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| thingee | eglute: is the diversity meeting happening now? | 05:07 |
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| eglute | thingee no, i do not think so. there was one at this time last week though. we are also canceling all diversity meetings until march | 05:08 |
| eglute | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/foundation/2016-February/002296.html | 05:08 |
| thingee | eglute: oh, how come? | 05:08 |
| * thingee checks | 05:09 | |
| eglute | we had really low participation, even lower during this time. | 05:09 |
| eglute | we also need a lot of help from the foundation, Carol talked to Lauren today, i will send you email | 05:10 |
| thingee | eglute: ok, let me know if there is anything from the foundation that I can help with. | 05:10 |
| thingee | eglute: great! | 05:10 |
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| thingee | eglute: yeah some people are really busy viewing summit spacing atm. Anything you can pass onto me can be done probably quicker. | 05:11 |
| eglute | email sent! | 05:12 |
| eglute | thank you thingee! really appreciate your help! | 05:12 |
| thingee | eglute: absolutely. take care! | 05:13 |
| eglute | thank you! | 05:13 |
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| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, bunting | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | #startmeeting Glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 11 14:00:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| nikhil | o/ | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:00 |
| dshakhray | o/ | 14:00 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | hey folks | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | hope you all had a great week | 14:01 |
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| flaper87 | #topic Agenda | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agenda (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:01 | |
| kairat_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| ninag | o/ | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | You can find our agenda there | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | #topic Updates Glare | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates Glare (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:01 | |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: ninag | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | ops | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: nikhil | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:01 |
| mfedosin | it happened | 14:02 |
| mfedosin | finally | 14:02 |
| mfedosin | Glare is officially here | 14:02 |
| mfedosin | we merged it last night | 14:02 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | nnnnnnice | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | well done folks | 14:03 |
| mfedosin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255274/ | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | thanks to everyone for the reviews | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | Now, let's get the spec together and prepare for Newton | 14:03 |
| mfedosin | thanks everyone who helped there | 14:03 |
| mfedosin | yes, we began to work on the spec with kairat and nikhil | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | cool. Do you have an ETA ? | 14:04 |
| mfedosin | I present a small draft of api on the latest glare meeting | 14:04 |
| mfedosin | definitely before summit | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | I'd suggest for it to be ready by M-3 | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | That gives enough time for discussions to happen before the summit | 14:04 |
| mfedosin | but actually it must be done before 23th of February | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | so that summit can be used to polish some other things | 14:04 |
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| flaper87 | coolio | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | anything else? | 14:05 |
| mfedosin | yes | 14:05 |
| mfedosin | one question | 14:05 |
| mfedosin | I wrote a small doc about Glare | 14:05 |
| mfedosin | and I wonder if we can merge it in Glance docs | 14:05 |
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| mfedosin | it's like FAQ about Glare | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | Is that the doc you shared at the virtual mid cycle? | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | I don't think people would be mad for having more docs | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | (or some docs) | 14:06 |
| * flaper87 ducks | 14:06 | |
| mfedosin | I didn't share anything there :) | 14:07 |
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| mfedosin | just a small pic | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: mmh, you did show us a diagram | 14:07 |
| nikhil | it was shared in the artifacts meeting | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | oh ok | 14:07 |
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| rosmaita | mfedosin: the doc team wants each project to take more responsibility, so adding a glare faq sounds like a great idea | 14:07 |
| mfedosin | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D4Hik0-XNqwi43gxtybCs9-fMqh5IAIu8CHB33e46OQ/edit | 14:07 |
| mfedosin | this one | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | anyway, I think it's fine to have more docs. Let's review all that on gerrit | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D4Hik0-XNqwi43gxtybCs9-fMqh5IAIu8CHB33e46OQ/edit | 14:08 |
| mfedosin | Olena will help me with that | 14:08 |
| nikhil | I guess the ques from mfedosin and I is | 14:08 |
| nikhil | can we propose it against glance source tree? | 14:08 |
| nikhil | or would people mind it? | 14:08 |
