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| fawadkhaliq | anyone on for the Kuryr meeting? | 03:01 |
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| vikasc_ | o/ | 03:01 |
| fawadkhaliq | hi vikasc_, don't see taku around, who normally runs this meeting slot | 03:02 |
| vikasc_ | yep | 03:02 |
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| vikasc_ | lets wait for some more time | 03:02 |
| vikasc_ | fawadkhaliq, seems no meeting | 03:04 |
| fawadkhaliq | yep | 03:04 |
| fawadkhaliq | okay, maybe next week | 03:05 |
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| nmadhok | Meeting? | 13:01 |
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| jasondotstar | sorry | 13:03 |
| jasondotstar | late this am | 13:03 |
| nmadhok | np | 13:03 |
| jasondotstar | #startmeeting openstack-salt | 13:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 17 13:03:55 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jasondotstar. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-salt)" | 13:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_salt' | 13:03 |
| jasondotstar | #topic roll call | 13:04 |
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| jasondotstar | o/ | 13:04 |
| nmadhok | here | 13:04 |
| jasondotstar | hi nmadhok | 13:04 |
| jasondotstar | ne1 else around? | 13:04 |
| nmadhok | Don't think so | 13:04 |
| nmadhok | Just the two of us until now | 13:04 |
| nmadhok | Good morning jasondotstar | 13:05 |
| jasondotstar | good morning | 13:05 |
| jasondotstar | :-) | 13:05 |
| nmadhok | Link to agenda for today | 13:05 |
| jasondotstar | i'm going to ping around and see if we've got anyone else who will join... | 13:05 |
| nmadhok | ? | 13:05 |
| nmadhok | ok | 13:05 |
| jasondotstar | im running behind a bit.... | 13:05 |
| jasondotstar | apologies | 13:05 |
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| genunix | o/ | 13:07 |
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| cznewt | hello | 13:07 |
| jasondotstar | hi there | 13:07 |
| jasondotstar | #topic | 13:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-salt)" | 13:07 | |
| jasondotstar | #topic introduction | 13:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "introduction (Meeting topic: openstack-salt)" | 13:07 | |
| cznewt | Sorry for the late arrival, I got stucked at a meeting | 13:07 |
| jasondotstar | This meeting is for the openstack-salt team | 13:08 |
| nmadhok | hello genunix and cznewt | 13:08 |
| jasondotstar | If you're interested in contributing to the discussion, please join #openstack-salt | 13:08 |
| jasondotstar | Meetings are Weekly on Tuesdays at 1300UTC | 13:08 |
| jasondotstar | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#OpenStack_Salt_Team_Meeting | 13:08 |
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| jasondotstar | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-salt | 13:08 |
| jasondotstar | #topic #topic Review past action items | 13:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "#topic Review past action items (Meeting topic: openstack-salt)" | 13:08 | |
| jasondotstar | #topic Review past action items | 13:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review past action items (Meeting topic: openstack-salt)" | 13:08 | |
| jasondotstar | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-salt-weekly-meeting-20160517 | 13:08 |
| jasondotstar | late with the meeting etherpad too :-( | 13:09 |
| jasondotstar | sorry abt that | 13:09 |
| jasondotstar | if there's stuff you want to talk about, after we go through the last meeting items | 13:09 |
| jasondotstar | feel free to add them there. | 13:09 |
| jasondotstar | ok so i think much of what we discussed last week was around the openSUSE conf | 13:10 |
| jasondotstar | and the idea that we need to somehow align the openstack-salt and the salt community efforts | 13:11 |
| jasondotstar | everyone who joined the hangout session yesterday.... thanks. i think we had a spirited discussion around how we move forward | 13:11 |
| cznewt | yes, I got an idea to introduce not conflicting formulas to salt-formulas namespace on github | 13:11 |
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| nmadhok | what do you mean by non conflicting? | 13:12 |
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| jasondotstar | one sec guys | 13:13 |
| jasondotstar | let's see if we have any topics to discuss regarding last week | 13:13 |
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| nmadhok | sure | 13:13 |
| jasondotstar | so, are we good with what is going to presented at the conf? | 13:14 |
| jasondotstar | is there an update on that? | 13:14 |
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| nmadhok | I don't see any option to add a speaker. Still need to decide. The proposal I submitted that got accepted is around saltopenstack project | 13:15 |
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| nmadhok | Ales said he was going to register and see if he see's an option | 13:15 |
| jasondotstar | that's your personal salt openstack project on github, yes? | 13:15 |
| nmadhok | Sent a link last time to him. Not my personal but yeah supported by Salt community | 13:16 |
| jpavlik | saltopenstack project under official? | 13:16 |
| nmadhok | I worked on it pretty much | 13:16 |
| jpavlik | what is the purpose? | 13:16 |
| jpavlik | it is old | 13:16 |
| nmadhok | Yeah there's some new stuff on it that I worked upon that's in a private repository | 13:16 |
| nmadhok | This was before I came across openstack-salt project | 13:17 |
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| jpavlik | I think that we should get there salt-formula-swift and other stuff which is on roadmap | 13:17 |
| jpavlik | what we are waiting for some time | 13:17 |
| nmadhok | Let's discuss that today on what projects are needed | 13:17 |
| jasondotstar | can you re src the link here? | 13:17 |
| nmadhok | and what work needs to be done | 13:17 |
| nmadhok | link to register you mean? | 13:18 |
| jpavlik | both | 13:18 |
| jpavlik | repo and registre | 13:18 |
| jasondotstar | guys.... | 13:18 |
| jasondotstar | we've got an agenda | 13:18 |
| jasondotstar | im just trying to go through it. | 13:18 |
| nmadhok | #link https://events.opensuse.org/conference/oSC16 | 13:18 |
| jasondotstar | is this a link to the presentation? | 13:18 |
| jasondotstar | or the conference | 13:18 |
| jasondotstar | ? | 13:18 |
| nmadhok | Sending link to presentation | 13:18 |
| jpavlik | it is about conference | 13:19 |
| jasondotstar | let's have a look at it | 13:19 |
| jpavlik | not about accepting saltopenstack under official openstack-salt? | 13:19 |
| nmadhok | #link https://events.opensuse.org/conference/oSC16/program/proposal/794 | 13:19 |
| nmadhok | Link above is the link to the proposal that was accepted | 13:19 |
| jpavlik | OK, sorry. I was confused. | 13:19 |
| jasondotstar | cool. | 13:19 |
| nmadhok | I have another proposal but that's related to the VMware cloud driver for Salt that I created | 13:19 |
| jpavlik | presentation is fine :) | 13:19 |
| jasondotstar | cznewt: how's the governance stuff looking? | 13:20 |
| nmadhok | saltopenstack is official from Salt's perspective but not OpenStack's perspective | 13:20 |
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| nmadhok | openstack-salt is official from OpenStack's perspective but not Salt's perspective | 13:21 |
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| jpavlik | nmadhok: yes that is correct. | 13:21 |
| jasondotstar | we have to merge these two efforts | 13:21 |
| jasondotstar | we can't have two parallel efforts in my opinion | 13:21 |
| nmadhok | #agreed | 13:21 |
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| nmadhok | it's too much work maintaining two projects. | 13:22 |
| nmadhok | But both projects support different OS distro | 13:22 |
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| nmadhok | I think? | 13:22 |
| jasondotstar | if we can't come together on it, that's going to be a problem | 13:22 |
| jpavlik | different os distro? | 13:22 |
| jpavlik | openstack-salt support RHEL and DEBIAN | 13:22 |
| nmadhok | saltopenstack tested on RHEL/Oracle Linux | 13:22 |
| jasondotstar | it's obvious that we're done with last week's agenda | 13:22 |
| nmadhok | The new version also tested on openSUSE and Debian | 13:22 |
| jasondotstar | so let's just move to open discussion | 13:22 |
| jasondotstar | #topic Open Discussion | 13:23 |
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| jpavlik | we can merge effort. nmadhokcan start contribute | 13:23 |
| nmadhok | Yeah | 13:23 |
| nmadhok | that's why I asked what needs to be done | 13:23 |
| jasondotstar | my fault for not having an agenda | 13:23 |
| nmadhok | and mentioned yesterday about having flexibility in the project | 13:23 |
| jpavlik | nmadhok: saltopenstack is useless. It is another devstack. Can nmadhok take something what we need to solve | 13:23 |
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| jpavlik | like neutron compatability | 13:24 |
| jasondotstar | nmadhok: do you want to work on this? | 13:24 |
