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| oanson | Hi | 09:00 |
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| oanson | Who is here for the dragonflow meeting? | 09:00 |
| gampel | hi | 09:00 |
| Shlomo_N | hi | 09:00 |
| yuli_s1 | hello | 09:01 |
| zenoway | Hi | 09:01 |
| scsnow | hi | 09:01 |
| oanson | All right, then lets start. | 09:01 |
| oanson | #startmeeting dragonflow | 09:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 4 09:01:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:01 |
| nick-ma | hello | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 09:01 |
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| oanson | #info gampel Shlomo_N yuli_s1 zenoway scsnow oanson nick-ma In meeting | 09:01 |
| oanson | #topic Redis Driver | 09:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Redis Driver (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:02 | |
| oanson | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274340/ | 09:02 |
| gampel | I tried to install it via devstack and it failed on fedora | 09:02 |
| oanson | I managed to run it, but it seems unstable. Not all the tests pass. | 09:03 |
| gampel | I mean the devstack patch not this one | 09:03 |
| oanson | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297916/ | 09:03 |
| gampel | is feipeng here ? | 09:03 |
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| oanson | Anyone can comment on this patch? | 09:04 |
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| oanson | In that case, I will communicate with feipeng when he becomes available. | 09:04 |
| gampel | is duankebo here ? | 09:04 |
| oanson | Let's move on. | 09:04 |
| gampel | Ok | 09:05 |
| oanson | #topic Security groups and port security | 09:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Security groups and port security (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:05 | |
| oanson | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280538/ | 09:05 |
| gampel | dingbo is here ? | 09:06 |
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| oanson | Guess not. | 09:06 |
| gampel | I know gal tested this patch | 09:07 |
| gampel | nut i am not sure whats the status now? | 09:07 |
| oanson | This patch still has many review comments on it. And it is missing a fullstack test | 09:07 |
| gampel | Ok i will talk with dingbo we need to put priority on this one | 09:08 |
| gampel | it is critical for the release and we do not have much time | 09:08 |
| oanson | Ok | 09:08 |
| nick-ma | Ok | 09:08 |
| oanson | #action gampel dingboopt to push SG app forwards. | 09:08 |
| oanson | #topic Distributed DNAT | 09:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Distributed DNAT (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:09 | |
| oanson | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289148/ | 09:09 |
| oanson | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294374/ | 09:09 |
| oanson | Is raofei here? | 09:09 |
| oanson | yuli_s1, I understand you and gsagie tried to test this patch? | 09:09 |
| gampel | I think that it is in a good state , I know that nick-ma and yuli tested it | 09:09 |
| yuli_s1 | dnat, yes | 09:10 |
| gampel | yuli: whats the status of your tests | 09:10 |
| yuli_s1 | i have a problem now pinging the VM from the outside world | 09:10 |
| gampel | I think that the only issue is the GW MAC update | 09:10 |
| yuli_s1 | using the fip | 09:10 |
| nick-ma | Yes, generally working. but it seems not completed. Like gateway ip update. | 09:10 |
| yuli_s1 | I am checking this now | 09:10 |
| nick-ma | Ok, Mac | 09:10 |
| oanson | yuli_s1, do you know more or less what's the issue? | 09:11 |
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| yuli_s1 | in addition, I found a problem here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1548725 | 09:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1548725 in DragonFlow "It's not possible to assign a FIP for a VM on the default private network" [High,New] - Assigned to Eran Gampel (eran-gampel) | 09:11 |
| gampel | I understand that raofei is adding a periodic arp to the GW | 09:11 |
| yuli_s1 | i see a packet comming to VM | 09:11 |
| gampel | but for this phase we could merge it even with configuring the GW mac in mt opinion | 09:11 |
| yuli_s1 | i do not see a response, | 09:12 |
| oanson | I don't feel comfortable with setting the MAC in configuration. | 09:12 |
| gampel | Yuli i will look at this two problem today but please send an email to raofei about it | 09:12 |
| oanson | There is supported for gratuitous arp, and support to responding to arp replies from the gateway | 09:12 |
| oanson | the question is, if we don't filter by dest IP, will it be good enough, or do we still want to allow MAC configuration? | 09:13 |
