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | we could have an example for each edge in each section | 13:30 |
| sdague | documentation is communication, words are needed when things aren't obvious | 13:30 |
| mriedem | that would help with get me a network, because today i'm just updating the description with notes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316398/9/api-ref/source/parameters.yaml | 13:30 |
| sdague | but that's human judgement | 13:30 |
| mriedem | would be good to show an example for the v2.31 microversion for get me a network | 13:31 |
| sdague | mriedem: yeh, get me a network is a good instance | 13:31 |
| mriedem | it changes server.networks to required and adds new values for networks.uuid, so it's wonky | 13:31 |
| sdague | mriedem: yep, fortunately, we can just add another chunk of examples super easy, it's just another include :) | 13:31 |
| mriedem | yeah | 13:31 |
| gmann_ | so if we have example for each version that will be more clear to understand each version update | 13:31 |
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| sdague | gmann_: honestly, no | 13:32 |
| sdague | it will just get super confusing at times | 13:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, thats going to be a disaster | 13:32 |
| sdague | explain it with words about what is different | 13:32 |
| mriedem | yeah, comparing json blobs with my human eye fails | 13:32 |
| sdague | mriedem: ++ | 13:32 |
| gmann_ | sdague: yea with word in param definition | 13:33 |
| alex_xu | good point~ | 13:33 |
| gmann_ | but where we are going to show microversion's response exmple etc | 13:33 |
| sdague | gmann_: we don't need to show every single possibility | 13:33 |
| alex_xu | it's good to have sample when structure changed. | 13:33 |
| gmann_ | sdague: hummm | 13:34 |
| sdague | also, http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/markup/code.html#directive-literalinclude allows you to have highlighted lines in the example. Which means we can even point out the critical parts | 13:34 |
| gmann_ | even some microversion change the response completly | 13:34 |
| mriedem | gmann_: i think the point is if it's drastic, an example is ok | 13:35 |
| sdague | gmann_: this isn't for machines, it's for humans, this is about ensuring you highlight the important change without drowning people in minor issues that make them miss the point | 13:35 |
| sdague | mriedem: sure | 13:35 |
| sdague | but just adding a couple of parameters to a response, really doesn't need another example in main docs | 13:35 |
| mriedem | we also have the rest api version history doc for more detailed prose on each microversion change | 13:35 |
| sdague | mriedem: yep | 13:35 |
| mriedem | move on? | 13:36 |
| sdague | yeh | 13:36 |
| alex_xu | for policy discovery | 13:36 |
| gmann_ | yea, may be we can go case by case there as per content changes | 13:36 |
| alex_xu | the spec for CLI merged last week | 13:37 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/289405 | 13:37 |
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| sdague | on the oslo side we're just waiting for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321243/ to land, and all oslo.policy changes will be in | 13:38 |
| alex_xu | yea, just found those landed | 13:38 |
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| alex_xu | yeah, the last one | 13:38 |
| sdague | I've been bugging folks to make sure we move this all forward | 13:38 |
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| sdague | hopefully we'll get that in this week, and an oslo.policy release | 13:39 |
| alex_xu | and i'm going to cleanup the policy rules for legacy v2 api | 13:39 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:remove_legacy_v2_policy | 13:39 |
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| alex_xu | the last two patch are https://review.openstack.org/325684 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320751/, i probably can make it ready before sleep | 13:40 |
| sdague | alex_xu: awesome | 13:40 |
| sdague | +A on the bottom 2 | 13:41 |
| sdague | all these deletes are exciting :) | 13:41 |
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| alex_xu | then the other legacy v2 cleanup can be running in backaround, nothing urgent. | 13:42 |
| alex_xu | sdague: yeah :) | 13:42 |
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| gmann_ | alex_xu: sdague will be quick for you, extension setting cleanup in sample tests- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326810/ | 13:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | once we are ready of the policy changes, I think the OSIC folks are keen to help with the heavy lifting of moving the defaults into code | 13:43 |
| sdague | gmann_: cool, will look after the meeting | 13:43 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: great | 13:43 |
| gmann_ | sdague: Thanks | 13:43 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: cool! | 13:43 |
