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| cihand | ich! | 10:00 |
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| markus_z | cihand: Hey cihand, how are you? | 10:01 |
| markus_z | let's wait a minute for others to join | 10:01 |
| cihand | fine thanks | 10:01 |
| cihand | and you | 10:01 |
| cihand | ok | 10:01 |
| markus_z | can't complain :) | 10:01 |
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| markus_z | ok, let's do it quickly | 10:01 |
| markus_z | #info Launchpad bug spring cleaning day Monday 4/18 http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091456.html | 10:02 |
| markus_z | Nothing more to say to that ML post. Would be great if people participate. | 10:02 |
| markus_z | cihand: You did some bug skimming this week, right? Anything open from you POV? | 10:02 |
| cihand | yep | 10:03 |
| cihand | wasn't able to do much skimming because of work | 10:03 |
| cihand | but the untriaged count seems low | 10:03 |
| markus_z | Every little effort counts | 10:03 |
| markus_z | Yeah, I assume mriedem is slashing through them | 10:04 |
| markus_z | #link Cleanup dashboard: http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html | 10:04 |
| markus_z | just as a reminder which tooling we have right now. Suggestions are welcome. | 10:04 |
| cihand | ok, noted and bookmarked | 10:04 |
| markus_z | #link Historical data: http://45.55.105.55:3000/dashboard/db/openstack-bugs | 10:05 |
| markus_z | OK, no need to waste time. Any open questions from anyone? | 10:05 |
| markus_z | Closing in 3... | 10:06 |
| cihand | one thing i have trouble with | 10:06 |
| markus_z | oh, ok, go on | 10:06 |
| cihand | is marking bugs as confirmed | 10:06 |
| cihand | when I don't have the necessary environment | 10:06 |
| cihand | how do you proceed in those cases | 10:06 |
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| cihand | intuition? | 10:06 |
| kashyap | cihand: You remind the reporter to reproduce the bug... | 10:07 |
| markus_z | A little, yes. I look into the code and try to figure out what's happening. Then the unit tests if they cover the case mentioned in the bug report. | 10:07 |
| cihand | kashyap: but there are some report which seem reasonable | 10:08 |
| kashyap | cihand: Often times we might not have the relevant environment -- unless a bug can be reasonably reproduced on one or two nodes | 10:08 |
| kashyap | cihand: Yeah, sure, if you feel they're fairly reasonable, then go ahead. | 10:08 |
| cihand | kashyap: so it's better ask the reporter for more info | 10:08 |
| cihand | kashyap: rather than confirmed when there are doubts? | 10:09 |
| cihand | s/confirmed/confirming | 10:09 |
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| markus_z | I sometimes left a comment like "looks valid but should be double-checked by folks with the proper environment". | 10:10 |
| cihand | and status stays as New? | 10:10 |
| markus_z | I confirm it then and try to ping folks with that environment (vmware, xen, ...) | 10:10 |
| kashyap | cihand: Yes, what markus_z says | 10:11 |
| cihand | ok i see | 10:11 |
| cihand | well, that clears my question | 10:11 |
| kashyap | cihand: Sometimes just drop into the IRC channel on #openstack-nova, and ask if there are any subject matter experts in that area that can take a quick look to confirm | 10:11 |
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| cihand | kashyap: ok, I'm usually there | 10:11 |
| markus_z | cool, anything else? | 10:12 |
| cihand | nothing else for me | 10:12 |
| kashyap | markus_z: BTW, very nice work on the Dashboard! | 10:12 |
| markus_z | kashyap: thanks! let me know if you miss something there | 10:12 |
| markus_z | closing in 3... | 10:12 |
| * kashyap has been away for the past month, due to personal work. Will be fully back at work early next week. | 10:12 | |
| markus_z | #endmeeting | 10:13 |
| markus_z | hm, bot? | 10:13 |
| markus_z | #endmeeting | 10:13 |
| markus_z | oh, id didn't even record, I missed that... well... nothing to see here anymore... | 10:14 |
| markus_z | s/id/it | 10:14 |
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| cihand | like tears in the rain | 10:15 |
| kashyap | markus_z: Ah, you missed to start the meeting? | 10:15 |
| cihand | nope i can see that | 10:15 |
| cihand | around 13:00:11 | 10:16 |
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| jasondotstar | #startmeeting openstack-salt | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 12 13:00:50 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jasondotstar. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-salt)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_salt' | 13:00 |
| jasondotstar | #topic roll call | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: openstack-salt)" | 13:00 | |
| jasondotstar | o/ | 13:01 |
| cznewt | hello \o | 13:01 |
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| jasondotstar | GM cznewt | 13:01 |
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| jasondotstar | anyone else? | 13:06 |
| jasondotstar | otherwise let's move on | 13:06 |
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| jasondotstar | #topic Introduction | 13:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Introduction (Meeting topic: openstack-salt)" | 13:06 | |
| jasondotstar | This meeting is for the openstack-salt team | 13:06 |
| jasondotstar | if you're interested in contributing to the discussion, please join #openstack-salt | 13:06 |
| jasondotstar | meetings are Weekly on Tuesdays at 1300UTC | 13:06 |
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| jasondotstar | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#OpenStack_Salt_Team_Meeting | 13:07 |
| jasondotstar | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-salt | 13:07 |
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| jasondotstar | #topic Review past action items | 13:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review past action items (Meeting topic: openstack-salt)" | 13:07 | |
| jasondotstar | meeting etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-salt-weekly-meeting-20160412 | 13:07 |
| jasondotstar | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-salt-weekly-meeting-20160412 | 13:08 |
| jasondotstar | genunix to start the RPM packaging spec | 13:08 |
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| genunix | o/ | 13:08 |
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| jasondotstar | hi genunix | 13:08 |
| jasondotstar | any updates here? | 13:08 |
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| genunix | just a little | 13:08 |
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| genunix | I am investigating debian packaging for openstack and trying to reach debian-openstack team and ask them for some guidance | 13:09 |
| cznewt | and there's the salt packaging business | 13:09 |
| genunix | (OFTC/#debian-openstack) | 13:09 |
| jasondotstar | genunix: +1. I'm doing the same on the RPM side. | 13:10 |
| genunix | I have some idea on how to do it but we still need some Debian mentor | 13:10 |
