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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 2 14:00:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is acabot_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| acabot_ | hi | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 14:00 |
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| vmahe | hi | 14:00 |
| tpeoples | o/ | 14:00 |
| acabot_ | welcome ptklechat ;-) | 14:00 |
| gzhai2 | hi | 14:00 |
| ptklechat | thx ! Hello all ! | 14:01 |
| tkaczynski | hi | 14:01 |
| sballe_ | hi | 14:01 |
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| acabot_ | our agenda for today #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#03.2F02.2F2016 | 14:01 |
| edleafe | o/ | 14:01 |
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| vtech | o/ | 14:01 |
| jwcroppe_ | o/ | 14:01 |
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| acabot_ | #topic Annoucements | 14:02 |
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| vincentfrancoise | o/ | 14:02 |
| acabot_ | #info Mitaka-3 release is expected tomorrow | 14:02 |
| acabot_ | I can say that we are far from the schedule we planned at the mid-cycle ;-) | 14:02 |
| tkaczynski | acabot_ what are the exact dates? | 14:03 |
| acabot_ | 3rd of March | 14:03 |
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| acabot_ | #link https://launchpad.net/watcher/+milestone/mitaka-3 | 14:03 |
| sballe_ | acabot_: I will be on the plane all day tomorrow so I can spend that time doing reviews | 14:03 |
| acabot_ | most of our BPs have specs but implementation is not started yet | 14:04 |
| acabot_ | sballe_: there are a lot of open reviews on documentation | 14:04 |
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| vincentfrancoise | FYI, for Mitaka release schedule #link http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html | 14:04 |
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| sballe_ | ok I will reviews doc stuff | 14:05 |
| jwcroppe_ | Ditto | 14:05 |
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| acabot_ | so the question is, should we now target Newton-1 which is pretty far away, or we create intermediate milestones before the Austin summit ? | 14:06 |
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| acabot_ | Newton-1 will be around mid-june | 14:06 |
| tpeoples | I vote intermediate | 14:06 |
| gzhai2 | +1 | 14:07 |
| seanmurphy | +1 | 14:07 |
| sballe_ | +1 | 14:07 |
| brunograz | +1 | 14:07 |
| vtech | +2 | 14:07 |
| vincentfrancoise | +1 for an rc1 | 14:07 |
| jwcroppe | Intermed would be nice. | 14:07 |
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| acabot_ | ok si I will create an RC1 mid-march and probably an RC2 mid-april | 14:07 |
| sballe_ | +1 | 14:08 |
| sballe_ | that makes a lot of sense to me | 14:08 |
| tkaczynski | re: scoring-module: I'm finally setup with devstack, started working on BP and implementation in parallel. but given the schedule, it will be really hard to have both in the next 2 weeks or so. voting for intermediate milestone | 14:08 |
| sballe_ | Great! | 14:08 |
| sballe_ | and +1 on irc1 | 14:08 |
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| acabot_ | #action acabot create an RC1 mid-march and probably an RC2 mid-april | 14:09 |
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| acabot_ | #action jwcroppe sballe_ review doc on Watcher | 14:09 |
| acabot_ | any other annoucement ? | 14:10 |
| acabot_ | #topic Review Action Items | 14:10 |
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| acabot_ | #info some specs have been merged this week "Added specification for ZHAW load consolidation", "optimization threshold spec" & "Define the scope of an Audit as pool of resources" | 14:11 |
| acabot_ | we can now start working on implemented them, I know that vtech & seanmurphy already started implementing | 14:12 |
| seanmurphy | and brunograz | 14:12 |
| acabot_ | gzhai2: did you already start implementing the optimization threshold ? | 14:12 |
| seanmurphy | we expect to submit something for review today | 14:12 |
| gzhai2 | not yet. start on workload balance migration strategy spec | 14:13 |
| acabot_ | seanmurphy : great thx | 14:13 |
| sballe_ | acabot_: I have been out so didn't check. Is Junjie's spec mereged yet | 14:13 |
| acabot_ | gzhai2 : you mean are you replacing junjie on this ? | 14:13 |
| gzhai2 | I'll do the coding. | 14:13 |
| acabot_ | sballe_: not yet but I would like to do it asap | 14:14 |
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| sballe_ | acabot_: Yeah I agree | 14:14 |
| dtardivel | hi, sorry to be late | 14:14 |
| acabot_ | gzhai2: ok so what about optimization threshold ? Should I unprioritize it ? | 14:14 |
| vtech | acabot_: we will also use optimization thresholds in our algorithm. I drafted the idea here - https://github.com/icclab/watcher/commit/3b9c4652dd784e38affa9f5887351b6b09141de8 | 14:15 |
| vtech | will probably hardcode them at first, but it can be adjusted later on... | 14:15 |
| sballe_ | gzhai2: What happened to Junjie? | 14:16 |
| acabot_ | vtech: thx did you had a look at the spec https://github.com/openstack/watcher-specs/blob/master/specs/mitaka/approved/optimization-threshold.rst | 14:16 |
| tpeoples | i thought we discussed that having the optimization threshold was going to be important to display at the summit. i know we're behind schedule but i think we should still push for that | 14:16 |
| gzhai2 | sballe_: Junjie has some other tasks? You can check. | 14:16 |
| sballe_ | gzhai2: check with Nishi? | 14:17 |
| acabot_ | tpeoples: I agree we definitely need to pass parameters to a strategy for the summit | 14:17 |
| sballe_ | ok let's take it off line | 14:17 |
| vtech | acabot_: I haven't, but will check it out. | 14:18 |
| acabot_ | #action vtech look at the spec https://github.com/openstack/watcher-specs/blob/master/specs/mitaka/approved/optimization-threshold.rst not implemented yet | 14:18 |
| gzhai2 | and efficacy indicator affect it. | 14:18 |
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| acabot_ | sballe_ : Intel has 2 very important BPs related to the demo in Austin, do you think you can make them ? | 14:19 |
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| sballe_ | acabot_: I am checking with Nishi to see what is going on | 14:19 |
| acabot_ | sballe_: ok thx | 14:20 |
| sballe_ | I'll let you know as soon as I hear back from her | 14:20 |
| acabot_ | #action sballe_ check with nishi whats going on regarding the BPs https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/workload-balance-migration-strategy & https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/optimization-threshold | 14:20 |
| acabot_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276586/ is waiting for reviews | 14:22 |
| acabot_ | #action acabot jwcroppe sballe_ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276586/ to merge asap | 14:23 |
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| acabot_ | vmahe could you provide a new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283449/ ? | 14:23 |
| acabot_ | after gzhai2 comments | 14:24 |
| vmahe | yes, I'm on it but I need to double check one point with jed56 | 14:24 |
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| acabot_ | #action vmahe provide a new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286153/ | 14:25 |
| acabot_ | sorry | 14:25 |
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| acabot_ | #action vmahe provide a new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283449/ | 14:25 |