| sdague | so... are we done with priorities? | 13:43 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: ++ | 13:43 |
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| alex_xu | i guess so | 13:43 |
| sdague | because I want to raise a thing about the v2.1 entry points (more for open discussion) | 13:43 |
| mriedem | what about api deprecations? | 13:43 |
| sdague | mriedem: right... I am still on the hook for a spec on the api deprecations (non proxy) | 13:44 |
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| sdague | I can probably write that up this week | 13:44 |
| mriedem | is code up for the proxy apis? | 13:44 |
| sdague | I'm only good with about 1 spec per week on authoring | 13:44 |
| sdague | mriedem: nope | 13:44 |
| mriedem | sdague: all specs and all code and all reviews all of the time | 13:44 |
| mriedem | c'mon | 13:44 |
| mriedem | np, was just wondering | 13:45 |
| sdague | mriedem: sorry, still working on API #1 priority, which is docs :) | 13:45 |
| sdague | and... the glance v2 land | 13:45 |
| mriedem | yeah i think technically policy and docs were priority | 13:45 |
| sdague | mriedem: yep | 13:45 |
| sdague | I'll get the spec up for the deprecations this week | 13:45 |
| sdague | the actual code probably won't happen till after midcycle for either, given what my schedule (including vacation) looks like between now and then | 13:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | is this something the OSIC folks could help with, I guess the spec will be quite prescriptive? | 13:46 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: yep, maybe | 13:46 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: the proxy one is approved | 13:47 |
| sdague | you could have them dive there now | 13:47 |
| mriedem | i'd caution, | 13:47 |
| mriedem | with maybe starting with one api proxy so we're comfortable with the pattern | 13:47 |
| mriedem | if the osic people are doing it | 13:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: good point, I will ask | 13:48 |
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| * alex_xu also free for some coding | 13:48 | |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, a good example to copy would be good | 13:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | sounds like alex_xu may have offered to do that bit | 13:48 |
| gmann_ | i can also help if needed | 13:48 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gmann_: sounds good | 13:48 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yeah, i can take a look at | 13:48 |
| sdague | ok, alex_xu / gmann_ if you want to start diving on that spec, that would be awesome | 13:49 |
| sdague | and help osic folks as they come up to speed | 13:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | ++ | 13:49 |
| gmann_ | sdague: sure | 13:49 |
| alex_xu | sdague: yeah | 13:49 |
| alex_xu | but i'm in vacation next week... | 13:50 |
| sdague | ok... are we good on that? | 13:50 |
| alex_xu | sdague: yea | 13:50 |
| mriedem | yup | 13:50 |
| sdague | because I have another item to start people thinking about | 13:50 |
| alex_xu | #topic open | 13:50 |
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| sdague | even though we deprecated and removed all our config options around extensions | 13:50 |
| sdague | we still have lots of things as entry points | 13:50 |
| sdague | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/f10349a60d8fd0c8556b9024e20c2b0349015be4/setup.cfg#L158-L170 | 13:50 |
| sdague | so people can back door some things | 13:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | the stevedoor stuff, good point | 13:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | feels like we should be dropping that stuff too? | 13:51 |
| sdague | while I think we should get rid of all of that... the thing I really think we need to prioritize getting rid of the the extending existing resources | 13:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, the messy bits, yeah | 13:51 |
| sdague | because that is super complicated and confusing code | 13:51 |
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| sdague | and causes bugs like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315964/2/nova/api/openstack/compute/extended_server_attributes.py | 13:52 |
| alex_xu | i guess that is the first step for deprecating extension | 13:52 |
| mriedem | is that like adding disk_config to the server response? | 13:52 |
| sdague | mriedem: yep | 13:52 |
| gmann_ | yea | 13:53 |
| mriedem | ok | 13:53 |
| sdague | mriedem: the point is not to change our responses, but to stop doing that in 8 different decorator hops | 13:53 |
| mriedem | mutated dicts via extension listeners is always a great stability pattern | 13:53 |
| sdague | mriedem: yeh, exactly | 13:53 |
| oomichi_ | but if merging all modules into a single place, the code servers.py will become huge and complicated | 13:53 |
