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tonyb | sdake: that'll be decided at the Austin summit | 00:00 |
rhallisey | ok let's flow over to openstack-kolla | 00:00 |
sdake | ya les end meeting and overflow in openstack-kolla | 00:00 |
* tonyb moves | 00:00 | |
rhallisey | thanks guys | 00:00 |
rhallisey | #endmeeting kolla | 00:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 00:00 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 14 00:00:41 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-04-13-23.01.html | 00:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-04-13-23.01.txt | 00:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-04-13-23.01.log.html | 00:00 |
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jokke_ | #startmeeting glance | 13:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 14 13:02:28 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jokke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 13:02 |
jokke_ | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k | 13:02 |
jokke_ | Courtesy meeting reminder: Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, bunting | 13:02 |
jokke_ | Courtesy meeting reminder: dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat | 13:02 |
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jokke_ | #topic agenda | 13:03 |
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jokke_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 13:03 |
jokke_ | #endmeeting too early | 13:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 13:03 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 14 13:03:36 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:03 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-04-14-13.02.html | 13:03 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-04-14-13.02.txt | 13:03 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-04-14-13.02.log.html | 13:03 |
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nikhil | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k | 13:59 |
nikhil | Courtesy meeting reminder: Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting | 13:59 |
nikhil | Courtesy meeting reminder: dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat | 13:59 |
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jokke_ | Yayyy! | 13:59 |
jokke_ | o/ | 13:59 |
nikhil | roll call | 13:59 |
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nikhil | hi jokke_ | 14:00 |
mfedosin | o/ | 14:00 |
rosmaita | o/ | 14:00 |
mclaren | o/ | 14:00 |
bunting | o/ | 14:00 |
dshakhray | o/ | 14:00 |
nikhil | you seem excited about meetings? | 14:00 |
nikhil | :) | 14:00 |
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abhishek | o/ | 14:00 |
rosmaita | jokke_ has been here for an hour | 14:00 |
jokke_ | rosmaita: I'm always here | 14:00 |
nikhil | I think he loves mtgs | 14:00 |
nikhil | let's get started | 14:00 |
nikhil | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 14 14:00:40 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
nikhil | #topic agenda | 14:00 |
jokke_ | specially the ones that has coffee and buns | 14:00 |
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nikhil | :) | 14:00 |
nikhil | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
hemanthm | o/ | 14:00 |
flaper87 | o/ | 14:01 |
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nikhil | Looks like the agenda filled up pretty recently | 14:01 |
rosmaita | o/ | 14:01 |
nikhil | we should need the full hour more or less | 14:01 |
nikhil | #topic Update from other teams | 14:01 |
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nikhil | #info Glare updates ( mfedosin ) | 14:01 |
mfedosin | hello! | 14:01 |
mfedosin | no big changes during last week | 14:02 |
mfedosin | we stabilize our code and preparing to a big demo | 14:02 |
mfedosin | kairat added tooz support to prevent race conditions | 14:02 |
nikhil | that's great news! | 14:02 |
mfedosin | dshakhray implemented filtering and sorting support for artifacts | 14:03 |
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mfedosin | all desired features are imlemented so I'm going to concentrate on the spec next week | 14:03 |
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nikhil | kudos | 14:03 |
nikhil | Thanks mfedosin | 14:04 |
mfedosin | welcome :) | 14:04 |
nikhil | moving on | 14:04 |
nikhil | #info Nova v1 v2 | 14:04 |
nikhil | mfedosin: that's mostly you | 14:04 |
mfedosin | I updated the spec | 14:04 |
mfedosin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301741/4 | 14:05 |
mfedosin | I think it's ready to merge | 14:05 |
nikhil | :) | 14:05 |
mfedosin | also I fixed race conditions in commits and waiting John to remove -2 | 14:05 |
mfedosin | not race conditions, sorry | 14:06 |
mfedosin | merge conflicts | 14:06 |
nikhil | ok | 14:06 |
nikhil | headsup: I read some of the latest comments from matt and sean on ML that indicate we need to sync and decide on glanceclient scope for this spec | 14:06 |
nikhil | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/092153.html | 14:07 |
mfedosin | nikhil: may I ask you about summit session? | 14:07 |
nikhil | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/092158.html | 14:07 |
nikhil | mfedosin: sure | 14:07 |
mfedosin | it will be combined with Nova team, right? | 14:07 |
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nikhil | it's officially nova session that is tagged for glance too | 14:07 |
mfedosin | when will it be? | 14:08 |
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mfedosin | do you remember? | 14:08 |
nikhil | so, we can expect turn-out from both teams | 14:08 |
nikhil | all glance tagged sessions are here: | 14:08 |
nikhil | #info glance tagged summit sessions https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=glance | 14:08 |
nikhil | #info nova session with glance on image v2 https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9083?goback=1 | 14:08 |
nikhil | anything else? | 14:09 |
mfedosin | no, thanks :) | 14:09 |
nikhil | yw | 14:09 |
nikhil | #info cross-project updates | 14:10 |
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nikhil | there was no meeting and nothing raised this week | 14:10 |
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nikhil | as usual, do visit the community blog post | 14:10 |
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nikhil | the cross project session list is up in schedule | 14:10 |
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nikhil | I have requested a few signups for cross project session attendees here: | 14:11 |
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nikhil | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-glance-summit-planning | 14:11 |
nikhil | line 345 onwards | 14:11 |
nikhil | basically we should try to cover as many sessions as possible as a team | 14:11 |
nikhil | for someone signed up on two sessions at the same time, please add your name instead if you are free then | 14:12 |
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nikhil | I wanted to correct some information that I provided during the sync | 14:12 |
nikhil | tuesday full day design summit is CP but there are still main summit tracks that run parallel to this | 14:13 |
nikhil | so in case you _do_ have signed up for a session, you can re-think about your priority towards main summit session too if that's relevant | 14:13 |
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nikhil | another note: all sessions marked as in the etherpad (**) are important for us | 14:14 |
nikhil | that's it | 14:14 |
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nikhil | #topic announcements | 14:14 |
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nikhil | wanted to get a quick poll on the next two meetings | 14:14 |
nikhil | #startvote have the meeting on april 21 (next week)? yes, no, maybe | 14:15 |
openstack | Begin voting on: have the meeting on april 21 (next week)? Valid vote options are yes, no, maybe. | 14:15 |
openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 14:15 |
nikhil | I will take no answer as "NO" (as I don't have agenda) | 14:15 |
nikhil | #vote no | 14:15 |
nikhil | counting 1 | 14:16 |
nikhil | counting 2 | 14:16 |
hemanthm | #vote no | 14:16 |
avarner | #vote maybe | 14:16 |
mclaren | #vote maybe | 14:16 |
rosmaita | #vote maybe | 14:16 |
abhishek | #vote maybe | 14:16 |
rosmaita | mclaren: maybe we can have import meeting in this timeslot if no reg meeting | 14:16 |
nikhil | #endvote | 14:16 |
jokke_ | #vote yes | 14:16 |
openstack | Voted on "have the meeting on april 21 (next week)?" Results are | 14:17 |
openstack | maybe (4): avarner, abhishek, mclaren, rosmaita | 14:17 |
openstack | no (2): hemanthm, nikhil | 14:17 |
mclaren | rosmaita: fine by me | 14:17 |
nikhil | ok, we will see | 14:17 |
nikhil | I will update on wednesday if agenda is updated or not | 14:17 |
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nikhil | #info We won't have the weekly meeting during summit ie on April 28th | 14:17 |