| yuli_s1 | i think raofei already fixed the periodic update code | 09:13 |
| gampel | So we need to check whats the status with raofei and see how long it will take | 09:13 |
| yuli_s1 | and I am working with his patches from yesterday | 09:13 |
| oanson | It looks like the periodic arp has already been uploaded | 09:14 |
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| oanson | yuli_s1, could you please test with the new code? | 09:14 |
| yuli_s1 | i am using new code | 09:14 |
| gampel | Ok so yuli could you communicate with raofei about your test | 09:14 |
| yuli_s1 | yes, sure | 09:14 |
| gampel | you could add it to the patch | 09:14 |
| oanson | yuli_s1, is there a way to make your test automatic? | 09:15 |
| yuli_s1 | yes, | 09:16 |
| oanson | great! | 09:16 |
| yuli_s1 | with the "ovs-appctl ofproto/trace" command probably | 09:16 |
| oanson | #action yuli_s1 raofei to verify distributed DNAT status | 09:17 |
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| oanson | yuli_s1, that means the trace output has to be parsed. | 09:17 |
| oanson | Any more comments on this topic? | 09:18 |
| yuli_s1 | nop | 09:18 |
| gampel | no | 09:18 |
| oanson | #topic local controller reliability | 09:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "local controller reliability (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:18 | |
| oanson | Is heshan here? | 09:18 |
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| gampel | it seem that all group is not here | 09:19 |
| oanson | Looks like it. | 09:19 |
| gampel | oanson: we can discuss what you suggested on the notify | 09:20 |
| nick-ma | :-) national holiday | 09:20 |
| gampel | Ohh I see thx | 09:20 |
| oanson | Ah. That explains it :) | 09:20 |
| oanson | All right. the OVSDB notify is the next topic | 09:20 |
| nick-ma | I am in the airport | 09:20 |
| oanson | #topic OVSDB Monitor - Notifications | 09:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OVSDB Monitor - Notifications (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:20 | |
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| yuli_s1 | we have anasigned bug here: | 09:21 |
| yuli_s1 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1563708 | 09:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1563708 in DragonFlow "OVSDB monitor reports events on tunnel ports" [Undecided,New] | 09:21 |
| oanson | I was looking into the OVS IDL code to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1564766 | 09:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1564766 in DragonFlow "When add a vm, flow entries are not installed because ovs port online event is filtered by ovsdbmonitor," [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Omer Anson (omer-anson) | 09:21 |
| oanson | Which I guess can be used to also fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1563708 | 09:22 |
| yuli_s1 | ok, great | 09:22 |
| oanson | It looks like the OVS db connection (Idl in OVS) already has a mechanism for notifications from the OVS db | 09:22 |
| yuli_s1 | i will assign it to you | 09:22 |
| oanson | yuli_s1, thanks | 09:22 |
| yuli_s1 | np ;) | 09:22 |
| oanson | I was hoping maybe hujie can explain why he re-wrote that piece, but I don't think he's here | 09:23 |
| gampel | oanson: i agree we should reuse the ovs code | 09:23 |
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| oanson | gampel: I agree. | 09:24 |
| oanson | I will talk to hujie to try and understand why this is the method he chose to do it | 09:24 |
| gampel | will you write an email to hujie about it , as it is 200 line of code and we see some unsuitability there | 09:24 |
| oanson | Once that is clear, I, or hujie, can re-write it | 09:24 |
| gampel | great | 09:24 |
| oanson | I have an ongoing discussion with him. That shouldn't be a problem. :) | 09:25 |
| oanson | #topic Bugs | 09:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:25 | |
| yuli_s1 | we have another anasigned bug: | 09:26 |
| oanson | yuli_s1: Any other new bugs, except the new one I just got? :) | 09:26 |
| yuli_s1 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1559841 | 09:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1559841 in DragonFlow "dhcp rpc is not handled at plugin side" [Medium,New] | 09:26 |
| yuli_s1 | and I wnat to take this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1548725 | 09:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1548725 in DragonFlow "It's not possible to assign a FIP for a VM on the default private network" [High,New] - Assigned to Eran Gampel (eran-gampel) | 09:26 |
| yuli_s1 | and assign it to me, i have a solution for it | 09:26 |
| oanson | yuli_s1, why is 1559841 set to medium? | 09:27 |
