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| apuimedo | #startmeeting kuryr | 15:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 9 15:02:36 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 15:02 |
| apuimedo | Hello! And welcome to yet another kuryr weekly meeting! | 15:02 |
| apuimedo | Is there anybody here for it? | 15:03 |
| banix | O/ | 15:03 |
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| mspreitz | o/ | 15:03 |
| banix | That's me with my big head. | 15:03 |
| apuimedo | so then, O-/ that's me with the big nose | 15:04 |
| apuimedo | thanks mspreitz and banix for joining :-) | 15:04 |
| apuimedo | I think Irena will join us in half an hour or so | 15:04 |
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| apuimedo | #topic repository splitting | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "repository splitting (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 15:05 | |
| apuimedo | Gal is on holidays but he has submitted patches for creating the subprojects with openstack-infra | 15:05 |
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| apuimedo | we'll leave openstack/kuryr for the common code | 15:05 |
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| apuimedo | we'll move libnetwork to openstack/kuryr-libnetwork | 15:07 |
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| apuimedo | and k8s to openstack/kuryr-kubernetes | 15:07 |
| apuimedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313981/6/gerrit/projects.yaml | 15:07 |
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| apuimedo | #info patches submitted for creating kuryr-libnetwork and kuryr-kubernetes repositories as Kuryr subprojects | 15:07 |
| apuimedo | Kuryr cores will be the same | 15:08 |
| devvesa | o/ | 15:08 |
| apuimedo | but I expect that we may introduce cores for a single sub project in the future | 15:08 |
| apuimedo | devvesa: nice to see you here | 15:08 |
| devvesa | thx :) | 15:08 |
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| apuimedo | any questions about the split? | 15:09 |
| apuimedo | ok, moving on | 15:10 |
| apuimedo | #topic libnetwork updates | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "libnetwork updates (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 15:10 | |
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| apuimedo | #info The ovs libnetwork container has been merged into the repo | 15:10 |
| apuimedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279320/ | 15:10 |
| apuimedo | Today it will be added for automated builds | 15:11 |
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| apuimedo | the image is already available in docker hub | 15:11 |
| apuimedo | #info docker pull kuryr/libnetwork:ovs | 15:11 |
| apuimedo | I hope other vendors join and ask for publishing in kuryr/libnetwork:vendor_name or publish their own in their own repositories | 15:12 |
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| apuimedo | #info: ping apuimedo if you want to add your vendor automated build | 15:12 |
| huikang | hello | 15:12 |
| apuimedo | huikang: Hey! Nice to see you too! | 15:12 |
| apuimedo | I was just mentioning that our dockerfile has been merged | 15:13 |
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| apuimedo | and has been tested alongside devstack | 15:13 |
| huikang | nice | 15:13 |
| apuimedo | that should allow us to move forward testing tests where instead of devstack we use containers from kolla for the networking | 15:13 |
| huikang | ok | 15:14 |
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| huikang | so I will write the gate job to setup kolla and test kuryr | 15:15 |
| huikang | apuimedo, how about the keystone v3 issue? | 15:15 |
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| apuimedo | huikang: ah yes. That's the remaining action :P | 15:16 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to check if there is a bug for it and to try to get it sorted out by next week | 15:16 |
| apuimedo | we also got the calico binding script merged | 15:17 |
| apuimedo | #info project Calico binding script merged | 15:17 |
| huikang | For gate job, we can ask kolla keystone generate a temporary v3 token for kuryr. | 15:17 |
| apuimedo | #info the container uses uwsgi to provide libnetwork with multiple cores and threads | 15:17 |
| apuimedo | #action all packaging to include the uwsgi usage | 15:18 |
| banix | Was posting on wrong channel :) | 15:18 |
| apuimedo | huikang: well, we should do that as part of kuryr, or you mean as part of of the jenkins shellscript? | 15:18 |
| apuimedo | banix: where were you posting? | 15:19 |
| huikang | jenkins shellscript | 15:19 |
| apuimedo | huikang: we can start with that, yes :-) | 15:19 |
| huikang | great, apuimedo | 15:19 |
| apuimedo | banix: I see it now | 15:19 |
| apuimedo | banix: to the question about testing, the answer is | 15:20 |
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| apuimedo | I want the post merge test using the automatically built container | 15:20 |
| banix | Regarding keystone v3, Hui did you asign the bug to yourself? | 15:20 |
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| banix | Or is it on Fawad's list? | 15:20 |
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| huikang | it is still on Fawad's list | 15:20 |
| huikang | the same thread | 15:21 |
| banix | Ok | 15:21 |
| apuimedo | very well | 15:22 |
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| banix | apuimedo I think huikang is looking into next steps | 15:22 |
| apuimedo | banix: any update on the routing/gateway specification? | 15:22 |
| banix | I noticed a couple of new api in libnrtwork | 15:22 |
| banix | That deal with external connectivity | 15:22 |
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| banix | Haven't looked closely but I thought we may use that for router stuff | 15:23 |
| banix | Anyway will get that sorted out this week | 15:23 |
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| apuimedo | mmm | 15:23 |
| apuimedo | so probably we should use those instead of making our own -o API | 15:24 |
| apuimedo | #action banix to look into the new 1.11 libnetwork external connectivity API | 15:24 |
| banix | Yeah if possible | 15:24 |
| apuimedo | banix: you can do even the impossible :-) | 15:24 |
| banix | One more thing | 15:25 |
| banix | Regarding libnetwork :) | 15:25 |
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| apuimedo | banix: what else? | 15:25 |
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| banix | I'm going to have a patch to allow for user to wait for a join to complete only when port is operational | 15:26 |
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| huikang | sounds like an opposite to "--no-wait" in OVS | 15:26 |
| apuimedo | banix: how often do you see delays due to it? | 15:27 |
| banix | Put the bug reference in the wiki | 15:27 |
| apuimedo | huikang: that in ovs is for the ovs-vsctl operation? | 15:27 |
| banix | Based on past experience under heavy load that can be a problem | 15:27 |
| apuimedo | interesting | 15:27 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 15:27 |