nikhil | Thanks for your input | 14:18 |
nikhil | moving on | 14:18 |
nikhil | #topic descriptions of the summit sessions | 14:18 |
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nikhil | firstly, find the list of all glance sessions: | 14:18 |
nikhil | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Glance%3A | 14:19 |
nikhil | #info the above list refers to design summit Glance sessions | 14:19 |
nikhil | and that query doesn't show sessions tagged by other teams | 14:20 |
nikhil | also, we need to update the descriptions of the Fishbowl sessions specifically | 14:20 |
nikhil | I took the liberty to copy over data from the summit planning etherpad and modified a little bit (mostly grammar) | 14:20 |
nikhil | I need input from you so that the sessions cover the following items in the description (copying from my email): | 14:21 |
nikhil | what's the problem it's trying to solve | 14:21 |
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nikhil | what's currently out there | 14:21 |
nikhil | what are best practices, feedback and experiences from cross-prj or other teams | 14:21 |
nikhil | what is the scope of the current proposal or are you posing questions via. this topic | 14:21 |
nikhil | what has been discussed, what are/were the blockers and any other reference information | 14:22 |
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nikhil | We need a good chunk of that info up in the descriptions so that people know what they are about | 14:22 |
nikhil | Although, this rule also applies to work sessions, I am insisting on FB ones first | 14:22 |
nikhil | if I don't get input, I will take the liberty to update them myself as per my perspective | 14:23 |
nikhil | questions? | 14:23 |
rosmaita | timeframe for completion? | 14:23 |
nikhil | the cut off time from summit planners is EOW (this week) | 14:23 |
nikhil | so, any time by 7pm ET tomorrow should work | 14:24 |
rosmaita | thanks | 14:24 |
nikhil | moving on | 14:24 |
nikhil | #topic Mid-cycle | 14:24 |
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nikhil | I've announced this on the ML, just bringing it here so that it's not lost in your inbox. I noticed that a few people missed my ML updates. | 14:25 |
nikhil | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/092009.html | 14:25 |
rosmaita | could we maybe get a list of people who are interested in remote attendance? | 14:26 |
nikhil | The etherpad (wiki) is in the email. Please start planning your travel as soon as possible. I know it's a bit hectic period, close to summit, but after the summit may delay things. | 14:26 |
rosmaita | (it suddenly looks like i will be one of those people) | 14:26 |
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nikhil | rosmaita: sure, please feel free to create a section for remote attendance or add remote, maybe remote, etc. tags against your RSVP name on the etherpad | 14:27 |
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nikhil | #action all: please RSVP your confirm or tentative plans for the mid-cycle on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-glance-midcycle-meetup . It would be good to get a list of remote attendance. | 14:28 |
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nikhil | questions? | 14:28 |
nikhil | moving on | 14:29 |
nikhil | #topic Provide a list of request ids to the caller (abhishekk) | 14:29 |
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abhishek | hi, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-glanceclient/+spec/return-request-id-to-caller was accepted for mitaka and needs to be changed to newton | 14:29 |
abhishek | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261288/ is up for quite long time, needs review | 14:29 |
jokke_ | abhishek: have you proposed change for that move in the specs repo? | 14:30 |
jokke_ | or someone else? | 14:30 |
abhishek | jokke_: specs was not submitted for this as it is approved in cross-project specs | 14:30 |
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abhishek | then as per your suggestion, I have created a specs-lite last time | 14:31 |
jokke_ | oh cool | 14:31 |
abhishek | jokke_: please refer, https://launchpad.net/bugs/1525259 | 14:32 |
openstack | abhishek: Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1525259 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1525259). The error has been logged | 14:32 |
jokke_ | just something we can track off so if there is spec lite (as in wishlist bug) we're tracking it | 14:32 |
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nikhil | abhishek: oh nice, might be a good idea to quickly link that lite spec with the bp (as a URL for specification) | 14:32 |
jokke_ | abhishek: as we agreed, there is no need to transfer that to the new lite-spec format for this cycle | 14:32 |
abhishek | nikhil: i will do that | 14:33 |
nikhil | thanks for bringing this up abhishek! | 14:33 |
abhishek | jokke_: ok | 14:33 |
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abhishek | thank you, thats it from my side | 14:33 |
nikhil | I will talk about reviews and review day in the later in the meeting (impromptu addition) | 14:33 |
* jokke_ really needs to fix the lite-spec documentation | 14:33 | |
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nikhil | we need to talk about that, prolly during contri meetup last session | 14:34 |
nikhil | anyway, let's give enough time for import :) | 14:34 |
nikhil | moving on | 14:34 |
nikhil | #topic Notes on image import implementation tactics (mclaren) | 14:34 |
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nikhil | mclaren: thanks for the link | 14:35 |
nikhil | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-image-import-implementation-tactics | 14:35 |
mclaren | Sure | 14:35 |
nikhil | firstly, how is this different from what we want to discuss at the summit | 14:35 |
mclaren | This is just a bit of a brain dump really | 14:35 |
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nikhil | ah I see, thanks | 14:35 |
mclaren | But having thought it through it does look like we can avoid some complex stuff | 14:36 |
rosmaita | i think it's a good clarification | 14:36 |
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mclaren | eg having to store two image blobs at once | 14:36 |
mclaren | I'd be interested if folks wanted to read through and see if they generally agreed/spotted any holes | 14:37 |
mclaren | (eg drop me a mail) | 14:37 |
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nikhil | mclaren: I think all are browsing through it atm | 14:38 |
rosmaita | oops, i already started putting comments right on the etherpad | 14:38 |
mclaren | oh yeah, that works too! | 14:38 |
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nikhil | mclaren: It's pretty detailed and explicitly written. Only have my love for it atm! | 14:38 |
nikhil | in fact, I was planning to start some tiny discussions around this | 14:39 |
nikhil | may be we go ahead and start defining (formally in a spec) what we want to target for newton | 14:39 |
mclaren | Thanks. If we really can punt on some of the complex stuff it does make getting something that 'works' sooner possible | 14:40 |
nikhil | agreed. | 14:40 |
mclaren | I'll check for feedback on the ether pad later. Thanks, that's all I had. | 14:41 |
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nikhil | looks like a excellent plan | 14:41 |
nikhil | in the meanwhile: I will try to gauge interest, internal commitments, preferences, etc. and plan a timeline around this | 14:42 |
nikhil | And then use the plan your poise along with developer/reviewer time to sketch out the remnanats | 14:43 |
rosmaita | jokke_: is that you putting comments in purple? | 14:43 |
jokke_ | rosmaita: yup | 14:44 |
nikhil | rosmaita: I had a feeling that defcore would be lenient on the timeline and not need 3 cycles? | 14:44 |
rosmaita | well, i'm not sure the timeline is really the issue | 14:44 |
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rosmaita | as far as defcore is concerned, they would like glance to have a single API for end-users to get images into the cloud | 14:45 |
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rosmaita | the API can be "flexible" as outlined on the spec | 14:45 |
rosmaita | but we need to hit the widest use cases first, as stuart says | 14:45 |
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nikhil | widest == most popular ? | 14:46 |
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mclaren | not that it matters, but I wasn't really thinking about widest use cases, more minimally scoped code. | 14:46 |
rosmaita | i guess so, measured in number of clouds, not number of users | 14:46 |
nikhil | I see | 14:46 |
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nikhil | thanks rosmaita | 14:46 |
rosmaita | mclaren: i'm thinking of the point you made in the pre-summit conference aobut even a physics dept cloud should use image import, not direct upload | 14:47 |
rosmaita | even though all users are smart and trusted | 14:47 |