| acabot_ | alexstav submitted a spec of their strategy Add Overload standard deviation strategy spec | 14:26 |
| acabot_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286153/ | 14:26 |
| acabot_ | but I dont think he is on IRC right now to tell us if it is open for reviews | 14:26 |
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| gzhai2 | pwd | 14:27 |
| acabot_ | #info tpeoples submitted a WIP on "Cluster model objects wrapper" and is looking for feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287019/ | 14:27 |
| tpeoples | yes, i want to get feedback to ensure the spec captures what was discussed at the midcycle | 14:28 |
| tpeoples | before i run off and do implementation since it's going to be a decent amount of work | 14:28 |
| acabot_ | ok | 14:28 |
| tpeoples | jwcroppe: edleafe: can you guys take a look at that when you have free time please? | 14:28 |
| acabot_ | #action acabot jwcroppe sballe_ jed56 edleafe review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287019/ for a first feedback | 14:29 |
| edleafe | tpeoples: I'll try, but it's crunch time in nova land due to M-3 closing today | 14:29 |
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| tpeoples | edleafe: no worries i understand, even in the next few days is ok if you can | 14:30 |
| acabot_ | we need specs for "Provide a scoring module for Watcher" and tkaczynski is working on it | 14:30 |
| tkaczynski | yes, full steam on it | 14:30 |
| acabot_ | and I'm working on specs for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/select-destinations-filter | 14:31 |
| acabot_ | #action tkaczynski submit a spec for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/scoring-module | 14:31 |
| acabot_ | #action acabot submit a spec for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/select-destinations-filter | 14:31 |
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| acabot_ | #action acabot_ submit a spec for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/select-destinations-filter | 14:31 |
| acabot_ | thats is for specs | 14:32 |
| acabot_ | on Watcher code | 14:32 |
| acabot_ | #info vincentfrancoise has pushed implementation of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/db-purge-engine | 14:33 |
| acabot_ | and is looking for reviewers | 14:33 |
| acabot_ | especially for doc updates | 14:33 |
| acabot_ | vincentfrancoise: any specific review you want to mention ? | 14:33 |
| vincentfrancoise | well I missed a work item | 14:34 |
| vincentfrancoise | so I'll put this one in WIP | 14:34 |
| vincentfrancoise | though it won't take much time to finish it | 14:34 |
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| tpeoples | ok, i will review that | 14:35 |
| acabot_ | vincentfrancoise: any way to get a list of open doc reviews on gerrit ? | 14:36 |
| acabot_ | #action tpeoples review code for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/db-purge-engine | 14:36 |
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| acabot_ | #info a couple of bugs have been fixed | 14:37 |
| acabot_ | nothing new on python-watcherclient | 14:38 |
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| acabot_ | #info launchpad for watcher-dashboard has been set up with Mitaka milestones | 14:38 |
| acabot_ | we will probably need a new BP to align the dashboard features with the python-watcherclient ones | 14:39 |
| dtardivel | acabot_: BP or wishlist Bugs | 14:40 |
| acabot_ | dtardivel: could this fit in a whishlist bug ? | 14:40 |
| acabot_ | wishlist sorry | 14:40 |
| dtardivel | acabot_: vincentfrancoise and I will have a look on missing feature on dashboard | 14:40 |
| acabot_ | #action dtardivel vincentfrancoise will have a look on missing feature on dashboard | 14:41 |
| tpeoples | acabot_: regarding your doc reviews question: use the following query to see open reviews that touch a doc file: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+file:doc | 14:41 |
| acabot_ | tpeoples: great ! thx | 14:41 |
| dtardivel | acabot_: If it is just a missing button, we can open a wishlist bug no ? | 14:42 |
| acabot_ | #action sballe_ jwcroppe acabot review open doc updates https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+file:doc | 14:42 |
| tpeoples | dtardivel: seems reasonable to me | 14:42 |
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| acabot_ | dtardivel: right I thaught it was much more than that :-) | 14:42 |
| acabot_ | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 14:43 |
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| acabot_ | #info we realized that adding actions implies a code modification in the planner and this should be improved | 14:44 |
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| tkaczynski | question: what's the process to submit a new BP for review? | 14:44 |
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| vincentfrancoise | I submitted a BP for this BTW #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/generic-planner | 14:44 |
| acabot_ | tkaczynski: are you talking about BP or specs ? | 14:45 |
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| tkaczynski | sorry, spec for existing BP | 14:45 |
| acabot_ | vincentfrancoise: ok great thx | 14:45 |
| tkaczynski | (scoring-module in mind) | 14:45 |
| gzhai2 | tkaczynski: check watcher-specs.git | 14:46 |
| acabot_ | tkaczynski: there is a quick doc here to submit our first patch https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher/Contributing | 14:46 |
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| tpeoples | tkaczynski: https://github.com/openstack/watcher-specs is the repo that holds the specs. https://github.com/openstack/watcher-specs/blob/master/specs/mitaka/approved/mitaka-template.rst is the example spec file | 14:47 |
| tkaczynski | yes, I've seen the watcher-specs. repo. thanks acabot_ and tpeoples | 14:47 |
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| acabot_ | tkaczynski : do not hesitate to ping me on IRC if you are in trouble with git review ;-) | 14:48 |
| tkaczynski | I wasn't sure how to do reviews, there's a tool for that, cool | 14:48 |
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| acabot_ | tkaczynski: yes we use gerrit for specs and code | 14:48 |
| tkaczynski | acabot_ thanks :) | 14:48 |
| acabot_ | #topic Open Discussion | 14:49 |
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| dtardivel | acabot_: talking about BP, in Launchpad, some BP are not updated with URL of their spec. We should have a look on them ... | 14:49 |
| acabot_ | dtardivel: yes I try to do it every time a spec is merged but I did not this week.. | 14:50 |
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| gzhai2 | setup package name is python-watcher instead of watcher, why? | 14:51 |
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| acabot_ | gzhai2: watcher was already in use on pypi | 14:51 |
| acabot_ | as we are in open discussion, I do not really understand why we had a big slow down right after the mid-cycle | 14:51 |
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| acabot_ | was it because we tried to put too much BPs in the Mitaka-3 serie ? | 14:52 |
| tkaczynski | from my side - devstack setup stopped me. I had tons of issues which were resolved only few days ago | 14:52 |
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| tkaczynski | now playing catch up with spec and implementation | 14:53 |
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| tpeoples | no, that wasn't the issue for me acabot_. internal work that came up unfortunately. was just bad timing to happen right after the midcycle | 14:53 |