| mfedosin | or it should go to OpenStack wiki | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | I don't think there's an issue with that. Glare is part of Glance's source. As long as it's in rst format, I think it's ok | 14:09 |
| nikhil | I know searchlight project has awesome in tree docs | 14:09 |
| mfedosin | flaper87: wow | 14:09 |
| nikhil | cool | 14:09 |
| mfedosin | thank you for that | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | coolio | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | anything else? | 14:09 |
| mfedosin | nothing from my side | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | i think stuff in the wiki gets ignored, i vote for putting it in with the glance docs | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | plus, it's hard to update the wiki | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | and the session lasts less than my hopes for a better world | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | and my hopes for a better world don't last long.... like nothing | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | anyway | 14:11 |
| * flaper87 should stop saying dumb stuff | 14:11 | |
| flaper87 | moving on | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | #topic Updates Nova v2 -> v1 (it's not a typo) | 14:11 |
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| mfedosin | oh | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | it's painful | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | :( | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | yeah | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | but we have good news and bad news | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | good news are: | 14:12 |
| * nikhil chuckles on mfedosin's style of updates | 14:12 | |
| mfedosin | I spent three sleepless night, but made it work | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | hooray! | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | \o/ | 14:12 |
| mfedosin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259097/ | 14:12 |
| mfedosin | everything | 14:12 |
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| mfedosin | xen plugin, ceph... | 14:13 |
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| mfedosin | Also I got a lot of comments from Bob Ball | 14:13 |
| mfedosin | they were really useful | 14:13 |
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| flaper87 | mfedosin: man, you better be in Austin because I'm buying you drinks | 14:13 |
| mfedosin | I hope he likes the patch | 14:13 |
| mfedosin | I'll be prepare :) | 14:14 |
| mfedosin | but also there is bad news: | 14:14 |
| mfedosin | John -2'ed the patches | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: more updates ? | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | or are you just dropping the bad news on me | 14:14 |
| mclaren | I saw that | 14:14 |
| mfedosin | because they are non-priority | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | ? | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | oh, my IRC is lagging | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | :( | 14:15 |
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| mfedosin | I'm going to send a message in ML | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | "Sorry, we have now hit the Non-Priority Feature Freeze for Mitaka. For more details please see: http://docs.openstack.org/releases/schedules/mitaka.html#m-nova-npff and http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/process.html#non-priority-feature-freeze" | 14:15 |
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| mfedosin | because afais too many people want it | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | so, FWIW, this work is not a priority for Nova but it is for Glance | 14:15 |
| mclaren | I'd certainly support trying to get it in | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | +1 | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | How about we make them priority and makr v1 deprecated now ... like literally within this meeting? | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | It's been hard and I won't hide I'm supper annoyed by this not going in | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | Let's have another discussion on the ML and see what can be done | 14:16 |
| mfedosin | As I said even if it's a priority for Nova, it's a priority for whole OpenStack | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: I do agree with you | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | like super fully agree | 14:17 |
| mfedosin | *not a priority for Nova | 14:17 |
| jokke_ | ++ | 14:17 |
| mfedosin | we all work for OS | 14:17 |
| mfedosin | and it's better to collaborate to make it better | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | so, let's get that email out but I'd recommend not getting the hopes very high | 14:18 |
| mfedosin | I know, but let's try to do it | 14:18 |
| mclaren | can we qualify the risk to some degree? Is it fairly low risk? | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: what risk? | 14:18 |
| mclaren | I guess nova don't want to risk taking new changes -- so can we convince them it's low risk? | 14:18 |
| mfedosin | at least we can set GLANCE_VER = 1 | 14:19 |
| mclaren | yeah, for example | 14:19 |
| mfedosin | and it will be the old workflow | 14:19 |
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| rosmaita | "For things that are very close to merging, it’s possible it might get an exception for one week after the freeze date, given the patches get enough +2s from the core team to get the code merged. But we expect this list to be zero, if everything goes to plan" | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | It's not just a matter of risks, TBH. | 14:19 |
| nikhil | I doubt if John would block this | 14:19 |
| nikhil | I recommend talking to him first | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | The motivations I've heard are risk, design, timing | 14:19 |
| nikhil | as no one else is blocking it | 14:19 |