rosmaita | that way, it's same interface across all clouds | 14:47 |
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mclaren | sure | 14:47 |
rosmaita | so to make that happen, i think we need to go with stuart's plan for glance-direct first implementation | 14:47 |
rosmaita | (much as i'd rather do the swift-based one) | 14:48 |
mclaren | rosmaita: then we aim for a sociology dept? ;-) | 14:48 |
nikhil | yes, and I doubt if there's any other way | 14:48 |
nikhil | LOL | 14:48 |
rosmaita | mclaren: not sure i can handle postmodern virtual machine images | 14:48 |
mclaren | lol | 14:48 |
nikhil | rosmaita: yeah, I doubt if this will be MVP (or considered MVP by some) unless we implement swift based one too | 14:48 |
mclaren | anyway, we've a skeleton to talk through at the summit I guess | 14:49 |
nikhil | it being that main reason for this refactor | 14:49 |
nikhil | how about we start working on a spec for this before the summit so that we know what we are discussing on? | 14:49 |
rosmaita | ummm... i think we have a spec | 14:50 |
rosmaita | approved, and everything | 14:50 |
jokke_ | rosmaita: ++ | 14:50 |
nikhil | well it's a direction | 14:50 |
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rosmaita | spec actually says glance-direct will be done first | 14:50 |
nikhil | we still don't have implementation details and know what are our constraints | 14:50 |
nikhil | for eg. what are the operator impacts with this import way vs. regular way | 14:50 |
mclaren | not sure a spec is needed -- let's discuss at summit? | 14:50 |
nikhil | (ref. staging area) | 14:50 |
nikhil | sure, I don't mind having this in a etherpad (no spec in that case) just need to know what, when, how for newton | 14:51 |
rosmaita | my feeling is let's work on stuart's etherpad (within the constraints of the approved spec) before hte summit, then at the summit we'll be in a good position to assign work items and realistically see what can be deliverd in newton | 14:51 |
nikhil | because, I can't be really tentative in my communications of 1) proposer: we have this feature for newton, will you be able to get that in ? -- ans (nikhil): I don't know, I can't say 2) proposer: when will you know ? nikhil: I don't know | 14:53 |
nikhil | as long as we agree to agree (and not agree to disagree or more) at the summit, it's fine with me | 14:54 |
rosmaita | well, we will know more at the summit ... i mean, the api is set, no more arguing about that, we (me & stuart) can work on implementation details between now and hte summit | 14:54 |
nikhil | rosmaita: cool, that sounds good. I'd love to be involved in the implementation details too. | 14:54 |
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nikhil | let me move on for now | 14:55 |
nikhil | #topic open discussion | 14:55 |
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rosmaita | oh, sure, don't mean to exclude anyone ... everyone is welcome to join in the mess! | 14:55 |
mfedosin | folks, do you know about an issue in glance v1? | 14:55 |
nikhil | rosmaita: I think it's a fun challenging work item! Can't wait to get my hands on (some or more) of the code for this!!!!! | 14:55 |
jokke_ | mfedosin: plenty :) | 14:56 |
mfedosin | you can't sort by public images there | 14:56 |
nikhil | mfedosin: well, it's glance v1 for first :P | 14:56 |
mclaren | mfedosin: how do you mean? | 14:56 |
avarner | This will be my last weekly meeting, due to a change in job responsibilities. I'm no longer working on glance, although I do plan to finish the items assigned to me. | 14:56 |
mfedosin | if you provide is_public=true then it list all images | 14:56 |
mclaren | heh, give me one second, there's a link for that | 14:56 |
mfedosin | darja told me today, but I haven't checked yet | 14:56 |
nikhil | avarner: Thanks Drew, for letting us know! I'd like to sync offline a bit more on that with you. | 14:57 |
jokke_ | avarner: sorry to hear, are you staying withing OpenStack still, and thanks for everything you have done! | 14:57 |
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mclaren | mfedosin: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/glance/glanceapi.html Note Use of the is_public parameter is restricted to admin users. For all other users it will be ignored. | 14:58 |
avarner | jokke_, I'll be working on container stuff in IBM, probably not much Openstack | 14:58 |
mfedosin | mclaren: ah, cool! thank you | 14:58 |
nikhil | btw, do people need email sent from me endorsing the utmost necessity for your presence at the mid-cycle to help you talk with the managers? (this is serious question) | 14:58 |
jokke_ | avarner: well best of luck then for your future adventures | 14:59 |
rosmaita | nikhil: yes for me, don't know if it will have any effect, though | 14:59 |
mclaren | mfedosin: the v1 is_public filter was always kinda broken | 14:59 |
avarner | jokke_, thanks! | 14:59 |
nikhil | rosmaita: it doesn't hurt to try! | 14:59 |
nikhil | :) | 14:59 |
jokke_ | nikhil: won't change a thing | 14:59 |
nikhil | jokke_: oopsie :/ | 14:59 |
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mfedosin | "Use of the is_public parameter is restricted to admin users" but it doesn't work even for admins now | 14:59 |
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rosmaita | mfedosin: we've had to disable image-list for admins by policy in our cloud | 15:00 |
nikhil | yeah | 15:00 |
rosmaita | too many images | 15:00 |
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mfedosin | we had to disable v1 | 15:00 |
nikhil | yeah -> is_public filtering is tricky indeed | 15:00 |
nikhil | we're out of time | 15:00 |
mclaren | mfedosin: hmm, might be a bug so? | 15:01 |
nikhil | Thanks all for joining! | 15:01 |
jokke_ | thanks! | 15:01 |
rosmaita | nova uses image_type to distinguish base images from snapshots | 15:01 |
mfedosin | will check in a moment | 15:01 |
nikhil | guys, I think SL team is waiting for us to finish | 15:01 |
nikhil | let's sync on -glance | 15:01 |
nikhil | thanks again | 15:01 |
nikhil | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 14 15:01:48 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-04-14-14.00.html | 15:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-04-14-14.00.txt | 15:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-04-14-14.00.log.html | 15:01 |
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nikhil | TravT: all yours | 15:02 |
nikhil | :) | 15:02 |
TravT | thanks nikhil! | 15:02 |
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TravT | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:02 |
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openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 14 15:02:23 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TravT. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:02 |
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TravT | o/ | 15:02 |
RickA-HP | o/ | 15:02 |
yingjun | o/ | 15:03 |
lei-zh | o/ | 15:03 |
lakshmiS | o/ | 15:03 |
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rosmaita | o/ | 15:03 |
TravT | okay. i think sjmc7 is around too. | 15:03 |
sjmc7 | morning | 15:04 |
TravT | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:04 |
TravT | #topic Backport 0.2.1 | 15:04 |
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TravT | The items we talked about last week are in | 15:04 |
TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:merged+project:openstack/searchlight+branch:stable/mitaka | 15:04 |
TravT | everything on there since Apr 8 | 15:04 |
TravT | yingjun: submited a fix this morning that i'd consider as well | 15:05 |
TravT | if we agree on handling | 15:05 |
TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305627/ | 15:05 |
sjmc7 | i’m not sure thiose are the only fields with disagreeing mappings | 15:06 |
TravT | i'm not either... | 15:06 |
TravT | but i'd like to backport mappings as necessary | 15:07 |
TravT | because if somebody does deploy | 15:07 |
TravT | they'll have to re-index | 15:07 |
TravT | to pick up mapping changes | 15:07 |
TravT | so, better to get those backported, i think. | 15:07 |
sjmc7 | yeah, i guess i was saying if we’re going to do that we should check all the mappings rather than doing it piecemeal | 15:08 |
TravT | +1 that | 15:08 |
TravT | so... | 15:08 |
sjmc7 | i’ll run the es 2 migration tool on an index today | 15:08 |
sjmc7 | there’s another related bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight/+bug/1532010 | 15:09 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1532010 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "Identically named fields with different definitions not allowed in elasticsearch 2.0" [Undecided,New] | 15:09 |
TravT | hmmm | 15:09 |
sjmc7 | i’ll run the migration tool after this to get the list of fields now we’ve added a load of stuff | 15:10 |
TravT | ok, that'd be very helpful. | 15:10 |
sjmc7 | and it really should be a test job | 15:10 |
TravT | interesting thing about that... | 15:10 |
lakshmiS | well removing doc type will be a major change | 15:10 |
