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| tfukushima | #startmeeting kuryr | 03:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 5 03:02:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tfukushima. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:02 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 03:02 |
| mspreitz | hi | 03:02 |
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| tfukushima | Hi, I think we have the weekly Kuryr meeting today. | 03:02 |
| mspreitz | that's what my calendar says | 03:02 |
| tfukushima | Who's up for the meeting? | 03:03 |
| mspreitz | o/ | 03:03 |
| tfukushima | Ok, it seems like we are only attendees. | 03:04 |
| tfukushima | #info mspreitz and tfukushima are present | 03:04 |
| mspreitz | then maybe it's a short meeting | 03:04 |
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| tfukushima | Unfortunately we don't have the agenda, so let's focus on the k8s topic. | 03:05 |
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| mspreitz | OK. I have a devref up for review. It's WIP, but I'll take any comments anyone wants to offer now. | 03:06 |
| tfukushima | #topic k8s integration | 03:06 |
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| tfukushima | #info mspreitz submitted his devref and it's ready for the review | 03:06 |
| tfukushima | #link mspreitz's devref https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290172/ | 03:07 |
| fawadkhaliq | hey guys, sorry I am late. | 03:07 |
| tfukushima | Oh, hi fawadkhaliq. Welcome. | 03:07 |
| tfukushima | #info fawadkhaliq is present as well | 03:07 |
| mspreitz | I do have a few discussion questions. | 03:07 |
| tfukushima | mspreitz: Go ahead. | 03:08 |
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| mspreitz | Using an overlay network has this bad effect: it completely bypasses the stuff that kube-proxy does in each host's main network namespace. | 03:08 |
| mspreitz | Leading us to want to put up an alternate service proxying solution. | 03:08 |
| mspreitz | Now the easiest thing to do is create a load balancer in a pod, for each service. | 03:09 |
| mspreitz | That sucks pretty hard. | 03:09 |
| mspreitz | And raises a question: can our alternate service proxy solution set the service's "service cluster IP" to be a pod's pod IP? | 03:09 |
| tfukushima | mspreitz: Even with your proposal and without OVS datapath? | 03:10 |
| mspreitz | I think I am speaking of an issue that applies with any overlay network that eschews the main network namespace of the hosts. | 03:11 |
| tfukushima | I thought the service cluster IP can be a VIP associated with the load balancer and Pod IPs can be managed as the Pool members. | 03:11 |
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| mspreitz | My point is that if we are using an overlay network that avoids the hosts' main network namespace then we have an issue for implementing that VIP | 03:12 |
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| mspreitz | For example, one possible solution is to use a Neutron load balancer. One of those must have its VIP on the same network as the endpoints, right? | 03:12 |
| mspreitz | Or has that changed in recent releases? | 03:13 |
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| tfukushima | The VIP can be the IP address on the different subnet AFAIK. | 03:14 |
| mspreitz | Different subnet but it must be the same network? | 03:14 |
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| tfukushima | mspreitz: I'm not 100% sure but I believe so. | 03:14 |
| mspreitz | Well, my basic question is this: what part of the system is in charge of setting a service's "service cluster IP"? | 03:16 |
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| tfukushima | mspreitz: Usually it's kube-proxy. Ok, I must be missing the problem you're facing. | 03:17 |
| mspreitz | That would be a good answer. My point is that if we are not using the kube-proxy then: can our alternative set the "service cluster IP" and is there any constraint on what that is set to? | 03:18 |
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| tfukushima | So services should be able to be communicated even if they're in the different namespaces? | 03:19 |
| mspreitz | Since we have been assuming that one tenant can have multiple namespaces then yes, there has to be some ability to communicate between namespaces. | 03:19 |
| mspreitz | (but I do not understand the connection to my quesetion) | 03:20 |
| mspreitz | s/quesetion/question/ | 03:20 |
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| tfukushima | So your question was "is there any constraint on what that is set to"? | 03:21 |
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| mspreitz | It's really a two part question. (1) What sets the "service cluster IP" of a service? And, if our alternate proxy can do that, (2) can our alternate set the "service cluster IP" to anything it likes? | 03:21 |
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| mspreitz | fawadkhaliq: would you like some time to get your client under control? | 03:23 |
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| tfukushima | mspreitz: Thanks for your clarification. So in my API watcher proposal, which I would mention later, 1. The API watcher would take care of it and 2. The subnet of service IP needs to be allocated besides the pod subnets. | 03:23 |
| fawadkhaliq | mspreitz: I am sorry. Flaky Internet, can't do much, unfortunately.. | 03:24 |
| mspreitz | by "besides" do you mean (a) it has to be distinct or (b) it has to be somehow alongside or alongwith? | 03:24 |
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| tfukushima | I'd say rather a. | 03:25 |
| mspreitz | tfukushima: are you saying that we can not make an alternate proxy solution that uses a Neutron load balancer whose VIP is on the same subnet as the endpoints? | 03:25 |
| tfukushima | But in the deployment script usually they're declared differently as FLANNEL_NET=172.16.0.0/16 and SERVICE_IP_RANGE=192.168.0.0/24, for instance. | 03:26 |
| mspreitz | I know that | 03:26 |
| mspreitz | but that is only a matter of some existing practice | 03:26 |
| mspreitz | I am asking about what the code requires | 03:26 |
| mspreitz | In fact, you are quoting only some configuration of some stuff we will not use, so its relevance is not obvious. | 03:27 |
| tfukushima | Well, it's the default behaviour, so I thought it could be a good starting point. | 03:28 |
| mspreitz | But, again, that's configuration of stuff (flannel, kube-proxy) that we will not use. | 03:28 |
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| mspreitz | OK, it looks like more progress on this will not happen right now... | 03:29 |
| mspreitz | Let me ask on another front.. | 03:29 |
| mspreitz | I wonder about not using an overlay. But that raises questions about multi-tenancy. How does Calico handle that? | 03:30 |
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| tfukushima | I don't have enough knowledge to say something unfortunately. https://github.com/projectcalico/calico-cni/tree/master/calico_cni | 03:31 |
| mspreitz | fawadkhaliq? | 03:32 |
| fawadkhaliq | I am not sure if Calico handles multi-tenancy.. | 03:32 |
| fawadkhaliq | I know about the general capabilities of Calico though | 03:32 |
| mspreitz | OK, no more progress on that here now. | 03:32 |
| mspreitz | I am done. | 03:32 |
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| tfukushima | #action Everyone reviews mspreitz's devref for k8s translate 1 and 2 | 03:34 |
| tfukushima | Ok, so as I was talking, I wrote the devref for the API watcher. | 03:35 |
| tfukushima | #link the API watcher devref https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301426/ | 03:35 |
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| tfukushima | I should have marked it as WIP and it needs better commit message. | 03:36 |
| tfukushima | Although I'd modify it accordingly, I'd appreciate if you could take a look at it when you have some time. | 03:37 |
| tfukushima | It's not in the perfect shape but I just wanted some feedback kicking the early start off. | 03:37 |
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| mspreitz | There's an implementation too, right? | 03:38 |
| tfukushima | We will make them public when its gets the good shape. | 03:38 |
| tfukushima | Actually we have some bugs and problems :-/ | 03:39 |
| tfukushima | But basically I put necessarily information for the implementation in the devref. | 03:39 |
| mspreitz | Please help me remember. There is some implementation that was up for review recently. | 03:40 |
| tfukushima | Really? I must have missed it. | 03:41 |
| mspreitz | OK, maybe it was something else or from someone else. | 03:42 |
| mspreitz | I haven't seen this devref before, will have to comment on it later. | 03:43 |