| nmadhok | I wouldn't call any project useless. Spent a lot of hours on it and made deployment easy for a lot of universities/people | 13:24 |
| nmadhok | It's got it's own use case | 13:25 |
| jpavlik | OK, but is developed by only one. Please continue in your usecase | 13:25 |
| jpavlik | this is community who voted and get these formulas | 13:25 |
| jpavlik | please join or continue in your way of implementation. | 13:25 |
| nmadhok | Yeah that's true it's only developed by one | 13:25 |
| nmadhok | didn't have anybody in community that time | 13:25 |
| nmadhok | to work on the project with me | 13:26 |
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| cznewt | jasondotstar: governance is going super, got workflow + from thierry | 13:26 |
| nmadhok | Not going to argue here and start yesterday's discussion all over again | 13:26 |
| jasondotstar | no we don't need to. | 13:26 |
| nmadhok | let's talk about what needs to be done and needs to be implemented | 13:26 |
| nmadhok | it's not about joining or continuing "my" way of implementation | 13:27 |
| jpavlik | can we vote? on next irc meeting | 13:27 |
| jpavlik | to stop this discussion | 13:27 |
| jasondotstar | what would you like to vote on? | 13:27 |
| nmadhok | it's really for the community and not for "me" or "you" | 13:27 |
| jpavlik | about use or stop saltopenstack repo | 13:27 |
| nmadhok | so whatever's best for the community, I'm all in for that | 13:28 |
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| jasondotstar | what we have now is considered the official openstack salt formulas, yes? | 13:28 |
| jasondotstar | would nmadhok, jpavlik, and cznewt agree? | 13:28 |
| jpavlik | I need to solve real issues and vision of openstack-salt instead of dealing with someone personal repo | 13:29 |
| cznewt | well, I'm not conviced that saltopenstack meets the criteria, give me evolution steps | 13:29 |
| jasondotstar | again....what we have now is considered the official openstack salt formulas, yes? | 13:29 |
| jasondotstar | we we have in the openstack-salt projects.... | 13:29 |
| cznewt | yes the openstack-salt is official openstack | 13:29 |
| jasondotstar | who agrees? | 13:29 |
| jpavlik | +1 | 13:30 |
| genunix | +1 | 13:30 |
| cznewt | the formulas for setting opestack services | 13:30 |
| nmadhok | has anybody from SaltStack looked into the project yet? | 13:30 |
| jasondotstar | nmadhok: not the question yet | 13:30 |
| cznewt | +1 | 13:30 |
| jpavlik | +1 | 13:30 |
| jasondotstar | do you agree or disagree with the question | 13:30 |
| nmadhok | Yeah I meant to pose that as the next question | 13:30 |
| nmadhok | +1 | 13:30 |
| jasondotstar | ok so what we have now are the official openstack salt formulas | 13:31 |
| jasondotstar | we already know the answer to your question | 13:31 |
| jasondotstar | but let's ask | 13:31 |
| nmadhok | I don't know the answer myself | 13:31 |
| nmadhok | If someone from Saltstack looked into it yet | 13:31 |
| jpavlik | Is it important? | 13:32 |
| jasondotstar | who would agree that no one from the SaltStack community has looked at what we have? | 13:32 |
| cznewt | well David Boucha | 13:32 |
| jasondotstar | ok | 13:32 |
| nmadhok | not Salt community, SaltStack as a company themselves | 13:32 |
| nmadhok | I don't work for the company | 13:32 |
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| cznewt | saying something about it "being great" but not hearing eversince | 13:32 |
| nmadhok | that's awesome | 13:32 |
| jasondotstar | so 1 from the broader salt community | 13:32 |
| jasondotstar | anyone else? | 13:33 |
| cznewt | david is the top tech guy at salt company | 13:33 |
| nmadhok | David works for Salt | 13:33 |
| jasondotstar | anyone else??? | 13:33 |
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| jasondotstar | we're at 1 | 13:33 |
| cznewt | we tried to push it to the salt community, but no response | 13:33 |
| * jasondotstar that point was coming | 13:33 | |
| nmadhok | Who did you contact? | 13:33 |
| jasondotstar | hang on ppl | 13:33 |
| jpavlik | What is the point? Can we create widely used solution for life cycle in OpenStack or invite people who wrote salt? | 13:33 |
| jasondotstar | are we in agreement | 13:34 |
| nmadhok | The idea is to get both communities together | 13:34 |
| jasondotstar | that only one person has looked? | 13:34 |
| cznewt | push the unconflicting formulas + linux to salt-formulas namespace and get the response from the community | 13:34 |
| nmadhok | I don't care whose project it is (mine or yours). At the end of the day it's the community's project | 13:34 |
| jpavlik | Idea is to be successful for openstack | 13:34 |
| cznewt | jasondotstar: that is the only confirmed one | 13:34 |
| jasondotstar | cznewt: THANK YOU | 13:34 |
| nmadhok | jpavlik: correct | 13:34 |
| nmadhok | but also for Salt | 13:35 |
| jasondotstar | ok so we agree that the openstack-salt repos are the official ones | 13:35 |
| jpavlik | +1 | 13:35 |
| nmadhok | If you're using Salt and don't have agreement of Salt community then it's not worth it | 13:35 |
| jasondotstar | but, we've only had 1 person from the salt community take a look at what we have | 13:35 |
| jasondotstar | ? | 13:35 |
| jasondotstar | we all agree on these two points, yes? | 13:35 |
| nmadhok | Correct | 13:35 |
| jpavlik | I agree that 1 person took look | 13:36 |
| cznewt | yes | 13:36 |
| jasondotstar | ok.... cznewt as PTL, would you agree that for the benefit of OpenStack | 13:36 |
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| nmadhok | I can represent the Salt community but not SaltStack as a company | 13:36 |
| jasondotstar | it's important that we consider what the greater salt community has to say | 13:36 |
| nmadhok | so definitely you need someone from the company to agree as well | 13:36 |
| jasondotstar | about what we've done? | 13:36 |
| jpavlik | None from salt community was interested until now, when it starting to be offficial | 13:37 |
| cznewt | but, I've pinponted points to be solved from the salt community formula side | 13:37 |
| jasondotstar | #agreed the openstack-salt repos are the official repos for the Salt efforts within the OpenStack community | 13:37 |
| jasondotstar | cznewt: did you see my question? | 13:37 |
| nmadhok | Was anyone from Salt community (not the company) contacted about the effort? | 13:37 |
| jpavlik | yes, you did not respond my team | 13:38 |
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| cznewt | yes, this goes both ways, we have a lot to say to community as well | 13:38 |
| nmadhok | I only came to know about the project when I was going through my emails and saw Jason's email from January | 13:38 |
| jasondotstar | you guys are bickering again. | 13:38 |
| cznewt | as the guidelines for formulas structures are followed not well | 13:38 |
| nmadhok | I'm pretty much open. I already said there are things that will need to be changed on the Salt Formula's side | 13:39 |
| jasondotstar | cznewt: +1, we value salt's opinion, and salt should value ours | 13:39 |
| jasondotstar | yes? | 13:39 |
| nmadhok | But need everyone here to respect each other's work | 13:39 |
| jpavlik | nmadhok: can you stop talking and create blueprint? | 13:39 |
| jpavlik | as we aggreed? | 13:39 |
| cznewt | yes | 13:39 |
| nmadhok | I'm not building anything for my company | 13:39 |
| nmadhok | or to make money | 13:39 |
| jasondotstar | ok the best way for the salt guys | 13:39 |
| nmadhok | I spent time doing things for the community | 13:39 |
| nmadhok | So respect that | 13:39 |
| cznewt | well we're desinging battle hardened solutions | 13:40 |
| jpavlik | nmadhok: so respect rules. Create blueprint with suggestions | 13:40 |
| nmadhok | Neither am I paid for it neither do I use the stuff I've worked on to make money | 13:40 |
| jasondotstar | to give us their opinion as I mentioned before is to create a blueprint. | 13:40 |
| nmadhok | And I agreed with that | 13:40 |
| jpavlik | Can nmadhok stop talking until first blueprint appeared? | 13:40 |
| cznewt | still there needs to be a quick research what effort is duped | 13:40 |
| nmadhok | Any change that will need to be made, will require a blueprint | 13:40 |
| nmadhok | Did I say I didn't agree with that? | 13:41 |
| jasondotstar | yes. | 13:41 |
| jasondotstar | in the meantime.... | 13:41 |
| nmadhok | I started today's conversation with what needs to be done for the openstack-salt project | 13:41 |
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| jpavlik | nmadhok: you cannot know that | 13:41 |
| nmadhok | I can start looking into what features need to be added | 13:42 |
| jpavlik | because you saw this yeasterday for firstime | 13:42 |
| nmadhok | or what projects/formulas need to be worked upon | 13:42 |
| nmadhok | I installed this yesterday for the first time. Looked at it sometime last to last week | 13:42 |
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| jpavlik | you are not managing this project. Can you let jasondotstar and cznewt manage this irc as ussually | 13:42 |
| nmadhok | But can get upto speed | 13:42 |
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| nmadhok | Did I say I'm managing this project? | 13:43 |