| jasondotstar | +1 | 13:10 |
| genunix | I also hope we can talk with people around packaging on Openstack summit. | 13:11 |
| cznewt | +1 this is one of the priorities | 13:12 |
| jasondotstar | indeed | 13:12 |
| jasondotstar | this sort of dovetails on mine agenda item: | 13:12 |
| jasondotstar | jasondotstar to reach out to dirk (RPM-packaging team) to discuss RPM packaging | 13:12 |
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| jasondotstar | I have reached out to the RPM-packaging team | 13:12 |
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| jasondotstar | they will be assisting us in a couple different things | 13:13 |
| jasondotstar | 1- using their RPM spec templates | 13:13 |
| jasondotstar | to create RPMs for RPM distros we are targeting | 13:14 |
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| jasondotstar | SUSE, CentOS, Fedora | 13:14 |
| jasondotstar | all have small differences | 13:15 |
| jasondotstar | that need to be addressed in the spec files | 13:15 |
| jasondotstar | so there's that | 13:15 |
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| jasondotstar | 2) we have to decide where the 'source' is going to be hosted | 13:17 |
| jasondotstar | in other words | 13:17 |
| jasondotstar | we may have to leverage a 3rd party CI | 13:18 |
| jasondotstar | for build/test | 13:18 |
| jasondotstar | so having the source (perhaps) HTTP accessible to the 3rd party CI would be important | 13:19 |
| jasondotstar | the RPM packaging team uses the SUSE CI pipeline for building RPMs atm. | 13:19 |
| jasondotstar | they are willing help us leverage this same CI. | 13:19 |
| jasondotstar | questions, comments? | 13:19 |
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| jasondotstar | ok moving on | 13:22 |
| jasondotstar | jasondotstar to follow up on how we run integration/functional tests that incorporate multi-node services | 13:23 |
| jasondotstar | no updates on this one yet. | 13:23 |
| jasondotstar | #action jasondotstar to follow up on how we run integration/functional tests that incorporate multi-node services | 13:23 |
| jasondotstar | last one: | 13:23 |
| jasondotstar | cznewt to prepare the BoF session presentation slides for review with the team | 13:23 |
| jasondotstar | cznewt: any status here? | 13:25 |
| jasondotstar | if not, we'll move on to today's agenda | 13:25 |
| jasondotstar | #topic Today's Agenda | 13:26 |
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| jasondotstar | 3rd Party Vendor Support | 13:26 |
| jasondotstar | so I've got a question here | 13:26 |
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| cznewt | I don't have pprogess on that one | 13:27 |
| jasondotstar | what's the team's take on how we are going to support 3rd party vendors | 13:27 |
| jasondotstar | cznewt: no worries | 13:27 |
| cznewt | I 'm preparing another presentation | 13:27 |
| jasondotstar | no prob, we can move it up | 13:28 |
| jasondotstar | if we can get a look at it prior to summit, that'd be a win | 13:29 |
| jasondotstar | #action cznewt to continue prepping the BoF presentation slides for summit | 13:29 |
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| cznewt | yes I'll get it ready till the next week | 13:30 |
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| jasondotstar | so the reason why I'm asking about third party vendor support in our salt formulas is b/c F5 Networks | 13:30 |
| jasondotstar | has reached out to me directly | 13:30 |
| jasondotstar | about this. | 13:30 |
| jasondotstar | this is the first group that has reached out to us | 13:31 |
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| jasondotstar | specifically about salt formulas for integrating BIG-IP devices | 13:32 |
| jasondotstar | with OpenStack | 13:32 |
| jasondotstar | i'd like to hear the team's thoughts on this.... | 13:32 |
| jasondotstar | cznewt, genunix ^^ | 13:34 |
| jasondotstar | any thoughts around this? | 13:34 |
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| genunix | hmm, not much. What's the difference in 3rd party vendors and other contributors? | 13:35 |
| jasondotstar | well, F5 is willing to support us | 13:35 |
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| jasondotstar | give us licenses and dev/test VMs | 13:35 |
| genunix | Ah, didn't know | 13:35 |
| jasondotstar | so that we can do the work that's needed | 13:36 |
| jasondotstar | i think saying that you can use our salt formulas to integrate F5 devices into your OpenStack deployments is a win for us | 13:36 |
| jasondotstar | i guess it | 13:36 |
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| jasondotstar | would be like Cisco and Juniper integration with neutron | 13:37 |
| cznewt | yes indeed, I've seen already some salt f5 integrations somewhere | 13:37 |
| jasondotstar | right, they have begun to open source their stuff | 13:37 |
| cznewt | https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/ref/states/all/salt.states.bigip.html | 13:37 |
| cznewt | we could just whap this in formula with proper metadata | 13:38 |
| jasondotstar | http://github.com/f5networks | 13:38 |
| jasondotstar | cznewt: +1 | 13:38 |
| jasondotstar | they know have a Python SDK | 13:38 |
| jasondotstar | *now | 13:38 |
| jasondotstar | as well | 13:39 |
| jasondotstar | anyway, this is something that can work directly with them on. | 13:39 |
| jasondotstar | they are offering support to us for it. | 13:39 |
| jasondotstar | ok we can talk more about this in chan. | 13:40 |
| jasondotstar | we can figure out how to move forward if we think this is a worthy cause | 13:40 |
| jasondotstar | here's another topic: | 13:40 |
| jasondotstar | Yash's blueprint (support the salt formula for "Keystone" till Liberty release) | 13:40 |
| jasondotstar | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/salt-formula-keystone/+spec/yash-agarwal | 13:40 |
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| jasondotstar | any background info on this one? | 13:41 |
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| genunix | nothing unfortunately | 13:42 |
| genunix | Hoped that anyone here will have more info :-) | 13:42 |
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| genunix | I think it's somehow connected with keystonev3 support | 13:44 |
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| genunix | and Yash's refactor to use python-openstack instead of python-keystone | 13:44 |
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| genunix | He posted url with his changes some time ago in #openstack-salt | 13:45 |
| jasondotstar | genunix: +1 | 13:45 |
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| jasondotstar | honestly, i'd have to take a look to see what this is..... i have no idea :-/ | 13:46 |
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| jasondotstar | but I'll take your word for it :-) | 13:46 |
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| jasondotstar | ok | 13:49 |
| jasondotstar | we've got a couple reviews up: | 13:49 |