| nikhil | I think -2 is merely a follow on his Nova exception policy | 14:20 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: I've been talking to John. The block comes from an agreement with the rest of the team | 14:20 |
| nikhil | ah k | 14:20 |
| flaper87 | The freeze happened 2 weeks ago, he actually gave extra time for this | 14:20 |
| nikhil | oh and the extra week discussed with sean wasn't considered by the rest then? | 14:21 |
| nikhil | anyways, just dumping my thoughts here...prolly we don't need to discuss this | 14:21 |
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| rosmaita | i'd suggest mike and flavio coordinate on what goes out to the ML | 14:21 |
| flaper87 | Anyway, let's wait for mfedosin's email and see what the result of the discussion is | 14:22 |
| nikhil | I am sure the rest of the OS wants v2 to become default in M | 14:22 |
| flaper87 | I don't want us to just waste time pointing fingers on the ML but rather evaluating how this can go in in Mitaka | 14:22 |
| nikhil | real default (whatever that means) | 14:22 |
| flaper87 | The plan was *NEVER* for this to be perfect in mitaka | 14:22 |
| flaper87 | This was agreed upon back in Tokyo (or after tokyo) | 14:22 |
| mfedosin | flaper87: also you have a spec merged | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | do I? | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | oh right | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | I do | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | anyway | 14:23 |
| mfedosin | =P | 14:23 |
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| flaper87 | Let's move on | 14:23 |
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| flaper87 | #topic Cross-project updates | 14:23 |
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| flaper87 | nikhil: ? | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | anything ? | 14:23 |
| nikhil | hey | 14:23 |
| nikhil | yeah, that's me | 14:24 |
| nikhil | there are 2 (semi) updates | 14:24 |
| nikhil | 1. Glance & subsequent discussion on (nested) quotas | 14:24 |
| nikhil | SO, there are about 5 or so projects with quotas implemented already | 14:24 |
| nikhil | only cinder has nested quota work done fairly well | 14:25 |
| nikhil | Most of the feedback I got was go ahead with simple quota first and if you don't have HMT the move from simple -> nested won't be that tricky given we keep stuff configurable | 14:25 |
| nikhil | But I am still evaluating the technical ramifications | 14:25 |
| nikhil | The first step I am taking is work on a cross prj oslo.quotas spec with vilobhm | 14:26 |
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| nikhil | we are hopeful to get some feedback on this; given it's fresh I want to bring that spec up in a next to next week's mtg | 14:26 |
| nikhil | I will update more on this topic then | 14:27 |
| ninag | nikhil: are you working on a corss prj spec for simple or nested quotas? | 14:27 |
| nikhil | mtg == xprj mtg and following glance one | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | that sounds awesome. I guess simple quotas for now it is | 14:27 |
| nikhil | ninag: it's a complete quota spec. I think not all projects have implemented even simple so it will start with that | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | ninag: nikhil did you coordinate with flwang ? | 14:27 |
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| nikhil | ninag: I will share details with you offline | 14:28 |
| nikhil | flaper87: yep | 14:28 |
| ninag | nikhil: sounds good..i have some concerns and ideas | 14:28 |
| nikhil | ninag: I can def imaging | 14:28 |
| nikhil | imagine** | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | k | 14:28 |
| * nikhil == typos with cold fingers | 14:28 | |
| flaper87 | the second update? :D | 14:28 |
| nikhil | 2. Query config | 14:29 |
| nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242852 | 14:29 |
| nikhil | There was some discussion on this | 14:29 |
| nikhil | most to see if this sort of thing is useful and should the x-prjs go with yes or no | 14:29 |
| nikhil | mostly* | 14:29 |
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| nikhil | I can see the use of it in some projects but from glance perspective it seemed rather unnecessary | 14:30 |
| nikhil | it's still under discussion so open for questions here | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | right | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | I agree it's not super useful for us | 14:30 |
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| flaper87 | I haven't read that spec | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | but I will catch up | 14:31 |
| nikhil | oh he abandoned it yday, late refresh oops | 14:31 |
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| nikhil | so yeah, mostly noop from us | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | ok | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | Anything else? Questions from folks? Things that should be raised in the next meeting? | 14:32 |
| nikhil | Next x-prj mtg you mean? | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | yes | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | those were open questions for everyone | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | I guess people are fine with your update :D | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | w00h000 | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | thanks a bunch nikhil | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | moving on | 14:33 |
| nikhil | yw | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | #topic Glance virtual mid-cycle summary (flaper87) | 14:33 |
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| flaper87 | We had a virtual summit last week | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | it was supposed to be recorded | 14:33 |