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| tpeoples | when do summit talks that were accepted get released? | 14:54 |
| acabot_ | around March 10th | 14:55 |
| acabot_ | right after the early bird tickets ends | 14:55 |
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| hvprash | Hi Guys ! Just introducing.. I am a new member and interested in this project. At Walmart we have similar challenges for resource optimization and we would like to start playing with watcher and have some interesting use cases. Also, looking forward to contribute. | 14:55 |
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| tpeoples | welcome hvprash | 14:56 |
| acabot_ | hvprash : you are more than welcome ! | 14:56 |
| gzhai2 | Welcome | 14:56 |
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| hvprash | thx, this is my first meeting and have been reading the docs. | 14:56 |
| dtardivel | hi hvprash :) | 14:56 |
| acabot_ | hvprash : did you already looked at Watcher code ? | 14:56 |
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| acabot_ | hvprash: ok great, we have a complete devstack setup now | 14:57 |
| acabot_ | hvprash: it should be quite easy to set up ;-) | 14:57 |
| tkaczynski | ;-) | 14:57 |
| hvprash | acobot_, may have some question on setting it up initially ? whats the best way to ask help and get acquainted ? | 14:57 |
| acabot_ | hvprash: please use IRC #openstack-watcher | 14:58 |
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| acabot_ | there is always someone here to help you | 14:58 |
| hvprash | awesome ! thx a lot | 14:58 |
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| acabot_ | hvprash : do you plan to be in Austin ? | 14:58 |
| hvprash | yes | 14:58 |
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| acabot_ | great, we will have meetings there | 14:58 |
| hvprash | would like to meet you all and share our problems and challenges and how we can help | 14:59 |
| acabot_ | looks great | 14:59 |
| acabot_ | so time is over | 14:59 |
| jwcroppe | hvprash: look forward to meeting you | 14:59 |
| acabot_ | thank you everyone | 14:59 |
| jwcroppe | thanks | 14:59 |
| vincentfrancoise | thanks | 14:59 |
| tpeoples | talk to you later | 14:59 |
| hvprash | thx everyone | 14:59 |
| dtardivel | thanks acabot_ | 14:59 |
| brunograz | bye | 14:59 |
| dtardivel | bye | 14:59 |
| acabot_ | bye | 14:59 |
| vmahe | bye | 14:59 |
| tkaczynski | bye | 15:00 |
| acabot_ | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 2 15:00:02 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-03-02-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-03-02-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| gzhai2 | bye | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-03-02-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| jasondotstar | #startmeeting vahana | 15:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 2 15:05:51 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jasondotstar. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vahana' | 15:05 |
| jasondotstar | sorry I'm late, but this will be a short meeting anyway | 15:06 |
| jasondotstar | #topic roll call | 15:06 |
| jasondotstar | o. | 15:06 |
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| jasondotstar | o/ | 15:06 |
| Ng | .o/ | 15:06 |
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| jasondotstar | hey Ng | 15:06 |
| jasondotstar | #topic Introduction | 15:06 |
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| jasondotstar | This meeting is for the OpenStack Vahana project | 15:06 |
| jasondotstar | We're building an iOS-based client for OpenStack, in the form of one or more frameworks for interacting with the OS API, and *possibly* front end app | 15:06 |
| jasondotstar | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-mobile-ios-brainstorm | 15:06 |
| jasondotstar | Interested parties are encouraged to join the #openstack-vahana IRC channel | 15:07 |
| jasondotstar | #topic Action Items from Last Meeting | 15:07 |
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| jasondotstar | jasondotstar to close out on the local dev documentation | 15:07 |
| jasondotstar | not done :-x | 15:07 |
| jasondotstar | working on it still. I'll get sphinx setup to convert this | 15:07 |
| jasondotstar | but for now you can see the raw documentation here: | 15:08 |
| jasondotstar | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-vahana-local-dev | 15:08 |
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| jasondotstar | ok next | 15:09 |
| jasondotstar | Ng to continue conversations with Beth regarding the Ironic plugin effort | 15:09 |
| jasondotstar | #action jasondotstar to close out on the local dev documentation (continued) | 15:09 |
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| jasondotstar | Ng: anything worth noting here? | 15:10 |
| Ng | nothing | 15:10 |
| jasondotstar | cool. | 15:10 |
| jasondotstar | #action Ng to continue to monitor the Ironic plugin effort. Report findings (when available) | 15:11 |
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| jasondotstar | #topic Todays Agenda | 15:11 |
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| jasondotstar | there's not much at all. :-( | 15:11 |
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| jasondotstar | I did get an email back from piet | 15:11 |
| piet | Huh? | 15:11 |
| jasondotstar | hey piet if you're around, can you chime in on it | 15:11 |
| piet | Sure | 15:12 |
| jasondotstar | ohai, piet | 15:12 |
| jasondotstar | :-) | 15:12 |
| piet | What do you need? | 15:12 |
| jasondotstar | you sent me an email where you were talking with someone about the mobile use case stuff | 15:12 |
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| jasondotstar | i guess this was in response to my email to you about how the Man Ops UK sess went | 15:12 |
| jasondotstar | care to elaborate? | 15:12 |
| jasondotstar | piet: ^ | 15:13 |
| piet | I did collect a number of names of folks that may potentially want to contribute as participants | 15:13 |
| piet | I think we havea bigger issues, not specific to mobile, on the willingness of the organizers to inlcude research | 15:14 |
| piet | jasondotstar you have a few names - I'll try to send more this afternoon | 15:14 |
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| piet | I also think that we may need to focus on end users (cloud consumers) because there maybe more of a need for a mobile app | 15:15 |
| piet | Also, quotas has some potential | 15:15 |
| piet | Coolio? | 15:15 |
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| piet | jasondotstar ^ | 15:17 |
| jasondotstar | yes | 15:18 |
| jasondotstar | +1 | 15:18 |
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| jasondotstar | #agreed the focus may have to shift to collecting use cases from end-user/cloud consumer types instead of the Ops audience | 15:18 |
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| jasondotstar | thanks piet | 15:18 |
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| jasondotstar | so i think that's about it for now | 15:19 |
| jasondotstar | unless Ng, piet, or anyone else has something to add | 15:19 |
| jasondotstar | .... | 15:19 |
| piet | Newp | 15:19 |
| jasondotstar | s/from end-user/to end-user/g | 15:19 |
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| jasondotstar | ok cool | 15:19 |
| piet | jasondotstar Feel free to schedule time with me this week to discuss | 15:19 |
| jasondotstar | piet: will do | 15:20 |
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| jasondotstar | with that, I think we'll adjourn | 15:21 |