| nmadhok | I'm asking what needs to be done as a community user of the OpenStack community | 13:43 |
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| jpavlik | nmadhok: please create neutron ovs | 13:43 |
| cznewt | well let's talk to topic | 13:43 |
| jpavlik | this is wish of community | 13:43 |
| cznewt | i'll look into the differences of opesntack-salt / community till next time | 13:43 |
| jpavlik | we have a lot of work that needs to be done on functionality side | 13:44 |
| jpavlik | nice salty leave for blueprint | 13:44 |
| cznewt | then I have a testing deployments progress | 13:44 |
| jpavlik | genunix: works on CI/CD with better testing now | 13:44 |
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| cznewt | with orchestration updates to test the gerrit review changes | 13:44 |
| cznewt | jasondotstar: can you ples add me the action for the diff chcek | 13:45 |
| jasondotstar | #action cznewt to investigate the differences between the openstack-salt project and the salt community project | 13:46 |
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| cznewt | as much as I like salt, the formulas part has been left free to play with vague rules to follow [and evolving through history] | 13:47 |
| jasondotstar | are we going to be able to collaborate with each other? | 13:47 |
| jasondotstar | this is getting ridiculous. | 13:47 |
| cznewt | I'd like to see if we put some of our formulas how the community will react | 13:47 |
| jasondotstar | cznewt: +1 | 13:47 |
| jpavlik | +1 | 13:47 |
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| cznewt | nmadhok: what do you think? | 13:48 |
| nmadhok | I'd like to see that too. But just getting rid of old formulas we have is not possible | 13:48 |
| nmadhok | We need a deprecation workflow and slowly need to accommodate changes | 13:48 |
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| nmadhok | We have a large community that relies on the currently Salt formulas | 13:49 |
| jasondotstar | neither one of these projects | 13:49 |
| nmadhok | *current | 13:49 |
| jasondotstar | belong to any one company or entity | 13:49 |
| nmadhok | and most of the projects were started by the community, for the community and not by any company | 13:50 |
| nmadhok | I just try to review and merge and fill the gaps | 13:50 |
| jasondotstar | how are the puppet guys working together? | 13:51 |
| jasondotstar | somehow, there is a workflow that allows the openstack puppet team to push their modules upstream | 13:51 |
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| nmadhok | OpenStack and Pupet work together | 13:51 |
| jpavlik | we are openstack-salt community. We started and it is more than 15 people | 13:51 |
| jasondotstar | right | 13:51 |
| nmadhok | just like OpenStack community and Ansible community work together | 13:52 |
| jasondotstar | i understand | 13:52 |
| jasondotstar | but how do we take what we consider to be the official salt formulas | 13:52 |
| jasondotstar | and push them upstream? | 13:52 |
| cznewt | and the only problem is that community formulas do not comply with requirements we have, I'm figuring way to make it work | 13:52 |
| jasondotstar | cznewt: we => 'OpenStack' ? | 13:52 |
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| cznewt | but this is the most shitty complex problem that I faced | 13:53 |
| nmadhok | you need agreement of SaltStack employees and community for it to be considered official | 13:53 |
| jpavlik | Can salt formulas look in same way? nmadhok start there | 13:53 |
| jpavlik | then please come here | 13:53 |
| cznewt | we as the openstack-salt team | 13:53 |
| jpavlik | we are openstack-salt | 13:53 |
| jpavlik | we have everything in same way | 13:53 |
| jasondotstar | we are our requirements ? | 13:53 |
| jpavlik | saltstack-formulas are differnet between themself | 13:53 |
| jpavlik | nobody was able to start this project | 13:53 |
| cznewt | nmadhok: i tried, I mailed you, I mailed salt guys | 13:53 |
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| jasondotstar | specifically what are the requirements that we have the differ from the salt community? | 13:54 |
| jpavlik | we spent more than 6 month | 13:54 |
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| jpavlik | and now nmadhok come here start talking this? | 13:54 |
| cznewt | and the response was not at all | 13:54 |
| nmadhok | cznewt: I responded to your email but didn't get a response back | 13:54 |
| jasondotstar | that's true we did reach out | 13:54 |
| nmadhok | I don't represent Saltstack as a company but can definitely talk to them | 13:54 |
| jasondotstar | and we've reached out on the forums too. | 13:54 |
| jpavlik | please think about yourself | 13:54 |
| jasondotstar | we need another person from the salt community | 13:54 |
| jpavlik | I do not know any community where someone came and start put critism | 13:54 |
| jpavlik | until any our added value | 13:55 |
| jpavlik | I suggest to continue in our work | 13:55 |
| nmadhok | Not putting any criticism here. But for something to be considered official between both communities, it has to be vetted by both communities | 13:55 |
| jpavlik | nmadhok: SaltStack was not interested | 13:55 |
| jpavlik | please do not waste our time | 13:55 |
| jpavlik | we have to work on mitaka release | 13:56 |
| nmadhok | Maybe there was a reason they were not interested? | 13:56 |
| jpavlik | yes | 13:56 |
| jpavlik | they do not have time | 13:56 |
| jpavlik | and community is not one | 13:56 |
| jpavlik | everyone does it in different way | 13:56 |
| jpavlik | we do not want to be like salt formulas | 13:56 |
| jpavlik | every is different | 13:56 |
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| jpavlik | so please fix your side | 13:56 |
| jpavlik | then suggest something here | 13:56 |
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| jpavlik | who are you? | 13:56 |
| nmadhok | OpenStack community user | 13:56 |
| jpavlik | you did not know yesterday how to push review | 13:57 |
| jpavlik | and now you are community user | 13:57 |
| jasondotstar | ok, I can't continue. I think we're done. | 13:57 |
| jpavlik | Please use stanard cannal | 13:57 |
| jasondotstar | #endmeeting | 13:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 13:57 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 17 13:57:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_salt/2016/openstack_salt.2016-05-17-13.03.html | 13:57 |
| jpavlik | please put blueprint | 13:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_salt/2016/openstack_salt.2016-05-17-13.03.txt | 13:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_salt/2016/openstack_salt.2016-05-17-13.03.log.html | 13:57 |
| cznewt | guys, calm down :) | 13:57 |
| nmadhok | There is a difference between a user and developer | 13:57 |
| nmadhok | You should be aware about that? | 13:57 |
| jpavlik | yes | 13:57 |
| jpavlik | user uses | 13:57 |
| jasondotstar | continue in channel plz | 13:57 |
| jpavlik | dveloper develops | 13:57 |
| jpavlik | you are user | 13:57 |
| jpavlik | so please go | 13:57 |
| jpavlik | OK | 13:58 |
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| nmadhok | openstack-salt community is very welcoming | 13:58 |
| nmadhok | That's really nice | 13:58 |
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| carl_baldwin | Hi | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 14:00 |
| xiaohhui | hello | 14:00 |
| carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron_routed_networks | 14:01 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 17 14:01:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_routed_networks)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_routed_networks' | 14:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/routed-provider-networks-notes | 14:01 |
| carl_baldwin | First, like the L3 meeting agenda, I'm now using the etherpad instead of the wiki. | 14:01 |
| carl_baldwin | Second, Newton-1 is just two short weeks away. | 14:02 |
| carl_baldwin | Any other announcements? | 14:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic Progress | 14:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | The subnet / segment association is now merged. | 14:03 |
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| mlavalle | ++ | 14:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | I also got one IPAM patch merged which should allow someone to enhance the allocation algorithm to consider multiple subnets at once. | 14:04 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: were you or James going to take that? I forget. | 14:05 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Could you remind of James's nick? | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: I haven't offered but if you think I can help, I'll take it | 14:05 |
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| carl_baldwin | It might have been something else I'm thinking of. | 14:06 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Let's make sure we progress on some other things before taking that on. | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | ok | 14:06 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Segment / Host Mapping | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Segment / Host Mapping (Meeting topic: neutron_routed_networks)" | 14:06 | |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I've seen that you have an update but I haven't reviewed it yet. | 14:07 |
