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| vikasc | banix, ping | 02:58 |
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| banix | hi vikas | 02:59 |
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| vikasc | are we just about to start meeting? | 03:00 |
| banix | kuryr channel may be better | 03:00 |
| banix | hmmm not sure; tfukushima are you having the meeting now? | 03:01 |
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| tfukushima | #startmeeting kuryr | 03:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 31 03:02:54 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tfukushima. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 03:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 03:02 |
| tfukushima | Hi, who's up for the Kuryr weekly meeting? | 03:03 |
| vikasc | o/ | 03:03 |
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| tfukushima | vikasc: It seems you and me. :-) | 03:04 |
| vikasc | :D | 03:04 |
| vikasc | banix, was also here | 03:04 |
| tfukushima | #info vikasc and tfukushima are present | 03:04 |
| tfukushima | banix: Do you want to join us? | 03:05 |
| banix | yes i am here. Vikas woke me up :) just kidding | 03:05 |
| tfukushima | #info banix is also present | 03:06 |
| vikasc | i would like to discuss addressspaces/scopes on my turn :) | 03:06 |
| tfukushima | So, we don't have the agenda today unfortunately | 03:07 |
| tfukushima | #topic IPAM driver | 03:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "IPAM driver (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 03:07 | |
| tfukushima | Let's start off with addressspaces/scopes topic. | 03:07 |
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| vikasc | thanks | 03:08 |
| vikasc | https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/23025 | 03:08 |
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| vikasc | Recently banix observed this problem in subnet determining logic where two docker networks are launched with same cidr subnets | 03:09 |
| vikasc | As tfukushima banix , we have already discussed this on ml, it should be fine if I skip problem description part | 03:10 |
| banix | yes pls go ahead | 03:10 |
| vikasc | now to solve this problem, I could see two possible solutions. One short term and other long term permanent | 03:11 |
| vikasc | long term permanent will be mapping docker addressSpaces with neutron addressScopes | 03:11 |
| vikasc | have mentione details here in this bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kuryr/+spec/address-scopes-spaces | 03:12 |
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| vikasc | and problem is many backends dont support neutron addressscopes at the moment | 03:12 |
| tfukushima | Hmm, what is the short term solution? | 03:13 |
| vikasc | so for that, we can fix this issue by fetching poolId info using docker "network inspect" api for particular network, at network creation time | 03:13 |
| vikasc | but unfortunately, at the moment docker inspect api doesnt give poolid info | 03:14 |
| vikasc | for that i have raised a pull request in docker, https://github.com/docker/docker/pull/23028 | 03:14 |
| tfukushima | Dah, that's unfortunate. | 03:15 |
| vikasc | one more problem is, | 03:15 |
| banix | would using ipam-options be an option? as ugly as that may be? | 03:15 |
| vikasc | though internally docker ipam supports addressspaces, it doesnt provide an option to pass addressspaces | 03:15 |
| vikasc | banix, I tried that too | 03:16 |
| vikasc | but nothing from ipam options is passed to network create command arguments | 03:16 |
| vikasc | I have opened an issue with docker for providing option to set address-spaces at network creation time, https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/23076 | 03:17 |
| banix | and at the cli for network create, the network id is not known yet to have it passed to ipam driver | 03:17 |
| vikasc | banix, exactly | 03:17 |
| vikasc | not sure how other drivers are able to manage | 03:18 |
| vikasc | some relevant discussion about addressscopes and all can also be found on here, https://github.com/docker/libnetwork/issues/489 | 03:19 |
| vikasc | Though its very long | 03:19 |
| vikasc | i went through it and summary is like addressscopes is the answer to handle this mapping between poolids and cidrs as per aboch | 03:20 |
| vikasc | At one instance in this discussion, he said that in future he will be adding support for addressscopes in UI/cli, but as of now its not there | 03:21 |
| vikasc | now waiting for thoughts from banix tfukushima | 03:21 |
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| tfukushima | Probably we should document this discussion since there's no complete solution just for now. | 03:22 |
| vikasc | tfukushima, document means like some spec? I have tried to cover most of it in bp | 03:23 |
| banix | i think the main thing is the feedback we get from docker guys so we can get an idea what the chances of vikas’s proposal is | 03:23 |
| tfukushima | Some improvements need to be done both in Docker and our libnetwork plugin. | 03:23 |
| vikasc | tfukushima, agree | 03:24 |
| vikasc | so in docker i am pushing for approaches, short term(inspect) and long term(addressspace option) | 03:25 |
| vikasc | but not getting any responses | 03:25 |
| banix | we are going through a long weekend in the us; hopefully we hear from them soon | 03:25 |
| vikasc | Would appreciate if some of our kuryr community guys help there and chime in | 03:25 |
| tfukushima | I'd like to see some notes in, the devref for instance, other than the blueprint since it's not much visible from users in my opinion. | 03:26 |
| vikasc | sure tfukushima | 03:26 |
| vikasc | will addup there current state | 03:26 |
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| tfukushima | vikasc: Thanks. | 03:26 |
| tfukushima | #link blueprint for IPAM issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/kuryr/+bug/1585572 | 03:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1585572 in kuryr "Incorrect logic of subnet fetching in /IpamDriver.RequestAddress handling" [High,In progress] - Assigned to vikas choudhary (choudharyvikas16) | 03:27 |
| vikasc | tfukushima, this is related to same discussion | 03:27 |
| tfukushima | Ooops, it was a bug report, isn't it? | 03:28 |
| vikasc | tfukushima, yes | 03:28 |
| vikasc | :) | 03:28 |
| vikasc | tfukushima, i got it.. you want me to add a spec in devref for this addressspaces/scopes mapping, mentioning current status | 03:29 |
| tfukushima | vikasc: Yes, it'd be very appreciated. | 03:30 |
| vikasc | tfukushima, sure.. no problem | 03:30 |
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| tfukushima | Good. | 03:30 |
| vikasc | my part is done | 03:31 |
| tfukushima | Maybe it takes some time and the doc would be helpful users until we have the legitimate solution for the issue. | 03:31 |
| vikasc | tfukushima, +1 | 03:32 |
| tfukushima | Ok, thanks, vikasc. Do you have anything to add, banix? | 03:32 |
| banix | no i am good | 03:32 |
| tfukushima | Let's go on. | 03:32 |
| banix | i will follow up vikas’s issues at libnetwork, etc | 03:33 |
| vikasc | banix, i reaaly need you help there :) | 03:33 |
| tfukushima | banix: Thanks. | 03:33 |
| vikasc | these docker folks seems very rigid and inflexible | 03:33 |
| tfukushima | That's a known issue since the beginning. :-) | 03:35 |
| vikasc | :D | 03:35 |
| tfukushima | I understand they have tons of tasks and they don't have enough resources to handle all of issues though. | 03:35 |
| vikasc | agree | 03:35 |
| vikasc | and sometimes that kind of control is required for project stability and performance | 03:35 |
| tfukushima | Yes. It'd take some time and let's not to have expectations too high. | 03:36 |
| vikasc | :) | 03:36 |
| tfukushima | #topic K8s integration | 03:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "K8s integration (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 03:36 | |
| tfukushima | So my devref was merged a while ago. | 03:37 |
| tfukushima | #link Raven devref https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301426/ | 03:38 |
| tfukushima | As you know, it has many typos and style issues. | 03:38 |
| tfukushima | I'll fix them but they'd be done separately. | 03:39 |
| vikasc | incrementally we can improve | 03:39 |
| vikasc | i have one general query, will ask in "open discussion" | 03:40 |
| tfukushima | Ok, I don't have much progress to we can move there shortly. | 03:40 |
| tfukushima | We'll submit the implementation patches to the upstream in the near future. | 03:41 |
| tfukushima | Although we'd have some discussion on some things like the usage of Python3. | 03:42 |
| tfukushima | That's it from my side. | 03:42 |
| vikasc | tfukushima, please conside me available in case any help is needed. | 03:42 |
| tfukushima | vikasc: Sure. I will. | 03:43 |
| vikasc | ok, shall i ask my query now? | 03:43 |
| tfukushima | #topic Open discussion | 03:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 03:43 | |
| tfukushima | vikasc: Please go ahead. | 03:44 |
| vikasc | i was going through nested-containers spec, https://github.com/openstack/kuryr/blob/master/doc/source/specs/mitaka/nested_containers.rst#L87 | 03:44 |
| vikasc | it is talking about kuryr agent and kuryr server. agent on all compute machines and server on controller | 03:44 |
| vikasc | I could not understand the objective of kuryr server. | 03:45 |
| vikasc | kuryr agent on compute machines itself can query neutron for internal tags, subport ids, etc etc | 03:46 |
| vikasc | Can you guys please share your understanding? | 03:47 |
| vikasc | or should i post it on ml | 03:47 |