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| tfukushima | Anyways please take a look at it if you have any chance. | 03:43 |
| tfukushima | That's it from me. | 03:43 |
| tfukushima | fawadkhaliq: We're having the meeting without any agenda. Do you have anything you want to talk about? | 03:44 |
| fawadkhaliq | tfukushima: not really. Just that we are preparing the content for Austin sessions. | 03:44 |
| fawadkhaliq | thanks | 03:44 |
| tfukushima | Ok, cool. | 03:45 |
| tfukushima | mspreitz: Do you have anything else? If you don't I'd like to end the meeting. | 03:45 |
| mspreitz | I have nothing else. | 03:45 |
| tfukushima | Good. Thank you for attending, guys. Let's discuss on #openstack-kuryr if you found anything. | 03:46 |
| tfukushima | #endmeeting | 03:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 5 03:46:39 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-04-05-03.02.html | 03:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-04-05-03.02.txt | 03:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-04-05-03.02.log.html | 03:46 |
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| jasondotstar | #startmeeting openstack-salt | 13:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 5 13:02:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jasondotstar. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-salt)" | 13:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_salt' | 13:02 |
| jasondotstar | #topic roll call | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: openstack-salt)" | 13:02 | |
| jasondotstar | o/ | 13:02 |
| cznewt | o/ | 13:02 |
| cznewt | hello | 13:02 |
| jasondotstar | hi cznewt | 13:02 |
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| jasondotstar | what's new? :-) | 13:03 |
| cznewt | we have good news :) | 13:03 |
| jasondotstar | oh nice | 13:03 |
| cznewt | dvr support in review process | 13:03 |
| jasondotstar | \o/ | 13:03 |
| jasondotstar | who else we got? | 13:04 |
| cznewt | and bird of feather has been accepted | 13:04 |
| jasondotstar | niiiiiice | 13:04 |
| cznewt | yes :) | 13:05 |
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| jasondotstar | ok I just pinged the rest of the team, hopefully they will show | 13:05 |
| jasondotstar | #topic Introduction | 13:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Introduction (Meeting topic: openstack-salt)" | 13:06 | |
| jasondotstar | this meeting is for the openstack-salt team | 13:06 |
| jasondotstar | if you're interested in contributing to the discussion, please join #openstack-salt | 13:06 |
| jasondotstar | meetings are Weekly on Tuesdays at 1300UTC | 13:06 |
| jasondotstar | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#OpenStack_Salt_Team_Meeting | 13:06 |
| jasondotstar | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-salt | 13:06 |
| jasondotstar | #topic Review past action items | 13:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review past action items (Meeting topic: openstack-salt)" | 13:07 | |
| jasondotstar | is genunix around today? | 13:07 |
| liqw | o/ | 13:07 |
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| jasondotstar | ohai liqw | 13:08 |
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| cznewt | so let's move to agenda from past? | 13:09 |
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| jasondotstar | we don't have genunix yet, but is there anyone who can speak to this: | 13:09 |
| jasondotstar | genunix to start the RPM packaging spec | 13:09 |
| jasondotstar | if not, we'll move on | 13:09 |
| jasondotstar | jasondotstar to reach out to dirk (RPM-packaging team) to discuss RPM packaging | 13:10 |
| cznewt | he's away today | 13:10 |
| jasondotstar | cznewt: ack. | 13:10 |
| jasondotstar | so I reached out to dirk and Igor from the RPM-packaging team | 13:10 |
| jasondotstar | we are going to have a short meeting today to discuss RPM packaging. this should give us the info we need to write up a spec | 13:11 |
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| jasondotstar | well, let's step back a sec | 13:24 |
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| jasondotstar | i think you're saying that we need to use salt to stand up multiple interconnected services | 13:24 |
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| jasondotstar | and do end-to-end tests | 13:24 |
| cznewt | yes | 13:24 |
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| jasondotstar | to ensure that all our formulas work in concert, right? | 13:24 |
| cznewt | yes, pretty much | 13:25 |
| jasondotstar | right, ok | 13:25 |
| jasondotstar | so I think there's a facility for that where nodepool is involved | 13:25 |
| cznewt | basically we have salt orchestration which shlould bring the services up in right order | 13:25 |
| jasondotstar | right | 13:25 |
| jasondotstar | i can follow up on this | 13:26 |
| cznewt | but the actual scenario testing and result evaluation is not clear on how to do | 13:26 |
| cznewt | basically we need more than "services are running" | 13:26 |
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| jasondotstar | cznewt: agreed | 13:27 |
| cznewt | but to be able to create net/server/volume | 13:27 |
| jasondotstar | spawn infra | 13:27 |
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| cznewt | and if this work, we can mark it success | 13:27 |
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| jasondotstar | spawn resources i should say | 13:27 |
| jasondotstar | I gotcha | 13:27 |
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| jasondotstar | #action jasondotstar to follow up on how we run integration/functional tests that incorporate multi-node services | 13:28 |
| cznewt | +1 | 13:28 |
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| jasondotstar | ok let's move on | 13:28 |
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| jasondotstar | cznewt to follow up on DVR networking and the neutron salt formula with OVS support | 13:29 |
| cznewt | yes this has been contributed by wondra | 13:29 |
| jasondotstar | excellent! | 13:29 |
| cznewt | wondra: can you tell some more things about the implementation? | 13:30 |
| wondra | Frankly? The base is probably yours from Icehouse time. | 13:30 |
| wondra | I just updated it, tested, added DVR parameters. | 13:30 |
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| wondra | There are a few bugfixes and I renamed bridge and switch to compute and network, because it was highly confising. | 13:31 |
| cznewt | yes, I'm thinking on how to create new test-lab with this network setup | 13:32 |
| wondra | About the reviews.. I don't really know what the package fuel-utils does. I just copied it. I actually think it is obsolete. | 13:32 |
| jasondotstar | is there a review to look at on this? | 13:33 |
| wondra | And about the testing. How exactly does the test infrastructure work now? I read in the docs that it spins up some VM, but what does it do then? | 13:33 |
| wondra | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300725/2 | 13:33 |
| cznewt | this package is not required | 13:33 |
| wondra | OK, will delete. | 13:33 |
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| cznewt | and generally no packages in formulas | 13:33 |
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| jasondotstar | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300725/2 | 13:34 |
| cznewt | we can d | 13:35 |
| cznewt | o review comments at the end of session | 13:35 |
| cznewt | there are 2 points I'd like to go over first | 13:35 |
| cznewt | regarding the summit and propagation of our effort | 13:36 |
| jasondotstar | ok | 13:36 |
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| cznewt | 1. bird of feather talk https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9449?goback=1 | 13:38 |
| cznewt | it will be about real life experience, but i'd like to empasise on how to join us | 13:39 |
| cznewt | the benefits of our solution over the competition etc :) | 13:39 |
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| cznewt | I'd make the presentation shareable to the rest of the team | 13:40 |
| jasondotstar | yes | 13:40 |
| jasondotstar | that's awesome | 13:40 |
| jasondotstar | +1 | 13:40 |
| jasondotstar | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9449?goback=1 | 13:40 |
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| jasondotstar | we certainly want to bring up what makes us different | 13:41 |
| cznewt | Ok can you give me action to prepare the presentation doc | 13:42 |
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| jasondotstar | sure thing | 13:42 |
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| jasondotstar | #action cznewt to prepare the BoF session presentation slide for review with the team | 13:43 |
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| jasondotstar | #action cznewt to prepare the BoF session presentation slides for review with the team | 13:43 |