| mlavalle | yeah, I refactored https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285548/ into a class | 14:07 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Ready for review? | 14:07 |
| mlavalle | yes | 14:07 |
| carl_baldwin | Ok, let's put our review priority on this one. | 14:08 |
| carl_baldwin | I'll review it today. | 14:08 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Anything else? | 14:08 |
| xiaohhui | I will review it tomorrow :) | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | I am still getting a failure with migration script | 14:08 |
| carl_baldwin | That same functional test one? | 14:09 |
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| mlavalle | I will follow up with HenryG about it | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | yeah, it is the same one | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | hopefully either they fix the test or remove it | 14:09 |
| carl_baldwin | Any resolution on what should be done with it? | 14:09 |
| carl_baldwin | Oh, so probably no resolution. | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | I pinged HenryG yesterday but he didn't respond. I'll follow up today again | 14:10 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thanks, I'll look for him too. | 14:10 |
| HenryG | mlavalle: sorry I missed your ping yesterday | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | that's for today | 14:10 |
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| carl_baldwin | That's the next patch we need to go in. We've all kind of piled on that one as a dependency. | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | HenryG: any news on that functional test failing? | 14:11 |
| HenryG | mlavalle: can you refresh my memory? | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | HenryG: the test migration test that is failing with my contract script | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | it gets angry becasuse I have a create table there | 14:12 |
| HenryG | mlavalle: ah yes, I wanted to talk to Ihar about that | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | this is the patchset: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285548/ | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | yeah, I think he is back from vacation since yesterday | 14:13 |
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| carl_baldwin | HenryG: Hopefully we can come to a resolution soon. Thanks for your help. | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: we can move on for the purpose of this meeting. I'll follow up with HenryG today | 14:14 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: thanks. | 14:14 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic Segment Aware IP Allocation | 14:14 |
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| carl_baldwin | I've made some progress on this. | 14:14 |
| carl_baldwin | I have a patch up which uses segment / host mapping to allocate IP addresses from the right segment on port create. | 14:15 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314815 | 14:15 |
| carl_baldwin | This one is ready for review. | 14:15 |
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| carl_baldwin | Basically, if subnets are on segments then IPAM needes binding information to allocate IP addresses. If no binding information, then it doesn't allocate any. | 14:16 |
| carl_baldwin | I am currently working on a patch to follow up and do IP allocation on port update. | 14:16 |
| carl_baldwin | That one isn't up yet but I'll be sure to put it on the etherpad when it is. | 14:17 |
| xiaohhui | What is the binding information? port bind to segment? | 14:17 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: All that is needed is the binding:host parameter. | 14:17 |
| xiaohhui | OK, thanks | 14:18 |
| mlavalle | and that is where the host segments mappings get in the picture, right? :-) | 14:18 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: I raise an exception if there are multiple segments on the network connected to the host. | 14:18 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: ... until we can discuss the issue that you brought up in the etherpad. | 14:18 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: right | 14:19 |
| xiaohhui | So, this is a TODO, instead of a limitation, right? | 14:19 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: Yes. | 14:19 |
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| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: However, I would like to think about the use cases for multiple segments connected to a single host. | 14:20 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: I'm not sure it is very compelling. Do you have use cases for this in mind? | 14:21 |
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| xiaohhui | All I can think about now is mutiple-nic at host | 14:21 |
| xiaohhui | each nic connect to a physical network | 14:22 |
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| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: that is more an implementation than a use case. I want to know why an operator wants to do it. | 14:23 |
| carl_baldwin | I'm adding a note to the etherpad. We can continue the discussion out of band. | 14:23 |
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| xiaohhui | Yeah, I can think some details off the meeting | 14:23 |
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| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: thanks. | 14:24 |
| xiaohhui | :) | 14:24 |
| carl_baldwin | My next step will be to start discussions with Nova about how to do the deferred IP allocation (and unaddressed ports) thing. | 14:25 |
| carl_baldwin | There is an old spec in Nova about this that I'll respin as soon as I can get to it. | 14:25 |
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| carl_baldwin | I'm finding the link, almost there. | 14:26 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vm-boot-with-unaddressed-port | 14:26 |
| carl_baldwin | Anyway, that's all on this topic. | 14:26 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic DHCP scheduler | 14:27 |
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| carl_baldwin | blogan let me know he wouldn't be able to make it today. | 14:27 |
| carl_baldwin | There is a patch up. | 14:28 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311931 | 14:28 |
| carl_baldwin | ... and there is a discussion to be had about how the APIs should look for managing DHCP scheduling for segments | 14:29 |
| carl_baldwin | Basically, the segment analog to the APIs we have for managing it for networks. | 14:29 |
| mlavalle | right | 14:29 |
| carl_baldwin | I'm wondering what the best way to move that discussion along will be. | 14:30 |
| carl_baldwin | Should it go to the ML? | 14:30 |
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| mlavalle | yeah, let's do that | 14:30 |
| mlavalle | worst case we end up discusssing among ourselves anyway | 14:31 |
| carl_baldwin | ok, I'll work with blogan to do that. | 14:31 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin to work with blogan to get discussion going. | 14:31 |
| carl_baldwin | I see that blogan added some notes to the etherpad. | 14:32 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Integration with Nova Scheduler | 14:32 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: still around? | 14:32 |
| mlavalle | yes | 14:32 |
| mlavalle | good news regarding the generic resource pools specs | 14:33 |
| mlavalle | it merged last night | 14:33 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Nice. So, ours is up next? | 14:33 |
| mlavalle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300176/ | 14:33 |
| mlavalle | yeah, that is what mriedem said | 14:33 |
| mlavalle | I just started bugging him this morning | 14:34 |
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| mlavalle | right now he is a meeting. He will get back to me today | 14:34 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thanks. | 14:34 |
| carl_baldwin | Anything else? | 14:34 |
| mlavalle | also, I would like to see if johnthetubaguy made any progress with the refactoring of allocate for instance | 14:35 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so tiny bit of progress | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | got some positive noises on the spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313001/ | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | currently tied up doing spec reviews, with that deadline looming large, for Nova at least | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | it would be great to get more eyes on that spec | 14:36 |
| carl_baldwin | johnthetubaguy: when is that deadline? | 14:36 |