| jasondotstar | thanks all | 15:21 |
| jasondotstar | #endmeeting | 15:21 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 2 15:21:28 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:21 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vahana/2016/vahana.2016-03-02-15.05.html | 15:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vahana/2016/vahana.2016-03-02-15.05.txt | 15:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vahana/2016/vahana.2016-03-02-15.05.log.html | 15:21 |
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| dougwig | #startmeeting networking_lib | 17:30 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 2 17:30:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dougwig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:30 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_lib' | 17:30 |
| dougwig | On my phone, so bear with me | 17:30 |
| dougwig | #topic Annoucements | 17:30 |
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| kevinbenton | Hi | 17:30 |
| HenryG | o/ | 17:31 |
| dougwig | Mitaka crush is upon us. Merging lib should be secondary, as we don't want to add to merge conflicts. | 17:31 |
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| dougwig | #topic open discussion | 17:31 |
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| dougwig | HenryG: base db patch? | 17:31 |
| HenryG | Yes, it's coming | 17:32 |
| dougwig | Eta? | 17:32 |
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| HenryG | Basically just needs more unit test coverage | 17:32 |
| dougwig | I want to get Lbaas depending only on lib before the summit. | 17:32 |
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| dougwig | Ok. Need any help on that? | 17:32 |
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| HenryG | I might just push up the patch for feedback on that | 17:33 |
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| dougwig | kevinbenton is sitting next to me. He says he can look at the agent stuff post crush. | 17:35 |
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| dougwig | Anything else, or let's get back to feature freeze? | 17:36 |
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| HenryG | Why is kevinbenton sitting next to everyone? | 17:36 |
| dougwig | I'm in sj. We are having eggs. | 17:37 |
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| dougwig | Ok let's get back to -2 and dream crushing. | 17:38 |
| dougwig | #endmeeting | 17:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 2 17:38:13 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_lib/2016/networking_lib.2016-03-02-17.30.html | 17:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_lib/2016/networking_lib.2016-03-02-17.30.txt | 17:38 |
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| HenryG | kevinbenton: dougwig: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcbXB2JW0AgX6Rk.jpg | 17:40 |
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| rockyg | Anybody here for log_wg? jokke_ ? rbradfor ? | 21:01 |
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| jokke_ | I am | 21:02 |
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| jokke_ | thanks for the hilight rockyg | 21:02 |
| rockyg | Kewl | 21:02 |
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| rockyg | #startmeeting #log_wg | 21:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 2 21:03:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rockyg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:03 |
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| rockyg | #topic RequestID in log messages | 21:04 |
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| rockyg | Abhishek has mostly finished getting requestIDs into the projects and is moving now to get them into logs. | 21:05 |
| rockyg | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/087878.html is where he starts the discusssion | 21:06 |
| * dhellmann slides in a bit late | 21:06 | |
| rockyg | Hey dhellmann ! | 21:06 |
| rockyg | Talking requestIDs into log messages. Perfect day to be here. | 21:06 |
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| jokke_ | dhellmann: o/ | 21:07 |
| dhellmann | hi, rockyg | 21:07 |
| dhellmann | hi, johnthetubaguy | 21:07 |
| dhellmann | oops, jokke_ | 21:07 |
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| rbradfor | sorry, was out | 21:08 |
| jokke_ | I'm bit concerned about that req ID list to be dumped to the logs | 21:08 |
| * jokke_ needs to subscribe back to the mailing lists | 21:08 | |
| rockyg | I agree the log format sucks, but we can work on that first, does adding request_utils module to oslo.log make sense? | 21:09 |
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| * dhellmann goes to look at what's in request_utils | 21:09 | |
| rockyg | This is where dhellmann and rbradfor have the best info. Let's give them time to look into this. | 21:10 |
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| rbradfor | while we are talking about request-ids (and this is likely a larger cross project discussion), a.) is "req-" needed, b) can you shorten the display of ids (e.g. like we do for git commits) | 21:11 |
| rockyg | I've been doing a lousy job of actually putting stuff together this cycle. Involved in too many projects/work groups I apologize | 21:11 |
| rockyg | So, how to differentiate req- from uuid? | 21:11 |
| dhellmann | I don't even see that module any more | 21:12 |
| rbradfor | rockyg why do you have to? | 21:12 |
| rockyg | dhellmann, could it be in incubator? | 21:12 |
| dhellmann | rockyg : not my copy | 21:12 |
| rbradfor | and looking at the email, duplication: INFO tempest.tests [req-a0df655b-18a2-4510-9e85-b9435dh8ye4 admin admin] Request ID Link: request.link 'req-a0df655b-18a2-4510-9e85-b9435dh8ye4' -> Target='nova' TargetId=req-f0fb885b-18a2-4510-9e85-b9066b410ee4 | 21:13 |
| dhellmann | we deleted all the remaining code in the incubator earlier this cycle, so we'll have to recover it from an older git commit, I guess | 21:13 |
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| rbradfor | so it seems one could use like my idea of 7-8 digits for first in the list (as it's part of the [context] already) | 21:13 |
| rockyg | oh, sorry dhellmann . He wants to resurrect it. | 21:13 |
| jokke_ | rbradfor: that req- prefix was specific request from ops over multiple conversations ... reasoning, can't remember | 21:13 |
| rbradfor | jokke_, ok, happy with explanation. | 21:14 |
| rbradfor | there was somebody wanting to or proposed a review to remove it recently | 21:14 |
| rockyg | So, I don't think Ops cares about how we specify the ids, just so they can tell what they are. | 21:14 |
| * rbradfor wishes some things like ids were shorter then they are, and they contained structure, not just randomized | 21:15 | |
| rockyg | This is where the syslog key-value section of the its header can be valuable. originator: xxx, caller: xxx, called: xxx | 21:16 |
| jokke_ | yeah iirc ops were pretty open for the actual ID type itself during the conversations as long as it was unique and there was some indication that it's the request id (other than just position where it shows up) | 21:16 |
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| jokke_ | rbradfor: I totally agree having to log multiple ID's just makes log lines ridiculously long and difficult for human to parse | 21:17 |
| rockyg | rbradfor, well, reqid *could* use a smaller UUID size. Or, that could be a config option (might be best -- default as is but let ops set it based on their cloud size as appropriate) | 21:17 |