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| tfukushima | It is the best to ask fawadkhaliq but he's not here today. So, probably posting to the ML is the nice way to do that. | 03:49 |
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| vikasc | tfukushima, thanks.. had that in mind. But thought may be can ask fawad directly in meeting | 03:49 |
| vikasc | tfukushima, what is your take on this. | 03:50 |
| vikasc | tfukushima, I was thinking may be its too naive to ask. | 03:51 |
| tfukushima | From this description https://github.com/openstack/kuryr/blob/master/doc/source/specs/mitaka/nested_containers.rst#L185-L196 , it seems he thought there're some cases we need to separate the functionality of Kuryr between the VM and the host. | 03:51 |
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| tfukushima | Or Kuryr server is the single instance across the hosts. | 03:52 |
| tfukushima | For instance, it could be an API watcher in K8s context. | 03:53 |
| vikasc | tfukushima, may be kuryr server is for the hosts functionality running on controller | 03:53 |
| vikasc | and agent inside vm. | 03:53 |
| tfukushima | Yes, I was forgetting that was the nested container proposal. | 03:54 |
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| vikasc | tfukushima, hmm | 03:54 |
| tfukushima | vikasc: I can only give my guesses and it's the best to ask him. :-) | 03:55 |
| tfukushima | Or his implementations would follow. | 03:55 |
| vikasc | tfukushima, thanks , will catch up him :) | 03:55 |
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| tfukushima | Good. | 03:55 |
| tfukushima | So let's wrap it up. | 03:56 |
| tfukushima | #link Current Kuryr open patches https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/kuryr | 03:56 |
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| tfukushima | Ooops, that was all patches. | 03:57 |
| vikasc | :) | 03:57 |
| tfukushima | #link Current (real) Kuryr open patches https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/kuryr+status:open | 03:57 |
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| tfukushima | We have a bunch of patches, so please look at them, guys when you have some time. | 03:58 |
| banix | will do | 03:58 |
| vikasc | will do | 03:58 |
| tfukushima | #action vikasc asks fawadkhaliq about "Kuryr server" | 03:58 |
| tfukushima | #action Everyone reviews the patches | 03:59 |
| tfukushima | Ok, that's it. Thanks for attending guys. | 03:59 |
| vikasc | thanks | 03:59 |
| tfukushima | #endmeeting | 03:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 03:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 31 03:59:39 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-05-31-03.02.html | 03:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-05-31-03.02.txt | 03:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-05-31-03.02.log.html | 03:59 |
| banix | thanks | 03:59 |
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| myatsenko | @francois | 08:10 |
| myatsenko | hello, | 08:10 |
| myatsenko | yes, version of ldap_plugin for Fuel9 will be based on https://github.com/openstack/fuel-plugin-ldap, | 08:10 |
| myatsenko | but the code will be updated to support additional features. | 08:10 |
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| cznewt | #startmeeting openstack-salt | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 31 13:01:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cznewt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-salt)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_salt' | 13:01 |
| cznewt | #topic roll call | 13:01 |
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| cznewt | o/ | 13:02 |
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| genunix | o/ | 13:02 |
| cznewt | hello genunix :) | 13:03 |
| cznewt | welcome from cold toscany | 13:03 |
| genunix | Hello from Czech :-) | 13:04 |
| cznewt | well, today it seems the attendance is small, so we'll make it quick | 13:05 |
| cznewt | #topic introduction | 13:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "introduction (Meeting topic: openstack-salt)" | 13:05 | |
| cznewt | This meeting is for the openstack-salt team | 13:05 |
| cznewt | If you're interested in contributing to the discussion, please join #openstack-salt | 13:05 |
| cznewt | Meetings are Weekly on Tuesdays at 1300UTC | 13:05 |
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| cznewt | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#OpenStack_Salt_Team_Meeting | 13:05 |
| cznewt | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-salt | 13:06 |
| cznewt | #topic Review past action items | 13:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review past action items (Meeting topic: openstack-salt)" | 13:06 | |
| cznewt | last time, the meeting was cancelled, but the issue discussed was alignment our work with salt stack community | 13:08 |
| cznewt | if I may quote Thomas Hatch here: I don't think that we should look into merging these with our openstack states, yours are much more thought out and have had more time dedicated to being a unified design, so I would say to not try to merge. Your model looks very nice and is made in a highly reusable way, so I am all on board with saying that we over at Saltstack should look into updating how we push out openst | 13:08 |
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| jpavlik | hello all | 13:09 |
| cznewt | hello latecommer :) | 13:09 |
| cznewt | I just posted thomas reply to the integration of formula ecosystem of openstack-salt | 13:10 |
| cznewt | the resolution is: we will make the formulas compatible with the latest standards | 13:11 |
| cznewt | to comply with SPM, it is matter of one file | 13:11 |
| cznewt | and then we will propose a standard interoperability guidelines for advanced formula metadata | 13:12 |
| cznewt | #action newt: make sure formulas are SPM compliant and registered | 13:12 |
| cznewt | #action cznewt make sure formulas are SPM compliant and registered | 13:12 |
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| cznewt | #topic Today's Agenda | 13:13 |
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| cznewt | the saltstack based docker image creation | 13:14 |
| cznewt | can genunix or jpavlik tell us more? | 13:14 |
| genunix | it's almost done :-) | 13:15 |
| genunix | #link https://github.com/tcpcloud/docker-salt | 13:15 |
| genunix | We've got images, jpavlik is now preparing docker-compose for simple dev setup and marco is working on Kubernetes setup. | 13:16 |
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| jpavlik | yes, we are almost done. This approach can be used for CI as well. | 13:16 |
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| cznewt | will we keep the dockerfiles in separate repository? | 13:17 |
| cznewt | or include it within the formulas? | 13:17 |
| genunix | I would keep it separate | 13:18 |
| genunix | actually dockerfile is still the same, just the service name differs, so I would maybe simply generate it. | 13:19 |
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| jpavlik | docker compose is for docker-salt repository testing | 13:19 |
| cznewt | yes, that is the most prefferable way | 13:19 |
| jpavlik | nothing more | 13:19 |
| jpavlik | docker-salt repo builds your containers by salt formulas and then you can launch them through one compose.yml | 13:20 |
| jpavlik | for testing | 13:20 |
| cznewt | regardung this: are there any services to add to openstack repos? | 13:20 |
| jpavlik | target platform is still kubernetes | 13:20 |
| jpavlik | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322000/ | 13:21 |
| jpavlik | every service has this | 13:21 |
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| cznewt | shall we place the kubernetes and swift repos under the openstack CI? | 13:22 |
| cznewt | do we agree that we should? | 13:22 |
| jpavlik | yes | 13:22 |
| jpavlik | definatelly | 13:22 |
| jpavlik | kubernetes formula must out | 13:22 |
| jpavlik | as well as swift | 13:22 |
| cznewt | #action cznewt add kubernetes and switf repos to opesntack-salt project repos | 13:23 |
| jpavlik | and what about docker-salt? | 13:23 |
| cznewt | now the issue of salt documentation under docs.openstack.org | 13:23 |
| jpavlik | do you think that it can be usefull? | 13:23 |
| jpavlik | to put under openstak as well? | 13:23 |
| cznewt | docker salt ... I'd put the scripts to openstack-salt repo and generate the dockerfiles | 13:24 |
| cznewt | what does genunix think? | 13:24 |
| cznewt | and there's one more repo that may be added under openstack and it is the metadata model containing repo with all possible deployment combinations | 13:26 |
| cznewt | to test reviews for example, test all possible combinations of operating sysstem, openstack versions and networking and virtualization, etc ... | 13:27 |
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| genunix | dunno | 13:28 |
| cznewt | But I'm not sure, but it can stay on github | 13:28 |
| genunix | don't have an opinion yet :) | 13:28 |
| cznewt | genunix: the last message goes to my previous messages | 13:28 |
| cznewt | genunix: there are already several scripts | 13:28 |
| genunix | it could go to openstack-salt when finished | 13:28 |
| cznewt | yes, I think it will be the best spot | 13:29 |
| genunix | I would wait before we are done | 13:29 |
| cznewt | #agreed | 13:29 |
| majklk | from my point of view, it doesn't matter where the scripts lives now when is under heavy development | 13:29 |
| majklk | since stable release we can move it to the final location | 13:29 |
| cznewt | yes, I see your point | 13:29 |
| cznewt | hello majklk | 13:30 |
| majklk | hi bro | 13:30 |