| gampel | i will take the dhcp it seem | 09:27 |
| gampel | non critical due | 09:27 |
| nick-ma | The rpc to dhcp agent is unnecessary. It is not important, I think. | 09:28 |
| yuli_s1 | ok, | 09:28 |
| gampel | i agree | 09:28 |
| yuli_s1 | may be we will move it to wishlist ? | 09:28 |
| oanson | Then the issue is just the log? | 09:28 |
| gampel | yes | 09:28 |
| oanson | I think to 'low' | 09:28 |
| oanson | It's still a bug, not a feature request | 09:28 |
| gampel | sure | 09:28 |
| yuli_s1 | ok, I made it low | 09:29 |
| oanson | Great. yuli_s1 are there any more? | 09:29 |
| yuli_s1 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1536868 | 09:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1536868 in DragonFlow "Dragonflow should prevent IP spoof" [Low,New] | 09:29 |
| yuli_s1 | we have a spec on this subject | 09:29 |
| oanson | Will we have time to add it before the feature freeze? | 09:30 |
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| gampel | I am not sure | 09:30 |
| gampel | this is for sure wish list | 09:31 |
| oanson | Sounds good. | 09:31 |
| nick-ma | I don't suggest to add new features. It is in the wish list. | 09:31 |
| yuli_s1 | ok | 09:31 |
| oanson | yuli_s1, next please. | 09:31 |
| gampel | whats the status of the OVS service | 09:32 |
| yuli_s1 | probably ok with bugs | 09:32 |
| gampel | oanson:i see you have comments form gal | 09:32 |
| oanson | It's waiting for review here: https://review.openstack.org/296897 | 09:32 |
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| yuli_s1 | and hear: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1563901 | 09:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1563901 in DragonFlow "fullstack: testL3App failed" [High,New] | 09:33 |
| oanson | I will address his comments. | 09:33 |
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| gampel | nick-ma : will you be able to review it as well | 09:33 |
| nick-ma | Of course. | 09:33 |
| gampel | the OVS service patch | 09:33 |
| gampel | And we have some other patches that i think that we could merge once we get another +2 | 09:34 |
| oanson | Once these are merged, the system should be a bit more stable | 09:35 |
| oanson | Then we can re-review 1536868 and see if it is still happening | 09:35 |
| gampel | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297167/ is in a good state in my opinion | 09:35 |
| oanson | Since the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298121/ to bug 1560927 should have resolved it (And it didn't) | 09:35 |
| openstack | bug 1560927 in DragonFlow "add router interface: TypeError in l3_proactive_app" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1560927 - Assigned to Omer Anson (omer-anson) | 09:35 |
| oanson | yuli_s1, any more? | 09:36 |
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| yuli_s1 | nop | 09:37 |
| oanson | All right. | 09:37 |
| oanson | #topic Testing | 09:37 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Testing (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:37 | |
| oanson | I remind that we plan a feature freeze for 7th of April. That's this Thursday. | 09:37 |
| gampel | Shlomo do you want to share your control path testing | 09:37 |
| gampel | data plane sorry | 09:38 |
| Shlomo_N | Sure | 09:38 |
| Shlomo_N | There is not much new from the email I have send yesterday | 09:38 |
| Shlomo_N | So you can | 09:38 |
| Shlomo_N | stop me anytime :-) | 09:38 |
| Shlomo_N | I able to produce 10Gb/s (line rate) between the compute-nodes. | 09:38 |
| Shlomo_N | Also managed to produce 7.5 Gb/s SNAT scenario from 3 VMs that resides on same CN. | 09:39 |
| Shlomo_N | But I found two issues that I am still investigating: ... | 09:39 |
| Shlomo_N | 1) I can’t produce near line rate bandwidth from VMs that resides on same CN. | 09:40 |
| Shlomo_N | 2) On the destination CN, there is a process ksoftirqd that gots to 100% cpu on core #5 only. | 09:40 |
| oanson | Shlomo_N, about 2), what tunnel type did you use? | 09:41 |
| Shlomo_N | VxLan | 09:41 |
| oanson | Does it reproduce with geneve or gre? | 09:41 |
| nick-ma | 2) need to enable multi queue for nic to take advantage of multi core. | 09:41 |
| Shlomo_N | oanson: I didn't so far. | 09:42 |
| oanson | I think nick-ma is closer to the mark :) | 09:42 |
| Shlomo_N | nick-ma: sound like a good idea | 09:42 |
| oanson | I'd try that first | 09:42 |
| oanson | All right, anything else in this topic? | 09:43 |
| Shlomo_N | nick-ma: can you send me any link that exaplains how I can do it? | 09:43 |
| Shlomo_N | I am using fedora | 09:44 |
| nick-ma | I will find it for you tomorrow. | 09:44 |
| Shlomo_N | great, thanks! | 09:44 |