| huikang | yes, apuimedo. what is default behavior? | 15:27 |
| apuimedo | huikang: no idea. I'm not very experienced with ovs. I only used it recently with the libnetwork container :P | 15:28 |
| huikang | apuimedo, sorry. I was asking the default behavior in kuryr or libnetwork | 15:28 |
| banix | Huikang nova has similar options | 15:29 |
| apuimedo | #action banix to publish a patch so that network join waits for the port to be operational | 15:29 |
| apuimedo | huikang: we use the ovs-vsctl default | 15:29 |
| apuimedo | just like nova does | 15:29 |
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| banix | Pls sea the bug report. On my phone so don't have the link. Sorry. | 15:29 |
| apuimedo | anything else about libnetwork? | 15:29 |
| apuimedo | I'll check it then | 15:29 |
| apuimedo | after the meeting | 15:29 |
| apuimedo | thanks banix | 15:29 |
| banix | No from me | 15:29 |
| huikang | banix, apuimedo, thanks for explaining this | 15:29 |
| apuimedo | thanks to you for the help | 15:30 |
| apuimedo | #topic kubernetes | 15:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kubernetes (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 15:30 | |
| apuimedo | As soon as the repository is created we'll start submitting the patches | 15:30 |
| huikang | so I will start creating the shell script to pulling kolla on the gate | 15:30 |
| apuimedo | #info kubernetes specs will still leave in the main repository, openstack/kuryr | 15:31 |
| mspreitz | BTW, I have something that is for kubernetes but is directly something about libnetwork. | 15:31 |
| apuimedo | thanks a lot huikang! | 15:31 |
| apuimedo | mspreitz: you got the adapter working? | 15:31 |
| huikang | apuimedo, my pleasure | 15:31 |
| mspreitz | I have a simple "translate" approach CNI plugin in the Kubernetes contrib repo. But I wanted to raise the issue of `docker network connect --ip=XXX`. IBM is going to need that to work, by latching onto a pre-existing but unused Neutron Port. | 15:32 |
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| apuimedo | aha | 15:33 |
| apuimedo | mspreitz: I take it, it does not work right now, does it? | 15:33 |
| mspreitz | I think banix said something that implies it does not work right now. | 15:33 |
| banix | Should be easy to add | 15:33 |
| apuimedo | it's part of the Docker libnetwork API and we should consider it a bug, if it does not work | 15:33 |
| apuimedo | I will try it out | 15:34 |
| banix | It should work | 15:34 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to test "docker network connect --ip="xxx" | 15:34 |
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| banix | Specifying the ip that is | 15:34 |
| apuimedo | banix: I could imagine us not honoring the IP parameter though | 15:34 |
| mspreitz | The possibly unexpected part is that what I want is `--ip=W.X.Y.Z` to latch onto a pre-existing Port with that Ip address | 15:34 |
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| banix | Using pre existing port may not | 15:34 |
| banix | Yes exactly | 15:35 |
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| banix | We honor the up request | 15:35 |
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| banix | Up | 15:35 |
| apuimedo | banix: mspreitz: We'll only do that if the port has not been updated with binding information | 15:35 |
| apuimedo | otherwise it opens the door for nasty hijacking, I believe | 15:35 |
| apuimedo | (correct me if I'm wrong) | 15:36 |
| banix | Correct | 15:36 |
| mspreitz | Exactly. I want `--ip=W.X.Y.Z` to latch onto a pre-existing Port that has that IP address and is not currently in use. | 15:36 |
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| apuimedo | mspreitz: very well | 15:36 |
| apuimedo | we can add that | 15:36 |
| banix | We will work through the use case Mike has | 15:36 |
| mspreitz | great | 15:37 |
| apuimedo | banix: perfect! | 15:37 |
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| apuimedo | #action mspreitz banix to report a bug for reusing unused ports (finding them by IP) | 15:37 |
| apuimedo | mspreitz: any other news from the kubernetes-net-sig camp? | 15:37 |
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| apuimedo | I have to admit that I've not kept up to date recently with the summit and all | 15:38 |
| mspreitz | The spec for ingress filtering is firming up. | 15:38 |
| mspreitz | that is what that group has been working on. | 15:38 |
| mspreitz | They are now starting to turn some attention to multi-tenancy in the network | 15:38 |
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| mspreitz | I listed a lot of ways to approach it. So far it is not clear that there is much that should go into k8s for this, except probably a little generalization to allow some of the techniques. | 15:39 |
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| mspreitz | More pluggability. | 15:39 |
| mspreitz | and parameterization. | 15:39 |
| apuimedo | mspreitz: fkautz and I discussed some Docker (and by extension libnetwork) multitenancy. fkautz is trying to push it into docker | 15:39 |
| mspreitz | Where was this discussed? | 15:40 |
| apuimedo | mspreitz: in the summit work session and last week in #openstack-kuryr | 15:40 |
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| apuimedo | mspreitz: we'd like to see you in the irc more often :P | 15:40 |
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| mspreitz | I work odd hours, seems that whenever I am on IRC, nobody else is. | 15:41 |
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| mspreitz | Anyway, is that proposal written down anywhere? | 15:41 |
| apuimedo | mspreitz: you should set up an IRC bouncer like I did last week :-) | 15:41 |
| apuimedo | mspreitz: I guess fkautz will update us when it is | 15:41 |
| mspreitz | Or we should switch to Slack? | 15:41 |
| apuimedo | mspreitz: not possible for openstack projects :P | 15:42 |
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| mspreitz | then someone should tell me, offline, what an IRC bouncer is. | 15:42 |
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| apuimedo | #info: devvesa is preparing CI jobs for coverage of the kuryr-kubernetes code that we'll be able to set up when we push the code in the new repo | 15:42 |
| apuimedo | mspreitz: sure, I'll send you an email ;-) | 15:43 |
| mspreitz | thanks | 15:43 |
| apuimedo | mspreitz: please, paste here the link to your cni->libnetwork translator in the k8s repo | 15:43 |
| apuimedo | for the meeting logs | 15:43 |
| mspreitz | https://github.com/kubernetes/contrib/tree/master/cni-plugins/to_docker | 15:43 |
| apuimedo | thanks! | 15:44 |
| apuimedo | #link https://github.com/kubernetes/contrib/tree/master/cni-plugins/to_docker | 15:44 |
| mspreitz | There is a PR in progress on that, https://github.com/kubernetes/contrib/pull/845 | 15:44 |
| apuimedo | #link https://github.com/kubernetes/contrib/pull/845 | 15:44 |
| apuimedo | anything more on kubernetes from anybody? | 15:44 |
| apuimedo | mspreitz: I trust you saw my answer on the mailing about the service load balancer usage | 15:44 |