| cznewt | nice to see you | 13:30 |
| majklk | yes, miss you here | 13:31 |
| cznewt | the docs.openstack.org, the documentation moving there, does anyone have time to look at it? I've made some progress but I'm stuck | 13:31 |
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| cznewt | if not, I'll have to push it | 13:31 |
| jpavlik | push it | 13:32 |
| jpavlik | it must be there | 13:32 |
| cznewt | #action cznewt deploy the documentation to proper place | 13:32 |
| cznewt | #action genunix finish the docker deployment scripts | 13:32 |
| jpavlik | I need to leave now | 13:33 |
| jpavlik | so thanks guys | 13:33 |
| cznewt | bye jakob | 13:33 |
| cznewt | we have made progress with deployments by heat and vagrant | 13:35 |
| cznewt | it is under heavy finalisation | 13:35 |
| cznewt | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321260/ | 13:36 |
| genunix | good | 13:36 |
| cznewt | it provides a way to test openstack-salt in any form, we need to get it documented thoroughly and prepare basic set of valid parameter combinations | 13:37 |
| cznewt | we need to get it out for the community to test the review options | 13:37 |
| cznewt | #action cznewt to document the changes to development deployments | 13:38 |
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| cznewt | this all from todays agenda | 13:39 |
| cznewt | #topic Open Discussion | 13:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: openstack-salt)" | 13:39 | |
| cznewt | well we have 20 minutes to go | 13:39 |
| cznewt | do you have anything more to discuss? | 13:39 |
| cznewt | does anyone has anything else to say? [sounds like killbill quote :)] | 13:41 |
| cznewt | well, I'll end the meeting then a little earlier, as I have a pressing issue to attend | 13:45 |
| cznewt | thanks all | 13:45 |
| cznewt | #endmeeting | 13:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 31 13:45:46 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_salt/2016/openstack_salt.2016-05-31-13.01.html | 13:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_salt/2016/openstack_salt.2016-05-31-13.01.txt | 13:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_salt/2016/openstack_salt.2016-05-31-13.01.log.html | 13:45 |
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| carl_baldwin | Hi, anyone around? | 14:01 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 14:01 |
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| blogan | hi | 14:01 |
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| john-davidge | hi | 14:01 |
| carl_baldwin | I'm just waking up from a nice 3-day week-end. I'm not sure how effective this meeting will be. But, let's get started. | 14:01 |
| carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron_routed_networks | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 31 14:02:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_routed_networks' | 14:02 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_routed_networks)" | 14:02 | |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/routed-provider-networks-notes | 14:02 |
| carl_baldwin | N-1 is going to be any time now. | 14:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | Any other announcements? | 14:03 |
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| mlavalle | TThe Neutron mid-cycle will be in Cork Ireland, August 15-17 | 14:04 |
| blogan | mlavalle: 17-19 now | 14:04 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thanks. | 14:04 |
| carl_baldwin | That date change will make it harder for me. | 14:04 |
| carl_baldwin | But, there is the holiday on the 15th. | 14:05 |
| carl_baldwin | So, that didn't make much sense. | 14:05 |
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| blogan | yeah | 14:05 |
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| blogan | neither works for me | 14:05 |
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| carl_baldwin | I might have to make the last day a travel day. | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | Both are fine with me | 14:06 |
| carl_baldwin | Any others? | 14:06 |
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| carl_baldwin | ok | 14:07 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Progress | 14:07 |
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| carl_baldwin | We've made great progress. The first three topics, segment crud, subnets to segments, and host to segment are in pretty good shape. | 14:07 |
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| mlavalle | yeah! | 14:08 |
| carl_baldwin | There are a couple of cleanup patches in there that could use some review as your time permits. | 14:08 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312688/ | 14:08 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295173 | 14:08 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Segment Aware IP Allocation | 14:09 |
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| carl_baldwin | I think this is in pretty good shape and patches are up. | 14:09 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314815 | 14:09 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/320631 | 14:10 |
| carl_baldwin | ^ I think these are the new priority patches to review / merge. | 14:10 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks, blogan for the reviews. | 14:10 |
| blogan | no problem | 14:11 |
| carl_baldwin | We also have an ML2 bug to fix. | 14:11 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320657 | 14:11 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321152 | 14:11 |
| carl_baldwin | I'll take this to the ML2 meeting tomorrow. | 14:12 |
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| carl_baldwin | It prevents deferred IP allocations from being returned with the port update response. Nova will need it. | 14:12 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will discuss these in the ML2 meeting (tomorrow, I think) | 14:13 |
| blogan | progress oh dhcp scheduler: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311931/ | 14:13 |
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| blogan | carl_baldwin: changed it to use a segment_id column on the networkdhcpagentbindings table | 14:14 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic DHCP scheduler | 14:14 |
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| carl_baldwin | blogan: I was weighing the pros / cons of that approach. | 14:15 |
| blogan | obviously tests broke but that did clean the code up and I do believe that segment_id column will be fine for now | 14:15 |
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| carl_baldwin | blogan: What about when an agent wants to connect to multiple segments on the same network? Will that prevent it? | 14:15 |
| blogan | well since we have to assume a dhcp agent can only communicate with one segment, it works | 14:15 |
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| carl_baldwin | Do we? | 14:16 |
| blogan | carl_baldwin: wasn't that the result of the ML discussion about adding the API calls for segments? | 14:16 |
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| blogan | to reschedule them? | 14:16 |
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| carl_baldwin | I'll have to re-read that thread to refresh my memory. | 14:17 |
| blogan | i probably should too just to confirm | 14:17 |
| carl_baldwin | blogan: If that is the case, I do like that model a little bit better. | 14:18 |
| blogan | yeah i do too | 14:18 |
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| blogan | i do not like what i had to do with the scheduler inheritance though, in the dhcp_agent_scheduler.py file | 14:19 |
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| blogan | but that's unrelated to the column vs separate table debate | 14:19 |
| carl_baldwin | The mro can be kind of pain. | 14:20 |
| blogan | carl_baldwin: thanks for the review on it | 14:20 |
| carl_baldwin | I'll review it again soon. | 14:21 |
| blogan | carl_baldwin: let me get the tests passing so you're not wasting time on the review, unless you're like really really bored and have nothing to do | 14:21 |
| blogan | but what are the chances of that? | 14:21 |
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| mlavalle | lol | 14:21 |
| carl_baldwin | blogan: lol | 14:21 |
| carl_baldwin | Okay, let me know when it is ready. | 14:21 |
| blogan | will do | 14:22 |
| carl_baldwin | blogan: anything else? | 14:22 |
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| blogan | nope thats all for me | 14:22 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic Integration with Nova Scheduler | 14:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Integration with Nova Scheduler (Meeting topic: neutron_routed_networks)" | 14:23 | |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: hi | 14:23 |
| mlavalle | good progress here as far as specs | 14:23 |
| mlavalle | Add prep-for-network-aware-scheduling spec got a +2: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313001/ | 14:24 |
| mlavalle | I reviewed it last week and added the DNS perspective | 14:24 |
| mlavalle | it should merge soon | 14:24 |
| carl_baldwin | Cool. | 14:24 |
| mlavalle | That work is important because we will code routed networks stuff on top of it | 14:24 |
| carl_baldwin | I need to address feedback on mine, speaking of stuff on top of it. | 14:25 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263898/ | 14:25 |
| mlavalle | The routed networks spec for Nova is maming good progress, despite it got a couple of -1s: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263898/ | 14:25 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will review feedback. | 14:26 |