| gampel | oanson: whats the status on the DB scale automatic testing scripts ? | 09:44 |
| oanson | I only started looking into it. | 09:45 |
| gampel | :) ok | 09:45 |
| oanson | It shouldn't be too difficult to apply it to our system. | 09:45 |
| oanson | I hope I'll have something more interesting to say next week. :) | 09:45 |
| gampel | great | 09:45 |
| oanson | Anything else on this topic? | 09:46 |
| oanson | #topic Open Discussion | 09:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:46 | |
| gampel | so we have any patches with high review priority ? | 09:46 |
| oanson | The patches linked in this meeting are all high review priority | 09:46 |
| oanson | These are all features we want merged before Thursday. | 09:46 |
| oanson | Additionally, reviews related to bugs marked as High are also important | 09:47 |
| gampel | will do | 09:47 |
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| nick-ma | will do | 09:47 |
| gampel | whats the problem with the ping pong test is it fixed | 09:47 |
| oanson | It still appears to be unstable. | 09:48 |
| oanson | I will look at it during the week. I think some of the other bugs are making it unstable. | 09:48 |
| gampel | Ok | 09:48 |
| oanson | I remind that we want to reach Feature Freeze on the 7th April. | 09:48 |
| oanson | That's this Thursday. | 09:49 |
| oanson | We want to reach code freeze on the 18th. | 09:49 |
| gampel | nick-ma: is tomorrow working day in china ? | 09:49 |
| oanson | That's Monday, exactly two weeks from now | 09:49 |
| nick-ma | Yes | 09:49 |
| scsnow | hi, how to get involved into df dev? i've read almost all blog posts about df in Gal's and Eran's blog. can someone point on easy bug/blueprint, that i could start to look into, to get familiar with df code? | 09:49 |
| gampel | yes sure lets tack it offline after the meeting | 09:50 |
| scsnow | thanks | 09:50 |
| gampel | omer yuli is there an easy bug you have on the list | 09:50 |
| oanson | I can look through the list and find something interesting. | 09:51 |
| gampel | ok i will do i as well lets help @scsnow to kick start | 09:52 |
| oanson | scsnow, looking through some of the shorter reviews is also a great way to get familiar with the code. | 09:52 |
| gampel | I agree we need allot of help with the patch review | 09:53 |
| oanson | Anyone wants to discuss anything else? | 09:54 |
| gampel | Nop thank you everyone | 09:54 |
| oanson | All right. | 09:54 |
| Shlomo_N | thanks | 09:54 |
| oanson | Thanks everyone. | 09:54 |
| oanson | #endmeeting | 09:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 09:54 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 4 09:54:39 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-04-04-09.01.html | 09:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-04-04-09.01.txt | 09:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-04-04-09.01.log.html | 09:54 |
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| Sukhdev | Folks time for Ironic-neutron meeting | 16:00 |
| jroll | hi! | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting ironic_neutron | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 4 16:00:55 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_neutron' | 16:01 |
| sambetts | o/ Hi all | 16:01 |
| jroll | \o | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Agenda (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:01 | |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_April_4.2C_2016 | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | I kept the same agenda from last time - thought we'll adjust it as we go along | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Announcements (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:01 | |
| Sukhdev | Mitaka is this week, right? | 16:02 |
| jroll | yep | 16:02 |
| sambetts | Coordiated release is the 7th | 16:02 |
| sambetts | Thursday :) | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | then we can get on with Neuton :-) | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | I spoke with armax about a joint session (Neutron/Ironic/nova) in Austin | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | He wanted to understand the agenda - so, I discussed about the VLAN aware servers | 16:04 |
| jroll | fwiw, I also proposed that for the cross-project track: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-cross-project-sessions | 16:04 |
| jroll | line 165 | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | jroll : cool | 16:05 |
| jroll | (but go on, sorry to interrupt) | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev | there is already a neutron/nova session planned - so, he wanted to understand the specifics that we have in mind | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | see here- https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-summit-ideas | 16:06 |