| rbradfor | I do not know the varied details of uuid lengths in python, except it does exist. I guess some things need to potentially be more unique then others, so is the config of length project wide or note. It's probably way to difficult to implement, and a discussion for elsewhere | 21:19 |
| rbradfor | anyway, I digress | 21:20 |
| dhellmann | this appears to be the request_utils code? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170074/ | 21:20 |
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| rockyg | The ability to define size is already in oslo. Saw it somewhere. You can pick the number of bits | 21:20 |
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| dhellmann | as far as I know, we're using uuid4 everywhere, which are random numbers. All UUID values have the same length, unless you format them without the - in the middle. | 21:21 |
| rbradfor | rockyg, not using oslo.context http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.context/tree/oslo_context/context.py#n40 | 21:21 |
| rockyg | Ah. OK. Thanks. | 21:21 |
| rbradfor | but some projects could be using their own id generation, | 21:21 |
| dhellmann | some do, and they end up with longer request ids iirc | 21:22 |
| dhellmann | I think heat is the canonical example of that | 21:22 |
| dhellmann | is the idea to include the id chain in every line, or log it once when the request starts? | 21:23 |
| rockyg | Idea is to log every time a handoff from client to project or project to project happens. | 21:23 |
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| dhellmann | ok. I'm not sure the best place to put that, to be honest | 21:24 |
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| dhellmann | possibly oslo.context? | 21:24 |
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| dhellmann | frankly, we might want to implement it in one service first and see what the results look like before we pick a library to act as home for the code | 21:25 |
| rockyg | We could do it every message, but *very* redundant over time. but Ops might like it. Or prefer the other. Have to ask on that one | 21:25 |
| dhellmann | oh, no, I don't think we want that, it just wasn't clear what the proposal was | 21:25 |
| rockyg | Here is the way I thought we could include it in the log message: STRUCTURED-DATA = NILVALUE / 1*SD-ELEMENT | 21:26 |
| rockyg | SD-ELEMENT = "[" SD-ID *(SP SD-PARAM) "]" | 21:26 |
| rockyg | SD-PARAM = PARAM-NAME "=" %d34 PARAM-VALUE %d34 | 21:26 |
| rockyg | SD-ID = SD-NAME | 21:26 |
| rockyg | PARAM-NAME = SD-NAME PARAM-VALUE = UTF-8-STRING ; characters '"', '\' and ; ']' MUST be escaped. | 21:26 |
| rockyg | SD-NAME = 1*32PRINTUSASCII | 21:26 |
| rockyg | ; except '=', SP, ']', %d34 (") | 21:26 |
| jokke_ | well the hand off is one thing, but there is no much of joy about it in the logs unless it gets logged in the actual log lines as well | 21:26 |
| dhellmann | the question is whether we need it in every line for it to be useful | 21:28 |
| rockyg | This is the last header field for syslog message format. We could do SD-ID = ReqId then originating: dispatching: received: As the three | 21:28 |
| rockyg | Every handoff would need to be logged. | 21:28 |
| rockyg | I am not positive, but I think there is enough redundancy in the rest of the log message that instance id would be trackable in between the handoffs. | 21:29 |
| dhellmann | logging just the hand-offs is relatively straightforward, we just have to find all of the places to do that | 21:30 |
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| rockyg | right. And I believe Abhi took care of that when he instituted the requestID stuff in the API calls/returns | 21:30 |
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| rockyg | Using the syslog format, we could do one project as POC and the field would be [-] for where it's not implemented | 21:32 |
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| dhellmann | I'm not sure what you mean? If we're logging discrete events, when would we have an empty field? | 21:34 |
| jokke_ | dhellmann: the whole point of req ID was to enable tracking requests on flailure | 21:34 |
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| jokke_ | dhellmann: if we do have busy system and no request id in logs we have no idea what error is related to what request | 21:35 |
| dhellmann | it is already possible to always log the *current* request id | 21:35 |
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| jokke_ | dhellmann: yes | 21:35 |
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| dhellmann | I thought this was about logging "I just called from nova into glance from request X to request Y" | 21:35 |
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| dhellmann | and that's one line, and if you don't have both X ad Y then why are you even logging it? | 21:36 |
| dhellmann | or am I misunderstanding something more fundamental? sorry, I've been out of touch with this stuff for a bit so it may have changed from when I last looked. | 21:36 |
| rockyg | dhellmann, if the SD-ELEMENT has not been added to the the log message call, syslog format would automatically put in the [-]. Once the sd element is added, it would appear in the message properly | 21:36 |
| jokke_ | a-ha! sorry my bad ... stuck on the previous proposal of this having list of req- IDs that has gone through system | 21:37 |
| dhellmann | rockyg : I'm afraid I don't know what those abbreviations mean. What is "SD"? | 21:37 |
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| rockyg | from the exerpt of the RFC 5424 "SD" is structured data. It's the last field in the syslog header format. | 21:38 |
| jokke_ | but that was what the client were proposed returning, not what gets logged it seems | 21:38 |
| rockyg | Right now, each project creates its own req-ID when it starts a task. Abhi's just finished work returns those req-ids in the API response. Now he/we want to collect them in a log message. | 21:39 |
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| dhellmann | rockyg : our syslog API has a log level and a message field. The message is, as far as I can tell, formatted using the same configuration option that is used to specify the log line format for regular formatters. I haven't used that in production with syslog, so I'm not sure if there is extra punctuation added or noth | 21:41 |
| dhellmann | *not | 21:41 |
| rockyg | Every time an api call results in a new req-id, we would put the new one in the "received" or "called" keypair, put the reqid of the process that made the api call in the "caller" or "dispatched" keypair and the original client call stays the same in the originator keypair | 21:41 |
| dhellmann | rockyg : if service A is calling service B, do I do the logging in A or in B? | 21:42 |
| dhellmann | or both? | 21:42 |
| rockyg | I originally thought A but that doesn't make all that much sense. I think B. The ops guys are talking about using logstash + elastic search or other agregators to get all related log messages | 21:44 |
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| rockyg | A and B would be more robust, but I am not sure we need that. The key is ops want to see where the line breaks if something doesn't happen. | 21:45 |
| jokke_ | well we can't log A's req ID in B because that req ID doesn't get sent to B | 21:46 |
| rockyg | A andB would allow quick determination that handoff didn't happen but B would show the breakage point. | 21:46 |
| rockyg | jokke_, that's how it doesn't make sense ;-) | 21:47 |
| jokke_ | so only place to log that is in A after B has returned | 21:47 |