| mlavalle | The feedback from johnthetubaguy was really a soft -1 | 14:26 |
| mlavalle | we just need to solve a few TODO's left | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, just needs a few more details filling out to push it over the line | 14:26 |
| mlavalle | So it seems I am being able to walk the fine line of pushing for reviews without being annoying | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | by the way, the deadline is this thursday | 14:27 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: johnthetubaguy: I'll update it today. | 14:27 |
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| carl_baldwin | johnthetubaguy: Thanks for the heads up. | 14:27 |
| carl_baldwin | This long week-end made all the deadlines suddenly seem much closer. | 14:27 |
| carl_baldwin | I'll update it first thing after this meeting. | 14:27 |
| mlavalle | as soon as johnthetubaguy starts implementing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313001/ | 14:28 |
| mlavalle | I'll help in any way needed | 14:28 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Great. | 14:28 |
| mlavalle | Reviewing code | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, at this point, thats after the spec deadline, but hope to get to that soonish | 14:29 |
| mlavalle | That's all I have this week | 14:29 |
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| carl_baldwin | I'm going to start working on something related to this this week. I'm going to start working on the attribute Nova can use to tell when a port will have deferred IP allocation. | 14:30 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 14:31 |
| carl_baldwin | That's all. | 14:31 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic L2 Adjacency Extension | 14:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "L2 Adjacency Extension (Meeting topic: neutron_routed_networks)" | 14:31 | |
| carl_baldwin | reedip: Are you around? | 14:31 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/304647 | 14:32 |
| carl_baldwin | ^ Looks like this needs an update. That's all. | 14:32 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: he commented last week that he recently moved back to India from Japan | 14:32 |
| mlavalle | so he's been having trouble working on this. But commited to follow up as soon as possible | 14:33 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Yes, that's right. Thanks. | 14:33 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic Enable Create / Delete of Segments on Existing Network | 14:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Enable Create / Delete of Segments on Existing Network (Meeting topic: neutron_routed_networks)" | 14:33 | |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui mentioned he would not be able to make the meeting. | 14:34 |
| carl_baldwin | However, he's made some great progress on this. | 14:34 |
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| carl_baldwin | Looks the the review could use reviews. | 14:34 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317358 | 14:35 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Client | 14:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Client (Meeting topic: neutron_routed_networks)" | 14:36 | |
| carl_baldwin | Anyone here to discuss the client? | 14:36 |
| rtheis | hi | 14:36 |
| rtheis | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290138/ | 14:36 |
| rtheis | merged so we now have a couple OSC commands | 14:36 |
| carl_baldwin | rtheis: hi | 14:36 |
| carl_baldwin | rtheis: That is great progress. | 14:37 |
| rtheis | I'll start preparing the next couple commands based on create and delete segment work by xiaohhui | 14:37 |
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| carl_baldwin | rtheis: Thanks. Anything else? | 14:38 |
| rtheis | I'll also look into OSC command updates for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288774/ | 14:39 |
| rtheis | that's it from me for now | 14:39 |
| carl_baldwin | rtheis: Thanks. | 14:39 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic OVN plugin | 14:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OVN plugin (Meeting topic: neutron_routed_networks)" | 14:39 | |
| rtheis | carl_baldwin: yw | 14:39 |
| carl_baldwin | Anyone around to discuss this? | 14:40 |
| rtheis | we are getting close on conversion to ML2 | 14:40 |
| rtheis | I have several remaining patch sets out that need to merge and then can work on final conversion patch set | 14:40 |
| carl_baldwin | I did notice this merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312705/ | 14:40 |
| carl_baldwin | rtheis: That is cool. I imagine with OVN being an ML2 plugin, a lot of this becomes easier. | 14:41 |
| rtheis | I think so | 14:41 |
| carl_baldwin | It is just a matter of getting host / segment mapping to work. | 14:41 |
| carl_baldwin | ... I think. | 14:41 |
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| rtheis | yeah, I need to review xiaohhui's patch sets as well | 14:42 |
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| * mlavalle panicked for a second. But carl_baldwin means on the OVN side lol | 14:42 | |
| carl_baldwin | rtheis: Good progress. | 14:42 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Right. Sorry to cause you panick. lol | 14:43 |
| carl_baldwin | *panic | 14:43 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Open Discussion | 14:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: neutron_routed_networks)" | 14:43 | |
| carl_baldwin | Great progress. | 14:43 |
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| carl_baldwin | I think there are two main areas that need the most attention. | 14:44 |
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| carl_baldwin | Those are DHCP scheduling and Nova scheduling integration. | 14:44 |
| carl_baldwin | But, things are looking really good. | 14:44 |
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| carl_baldwin | Anything else? | 14:45 |
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| mlavalle | I want to share with the team my conversation with Matt Musllow about creating a test environment | 14:45 |
| mlavalle | Matt Mulsow^^^ | 14:46 |
| mlavalle | He is with Softlayer and is creating a new cloud with several hundred hypervisors | 14:46 |
| mlavalle | He is willing to loan us some of that gear to let us start testing routed networks at some scale | 14:47 |
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| mlavalle | So there is an email conversation going on with him and carl_baldwin | 14:47 |
| mlavalle | I'll keep the team updated on this | 14:47 |
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| mlavalle | The other thing I am doing on the testing front is to create a Vagrant multinode test environment | 14:47 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Sorry I didn't respond to that email. Will do soon. | 14:48 |
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| mlavalle | so everybody can start playing with the feature in a more reallistic way | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: I am thinking to add a Vagrant folder to the Neutron repo. What do you think? | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | Just like the OVN guys do | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | That way this work can be re-used beyond the routed networks effort | 14:49 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Interesting. I think we'll want to ask a much broader group about that. | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | In that case, I'll send a message to the ML | 14:50 |
| carl_baldwin | I wouldn't object but I imagine that' the kind of thing that people will want to chime in on. | 14:50 |
| mlavalle | In the meantime, I'll just create a repo in github.com | 14:50 |
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| mlavalle | that's all I have | 14:51 |
| carl_baldwin | I think sharing a vagrant environment is a great idea. | 14:51 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thanks. | 14:51 |
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| carl_baldwin | Anything else? | 14:51 |
| * mlavalle is shamelessly re-using as much as possible the OVN Vagrant stuff | 14:52 | |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: s/shamelessly/opportunistically/ | 14:52 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: ^ Your spelling was way off on that one. | 14:53 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 14:53 |
| carl_baldwin | :) | 14:53 |
| carl_baldwin | Going once... | 14:53 |
| carl_baldwin | going twice... | 14:53 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks everyone! | 14:54 |
| mlavalle | Bye | 14:54 |
| carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 14:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 31 14:54:07 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_routed_networks/2016/neutron_routed_networks.2016-05-31-14.02.html | 14:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_routed_networks/2016/neutron_routed_networks.2016-05-31-14.02.txt | 14:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_routed_networks/2016/neutron_routed_networks.2016-05-31-14.02.log.html | 14:54 |
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| EmilienM | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 31 15:00:36 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 15:00 |
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| EmilienM | #link agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20160531 | 15:00 |
| _ody | o/ | 15:00 |
| iurygregory | o/ | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | o/ | 15:00 |