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| flaper87 | you can blame me | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | :) | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | Apparently I don't know how to click a freaking button | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | (except for those that say: "Here take 1M USD" | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | ) | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | Anywya | 14:34 |
| nikhil | haha | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | anyway, even | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | I think it was good | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | We talked about a bunch of stuff an we spent a significant amount of time talking about image import refactor | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | Here's a small summary (I'll write that email I promissed) | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | (I promise ;) | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255274/ (Move Artifacts to glance-glare [landed]) | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | That landed! It's awesome | 14:35 |
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| mfedosin | for sure | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | We won't be doing anything else on Glare in the mitaka time-frame | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | The client patch has been -2'd until we have a better API | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | and folks will work on the spec | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | The fast track thing is going away | 14:35 |
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| flaper87 | and we'll all review glare's patches like a bunch of sis/bros that love each other | 14:36 |
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| rosmaita | :) | 14:36 |
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| jokke_ | :P | 14:36 |
| mfedosin | ^_^ | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | Love is in the air | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | We also talked about quotas | 14:36 |
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| flaper87 | (para pa para pa pa) | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | There are 2 proposals but nikhil just updated us with the x-prj effort | 14:37 |
| nikhil | it's a semi effort | 14:37 |
| ninag | if I could add something here? | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | for completeness and "logness" here are the links | 14:37 |
| nikhil | :) | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/266667 (Image quota flwang) | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/275674 (Image quota Nina) | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | ninag: absolutely | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | do not ever feel you can't share in this (or any) place in openstack | 14:38 |
| ninag | while i think it is great to have Nikhil work on the cross-project spec...it was tried before at 2 summits..so I think we should look at both in paralell | 14:38 |
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| ninag | working on out own specs while working the cross -project one | 14:38 |
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| ninag | otherwise we will end up with no having project level quota support again for another release | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | ninag: that's a good observation. The way x-prj specs normally work is that ppl end up implementing what's written there in every project | 14:38 |
| jokke_ | I'm still happily opposing that work taking on before we get the v1 deprecated so we can just focus doing it in one place properly | 14:39 |
| nikhil | yeah, so there are many dynamics here | 14:39 |
| nikhil | 1. API changes | 14:39 |
| ninag | I agree we will only do it for v2 APIs..that is a dependency | 14:39 |
| nikhil | 2. Conformity on nested | 14:40 |
| nikhil | 3. Simple to nested upgrade/config complexity (or keeping stuff optional) | 14:40 |
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| nikhil | 4. Timing HMT support with nested (last one) | 14:41 |
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| flaper87 | I think there's some work that can definitely be done in parallel but we gotta be super careful we don't diverge from the x-prj effort | 14:41 |
| nikhil | I have a lot to say on this (like in the mid cycle) but avoiding due to time crunch | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: let's put it in next week's agenda | 14:42 |
| nikhil | k | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | and we can dedicate a good slot to it | 14:42 |
| ninag | I agree: and we have been talking with the other projects (mc_nair who is fixing the CInder issues is on the same team ) | 14:42 |
| ninag | Sounds good. thanks | 14:42 |
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| flaper87 | ok, moving on. In addition to the above, we also spent Friday's session talking about the image import refactor | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | Some things to follow up on: | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271021/ (Image import alternatives) | 14:42 |
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| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/278086 (Image import requirements) | 14:43 |
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| flaper87 | The first is a list of alternatives mclaren proposed | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | the second is a clarification of what the requirements are | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | We agreed to push the coding side of this work to Newton | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | There's simply no time for that in Mitaka | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | BUT | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | we have to reach an agreement by M-3 | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | That's the goal for Mitaka, at least | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | just want to say something about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278086/ ... | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | i know the original spec is a monster, so a lot of people's eyes may have glazed over reading it | 14:44 |