| sdague | oomichi_: but it will be in one place | 13:54 |
| sdague | now it's huge, complicated, and distributed | 13:54 |
| mriedem | you can always break each part into private methods | 13:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: +1 | 13:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | its better than a single real entity spread between N files | 13:54 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: ++ | 13:54 |
| sdague | doing the api-ref docs work really drove home how confusing it is in the current format to even figure out what's in these responses without running all the code | 13:55 |
| sdague | and this directly inhibits people contributing | 13:55 |
| oomichi_ | humm, that seems difficult balance | 13:55 |
| mriedem | so, again, maybe we start with normalizing one of these and see the pattern | 13:56 |
| mriedem | before getting overwhelmed | 13:56 |
| sdague | mriedem: agreed | 13:56 |
| oomichi_ | and maybe servers.py still continues growing by additional microversions later if merging | 13:56 |
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| gmann_ | seems like main issue is with server.py which becomes too huge | 13:56 |
| oomichi_ | but yeah, I agree with that new developers will be confused due to current mechanism | 13:56 |
| sdague | oomichi_: if servers.py is too big and complicated for use to have it in our tree, the responses over the wire are probably too big and complicated for realize users | 13:56 |
| sdague | oomichi_: not just confused, and not just new developers | 13:57 |
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| gmann_ | but i like the mriedem idea to out in private methods | 13:57 |
| * alex_xu still feel we check microversion deep in the code. the coe become complex | 13:57 | |
| gmann_ | put | 13:57 |
| sdague | when mriedem was reviewing some api-ref change I had, we litterly had 2 hours of git links walking through where things were injected magically in resize | 13:58 |
| sdague | to prove we were right | 13:58 |
| sdague | with people that have worked on the project for 3 years | 13:58 |
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| johnthetubaguy | right, and we kinda know where to luck | 13:58 |
| mriedem | but i'm exceptionally dense | 13:58 |
| sdague | it's basically impossible for anyone else to understand this layer | 13:58 |
| mriedem | don't forget | 13:58 |
| gmann_ | sdague: :) truea and SHOW too | 13:58 |
| oomichi_ | sdague: yeah, nice point | 13:58 |
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| mriedem | 1 minutes | 13:59 |
| mriedem | *minute | 13:59 |
| sdague | so, I'll propose some small patches to unwind a thing here and see how it goes | 13:59 |
| alex_xu | oops, mriedem thanks | 13:59 |
| sdague | but start thinking about the fact that we want to get rid of these entry points | 13:59 |
| gmann_ | i also spent lot of time to re verify the response schema in tempest | 13:59 |
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| alex_xu | sorry, let's back to openstack-nova | 14:00 |
| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 8 14:00:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-06-08-13.00.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-06-08-13.00.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-06-08-13.00.log.html | 14:00 |
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| therve | #startmeeting heat | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 8 15:00:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is therve. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:00 | |
| therve | #topic Roll call | 15:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll call (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:00 | |
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| jdob | o/ | 15:00 |
| jaimguer | o/ | 15:00 |
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| jasond | o/ | 15:00 |
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| zaneb | howdy y'all | 15:00 |
| ananta | Hi | 15:00 |
| duvarenkov__ | hi | 15:00 |
| ramishra | hi | 15:00 |
| rpothier | o/ | 15:00 |
| cwolferh | o/ | 15:00 |
| spzala | o/ | 15:01 |
| Drago | o/ | 15:01 |
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| ochuprykov | hi | 15:01 |
| therve | OK! | 15:02 |
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| therve | #topic Adding items to agenda | 15:02 |
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| therve | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-06-08_1500_UTC.29 | 15:02 |
| therve | #topic Convergence status | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Convergence status (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:03 | |
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| therve | OK! I added this item because we missed the n1 release | 15:03 |
| therve | Got some small issues, like the tripleo skip not merged | 15:04 |
| therve | I believe it's in now, so we should proceed | 15:04 |