| jasondotstar | #link https://review.openstack.org/304436 - config files to support lvm driver | 13:50 |
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| cznewt | I'm looking over that one | 13:50 |
| jasondotstar | #link https://review.openstack.org/304472 - parameterized mq | 13:50 |
| jasondotstar | cznewt: +1 | 13:50 |
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| cznewt | yes, I'm handling these, but they're stuck in my internal queue :D | 13:51 |
| jasondotstar | cznewt: cool. | 13:51 |
| cznewt | but I'll process them 2day | 13:51 |
| jasondotstar | #topic Open Discussion | 13:51 |
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| cznewt | at the end we'll have full Mitaka support | 13:51 |
| jasondotstar | cznewt: \o/ | 13:51 |
| jasondotstar | ok any last thoughts before we close? | 13:52 |
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| cznewt | about the f5, how we can start the cooperation process? | 13:53 |
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| cznewt | can we setup | 13:54 |
| jasondotstar | I've got a direct contact | 13:54 |
| jasondotstar | with one of their solution architects | 13:54 |
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| cznewt | yes, I'm wandering on how to fit this into the deployment scenarios | 13:54 |
| jasondotstar | we can meet with him directly | 13:54 |
| cznewt | yes, when/where summit? | 13:55 |
| jasondotstar | he will be at summit | 13:55 |
| jasondotstar | I'll introduce you two :-) | 13:55 |
| jasondotstar | we can also have a call w/ them as well. | 13:56 |
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| cznewt | y this would be perfect | 13:57 |
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| jasondotstar | :-) | 13:57 |
| jasondotstar | cool | 13:57 |
| jasondotstar | ok any last thoughts? | 13:58 |
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| cznewt | not for me, I'll send link to presentation to our channel | 13:59 |
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| jasondotstar | +1 | 13:59 |
| jasondotstar | thanks all | 13:59 |
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| jasondotstar | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 12 14:00:00 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_salt/2016/openstack_salt.2016-04-12-13.00.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_salt/2016/openstack_salt.2016-04-12-13.00.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_salt/2016/openstack_salt.2016-04-12-13.00.log.html | 14:00 |
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| EmilienM | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 12 15:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 15:00 |
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| EmilienM | #link agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20160412 | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | o/ | 15:00 |
| iurygregory | o/ | 15:00 |
| xarses | o/ | 15:00 |
| iberezovskiy | hi | 15:00 |
| chem | yo | 15:00 |
| mwhahaha | hi2u | 15:00 |
| degorenko | hi | 15:00 |
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| mkarpin | hi | 15:00 |
| _ody | o/ | 15:00 |
| mjblack | \o/ | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | #topic Review past actions items | 15:01 |
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| EmilienM | EmilienM & chem work on normalize_ip_for_uri function (postponed again) | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | EmilienM needs investigation about kilo support in our modules (postponed again) | 15:01 |
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| EmilienM | regarding the last topic ^ I'm waiting for the Summit and see how it goes with release management | 15:01 |
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| EmilienM | ok, let's start the meeting, we have 2 items and then open discussion | 15:02 |
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| EmilienM | #topic CI status | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI status (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:02 | |
| EmilienM | an update about what is going on currently: | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | _ody and I are trying to deploy integration jobs with Puppet4 | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296557/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304571/3 for ongoing work | 15:03 |
| _ody | They were green a week ago. We are working around a nodepool image issue now with locales being missing. | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | excellent | 15:03 |
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| EmilienM | on my side, I'm working on some SElinux improvmments, to accelerate debug when we have SElinux alerts | 15:04 |
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| EmilienM | some work here: https://review.openstack.org/304614 https://review.openstack.org/304345 and https://review.openstack.org/304338 | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | yesterday, on IRC we discussed about huge console logs | 15:04 |
| chem | yeah, hiera debug is useless | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | sometimes 8MB, which does not help to debug quickly | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | I submitted https://review.openstack.org/304331 to use -vt instead of --debug with puppet CLi | 15:05 |
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| mwhahaha | we should also add some headers to our test scripts so we can see what's upstream infra crud and what's our tests | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | I'm not sure -vt will bring enough feedback, when having bugs with providers & Exec. Any suggestion is welcome | 15:05 |
| richm | hello | 15:05 |
| chem | I would like to keep debug for puppet and remove hiera debug, is that possible ? | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: like the services that we run? | 15:06 |
| mwhahaha | is there something we where if we have those problems we could just raise the level for debuging? | 15:06 |
| mjblack | chem: not possible. puppet overrides the log level in hiera | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: ex: this job deploys nova/cinder/neutron, etc | 15:06 |
| holser_ | o/ | 15:06 |
| mwhahaha | EmilienM: also as a separator so we know where each test part is | 15:06 |
| chem | then verbose for puppet is not that usefull ... | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: can you send a PoC when you have time? | 15:06 |
| mwhahaha | yea | 15:07 |
| chem | maybe we can wrap the stuff around a script that remove hiera debug ? | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | I tested with -vt and logs file now take 800 kb, which is 10 times better | 15:07 |
| mwhahaha | something like we use for fuel ci would be nice, https://ci.fuel-infra.org/job/master.fuel-library.pkgs.ubuntu.neutron_vlan_ha/8498/console | 15:07 |
| chem | (and could we add color output, the bash code are there and jenkins can do it) | 15:07 |