| jasondotstar | cznewt: there was a second item? | 13:44 |
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| cznewt | yes it's the vendor involvement | 13:45 |
| cznewt | if to gather them to BoF presentation | 13:45 |
| cznewt | to give them some reason to come/contribute | 13:46 |
| cznewt | to this presentation | 13:46 |
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| jasondotstar | are there specific vendors you want to target? | 13:46 |
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| cznewt | sdn/disk | 13:48 |
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| cznewt | vendors, to integrate their backends | 13:48 |
| cznewt | if they were to be summoned to BoF talk, there should be part in how to integrate new things | 13:48 |
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| jasondotstar | +1 | 13:49 |
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| cznewt | this is the main question whether to direct them to BoF or make some informal meeting on integration | 13:49 |
| cznewt | or make the integration part of BoF | 13:49 |
| jasondotstar | the BoF is like a kickoff | 13:49 |
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| jasondotstar | i'd think | 13:52 |
| jasondotstar | we invite them there | 13:52 |
| jasondotstar | and have them hear what we have to offer | 13:53 |
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| jasondotstar | but an informal meeting might work too.... something to think about | 13:53 |
| jasondotstar | something we can talk about more in chan | 13:53 |
| cznewt | ok, agreed, we can tell them more at end BoF and if there's demand we'll make informal meeting | 13:54 |
| jasondotstar | +1 | 13:54 |
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| jasondotstar | ok final 5 minutes | 13:54 |
| jasondotstar | #topic Open Discussion | 13:54 |
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| cznewt | now to the dvr stuff | 13:54 |
| jasondotstar | any other items to bring up | 13:54 |
| jasondotstar | yes, let's finish up with that | 13:54 |
| cznewt | yes and the test labs | 13:54 |
| jasondotstar | go for it | 13:54 |
| cznewt | we have ubu/rh dvr/contrail single/cluster | 13:54 |
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| cznewt | this is 2x2x2 - 8 possible solutions | 13:55 |
| cznewt | setups | 13:55 |
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| cznewt | how to manage this | 13:55 |
| cznewt | if we add any more it goes to 16...32 :) | 13:55 |
| cznewt | possible setups | 13:55 |
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| cznewt | how to choose what setups to support | 13:56 |
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| jasondotstar | hmmmmmmmm | 13:57 |
| jasondotstar | good point | 13:57 |
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| wondra | Crazy idea - do it in serial on a btrfs filesystem with snapshots. In testing the setups, you always change 1 option, so the snapshots will form a binary tree :-) | 13:57 |
| cznewt | :) | 13:58 |
| jasondotstar | :-) | 13:58 |
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| cznewt | time is running up, we can discuss in our channel this, I'd like to get to some resolution as I want to setup at least the dvr/ubuntu single/cluster for start | 13:59 |
| jasondotstar | something for us to think about | 13:59 |
| jasondotstar | +1 | 14:00 |
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| jasondotstar | thanks guys | 14:00 |
| jasondotstar | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 5 14:00:08 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_salt/2016/openstack_salt.2016-04-05-13.02.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_salt/2016/openstack_salt.2016-04-05-13.02.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_salt/2016/openstack_salt.2016-04-05-13.02.log.html | 14:00 |
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| blogan | hi | 14:00 |
| xiaohhui | hi | 14:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | hi | 14:01 |
| mlavalle | hi | 14:01 |
| reedip__ | o/ | 14:01 |
| carl_baldwin | Sorry, laptop dropped off the network momentarily. | 14:01 |
| carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron_routed_networks | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 5 14:01:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-Routed-Networks | 14:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | Let's see. I think the basic segment API is ready to merge. | 14:02 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296603/ | 14:02 |
| carl_baldwin | I hope to get someone to merge it today. | 14:02 |
| carl_baldwin | Any other announcements? | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | Just to mention the summit | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | it's 3 weeks away | 14:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | Yep! Coming fast. | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | We have some sessions relevant to this effort there | 14:03 |
| carl_baldwin | I see some feedback from armax on the API patch. I'll address it early this morning. | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | Specifically on Wednesday, discussion with the Nova team | 14:04 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Do you know the specific time / session? | 14:04 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: no, but I intend to follow up with mreidem to make sure we have good coverage | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | I'll update this team next week during this meeting | 14:05 |
| carl_baldwin | The Nova sessions on the schedule still say "tbd" | 14:05 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thanks for following up on that. Hopefully, next week we'll know. | 14:06 |
| carl_baldwin | Any other announcements? | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | yeah, I am passing along what was commented yesterday during the scheduler meeting :-) | 14:06 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Progress | 14:06 |
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| carl_baldwin | The basic CRUD patches are pretty much ready. So, nothing to report on that. | 14:07 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Associate Subnets to Segments and IPAM | 14:07 |
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| carl_baldwin | I'm wrapping up UTs on a patch to allow association of subnets to segments. It should be ready to go by early tomorrow. | 14:08 |
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| carl_baldwin | The next part is IPAM related. My plan is to have a patch for pluggable IPAM up for review by the end of the week. | 14:09 |
| carl_baldwin | The idea will be to push some concept of grouping down in to the pluggable driver so that drivers can optionally optimize queries based on groups of subnets (by network, by segment, etc.) | 14:10 |
| carl_baldwin | It will still work with existing IPAM drivers. | 14:10 |
| carl_baldwin | That's about it. | 14:10 |
| blogan | i look forward to it | 14:11 |
| ski2 | hey carl_baldwin: anything we can help on? | 14:11 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will post review for pluggable IPAM this week. | 14:11 |
| carl_baldwin | ski2: At the moment, I just need to get the first patch up for the IPAM part. | 14:12 |
| carl_baldwin | From there, it would be nice to have someone actually running the patches on their own to see what testing I may have missed and getting familiar with it. | 14:12 |
| ski2 | carl_baldwin: did you want us to take it and run with it after you post? | 14:12 |
| ski2 | carl_baldwin: sure thing, once you post we'll take it on | 14:13 |
| carl_baldwin | ski2: Thanks, we'll communicate once I've got it up. | 14:13 |
| carl_baldwin | I'll push really hard to get it up by the end of the week. | 14:14 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic Nova Scheduler | 14:15 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: you're up. | 14:15 |
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| mlavalle | So I posted a new approach to handle the coordination between Nova and Neutron in the spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263898/ | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | It refers specifically on how to reduce the complexity of handling use case 3 (port created in neutron with ip address) | 14:16 |
| mlavalle | I brought it up yesterday during the Nova scheduler meeting | 14:17 |
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| mlavalle | No specific feedback | 14:17 |
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| mlavalle | so if carl_baldwin has some time, I would like to see his reaction to it | 14:17 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I'm hoping we can still get that high bandwidth discussion with jaypipes and hopefully others soon. | 14:18 |