| ananta | therve: I think we are ready, we should discuss if there is something stopping us from doing so | 15:04 |
| shardy | therve: yup it merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321090/ | 15:05 |
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| prazumovsky | Hi! | 15:05 |
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| ricolin | o/ | 15:05 |
| therve | ananta, Oh the unittest one is even merged already? | 15:05 |
| jdandrea | o/ | 15:05 |
| ananta | yup | 15:05 |
| therve | Awesome | 15:05 |
| therve | Let's do this then :) | 15:05 |
| zaneb | SHIP. IT. | 15:05 |
| ananta | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325798/ | 15:06 |
| shardy | therve: I'm planning to get an experimental tripleo job working that enables it | 15:06 |
| jdob | three seconds later "Guys, the CI rack is literally on fire." | 15:06 |
| shardy | thanks to the patches from cwolferh, zaneb and others the heat memory utilization is looking quite a lot less bad now | 15:06 |
| therve | Wednesday is as good a day as any to break everybody :) | 15:06 |
| shardy | so it'll be interesting to see how much it explodes now | 15:06 |
| zaneb | shardy: nice, any numbers on that? | 15:07 |
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| therve | Please pay attention to CI breakage from other projects | 15:07 |
| shardy | I know stevebaker also has some db optimizations which I've been meaning to test | 15:07 |
| shardy | zaneb: I've got some locally but not yet plotted them - will try to do so later | 15:07 |
| zaneb | shardy: awesome, thanks | 15:07 |
| therve | #topic Performance improvements | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Performance improvements (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:07 | |
| therve | Retro topic! | 15:08 |
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| therve | shardy, Do you think we'll see some other things taking memory now that the files thing is fixed? | 15:08 |
| shardy | therve: I'm sure there are others, but that was definitely a big part of the problem | 15:09 |
| shardy | I'll try to quantify it later then we can decide how much effort to invest in further memory profiling etc | 15:09 |
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| therve | Yeah I was hoping it would clear things enough that we could see other problems | 15:10 |
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| therve | We'll see how it goes | 15:11 |
| therve | That makes me think of another topic | 15:11 |
| therve | #topic Refactor db API | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Refactor db API (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:11 | |
| shardy | I think the next big issue is DB optimization, e.g bug #1578854 | 15:11 |
| openstack | bug 1578854 in heat "resource-list makes SQL calls for every resource which is a nested stack" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1578854 - Assigned to Steve Baker (steve-stevebaker) | 15:11 |
| therve | zaneb, So the other day you mentioned having more transactions around db operations | 15:11 |
| shardy | we've got operators waiting well over 10 minutes for a single heat resource-list command :( | 15:11 |
| therve | There is this new enginefacade API in oslo_db which may make things more obvious | 15:12 |
| therve | shardy, Yeah I hope it will help | 15:12 |
| zaneb | shardy: doesn't it time out at 10 minutes even on an undercloud? | 15:12 |
| shardy | real 13m23.083s | 15:13 |
| shardy | it appears not | 15:13 |
| shardy | I'm not sure if config was modified tho | 15:13 |
| zaneb | maybe | 15:13 |
| therve | shardy, It's with -n5 or something though, right? | 15:13 |
| shardy | therve: Yeah, and it was a big deployment (about 300 nodes) | 15:14 |
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| therve | Yeah | 15:14 |
| zaneb | I've seen some of stevebaker's patches land already... looks like they should make a big difference | 15:14 |
| therve | But even some 100 sql queries shouldn't take 10 minutes :) | 15:14 |
| therve | Especially when heat has basically one user | 15:15 |
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| shardy | zaneb: cool, it'd be good to see if we can get them tested in some real large deployments - it's hard to really prove in dev environments | 15:15 |
| zaneb | therve: I suspect there is some n^2-ness to how the current queries work ;) | 15:15 |
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| therve | zaneb, Yeah I know... I reintroduced one recently even... | 15:16 |
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| therve | Because of that required by property | 15:16 |
| zaneb | shardy: just need to find some sucke^W testers to try it out | 15:17 |
| shardy | zaneb: heh, those with a spare few hundred nodes ideally ;) | 15:18 |
| shardy | slagle got some time on the OSIC cluster, I'll try to find out when that's happening | 15:18 |
| therve | #topic Pending reviews | 15:19 |