| jroll | yeah, this would be separate from the existing one | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | jroll : So, I did the prep work and told him to expect a ping from you regarding the joint session | 16:07 |
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| jroll | Sukhdev: I've talked with nova ptl about it, but not armax as of yet | 16:08 |
| jroll | what do I need to ping him about, other than "this is important to us" :) | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | jroll : just to coordinate so that it is planned and property advertised | 16:09 |
| jroll | sure | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | He mentioned he was tight on number of sessions, hence, wanted to priortize | 16:10 |
| jroll | nod | 16:10 |
| jroll | nova has a session in every time slot wednesday/thursday, so it might also be hard to pull them into a neutron session | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev | and especially another nova/neutron session was planned as well | 16:10 |
| jroll | so I'm hoping this ends up in the cross-project track | 16:10 |
| jroll | (on tuesday) | 16:10 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll: that would be really cool then he won't worry about his sessions :-) | 16:11 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: yeah, that's the goal :) | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else? | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | any other announcements? | 16:12 |
| jroll | the multitenant network CI is green \o/ | 16:13 |
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| jroll | huge thanks to vasyl and everyone else working on that | 16:13 |
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| Sukhdev | cheers :-) | 16:13 |
| jroll | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/091025.html | 16:13 |
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| Sukhdev | I met with Jay Pipes over a beer last week - | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | he is considering proposing a third party testing lab community wide | 16:14 |
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| Sukhdev | this will facilitate for such testing of baremetal as well virtual deployments | 16:15 |
| jroll | yeah, I've seen that on the ML | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | he is looking for volunteers and HW | 16:16 |
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| Sukhdev | anything else? | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | back to the agenda - | 16:17 |
| * jroll has nothing | 16:17 | |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Critical Ironic patches for early merge for N | 16:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Critical Ironic patches for early merge for N (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:17 | |
| Sukhdev | I have corrected the list of 4 patches on the agenda page | 16:18 |
| Sukhdev | Lets see if we can review, cleanup and get these merged so that early adopters can start to test | 16:18 |
| Sukhdev | and provide the feedback | 16:18 |
| jroll | +1 | 16:18 |
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| Sukhdev | I looked them over the weekend - they look in a reasonable shape | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | and with CI green - that makes it easier | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | Do we need to discuss any specific patch here? | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | or are we good with the list? | 16:20 |
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| Sukhdev | I did not include nova patch in the list | 16:21 |
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| jroll | I think I'm good with it | 16:21 |
| * sambetts is good with the list | 16:22 | |
| Sukhdev | cool - thanks | 16:22 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: VLAN aware BMs | 16:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": VLAN aware BMs (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:22 | |
| Sukhdev | I discussed this in the Neutron core meeting as well as over beer with neutron cores | 16:22 |
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| sambetts | So I've been doing a lot more research into the vlan aware vms, and the model they've drawn up is a difficult one for both BM and SRIOV | 16:23 |
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| Sukhdev | I took the liberty of sharing Sam's patches with them - | 16:23 |
| sambetts | Sukhdev: thanks :) | 16:23 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : yup, I had a fairly detailed level discussion to see how can we align the work so that we do not end up doubling the effort | 16:24 |