| mspreitz | Yes, thank you. | 15:45 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 15:45 |
| irenab | apuimedo: sorry I have network issues today, will have to catch up from the log | 15:45 |
| apuimedo | irenab: me too. I'm tethering right now | 15:45 |
| apuimedo | (and that after having gone to my parents for better wifi) | 15:45 |
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| apuimedo | #topic open discussion | 15:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 15:46 | |
| apuimedo | Anybody else has any other topic to bring up? | 15:46 |
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| apuimedo | #info We should consider a mid-cycle virtual sprint at some point | 15:46 |
| apuimedo | We'll update on the mailing list | 15:46 |
| apuimedo | about that | 15:46 |
| banix | Meeting time ! | 15:47 |
| banix | Do we need changing this time? | 15:47 |
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| apuimedo | also, banix, what do you think about doing the first release after we support the external connectivity (if possible) and have successfully moved to the new repo? | 15:47 |
| mspreitz | There was nobody around for last week's meeting. | 15:47 |
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| mspreitz | Does anybody know where Weave and Calico stand wrt libnetwork and external connectivity? | 15:48 |
| banix | apuimedo sounds good | 15:48 |
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| apuimedo | mspreitz: the alternate time is far too late for me to join | 15:49 |
| apuimedo | mspreitz: I think that they provide external connectivity always by default | 15:49 |
| apuimedo | but I may be wrong | 15:49 |
| mspreitz | I am not criticizing anyone, just suggesting the time may not be good. | 15:49 |
| mspreitz | I think Weave's libnetwork plugin does not provide external connectivity | 15:50 |
| mspreitz | At least, not in the normal way. They have special ways of their own. | 15:50 |
| apuimedo | mspreitz: well, it's up for the people in those time zones to propose a new time | 15:50 |
| apuimedo | I hope they do | 15:51 |
| apuimedo | and participate more, otherwise I don't see a lot of good from having the alternate meeting | 15:51 |
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| apuimedo | mspreitz: being that it's all routed I expect that they just propagate some bgp to the edge | 15:51 |
| apuimedo | but I've never really tried it | 15:52 |
| apuimedo | mspreitz: you should ask neiljerram in #openstack-kuryr channel | 15:52 |
| apuimedo | he's from kuryr | 15:52 |
| apuimedo | sorry, calico | 15:52 |
| apuimedo | any other topic? | 15:52 |
| banix | I think we can leave storage for when gal comes back? | 15:53 |
| banix | Do we have anyone from fushi here? | 15:53 |
| banix | Or magnum storage? | 15:53 |
| irenab | Can you share if there were any agreements regaridng the Newton features at the summit? I mean except for k8s | 15:54 |
| apuimedo | banix: I think we'll have to take to the mailing list about that | 15:54 |
| apuimedo | :P | 15:54 |
| banix | Sure | 15:54 |
| irenab | in case someone has etherpads of the Thursday/Friday sessions, it can be great | 15:55 |
| apuimedo | banix should have the links | 15:55 |
| apuimedo | I was lazy to open the laptop | 15:55 |
| apuimedo | :P | 15:55 |
| irenab | I wanted to ask to move the Monday meeting one hour before or after if it works for other people | 15:55 |
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| banix | Irenab please let me find and share by email | 15:56 |
| irenab | banix: thanks | 15:56 |
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| apuimedo | irenab: sounds good to me | 15:56 |
| banix | Moving either way is ok with me | 15:57 |
| apuimedo | irenab: please, start an ml thread about it | 15:57 |
| apuimedo | thanks all for joining | 15:57 |
| banix | Thx | 15:57 |
| apuimedo | have a nice and productive week! | 15:57 |
| apuimedo | #endmeeting | 15:57 |
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| irenab | thanks, bye | 15:57 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 9 15:57:30 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-05-09-15.02.html | 15:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-05-09-15.02.txt | 15:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-05-09-15.02.log.html | 15:57 |
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| Sukhdev | hey folks, time for ironic-neutron meeting | 16:01 |
| devananda | o/ | 16:01 |
| mjturek1 | o/ | 16:01 |
| hshiina | o/ | 16:01 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting ironic_neutron | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 9 16:01:26 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_neutron' | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Agenda (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:01 | |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_May_9.2C_2016 | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Announcements (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:02 | |
| Sukhdev | Anybody has anything to announce? | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | This is first meeting after the summit | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Recap of the discussions/agreements during the summit | 16:04 |
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| jroll | \o | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | I thought we spend few minutes to make sure are all on the same page as to what we discussed/concluded | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | not everybody was in every sessions | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | I had arranged a whiteboard session on Friday with critical cores from neutron to cover the two hot topics we had | 16:05 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 16:06 |
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| Sukhdev | devananda we looked for you, but, could not find you - but, sambetts mentioned that he in sync with you can could reasonably represent your position | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | on the first topic - Bonded/LAG support | 16:07 |
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| Sukhdev | our present implementation takes care of it and we felt nothing additional is needed from the neutron side | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | most of the work is in the ironic side | 16:08 |
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| Sukhdev | when a bonded port exists on ironic side, it maps to single port on neutron side | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | that is our current proposal anyways | 16:09 |
| devananda | Sukhdev: on LAG support, I had thought that we (Ironic) needed a way to signal to neutron to create / destroy the bond. sambetts pointed out that, in theory, we already have that mechanism | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | devananda : yes | 16:09 |
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| Sukhdev | our current design supports that and our ML2 drivers supports it as well | 16:10 |