| flaper87 | If there will be a discussion in austin about this, it has to be very specific and related to future works on this area | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | ... but it would be great if everyone here could take a look at this much much much shorter patch and leave comments if you have an opinion | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | I don't want us to spend another 8 months planning this work :) | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: ++ | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | yes, now is the time to object or point out flaws in what we are proposing | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | (actually, december was the time, but here's a second chance!) | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | (but it would be nice if this is the last chance!) | 14:45 |
| mclaren | I said I'd research tempurls a bit (for sigmavirus24) | 14:45 |
| mclaren | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-temp-url-for-glance-uploads | 14:45 |
| mclaren | ^ some notes | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: thanks for taking the time | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | I'll go through those | 14:46 |
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| flaper87 | ok, that's it on this topic | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | (jeeez I'm slow today) | 14:46 |
| mclaren | first problem is tempurl doesn't currently support > 5GB (ie the sub-large-object limit) | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: I think it'd be better to have a topic for this in next week's meeting | 14:46 |
| mclaren | sure | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | thoughts ? | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | awesome | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | #topic M-3 approaching (flaper87) | 14:47 |
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| flaper87 | M-3 is around the corner | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | #link http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html#m-3 | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | like, no joke | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | cycle is almost over | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | and it's been super fun | 14:48 |
| jokke_ | I missed the Fri session, but iiuc the spec that was agreed on is pretty close to the solution we agreed in Tokyo so before reading that PS is that proposing a) us starting the planning from scratch b) refining some details from the merged spec or c) something different? | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | NOW, there are still things that need to be completed | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | there are specs that have been approved that need to be implemented | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | I've set a soft deadline for next week's friday. If patches are not up and green by then, I'll move those specs out of Mitaka | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | The next two weeks should be spent on reviews only (or mostly) | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | Any questions? | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | I've went through all the patches available and -1'd requesting updates | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | I'll do the same next monday | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: (a) not proposing start from scratch, (b) my update patch is to remind us what we agreed on, (c) so that it's clear what to think about in evaluating mclaren 's alternatives patch | 14:50 |
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| flaper87 | I guess there are no questions on this topic | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | #topic Vulnerability needs help | 14:50 |
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| kairat_ | Perhaps this deserves review day | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | kairat_: or review week :P | 14:51 |
| kairat_ | as we have done previously | 14:51 |
| kairat_ | yep | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | ++ | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | So, vulnerability | 14:51 |
| mfedosin | just wanted to say about 'review night' | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | this cycle has been quieter, I guess. BUT, there are some security bugs that need some help and reviews | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | It's not nice to have sec issues opened and it's not nice to not having folks dedicating enough time to it | 14:52 |
| flaper87 | So, I'd like to improve that situation asap because it's never too late to tackle security issues | 14:52 |
| flaper87 | For security reasosn the sec team is not super big | 14:52 |
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| flaper87 | But, I believe we could use 1 more person there | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: thnx | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | and perhaps someone willing to take a more active leadership on that front | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | hemanthm: has done some great reviews | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | but I believe he's swamped right now | 14:53 |
| nikhil | or on vacation | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | no, swamped | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | I talked to him, he's swamped | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | (i was talking to him yesterday) | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | so, if you would like to help with our security team, please contact me | 14:54 |