| dhellmann | ok, so we log requests in A after B returns, since the response from B includes the request id | 21:47 |
| jokke_ | dhellmann: that's the only way to do that | 21:47 |
| rockyg | Oh, good. The mistake in my logic is found. Thank you! | 21:48 |
| dhellmann | so A is logging "I just called B with request id Y" and A's request id X is automatically already in the log output | 21:48 |
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| jokke_ | so you need to parse ahead to seek the request ID that has been logged, then roll back in time to look the service B logs what happened | 21:48 |
| rockyg | Yeah. Hopefully. If not, we have to insert it. | 21:48 |
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| dhellmann | so I guess the next step is to either update everywhere we have a client call, or just update the clients, to log the request ids | 21:49 |
| dhellmann | if we do it in the clients, using python's standard logging, the overrides from the apps that use oslo.log will give them the current request as part of the format string | 21:50 |
| dhellmann | so the question is, do we actually want to do it in the clients, or do we want to do it where the clients are used? | 21:51 |
| dhellmann | the latter is a lot more changes | 21:51 |
| jokke_ | dhellmann: based on the previous discussions around the topic I doubt people want's that logging to happen by the client | 21:51 |
| dhellmann | the former would mean always logging a given call at the same level, though | 21:51 |
| rockyg | Here's another question: client says: give me a vm. Sends to Nova. Nova send to Neutron: give me a network Does "give me a network" call come from a client? | 21:52 |
| dhellmann | ok, so we need to find all outgoing client calls in all apps and wrap them with try:finally and log calls I guess | 21:52 |
| dhellmann | rockyg : yes, nova uses neutron client to talk to neutron | 21:52 |
| rockyg | Cool. | 21:52 |
| rockyg | I believe the amount of work necessary is moot as Abhi and his team plan on doing it. | 21:53 |
| dhellmann | well, it's not, because that's a *lot* of code churn and reviews | 21:53 |
| rockyg | That's true. Sorry. Wasn't thinking it through. | 21:53 |
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| jokke_ | yes that brings lots of of big reviews or huge amount of small reviews | 21:54 |
| dhellmann | it's much less work all around to log from within the clients, so I'm curious about why that was rejected | 21:54 |
| rockyg | So, Abhi's email proposed three options: putting the utils in oslo.log, putting it into oslo.utils or putting it in the individual projects. I believe 3 equates to the every client? | 21:55 |
| dhellmann | yes, at least | 21:55 |
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| dhellmann | it's not clear how the request_utils.py code applies to this, if I've found the right version | 21:55 |
| dhellmann | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170074/2/openstack/common/request_utils.py | 21:55 |
| dhellmann | it looks like it just builds a very verbose log message? | 21:57 |
| dhellmann | well, and there's the notifier bit at the end | 21:57 |
| jokke_ | rockyg: if it's not done by client there is no way it's done anywhere without logging specifically after each client call | 21:57 |
| rockyg | Yeah. That's not gonna work. I see now. His email just restates the code implementation. | 21:58 |
| dhellmann | jokke_, rockyg : I guess my point is, why do we even need a function for this? it's just a call to the logger. | 21:58 |
| rockyg | So I believe the answer is, that's not the way to do this, and we suggest what we just discussed. | 21:58 |
| jokke_ | dhellmann: I totally agree | 21:58 |
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| dhellmann | logging.getLogger(__name__).info('%(current_function)s used request ids [%(request_id_chain)s]') | 21:59 |
| rockyg | It goes in clients. It utilizes the syslog structured data field in the message header. Point him to this discussion | 21:59 |
| dhellmann | rockyg : we do not, by default, use syslog, so we have to leave that part out | 22:00 |
| jokke_ | rockyg: as said I highly doubt community will agree clients doing that logging | 22:00 |
| jokke_ | as people tends to be really touchy libs logging stuff | 22:00 |
| rockyg | Cool. So, it's just adding the extra formatter field, plus the related code. So, how do we do the logging in B rather than A? How do we get A's request ID and the originating ID? | 22:01 |
| jokke_ | we're out of time | 22:01 |
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| jokke_ | rockyg: we don't | 22:01 |
| rockyg | Argh. | 22:02 |
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| jokke_ | rockyg: and that extra formatter field won't help as someone needs to initiate that log event | 22:02 |
| rockyg | Well, great discussion. We point him to this and continue the ML discussion. | 22:02 |
| jokke_ | thanks everyone | 22:03 |
| rockyg | Is that reasonable for the next week worth of design? | 22:03 |
| rockyg | And Yes. Gotta go. docs has this channel next. | 22:03 |
| dhellmann | yeah, let's continue on the mailing list | 22:03 |
| rbradfor | ok, later | 22:03 |
| rockyg | #endmeeting | 22:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 2 22:03:47 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/_log_wg/2016/_log_wg.2016-03-02-21.03.html | 22:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/_log_wg/2016/_log_wg.2016-03-02-21.03.txt | 22:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/_log_wg/2016/_log_wg.2016-03-02-21.03.log.html | 22:03 |
| rockyg | Than ks everybody. I think it was a valuable discussion. | 22:03 |
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| sdake_ | #startmeeting kolla | 23:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 2 23:00:32 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 23:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 23:00 |
| sdake_ | #topic rollcall | 23:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 23:00 |
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| nihilifer | o/ | 23:00 |
| Jeffrey4l | o/ | 23:00 |
| akwasnie | o/ | 23:00 |
| dgonzalez | o/ | 23:00 |
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| rhallisey | hello | 23:01 |
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| mandre | o/ | 23:01 |
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| vhosakot | \o\ /o/ | 23:01 |
| sdake_ | o/ :) | 23:01 |
| rhallisey | what a rare sight it's mandre ! | 23:01 |
| asalkeld | o/ | 23:01 |
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| mandre | rhallisey, i almost didn't make it | 23:02 |
| rhallisey | must be early for you | 23:02 |
| sdake_ | age before beauty asalkeld :) | 23:02 |
| asalkeld | lol | 23:02 |
| rhallisey | oh 8am not bad | 23:02 |
| mandre | movers will be at my door in about an hour :/ | 23:02 |
| sdake_ | #topic announcements | 23:02 |
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| mandre | and kid is sick | 23:02 |
| sdake_ | I have no announcements other then kolla will be tagged sometime in the next 2 days | 23:03 |
| sdake_ | so please finish up essential and high blueprints | 23:03 |
| rhallisey | how about grabbing reconfig patches? | 23:03 |
| rhallisey | well that can be later.. | 23:03 |
| sdake_ | ya if you want some easy esaywork reconfig needs doing | 23:03 |
| vhosakot | what time on March 4th is the deadline ? | 23:03 |
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| dave-mccowan | o/ | 23:03 |
| sdake_ | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/kolla-reconfig | 23:04 |