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| mlavalle | yeah, me too. I can follow up with him | 14:18 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I read it over yesterday but I need to read it over again. I'll point out some things on the review today. | 14:18 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I need to read it over one more time to be sure I understood. | 14:18 |
| mlavalle | ping me if at any time if you have questions | 14:19 |
| carl_baldwin | My initial reaction was that it could lead to more nova boot failures than they may want. | 14:19 |
| blogan | i need to read it over 50 more times :) | 14:19 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will comment on mlavalle 's approach on the nova spec. | 14:20 |
| mlavalle | The other thing I've been looking at is in re-thinking where we need to make the calls to Neutron in the Nova code | 14:20 |
| carl_baldwin | I encourage all to read it too. | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | I think we need to move that from the compute manager to the scheduler manager | 14:21 |
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| mlavalle | I mentioned this briefly last week to carl_baldwin | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | I will elaborate that this week | 14:21 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: What is the motivation for that? Would Nova be making calls to Neutron during scheduling? | 14:22 |
| mlavalle | Nova now to make the decision of where to place a port based on IP availability in segments | 14:23 |
| mlavalle | has to make^^^ | 14:23 |
| mlavalle | this doesn't mean we need to touch the Neutron API inside Nova. It means we need to call it from a diferent place | 14:24 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: One thing I do know is that it is *very* important to nova that it not have to make external calls during scheduling. I tend to agree with them. | 14:25 |
| mlavalle | ok, i'll take that into consideration | 14:25 |
| mlavalle | it's something I've been thinking of and just wanted to shre it here | 14:26 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: understood. | 14:26 |
| mlavalle | that's all I have on this topic this week | 14:26 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thanks. | 14:26 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Create / delete segment in ML2 | 14:27 |
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| xiaohhui | I see it is still no owner, right? | 14:27 |
| carl_baldwin | This one still has no owner. I think we're going to need someone pretty familiar with ML2. | 14:27 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: correct. | 14:27 |
| xiaohhui | I will be full back to work this week, I think I can do that. | 14:27 |
| carl_baldwin | I talked to rkukura about this a bit last week. He said that it was always the intention to enable create and delete of segments on an existing network. It was just never implemented. It sounded feasible. | 14:28 |
| carl_baldwin | Anyway, we'll keep this one on the back burner and continue to search for an owner. We might be able to use the summit to find support. | 14:29 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will add it to the summit etherpad | 14:30 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: your message came in late for me. | 14:30 |
| xiaohhui | bad network~ | 14:31 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: :) | 14:31 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: will that be difficult with the OVN work you're also doing? | 14:31 |
| xiaohhui | I think they might be related, so I would to look them both, together. | 14:32 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: It will be good to get a good start on this. | 14:32 |
| xiaohhui | yeah, I do think so | 14:32 |
| carl_baldwin | It can follow https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296658/ which I intend to rebase and get in to shape as soon as the preceding one merges. | 14:33 |
| carl_baldwin | That one should merge pretty quickly too I should think. | 14:34 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: Thanks! | 14:34 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Segment aware DHCP | 14:34 |
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| carl_baldwin | blogan talked to me yesterday about this. | 14:34 |
| carl_baldwin | blogan: hi | 14:34 |
| blogan | hello! | 14:35 |
| blogan | but yeah i'll certianly take this on, its definitely a knowledge gap for me but it'll be a good learning exercise even if i fall flat on my face | 14:35 |
| carl_baldwin | blogan: You should be able to get a start on this once you can associate subnets with segments. I have that patch *almost* ready to update. | 14:37 |
| blogan | okay ill start on top of that patch then | 14:37 |
| carl_baldwin | blogan: I'll reach out as soon as I get that one posted. | 14:38 |
| blogan | carl_baldwin: excellent, thanks! | 14:38 |
| carl_baldwin | blogan: Thank you! | 14:38 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Client | 14:38 |
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| carl_baldwin | rtheis: reedip__ : hi | 14:39 |
| rtheis | hi | 14:39 |
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| reedip__ | hello .. | 14:39 |
| carl_baldwin | Anything to discuss? | 14:40 |
| reedip__ | I have some issues with the neutron tests, and have fallen back on the name/desc patch | 14:40 |
| reedip__ | I will spend tomorrow to see what the problem is... | 14:40 |
| reedip__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293305/ | 14:41 |
| carl_baldwin | reedip__: That patch keeps falling off my radar. I think it is because the topic is not "bp/routed-networks" | 14:41 |
| reedip__ | cant figure out the error properly.. carl_baldwin: Yeah, rtheis suggested the same | 14:42 |
| rtheis | Working devref update for newton (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299399/)... CLI ready once APIs are | 14:42 |
| carl_baldwin | rtheis: Thanks. I'll have a look at that devref too. | 14:43 |
| rtheis | carl_baldwin: but it sounds like we won't want entire CLI CRUD since things are coming in stages on API side | 14:43 |
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| rtheis | maybe I'll break up my patches to match API | 14:43 |
| rtheis | nothing else to report fromme | 14:44 |
| carl_baldwin | rtheis: that might be good. It is always strange to have an API land before the capability lands. | 14:44 |
| rtheis | :) | 14:44 |
| carl_baldwin | reedip__: I'll have a look at your patch too. | 14:44 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks. Anything else to discuss? | 14:45 |
| rtheis | nothing else | 14:45 |
| carl_baldwin | rtheis: reedip__ Thanks. | 14:45 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic L2 adjacency | 14:46 |
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| reedip__ | carl_baldwin : Nothing else.. I think however, you have a patch for associating segments as well ? | 14:46 |
| carl_baldwin | #undo | 14:46 |
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| carl_baldwin | reedip__: Yes, I've committed to getting that patch updated by early tomorrow. | 14:46 |
| reedip__ | ok | 14:46 |
| carl_baldwin | reedip__: It'll be an update to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288774/ which is now very old but I have new stuff locally. | 14:47 |
| reedip__ | carl_baldwin: ok... | 14:47 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic L2 adjacency | 14:47 |
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| carl_baldwin | This'll be a pretty straight-forward task, I think. | 14:48 |
| carl_baldwin | Basically, just add a read-only attribute to the extension to return true or false based on the network. | 14:48 |
| carl_baldwin | It has no owner so I wanted to throw it out there. | 14:49 |
| carl_baldwin | That's all. | 14:49 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Open Agenda | 14:49 |
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| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: Actually did you have anything regarding OVN to discuss? | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: are we going to discuss segments host mapping? | 14:49 |
| xiaohhui | yeah,, I talked with russellb a little earlier. The code for ovs ovn has been implemented. Now the bridge-mapping and hostname can be found in OVN db. I will add some code in networking-ovn to read them out and use them for routed network. I had some personal affairs in the last two weeks, so I have to say sorry that I still have these in mind, not a patch for them now. I will try my best to post a patch in this week. | 14:50 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Is that missing from the agenda? Oops. | 14:50 |
| ski2 | carl_baldwin: we can take the l2 adjacency as well | 14:50 |