| mwhahaha | where we have like postbuild/cleanup/summary etc | 15:07 |
| mwhahaha | -vt should show enough for most debugging problems | 15:08 |
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| mwhahaha | the providers would need debug but that's why i asked about being able to do something in a review to raise the level | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: what should I see in fuel log? | 15:08 |
| chem | mwhahaha: those are wayyyy nicer log, and you don't need 8Mb of web page download to see it +100 | 15:09 |
| chem | (and maybe color ...) | 15:09 |
| mwhahaha | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5OtQR9m2/Screen%20Shot%202016-04-12%20at%209.09.20%20AM.png | 15:09 |
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| chem | yeah, that would be awesome | 15:10 |
| mwhahaha | some section headers | 15:10 |
| mwhahaha | that's all, i'll work on a PoC | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | nice | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | so should we use -vt? | 15:10 |
| mwhahaha | IMHO we should switch to -vt for now and selectively raise if necessary | 15:10 |
| chem | I say yes, but we remove useless hiera debug by some mean | 15:10 |
| chem | sorry no : I want debug. | 15:11 |
| mjblack | hiera debug? | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | chem: puppet I guess | 15:11 |
| chem | remove hiera debug, keep puppet debug | 15:11 |
| mjblack | if its just the hiera debug, why not grep -v it? | 15:11 |
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| EmilienM | mjblack: there are a lot of things to grep -v, not just one | 15:11 |
| mwhahaha | sounds like we need to investigate more options | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | I tried last night and I had like 4 or 5 potiential occurences | 15:12 |
| chem | ^ correct, let's grep out useless stuff | 15:12 |
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| EmilienM | #action mwhahaha to propose a PoC in puppet-openstack-intragation to have section headers in console | 15:12 |
| mjblack | EmilienM: I know but we can make the grep -v value a regex and add to it as needed | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | mjblack: right | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | who can/want to work on it? | 15:12 |
| chem | mwhahaha: another nice thing to have are the /tmp/puppet_apply_*.pp manifest in the saved file | 15:12 |
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| mjblack | EmilienM: I'll take it on | 15:13 |
| mwhahaha | well those are just sections from the acceptance tests | 15:13 |
| mwhahaha | but we could probably grab them | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | #action mjblack to propose a PoC in puppet-openstack-intragation to filter Hiera debug and keep only Puppet debug | 15:13 |
| chem | well it's better than having go back to the code, IMHO | 15:13 |
| xarses | chem: +1 | 15:14 |
| mattymo | +1 | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | chem: you want fixtures manifest? | 15:14 |
| chem | EmilienM: yes, as retrieving the exact rspec is sometime not that easy, so we can just go and look at the exact manifest in the logs directory | 15:15 |
| chem | (we fetch the /tmp/puppet_apply_<id>.pp and then open it, that's it, that's all) | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | mhh ok | 15:15 |
| xarses | yes, otherwise, I have to load run the baker test to get them | 15:15 |
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| EmilienM | but that's for beaker, right? | 15:16 |
| chem | right | 15:16 |
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| EmilienM | oh right then! +1 | 15:16 |
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| chem | I can take care of this, even If I don't know where to begin :) | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | chem: you take it? | 15:16 |
| chem | yep | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | #action chem to investigate how to show puppet manifests for each beaker test | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | great | 15:17 |
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| EmilienM | one last thing I wanted to share about CI is that i'm trying to disabling EPEL at all | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | it causes some conflicts with RDO packaging | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | so I'm working on it this week. | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | do we have questions / other feedback about CI? | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | let's move on | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | #topic summit | 15:18 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-design-puppet | 15:18 |
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| EmilienM | I sent an email last week about the schedule | 15:19 |
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| EmilienM | so basically, we have 2x40 min in Fishbowl, where we'll give a general project update and try to gather some feedback about last cycle | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | I hope this session will help us to define our plans for Newton, even though we already have some ideas | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | after that, we have 3 workrooms sessions, where I put some topics but it might change. | 15:20 |
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| EmilienM | we'll finish by a Community session | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | shared with Murano folks, (they did not have enough room) | 15:21 |
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| EmilienM | _ody: are you still ok to lead the community session? | 15:21 |
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| EmilienM | someone asked what times are meeting | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | there is a nice website about schedule, let me find link | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Puppet%20OpenStack%3A | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | do we have questions / feedback about summit? | 15:23 |
| _ody | EmilienM: Yeah. | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | _ody: thx | 15:23 |
| bkero | Nice schedule | 15:23 |
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| EmilienM | #topic Open Discussion, Bug and Review triage | 15:24 |
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| iurygregory | the app for the schedule is much better this year =) | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | do we have bugs or reviews to discuss? | 15:24 |
| chem | would like some feedback about multi-domain patch | 15:24 |
| mwhahaha | puppet-ceph ci stuff, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304378/ | 15:25 |
| chem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299301/ | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: +2 | 15:25 |
| mjblack | neutron lbaas v2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301797/ | 15:25 |