sjmc7 | doc type isn’t being removewd | 15:10 |
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lakshmiS | isnt 2.0 doc type is not suggested | 15:10 |
TravT | is a ramification might end up being that some types have to go in different resource groups (once that patch lands to re-enable it) | 15:10 |
TravT | we can try to keep field mapping in sync for as long as possible. | 15:11 |
sjmc7 | lakshmiS: doc types still exist in 2.0, but they’re enforcing rules more strictly | 15:11 |
sjmc7 | TravT: yeah, if we really can’t make two fields agree they’d need renaming or a separate group | 15:12 |
sjmc7 | though i guess i’d prefer to map the field twice and store it both ways | 15:12 |
TravT | like raw strings? | 15:13 |
sjmc7 | yeah. anyway, i’ll see how many fields are affected | 15:13 |
TravT | Okay, cool | 15:13 |
TravT | thanks sjmc7 | 15:13 |
TravT | based on that, will decide whether or not to hold up 0.2.1 tag | 15:13 |
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RickA-HP | sjmc7: Storing it twice, wil that complicate the queries? | 15:14 |
sjmc7 | i don’t know | 15:14 |
TravT | for things like volume size... | 15:15 |
TravT | for now changing that to long is fine with me | 15:15 |
TravT | and let the buyer beware | 15:15 |
TravT | on horizon side now, we apply filters to the output to show correct unit | 15:16 |
TravT | but possibly we could have an enhancement to provide a normalized field size too. | 15:16 |
TravT | (new field) | 15:16 |
TravT | but that would need to be separate patch, i think | 15:16 |
TravT | i mean using https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/_multi_fields.html | 15:17 |
TravT | do something like | 15:17 |
TravT | have long for the base type def, then have a .mb .gb field | 15:18 |
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TravT | anyway... let's take that discussion to the patch | 15:18 |
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TravT | #topic Summit Finalization | 15:19 |
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TravT | I've filled out our fishbowl and 1st working session | 15:20 |
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TravT | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/#day=2016-04-28&summit_types=2&tags=1728 | 15:20 |
TravT | fishbowl is the whole notifications talk | 15:20 |
TravT | and i've tagged several other projects to see if we get participation | 15:20 |
TravT | 1st working session is for cross region | 15:20 |
TravT | of note is that horizon has a session where searchlight has been tagged | 15:21 |
sjmc7 | yeah, that’s good | 15:21 |
TravT | for the 2nd searchlight session | 15:22 |
TravT | we have a few options | 15:22 |
TravT | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/searchlight-newton-summit | 15:22 |
TravT | I'm thinking of splitting it and just seeing if we get to more than the first topic | 15:22 |
TravT | First topic would be the pipeline architecture if we get representation for lei-zh's team in attendance | 15:23 |
sjmc7 | yeah, i think last time we went over a bunch of stuff | 15:23 |
TravT | second topic would be priorities review | 15:23 |
sjmc7 | in our sweaty little room | 15:23 |
TravT | yes, that was quite packed last time | 15:23 |
rosmaita | TravT: the first work session is up against a nova/glance session on moving to images v2 | 15:23 |
rosmaita | i had to sit on the floor | 15:23 |
sjmc7 | you can sit on a chair this time | 15:24 |
TravT | rosmaita: oh... | 15:24 |
lei-zh | ok, I'll double check with yuntong | 15:24 |
TravT | so it seems like you'd be very important for cross region | 15:24 |
TravT | so i could move that to the second session | 15:24 |
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sjmc7 | :D | 15:24 |
rosmaita | that would be cool | 15:24 |
TravT | okay, i'll do that | 15:24 |
sjmc7 | be good to grab brad and david for that one, too | 15:25 |
sjmc7 | and maybe eric | 15:25 |
TravT | yeah, definitely | 15:25 |
rosmaita | just checked, that 2nd time doesn't conflict with any glance stuff | 15:25 |
sjmc7 | ok. does it conflict with horizon? | 15:25 |
TravT | it shouldn't | 15:25 |
TravT | but let me check | 15:25 |
sjmc7 | i guess we can figure it out | 15:25 |
sjmc7 | thanks for pointing that out, rosmaita. timing clashes are the theme of summits :) | 15:26 |
david-lyle | IIRC horizon and searchlight had no conflicts | 15:26 |
sjmc7 | splendid | 15:26 |
TravT | here's horizon schedule https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=horizon%3A | 15:27 |
TravT | no conflicts | 15:27 |
TravT | okay, so we'll make that change | 15:27 |
rosmaita | thanks! | 15:28 |
nikhil | o/ | 15:28 |
TravT | and i'll make the first working session be the pot of stew | 15:28 |
nikhil | quick ques | 15:28 |
TravT | we'll throw whatever we can in | 15:28 |
TravT | nikhil: shoot | 15:28 |
rosmaita | i was supposed to bring pie, can't remember why now | 15:28 |
nikhil | * should I tag SL against Glare session? (trying to see if there was interest) | 15:28 |
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TravT | that was the artifact and app catalog right? | 15:28 |
nikhil | or people can choose to sync with app-catalog folks off-the-band too | 15:29 |
nikhil | TravT: yeah | 15:29 |
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TravT | seems like there will be some discussion of interest there, so i'm okay if you tag it | 15:29 |
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nikhil | this one https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9162?goback=1 | 15:29 |
nikhil | ok, sounds good. will do that then. | 15:29 |
nikhil | done | 15:30 |
nikhil | and done (tagging) | 15:30 |
nikhil | thanks | 15:30 |
TravT | oh boy, that one does conflict with a horizon topic of particular interest as well | 15:30 |
TravT | horizon scaling | 15:30 |
sjmc7 | :) | 15:31 |
nikhil | oopsie | 15:31 |
TravT | well we'll try to figure it out. | 15:31 |
nikhil | well I hope rosmaita can be a liaison then ? :) | 15:31 |
rosmaita | for which one? | 15:31 |
TravT | yes. he can also bring the pie | 15:31 |
nikhil | rosmaita: for Glare and app catalog interactions and the need for SL | 15:32 |
rosmaita | sure | 15:32 |
nikhil | thx | 15:32 |
TravT | thx rosmaita | 15:32 |
rosmaita | actually, i better check | 15:32 |
rosmaita | ok, that's already on my calendar ... duh! so just to get this straight, i will represent searchlight at the glare/app catalog glance working session? | 15:33 |
TravT | that's our hope! | 15:34 |
rosmaita | ok, got it | 15:34 |
rosmaita | but no pie for that session | 15:34 |
rosmaita | i only bring pie to searchlight | 15:34 |
sjmc7 | woo! | 15:34 |
TravT | sweet | 15:34 |
TravT | maybe yingjun can also make that one. | 15:34 |
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TravT | hide a knife in it | 15:34 |
nikhil | heh | 15:35 |
rosmaita | i can use the knife as a distraction | 15:35 |
nikhil | I think you can carry a swiss knife these days (but not entirely sure) | 15:35 |
rosmaita | yes, but can you carry a pie? | 15:35 |
nikhil | yeah as long as it's not too soggy | 15:36 |
rosmaita | it can only be 6 ounces | 15:36 |
TravT | well, i'm thinking that if you put a knife in it, it will become invisible on their radiation screens | 15:36 |
nikhil | the liquid part needs to be <<< crust | 15:36 |
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TravT | so you'll slip straight through | 15:36 |
nikhil | :) | 15:36 |
yingjun | TravT which one? | 15:36 |
rosmaita | i don;'t know, didn't they catch a guy the other day with a pot grinder shaped like a hand grenade? | 15:36 |
TravT | pumpkin | 15:36 |
TravT | yingjun: https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9162?goback=1 | 15:37 |
rosmaita | i guess we are getting off topic here | 15:37 |
TravT | basically app catalog is considering using a glance API called glare and they are also talking about indexing into elastic search | 15:37 |
TravT | so there might come up some discussion about using searchlight for their ES needs | 15:38 |
rosmaita | yingjun: it would be good for you to make it, as someone who would actually know something about searchlight | 15:38 |
rosmaita | i will go too, but i don't have a lot of depth | 15:39 |
yingjun | TravT, thanks, seems interesting, i’ll try to make that | 15:39 |
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TravT | okay, great! | 15:39 |
TravT | okay, so only other thing is if we want to try to get together for lunch or dinner some day? | 15:40 |
TravT | summit is always hectic | 15:40 |
rosmaita | i want to go to this on tuesday evening: http://www.antonesnightclub.com/event/1125203-greg-izor-box-kickers-austin/ | 15:40 |
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rosmaita | don't think there's anything "official" yet on tuesday evening | 15:41 |
TravT | that looks interesting. | 15:41 |
rosmaita | doors for the above open at 9 and tickets are only $5, so i think you have to show up early | 15:41 |