| mwhahaha | hi2u | 15:00 |
| bkero | o/ | 15:01 |
| degorenko | o/ | 15:01 |
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| iberezovskiy | hi | 15:01 |
| vinsh | Hello. | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | #topic Review past actions items | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review past actions items (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:01 | |
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| EmilienM | * team to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319519/ (need to be postponed, waiting for bkero review) | 15:01 |
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| EmilienM | * review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312280/ -> DONE & MERGED | 15:01 |
| bkero | I'm back from holiday today, taking care of that this morning. | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | bkero: cool thx | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | * xarses to help degorenko on making puppet-ceph working on Ubuntu Xenial | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | xarses, degorenko: did you guys made progress together? | 15:02 |
| degorenko | unfortunately no :( | 15:02 |
| xarses | I wasn't able to be as helpful as I had hoped | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | mhh | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | can we hope some progress by next week? | 15:02 |
| degorenko | may be this week | 15:02 |
| degorenko | i hope too :) | 15:02 |
| xarses | yes | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | #action xarses and degorenko to make puppet-ceph working on Ubuntu Xenial | 15:03 |
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| EmilienM | I'll skip announcements, since I don't think we have some | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | #topic doc status | 15:03 |
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| EmilienM | bkero, iurygregory: anything else in progress except the big refactoring? | 15:04 |
| iurygregory | EmilienM, only the update for this meeting =) | 15:04 |
| bkero | Nothing to report | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | ok | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | #topic CI status | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI status (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:04 | |
| EmilienM | ok I have a few notes : | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | I did a lot of changes in our CI over the last days | 15:05 |
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| EmilienM | our current master (newton or jewel) does not run trusty jobs anymore, only xenial (voting) | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | our stable/* jobs run trusty though | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | puppet4 jobs are now in check queue of puppet-openstack-integration CI (non-voting now) | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | current puppet4 jobs are currently broken on systemd platforms | 15:06 |
| bkero | Will newton not be tested against trusty? | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | _ody is AFIK working on it | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | bkero: no | 15:06 |
| _ody | https://tickets.puppetlabs.com/browse/PUP-6370 | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | bkero: Canonical does not and won't support Newton on Trusty | 15:06 |
| bkero | Huh, I feel that might be a thorn in some user's side | 15:06 |
| _ody | And I'll see about a work around today. | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | #link ttps://tickets.puppetlabs.com/browse/PUP-6370 | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | #undo | 15:07 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://tickets.puppetlabs.com/browse/PUP-6370 | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | _ody: thx | 15:07 |
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| EmilienM | bkero: I agree, but there is nothing we can do | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | we follow upstream | 15:07 |
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| EmilienM | regarding unit tests jobs, the matrix changed a bit, our current master CI is testing: 3.6, 3.8, 4.5 (voting) and latest (non-voting) | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | while stable/* test what we had before | 15:08 |
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| EmilienM | another useful information: puppet-openstack-integration jobs (on centos7, 3 scenarios), now run in check pipeline of Tempest CI ! | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | (non-voting) | 15:09 |
| degorenko | wow | 15:09 |
| degorenko | that's really good | 15:09 |
| iurygregory | aewsome =D | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | so hopefully tempest folks will look at them when failing | 15:09 |
| degorenko | or just they can will ask us | 15:09 |
| iberezovskiy | cool | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | regarding CI status today, it's quite unstable, I'm trying to investigate what is failing but mostly random | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | I need people to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323374/ | 15:10 |
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| EmilienM | I'm working on the liberty branch too: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323379/ | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | it will save some failures in stable branches | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | I also noticed scenario003 is failing on Xenial quite often, http://logs.openstack.org/20/323320/1/check/gate-puppet-openstack-integration-3-scenario003-tempest-ubuntu-xenial/cb423b0/console.html#_2016-05-31_12_30_04_678 | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | feel free to help at investigating why trove fail | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | otherwise I'll disable trove on ubuntu | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | questions? | 15:11 |
| xarses | nope, looking good | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | oh, and I'm also working on switching beaker jobs from trusty to xenial for master | 15:12 |
| xarses | what's blocking there? | 15:12 |
| _ody | indeed looking good, great work. | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | xarses: https://review.openstack.org/322965 | 15:12 |
| _ody | EmilienM: I thought you said that didn't work in #puppet-openstack? | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | it works | 15:13 |
| xarses | thats merged =) | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | maybe I was confused | 15:13 |
| _ody | Ok. | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | xarses: yeah but infra needs to rebuild image and reupload it to clouds | 15:14 |
| xarses | ok | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | anyway, beaker jobs was second priority | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | #topic ubuntu xenial support status | 15:14 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-xenial | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | so we still have no progress on ceph and SSL issues | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | also horizon is disabled now | 15:15 |
| iurygregory | wow O.o | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | do we have volunteers to actually help? | 15:15 |
| iurygregory | now i have finish my tests i have time to try to help | 15:15 |
| xarses | as noted prior, I will help with ceph | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | iurygregory: please sync with degorenko, he's leading this work | 15:15 |
| iurygregory | EmilienM, sure | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: anything you want to mention here about xenial? | 15:16 |
| degorenko | that sounds hopeful :) | 15:16 |
| iberezovskiy | I'll try to take a look on horizon | 15:16 |
| degorenko | EmilienM, no, just we need to cooperate on ceph/ssl/dashboards issues | 15:16 |
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| EmilienM | cool | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | (and trove now :-P) | 15:17 |
| degorenko | + trove | 15:17 |
| degorenko | :) | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | I'll add it to etherpad | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | done | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | #topic release status | 15:18 |
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| EmilienM | so we released 7.1.0 | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | tag is done, and you can download tarballs on https://tarballs.openstack.org/ | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | once release team merges https://review.openstack.org/321873 - we'll have 8.1.0 (mitaka) | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | this week I'm working on a newton-alpha release | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | we have a problem with the version number | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | they want me to push 9.0.0.0-a1 | 15:20 |
| iurygregory | O.o | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | but it does not work in puppet | 15:20 |
| iurygregory | why not 9.0.0-a1? | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | they respect PEP440 | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | for python projects | 15:20 |