| mjblack | zuul was nice to me this time | 15:25 |
| mwhahaha | chem i thought i posted the fuel failure, it's puking on an undef method call | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | chem: have you figured the issue with oslib yet? | 15:25 |
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| chem | EmilienM: no, It's going my end of the day labor | 15:26 |
| EmilienM | mjblack: excellent work here, +2 again | 15:26 |
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| _ody | EmilienM: By community session. You mean the the project update sessions, yes? | 15:26 |
| EmilienM | _ody: nope | 15:26 |
| EmilienM | _ody: on Friday, it's community session, where everyone (not only devs) use to join. | 15:27 |
| iurygregory | https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9432?goback=1 this one i think | 15:27 |
| _ody | ah. Contributors meetup | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | it's usually a good time to talk with community about needs, gather general feedback and also continue the discussion we had during the week | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | yeah | 15:27 |
| _ody | yep. np. | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | _ody: bad wording on my side, sorry | 15:27 |
| iberezovskiy | we have small discussion with degorenko : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298687/7/manifests/db.pp | 15:28 |
| iberezovskiy | do we need to keep connection string validation in the modules? (e.g. I'm not sure that any module except ceilometer supports mongo currently) | 15:28 |
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| EmilienM | also zaqar supports mongo | 15:28 |
| degorenko | also for example sahara doesn't support sqlite | 15:28 |
| mwhahaha | yea for that we should probably keep it there | 15:28 |
| degorenko | so, my suggestion is keep validation for connection string | 15:28 |
| EmilienM | right, if specific, it's ok to keep it there | 15:29 |
| mwhahaha | because it's a service specific limitation | 15:29 |
| degorenko | but remove cases | 15:29 |
| iberezovskiy | good, let's keep | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: ++ | 15:29 |
| iberezovskiy | so, I need to update nova module a bit :) | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | chem: no problem for oslib, I'll try to investigate too but not sure for today :) | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | this work on puppet-oslo is really cool | 15:29 |
| mjblack | would it make sense to have a var in params for supported db backends for each module? | 15:30 |
| chem | EmilienM: ack, it going to be a time looser, for sure :) | 15:30 |
| degorenko | mjblack, not sure that we want to spawn params | 15:30 |
| EmilienM | chem: yeah, I'm trying to clear my backlog first | 15:30 |
| iberezovskiy | can I ask to unblock cookiecutter https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304596/? I wanna switch it to oslo as well :) | 15:30 |
| degorenko | i think just having validate_re function is enough | 15:30 |
| iberezovskiy | and thanks chem again for research | 15:30 |
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| mjblack | degorenko: I was thinking more along the lines that validation of the connection string would be consistent across every module | 15:31 |
| chem | iberezovskiy: np :) | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | iberezovskiy: +A | 15:31 |
| iberezovskiy | EmilienM, thanks | 15:31 |
| degorenko | mjblack, it will not be consistent on every module. Some projects don't support some backends | 15:32 |
| degorenko | but puppet-oslo have all possible backends | 15:32 |
| mwhahaha | well we could have an array of supported backends and just pass it to oslo to formulate the re | 15:32 |
| mwhahaha | seems overly complex for now, but might be something to look into in the future | 15:33 |
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| mwhahaha | lets just get the olso move in place and itterate on it after we complete all the modules | 15:33 |
| mjblack | +1 | 15:33 |
| iurygregory | mwhahaha, ++ | 15:33 |
| iberezovskiy | +1 | 15:33 |
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| EmilienM | +1 with mwhahaha too | 15:34 |
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| EmilienM | ok folks, anything else? | 15:34 |
| iberezovskiy | just to clarify: it's ok to implement oslo::service::ssl define? | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | or oslo::service | 15:35 |
| EmilienM | I don't know enough about oslo.service | 15:35 |
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| iberezovskiy | ok, I'll research | 15:35 |
| iberezovskiy | not sure that all components are using it | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.service/blob/master/oslo_service/_options.py | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | we have a bunch of options | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | just use oslo::service to support them all should be ok | 15:36 |
| iberezovskiy | ok | 15:36 |
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| EmilienM | there is wsgi, ssl, service, periodic, eventlet_backdoor, etc | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | keep it simple maybe | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | anything else? | 15:37 |
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| EmilienM | ok folks! thanks for your time, have fun and eat vegetables. | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 15:37 |
| iberezovskiy | thanks | 15:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 12 15:37:44 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-04-12-15.00.html | 15:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-04-12-15.00.txt | 15:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-04-12-15.00.log.html | 15:37 |
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| chem | yes big up for the vegetables :) | 15:37 |
| iurygregory | lol | 15:38 |
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| sridhar_ram | #startmeeting tacker | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 12 17:01:10 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sridhar_ram. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 17:01 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Roll Call | 17:01 |
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| zeih | o/ | 17:01 |
| dkushwaha | o/ | 17:01 |
| sridhar_ram | who is here? | 17:01 |
| janki_chhatbar | o/ | 17:01 |
| bobh | o/ | 17:01 |
| michael_bredel | o/ | 17:01 |
| vishwanathj__ | o/ | 17:01 |
| sridhar_ram | zeih: howdy, long time ;-) | 17:01 |
| natarajk | o/ | 17:01 |
| sridhar_ram | hello everybody! | 17:01 |
| zeih | sridhar_ram: howdy :) | 17:02 |
| sridhar_ram | lets start.. | 17:02 |
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| sridhar_ram | #topic Agenda | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agenda (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 17:02 | |
| sridhar_ram | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_Apr_12.2C_2016 | 17:02 |