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| therve | So hum, we have some reviews around | 15:19 |
| therve | Please review! | 15:19 |
| therve | https://review.openstack.org/135492 seems ready to me, it'd be cool to have that in | 15:19 |
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| therve | The conditions thing is almost there, so if you want to have a look before it's too late, please do | 15:20 |
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| therve | cc zaneb :) | 15:20 |
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| zaneb | yeah, need to re-review that then | 15:20 |
| therve | And yeah the performance tweaks by stevebaker too | 15:21 |
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| therve | Though I'd like rally to be working before, but well :) | 15:21 |
| jdob | are thsoe tweaks under the same topic? | 15:21 |
| jdob | or just look for baker patches | 15:21 |
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| therve | jdob, I think there are a bunch of them | 15:23 |
| shardy | I'd like to see stevebaker's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280963/ stack failures list patch land | 15:23 |
| therve | At least bug/1588561 and bug/1578854 | 15:23 |
| shardy | we'll probably enable it by default in tripleoclient | 15:23 |
| jdob | kk | 15:23 |
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| therve | shardy, It seems to query all the resources? | 15:25 |
| shardy | therve: it recurses over the failed ones, yes | 15:25 |
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| therve | shardy, I mean it does a plain resources.list() and then filter on the result, instead of just querying the failed ones | 15:25 |
| shardy | probably scope for optimization, but the output it provides is good | 15:26 |
| shardy | therve: aha | 15:26 |
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| ramishra | therve: what about the external_id patch? I've raised an issue, though there may not be an easy fix for it atm. | 15:26 |
| ramishra | so probably can go in. | 15:26 |
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| therve | ramishra, I don't really understand your concern | 15:27 |
| therve | You mean you can't reference a removed resource from the properties? | 15:28 |
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| ramishra | therve: if we leave the properties with a reference to another resource in the template(for a external resource) | 15:28 |
| ramishra | then it's used for dependency calculation | 15:29 |
| ramishra | so when that dependant resource is removed from the template it would fail | 15:29 |
| ramishra | when you try to update | 15:29 |
| therve | That seems correct to me? | 15:29 |
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| therve | I don't understand which behavior you're expecting | 15:29 |
| therve | Completely ignore the properties of the external resource? | 15:30 |
| ramishra | It would not fail, when the reference is there. | 15:30 |
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| ramishra | yes, ignore them for dep calculation, or don't to dep calculation for external resource | 15:31 |
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| therve | I don't really see why. | 15:31 |
| therve | Maybe it's worth documenting it, but it seems reasonable as-is to me | 15:31 |
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| ramishra | what's the deps for external resource mean? | 15:31 |
| zaneb | without having looked at the patch, I don't think we would ever want to ignore anything in the dependency calculation | 15:32 |
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| zaneb | but this is perhaps a topic best discussed after the meeting :) | 15:32 |
| therve | ramishra, Not much, but that's a user problem | 15:32 |
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| therve | Don't add dep to other resources if you have an external resource | 15:32 |
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| therve | Yeah | 15:33 |
| therve | #topic Open discussions | 15:33 |
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| zaneb | I had one thing to make folks aware of | 15:33 |
| ramishra | I've one more thing to discuss, why do we have policy enforcement for resource_types in heat default policy. Don't they mask the policies from the services. | 15:34 |
| jdob | i have a quick one: Kanagaraj and I have been working towards a PoC and spec changes for the hot-template stuff, so there should be something to show in the next few days | 15:34 |
| therve | ramishra, They allow providers to give a better user experience | 15:35 |
| therve | jdob, Awesome! | 15:35 |
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| zaneb | back in Kilo when we split nested stacks and called them over RPC, we didn't have a way of cancelling them if another failure occurred in the parent stack, with the result that the user has to wait for everything to time out after a failed operation before they could try again | 15:36 |