| devananda | when attaching the Node to the provisioning network, Ironic should only attach the Port with the pxe_enabled flag | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | so, I think, we are good in this regard | 16:11 |
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| devananda | I have yet not checked if that is what the code actually does, though | 16:11 |
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| * devananda looks | 16:12 | |
| devananda | yep - that's exactly what it does :) | 16:12 |
| jroll | devananda: if you pass neutron a list of "switch info", the ML2 mechanism is supposed to configure the switch for bonding | 16:12 |
| jroll | yeah | 16:12 |
| devananda | so I think we're good on that side | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | cool | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | so, we are good with topic one - | 16:12 |
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| Sukhdev | lets get to the second topic (this one took a long time) - we walked through many cases to make sure we are covered | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | The trunked ports | 16:13 |
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| Sukhdev | so, neutron's trunk port spec, which is already merged and is in the middle of implementation mostly covers this support from neutron side | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | we need to make one change to that | 16:14 |
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| Sukhdev | when a sub port is added to the trunk port - it requires segmentation-id/type as a mandatory parameter - this forces some middle entity to change the tags | 16:15 |
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| Sukhdev | this works in ovs - but, in ironic case, we do not have that entity - i.e. the TOR will have to do it | 16:16 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts raised the issue that we have to design for the lowest common denominator - i.e. there may be TORs which can not do the translation | 16:17 |
| sambetts | o/ | 16:17 |
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| Sukhdev | hence, everybody agreed that if modified the neutron API not to mandate the segmentation-id/type | 16:18 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts : feel free to jump in | 16:18 |
| Sukhdev | so, what this means is | 16:18 |
| Sukhdev | if a user has a deployment with TORs which can do the translations, and they want to trunk various segmentation types (e.g. VLAN and VxLAN), they can do that | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | if the user has a plain vanila TOR that does not translate, they can still use trunk ports, in this case the segmentation-id of the network to which the sub-port is attached will be used | 16:20 |
| sambetts | and if they have set a different sub-port segmentation type then binding will fail | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | I got the approval from three cores and PTL for this change - | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : right, that would be considered mis-configuration | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : has to modify his spec to match with this understanding | 16:22 |
| sambetts | Yup :) I'll get that updating this week I hope | 16:22 |
| sambetts | updated* | 16:22 |
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| Sukhdev | any questions on this? | 16:23 |
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| sambetts | My only question is still what to do about mapping a nova boot call with 2 ports to a node with 1 phys port, and if we should create a trunk port for the user | 16:24 |
| sambetts | or if we just fail and tell them to go and make a trunk port manually themselves | 16:24 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts : it actually depends - | 16:25 |
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| Sukhdev | if we say the deployment requires operators to create the trunk ports, then yes, the call fails - | 16:25 |
| Sukhdev | but, if we say Ironic will create the trunk ports under the cover , the we accept the command | 16:26 |
| sambetts | so make it configurable? | 16:26 |
| * jroll would prefer the latter | 16:26 | |
| jroll | I'd rather not have that configurable unless there's a very good reason | 16:26 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll +1 | 16:27 |
| * sambetts would also prefer the latter | 16:27 | |
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| Sukhdev | the question then comes to mind, do we have enough information to create the trunk port automatically? | 16:28 |
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| sambetts | I think so | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | then we are golden | 16:29 |
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| sambetts | the only part missing is the subport segmentation type/ID and if the network seg == VLAN, then leave sub port segmention blank, if network seg != VLAN then set subport segmentation to VLAN, and generate the seg ids | 16:30 |
| sambetts | that covers that part as far as I can tell | 16:31 |
| sambetts | this might also get us the ability to connect baremetal to non-VLAN segmentations for free | 16:32 |
| sambetts | depending on your hardware/neutron configuration I guess | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : with the modified neutron API, sub-port segmentation-id is optional - i.e. we do not need to specify, it will automatically map to network VLAN ID | 16:33 |
| sambetts | when I say blank, I mean just don't include it, sorry :-P | 16:33 |
| Sukhdev | got it - yes, that works | 16:33 |
| sambetts | :D sweet | 16:33 |
| sambetts | I'll try to update it all this week | 16:33 |
| Sukhdev | Is everybody OK with this? | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev | I did not see any rotten tomatoes flying by :-) | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev | everybody in the room felt this was a good solution as well | 16:35 |
| sambetts | awesome :) | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | once sambetts updates the spec, lets review it and make sure we are good to go with this | 16:36 |
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| Sukhdev | If nothing else on this topic, lets march forward to the next agenda item | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Critical patches for early merge | 16:37 |
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| mlavalle | Sukhdev: do you have the url for that spec? | 16:37 |
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| Sukhdev | mlavalle : for sambetts's spec? | 16:38 |
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| sambetts | mlavalle: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277853/ | 16:38 |
| mjturek1 | +1, would like to read it | 16:38 |
| mjturek1 | thanks | 16:38 |
| mlavalle | sambetts: thanks! | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | mlavalle : welcome to this part of the world | 16:38 |
| mlavalle | Sukhdev: I just follow. I know that is where the fun is :-) | 16:39 |