rosmaita | will talk to a guy i know in austin who's familiar with the music scene to find out | 15:42 |
TravT | okay, that'd be great | 15:42 |
TravT | maybe you can report back next week? | 15:42 |
rosmaita | anyway, my point was, if we do dinner, need to be done by 8:30 or so if we do it tuesday | 15:42 |
sjmc7 | i do eat pretty fast | 15:42 |
rosmaita | ok, will do | 15:42 |
TravT | okay. | 15:42 |
TravT | one other topic | 15:42 |
TravT | #newton specs | 15:42 |
rosmaita | also, i have some info to put on the cross region spec | 15:43 |
TravT | #topic newton specs | 15:43 |
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TravT | okay | 15:43 |
TravT | Cross region searching discussion (sjmc7): https://review.openstack.org/301227 | 15:43 |
TravT | you can add there | 15:43 |
TravT | or discuss now | 15:43 |
TravT | we also have the session | 15:43 |
sjmc7 | yeah, all information is good. won’t be committing to implementing anything til after the summit | 15:44 |
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rosmaita | i will put it on spec | 15:44 |
rosmaita | can also summarize here if we have time | 15:44 |
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TravT | well, other topic is an update on swift | 15:45 |
TravT | nothing else i know of | 15:45 |
rosmaita | ok, it's a good news/bad news kind of thing | 15:45 |
TravT | ok | 15:45 |
rosmaita | good news is that most customers seem to have all resources in a single region | 15:45 |
rosmaita | around 90%, will put exact number on spec | 15:46 |
rosmaita | so good in the sense maybe don't need to do it | 15:46 |
rosmaita | bad news is, | 15:46 |
rosmaita | of course we want to do it! HA means multiple regions for most people | 15:46 |
rosmaita | and those customers tend to be the biggest | 15:46 |
rosmaita | anyway, that's the summary | 15:47 |
sjmc7 | yeah, we’ve got a similar issue | 15:47 |
sjmc7 | most people don’t need it, but the ones that do are the big ones | 15:47 |
TravT | and the big ones probably would appreciate search more... | 15:48 |
rosmaita | but everyone here is +1 on the "stats" idea sjmc7 put on the spec | 15:48 |
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TravT | i think so | 15:49 |
TravT | trying to find it again | 15:49 |
sjmc7 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301227/ | 15:49 |
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TravT | i don't think we'll be able to discuss deeply further today | 15:50 |
TravT | so might give a quick update on swift if that's okay | 15:50 |
TravT | #topic Swift: (LakshmiS): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305404/ | 15:50 |
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TravT | lakshmiS: do you want to summarize? | 15:51 |
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lakshmiS | sure | 15:51 |
lakshmiS | we met with swift team yesterday to discuss the client library | 15:52 |
lakshmiS | since they were hesitant to go with oslo/rabbit mq route | 15:52 |
lakshmiS | they were agreeing to use elasticsearch python client library to communicate directly with elasticsearch behind searchlight | 15:52 |
lakshmiS | but still they haven't quite figured where in their code we can make those calls from | 15:53 |
lakshmiS | they have given some pointers on calling it during container sync process | 15:53 |
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lakshmiS | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/overview_container_sync.html#what-s-going-on-behind-the-scenes-in-the-cluster | 15:54 |
TravT | i think conceptually we may be looking at a big paradigm shift for that plugin. | 15:55 |
TravT | where searchlight really only needs to have an API plugin for RBAC | 15:55 |
TravT | but not the indexing. | 15:55 |
TravT | will be interesting to explore this area further | 15:56 |
lakshmiS | right. i was thinking to see if we can provide a interface with common methods if we have more than one plugin doing it that way | 15:56 |
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TravT | well thanks for the quick work on it | 15:58 |
TravT | i know we gave them something pretty primitive relative to our real plugins | 15:58 |
TravT | but it was enough to continue the conversation | 15:58 |
lakshmiS | yeah it was just for the meeting | 15:58 |
TravT | okay, | 15:58 |
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TravT | well i think we're out of time | 15:59 |
TravT | thanks everybody\ | 15:59 |
TravT | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 14 15:59:29 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-04-14-15.02.html | 15:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-04-14-15.02.txt | 15:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-04-14-15.02.log.html | 15:59 |
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odyssey4me | #startmeeting OpenStack-Ansible | 16:06 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 14 16:06:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is odyssey4me. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:06 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:06 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible' | 16:06 |
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odyssey4me | #topic Agenda & Rollcall | 16:06 |
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spotz | \o/ | 16:07 |
mattt | \o | 16:07 |
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automagically | o/ | 16:08 |
odyssey4me | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 16:08 |
odyssey4me | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-04-07-16.01.html | 16:08 |
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odyssey4me | I had two action items last week - one to instrument all repositories for release notes. That's done in terms of our repo prep, I need to actually submit the infra patch to activate the jobs. | 16:09 |
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odyssey4me | #action odyssey4me to submit patches to OpenStack-CI to activate release notes jobs for all IRR's | 16:09 |
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odyssey4me | the other action item was to post the session details and send a notification to the ML | 16:10 |
odyssey4me | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091760.html | 16:10 |
odyssey4me | done | 16:10 |
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odyssey4me | #topic Newton Summit Planning | 16:11 |
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cloudnull | o/ | 16:11 |
odyssey4me | automagically you posted an etherpad for the one session - can you post it now to add to the meeting reference | 16:11 |
d34dh0r53 | o/ | 16:12 |
odyssey4me | has anyone else managed to prep an etherpad and is looking for early feedback? | 16:12 |
automagically | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-newton-dynamic-inventory | 16:12 |
automagically | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-newton-dynamic-inventory | 16:12 |
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odyssey4me | looks good to me | 16:16 |
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odyssey4me | I encourage everyone to take a peek and if you manage to do any investigation and put patches together ahead of time, make notes and add them to the etherpad | 16:16 |
odyssey4me | the more prepared we all are, the more productive the work session will be | 16:16 |
automagically | ++ to that ^ | 16:17 |
cloudnull | ++ | 16:18 |
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odyssey4me | alright, I'll be doing most of my summit prep next week and hope to propose a few review for consideration and discussion | 16:18 |
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odyssey4me | any other thoughts, comments, questions on the topic of the summit before we move on? | 16:19 |
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evrardjp | none | 16:19 |
automagically | none here | 16:19 |
odyssey4me | alrighty then | 16:20 |
odyssey4me | #topic Release Planning and Decisions | 16:20 |
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odyssey4me | We're scheduled to release 13.0.1, 12.0.11, 11.2.14 next week Thu. | 16:21 |
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odyssey4me | The current state of the branch heads looks good. It seems like we have a rather healthy, stable base of code. :) | 16:21 |
odyssey4me | the only issue that's a bit of a thorn in the side seems to be https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1569446 | 16:22 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1569446 in openstack-ansible "Secondary nodes fail to join galera cluster" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Darren Birkett (darren-birkett) | 16:22 |
odyssey4me | but it seems that mancdaz has managed to find a workaround that we can implement at least | 16:22 |
spotz | not very started but #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-newton-role-docs | 16:22 |
odyssey4me | so we should have something suitable for those releases | 16:22 |