| zaneb | we put in code to fix this on updates in Liberty | 15:36 |
| zaneb | unfortunately that code is not working even in Mitaka :( | 15:36 |
| zaneb | also, we don't have any code that even attempts to cancel creates | 15:37 |
| ramishra | therve: hmmm.. I am not sure how that's better experience, when there can be possibilty of conflicts in the heat policy vs service policy | 15:37 |
| zaneb | and if the code was present/working it would still be doing stuff wrong | 15:37 |
| zaneb | so that's what I'm working on at the moment :) | 15:37 |
| therve | ramishra, http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/heat-specs/specs/liberty/conditional-resource-exposure-roles.html was approved | 15:38 |
| zaneb | ramishra: eventually there's going to be a keystone API for this. in the meantime this is probably the best we can do | 15:38 |
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| therve | zaneb, That's cool. Do you think that will touch what we talked about with regards to transactions? | 15:39 |
| zaneb | therve: hopefully we're going to interrupt threads at yield points instead of randomly, so that may solve/mask many of the problems | 15:40 |
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| therve | zaneb, Hummm. Don't we do that already? | 15:40 |
| zaneb | therve: but I still think we should use transactions for everything | 15:40 |
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| ramishra | zaneb: my suggestion is to get rid of them, anyway user will get to know about service policy enforcements. Though I know there would not be many takers for this:) | 15:41 |
| zaneb | therve: for stack-cancel-update yes. but when you initiate a delete it just kills the thread | 15:41 |
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| zaneb | therve: it will be a lot of work to do this everywhere though. and even then there will be times when we have to kill a thread as a fallback | 15:42 |
| therve | zaneb, Right, but kill an eventlet thread is just raising an exception at yield point | 15:42 |
| therve | AFAIU at least | 15:42 |
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| zaneb | therve: by 'yield' I meant explicit 'yield' in a co-routine. so can't happen in the middle of a series of DB operations like eventlet switch can | 15:43 |
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| therve | Ah, okay | 15:43 |
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| zaneb | ramishra: that's what we used to have and it was terrible ;) | 15:44 |
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| therve | Well I'm very interested in that work at any rate :) | 15:44 |
| zaneb | ramishra: we had to keep admin-only resource plugins in /contrib. this is the price of moving everything in-tree | 15:44 |
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| zaneb | therve: great, you can review my mega patch series when it's ready ;) | 15:45 |
| therve | :D | 15:45 |
| therve | OK, anything else? | 15:45 |
| zaneb | er, that read wrong. it's a very long series, not a series of very long patches | 15:45 |
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| cwolferh | feedback on change 303692 (resource properties data data model change) would be appreciated, especially last comment | 15:46 |
| therve | I totally expected 28 patches each 13 lines long by reading that :) | 15:46 |
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| therve | cwolferh, Do you mean https://review.openstack.org/267953 ? | 15:47 |
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| cwolferh | er, right, the other patch :-) | 15:48 |
| therve | cwolferh, So yeah that test interacts with other tests somewhat on purpose | 15:48 |
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| therve | The purge is something operators are going to run while heat is running, so it needs to work while stuff is happening | 15:48 |
| zaneb | therve: they're not going to run it with time=0 though, surely? | 15:49 |
| cwolferh | i'm not sure purge_deleted 0 should really be encouraged, but ok | 15:49 |
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| therve | zaneb, They're not, but I'm not sure it should make a difference? | 15:49 |
| cwolferh | well, the good thing at least, it didn't cause the other tests to fail | 15:50 |
| therve | I'm not sure why it's suddenly a problem with the new table | 15:50 |
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| therve | If you calculate what to remove correctly it should work as usual | 15:51 |
| cwolferh | i'm not sure it wasn't stepping on other things and not being noticed before | 15:51 |
| therve | I'm pretty sure it was stepping on other things and some issue were found :) | 15:52 |
| zaneb | therve: if we e.g. write the DELETE_COMPLETE event after marking the stack DELETE_COMPLETE then there could be a race there that only occurs if with purge_deleted 0 | 15:52 |