| iurygregory | wow .-. | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | and if we push our tag that works, their scripts won't do our release | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | because their regex won't detect the right tag | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | anyway, it's a mess | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | so we have multiple options | 15:21 |
| iurygregory | yeah =( | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | 1) find another tag 9.0.1 maybe? | 15:21 |
| degorenko | how then works our primary releases? | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | 2) work with release team to add support for more tags | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: I don't know yet | 15:22 |
| degorenko | EmilienM, 1) option looks like hardcode :) | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | maybe we can produce alphas 9.0.1, 9.0.2, etc, and produce a stable release like 9.1.0 | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | ttx, dhellmann: thoughts? ^ | 15:22 |
| iurygregory | option two looks good but the question is, they are open to support more tags? | 15:22 |
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| EmilienM | maybe we can postpone this topic on mailing-list or later on IRC with interested folks | 15:23 |
| degorenko | EmilienM, well, i don't like option to have major release started from 9.1.0 for example, we have every time major release N.0.0 | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | once we have a tag, I'll prepare this release, this week probably, stay tuned! | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: right | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | we might need to find something else | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | I'll talk with release folks today | 15:24 |
| iurygregory | ok | 15:24 |
| degorenko | probably 2) option is good, but we need to discuss it with release team | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | any question / remark about release management? | 15:24 |
| bkero | As a user, I imagine 9.0.1 would be "9.0 has been stabilized/released, and 9.0.1 is a minor bugfix" | 15:25 |
| iurygregory | bkero, ++ | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | yeah | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | we'll figure that | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | #topic Open Discussion, Bug and Review triage | 15:25 |
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| EmilienM | if you have outstanding bugs / reviews or just questions, go ahead it's time | 15:25 |
| iberezovskiy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317939/ | 15:26 |
| iberezovskiy | actually full discussion is in comments. team, please take a look | 15:26 |
| iberezovskiy | here I want to clarify one moment: if sqlite directory isn't default (not /var/lib/<...>), should we manage it in puppet? | 15:26 |
| ttx | EmilienM: that would fit a intermediary-release numbering scheme alright | 15:26 |
| ttx | Not very smevery though | 15:26 |
| ttx | semver-y | 15:26 |
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| EmilienM | ttx: right, we used to hav X.0.0 as our first stable release | 15:26 |
| ttx | EmilienM: what's the issue with PEP440-like versions ? Puppet doesn't like them ? | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | ttx: right | 15:27 |
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| EmilienM | it complains | 15:28 |
| EmilienM | it's not like we can ignore it | 15:28 |
| ttx | ok, so they have a meaning on your side too | 15:28 |
| EmilienM | we can't, puppet fails to build tarball | 15:28 |
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| ttx | I think the 'right' solution is to support non-PEP440 release tags for projects that need them | 15:28 |
| EmilienM | _ody, Hunner: any thoughts on that? ^ | 15:28 |
| mwhahaha | probably just pep440 and semver? | 15:29 |
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| EmilienM | that would be great yeah | 15:29 |
| mwhahaha | limiting the options, pick two :D | 15:29 |
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| EmilienM | ttx: should I just submit a patch in zuul/layout to update the regex? | 15:29 |
| ttx | EmilienM: it's slightly trickier than that. I think you'd need a separate pipeline so that Python projects still can't create releases from badly-formed tags | 15:30 |
| ttx | I said 'right' option, not ' fast' option :) | 15:31 |
| ttx | likely to need some discussion with infra too | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | ttx: s/badly/not-PEP440/ ? | 15:31 |
| ttx | yes | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | ok i'll follow up on ML | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | in the meantime we need to find a tag :( | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to follow-up release tagging on ML | 15:31 |
| ttx | EmilienM: why is it a new problem ? | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | ttx: because it's the first time we manage releases with you | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | (we did it for liberty subrelease and mitaka subrelease but it was not alphas | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | it was 7.1.0 and 8.1.0) | 15:32 |
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| ttx | oh, you mean, it's first time you do pre-releases ? | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | with you, yes | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | we did it in Mitaka, but I did the tag myself | 15:33 |
| ttx | so it did not trigger a release, right ? | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | and we used a semver compliant tag | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | ttx: right | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | ttx: our project was not integrated in release management yet | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | ttx: we did it very recently | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | ttx: so did kolla, ansible, etc | 15:34 |
| ttx | hmm, maybe in this case the best workaround is to let you continue to do it old-style | 15:34 |
| ttx | while you look into the 'right' fix ? | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | ttx: just the tag then | 15:34 |
| ttx | yeah, missing tarball and all but not worse than past | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | mhh we need to think about it. | 15:35 |
| EmilienM | what's the point of releasing if we don't produce tarballs | 15:35 |
| ttx | I'm fine pushing the tag directly for you so that we don't need ACL switch just for that | 15:35 |
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| ttx | EmilienM: but you didn't do tarballs in the past either right | 15:35 |
| EmilienM | right | 15:35 |
| EmilienM | but we wanted to change all of this | 15:35 |
| EmilienM | and do like other projects | 15:35 |
| ttx | I'm not saying it's a long-term solution, just something that lets you push your tag now and fix it in the coming weeks | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | so for once, I want to build a solution that works for everyone | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | ok | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | we'll do that probably | 15:36 |
| ttx | if your tag can wait until the 'right' fix is operational, that's the alternate solution | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to produce release manually for newton-alpha-1 and work with infra/release folks to support more tags during newton-2 | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | ttx: sounds like a plan, thx for your time. | 15:37 |
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| mwhahaha | anyway back to the sqlite question :D | 15:38 |
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| EmilienM | who is using sqlite nowadays? | 15:38 |
| EmilienM | :) | 15:38 |
| mwhahaha | people evidently | 15:38 |
| iurygregory | lolk | 15:38 |
| iurygregory | lol* | 15:38 |
| EmilienM | so we want to manage directory in puppet-oslo | 15:38 |
| EmilienM | ? | 15:39 |
| degorenko | it's rally | 15:39 |
| degorenko | ah, got it now | 15:39 |
| iberezovskiy | degorenko, the question is: manage it for all components or not? | 15:39 |
| mwhahaha | well we can just ensure directory via ensure_resource | 15:39 |
| degorenko | iberezovskiy, not sure that we need it | 15:39 |
| EmilienM | honestly, just do it for rally now | 15:39 |
| degorenko | in most cases for other projects we need specify only file | 15:40 |
| mwhahaha | seems like a minor thing | 15:40 |
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| EmilienM | yeah | 15:40 |
| iberezovskiy | I am unsure too | 15:40 |
| EmilienM | do we have anything else for today? | 15:40 |
| degorenko | yes | 15:40 |
| degorenko | :) | 15:40 |
| iberezovskiy | let's merge this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322310/ :) | 15:40 |
| EmilienM | shoot | 15:40 |
| degorenko | i have question regarding nova v3 :) | 15:40 |
| degorenko | EmilienM, we merged your patch | 15:40 |
| degorenko | for master | 15:40 |
| degorenko | but anyway, v3 is experimental api :) | 15:40 |
| EmilienM | v3 is 2.1 | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | use 2.1 everywhere | 15:41 |
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| degorenko | yes i know | 15:41 |
| degorenko | in master | 15:41 |
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| degorenko | in mitaka? :) | 15:41 |
| degorenko | we have v3 as required endpoint | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | we need to backport it then | 15:41 |
| degorenko | in some cases we don' need | 15:41 |