| mlavalle | follow you^^^ | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | :-) | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | So, going back to the critical 4 patches | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | we had agreed to get 4 patches listed in the agenda to merge early | 16:40 |
| sambetts | jroll: we're holding back until grenade is working right? | 16:40 |
| * sambetts runs and hides | 16:40 | |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : you can run, but, not hide | 16:41 |
| sambetts | haha | 16:41 |
| jroll | sambetts: yes, I'd rather not land this without upgrade testing | 16:42 |
| jroll | sambetts: I'm not 100% against landing it, maybe 90% | 16:42 |
| jroll | but that was what we talked about, yes | 16:42 |
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| devananda | FWIW, my test cluster hit a snag (unrelated) last week. Getting that running again so I can test the network integration on a couple racks is still on my priority list | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | many customers are ready to test this feature - managing too many patches is kinda hard | 16:44 |
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| devananda | Sukhdev: isn't there already an experimental CI job that tests this? | 16:45 |
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| devananda | yes - https://review.openstack.org/269157 | 16:45 |
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| devananda | doesn't look up to date, though | 16:45 |
| jroll | yeah, looks like it needs a rebase | 16:46 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll : so, can we come up a plan which will help us get these critical patches merged? | 16:47 |
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| devananda | sukhdev: for one, that patch chain should get updated / rebased. it's about a month stale at this point, and failed the last test runs | 16:48 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: I've asked people to review them, they seem to be kind of on-and-off on it | 16:48 |
| jroll | things that might get them more confident in the changes | 16:48 |
| jroll | 1) upgrade testing running against it | 16:48 |
| devananda | I also agree with jroll on our need for a grenade job (upgrade testing) because this is making some major changes to networks | 16:49 |
| jroll | 2) smaller, incremental changes | 16:49 |
| jroll | 3) updating the patches to pass CI, like deva mentioned | 16:49 |
| devananda | in my testing, I already found out that the patches immediately broke my environment when applied | 16:49 |
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| devananda | because of a change to CONF defaults | 16:49 |
| jroll | yay! | 16:49 |
| devananda | yea... | 16:49 |
| sambetts | I've left a comment in the network drivers migration covering one of those issues | 16:49 |
| Sukhdev | hmm.. I see | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | time to chase some folks then | 16:51 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll : can you elaborate on 2) on your list - do you want these patches to be further broken down? | 16:52 |
| sambetts | I'm also very interested in how the dhcp_provider thing should be handled, because IMO there are some problems if we can set network driver per node but the dhcp_provider is a global thing, if I have 1 node with a None network driver and 1 with a neutron network driver, and set dhcp_provider to Neutron, then it'll likely blow up in PXEBoot prepare ramdisk for the None node when it tries to | 16:53 |
| sambetts | configure a neutron port for dhcp and there isn't one | 16:53 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: it's always easier to review a smaller patch. you'll get more core reviewers with many small patches, rather than one large patch | 16:53 |
| devananda | some of the patches are very hard to review -- eg, https://review.openstack.org/285852 is ~2000 lines | 16:53 |
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| devananda | sambetts: good question :( | 16:54 |
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| * sambetts also thinks that there are some patches in that chain that can be broken out of the chain, like the devstack hwinfo one, because its cool to have regardless of the networking patches | 16:55 | |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts and I spoke about the dhcp options issue on Friday during summit | 16:56 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts : can you send me the links to the work that you had mentioned | 16:57 |
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| sambetts | can you remind me what I mentioned :/ | 16:57 |
| jroll | heh | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : ha ha :-) lets take off line after this meeting - we are down to 2 min | 16:58 |
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| sambetts | Sukhdev: thanks my Brain is still decompressing from the summit | 16:58 |
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| Sukhdev | hshiina : are you here ? | 16:59 |
| hshiina | yes | 16:59 |
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| Sukhdev | hshiina : you had added a topic to the agenda - we could not get to it | 16:59 |
| hshiina | no problem | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | we are out of time - do you mind if we bring this up in next meeting? | 16:59 |
| hshiina | ironic patches should be merged before nova's | 16:59 |
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| hshiina | i see | 17:00 |
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| Sukhdev | Folks, we are out of time - | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | thanks for attending | 17:00 |
| sambetts | o/ | 17:00 |
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| mjturek1 | thanks! | 17:00 |
| hshiina | thanks | 17:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 17:00 |
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| Sukhdev | bye | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 9 17:01:12 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-05-09-16.01.html | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-05-09-16.01.txt | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-05-09-16.01.log.html | 17:01 |
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| Sukhdev | Folks, time for L2GW meeting | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | who is here to attend L2GW meeting | 17:01 |
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| tonyb | #startmeeting stable | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 9 21:00:41 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'stable' | 21:00 |
| bknudson | hi | 21:00 |
| Daviey | o/ | 21:00 |
| tonyb | who's heer for the stable meeting? | 21:00 |
| tonyb | Hey bknudson, Daviey | 21:01 |
| bknudson | I'm as heer as I'll ever by | 21:01 |
| bknudson | be | 21:01 |
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| mriedem | o/ | 21:01 |
| tonyb | mtreinish: are you around? | 21:01 |
| tonyb | #topic Status | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:02 | |