| zaneb | and that's not necessarily an illegitimate way to do it, although it does sound fixable | 15:53 |
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| zaneb | although stack-level events should have properties attached anyway... | 15:54 |
| therve | zaneb, events reference stacks though? | 15:54 |
| therve | So we would see this issue on master | 15:54 |
| zaneb | the failure was an event referencing a deleted properties data row iirc | 15:55 |
| cwolferh | right | 15:55 |
| cwolferh | also a resource | 15:55 |
| zaneb | we can move this one back to #heat too I think | 15:55 |
| therve | Sure | 15:55 |
| cwolferh | yep | 15:55 |
| therve | #endmeeting | 15:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 8 15:55:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-06-08-15.00.html | 15:55 |
| therve | Thanks all! | 15:55 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-06-08-15.00.txt | 15:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-06-08-15.00.log.html | 15:55 |
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| HenryG | kevinbenton: boden: ping | 17:31 |
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| boden | HenryG: pong | 17:31 |
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| HenryG | boden: It looks like it's just you and me | 17:32 |
| HenryG | boden: Anything you want to discuss today? | 17:32 |
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| boden | I still have some patches out for review if you find time | 17:32 |
| boden | also a question | 17:32 |
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| HenryG | boden: ack | 17:33 |
| HenryG | boden: Should I start the meeting so it's logged? | 17:33 |
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| boden | its just a qucik question | 17:33 |
| boden | but if you want we can | 17:33 |
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| HenryG | #startmeeting networking_lib | 17:33 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 8 17:33:53 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is HenryG. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:33 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:33 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_lib' | 17:33 |
| HenryG | #topic Open discussion | 17:34 |
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| boden | question: do we have any interest in beefing up the py src docs as things coming into lib, or better to just leave as-is for now | 17:34 |
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| boden | perhaps documenting the params, etc. | 17:34 |
| HenryG | boden: I was thinking about that too, earlier | 17:34 |
| HenryG | It's easier to review if it is as-is on the initial patch. Also it ensures nothing breaks. | 17:35 |
| boden | understood | 17:35 |
| boden | perhaps we can revisit later | 17:36 |
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| HenryG | I think we should welcome doc-string and comment patches after that. | 17:36 |
| boden | +1 | 17:36 |
| boden | also just an FYI, there’s an interesting neutron-lib question on the dev ML: | 17:37 |
| boden | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/096841.html | 17:37 |
| HenryG | Yes, I will try to answer that, and I am sure dougwig and armax may chime in. | 17:38 |
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| boden | nothing else from me | 17:39 |
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| HenryG | I'd like to note one thing... | 17:39 |
| HenryG | There is a lack of core reviewer attention in neutron-lib. We may need to add more core reviewers. I will discuss this with the PTL. | 17:40 |
| boden | agree.. it’s been pretty slow getting patches through | 17:40 |
| boden | I’ve been doing my best to stay on the reviews | 17:41 |
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| HenryG | Nothing more from me. | 17:42 |
| HenryG | #endmeeting | 17:42 |
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| boden | ok thanks HenryG. have a good one | 17:42 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 8 17:42:30 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_lib/2016/networking_lib.2016-06-08-17.33.html | 17:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_lib/2016/networking_lib.2016-06-08-17.33.txt | 17:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_lib/2016/networking_lib.2016-06-08-17.33.log.html | 17:42 |
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| RaginBajin | #startmeeting operators_ops_tools_monitoring | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 8 19:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is RaginBajin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| RaginBajin | o/ | 19:00 |
| RaginBajin | Giving everyone a few minutes.. This will probably be a short meeting as there isn't a lot on the agenda. | 19:01 |
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| RaginBajin | The agenda can be found here - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osops-irc-meeting-20160608 | 19:01 |