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| mlavalle | johnthetubaguy: I'll review it today | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | 2nd june | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html#nova-non-priority-spec-approval-freeze | 14:37 |
| carl_baldwin | johnthetubaguy: Thanks. | 14:37 |
| mlavalle | johnthetubaguy: anything we can do to help? | 14:37 |
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| carl_baldwin | I'll go read that spec. | 14:37 |
| mlavalle | besides reviewing | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think thats the main things right now | 14:37 |
| mlavalle | will do :-) Thanks for your help! | 14:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | we should look into the routed networks nova spec again I guess, how is that looking? | 14:38 |
| mlavalle | Today I am following up with mriedem | 14:38 |
| carl_baldwin | johnthetubaguy: lonely. | 14:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | whats the link again, so it gets to the top of my queue more quickly :) | 14:38 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263898/ | 14:39 |
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| carl_baldwin | johnthetubaguy: ^ that's it. Thanks. | 14:39 |
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| mlavalle | johnthetubaguy: last time we talked about it with mriedem about it, we were going to merge genrric resource pools and the routed networks was next | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool, its in a tab again :) | 14:39 |
| mlavalle | grp merged last night | 14:39 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that sounds right | 14:40 |
| mlavalle | so I am followup with mrioedem today to make sure that happens :-) | 14:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | all sounds good | 14:41 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: that's all I have today | 14:41 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: johnthetubaguy: thank you. | 14:41 |
| carl_baldwin | keep up the good work. | 14:41 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Enable Create / Delete of Segments on Existing Network | 14:41 |
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| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: You still around? | 14:41 |
| xiaohhui | yeah | 14:41 |
| xiaohhui | I posted a patch today | 14:41 |
| carl_baldwin | I sent a message to the mailing list toward the end of the week last week about this. | 14:42 |
| carl_baldwin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/094833.html | 14:42 |
| xiaohhui | Although I tagged WIP, I think it is ready for review. I will reply that mail to point out some thing to discuss | 14:42 |
| carl_baldwin | I'm hoping for a response for Sukhdev and rkukura | 14:42 |
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| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: Do you have a link? | 14:43 |
| carl_baldwin | I see a link on the etherpad | 14:43 |
| xiaohhui | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317358 | 14:43 |
| xiaohhui | yeah, I update the etherpad right before the meeting | 14:43 |
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| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: Thanks. | 14:45 |
| xiaohhui | Thank you for the advice ealier today | 14:45 |
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| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: At first glance, it looks like a good start. | 14:45 |
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| xiaohhui | That is great. | 14:46 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: Would you mind replying to my ML thread with some of the points that you have on the etherpad? | 14:46 |
| carl_baldwin | I'm hoping to keep that thread alive and start getting attention from ml2 guys. | 14:47 |
| xiaohhui | Sure, I plan to do it before I end my today. | 14:47 |
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| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: I know its late, tomorrow would be fine. | 14:47 |
| xiaohhui | :) | 14:47 |
| mlavalle | xiaohhui: yeah, way too late for you | 14:47 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: Thanks. | 14:48 |
| xiaohhui | I have some draft mail written, just need to click the send button. | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | xiaohhui: ~10:50 pm? | 14:48 |
| xiaohhui | yes, mlavalle | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | kudos for your dedication | 14:49 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: We appreciate your time very much. | 14:49 |
| xiaohhui | Thanks, guys | 14:49 |
| blogan | sorry im extremely late | 14:49 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Open Discussion | 14:50 |
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| carl_baldwin | I think we've hit all of the hot topics. What do others have to discuss? | 14:50 |
| rtheis | carl_baldwin: a couple client patches are ready for your review | 14:50 |
| xiaohhui | I think this patch needs more love https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295173/6 | 14:50 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: I just want to mention that for host segments mapping I am going to add unit tests today. But the patchset is good for review | 14:50 |
| rtheis | SDK: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290054/ | 14:50 |
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| rtheis | which is needed by OSC: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290138/ | 14:51 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: thanks. blogan, could you review his? | 14:52 |
| carl_baldwin | rtheis: I'll review these today. | 14:52 |
| blogan | carl_baldwin, xiaohhui: will do | 14:52 |
| rtheis | carl_baldwin: thank you | 14:52 |
| xiaohhui | carl_baldwin, blogan: thanks | 14:53 |
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| carl_baldwin | Anything else? | 14:53 |
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| carl_baldwin | Going once... | 14:54 |
| rtheis | nothing else from me | 14:54 |
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| carl_baldwin | twice... | 14:54 |
| carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 14:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 17 14:54:59 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_routed_networks/2016/neutron_routed_networks.2016-05-17-14.01.html | 14:55 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks, all! | 14:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_routed_networks/2016/neutron_routed_networks.2016-05-17-14.01.txt | 14:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_routed_networks/2016/neutron_routed_networks.2016-05-17-14.01.log.html | 14:55 |
| mlavalle | thanks! | 14:55 |
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| xiaohhui | bye~ | 14:55 |
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| EmilienM | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 17 15:00:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 15:00 |
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| EmilienM | #link agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20160517 | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | o/ | 15:00 |
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| bkero | o/ | 15:00 |
| degorenko | hey o/ | 15:00 |
| _ody | o/ | 15:00 |
| vinsh | o/ | 15:00 |
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| mwhahaha | hi | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | #topic Review past actions items | 15:01 |
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| EmilienM | postpone config-deprecation-for-inifile-provider to newton : done -> http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/puppet-openstack-specs/specs/newton/config-deprecation-for-inifile-provider.html | 15:01 |
| mattymo | hi | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | vinsh to work on puppet-swift for xenial support and degorenko to start looking at Xenial support -> they are making good progress | 15:01 |
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| EmilienM | EmilienM create launchpad for normalize_ip_for_uri function : need to be postponed | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM create launchpad for normalize_ip_for_uri function | 15:01 |
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| vinsh | Both changes have merged for xenial and puppet-swift. | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | I don't think we have announcements this week | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | #topic CI status | 15:02 |
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| degorenko | yep, also fixed same issue as for swift (with upstart provider) for mongodb | 15:02 |
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| EmilienM | ok let me summarize a bit the CI status this week : | 15:02 |