| tonyb | To be frank I've been traveling since summit so I don't really know if there is anything here | 21:02 |
| Daviey | stable/kilo 2015.1.4 point release? | 21:02 |
| mriedem | i haven't seen anything | 21:02 |
| tonyb | I know there was a minor issue with nova but I think that fixed now anything else? | 21:02 |
| mtreinish | tonyb: yes I am | 21:02 |
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| mriedem | nova docs job was busted, it's fixed now | 21:03 |
| bknudson | There are a couple failures to stable-maint | 21:03 |
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| tonyb | Daviey: we'll talk about the kilo stuff next. | 21:04 |
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| tonyb | So pretty mush normal then, stuff breaks and gets fixed :) | 21:04 |
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| tonyb | #topic Action items from previous meeting | 21:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from previous meeting (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:05 | |
| tonyb | tonyb to get an EOL date for stable/mitaka | 21:05 |
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| mtreinish | tonyb: so did you get an EOL date for stable/mitaka? | 21:06 |
| tonyb | I'll do that today, dhellmann has a nice patch to tidfy up the releases site so I'll base it on his work | 21:06 |
| tonyb | mtreinish: at the summit we decided I could pick one that was basically 6months aftyer liberty and do any discussion on the review | 21:07 |
| tonyb | mtreinish: so it'll be early May ish | 21:07 |
| mriedem | do we know the dates for the boston summit? looks like the EOL date mostly falls after the summit | 21:07 |
| bknudson | design summit? | 21:08 |
| tonyb | mriedem: they were announced but I don't have them to hand I'll look for them | 21:08 |
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| Daviey | I've only seen Barcelona date | 21:08 |
| tonyb | Boston is the first of the PTG/Summit splits | 21:08 |
| tonyb | so the PTG will be in Feb/March and the Summit in May | 21:08 |
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| tonyb | Daviey: they were on the keynote slides when the venues were announed | 21:09 |
| * tonyb didn't get a photo | 21:09 | |
| tonyb | next item ... Daviey to freeze stable/kilo this week and plan for the final release | 21:10 |
| mriedem | http://boston.eventful.com/events/openstack-foundation-summit-2017-/E0-001-093058337-1 ? | 21:10 |
| tonyb | Daviey: how's that going do you need help? | 21:10 |
| Daviey | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg5m8twUcAAFeEL.jpg May 2017 | 21:10 |
| Daviey | Bostin ^ | 21:10 |
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| Daviey | 8th | 21:10 |
| mriedem | yeah | 21:11 |
| mriedem | 2nd week of may | 21:11 |
| Daviey | tonyb: I'm all set, but blocked on 2 neutron reviews | 21:11 |
| mriedem | so EOL mitaka 3rd week of may | 21:11 |
| Daviey | One was raised as a freeze exception | 21:11 |
| tonyb | mriedem: sounds fair | 21:11 |
| Daviey | and the other just flagged | 21:11 |
| mtreinish | Daviey: do you have links? | 21:11 |
| tonyb | Daviey: which 2? | 21:11 |
| Daviey | I'm not getting any love from neutron-core | 21:11 |
| mtreinish | Daviey: let's bother armax :) | 21:11 |
| Daviey | Being the 11th hour, and not a clean backport, i'm reluctant | 21:11 |
| Daviey | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299028/ (just raised) | 21:12 |
| armax | I am all ears | 21:12 |
| Daviey | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309653/ , raised properly days ago | 21:12 |
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| tonyb | hey armax :) | 21:13 |
| mriedem | on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299028/ ihar is +2 and it's from a neutron core, however, the liberty and mitaka changes aren't merged | 21:13 |
| Daviey | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/094367.html | 21:13 |
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| mriedem | although on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299028/ | 21:13 |
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| mriedem | there is an advisory associated with it | 21:14 |
| mriedem | i'd say no to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309653/ it's not a security issue | 21:14 |
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| Daviey | Both seem logical to include.. although https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309653/ isn't sec' | 21:14 |
| tonyb | Tristan is on VMT so I suspect that his "shoudlne't this get an FFE" is related to the advisory .... | 21:15 |
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| mriedem | yeah, let's drop the latter | 21:15 |
| mriedem | we should probably try and get the former in | 21:15 |
| mriedem | given VMT | 21:15 |
| Daviey | ok, dropping | 21:15 |
| * tonyb agrees | 21:15 | |
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| armax | so would the last one standing be https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309653/ alone? | 21:15 |
| mriedem | i've abandoned https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309653/ | 21:15 |
| tonyb | armax: what can we do to land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299028/ | 21:15 |
| mriedem | armax: no we just dropped that | 21:15 |
| armax | mriedem: ok | 21:16 |
| bknudson | comment 29 in https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1558658 -- "It should be relatively quick since the patch is already prepared with tests." | 21:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1558658 in OpenStack Security Advisory "Security Groups do not prevent MAC and/or IPv4 spoofing in DHCP requests" [Undecided,Triaged] | 21:16 |
| Daviey | mriedem: YOU BEAT ME | 21:16 |
| mriedem | i've restored https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299028/ | 21:16 |
| bknudson | I was wondering why the bug was public already | 21:16 |
| armax | that one merged recently in Newton | 21:16 |
| armax | and without some serious mileage in I was hesitant to backport it | 21:16 |
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| armax | to Mitaka, let alone Liberty and Kilo | 21:17 |
| tonyb | armax: okay can you quickly eyeball the backports and then we'll work on merging them all today | 21:17 |
| tonyb | Hmmm okay | 21:17 |
| Daviey | realistically, i'm not going to get it finished today - as I am on UK time. | 21:17 |
| mriedem | you have to budget for biscuits and clotted cream | 21:18 |
| tonyb | Daviey: okay, No pressure. Thanks for pushing this since summit | 21:18 |
| armax | how much time is there left for making a decision? | 21:18 |
| Daviey | armax: I'd like t try and get it done for EOD tomorrow? | 21:19 |
| tonyb | Daviey: so +24hours? | 21:19 |
| Daviey | BTW, here are the current commit hash references and commit count for each project - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314189/ | 21:19 |
| Daviey | tonyb: 22 hours would be kinder | 21:19 |
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| tonyb | Daviey: cool. | 21:20 |
| armax | Daviey: if we let it in and then something bad happens we’ll have a broken Kilo without any way of fixing it again | 21:20 |