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| sridhar_ram | beyond what is in the agenda, I'd like to touch base w/ michael_bredel on NFV Catalog | 17:03 |
| sridhar_ram | anything else to discuss? | 17:03 |
| trozet | o/ | 17:03 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Annoucements | 17:03 |
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| sridhar_ram | trozet: hi there | 17:03 |
| trozet | sridhar_ram: hi | 17:03 |
| sridhar_ram | Austin Summit is just two weeks away! | 17:04 |
| zeih | sridhar_ram: 5min for architectur Diskussion | 17:04 |
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| sridhar_ram | zeih: sure | 17:04 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Newton Design Summit Planning | 17:05 |
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| sridhar_ram | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-newton-summit | 17:05 |
| sridhar_ram | please look at the above, tentative topic assignments for our design summit session | 17:05 |
| brucet | hello | 17:06 |
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| sridhar_ram | brucet: hi! | 17:06 |
| brucet | In commit hell | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | the format will be similar to other projects.. | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | we will have folks come up to the front to lead the discussion on a specific topic.. | 17:06 |
| michael_bredel | is it possible to attend online? | 17:07 |
| sridhar_ram | .. it is encouraged for "active" participants to come up to the front row | 17:07 |
| sridhar_ram | michael_bredel: I'm not sure if we can pull that off.. | 17:08 |
| sridhar_ram | michael_bredel: .. I sure can try to get a webex session going | 17:08 |
| sridhar_ram | related note, we SHOULD use etherpad and shared edit capable tools - like google docs.. | 17:09 |
| michael_bredel | That would be great - thanks | 17:09 |
| sridhar_ram | any questions on what you see in the etherpad ? | 17:10 |
| sridhar_ram | anything glaringly missing ? | 17:10 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: what would be the duration for BoF? | 17:10 |
| sridhar_ram | 40mins | 17:10 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: ok | 17:11 |
| sridhar_ram | That session is technically not specific to Tacker... | 17:11 |
| sridhar_ram | .. but a general topic on NFV Orchestration | 17:11 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: i see ok | 17:12 |
| sridhar_ram | it is intentionally cross community and cross project, so I've slotted some of those topic in there | 17:12 |
| sridhar_ram | everything looks peachy ? | 17:12 |
| sridhar_ram | I'll push this into the summit schedule.. | 17:12 |
| sridhar_ram | .. we can continue to tweak as we get closer to the summit date | 17:13 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: i guess you have it captured for all topics needed to discuss :-) | 17:13 |
| s3wong | hello. sorry, late | 17:13 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: yeah, heavy agenda! | 17:14 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: hi there | 17:14 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: yup! | 17:14 |
| sridhar_ram | Regarding switch Friday's contributor meetup to AM... no luck getting it switched officially. | 17:14 |
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| sridhar_ram | trading with a project currently slotted in AM looks doubtful.. | 17:14 |
| sridhar_ram | Worst case will find a place after going there and update the schedule / etherpad | 17:15 |
| sridhar_ram | anything else to discuss on Summit ? | 17:15 |
| trozet | sridhar_ram: so what is the current contributor time for Friday? | 17:15 |
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| sridhar_ram | trozet: 3.5hrs | 17:16 |
| sridhar_ram | Friday 2:00pm - 5:30pm | 17:16 |
| sridhar_ram | April 29th | 17:16 |
| trozet | sridhar_ram: thanks | 17:17 |
| sridhar_ram | the plan is to switch to Friday 9:00am - 12:30pm | 17:17 |
| s3wong | I will be at the airport by 2pm (hopefully) :-) | 17:17 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: :) | 17:17 |
| sridhar_ram | moving on.... | 17:18 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic NSD spec | 17:18 |
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| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: can you give a quick update ? | 17:18 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, I have shared nsd support doc at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yMIZMYDHx_QbljSlc4Jsju7YV8b_59voLtbJRPCQf70/edit#heading=h.z6ne0og04bp5 | 17:18 |
| trozet | dkushwaha: i requested access if you could please approve | 17:19 |
| michael_bredel | me too | 17:19 |
| vishwanathj__ | dkushwaha me too | 17:19 |
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| sridhar_ram | folks - hang on, dkushwaha has pushed an equivalent doc in gerrit... lets use that to iterate | 17:19 |
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| dkushwaha | yes, please have a look in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304667/1/specs/newton/nsd-support.rst | 17:20 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: can you also add the sample NSD TOSCA template into this ? | 17:21 |
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| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, yes | 17:22 |
| sridhar_ram | heads - I'm planning to co-author this spec along with dkushwaha | 17:22 |
| trozet | sridhar_ram, dkushwaha: I think this will need to have some basis on the VNFFG spec...I modeled the TOSCA input after part of the NSD | 17:22 |
| sridhar_ram | trozet: totally agree, many things are falling in place now .. bit more naturally ! | 17:23 |
| trozet | sridhar_ram: yeah let just make sure we work together to have a common approach | 17:23 |
| sridhar_ram | there are going to be multiple inter-related specs coming by.. NFV Catalog work including | 17:23 |
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| sridhar_ram | trozet: absolutely... | 17:23 |
| trozet | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292196/3/specs/newton/tacker-vnffg.rst line 158 is the tosca example i came up with...that has some assumptions because NSD isnt currently available (not to de-rail the current topic just FYI) | 17:23 |
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| sridhar_ram | that's the idea, to get all of us share *early* what we are bringing in.. | 17:24 |
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| sridhar_ram | trozet: hold that thought for a sec, lets circle back to that.. | 17:25 |
| trozet | sure | 17:25 |
| sridhar_ram | the scope for NSD is, IMHO, is just to take the next logical step.. to instantiate a sequence of VNFs.. | 17:26 |
| zeih | sridhar_ram: we are facing more and more NFVO specs and implementations in newton. So for me raises the question how to have a defined interface between NFVO and VNFM. :( currently it will all in one servercomponent. Any thoughts on this? Is it possible to Separate NFVO and VNFM? (ETSI like) | 17:26 |