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| EmilienM | 1) we have a working group on Xenial support: degorenko, vinsh and myself for now https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-xenial | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | we're still waiting for a release of puppetlabs-mysql and puppetlabs-mongodb AFIK | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | Hunner, _ody ^ FYI | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | until then, we'll pin the right commit in Puppetfile. | 15:04 |
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| EmilienM | 2) I'm working on updating our CI to test latest Newton | 15:04 |
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| EmilienM | our major blocker here is that we need RDO to update paramiko >= 2.0 | 15:05 |
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| EmilienM | if you have CI failures on centos7 and in the logs you see 3 tempests tests that fail because of nova, it's mostly this bug | 15:05 |
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| EmilienM | before recheck or ask on IRC, please check that | 15:05 |
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| bkero | Which RDO packages are missing for newton testing? | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | 3) colonwq is working on bumping puppet-ceph to Jewel release in our CI | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | bkero: nothing is missing, we need to update common deps | 15:06 |
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| EmilienM | bkero: right now, we're using same deps as Mitaka | 15:06 |
| bkero | Ah, ok. | 15:06 |
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| * bkero makes a note of that | 15:06 | |
| EmilienM | anyway, we should have this fix very very soon, I'm pushing on it | 15:07 |
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| EmilienM | bkero: it's in the code btw https://github.com/openstack/puppet-openstack-integration/blob/master/manifests/repos.pp#L30 | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | and 4) I'm working with pabelanger to use OpenStack Infra centos7 mirror in our stable jobs | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | so hopefully we'll have less repo timeouts in stable jobs | 15:08 |
| mfisch | here | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | for master, we can't use mirror atm because everything is bleeding edge | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | any question about CI? any useful update? | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | next topic: xenial | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | #topic xenial testing status | 15:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "xenial testing status (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:09 | |
| EmilienM | degorenko, vinsh: do you guys have an update? any blocker? | 15:09 |
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| EmilienM | #link xenial testing status: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-xenial | 15:09 |
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| vinsh | No update from me... swift working. | 15:10 |
| degorenko | i dont have any blocker, trying to test scenario1 locally on my vm with all uploaded/merged patches | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | excellent, thanks for your help guys | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | I contacted UCA folks yesterday and they are not ready for Newton packaging yet | 15:10 |
| degorenko | :( | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | I think we have ~2 weeks before having working packaging (at minimum). | 15:10 |
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| EmilienM | so let's focus on getting Xenial jobs working with Mitaka code | 15:11 |
| degorenko | agree | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | any question / comment about Xenial testing? | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | #topic release management status | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release management status (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:11 | |
| EmilienM | so we'll produce our first Newton release in 2 weeks | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | I'll prepare release notes & metadata.json by next week or so. Now we have reno in place and we're going to use OpenStack release management, releases will be simpler | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | please keep -1 when release notes are missing (and help people to make it) | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | I think everyone got used to it, it's super cool | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | any questions about release? | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | we don't have new blueprint | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | so i'll skip blueprint status | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | #topic bug triage status | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bug triage status (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:13 | |
| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-puppet-bug-triage | 15:14 |
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| EmilienM | I made some progress on bug triage last week, but not finished yet | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | if anyone volunteer to help please let me know. | 15:14 |
| _ody | I'll do some today. | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | good | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | anything that is merged needs to be "Fix released" | 15:14 |
| chem` | I've been lost in translation, so I didn't do much on this last week. We do better this week. | 15:15 |
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| bkero | I'd like to help out with that as well | 15:15 |
| chem` | s/we/I/ | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | bkero: cool, we'll sync after meeting | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | any outstanding bug today that we need to discuss? | 15:15 |
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| EmilienM | #topic doc status | 15:16 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-puppet-docs | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | bkero, iurygregory: o/ | 15:16 |
| vanditboy | hello | 15:16 |
| bkero | \o | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | do we have blockers or do you need reviews or are we done? | 15:16 |
| bkero | I believe all the docs have either open reviews or have been merged. They could use some touching up and general improvements though. | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | what are we doing with our current pages in Wiki? | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | maybe I already asked the question 10 times sorry | 15:17 |
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| bkero | Nothing, although we should lock them, strike them through and post a link to the new docs, or delete them | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | bkero: can we lock them? | 15:18 |
| bkero | I'm in favor of posting a strike-through, then at the top saying that they are deprecated, with a link to the new docs. They're still readable, but readers know they are out of date. | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | I'm not sure if this features does exist | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | ++ excellent idea | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | any objection? | 15:18 |
| degorenko | +1 | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | bkero: can you take care of it? | 15:19 |
| bkero | sure | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | thx a lot | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | #action bkero to strike-through old wiki pages and add a link to new doc somewhere | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | any question / comment about doc? | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | #topic Open Discussion, Bug and Review triage (submit modules to triage here) | 15:20 |
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| EmilienM | vanditboy: hey, are you Michal? | 15:20 |
| vanditboy | hi, I am fine :) | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | vanditboy: please go ahead | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | if you have anything to ask | 15:21 |
| vanditboy | Hi, from my site few things which are inside the etherpad | 15:22 |
| vanditboy | we need to take care of lbaasv2 for magnum | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | vanditboy: are you going to work on it? | 15:23 |
| vanditboy | I can do the puppet module stuff and report it magnum devs | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | cool | 15:23 |