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| * tonyb is bad with clocks and calendars :) | 21:20 | |
| Daviey | Tomorrow isn't a hard and fast deadline... | 21:20 |
| armax | but I guess I am not saying anything new | 21:20 |
| Daviey | ... but distros may be syncing their work schedule to the release.. so it sucks for us to be leate | 21:20 |
| bknudson | the keystone changes are as boring as it gets | 21:20 |
| Daviey | late* | 21:20 |
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| armax | if you guys abandoned https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299027/ then the OVS one should be abandoned too | 21:21 |
| Daviey | armax: Can you ping me with the likelihood of it getting done tomorrow? | 21:21 |
| bknudson | I'd suggest skipping the keystone release. Can't imagine anybody's waiting on those. | 21:21 |
| armax | so it’s both https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299027/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299028/ or none | 21:22 |
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| mriedem | armax: good point | 21:22 |
| mriedem | i've restored that first one | 21:23 |
| Daviey | bknudson: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/commit/7c7f5210a0515b29ab569606ee33e87d25f1dc62 is the only meaningful commit.. but that is tests rather than changes | 21:23 |
| armax | mriedem: ack | 21:23 |
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| mriedem | but again, liberty and mitaka aren't merged yet https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I39dc0e23fc118ede19ef2d986b29fc5a8e48ff78,n,z | 21:23 |
| armax | mriedem: thanks | 21:23 |
| armax | mriedem: I think the team has to agree whether we’re risk adverse or risk takers :) | 21:23 |
| * mriedem is just glad this isn't nova | 21:23 | |
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| tonyb | mriedem: +1 | 21:24 |
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| armax | let me talk to kevin again, to see if there’s some stone left unturned | 21:24 |
| armax | we’ll make a decision by tonighit PST | 21:24 |
| armax | tonight | 21:24 |
| armax | whether the kilo fix is in or out | 21:24 |
| mriedem | would be good to at least recreate the failures on these branches and verify the fix before landing them | 21:24 |
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| mriedem | i'm not sure how easy that is though | 21:24 |
| armax | for mitaka and liberty we’ll probably be a little more lax | 21:25 |
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| Daviey | Remember people do deploy from branch :) | 21:25 |
| armax | mriedem: the changes are covered by functional tests, so that at least is good | 21:25 |
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| tonyb | okay so if I understand correctly .... | 21:26 |
| armax | leave it with me, I’ll post comments by the end of today on both https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299027/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299028/ | 21:26 |
| Daviey | armax is on point to review those 2 changes and get back to me? | 21:27 |
| tonyb | armax: will work with keven do decide on the fate of the 2 reviews in question in the next few hours | 21:27 |
| armax | which I believe these are the outstanding kilo backports | 21:27 |
| armax | Daviey: yes | 21:27 |
| Daviey | Yep. just neutron blocking 2015.1.4 | 21:27 |
| tonyb | if they're goign in I can help +w them into the gate so that when Daviey is up and running (his) tomorrow he has a clear path | 21:27 |
| tonyb | does that sound right? | 21:27 |
| armax | Daviey: the feeback will happen in a form or +2 or -1 | 21:27 |
| armax | :) | 21:27 |
| armax | Daviey: if you want | 21:28 |
| Daviey | Release notes are done, reviews welcome - wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/2015.1.4 | 21:28 |
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| armax | Daviey: you can lift your -2 and I’ll add mine right now and if we decide to go ahead we’ll get them in the merge queue while you’re asleep | 21:28 |
| Daviey | armax: sounds perfect | 21:28 |
| armax | Daviey: up to you | 21:28 |
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| Daviey | -2's removed | 21:29 |
| tonyb | okay so we have a plan | 21:29 |
| tonyb | Daviey, armax: Thanks! | 21:29 |
| tonyb | #topic Release news | 21:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release news (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:30 | |
| tonyb | neutron 8.1.0 went out last night | 21:30 |
| tonyb | I need to see if anythingthing else needs a release ... | 21:31 |
| tonyb | anything else? .. we clearly covered Kilo :) | 21:32 |
| Daviey | oh | 21:32 |
| Daviey | Kilo will also be EOL... so never again do we need to flog this. | 21:32 |
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| tonyb | Daviey: corerct. | 21:33 |
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| tonyb | Daviey: I know I'm new to the scene but I wont be sad when the last coordinated release is done :) | 21:33 |
| tonyb | #topic Tagging | 21:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tagging (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:34 | |
| Daviey | +1.. but in other news... my co-orindated release scripts are perfect now. | 21:34 |
| tonyb | Daviey: :D | 21:34 |
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| tonyb | We have 3 requests for stable:follows-policy | 21:34 |
| tonyb | Ironic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310288 | 21:34 |
| tonyb | TrippleO https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308236/ | 21:34 |
| tonyb | Murano https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312572/ | 21:35 |
| mriedem | i'm only familiar with ironic for stable | 21:35 |
| mriedem | but lean to +1 on that | 21:35 |
| tonyb | They're blocking otehr things so any help/context there would be great | 21:35 |
| mriedem | for murano i at least checked they run the periodic stable unit test jobs | 21:35 |
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| mtreinish | yeah, I was gonna say I don't think I've ever seen anything stable from tripleo or murano before either | 21:35 |
| mriedem | i have no idea about tripleo | 21:35 |
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| tonyb | mriedem: Yeah I'm in the same boat, they seem like odd requests to me :/ | 21:36 |
| bknudson | super stable. | 21:36 |
| Daviey | I looked briefly at the commit history of Tripleo... looked reasonably mature | 21:36 |
| tonyb | Daviey: I'm worried about the "we backport features" side of trippleo | 21:36 |
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| mtreinish | tonyb: do they say that? if so -1 on that tag | 21:37 |
| * dhellmann slips in the back late | 21:37 | |
| tonyb | Daviey: I know they've switched views recently I need to revisit those m/l threads | 21:37 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: welcome back, we only said nice things about you :) | 21:37 |
| tonyb | mtreinish: like I sdia they've switched views recently | 21:38 |