| russellb | \o/ | 14:50 |
| reedip__ | carl_baldwin: can take up L2 adjacency, should help me understand a bit more ... | 14:50 |
| carl_baldwin | reedip__: ping me about it. | 14:50 |
| russellb | xiaohhui: thanks again | 14:50 |
| russellb | xiaohhui: no worries on delays ... i needed some time to implement those pieces in OVN | 14:50 |
| carl_baldwin | reedip__: ski2: Actually ski2 was in there first. | 14:51 |
| russellb | xiaohhui: and please let me know if you hit anything else that's needed | 14:51 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: Sounds like good progress. | 14:51 |
| reedip__ | ski2: can I help ?? | 14:51 |
| xiaohhui | sure, thanks russellb | 14:52 |
| carl_baldwin | russellb: Thanks for getting to that stuff so quickly. | 14:52 |
| russellb | no problem | 14:52 |
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| carl_baldwin | ski2: Can we discuss in the neutron channel later? | 14:53 |
| ski2 | reedip__: if you want to take it, be my guest :) | 14:53 |
| ski2 | sure thing | 14:53 |
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| reedip__ | ski2: thanks ... :) | 14:54 |
| carl_baldwin | Anything else? | 14:54 |
| xiaohhui | And this patch might need some attention https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295173/ it is just a clean up patch, no functionality | 14:54 |
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| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: I'll review. Thanks! | 14:55 |
| xiaohhui | thank you, nothing else from me | 14:55 |
| carl_baldwin | If that's it... | 14:55 |
| carl_baldwin | going once | 14:55 |
| carl_baldwin | twice... | 14:55 |
| carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 14:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 5 14:55:55 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_routed_networks/2016/neutron_routed_networks.2016-04-05-14.01.html | 14:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_routed_networks/2016/neutron_routed_networks.2016-04-05-14.01.txt | 14:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_routed_networks/2016/neutron_routed_networks.2016-04-05-14.01.log.html | 14:56 |
| blogan | good day | 14:56 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks everyone! | 14:56 |
| mlavalle | thanks | 14:56 |
| xiaohhui | bye~ | 14:56 |
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| carl_baldwin | You're all awesome! | 14:56 |
| reedip__ | :) | 14:56 |
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| degorenko | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 5 15:00:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is degorenko. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| degorenko | #link agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20160405 | 15:00 |
| degorenko | hey o/ | 15:00 |
| mwhahaha | hi2u | 15:00 |
| iberezovskiy | hi | 15:00 |
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| skolekonov | hi | 15:00 |
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| degorenko | #topic Review past actions items | 15:00 |
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| degorenko | EmilienM & chem work on normalize_ip_for_uri function | 15:00 |
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| degorenko | as i know - there is no progress | 15:01 |
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| degorenko | chem ping :) | 15:01 |
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| degorenko | ok, then postpone it | 15:01 |
| degorenko | #action EmilienM & chem work on normalize_ip_for_uri function (postponed) | 15:01 |
| degorenko | EmilienM to investigate stable_follows-policy tag requirements and investigate about Kilo support | 15:01 |
| degorenko | first part to investigate stable_follows-policy tag requirements - in progress | 15:01 |
| degorenko | patch is on review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297382/ | 15:02 |
| degorenko | and waiting for Newton cycle | 15:02 |
| degorenko | second part - AFAIK is not started so should be postponed | 15:02 |
| degorenko | #action EmilienM need investigation about kilo support in our modules (postponed) | 15:02 |
| degorenko | #topic Fuel/Puppet-openstack integration summit topics | 15:02 |
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| degorenko | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-puppet-openstack-summit-topics | 15:02 |
| degorenko | mwhahaha, hey o/ | 15:02 |
| holser_ | hey o/ | 15:02 |
| mwhahaha | Hey everyone, so we've got a summit slot scheduled for fuel/puppet-openstack integration topics. | 15:03 |
| mwhahaha | I've put together a starting list of ideas for things that includes expanding Fuel CI and possibly sharing some of the modules that currently live in fuel-library. | 15:03 |
| mwhahaha | Please review feel free to add some additional topics of feedback. | 15:03 |
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| richm | hello | 15:03 |
| mwhahaha | also i think we have some open slots for puppet-openstack that if anyone wants to talk about stuff we can use as well | 15:03 |
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| degorenko | that's good idea | 15:03 |
| mwhahaha | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-design-puppet | 15:03 |
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| mwhahaha | that's all i've got | 15:04 |
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| degorenko | some of modules that can be shared can be placed under existing modules, for example sahara_templates | 15:04 |
| degorenko | ok, thank you | 15:04 |
| mwhahaha | yea i think that's a prime one to upstream | 15:04 |
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| degorenko | ok, moving on | 15:05 |
| degorenko | #topic moving to puppet-oslo | 15:05 |
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| degorenko | we are planning to switch some parameters from native modules classes to puppet-oslo | 15:05 |
| degorenko | so, should we keep all converting/checks and etc in old place? | 15:05 |
| degorenko | or it should be moved to puppet-oslo too? | 15:05 |
| degorenko | for example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298702/ | 15:05 |
| degorenko | any ideas folks? | 15:06 |
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| degorenko | as i see now, some modules have different format of these parameters | 15:06 |
| mwhahaha | probably should move them | 15:06 |
| iberezovskiy | oslo defines should take care of converting, other modules should just pass parameters | 15:06 |
| xarses | o/ | 15:07 |
| degorenko | yeah, that's ok to me, we don't break anything, just pass parameters to puppet-oslo | 15:07 |
| degorenko | #topic Open Discussion, Bug and Review triage (submit modules to triage here) | 15:08 |
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| degorenko | if you have any questions, review requests, raise your hand :) | 15:08 |
| mwhahaha | a quiet meeting today | 15:09 |
| xarses | yes | 15:09 |
| degorenko | ok, i will close meeting in 30 seconds if nothing came up | 15:10 |
| degorenko | thanks everyone, have a good day | 15:10 |
| degorenko | #endmeeting | 15:10 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 5 15:10:45 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:10 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-04-05-15.00.html | 15:10 |
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| sridhar_ram | #startmeeting tacker | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 5 17:00:49 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sridhar_ram. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 17:00 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Roll Call | 17:01 |
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| vishwanathj | o/ | 17:01 |
| sridhar_ram | who is here ? | 17:01 |
| tbh | o/ | 17:01 |
| brucet | Si | 17:01 |
| s3wong | o/ | 17:01 |
| sripriya | o/ | 17:01 |
| brucet | Yo hablar espanol Oy. | 17:01 |
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| bobh_ | o/ | 17:01 |
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| sridhar_ram | howdy all ! | 17:01 |
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| sridhar_ram | brucet: buenos dÃas ! | 17:02 |
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| LouisF | hi | 17:02 |
| sridhar_ram | lets start... | 17:02 |
| brucet | OK english | 17:02 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Agenda | 17:02 |
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| janki_chhatbar | o/ | 17:02 |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_Apr_5.2C_2016 | 17:02 |
| sridhar_ram | I hope to have some open discussions today .. it is been a while! | 17:03 |
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| sridhar_ram | janki_chhatbar: hi | 17:03 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Announcements | 17:03 |