| vanditboy | that we need lbaasv2 support and magnum, correct me here, is dead for mitaka and further | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | so there is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1581876 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/puppet-magnum/+bug/1581372 and you'll need to create a new bug for https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1575524 | 15:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1581876 in neutron "neutron lbaas v2: update of default "device_driver" inside lbaas_agent.ini" [Low,New] | 15:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1581372 in Magnum "Use trustee_domain, trustee_domain_admin name instead of trustee_domain_admin_id and trustee_domain_id for trust configuration" [High,Triaged] | 15:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1575524 in Magnum " ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.dispatcher TrusteeCreateFailed: Failed to create trustee 720d0137-3dc6-4c12-a323-bcfc924466a1 in domain 61a6f2b431c8475dbcc40e756cf3d8d6" [Undecided,New] | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | vanditboy: I'm not sure about deprecations | 15:24 |
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| EmilienM | you'll need to check with neutron folks | 15:25 |
| vanditboy | yep | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | do we have anything else for today? | 15:25 |
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| vanditboy | I will | 15:25 |
| vanditboy | ! | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | I'll close the meeting in 3Ã s | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | 30s* | 15:25 |
| vanditboy | ok | 15:25 |
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| EmilienM | ok have fun folks and use an umbrella if it's raining! cheers | 15:26 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 15:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 17 15:26:05 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-05-17-15.00.html | 15:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-05-17-15.00.txt | 15:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-05-17-15.00.log.html | 15:26 |
| degorenko | vanditboy, also you can use #puppet-openstack channel, feel free to join | 15:26 |
| vanditboy | ok, thanks degorenko | 15:26 |
| vanditboy | ! | 15:26 |
| bkero | Thanks everybody! | 15:26 |
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| vanditboy | thanks! | 15:26 |
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| gibi | #startmeeting nova notification | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 17 17:00:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova notification)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_notification' | 17:00 |
| gibi | hello everyone! | 17:00 |
| rlrossit | o/ | 17:00 |
| syjulian | hi gibi | 17:00 |
| * rlrossit feels good for remembering the meeting today | 17:00 | |
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| gibi | rlrossit: have you managed to eat lunch? | 17:00 |
| rlrossit | just finished the last bite | 17:01 |
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| gibi | good, then everything is well set for the meeting :) | 17:01 |
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| gibi | syjulian: hi! | 17:01 |
| TravT | o/ | 17:01 |
| gibi | TravT: hi! | 17:01 |
| sjmc7 | hey | 17:01 |
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| gibi | OK, lets get started | 17:02 |
| gibi | #topic outstanding reviews | 17:02 |
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| gibi | start with the good news | 17:02 |
| gibi | the json schema generation spec got accepted in ovo | 17:03 |
| gibi | it went easier than I expected | 17:03 |
| gibi | s/than/then/ | 17:03 |
| rlrossit | woo | 17:03 |
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| gibi | rlrossit: you mentioned earlier that you might be interested to implement / help implementing it. if you have time just go ahead | 17:04 |
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| rlrossit | unfortunately, I'm getting caught up in more and more internal things, so I don't think I'll be able to be of much help implementing things :( | 17:04 |
| gibi | rlrossit: no worries. I hope you can still do some reviews as one of the main ovo guy | 17:05 |
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| rlrossit | I hope so as well | 17:05 |
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| gibi | if others are interested to help implementing the schema generation then just catch me or rlrossit for the details | 17:06 |
| gibi | it won't be the easiest patch | 17:06 |
| gibi | I feel | 17:07 |
| rlrossit | yeah that one's going to be kinda interesting | 17:07 |
| rlrossit | s/interesting/complex | 17:07 |
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| gibi | OK lets move to the transformation spec | 17:08 |
| gibi | that is still open | 17:08 |
| gibi | we resolved the instance vs. server naming issue today on IRC so that settled | 17:09 |
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| gibi | I left answers to TravT comments as well during the day | 17:09 |
| TravT | hi gibi, yep | 17:09 |
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| gibi | but we can open those question up here if neede | 17:09 |
| gibi | d | 17:09 |
| TravT | i saw those and put in another comment. | 17:09 |
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| gibi | OK, I haven't read those yet | 17:09 |
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| gibi | do you want to discuss them here or keep the discussion in the review? | 17:10 |
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| TravT | either way is fine for me | 17:10 |
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| TravT | basically, i understand that versioned notifications seems to primarily be about giving a way to communicate change and structure of the notification | 17:10 |
| TravT | we, of course, are also just hoping to get enough data that we don't have to or can severely limit having to call back to the API for more data. | 17:11 |
| TravT | which i realize are different goals. | 17:11 |
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| gibi | one side of the problem is purely technical | 17:12 |
| TravT | since an instance create can emit 7 notifications, doing an API call back is tricky. | 17:12 |
| gibi | when we emitt the notifications we don't have the API structure available but we have an internal object model available | 17:12 |
| gibi | replicating the API structure is possible but it would be quite heavy work as is | 17:13 |
| gibi | and yes the other part of the problem is more fundamental, notification as the name suggest is different from an REST API response | 17:13 |
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| gibi | can we have a compromise on that we first transform what we have from legacy to the new framework and after that we are adding the bits and pieces searchlight really need | 17:14 |
| TravT | sure, that probably makes sense as 1.0 version. | 17:14 |
| TravT | but if the data is even available, we could consider transforming it on consumer side. | 17:15 |
| gibi | this would be a bit different from the process of making everything the same in the notification as in the API and also it would allow a more stepwise process | 17:15 |
| gibi | TravT: let's do it in a way as you proposed in the keypair notification | 17:16 |
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| gibi | TravT: there it seems quite OK to add that couple of extra fields | 17:16 |
| gibi | TravT: however I have bad feeling about pushing the whole instance object out on the wire as is, as a first step | 17:17 |
| TravT | hehe, yeah, i figured that'd be one concern | 17:17 |
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| gibi | if you can propose a set of fields you searchlight need then we can add those as a next step in the instance case as well | 17:17 |
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| TravT | okay, sjmc7 and i can look at that. | 17:18 |
| gibi | great | 17:18 |
| gibi | I really don't want to be the bad guy here, I just want to limit the scope as much as I can :) | 17:18 |
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| TravT | so what you are saying is that you want to have some hope that you get things done? ;) | 17:19 |
| gibi | exatly! | 17:19 |
| gibi | this is nova, it is alway just a hope :) | 17:19 |
| TravT | hahaha | 17:19 |
| gibi | good, that was the two spec I have | 17:20 |
| gibi | does anybody has any spec we need to talk about? | 17:20 |
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| TravT | well, if we can just keep in mind for notifications (new and those to be transformed) that we want to make it possible to avoid API callbacks, then perhaps we can reach that goal someday. | 17:21 |
| TravT | and iterate there as best we can. | 17:21 |
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| gibi | sure | 17:22 |
| gibi | does searchlight want to index everything that is on the API or is there some rules what searchligth keeps and what not? | 17:23 |
| TravT | we index most things. and then we provide quite a few ways in which we control the access to the things | 17:23 |
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| TravT | sure, you can also do a devstack deploy of it to try it out. | 17:24 |
| TravT | just ping me when you find the time and i can help. | 17:25 |
| gibi | I will check on one of the lazy Friday afternoons | 17:25 |
| gibi | TravT: thanks | 17:25 |
| gibi | anybody want to discuss a spec? | 17:25 |