| flaper87 | I'll be doing some changes in glance's coresec team | 14:54 |
| flaper87 | and we need support | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | who's in coresec now? | 14:54 |
| nikhil | ok, I promise to be more active there. PRolly reduce attn in others. | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | mclaren rosmaita (you?) nikhil hemanthm and I | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | those are the names I remember | 14:55 |
| nikhil | um | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | mclaren is our sec liaison | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | i don't think i am | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | I might be wrong about that list | 14:55 |
| nikhil | I think it's 4 and rosmaita isn't there | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | oh ok | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | sorry about that | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:55 |
| nikhil | +1 to mfedosin if he wants | 14:55 |
| nikhil | we would need one for glare | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | ++ | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | i agree | 14:55 |
| mfedosin | I'll think about it | 14:56 |
| nikhil | :) | 14:56 |
| nikhil | sorry | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: not just think, look at your calendar as well | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | I'm sure you have like a gazillion of other projects you're working on | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | perhaps kairat_ ? | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:56 |
| * flaper87 is enjoying this | 14:56 | |
| flaper87 | hahahahha | 14:56 |
| nikhil | ++ | 14:56 |
| mfedosin | flaper87: it was a polite repulse | 14:56 |
| nikhil | I am changing my email filters, though I just see one bug this cycle | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | ok, ppl, just think about it. Sec is important, your cloud could go down if there's a sec issue #salespitch | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | i would support kairat_ , he pays close attention to details | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | anyway, that's it from me | 14:57 |
| kairat_ | So I may help with that | 14:57 |
| mfedosin | kairat is responsible for security bugs here | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | SOLD! | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | kairat_ it is | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | w000h000 | 14:57 |
| kairat_ | mfedosin means in Mirantis | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | :) | 14:58 |
| kairat_ | Ok | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | kairat_: now in upstream as well | 14:58 |
| mfedosin | kairat_: Congrats! | 14:58 |
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| flaper87 | ok, I'll take the rest offline | 14:58 |
| kairat_ | Ok | 14:58 |
| flaper87 | #topic Open Discussion | 14:58 |
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| flaper87 | 2 mins | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | seriously people, please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278086/, it's a quick read | 14:59 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: ++ | 14:59 |
| mfedosin | Darja made updates for her filter patch | 14:59 |
| flaper87 | ppl do what uncle Brian says | 14:59 |
| flaper87 | >.> | 14:59 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: saw that | 14:59 |
| jokke_ | If someone did not notice yet, my affiliation with HP ended at 3rd of Feb ... this means that my mailing list subscription (to my work e-mail) dropped out as well and I haven't set sufficient spam filter on my private one yet to subscribe there | 15:00 |
| mfedosin | Splease review it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248359/ | 15:00 |
| mfedosin | thanks in advance | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | so if you need something from me, please drop me direct e-mail or ping me here | 15:00 |
| nikhil | jokke_: oh, I didn't notice | 15:00 |
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| jokke_ | here meaning irc ... I have client always online | 15:00 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: thanks for the heads up | 15:00 |
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| nikhil | and time.. | 15:01 |
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| flaper87 | out of time | 15:01 |
| mfedosin | thanks all :) | 15:01 |
| flaper87 | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 11 15:01:27 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-02-11-14.00.html | 15:01 |
| nikhil | thanks | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-02-11-14.00.txt | 15:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-02-11-14.00.log.html | 15:01 |
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| TravT | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 11 15:02:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TravT. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:02 |
| rosmaita | sjmc7: looks like everyone ganged up on you last night and -1'd your spec patch | 15:02 |
| TravT | haha | 15:02 |
| TravT | i had to jump on the band wagon | 15:02 |
| sjmc7 | hey | 15:02 |
| nikhil | o/ | 15:02 |
| TravT | o/ | 15:02 |
| sjmc7 | rosmaita: it was heartbreaking | 15:02 |
| RickA-HP | o/ | 15:03 |
| TravT | okey-dokey. | 15:03 |
| TravT | i didn't put together a big agenda today. | 15:03 |
| sjmc7 | i did have something which i now can’t remember. perhaps my mind will be jogged | 15:04 |
| TravT | because i thought we should look over the current release and talk some priorities | 15:04 |
| TravT | as usual, it is here though: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:04 |