| janki_chhatbar | sridhar_ram: hi | 17:03 |
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| sridhar_ram | #success first official release of Tacker 0.3.0 for Mitaka is released ! | 17:03 |
| openstackstatus | sridhar_ram: Added success to Success page | 17:03 |
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| sridhar_ram | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2016-March/001052.html | 17:03 |
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| sridhar_ram | Tacker Mitaka release is out .. squeezed on the last day of the deadline! | 17:04 |
| sridhar_ram | Congratulations team.. ! | 17:04 |
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| sripriya | congrats everyone! | 17:04 |
| sridhar_ram | Many of you pulled in hard across the board to make this happen ... | 17:05 |
| janki_chhatbar | congratulations to all!! | 17:05 |
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| sridhar_ram | we pulled in 2-weeks ahead due to big tent... didn't drop any features, which is awesome | 17:06 |
| s3wong | didn't even know about #success :-) | 17:06 |
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| sripriya | +1 | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: yeah, significant milestones can be called out.. it will go out in the weekly newsletter :) | 17:06 |
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| sridhar_ram | We are officially starting Newton now.. | 17:07 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: yeah, I vaguely remember someone mentioning that on ML :-) | 17:07 |
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| sridhar_ram | #topic Mitaka Docs | 17:08 |
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| sridhar_ram | We need to cut over to use official openstack documentation repo for Tacker... | 17:09 |
| brucet | <sridar_ram> I'm almost done with 1st cut of arch section | 17:09 |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals | 17:10 |
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| sridhar_ram | brucet: cool.. | 17:10 |
| brucet | should I just check it in or send to you first?? | 17:10 |
| sridhar_ram | for arch guide I think we should still keep in the tacker repo.. | 17:10 |
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| sridhar_ram | here is the split .. some docs will continue to live in tacker repo .. | 17:11 |
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| sridhar_ram | .. for near term | 17:11 |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://github.com/openstack/tacker/tree/master/doc/source | 17:11 |
| brucet | I thought it was supposed to go in docs | 17:11 |
| brucet | That's where I have it | 17:11 |
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| sridhar_ram | openstack-manuals work is new for this team.. unless someone here has already done it.. anyone ? | 17:12 |
| brucet | Wait I have it in tacker/doc | 17:12 |
| sridhar_ram | assuming no, I'd suggest the tippy toeing into the world of openstack-manuals in the following order: | 17:12 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: i happened to commit to openstack-manuals sometime back, their dev steps are straight forward to follow | 17:13 |
| sridhar_ram | transition Tacker Install guide to openstack-manuals ... | 17:13 |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/master/doc/install-guide | 17:13 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: one thing learnt, we do not edit html files directly, but there are xml files we need to edit and generate the docs | 17:13 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: that's cool.. however if there are volunteers you can guide them as well | 17:13 |
| brucet | I'm confused. I saw a doc directory directly under tacker | 17:14 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: sure | 17:14 |
| brucet | The source there builds the OpenStack documentation you pointed to last week | 17:15 |
| brucet | It has install, policies, devref | 17:15 |
| brucet | I added arch to it | 17:15 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: all: my proposal is at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-docs-manuals | 17:15 |
| brucet | Not correct? | 17:15 |
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| sridhar_ram | brucet: the confusion is understandable.. let me explain.. | 17:16 |
| * sridhar_ram expects sripriya to correct as needed | 17:16 | |
| sridhar_ram | there are two places to host a project documentation in openstack... | 17:16 |
| sridhar_ram | 1) in the project repository itself .. <project>/doc/source | 17:17 |
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| sridhar_ram | this is typically used to host developer docs and at times even other feature documentation... | 17:17 |
| sridhar_ram | 2) openstack-manuals repo | 17:17 |
| brucet | OK. Got it | 17:17 |
| sridhar_ram | this is a separate repo, geared towards openstack as a whole | 17:17 |
| brucet | Arch is under Tacker repo | 17:18 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: yep.. atleast for now | 17:18 |
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| brucet | OK. That's where I have it. All good | 17:18 |
| * sridhar_ram is editing https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-docs-manuals | 17:19 | |
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| sridhar_ram | whoever volunteered to do doc work for tacker .. please update the above etherpad | 17:20 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: updated the API ref guide link in etherpad | 17:20 |
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| sridhar_ram | sripriya: thanks! | 17:21 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: we can contribute Tacker chapters to api-guide official repo and point to it from our developer docs for API reference | 17:21 |
| sridhar_ram | janki_chhatbar: you took up TOSCA VNFD template documentation ? can you please update the etherpad ? | 17:21 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: yes, that should work... | 17:22 |
| janki_chhatbar | sridhar_ram: yes sure | 17:22 |
| sridhar_ram | here is my overall take some effort to transition to openstack-manuals.. we will do it alongside over the Newton cycle.. | 17:22 |
| sridhar_ram | we can start w/ install-guide transition.. | 17:23 |
| sridhar_ram | meanwhile, we also need to document the features that came in Mitaka .. for users to consume it effectively.. | 17:23 |
| sridhar_ram | I thought tacker repo doc is easier / faster to get them in.. | 17:23 |
| sridhar_ram | what you all think ? | 17:23 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: are you planning to add a document for EPA / SR-IOV features ? | 17:24 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: +1 | 17:24 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: thanks for the ack ! | 17:25 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: so usage guide will be under tacker repo doc for now right? | 17:25 |
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| vishwanathj | sridhar_ram, Yes, there will be some relate to EPA/ SR-IOV | 17:26 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: bobh_: can you please guide janki_chhatbar as she documents TOSCA VNFD with tosca parser based features ? | 17:26 |
| bobh_ | sridhar_ram: no problem | 17:26 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, sure | 17:26 |
| janki_chhatbar | sridhar_ram: tbh: bobh: thanks very much | 17:26 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: can you please add an entry to the etherpad ! | 17:26 |
| vishwanathj | ok | 17:26 |
| vishwanathj | done | 17:27 |
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| sridhar_ram | sripriya: ack to your previous question... usage / feature guide stays in tacker repo for now | 17:27 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: thanks | 17:28 |
| sridhar_ram | vertical guides - like install, config, api, cli - will slide in first | 17:28 |
| sridhar_ram | lets go w/ this plan.. and we can course correct as we go | 17:28 |
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| sridhar_ram | I'll take up transitioning install-guide to gain some experience myself... | 17:29 |
| sridhar_ram | santoshk: if you've some bandwidth please pick up some doc work | 17:29 |
| sridhar_ram | moving on... | 17:30 |
| santoshk | sridhar_ram: sure | 17:30 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Functional Tests | 17:30 |
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| sridhar_ram | as you might know, we have few pending func tests for the features that landed in Mitaka.. | 17:31 |
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| sridhar_ram | it make sense to fill the gap before we get busy w/ newton features... | 17:31 |
| sridhar_ram | .. and to make sure mitaka features stay healthy as newton features start coming in | 17:31 |