| degorenko | EmilienM, so, you are ok with backporting to mitaka your patch? | 15:42 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: ok I'll try to cherry-pick it and see if it's backward compatible | 15:42 |
| degorenko | or i can just upload additional patch, with parameter enable_v3 = true by default? | 15:42 |
| EmilienM | we need to test it, in Fuel & TripleO | 15:42 |
| EmilienM | to make sure we don't break the world | 15:42 |
| degorenko | fuel won't use it | 15:43 |
| EmilienM | enable_v3 is noop AFIK | 15:43 |
| EmilienM | in nova | 15:43 |
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| degorenko | well, confugigure_v3_endpoint :D | 15:43 |
| EmilienM | ok, let's take it oustide meeting | 15:43 |
| degorenko | ok | 15:43 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM & degorenko to work on nova v3 backport to mitaka | 15:43 |
| EmilienM | anything else? | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | ok | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | have a nice week and keep working hard! lol | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 15:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 31 15:44:43 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-05-31-15.00.html | 15:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-05-31-15.00.txt | 15:44 |
| iberezovskiy | thanks | 15:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-05-31-15.00.log.html | 15:44 |
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| bkero | Thanks everyone! | 15:46 |
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| gibi | #startmeeting nova notification | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 31 17:00:56 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova notification)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_notification' | 17:01 |
| gibi | hi | 17:01 |
| macsz | hi! | 17:01 |
| pumaranikar | hi | 17:01 |
| sneti | hi | 17:01 |
| syjulian | hello! | 17:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: so I have to run in a sec but I wanted to quickly check about specs, if possible | 17:01 |
| siva_krishnan | hi | 17:01 |
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| gibi | johnthetubaguy: quick update. the transformation spec in merged | 17:01 |
| gibi | the json schema generation spec is merged in oslo | 17:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | also, wanted to introduce some of the fine folks from OSIC I work with who are hoping to help out speed things up :) | 17:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: great, that sounds like the big pieces | 17:02 |
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| gibi | there are specs out there proposing new notifications | 17:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | just worried about the deadline on thursday for nova-specs | 17:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, do we have a good list of those somewhere? | 17:03 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-versioned-notifications L15 | 17:03 |
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| gibi | this is the list of bps I'm aware off | 17:03 |
| gibi | of | 17:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: ah, cool, yeah, I see that now, linked from the main etherpad | 17:03 |
| gibi | I tried to review them and will do a review round if needed tomorrow | 17:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | looks like only one is left | 17:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | hypervisor notifications | 17:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | an its marked WIP | 17:05 |
| gibi | that is cool | 17:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | honestly, feels like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286675/ would be a great for this cycle, getting it complete that is | 17:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | awesome, sorry to derail, just wanted to make sure nova-specs-core isn't blocking progress | 17:06 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: we have code up for 80% of that spec | 17:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, wow | 17:06 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: so I think we have a good chance to make it so | 17:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | I was expecting more work for long tail of things, but I guess most of it goes through that single until method | 17:07 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: it is not that simple as I thought but still managable | 17:08 |
| gibi | the biggest thing is we have now is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313654/ | 17:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, so you are only doing the two example ones so far? | 17:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, two or three example ones | 17:09 |
| gibi | yes, only that was in the spec | 17:09 |
| gibi | sorry making false hopes for the whole transformation | 17:09 |
| gibi | :) | 17:09 |
| gibi | I ment that 80% of the 3 example in the spec | 17:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, gotcha, I was expecting us to start doing the others, I think sneti, macsz, siva_krishnan and pumaranikar might be able to help with that | 17:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | but clearly, we need the basic ones solid first | 17:10 |
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| gibi | I think the solid base is now up | 17:10 |
| gibi | if there are more people to help then I can make a list of transformation top of that patch to be done | 17:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, so maybe they could help try apply this to something like reboot? or snapshot? | 17:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that sounds good | 17:10 |
| gibi | I will write up a list of candidates that are very similar to the instance.delete | 17:11 |
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| gibi | most of the code will be test for those | 17:11 |
| macsz | great :) | 17:11 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, its a bit like APIs, well it is an API basically | 17:12 |
| gibi | #agreed gibi will write up a list on the etherpad to about the easy transformations and send a mail to the ML | 17:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | awesome, thanks | 17:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | lets see if we can make more progress | 17:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think we should limit the number we are doing somehow | 17:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | it would be good to get the initial stuff over the line to start with I guess | 17:13 |
| gibi | yeah I think no more than 3-5 | 17:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | or at least, some level of +2 | 17:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: sounds perfect | 17:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, so sorry to jump in, and dominate then run off... but I need to head off so I can get online for the TC meeting later on | 17:14 |
| gibi | if you have time to look at the patches then we can have some level of +2 soon | 17:14 |
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| gibi | johnthetubaguy: no problem | 17:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: yeah, totally hope to look at those soon, its on our trello board for OSIC, I think | 17:14 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: will give an update on the nova meeting as well | 17:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: perfect | 17:14 |
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| gibi | :) | 17:15 |
| gibi | I think we covered the initial update on the patches | 17:15 |
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| gibi | does anybody has a spec up that needs review from the subteam? | 17:15 |
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| sjmc7 | hi gibi, sorry i’m late | 17:16 |
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| gibi | sjmc7: hi, no worries | 17:16 |
| sjmc7 | some folks on the searchlight team had reviews for flavor and hypervisor notifications that’ll use the versioned notifications | 17:16 |
| sjmc7 | just specs at this state | 17:16 |
| sjmc7 | stage | 17:16 |
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| sjmc7 | ah, looks like the hypervisor one got merged | 17:17 |
| gibi | I think the flavor one has a -1 from me | 17:17 |
| gibi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321336/ | 17:18 |
| sjmc7 | yep, that’s the one. ok, thanks for lookgin at it, just wanted to mention them in case they got lost | 17:18 |
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| gibi | spec deadline is close, so just ping me when my comments is answered and I will rereview | 17:18 |
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| sjmc7 | will do, thanks | 17:19 |
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| gibi | anybody else has a spec to look at? | 17:19 |
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| gibi | great | 17:20 |
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| gibi | as I already mentioned the transformation already has some code up | 17:21 |
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| gibi | this is the topic: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/versioned-notification-transformation-newton | 17:22 |
| gibi | reviews are welcome :) | 17:22 |
| gibi | those who want to help the transformation will find the basic pattern what to do in this patches | 17:22 |
| gibi | especially in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313654/ | 17:23 |