odyssey4me | spotz the link command needs to be at the start of the line I think | 16:23 |
odyssey4me | ie | 16:23 |
odyssey4me | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-newton-role-docs | 16:23 |
spotz | oops:) | 16:23 |
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odyssey4me | :) | 16:23 |
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odyssey4me | is anyone aware of any critical issues, or is anyone blocked on anything and needs assistance? | 16:24 |
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odyssey4me | (related to any of the stable branches, or a master branch patch) | 16:24 |
mattt | i don't | 16:25 |
spotz | me neither | 16:25 |
odyssey4me | alrighty | 16:25 |
odyssey4me | #topic Blueprint work | 16:25 |
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odyssey4me | any updates for any of the feature work? michaelgugino, automagically, vdo ? | 16:26 |
odyssey4me | logan- ^ | 16:26 |
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automagically | Still waiting on an internal team that’s been working OVS/DVR to get me their diffs so I can compare them to what we’ve already got in a submitted patch | 16:27 |
logan- | will begin hacking on mitaka after the summit so next month perhaps ill have a review up for the calico stuff. | 16:27 |
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odyssey4me | excellent logan- :) our network subsystem support is starting to really awrm up nicely :) | 16:27 |
odyssey4me | *warm | 16:27 |
evrardjp | Thanks for the work | 16:27 |
odyssey4me | automagically great to hear that your team is on it too :) | 16:28 |
odyssey4me | #topic Open Discussion | 16:28 |
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odyssey4me | well, we have plenty of time to shoot the breeze | 16:28 |
stevelle | have any of the broken out roles gotten multiple gate tests or scenarios tested in a single gate proposed yet? | 16:28 |
odyssey4me | stevelle well, the galera_server role does multiple things | 16:29 |
stevelle | I haven't seen, but there are a fair number of roles now | 16:29 |
cloudnull | stevelle: the galera role will do an upgrade but its all in a single gate | 16:29 |
odyssey4me | stevelle and I think that the ironic role may too - IDK if you made it test both standalone and integrated cloudnull ? | 16:29 |
cloudnull | odyssey4me: its all in a single gate | 16:29 |
stevelle | I'll peek at that then | 16:30 |
odyssey4me | yeah, all single job - but the preference is to pipeline things | 16:30 |
stevelle | afraid the galera upgrade isn't as comparable | 16:30 |
odyssey4me | ie if it's possible to build the env, test, reconfigure, test then that's what infra preferrs | 16:30 |
cloudnull | we need to get the timeout higher to do more | 16:30 |
stevelle | ^ thats a concern for me | 16:30 |
mattt | yep my nova + tempest functional test needs more time too :( | 16:30 |
odyssey4me | we may have to get more creative with keeping it under the timeout first | 16:30 |
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cloudnull | i think we just need to make it longer. | 16:31 |
odyssey4me | for instance it may make sense for some role to not bother building containers and just deploy everything on the host | 16:31 |
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stevelle | I haven't done a time analysis yet because I still don't have convergence on gnocchi working in the gate but it seems strange to take a half hour to build 3 containers, install galera and 2 os_* services | 16:31 |
cloudnull | i think that makes sense if the role doesnt have additional code paths when there is more than one instance | 16:31 |
odyssey4me | I also need to put in a patch for infra to mirror mariadb | 16:31 |
cloudnull | if the role does something else when there is n+1 then we need to test that | 16:32 |
odyssey4me | cloudnull agreed, if n+1 is needed then containers make sense | 16:32 |
evrardjp | do we have metrics different that just parsing logs? | 16:32 |
stevelle | I was planning to use tempest tests to verify a working deployment | 16:32 |
cloudnull | we have 1.5 hours on the integrated gate, we should get the same for the roles too | 16:32 |
jmccrory | need to collect additional logs for IRRs instead of just ansible output also | 16:33 |
evrardjp | to see the time each step takes in average | 16:33 |
cloudnull | +1 jmccrory | 16:33 |
stevelle | I won't have time to deploy tempest and run it right now | 16:33 |
odyssey4me | cloudnull infra is very reticent to increase timeouts | 16:33 |
cloudnull | it'd also be nice to collect conf files too | 16:33 |
odyssey4me | stevelle if you cull the containers, might that help? | 16:33 |
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cloudnull | odyssey4me: then we need external CI and we need to make it voting. | 16:33 |
odyssey4me | yeah, we can add a log collection job - I'll do a patch for that | 16:33 |
stevelle | odyssey4me: can't cull containers when I have 2 services using apache | 16:33 |
cloudnull | the infra roles are quick | 16:34 |
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cloudnull | but things like nova require building a cluster. | 16:34 |
odyssey4me | #action odyssey4me to add review for the collection of IRR job logs | 16:34 |
cloudnull | which requires an image, networks, ect. | 16:35 |
odyssey4me | cloudnull external CI would be preferable, but that requires appropriate org sponsorship - I know that RPC may be ready to do that later in the cycle and automagically and I have spoken about it, but no hard plans yet. | 16:35 |
mattt | nova can probably go full bare metal | 16:35 |
automagically | I have agreement in principal within my org, but need to get the work prioritized | 16:36 |
cloudnull | so i think our only option is to get infra to give the jobs more time | 16:36 |
mattt | but it's easier putting things into containers | 16:36 |
odyssey4me | stevelle I think that perhaps we need to aim to adjust how we do the Apache bits so that we don't have them clashing | 16:36 |
evrardjp | mattt nested virt could work | 16:36 |
stevelle | odyssey4me: agreed, and I would like to see abt fronting w/ nginx also | 16:37 |
jmccrory | should apache be a separate role with horizon/keystone/whatever else providing vhost confs? | 16:37 |
stevelle | jmccrory: +1 | 16:37 |
mattt | jmccrory: +1 | 16:37 |
mattt | that would be ideal | 16:37 |
odyssey4me | jmccrory I would think so, yes. | 16:37 |
palendae | Maybe re-use an existing apache role there? | 16:37 |
evrardjp | I agree jmccrory | 16:37 |
spotz | +1 jmccrory | 16:37 |
jmccrory | looked like barbican wanted apache as well | 16:37 |
odyssey4me | There's likely a decent Apache role available in Galaxy that already supports multiple platforms and all that | 16:38 |
cloudnull | some projects have timeouts as large as 190 | 16:38 |
spotz | jmccrory: They working on it last I was involved with them | 16:38 |
cloudnull | idk think its an issue to ask for a full hour | 16:38 |
stevelle | +1 reuse a reverse-proxy if provided, identify roles to manage them -- ideally with optional container | 16:38 |
odyssey4me | cloudnull I'll do a request for an increased timeout, or perhaps try and get a per-role setting so that we can customised it based on the specific role needs | 16:38 |
odyssey4me | but I do want to ensure that we think creatively and try to reduce the moving parts in the role tests | 16:39 |
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evrardjp | odyssey4me what's the reason they are afraid? | 16:39 |
evrardjp | of increasing the timeout | 16:39 |
evrardjp | isn't it conditional on the repo? | 16:39 |
cloudnull | based on our project config we're not setting a timeout for our roles. | 16:39 |
odyssey4me | evrardjp not afriad, they just have limited resources and longer timeouts mean that resources are held for longer | 16:39 |
cloudnull | just for the intagrated build | 16:39 |
cloudnull | I think getting it set to 60 should be an easy proposition | 16:40 |
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stevelle | the reality is that deploying and functionally testing that takes longer than unit testing. | 16:40 |
palendae | ^ | 16:41 |
palendae | We're doing full deploys of stuff | 16:41 |
cloudnull | also i'd rather us *not* think too creative to minimize time -- I'd like the tests to be representative of what will be deployed. | 16:41 |
stevelle | our peg isn't round | 16:41 |
cloudnull | what stevelle said | 16:41 |
palendae | Do the Puppet modules use infra? | 16:42 |
cloudnull | they do . | 16:42 |
palendae | I'd think they'd run into similar problems | 16:42 |
cloudnull | their tests have a timeout of timeout: 60 | 16:42 |
palendae | Though Puppet's language is more like a full programming language | 16:42 |
odyssey4me | cloudnull we have the integrated build for the full functional test which is representative, and I hope that we can do the gate split to increase coverage | 16:42 |
odyssey4me | puppet, for instance, has 3 scenarios tested in their integrated build | 16:43 |