| RaginBajin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osops-irc-meeting-20160608 | 19:01 |
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| RaginBajin | Ok. Since there is no one else here for this meeting today. I am going to end this meeting and we'll try this again in two weeks. Odd weeks only. | 19:15 |
| RaginBajin | #endmeeting | 19:15 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 8 19:15:15 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_ops_tools_monitoring/2016/operators_ops_tools_monitoring.2016-06-08-19.00.html | 19:15 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_ops_tools_monitoring/2016/operators_ops_tools_monitoring.2016-06-08-19.00.txt | 19:15 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_ops_tools_monitoring/2016/operators_ops_tools_monitoring.2016-06-08-19.00.log.html | 19:15 |
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| sdake | #startmeeting kolla | 23:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 8 23:00:30 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 23:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 23:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 23:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 23:00 |
| sdake | #topic rollcall | 23:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 23:00 | |
| inc0 | o/ | 23:00 |
| sdake | \o/ | 23:00 |
| inc0 | hmmm... | 23:01 |
| Jeffrey4l | o/ | 23:01 |
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| inc0 | sooo...we don't seem to have quorum | 23:01 |
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| harlowja | \o | 23:02 |
| sdake | yup this time slot doesn't seem very condusive to executing our project | 23:02 |
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| harlowja | i made it | 23:02 |
| harlowja | ha | 23:02 |
| sdake | which is why coolsvap suggested I think changing it | 23:02 |
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| inc0 | yeah | 23:02 |
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| inc0 | Jeffrey4l, EU folks and India can't attend | 23:03 |
| sdake | let me do announcments real quick and then I'll cancel the meeting for today | 23:03 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l, sorry;) I was meant to ask you what's time is it now for you | 23:03 |
| sdake | #topic announcements | 23:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 23:03 | |
| sdake | 1) there is a discussion about moving this meeting to 16:00 UTC | 23:03 |
| Jeffrey4l | it is 7:00 am now. | 23:03 |
| sdake | on the mailing list | 23:04 |
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| wirehead_ | o/ | 23:04 |
| sdake | I am pretty sure we will end up doing that :) | 23:04 |
| sdake | 2) Kolla midcycle has been scheduled | 23:04 |
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| sdake | July 12th, 13th at Ansible HQ in Durham, NC | 23:04 |
| wirehead_ | Yeah, this time slot is mildly easier for me, but I’ll take the inconvenience of the earlier slot because I might be mostly alone. | 23:04 |
| sdake | 3) We have 3 weeks on a 130 node cluster thanks to osic shortly after the midcycle | 23:05 |
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| sdake | we can use that time to do more extensive scale testing then we have already done | 23:05 |
| sdake | and possibly also do some dev if its easy - like cells or multi-region | 23:05 |
| sdake | that is my end of announcements | 23:05 |
| sdake | anyone else have anything before we conclude the meeting? | 23:06 |
| sdake | ok thanks for coming | 23:06 |
| wirehead_ | Cool. | 23:07 |
| sdake | in the future, our meetings will be at 16:00 utc | 23:07 |
| sdake | i'll get the ball rolling on making the changes in infrastructure | 23:07 |
| Jeffrey4l | OK | 23:07 |
| sdake | this should help attendance -a as at the 16:00 utc slot we usually have about 10-15people | 23:07 |
| sdake | see ya :) | 23:07 |
| sdake | #endmeeting | 23:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 23:08 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 8 23:08:00 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:08 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-06-08-23.00.html | 23:08 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-06-08-23.00.txt | 23:08 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-06-08-23.00.log.html | 23:08 |
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| harlowja | man i just got back from getting a soda | 23:09 |
| harlowja | and the meetings over already | 23:09 |
| harlowja | lol | 23:09 |
| Mech422 | lol - I went to make coffee .... | 23:10 |
| Mech422 | adds a new twist to 'stand up' meetings :-) | 23:10 |
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| harlowja | ya, stood up | 23:12 |
| harlowja | then sat back down | 23:12 |
| harlowja | lol | 23:12 |
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