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| Sukhdev | the initial feedback I got was that we can significantly simplify the work in Ironic | 16:25 |
| jroll | I'd love to see a novel written about that discussion on the ML :) | 16:25 |
| Sukhdev | jroll : other than neutron spec, there is nothing specific - | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | because the work got pushed to N from M, owners may change as well | 16:26 |
| sambetts | My concern when I looked further into the vm aware spec is that they're model relies on a service in the compute host doing vlan to vlan translation | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | My intent of this discussion in the neutron team is to find right people so that we can pull them all into this joint session in Austin | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | and work through the details and then march forward with the implementation | 16:27 |
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| Sukhdev | kind of similar approach that we took in Vancouver | 16:27 |
| sambetts | that would be good :) | 16:27 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts : the idea is to understand the requirements from both VMs and BMs | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev | armax even suggested that we should change the title from VLAN aware VMs to VLAN aware servers | 16:28 |
| jroll | ++ | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | so that it works for all | 16:29 |
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| sambetts | +++ | 16:29 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: I was thinking we need a "vlan aware instances" session in the neutron summit, that focuses on VM+BM | 16:29 |
| sambetts | yeah, I thought thats what the nova+neutron+ironic session would end up being | 16:29 |
| jroll | and save the neutron/nova/ironic joint session for "okay, how do we actually decouple physical infra from neutron networking" | 16:30 |
| jroll | which is the real thing we want to solve | 16:30 |
| jroll | vlan-aware instances gets us most of the way there, I think, there's a few other things to deal with | 16:30 |
| * sambetts likes being on the bleeding edge | 16:30 | |
| Sukhdev | jroll : the one I proposed on neutron track essentially is for VLAN aware servers - as armax pinned me with the specifics of what we want to cover | 16:31 |
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| jroll | Sukhdev: okay, cool, let's not call it baremetal then, but rather call out that it should solve for both bare metal and VM | 16:31 |
| sambetts | Yeah, and not just ovs VMs either | 16:32 |
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| Sukhdev | OK - I will reword it | 16:32 |
| * jroll adds to that | 16:32 | |
| Sukhdev | jroll : only issue I see is that he is tight on number of sessions | 16:33 |
| Sukhdev | jroll : if need be, can we do this session on Ironic track? | 16:34 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: well, the larger session is proposed as cross-project session | 16:34 |
| jroll | unless you mean the "vlan aware servers" thing | 16:34 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll : In case we need one specific for this - | 16:34 |
| jroll | in which case... maybe? that's totally a neutron topic, but if we have room... | 16:34 |
| jroll | here's what I think we need: | 16:35 |
| jroll | 1) neutron session on vlan aware things | 16:35 |
| jroll | 2) nova/neutron/ironic session on decoupling physical infra from neutron networks | 16:35 |
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| jroll | (1) only really makes sense in the neutron track, (2) we have proposed to cross-project, will likely take it in an ironic session if needed | 16:36 |
| jroll | does that make sense? | 16:36 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll : yes, it does - I will have to fight to generate enough interest in neutron side to get session for 1) | 16:37 |
| jroll | right, and I think if we include VMs in it (especially non-ovs!), it will get traction | 16:37 |
| sambetts | definatly | 16:37 |
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| Sukhdev | yes - let me re-word the session title. | 16:38 |
| jroll | I think it's fine as-is | 16:38 |
| * jroll adds a note to clarify | 16:38 | |
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| Sukhdev | jroll : I just looked (had forgotten what I wrote :-)) - yes, it looks fine | 16:39 |
| jroll | :) | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | I will continue to push to get this scheduled | 16:41 |
| sambetts | Where are these sessions defined? | 16:41 |