| sdake_ | it literally took me 5 minutes to copy jeffrey4l's work and apply it for heat | 23:04 |
| sdake_ | because I like heat :) | 23:04 |
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| sdake_ | I live in arizona fwiw :) | 23:04 |
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| Jeffrey4l | yea. it is very easy now. | 23:04 |
| rhallisey | same w/ ironic just need to test.. env isn't work atm | 23:04 |
| SamYaple | o/ | 23:04 |
| SamYaple | im here | 23:04 |
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| sdake_ | #topic olla Austin Summit topics | 23:05 |
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| sdake_ | ok timebox 10 mins | 23:05 |
| sdake_ | lets finish up adding to hte etherpad | 23:05 |
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| mandre | sdake_, link please? | 23:06 |
| sdake_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-newton-summit | 23:06 |
| mandre | thanks | 23:06 |
| sdake_ | mandre i can only type so fast ;) | 23:06 |
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| rhallisey | sdake_, do you have a number of session we're getting | 23:06 |
| rhallisey | may be too early to ask | 23:06 |
| sdake_ | pleae also if you think the session should be a fishbowl write F at the end, if a Design sessoin write D at the end | 23:06 |
| sdake_ | rhallisey we ask based upon how many we have planned, and get a set amount based upon global project needs | 23:07 |
| sdake_ | so in essence the more we ask for, the more we will get | 23:07 |
| rhallisey | roger | 23:07 |
| sdake_ | but we probably wont get all our slots | 23:07 |
| sdake_ | we are he 7th most active big tent project | 23:07 |
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| sdake_ | summit space is determined by activity in commits and reviews I think | 23:07 |
| vhosakot | features ? | 23:07 |
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| sdake_ | i'd like to see some mesos design sessions i there folks | 23:08 |
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| sdake_ | i'm going to ask for a full day contributor meetup rhallisey so whatever we dont tackle we can tackle in our day meetup | 23:09 |
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| rhallisey | great | 23:10 |
| asalkeld | sdake_: i'll add some | 23:10 |
| sdake_ | timebox 1 0mins starting now - we will finish as 4:20 :) | 23:10 |
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| sdake_ | pbourke-mobile https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-newton-summit | 23:11 |
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| sdake_ | dont vote with +1s vote with D or F plz :) | 23:15 |
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| SamYaple | i say we vote with everyone writing down thier favorite topics | 23:15 |
| SamYaple | then everyone votes 1-6 on those | 23:16 |
| vhosakot | what is F and D ? | 23:16 |
| SamYaple | bad grades in school | 23:16 |
| vhosakot | ah | 23:16 |
| SamYaple | vhosakot: im kidding fishbowl vs design session | 23:17 |
| vhosakot | ah got it :) | 23:17 |
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| sdake_ | 3 minutes to finish voting D or F plz :) | 23:18 |
| SamYaple | simple recheck works, no need to rebase sdake_ | 23:18 |
| sdake_ | SamYaple better be careful i'll pull out the standard deviation | 23:18 |
| SamYaple | at least it will be balanced and wieght right ;) | 23:19 |
| sdake_ | ok well folks if you care about those sessions please vote D or F - if you want to add stuff - feel free to add | 23:19 |
| sdake_ | we are unlikely to get 24 spots so I may ahve to trim | 23:19 |
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| sdake_ | #topic Mitaka-3 release announcement | 23:20 |
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| sdake_ | in the future we will be using reno for release noting | 23:21 |
| sdake_ | but for the moment its back to good old trusty etherpad | 23:21 |
| SamYaple | as in after mitaka yes? | 23:21 |
| sdake_ | #ink https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/announce-kolla-mitaka-3 | 23:21 |
| sdake_ | time box 15 minutes | 23:21 |
| SamYaple | sdake_: link is wrong | 23:21 |
| SamYaple | also asked question above | 23:21 |
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| sdake_ | how is link wrong? | 23:23 |
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| sdake_ | time box 15 minutes please start writing ;) | 23:24 |
| vhosakot | I can see typed text in link | 23:24 |
| mandre | sdake_, you typed 'ink' | 23:24 |
| SamYaple | sdake_: it says "#ink" | 23:25 |
| sdake_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/announce-kolla-mitaka-3 | 23:25 |
| vhosakot | where is the logfile written ? /var/log/kolla ? | 23:27 |
| SamYaple | vhosakot: most logs files are yes | 23:27 |
| vhosakot | cool | 23:27 |
| vhosakot | is there log-rotation as well ? | 23:28 |
| sdake_ | 7 minutes left in our timebox | 23:28 |
| sdake_ | we have 40 blueprints in the tracker | 23:28 |
| sdake_ | can folks open up the tracker and help put stuff in the etherpad plz :) | 23:28 |
| vhosakot | sdake_: can you send the link to the bp tracker please | 23:28 |
| vhosakot | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla ? | 23:28 |
| sdake_ | #link https://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/mitaka-3 | 23:29 |
| vhosakot | thanks! | 23:29 |
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| sdake_ | there must be more - docker 1.10? | 23:32 |
| vhosakot | there is "Upgrade to Docker 1.10.z" | 23:33 |
| sdake_ | yes i just added it | 23:33 |
| vhosakot | cool | 23:33 |
| sdake_ | are there other bluepritns in good progress that should be mentioned? | 23:34 |
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| mandre | Manilla maybe? | 23:35 |
| mandre | not sure the status on this one is... | 23:35 |
| sdake_ | mandre add it in | 23:35 |
| sdake_ | its in | 23:35 |
| sdake_ | #link Essential blueprints status | 23:36 |
| sdake_ | #undo | 23:36 |
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| sdake_ | #topic Essential blueprints status | 23:36 |
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| sdake_ | #link https://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/mitaka-3 | 23:36 |
| sdake_ | SamYaple is mariadb lights out going to make friday? | 23:37 |
| sdake_ | can folks spend a moment going through their blueprints and setting them to the correct states please | 23:38 |
| sdake_ | Jeffrey4l reconfig looks like its in good progress to me | 23:38 |
| SamYaple | sdake_: yea it should | 23:38 |
| sdake_ | Jeffrey4l the work to do is trivial | 23:38 |
| sdake_ | now that you did all the hard work ;) | 23:38 |
| Jeffrey4l | yea | 23:38 |
| sdake_ | it literally took me 5 minutes to do (but not test) heat | 23:39 |
| Jeffrey4l | ( the infra service and part of the OpenStack serivce(horizon) need more works) | 23:39 |
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| sdake_ | nihilifer you have some upgrade blueprints which look good to go and are in review, not in started state | 23:39 |
| vhosakot | I took 5mins to make changes for neutron, but testing since 2 days :( | 23:39 |
| sdake_ | they need --amendson the commit message | 23:39 |
| vhosakot | env issue and mysql permission issue,, I can re-create my VM | 23:39 |
| sdake_ | nihilifer can you do that soon like today plz? :) | 23:40 |
| Jeffrey4l | vhosakot, did a great test step doc: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-mitaka-testing-reconfigure | 23:40 |