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odyssey4me | so anyway, I'll discuss the timeouts with infra and find an appropriate solution which can be applied per role | 16:44 |
odyssey4me | but we should be creative in ensuring that we aren't wasting the time that we have to also ensure quick feedback | 16:44 |
evrardjp | agree, best of both | 16:44 |
odyssey4me | also, less moving parts ensures a more focused test with a smaller chance of unrelated failures | 16:45 |
mattt | i think that is fair | 16:45 |
odyssey4me | #action odyssey4me to submit a patch to increase the job timeout for selected roles | 16:46 |
cloudnull | sorry lost connection for a min there. | 16:46 |
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odyssey4me | #action odyssey4me to submit a patch to infra to mirror the mariadb repo to help reduce role job execution times, and reduce the risk of failure | 16:47 |
odyssey4me | alright, is there anything else I can help with to smooth the glide path to success? ;) | 16:48 |
cloudnull | haha | 16:49 |
odyssey4me | is there anything else that anyone would like to raise? | 16:49 |
cloudnull | you need to monitize your core competencies | 16:49 |
cloudnull | :p | 16:49 |
evrardjp | monitize? | 16:49 |
palendae | monetize* | 16:50 |
cloudnull | *monetize | 16:50 |
evrardjp | :D | 16:50 |
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odyssey4me | alrighty, if that's all then we're done for today | 16:51 |
cloudnull | related to buzz words https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyV_UG60dD4 | 16:51 |
odyssey4me | thank you all for participating - have an awesome day! | 16:51 |
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cloudnull | have a good one | 16:51 |
odyssey4me | #endmeeting | 16:51 |
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evrardjp | thanks everyone | 16:51 |
openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 14 16:51:31 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:51 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-04-14-16.06.html | 16:51 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-04-14-16.06.txt | 16:51 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-04-14-16.06.log.html | 16:51 |
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cathy__ | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 14 17:00:47 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cathy__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:00 |
cathy__ | hi everyone | 17:00 |
yamahata | hello | 17:01 |
LouisF | hi | 17:01 |
doonhammer | hi | 17:01 |
scsnow | hi | 17:01 |
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cathy__ | Let's start | 17:01 |
cathy__ | #topic Meeting time change from Thursday 1700 UTC to Wednesday 1700 UTC | 17:02 |
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cathy__ | Russell Bryant who is the TC and Neutron core member would also like to join our IRC meeting, but the time conflict with OVN project IRC meeting. We would like him to join our meeting and give us guidance and input. Also some of us would like to join the OVN meeting for supporting integration of networking-sfc with OVN. | 17:04 |
cathy__ | So is this time change OK with everyone? | 17:04 |
LouisF | +1 | 17:04 |
doonhammer | good for me | 17:04 |
scsnow | this is one time change or permanent? | 17:05 |
cathy__ | permanent | 17:05 |
yamahata | From the next week? | 17:05 |
scsnow | ok | 17:05 |
cathy__ | yamahata: yes | 17:05 |
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cathy__ | pcarver: and others OK with you? | 17:05 |
cathy__ | Please speak out if not OK with you:-) | 17:06 |
cathy__ | Looks like Vikram is not on line yet. | 17:07 |
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cathy__ | I will communicate with those who are not on line yet. If not objection, we will change the time to Wednesday 1700 UTC starting next week. I will send an email confirming this | 17:08 |
cathy__ | #agreed Meeting time change from Thursday 1700 UTC to Wednesday 1700 UTC | 17:09 |
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cathy__ | #topic Launch pad bug scrub | 17:09 |
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cathy__ | #link https://launchpad.net/networking-sfc | 17:09 |
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cathy__ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc | 17:10 |
cathy__ | #1569009 remove "mandatory" restriction for "source port" in the Flow Classifier API | 17:10 |
cathy__ | anyone would like to take ownership of this one? | 17:11 |
LouisF | I will look at that | 17:11 |
cathy__ | LouisF: thanks | 17:12 |
cathy__ | #1567654 Add “SFC path-ID” parameter in the chain_param of the API | 17:12 |
cathy__ | Anyone? | 17:12 |
cathy__ | I can take this one | 17:13 |
cathy__ | #1567644 Add “Symmetric” parameter in the chain_param of the API | 17:13 |
scsnow | I could look into simple issues. I'm not really familiar with code yet, but would like to get involed. | 17:13 |
cathy__ | scsnow: Thanks! | 17:13 |
cathy__ | #1566877 network-sfc doesn't look started | 17:14 |
cathy__ | The submitter is Jonathan Jacoby. | 17:15 |
LouisF | that is related to horizon support | 17:15 |
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LouisF | can assign to mohankumar? | 17:16 |
LouisF | he was expecting to see SFC tab in horizon | 17:16 |
cathy__ | LouisF: yes, you are right. I think once Horizon is merged this bug is gone since it asks for Horizon support | 17:17 |
cathy__ | I think we can close this bug | 17:17 |
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cathy__ | #1564455 Neutron did not start - While Stacking | 17:17 |
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georgewang | hi | 17:18 |
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cathy__ | This one was also submitted by Jonathan Jacoby. The note says "it works now, never mind". So I will close this bug | 17:18 |
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cathy__ | #1558020 API document have to modify as per changes introduced in flow classifier | 17:19 |
s3wong | hello. Sorry --- late | 17:19 |
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fsunaval | cathy_: I can look into it. | 17:19 |
fsunaval | ok | 17:19 |
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LouisF | i think that one can also be closed based on last comment | 17:19 |
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cathy__ | s3wong: OK, we are doing bug srub now. | 17:19 |
cathy__ | scrub | 17:19 |
s3wong | cathy__: OK | 17:19 |
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cathy__ | fsunaval: Mohan has assigned the API document one to himself. | 17:20 |
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cathy__ | let's go to the next one | 17:20 |
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cathy__ | Mohan sent me a note that he can not join today | 17:21 |
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cathy__ | #1558012 incorrect error message for invalid argument in "neutron port-pair-group-create --port-pair" | 17:21 |
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cathy__ | looks like Mohan is looking into this bug, I will assign to him | 17:23 |
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cathy__ | #1557600 port-chain-delete failing as "SfcDriverError" | 17:23 |
LouisF | thats assigned to mohan | 17:24 |
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cathy__ | LouisF: yes | 17:24 |
cathy__ | #1553886 remove-unwanted-dependencies | 17:24 |
cathy__ | OK, Xiaodong is looking into this | 17:25 |
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cathy__ | #1538332 Port Pair Create fails for Provider Network | 17:25 |
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cathy__ | This one was submitted by Prithiv (prithiv). Not sure if the error still happens. Could anyone take this one? | 17:27 |
georgewang | I can take care bug 1538332 | 17:27 |
openstack | bug 1538332 in networking-sfc "Port Pair Create fails for Provider Network" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1538332 | 17:27 |
cathy__ | georgewang: thanks | 17:28 |
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cathy__ | Ok, all other bugs seem to be in progress | 17:30 |
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cathy__ | #topic Raise a bug for each code change | 17:31 |
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cathy__ | Currently there are cases that a patch is submitted for review without an associated bug. | 17:31 |
LouisF | we should do that | 17:32 |
vishnoianil | +1 to that | 17:32 |
cathy__ | I am going to scrub those offline and contact each patch owner to submit a bug for each patch so that we can track them properly for back porting purpose. | 17:32 |
cathy__ | This issue was raised by Vikram. | 17:33 |
scsnow | should I open a bug of ongoing review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302324/? | 17:33 |
s3wong | +1 | 17:33 |
cathy__ | From now on, let's follow the rule that each patch should have a bug for it | 17:33 |