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| santoshk | sridhar_ram: I am planning to add testcases , running existing tests with new tosca template format next few days.. | 17:32 |
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| sridhar_ram | santoshk: awesome, that's definitely the first order of business... | 17:32 |
| sripriya | santoshk: we will also need to test some optional properties of new tosca template such as anti_spoofing_protection, ip_address etc. | 17:33 |
| sridhar_ram | I need team's help to maintain an ongoing backlog of functional tests... | 17:33 |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-functional-test-backlog | 17:33 |
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| sridhar_ram | I seeded this etherpad with some func tests that I knew we need.. | 17:34 |
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| santoshk | sripriya: sure.. | 17:34 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, I pushed WIP patch for single VDU test case, will update soon for multi VDU | 17:34 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: I remember seeing a multi-vdu test already in the repo... | 17:35 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: https://github.com/openstack/tacker/blob/master/tacker/tests/functional/vnfm/test_tosca_vnf_multiple_vdu.py | 17:35 |
| santoshk | sridhar_ram: yes there is one multi-vdu tests, i think monitor enabled for few and disable for few.. | 17:35 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, but for auto flavor case | 17:35 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: cool, please use the etherpad to maintain the list you are bringing in... | 17:36 |
| sridhar_ram | so that we know who is working on what and avoid duplicate work.. | 17:36 |
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| tbh | sridhar_ram, sure, will update | 17:37 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: thanks! | 17:38 |
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| sridhar_ram | for any new contributors - functional tests (and docs) would be a nice way to get started in Tacker ! | 17:38 |
| sridhar_ram | please pitch in | 17:39 |
| sridhar_ram | moving on | 17:39 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Austin Summit Planning | 17:39 |
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| sridhar_ram | Final design summit slots are here.. | 17:40 |
| sridhar_ram | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/attachments/20160331/d59d38b7/attachment.pdf | 17:40 |
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| sridhar_ram | We have two consecutive blocks... | 17:40 |
| sridhar_ram | Apr 28th Thursday - 2:20pm - 5:40pm | 17:41 |
| sridhar_ram | Apr 29th Friday - 2pm - 5pm | 17:41 |
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| vishwanathj | On thursday, I see only from 3:10 PM, I am seeing it wrong | 17:41 |
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| vishwanathj | am I seeing it wrong? | 17:42 |
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| sridhar_ram | I know tacker team members talk session goes until 2:10pm (Vish / Yong Sheng) .. we need to rush from there straight to our design sessions | 17:42 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: I like that the design summit session (particularly the fishbowl one) is after our talks --- which would allow us to advertise the timeslot at the end of presentation | 17:42 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: +1 | 17:42 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: we have a fishbowl session at 2:20 - 3:00pm | 17:43 |
| vishwanathj | ok, got it | 17:43 |
| brucet | New topic OK? | 17:44 |
| sridhar_ram | Here is the main etherpad for the summit .. | 17:44 |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-newton-summit | 17:44 |
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| sridhar_ram | brucet: can you elaborate ? | 17:44 |
| brucet | Should we set up meetings with Tricircle and Artifact Repository teams? | 17:44 |
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| sridhar_ram | brucet: ah, yes.. we need to lay out the agenda for this 3 hr slot | 17:45 |
| sridhar_ram | we need a section for cross-project interactions.. | 17:45 |
| sridhar_ram | multisite / tricircle and sfc are two possible candidates.. | 17:46 |
| brucet | Artifact repository is 3rd candidate | 17:46 |
| brucet | https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/glance-specs/specs/kilo/artifact-repository.html | 17:46 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: that is glare project, correct ? | 17:46 |
| brucet | Yes | 17:47 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: I read from ML that folks from Astara specifically moved their design summit slot so it doesn't conflict with ours | 17:47 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: cross project workshops happen on tue as per the pdf link | 17:47 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: yep, that would be another for sure... | 17:47 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: I wonder if they will also show up for collaboration discussion... | 17:47 |
| sridhar_ram | lets collect all the inputs ... | 17:47 |
| sridhar_ram | these are all good ones.. | 17:48 |
| sridhar_ram | please help to add them to the etherpad link.. | 17:48 |
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| sridhar_ram | sripriya: there is a cross-project group within openstack headed by Mike Perez.. will find out more if we can participate there as well | 17:49 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: cool thanks | 17:49 |
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| sridhar_ram | first, can you please add your irc to the RSVP to see if we are going to have a quorum | 17:49 |
| sridhar_ram | can you also add which days you are going to attend - both Thur and Friday or just one of them... | 17:50 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh_: what is your availability ? | 17:51 |
| bobh_ | sridhar_ram: I'll be there Thursday, traveling Friday afternoon | 17:51 |
| * sridhar_ram notes 10mins left in the clock | 17:51 | |
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| sridhar_ram | bobh_: okay.. | 17:52 |
| sridhar_ram | all: please update the etherpad... so that I can help to slot the correct topics based on the subject matter experts! | 17:52 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram, bobh_: yeah, me too --- like bobh_, I won't be there on Friday afternoon | 17:52 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh_: s3wong: would it work if we meet Friday morning instead ? | 17:53 |
| sridhar_ram | we can always find a physical place to meetup.. | 17:53 |
| bobh_ | sridhar_ram: Friday morning works - I think I have until noon or so | 17:53 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: perhaps... my flight leaves @3:00pm | 17:54 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: before noon, perhaps? | 17:54 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh_: I believe most of will be in the airport at 3pm ;-) | 17:54 |
| sridhar_ram | *most of us | 17:55 |
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| bobh_ | sridhar_ram: yep - 3:12 to ORD | 17:55 |
| s3wong | bobh_, sridhar_ram: looks like we all have similar flight schedule :-) | 17:55 |
| sridhar_ram | lets move Friday meeting to AM - 9:30 - 12:30pm.. | 17:55 |
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| sridhar_ram | I'll find a place ! | 17:55 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: we had been very good at finding a place previously, given that we weren't an official project before :-) | 17:56 |
| sridhar_ram | I'll send a ML email as well for Summit planning ... | 17:56 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: yep ! | 17:56 |
| sripriya | s3wong: :-) | 17:56 |
| sridhar_ram | let's keep the ideas going to make it an effective design summit.. | 17:56 |
| sridhar_ram | lets continue fine tuning our summit agenda in next week's mtg | 17:57 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: hopefully we can get trozet there as well | 17:57 |
| brucet | Where BBQ in agenda?? | 17:57 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: yep! | 17:57 |
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| trozet | hi | 17:57 |
| s3wong | brucet: it is in Texas, I think BBQ is implied :-) | 17:57 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: oh yeah, lazed w/ tacker bbq sauce ! | 17:58 |
| s3wong | trozet: good for you to join us :-) | 17:58 |
| trozet | s3wong: I'll be at summit | 17:58 |
| trozet | s3wong: presenting Tacker+SFC :) | 17:58 |
| s3wong | trozet: nice! hopefully you will be available Thurs afternoon | 17:58 |
| sridhar_ram | trozet: already signed up to catch your SFC presentation! | 17:58 |
| trozet | s3wong: yeah would love to join on Thurs | 17:58 |