| gibi | besides that | 17:23 |
| pumaranikar | thanks gibi , I will have a look. | 17:23 |
| gibi | julian started to implement the schema generation for ovos here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318950/ | 17:24 |
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| gibi | we are reviewing it with rlrossit | 17:25 |
| gibi | does anybody has any code up we should look at it? | 17:25 |
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| macsz | OSIC just started looking into this, so from OSIC side - not right now :) | 17:26 |
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| AndChat-140625 | For the list of notifications to transform, would those be in the ehterpad? -Julian | 17:28 |
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| gibi | could you put the irc handle of the OSIC guys to the etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-versioned-notifications ? so that I will know who to ping with work :D | 17:28 |
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| macsz | sure, we will sign in | 17:29 |
| gibi | AndChat-140625: I will put the list of easy transformations to the etherpad first and send a mail to ML, let's see if it works well or not | 17:29 |
| gibi | macsz: thanks | 17:30 |
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| macsz | done, thats everone from OSIC, i think | 17:31 |
| gibi | macsz: great addition, thanks | 17:32 |
| gibi | if you have any questions then you can find me on irc, I work in UTC+2 timezone | 17:32 |
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| gibi | rlrossit works from the USA you can turn to him as well | 17:33 |
| macsz | i miss this TZ, left it 2 months ago :( | 17:33 |
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| gibi | OK | 17:33 |
| siva_krishnan | thanks gibi | 17:33 |
| gibi | any other issues we have to discuss today? | 17:34 |
| * gibi doesn't have anyithing else | 17:34 | |
| macsz | great, thanks, gibi | 17:35 |
| gibi | It feels we are done for today | 17:35 |
| gibi | thanks for showing up | 17:35 |
| gibi | see you around | 17:36 |
| macsz | cheers! | 17:36 |
| sjmc7 | have a good evening | 17:36 |
| gibi | #endmeeting | 17:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 31 17:36:23 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:36 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2016/nova_notification.2016-05-31-17.00.html | 17:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2016/nova_notification.2016-05-31-17.00.txt | 17:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2016/nova_notification.2016-05-31-17.00.log.html | 17:36 |
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| auggy | #startmeeting nova-bugs-team | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 31 18:00:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is auggy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova-bugs-team)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_bugs_team' | 18:00 |
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| auggy | o/ | 18:00 |
| pumaranikar | o/ | 18:00 |
| siva_krishnan | o/ | 18:00 |
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| auggy | small group today! this should be pretty quick :) | 18:01 |
| raj_singh | o/ | 18:01 |
| auggy | the first thing is just a reminder that we need help with bug skimming duty this week | 18:01 |
| auggy | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Weekly_bug_skimming_duty | 18:01 |
| auggy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Weekly_bug_skimming_duty | 18:01 |
| siva_krishnan | me adn pumaranikar will be doing that for this week | 18:02 |
| auggy | great! thanks! | 18:02 |
| pumaranikar | +1 siva_krishnan | 18:02 |
| siva_krishnan | *and | 18:02 |
| claudiub | o/ | 18:02 |
| auggy | how is that going? do you have any questions so far about bug skimming or any issues you've run into? | 18:02 |
| pumaranikar | auggy, not right now. we will ping if needed | 18:03 |
| auggy | ok great, feel free to reach out | 18:03 |
| auggy | i'm on US Pacific time and markus_z is on CET | 18:03 |
| pumaranikar | auggy, ok | 18:03 |
| auggy | the next thing is just a reminder that if you're looking for other ways to help out, we have the bug maintenance stuff | 18:04 |
| auggy | http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html | 18:04 |
| auggy | i think the formal thing to do is update the etherpad if you pick one up, but most of them are pretty quick | 18:04 |
| pumaranikar | auggy, we did refer this in our last skimming duty | 18:05 |
| auggy | great | 18:05 |
| auggy | also some additional useful queries are in the Meetings wiki: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova/BugsTeam#Queries | 18:05 |
| auggy | along with instructions on what to do with each of those | 18:05 |
| auggy | i should probably move that to the main wiki page :) | 18:05 |
| auggy | so the next thing, did any noteworthy items come up from skimming this past week? | 18:06 |
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| auggy | i'll take the silence as a negative :) | 18:07 |
| raj_singh | well there were some bugs which I didn't know how to verify, so I just made sure that bug had enough info otherwise marked it as incomplete | 18:08 |
| auggy | raj_singh: perfect, if there's not enough info for you to reproduce it then definitely mark it as incomplete | 18:08 |
| auggy | just make sure it gets marked as new again if the OP updates it | 18:08 |
| raj_singh | auggy: alright | 18:08 |
| raj_singh | auggy: One Q | 18:09 |
| auggy | sure! | 18:09 |
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| raj_singh | When and who decides the importance of a bug, like high, low? | 18:09 |
| auggy | the triage team | 18:09 |
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| auggy | the point of skimming is to verify and tag the bug so it gets to the triage team | 18:10 |
| raj_singh | auggy: ahhh, got it. | 18:10 |
| auggy | the triagers can then investigate root cause and make a decision | 18:10 |
| auggy | we just try to help out to spread the work load | 18:10 |
| auggy | oh another thing, if you can't verify a bug because you don't have the right setup or whatever, you can tag it as "needs-attention" | 18:10 |
| auggy | so for instance if someone is having an issue with ceph and you don't have an instance with ceph set up to verify, you can tag as "ceph" and "needs-assistance" with a comment that you need someone to verify it that has a ceph setup | 18:11 |
| pumaranikar | auggy, ok. didn't know that :) | 18:11 |
| auggy | sorry "needs-attention", not "needs-assistance" | 18:11 |
| auggy | yeah we set that up specifically so we could get skimming help from others that might have those things set up | 18:12 |
| raj_singh | auggy: What is your usual setup to reproduce most of bugs? | 18:13 |
| auggy | raj_singh: i have a basic default devstack i spin up | 18:13 |
| raj_singh | 2 node cluster? | 18:13 |
| auggy | depends on the bug, usually just 1 node barebones basic setup | 18:13 |
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| raj_singh | ok | 18:13 |
| auggy | if it's something networking related i'll turn on neutron | 18:13 |
| auggy | or if the reporter specifically says it's an issue with a multinode setup then i might do that | 18:14 |
| auggy | but yeah depends on the bug | 18:14 |
| raj_singh | ok thx | 18:14 |
| auggy | i'm currently learning how to use a tool that the gate uses called devstack-gate | 18:15 |
| auggy | it lets you spin up a devstack that looks exactly like what one of the gate tests uses | 18:15 |
| auggy | so once i have some idea of how to do that i can share that to see if that's useful for doing bug reproduction | 18:15 |
| raj_singh | auggy: nice, it will be good to have that info in wiki, one you know it | 18:15 |
| raj_singh | s/one/once | 18:16 |
| auggy | yeah, i know sometimes to reproduce a bug i end up speding like 2 days figuring out how to configure my devstack to do what they are doing ;) | 18:16 |
| pumaranikar | +1 raj_singh | 18:16 |
| raj_singh | auggy: that is why I was asking about your setup. | 18:16 |
| siva_krishnan | +1 raj_singh | 18:16 |
| auggy | alright so the only other thing i had was a reminder that we have a team etherpad with some bug related projects on it - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-bugs-team | 18:17 |
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| auggy | i'm not sure about the status of some these since i didn't add them, but they are mostly just ideas for how to improve bug management | 18:17 |
| auggy | so if you are looking for other things to do, there might be items in here worth exploring | 18:17 |
| auggy | i don't have anything else for today's meeting, does anyone else have anything? | 18:18 |
| auggy | #topic open discussion | 18:18 |
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| auggy | alright well i'll take that as no one has anything else | 18:20 |
| auggy | thanks to everyone who is helping out, and remember feel free to reach out via irc or email if you have any questions | 18:20 |
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| raj_singh | auggy: Thx | 18:20 |
| siva_krishnan | thanks auggy! | 18:20 |
| pumaranikar | yes. thanks auggy . | 18:20 |
| auggy | #endmeeting | 18:21 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 31 18:21:01 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:21 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-05-31-18.00.html | 18:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-05-31-18.00.txt | 18:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-05-31-18.00.log.html | 18:21 |
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