| zeih | Ups.. | 17:27 |
| zeih | Sry | 17:27 |
| sridhar_ram | zeih: that's a fair question... | 17:27 |
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| zeih | Thats my question for Arch discussion | 17:28 |
| sridhar_ram | If you remember our midcycle discussion, I'm in favor of decomposing tacker service into multiple smaller / micro services... | 17:28 |
| zeih | sridhar_ram: yes, | 17:28 |
| sridhar_ram | we sure need to discuss the architecture evolution of Tacker.. | 17:28 |
| sridhar_ram | .. it is a tad related to the technical debt/refactoring ... | 17:29 |
| sridhar_ram | zeih: are you going to be in the summit ? | 17:29 |
| zeih | sridhar_ram: isnt it easier to to this earlier than later? | 17:29 |
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| zeih | sridhar_ram: unfortunately not in Austin | 17:29 |
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| sridhar_ram | zeih: absolutely, however the trade off is we need to pause bringing in new features.. | 17:29 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, I have just added sample nsd tosca template in spec, please have a look | 17:30 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: thanks! | 17:30 |
| zeih | sridhar_ram: I will follow in etherpads | 17:30 |
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| sridhar_ram | either case, I'll try to slot in an arch evolution topic into the summit discussion... | 17:31 |
| zeih | sridhar_ram: cool | 17:31 |
| sridhar_ram | .. perhaps we can find a way to put a target steady state arch.. and chew portions of it using different specs in flight.. | 17:31 |
| sridhar_ram | may be I'm moonlighting :) | 17:31 |
| sripriya | zeih: fyi, with multisite feature we took a first stab at defining that interface between NFVO and VNFM, ofcourse this needs to evolve | 17:32 |
| * sridhar_ram realizes specific agenda doesn't slot well, so... | 17:32 | |
| zeih | sridhar_ram: yes | 17:33 |
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| sridhar_ram | #topic NFV Catalog + NSD + VNFFGD | 17:33 |
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| sridhar_ram | michael_bredel: can you provide a quick update from your side on NFV Catalog evolution ? | 17:34 |
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| sridhar_ram | michael_bredel: are you / your team comfortable to start writing a tacker-spec for it ? | 17:34 |
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| michael_bredel | Sure. Sonata is already working on a catalog implementation for its own system. | 17:34 |
| michael_bredel | We will have a project-internal face-2-face meeting and hackathon next week. | 17:35 |
| michael_bredel | Hope is to have something running after that (includes also an integration with a - simple - sdk ...) | 17:36 |
| michael_bredel | Our NSD is based on ETSI so far - but we already had some interesting discussions on that which you (hopefully) can benefit from | 17:36 |
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| michael_bredel | We are ready to start writing the tacker-spec after the meeting | 17:37 |
| sridhar_ram | michael_bredel: great... | 17:37 |
| sridhar_ram | michael_bredel: your thoughts on NSD would absolutely help here as well | 17:38 |
| sridhar_ram | looking forward you comments on the tacker nsd spec | 17:38 |
| michael_bredel | Sure - I will do that. | 17:38 |
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| sridhar_ram | michael_bredel: thanks! | 17:38 |
| sridhar_ram | lets switch to VNFFG... | 17:39 |
| sridhar_ram | trozet: do you want to share the course correction you are up for ? | 17:39 |
| trozet | sridhar_ram: sure | 17:39 |
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| dkushwaha | michael_bredel, I had stuck some other things in last weeks, so could not discussed with you regarding nsd. | 17:39 |
| trozet | so the original POC for using tacker to do SFC, was creating chains and classifiers directly with OpenDaylight | 17:39 |
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| trozet | that effort kind evolved spec wise into calling into networking-sfc to do chain/classifier creation | 17:40 |
| trozet | with an ODL driver living in networking-odl and called by networking-sfc | 17:40 |
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| trozet | the tacker spec was modified to be vnffg (rather than SFC) but still focused on chain and classifier creation | 17:40 |
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| trozet | I realized its probably much more useful to make it into a real vnffg, so I have re-written the spec to abandon the chain/classifier direct interaction | 17:41 |
| trozet | and instead use TOSCA templates | 17:41 |
| sridhar_ram | woohoo! | 17:41 |
| trozet | so a user defines a VNFFGD, and then creates a VNFFG - which may in turn create many chains and classifiers | 17:41 |
| s3wong | no APIs | 17:41 |
| trozet | by invoking a networking-sfc driver | 17:41 |
| trozet | would appreciate reviews on the spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292196/ | 17:41 |
| trozet | I outline some assumptions about the TOSCA implementation for this effort in the doc | 17:42 |
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| trozet | this also tries to marry the idea of ETSI VNFFG to IETF SFC/NSH | 17:43 |
| trozet | so I have written it with that in mind, and have some NSH related changes in there for VNFM | 17:44 |
| trozet | for supporting some extra parameters | 17:44 |
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| sridhar_ram | trozet: two different worlds - ETSI and IETF colliding thru Tacker :) | 17:45 |
| s3wong | trozet: NSH won't be there (in OVS) until later | 17:45 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: my understanding is, with this new approach, there won't be any APIs to create chains and classifiers...instead there will be new APIs to onboard VNFFGD template and to CRUD vnffg based on those template. trozet is this understanding correct ? | 17:45 |
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| trozet | sridhar_ram: thats correct | 17:45 |
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| sridhar_ram | trozet: thanks! | 17:45 |
| trozet | s3wong: sure but that is outside of our scope | 17:45 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: does this make sense ? do you see any issues ? | 17:45 |
| trozet | s3wong: we already do it in OPNFV, with patches for OVS | 17:45 |
| s3wong | trozet: since we need to use ODL ML2 driver also, we need to know what OVS version would be used by them at Newton timeframe, even if OVS is going to have NSH support (allegedly soon) | 17:45 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: ^^ | 17:46 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: I don't have any problem... I had discussion with trozet last time he raised this point on #tacker channel also | 17:46 |
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| trozet | s3wong: yeah let me clarify that... | 17:46 |
| trozet | this spec doesnt mean you have to use NSH | 17:46 |