| nihilifer | sdake_: did that for magnum. for manila i have -1 regarding another thing, but sure, will address this asap | 23:40 |
| sdake_ | dave-mccowan SamYaple is ssl done? | 23:40 |
| vhosakot | Jeffrey4l: is horizon reconfig supported / possible | 23:40 |
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| sdake_ | vhosakot this is status not open discussion :) | 23:41 |
| dave-mccowan | for ssl, a couple code review comments to address and at least one bug in horizon is all that's left | 23:41 |
| Jeffrey4l | vhosakot, wip. But not promise. | 23:41 |
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| sdake_ | dave-mccowan so everything is in the review queue? | 23:41 |
| SamYaple | sdake_: i think so | 23:41 |
| vhosakot | Jeffrey4l: I think every bp must have a testing doc/etherpad associated with it... it makes implementation fast | 23:41 |
| SamYaple | it looks almost done | 23:41 |
| vhosakot | sdake_: cool :) | 23:41 |
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| dave-mccowan | sdake, minus the fix to a horizon bug | 23:42 |
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| sdake_ | SamYaple openvswitch playboook upgrade? | 23:42 |
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| sbezverk | nihilifer sdake I just sent magnum reconfiugre for review, based on your comment above, it seemed redundant?? | 23:42 |
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| sdake_ | migration plan between docker versions we shsould probably just punt on | 23:43 |
| sdake_ | because we are going to solve that with a stable/liberty beating | 23:43 |
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| sdake_ | #topic High blueprints status | 23:44 |
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| sdake_ | pleae update your blueprints :) | 23:44 |
| sdake_ | loe you long and furious if you do | 23:44 |
| sdake_ | elemoine logging with heka is done right? | 23:44 |
| SamYaple | sdake_: openvswtich is part of neutron | 23:45 |
| sdake_ | or is it in needs code review | 23:45 |
| sdake_ | SamYaple ok - its a separate item in our tracker - don't know why - i didn't create all those bps ;) | 23:45 |
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| SamYaple | sdake_: its not i abandonded it | 23:46 |
| sdake_ | for functioanl testing in the gate, i think we hvae finished that with vm boot | 23:46 |
| SamYaple | or it shouldnt be | 23:46 |
| SamYaple | its far from done | 23:46 |
| SamYaple | vm boot isnt reporting in the gate | 23:46 |
| SamYaple | rax vm boot is bust and so is internap | 23:46 |
| sdake_ | i see | 23:46 |
| sdake_ | ok we will carry that over | 23:46 |
| sdake_ | SamYaple you abaonded what precisely? | 23:47 |
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| SamYaple | opvenswitch | 23:48 |
| sdake_ | then unset yourself from the tracker please | 23:48 |
| SamYaple | i dont know what tracker you are talking about so im going to leave that alone | 23:49 |
| sdake_ | #link https://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/mitaka-3 | 23:49 |
| sdake_ | that tracker | 23:49 |
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| sdake_ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/upgrade-openvswitch | 23:50 |
| sdake_ | assignee: Sam Yaple | 23:50 |
| SamYaple | no idea sdake that says its suprseeded | 23:50 |
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| SamYaple | this whole blueprint per service thing was messed up | 23:51 |
| sdake_ | i see, well it needs to be unset from the release | 23:51 |
| SamYaple | update whatever you need to | 23:51 |
| sdake_ | i'll take care of it | 23:51 |
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| sdake_ | ok we are essentially out of time to continue | 23:51 |
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| sdake_ | i would like folks to focus on essential and high blueprints | 23:51 |
| sdake_ | medium and low will probably not make the final release in final form unless implemented prior to friday 8am | 23:52 |
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| sdake_ | I will tag the release sometime between 8am friday and whenever kolla deploys | 23:52 |
| sdake_ | please take care not to ensure the gate is green if you workflow patches | 23:52 |
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| sdake_ | medium/low blueprints that are not implemented state will be bounced to newton | 23:53 |
| sdake_ | need to focus on priorities here | 23:53 |
| sdake_ | #topic open discussion | 23:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 23:53 | |
| sdake_ | 7 minutess | 23:53 |
| vhosakot | sdake_: is this covered by the diagnsoctics/logging bp ? -https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/1546718 | 23:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1546718 in kolla "Add logging for kolla-build" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Vikram Hosakote (vhosakot) | 23:53 |
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| vhosakot | if not, I was going to plan working on it next week | 23:54 |
| vhosakot | next week = after Friday deadline | 23:54 |
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| sdake_ | bugs are a perfect thing to fix in rcs | 23:54 |
| sdake_ | our next rc is 2 weeks from friday | 23:55 |
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| sdake_ | we have 2 rcs, each 2 weeks apart | 23:55 |
| vhosakot | ok coo | 23:55 |
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| vhosakot | cool | 23:55 |
| vhosakot | SamYaple: should we make kolla-build print better errors that "parent error" | 23:55 |
| vhosakot | SamYaple: I think this is tough to understand - http://paste.openstack.org/show/489075/ :) | 23:55 |
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| vhosakot | SamYaple: shall I fix error printing in kolla-build ? | 23:56 |
| mandre | sdake_, do you have all you need for kolla-coresec? | 23:56 |
| asalkeld | +1 from me | 23:56 |
| mandre | sorry to interrupt you vhosakot | 23:56 |
| vhosakot | np :) | 23:56 |
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| sdake_ | mandre i'll address that next meeting | 23:57 |
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| SamYaple | vhosakot: parent_error means that image didnt build, its parent errord | 23:57 |
| vhosakot | SamYaple: ok, if the error is good. cool.. I was thinking should the exception/reacon be printed | 23:58 |
| asalkeld | SamYaple: really unpleasant for a user to have to parse | 23:58 |
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| vhosakot | Another point "envlist = py34,py27,pep8,pypy" fails tox due to pypy errors... should we remove pypy in tox.ini ? | 23:58 |
| SamYaple | asalkeld: im not arguing im just saying | 23:59 |
| SamYaple | its accurate | 23:59 |
| asalkeld | sure | 23:59 |
| SamYaple | a better output wont be blocked by me..... | 23:59 |
| sdake_ | "The parent failed to build" seems good | 23:59 |
| vhosakot | cool | 23:59 |
| sdake_ | ok times up | 23:59 |
| sdake_ | thansk for coming | 23:59 |
| asalkeld | o/ | 23:59 |
| sdake_ | we got alot of godo work done today | 23:59 |
| sdake_ | keep in mind, friday is tag day | 23:59 |
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| sdake_ | try not to break the repos please ;) | 23:59 |
| vhosakot | o/ | 23:59 |
| sdake_ | #endmeeting | 23:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 23:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 2 23:59:55 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-03-02-23.00.html | 23:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-03-02-23.00.txt | 23:59 |
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