| jroll | sambetts: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-summit-ideas | 16:41 |
| jroll | and item 12 on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-cross-project-sessions | 16:41 |
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| sambetts | thanks jroll :) | 16:42 |
| jroll | yep | 16:42 |
| sambetts | and thanks Sukhdev for pushing this | 16:42 |
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| Sukhdev | BTW, I am proposing another one Manila-Neutron integration (see item 1) | 16:43 |
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| Sukhdev | Anything else? | 16:45 |
| sambetts | can I vote on the neutron summit ideas like the cross project one? | 16:45 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts: yes - please add your name - like jroll did on the neutron one | 16:45 |
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| jroll | sambetts: you shouldn't vote on the c-p session, I think that's for TC only | 16:46 |
| sambetts | oh :/ | 16:46 |
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| jroll | oh maybe not | 16:46 |
| jroll | idk | 16:46 |
| jroll | I see prometheanfire in there | 16:46 |
| * jroll will ask | 16:46 | |
| Sukhdev | I did not mean a formal vote - just add a line on the etherpad | 16:47 |
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| sambetts | man there should be a standard for these etherpads :-P | 16:48 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts : ha ha - welcome to open source development :-):-) | 16:48 |
| sambetts | :D | 16:48 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts : in all seriousness - there is no way to find out what and where do these exist - unless somebody tells, you have no clue :-):-0 | 16:49 |
| sambetts | yeah, its a shame we're not using gerrit for the session voting | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | jroll : is there a deadline as to when will these sessions be selected? | 16:50 |
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| sambetts | the cross project etherpad says 6th | 16:50 |
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| jroll | Sukhdev: april 17th is the last day to put things on the official schedule | 16:51 |
| jroll | but teams may have their own deadlines and such | 16:51 |
| Sukhdev | jroll : oh I see - I have had couple of beer sessions, need to have one more before 17th :-):-) | 16:52 |
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| jroll | heh | 16:52 |
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| * sambetts wishes he could have beer sessions with other devs | 16:52 | |
| Sukhdev | any local guys in the bay area here? | 16:52 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts: if you are local here, feel free to join us | 16:52 |
| sambetts | no, i'm in the UK so not even close :P | 16:53 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: semi local, I'm deep east bay | 16:53 |
| jroll | so south bay is too far | 16:53 |
| jroll | also I'm moving out of the area on wednesday so... :P | 16:54 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: we usually meet in Mountain View - bierhous - If you want I can send you invite next time | 16:54 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: nah, I'll be long gone by then, and that's a 1.5-2 hour drive | 16:54 |
| Sukhdev | jroll : your loss :-):-) | 16:55 |
| jroll | I do love bierhous though, my favorite place to beer in mt view :) | 16:55 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll : when ever you in bay area, ping me, we can schedule one - this is how it works | 16:56 |
| jroll | sure :) | 16:56 |
| Sukhdev | last week Jay Pipes was in town, hence, we arranged one | 16:56 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 16:56 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to ": Open Discussion (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:56 | |
| Sukhdev | we are down to 4 mins | 16:56 |
| jroll | I have nothing | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | anybody has anything to cover? | 16:57 |
| sambetts | nothing from me | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | cool - I guess, we are done | 16:57 |
| jroll | thanks all :) | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | thanks for attending | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 16:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 4 16:58:06 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-04-04-16.00.html | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-04-04-16.00.txt | 16:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-04-04-16.00.log.html | 16:58 |
| sambetts | o/ | 16:58 |
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