| trozet | it should work also with networking-sfc's mpls implementation | 17:47 |
| sridhar_ram | trozet: +1, agree | 17:47 |
| trozet | it just accounts for future NSH parameters encap type | 17:47 |
| trozet | so that when its here, tacker VNFFG will be able to use it | 17:47 |
| s3wong | trozet: I wonder if we would touch NSH at Tacker level, really... | 17:47 |
| trozet | s3wong: its VNFM attributes of a VDU | 17:47 |
| trozet | s3wong: like service type | 17:48 |
| s3wong | trozet: is encap type something that is specified at VNFFG at NFV profile? | 17:48 |
| trozet | s3wong: we need to know if the VNF supports NSH | 17:48 |
| s3wong | trozet: I see | 17:48 |
| s3wong | trozet: sounds very low level... | 17:48 |
| trozet | s3wong: yeah for the virtual links that connects VNFs in the VNFFG, we need to know what encap type they are using to communicate (VXLAN+GPE) etc | 17:48 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: we can extend NFV profile for these needs.. | 17:48 |
| trozet | I feel like Tacker is the place to do this since it knows/manages the VNFs, it shoudl know its properties | 17:50 |
| s3wong | trozet: I see... would be nice if this can be auto-negotiated by the VNFs themselves... but not getting ahead of ourselves here... | 17:50 |
| trozet | rather than networking-sfc or something querying the VNF for the info | 17:50 |
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| s3wong | trozet: networking-sfc API does include specifying the encap type and parameters | 17:50 |
| trozet | s3wong: yeah but im saying i dont think its networking-sfc's job to figure out what VNFs support that | 17:51 |
| trozet | im saying its the VNFM job to hold the info about the VNFs | 17:51 |
| s3wong | trozet: but yeah, I agree... someone needs to specify that somewhere before Tacker can pass that info to networking-sfc | 17:51 |
| trozet | so i think its the appropriate place to list VNF specific attributes | 17:51 |
| sridhar_ram | vnf metadata could be the ideal place for such things | 17:52 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: sure | 17:52 |
| sridhar_ram | trozet: thanks for sharing the changes.. I'm quite ecstatic about this course correction.. this take closer to where we want to go and avoids introducing some APIs with the idea that it would be deprecated ! | 17:52 |
| s3wong | trozet: I generally agree with this --- thinking about value Tacker provides here | 17:52 |
| zeih | sridhar_ram: +1 | 17:52 |
| sridhar_ram | now, back to putting NSD + VNFFGD .. they need to parse / gel well together.. | 17:52 |
| trozet | so I dkushwaha I would be interested in your feedback with respect to the NSD | 17:53 |
| trozet | and michael_bredel | 17:53 |
| s3wong | trozet: if each VNF supports multiple encap types, perhaps Tacker VNFFG can select which one is common across the entire VNFFG | 17:53 |
| sridhar_ram | NSD could just be a "envelope" with pointers to VNFDs and VNFFGDs | 17:53 |
| trozet | s3wong: yeah | 17:53 |
| trozet | s3wong: I have a bunch of features for VNFFG, but going to hold off on those | 17:54 |
| s3wong | trozet: cool | 17:54 |
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| sridhar_ram | trozet: yes, lets pace ourselves...! | 17:54 |
| s3wong | trozet: cool, we can discuss them during the summit | 17:54 |
| trozet | s3wong: one really cool feature I briefly mention, is if a VNFFGD has many paths, we can actually optimize the chains that are created by consolidating common paths into single chains | 17:54 |
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| trozet | s3wong: so the orchestrator can make some intelligent decisions there | 17:54 |
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| s3wong | trozet: sounds cool --- but security policy would have to kick in to ensure we actually CAN do that :-) | 17:55 |
| sridhar_ram | trozet: you are now going into real graph theory ... ! | 17:55 |
| dkushwaha | trozet, yes sure, I wiil look into that | 17:55 |
| sridhar_ram | I'm game.. that's my elective in my undergrad | 17:55 |
| trozet | sridhar_ram: I think what's lacking now is reviews on this, would like to get it through so I can code it | 17:55 |
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| trozet | sridhar_ram: good will need your help then :) | 17:55 |
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| sridhar_ram | anyone else beyond me and s3wong interested in reviewing VNFFG ? | 17:56 |
| zeih | o/ | 17:56 |
| s3wong | trozet: yeah, let's come up with a list of cool stuff we can discuss during the summit --- but of course we need to get the basic stuff done first | 17:56 |
| vishwanathj__ | I would like to get involved to understand, but am no expert though | 17:56 |
| sridhar_ram | it would need some investment in time to understand and ask question.. but SFC is really hot and cool feature | 17:56 |
| janki_chhatbar | o/ | 17:56 |
| natarajk | o/ | 17:57 |
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| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, I would like to review VNFFG | 17:57 |
| sridhar_ram | trozet: there you go.. you got many! | 17:57 |
| trozet | cool :) | 17:57 |
| s3wong | I am holding all these volunteers accountable for actually reviewing the spec :-) | 17:57 |
| sripriya | s3wong: lol | 17:57 |
| sridhar_ram | seriously, just start by asking questions if you don't understand... | 17:58 |
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| sridhar_ram | .. those, sometime, seemingly simple questions expose some design flaws | 17:58 |
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| sridhar_ram | an "outsider" is the ideal candidate for that | 17:58 |
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| sridhar_ram | s3wong: totally.. I need +1s for all these volunteers to land trozet's spec & code | 17:59 |
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| sridhar_ram | times up folks... | 17:59 |
| sridhar_ram | that kinda felt a bit like open-discussion ;-) | 17:59 |
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| s3wong | good discussion, good meeting | 17:59 |
| sridhar_ram | talk to you all next week.. | 17:59 |
| michael_bredel | yep - very interesting! | 17:59 |
| sridhar_ram | bye | 17:59 |
| s3wong | bye | 18:00 |
| sripriya | thanks bye | 18:00 |
| michael_bredel | bye | 18:00 |
| dkushwaha | bye | 18:00 |
| zeih | Next week I will be at plane | 18:00 |
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| zeih | Bye | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | zeih: safe travels | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 12 18:00:15 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-04-12-17.01.html | 18:00 |
| trozet | thanks | 18:00 |
| zeih | Thx | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-04-12-17.01.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-04-12-17.01.log.html | 18:00 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: are we NOT having meeting next week? | 18:00 |
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