| dhellmann | tonyb : don't worry, I read the scrollback ;-) | 21:38 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: :) | 21:38 |
| dhellmann | if you think it's unusual, it seems reasonable to ask them to wait and for you to observe for a while before adding those tags | 21:39 |
| Daviey | tonyb: is it worth considering SOME of the subprojects for inclusion first, so we can watch it a bit closer? | 21:39 |
| tonyb | so my view on the tage is that *all* stable/* branches stick with the policy so it $project is good for mitaka but was less strict oin liberty my gut says to -1 the tag request until liberty has EOLd | 21:39 |
| dhellmann | that's also fair, as long as it's documented in the tag description | 21:40 |
| Daviey | it's a shame to punish a project for the life of an existing release | 21:40 |
| * tonyb will check but I think it's unclear, so perhaps it needs to be tighter | 21:40 | |
| dhellmann | we've also discussed, casually, the need to have tags with a "since" value attached | 21:41 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: stable:follows-policy>liberty :p | 21:41 |
| dhellmann | yeah, either separate tags or a sub-field | 21:41 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: Yeah that'd work. | 21:41 |
| mriedem | oy | 21:42 |
| dhellmann | sub-fields will make some of the tools that are using that repo break (like release tools), though | 21:42 |
| bknudson | this ironic change is surprising for stable: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287134/ | 21:42 |
| dhellmann | maybe stable:follows-policy-1, -2, -3 for "n releases back"? | 21:42 |
| Daviey | dhellmann: how does that follow future releases? | 21:42 |
| mriedem | bknudson: note that jroll -1ed it | 21:42 |
| dhellmann | Daviey : good question, I'm thinking out loud and that doesn't always work well | 21:43 |
| dhellmann | Daviey : I'd hate to see us encoding series names in the tags | 21:43 |
| Daviey | dhellmann: yeah, the numeric number would be outdated in release+1 | 21:43 |
| mriedem | ttx, flaper87 and i discussed this in the review where the tag was proposed, | 21:44 |
| dhellmann | although names might be more future proof | 21:44 |
| mriedem | so would need to go back and read up on what we decided there | 21:44 |
| mriedem | but i think we basically said you're all in or you're not | 21:44 |
| mriedem | until the things that aren't in policy are EOL | 21:44 |
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| jroll | fwiw, I waited til we got our stuff together to propose this for ironic | 21:45 |
| dhellmann | so it might take them 3 cycles to get tag approval, even if series 2 follows the policy? | 21:45 |
| mriedem | tags getting uber complicated to workaround people doing the wrong things but wanting the shiny gold start seems wrong | 21:45 |
| dhellmann | yeah, that's fair | 21:45 |
| mriedem | dhellmann: they can drop the oldest branch | 21:45 |
| jroll | because kilo was a mess for a while, I think it's happy now, our policy decisions have been decent afaik | 21:45 |
| mriedem | i just, i mean, gd, drop the hammer! | 21:45 |
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| mriedem | anyway, shall we bikeshed in the reviews themselves? | 21:45 |
| * mriedem has to leave soonish | 21:46 | |
| dhellmann | yeah, it might be better to say all-or-nothing and reevaluate after kilo is eol | 21:46 |
| tonyb | okay so there is work to do here | 21:46 |
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| Daviey | mriedem: early removal of a release to get tag compliance feels like totally the wrong reasons | 21:46 |
| tonyb | We'll do it on the reviews and/or the m/l | 21:46 |
| tonyb | #topic Stuck Reviews | 21:46 |
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| tonyb | anything that isn't on the agenda? | 21:47 |
| mriedem | nada | 21:47 |
| tonyb | \o/ | 21:47 |
| tonyb | #topic Tooling | 21:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tooling (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:47 | |
| dhellmann | I just want to drop a gentle reminder that the release team waits for folks on the stable team to look at stable releases before we cut them | 21:47 |
| mriedem | Daviey: honestly i'd like to see in the user survey them ask if anyone is making decisions based on tags | 21:47 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: thanks. | 21:47 |
| dhellmann | there hasn't been a problem with that, so that's just a reminder | 21:47 |
| Daviey | mriedem: I doubt they are.. but yes, evidence is good. :) | 21:47 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: I know I'm behind, I was traveling last week :( | 21:48 |
| mriedem | i'll have my friendly tc rep mtreinish follow up on the user survey part | 21:48 |
| dhellmann | tonyb : meh, no one has any expectations of getting things done the week after summit, don't worry | 21:48 |
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| mriedem | end early? | 21:49 |
| mriedem | please | 21:49 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: sry, I stopped paying attention. You didn't sign me up for anything did you? | 21:49 |
| tonyb | Ihar and I have WiP stuff in release tools to simplify stable tasks | 21:49 |
| jroll | mriedem: no, only because you asked | 21:49 |
| tonyb | #topic open discussion | 21:49 |
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| Daviey | tonyb: Any chance of a README? | 21:49 |
| tonyb | Daviey: where? on the new tools? | 21:50 |
| Daviey | tonyb: yah | 21:50 |
| tonyb | Daviey: sure that can be done :) | 21:50 |
| Daviey | ta | 21:50 |
| tonyb | so we can get out of here ..... | 21:50 |
| tonyb | meeting times | 21:50 |
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| tonyb | mriedem_afk: who has now left so can't defend himself has been running the alternate meetings I'd like to let him off the hook so expect a change in the meeting times | 21:51 |
| Daviey | Did i see on the agenda a different channel (#o-m-3) for next one? | 21:51 |
| tonyb | I'll call for ideas on the m/l | 21:51 |
| mtreinish | oh, I have 1 thing. The tempest kilo removal patch just landed. I kinda jumped the gun on it (I didn't expect it to merge so quickly) | 21:51 |
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| mtreinish | so we've stopped running kilo on proposed tempest changes, so it'll be good to get the release out the door before too long :) | 21:52 |
| tonyb | mtreinish: okay cool. | 21:52 |
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| tonyb | okay I think we're done here .... | 21:53 |
| Daviey | Can i go to bed now? | 21:53 |
| tonyb | anything else? | 21:53 |
| tonyb | Daviey: yes. Thanks for stayign up! | 21:53 |
| tonyb | Thanks everyone | 21:53 |
| tonyb | #endmeeting | 21:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:53 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 9 21:53:55 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-05-09-21.00.html | 21:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-05-09-21.00.txt | 21:53 |
| Daviey | thanks tonyb | 21:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-05-09-21.00.log.html | 21:54 |
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