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cathy__ | scsnow: sure. thanks. | 17:34 |
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scsnow | ok, will do | 17:34 |
cathy__ | #action Cathy will scrub all patches and make sure there is a bug associated with each patch | 17:34 |
cathy__ | #action scsnow will open a bug for patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302324/? | 17:35 |
cathy__ | #topic launchpad blueprint update/cleanup | 17:36 |
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cathy__ | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/networking-sfc | 17:36 |
cathy__ | I will do some update on the BPs. | 17:37 |
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cathy__ | For the driver BP, I see the opendaylight-sfc-driver, we also need BPs for the ONOS-sfc-driver, Tacker-sfc-driver, native-OVS-sfc-driver and later OVN-sfc-driver | 17:39 |
cathy__ | I will ask vikram/mohan to post the ONOS-sfc-driver BP | 17:39 |
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cathy__ | LouisF: could you add the tacker-sfc-driver BP? | 17:39 |
LouisF | yes | 17:40 |
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LouisF | i will add a ovn bp also | 17:40 |
cathy__ | raofei: could you add the native-ovs-sfc-driver BP? | 17:41 |
cathy__ | LouisF: great, thanks! | 17:41 |
cathy__ | #action vikram/mohan add ONOS-sfc-driver BP | 17:41 |
cathy__ | #action LouisF adds tacker-sfc-driver BP and OVN-sfc-driver BP | 17:42 |
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cathy__ | #action Cathy update existing SFC BPs | 17:42 |
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cathy__ | OK, I will add the native-ovs-sfc-driver BP | 17:43 |
cathy__ | #action Cathy adds native-ovs-sfc-driver BP | 17:44 |
cathy__ | #topic Remove Source port “mandatory” requirement in the FC API | 17:44 |
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cathy__ | Based on email discussion we have agreed to remove the "mandatory" requirement for the "source port" in FC API. | 17:45 |
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cathy__ | We leave it to the SFC driver to decide whether requiring it or implementing its own way of automatically getting this source port. | 17:46 |
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cathy__ | any different opinion on this? | 17:46 |
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cathy__ | #agreed remove the "mandatory" requirement for the "source port" in FC API and leave it to the SFC driver to decide whether requiring it or implementing its own way of automatically getting this source port | 17:47 |
s3wong | +1 | 17:47 |
LouisF | +1 | 17:47 |
fsunaval | +1 | 17:47 |
cathy__ | #topic Consistent Repository rule for networking-sfc related drivers: Northbound Tacker driver and Southbound ONOS driver, ODL driver, OVD driver | 17:48 |
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cathy__ | Shall we put all networking-sfc related drivers in networking-sfc repository? | 17:48 |
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s3wong | cathy__: that is a good topic. I was actually wondering if vishnoianil should file ODL SFC driver under networking-sfc or networking-old | 17:49 |
s3wong | cathy__: now he filed patch under networking-odl | 17:49 |
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cathy__ | s3wong: yes | 17:50 |
cathy__ | vishnoianil: are you there? | 17:50 |
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cathy__ | I guess the bug scrub topic makes people sleepy and people are not active today as before:-) | 17:51 |
yamahata | Since vishnoinail doesn't seem here. | 17:51 |
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yamahata | networking-odl doesn't have strict policy. | 17:51 |
yamahata | It's case-by-case basis. | 17:51 |
yamahata | so sfc-odl-driver can be in networking-sfc or networking-odl | 17:52 |
cathy__ | yamahata: OK, thanks for the info. I see vishnoianil joins the meeting | 17:52 |
cathy__ | yamahata: OK. | 17:52 |
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s3wong | cathy__: which way would you prefer? | 17:54 |
cathy__ | I would like to make a consistent rule for all drivers. putting it in networking-sfc will help people see all the available drivers at a centralized place when they need SFC functionality. If we put the drivers in different repo, people will not know what SFC drivers are available | 17:54 |
cathy__ | s3wong: I think putting them in one centralized place like networking-sfc probably makes more sense. | 17:54 |
LouisF | seems reasonable | 17:55 |
fsunaval | cathy__: I agree with you. It makes most sense to keep all the drivers in networking-sfc. | 17:55 |
georgewang | sounds good | 17:55 |
s3wong | cathy__: I generally agree with that --- since networking-sfc is by itself a library depending on Neutron | 17:55 |
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cathy__ | yamahata: OK with you for odl-sfc-driver? | 17:56 |
LouisF | the onos driver is currently in a separate repo | 17:56 |
s3wong | cathy__: so, if networking-odl, for example, which I assume is another library on top of Neutron, also implements some APIs from networking-sfc, it would be awkward in terms of installation | 17:56 |
yamahata | cathy__: yeah. sounds reasonable. When patch review etc, please make sure add me. | 17:56 |
cathy__ | yamahata: Ok, sure will do | 17:57 |
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vishnoianil | cathy__, i personally think this should be in networking-odl project | 17:57 |
vishnoianil | cathy__, because networking-odl project is an integration point for OpenDaylight | 17:58 |
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LouisF | onos driver https://github.com/openstack/networking-onos | 17:58 |
LouisF | we can speak to vikram about that | 17:59 |
cathy__ | vishnoianil: I agree that networking-odl be in a separate repo. But odl-sfc-driver is an integration between networking-sfc and networking-odl which can be put in either repo | 17:59 |
cathy__ | LouisF: yes | 17:59 |
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vishnoianil | cathy__, LouisF , i see bit of confusion here for the folks who deploy openstack with opendaylight, they will see that some of the driver are in networking-odl, but for rest of the driver then need to go to specifc project | 17:59 |
yamahata | supplement. my position here is a coordinator. If the actual contributer, in this case, vishnoianil, has opinions, we should listen | 18:00 |
cathy__ | I will speak with vikram offline since he is not in the meeting today | 18:00 |
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vishnoianil | cathy__, given that all the driver project see networking-sfc as a API provider and not really a implementation provider | 18:00 |
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vishnoianil | cathy__, we probably end up with the same issue that neutron had in it's earlier days and then they refactored the projects and moved out the specific drivers | 18:01 |
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LouisF | vishnoianil: good point - depends on ownership | 18:02 |
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vishnoianil | cathy__, maintaining these drivers in their own repos, will probably be more easy for the maintainer and also for networking-sfc project to avoid additional maintenance head ache | 18:02 |
cathy__ | vishnoianil: I think for controller case, most of the logic will be in ODL controller, not in the odl-sfc-driver? | 18:02 |
vishnoianil | yeah, so all the drivers are just pass through drivers, so having them in networking-odl make life easier for everyone | 18:03 |
yamahata | Is any (big) API change planed in near term? | 18:03 |
vishnoianil | cathy__, it does not make sense for ishaku to come and review a gerrit that is pushed to networking-sfc | 18:03 |
cathy__ | vishnoianil: Ok, I see your point. time is up. Let's continue the discussion in next week IRC. | 18:03 |
vishnoianil | cathy__, for networking-odl driver :) | 18:03 |
vishnoianil | cathy__, sure | 18:03 |
s3wong | LouisF, cathy__, vishnoianil: I just wonder whether it is strange for networking-xxx to have reference to implement networking-sfc APIs while users may NOT load networking-sfc library | 18:04 |
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cathy__ | s3wong: good point. | 18:04 |
cathy__ | Ok, folks, time is up. Let's think about about the consequence of this and discuss in next meeting | 18:05 |
LouisF | bye | 18:05 |
cathy__ | Bye now | 18:05 |
scsnow | bye | 18:05 |
yamahata | bye | 18:05 |
s3wong | bye | 18:05 |
fsunaval | bye | 18:05 |
cathy__ | #endmeeting | 18:05 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 14 18:05:43 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:05 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-04-14-17.00.html | 18:05 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-04-14-17.00.txt | 18:05 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-04-14-17.00.log.html | 18:05 |
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