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| s3wong | trozet: great! | 17:59 |
| sridhar_ram | folks - there are lots of nice NFV session ... many abstracts mention Tacker! | 17:59 |
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| sridhar_ram | one even exploring projects like Tacker for Enterprise use cases ! | 17:59 |
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| sridhar_ram | which will be awesome to find & execute.. | 17:59 |
| sridhar_ram | we are out of time... | 17:59 |
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| LouisF | bye | 17:59 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Open Discussion | 17:59 |
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| brucet | Adios | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 18:00 | |
| sridhar_ram | next time ..! | 18:00 |
| sripriya | bye | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | bye everyone! | 18:00 |
| s3wong | open discussion of 0 second ... | 18:00 |
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| sridhar_ram | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 5 18:00:16 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-04-05-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-04-05-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-04-05-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
| markus_z | #startmeeting nova-bugs-team | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 5 18:00:36 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markus_z. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova-bugs-team)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_bugs_team' | 18:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 18:00 |
| sarafraj | o/ | 18:00 |
| claudiub | o/ | 18:01 |
| markus_z | cool, we're getting more :) | 18:01 |
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| markus_z | So, honestly, I don't have a hard agenda here. I mainly use http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html to figure out what needs work. | 18:01 |
| markus_z | sarafraj: You're new here I guess, any questions on the bug process itself? | 18:02 |
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| sarafraj | I did go through wiki regarding this. Ok for now. | 18:02 |
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| markus_z | auggy is busy this week with API work, anyone open for a week of bug skimming? I can help there if needed. | 18:03 |
| mriedem | ha https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1201266 | 18:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1201266 in Cinder "'is_public' filter should be handled when nova calls glance via V2" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) | 18:04 |
| mriedem | 995 days old | 18:04 |
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| markus_z | Ah, and a change some days ago | 18:04 |
| mriedem | for cinder | 18:04 |
| markus_z | right | 18:05 |
| mriedem | so with something like that, we have a glance v2 blueprint, we should just add the bug to the blueprint in LP and invalidate it for nova | 18:05 |
| mriedem | i can do that quick | 18:05 |
| markus_z | That would be great, thank you | 18:05 |
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| sarafraj | markus_z: I can help where ever you need, but I am pretty new to Nova so might need to pair up or tag along with someone for assistance. | 18:06 |
| markus_z | sarafraj: yep, we can do that. | 18:07 |
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| markus_z | sarafraj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW | 18:07 |
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| markus_z | That's the query for new bugs which aren't yet have a proper tag. It's good to start with that. | 18:07 |
| markus_z | sarafraj: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags | 18:08 |
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| sarafraj | markus_z: So this should be done as bugs get filed, like once a day or something. | 18:08 |
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| mriedem | markus_z: so, do the tag owners do any triage? | 18:08 |
| markus_z | sarafraj: yep, once every morning is fine | 18:08 |
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| sarafraj | markus_z: ok | 18:09 |
| markus_z | mriedem: I don't see that happen a lot. | 18:09 |
| markus_z | mriedem: api and scheduler is working, the rest, meh | 18:09 |
| markus_z | mriedem: live-migration with PaulMurray works too | 18:09 |
| markus_z | mriedem: I asked on the ML for more bug tag onwners once, but that didn't find any response. | 18:09 |
| mriedem | yeah... | 18:10 |
| markus_z | sarafraj: I'm in the UTC+1 timezone (just in case you wonder when I'm not responding) | 18:10 |
| mriedem | tagging is good to categorize things but if people aren't looking at them it's not very helpful | 18:10 |
| markus_z | mriedem: I'll ask again on the ML, maybe you can throw your PTL weight in | 18:10 |
| mriedem | well, i can't really force people to triage bugs | 18:10 |
| mriedem | just like i can't force people to rview code | 18:11 |
| markus_z | agreed. I don't see how I can give incentives here to do it. | 18:11 |
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| mriedem | it does seem like we could spend a day cleaning up a bunch of the garbage though | 18:11 |
| mriedem | like, we do bug squashing days, but those are for reviewing bug fixes | 18:11 |
| mriedem | maybe we need a bug triaging / cleanup day | 18:12 |
| sarafraj | markus_z: I have a team of 3-4 people for now and growing. I can ask them to start joining. We are dedicated to Nova | 18:12 |
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| markus_z | mriedem: A cleanup day could be useful. Just to remove the old clutter no one really is looking at. | 18:12 |
| mriedem | like looking at the stale and inconsistent tabs in that dashboard | 18:12 |
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| mriedem | some of the stale stuff might already be fixed, or no longer valid | 18:13 |
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| markus_z | true, takes a little time to do that. When would be the best slot to do such a cleanup day? Before the summit? | 18:14 |
| markus_z | After newton-1? | 18:14 |
| mriedem | let me check the release schedule | 18:15 |
| mriedem | newton-1 is the end of may, that's too far out | 18:15 |
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| markus_z | I guess the most folks wanna get their specs merged until newton-1 and don't want to spent time on cleaning up bug reports. | 18:16 |
| mriedem | i was thinking like the week before the summit | 18:16 |
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| mriedem | well we're in spec freeze right now for new things | 18:16 |
| mriedem | and we'll probably lift that a bit after the summit, which will add another level of distraction | 18:16 |
| mriedem | i generally don't expect a lot of code landing the week before the summit b/c people are prepping and traveling | 18:17 |
| mriedem | so that might be a good time to do it | 18:17 |
| mriedem | it needs to be focused though, so what would we want to target from that dashboard? | 18:17 |
| markus_z | mriedem: So, maybe April 18th (MO)? | 18:18 |
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| mriedem | i'd think mostly cleaning up the stale / inconsistent tabs | 18:18 |
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| markus_z | yeah, makes the most sense | 18:18 |
| mriedem | yeah 4/18 probably works | 18:18 |
| mriedem | tuesdays and wednesdays are bad b/c of lots of community meetings | 18:18 |
| mriedem | i'll send something to the dev list | 18:19 |
| markus_z | OK, cool. Let's focus on that. | 18:19 |
| sarafraj | mriedem: Can you please share a link to subscribe to dev list? | 18:20 |
| markus_z | sarafraj: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists | 18:20 |
| sarafraj | markus_z: thx | 18:20 |
| markus_z | openstack-dev is the important one | 18:20 |
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| markus_z | Another item anyone want to talk about? | 18:21 |
| mriedem | #action mriedem to propose a launchpad bug backlog cleanup day for 4/18 | 18:22 |
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| mriedem | i don't have anything else | 18:22 |
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| markus_z | OK, let's close for today. Thanks for your participation! | 18:22 |
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| markus_z | #endmeeting | 18:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 5 18:23:07 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-04-05-18.00.html | 18:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-04-05-18.00.txt | 18:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-04-05-18.00.log.html | 18:23 |
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