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| gibi | OK | 17:27 |
| gibi | then lets move forward | 17:27 |
| gibi | before I left for vacation I pushed up some PoC code for the transformation of instance.delete | 17:27 |
| gibi | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/versioned-notification-transformation-newton | 17:28 |
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| gibi | there is lot of raw edges there | 17:28 |
| gibi | rlrossit already pointed out some in the series, thanks for it | 17:28 |
| rlrossit | lotsa merge conflict there :) | 17:28 |
| gibi | yeah, I'm working on it. :) | 17:29 |
| gibi | rlrossit: regarding the auto discovery of the notification objects | 17:29 |
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| gibi | rlrossit: can we reuse the register_if(False) calls to get some sort of registry about the notification objects? | 17:30 |
| rlrossit | I just saw your comment on that patch regarding that | 17:30 |
| rlrossit | hmmmm | 17:30 |
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| rlrossit | ovo has a registration hook mechanism I think that maybe we can piggyback on | 17:31 |
| rlrossit | it appears that's part of the object registry | 17:31 |
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| rlrossit | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.versionedobjects/blob/master/oslo_versionedobjects/base.py#L112 | 17:31 |
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| rlrossit | gibi: yeah, maybe we'll have to make a register_notification() decorator that makes things a little easier on us | 17:32 |
| rlrossit | I already discussed with dansmith that register_if(False) can get kind of confusing (because from an initial readability standpoint, it's kind of lacking) | 17:33 |
| gibi | rlrossit: good idea, it can call the register_if(False) and also create a list of notification objects for testing | 17:33 |
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| rlrossit | yup | 17:33 |
| gibi | and it would be a lot more readably / logical for the reader | 17:33 |
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| rlrossit | gibi: plus that way for things like PayloadBase, you won't do register_notification on that, because we don't want to actually version the base classes | 17:34 |
| gibi | rlrossit: right | 17:34 |
| gibi | I think I will do this | 17:35 |
| gibi | let's see how it looks in action | 17:35 |
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| gibi | thanks | 17:36 |
| gibi | does anybody has any non spec patch to talk about? | 17:36 |
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| gibi | seem like we can move forward to the last topic | 17:38 |
| gibi | #topic open discussion | 17:38 |
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| gibi | I have nothing extra to add | 17:38 |
| gibi | anybody? | 17:38 |
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| gibi | rlrossit: sleepy from the food? :) | 17:39 |
| rlrossit | gibi: no, sleepy from getting back from a short vacation yesterday :) | 17:40 |
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| gibi | rlrossit: I had a whole week of vacation, getting back was really a shock today | 17:40 |
| gibi | vacation is good :) we need more :) | 17:41 |
| gibi | anyhow It seems we are out of notification stuff so let's go back to work / sleep :) | 17:41 |
| gibi | thanks for the valuable meeting | 17:42 |
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| gibi | #endmeeting | 17:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 17 17:42:29 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2016/nova_notification.2016-05-17-17.00.html | 17:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2016/nova_notification.2016-05-17-17.00.txt | 17:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2016/nova_notification.2016-05-17-17.00.log.html | 17:42 |
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| markus_z | #startmeeting nova-bugs-team | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 17 18:00:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markus_z. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_bugs_team' | 18:00 |
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| auggy | o/ | 18:00 |
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| markus_z | hey ho | 18:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 18:00 |
| sneti | o/ | 18:01 |
| raj_sing- | o/ | 18:01 |
| aunnam_ | o/ | 18:01 |
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| markus_z | good news first, andrearosa is going to do the bug skimming duty this week | 18:01 |
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| markus_z | \o/ | 18:02 |
| auggy | hooray! | 18:02 |
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| markus_z | #info 25 open "new" bugs | 18:02 |
| markus_z | Anyone interested to look at them? | 18:03 |
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| mriedem | i looked at some last week, there are probably some easy invalids from first look | 18:04 |
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| auggy | yeah i was just thinking i can do a quick skim for anything obvious | 18:04 |
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| raj_sing- | I can do bug skimming next week | 18:04 |
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| sneti | markus_z, http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html#tabInProgressStale. Is this where I can find the list? | 18:05 |
| auggy | mriedem: dang you are fast | 18:05 |
| aunnam_ | yesterday i went over the stale bugs and will also do the bug skimming this week | 18:05 |
| markus_z | raj_sing-: yeah, that would be great! Would you add your name here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Weekly_bug_skimming_duty | 18:05 |
| raj_sing- | will do | 18:06 |
| markus_z | sneti: That list also needs some attention. Would you check it? | 18:06 |
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| sneti | markus_z, sure..will check that. also I looked at some new bugs yesterday.. | 18:06 |
| markus_z | sneti: It's mainly double-checking with the assingees if they are still working on these reports. | 18:06 |
| sneti | markus_z, ok | 18:07 |
| markus_z | aunnam_: andrearosa does the skimming of new bugs too. It would make sense to contact him in #openstack-nova tomorrow. He's in the UTC+1 timezone. | 18:08 |
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| aunnam_ | markus_z, nice., will contact him | 18:09 |
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| markus_z | I closed some of the old wishlist reports today. Will be done with it tomorrow. | 18:09 |
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| markus_z | #info 844 open bugs overall | 18:10 |
| markus_z | Anyone has bandwidth to look at the stale-incomplete bug reports? | 18:10 |
| markus_z | #link http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html#tabIncompleteStale | 18:10 |
| auggy | markus_z: i can make some time this week to work on stale-incomplete bugs | 18:11 |
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| markus_z | awesome :) I assume a lot of them can be closed (which is often the case). | 18:12 |
| aunnam_ | markus_z, i can also spend sometime on stale bugs | 18:13 |
| markus_z | cool, everything helps :) | 18:13 |
| markus_z | I think we covered then most of the tasks, I'm baffled. | 18:14 |
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| markus_z | Are there any open questions right now? | 18:14 |
| markus_z | Regarding process, specific bug reports, anything like that | 18:15 |
| sneti | markus_z, where can I find the new bugs ? | 18:15 |
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| markus_z | sneti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 18:15 |
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| aunnam_ | markus_z, http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html#tabIncompleteStale | 18:16 |
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| aunnam_ | what is recent tab here? | 18:16 |
| sneti | markus_z, ok..sorry..launchpad.. I thought there is some list maintained for that.. | 18:17 |
| markus_z | aunnam_: The "recent" tab is every created bug report of the last 10 days. | 18:17 |
| markus_z | s/is/contains | 18:17 |
| markus_z | sneti: Na, sometimes launchpad is good enough ;) | 18:17 |
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| markus_z | Anything else you'd like to discuss? | 18:18 |
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| markus_z | OK, closing in 3.... | 18:19 |
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| markus_z | Thanks for your time, next meeting is on next Tuesday at 10:00 UTC | 18:19 |
| markus_z | #endmeeting | 18:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:19 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 17 18:19:53 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-05-17-18.00.html | 18:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-05-17-18.00.txt | 18:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-05-17-18.00.log.html | 18:19 |
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