| TravT | so you can add or bring it up during the meeting | 15:05 |
| TravT | General updates is that we are closing in on the end of mitaka 3 which you all already knew | 15:05 |
| TravT | I did just remember one item for discussion and added to agenda | 15:06 |
| TravT | #topic searchlight panel | 15:06 |
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| TravT | Interestingly enough, I've been contacted twice in the last two weeks from people wanting to install searchlight and the horizon panel. | 15:07 |
| TravT | last one appeared to be somebody wanting it for liberty | 15:07 |
| TravT | which left us in a not great spot, because it obviously wasn't merged to master | 15:08 |
| TravT | and it wasn't its own repo | 15:08 |
| nikhil | oops | 15:08 |
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| TravT | it exists as a patch on horizon. | 15:08 |
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| TravT | so, i'm still very much trying to get it in shape for horizon mitaka, but the reality is that its a longshot to land on horizon master for mitaka. | 15:09 |
| TravT | i still think it may be best to be on horizon master, but if needed we should do a searchlight-dashboard / searchlight-ui repo | 15:09 |
| TravT | so we have something we can tag with mitaka and be deployable. | 15:10 |
| TravT | my question is this: should i proactively put up a patch for a searchlight-dashboard repo now? | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | TravT: given horizon’s been moving stuff out rather than in, i think that’d be a good idea for now | 15:11 |
| sjmc7 | until we have a good case for making it a core piece | 15:11 |
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| TravT | ultimately i think we have a good case for making it core and many horizon cores agree. | 15:11 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, i agree | 15:11 |
| sjmc7 | but i’ve heard from many they want to see it have broader use before that happens | 15:12 |
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| TravT | i think that if we miss horizon master in mitaka, that it'll be tough to get a repo created in time for mitaka tagging | 15:12 |
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| TravT | but i still have to keep it as a patch on horizon master until its parent patch lands on master. | 15:13 |
| sjmc7 | having separate repos for horizon is a well-established pattern, so i don’t see a problem | 15:13 |
| sjmc7 | ultimately it’d be much nicer to be in core | 15:13 |
| TravT | okay, so i'm going to request a new repo so we at least have it | 15:13 |
| TravT | and we might swap it over from being a patch on master to the repo right at the end of mitaka. | 15:14 |
| TravT | okay? rosmaita nikhil RickA-HP? | 15:14 |
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| RickA-HP | TravT: I agree with creating the new repo now. | 15:15 |
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| sjmc7 | good with me. and im sure with david :) | 15:15 |
| RickA-HP | It will put us on the path to success if we don't make Horizon core. | 15:15 |
| TravT | yeah, david and i had a long conversation about it. | 15:15 |
| TravT | he likes it for horizon core, but thought a separate repo as backup / interim plan makes sense | 15:16 |
| rosmaita | i don't have an opinion on this, don't know much about horizon politics | 15:16 |
| rosmaita | but the discussion so far makes sense to me | 15:16 |
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| TravT | horizon team has generally been supportive, but the priority backlog for horizon is pretty big with several things higher on the list | 15:17 |
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| TravT | with a dashboard repo, it has become standard to make the service core team and the horizon core team cores on the repo. | 15:18 |
| TravT | in some cases, additional people are added as cores. | 15:18 |
| TravT | for example, magnum did that | 15:18 |
| TravT | so initially, i'd make searchlight core and horizon core team have rights. | 15:19 |
| nikhil | == rosmaita | 15:19 |
| TravT | okay, i'll work on getting that going over the next several days | 15:20 |
| TravT | #agreed Create a searchlight-dashboard repo as a backup plan to searchlight landing on mitaka horizon master | 15:20 |
| TravT | i think that's how it works... i don't know | 15:20 |
| TravT | #topic Newton summit session | 15:20 |
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| TravT | sjmc7 and I submitted a project update session to the summit. | 15:21 |
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| * TravT needs to find a link | 15:21 | |
| TravT | sjmc7 do you have it? | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | looking | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | talki amongst yourselves | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/vote-for-speakers/presentation/7561 | 15:22 |
| TravT | ok, anyway, if you are so inclined, voting for it might help it | 15:23 |
| sjmc7 | and hopefully we won’t have to bellow over the marketplace this time | 15:23 |
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| TravT | #topic blueprints - end of mitaka priorities | 15:24 |
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| TravT | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight | 15:24 |
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| TravT | sjmc7, do we have anything left on index-level-role-separation | 15:25 |
| sjmc7 | there’s a bug against the designate plugins around it with a patch up, but the core code is done | 15:25 |
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| TravT | ok, then we'll leave it not marked as complete | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | aww :( | 15:26 |
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| TravT | so close! | 15:26 |
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| sjmc7 | the deletion-journal stuff i think will be much simpler after digging up the barely documented feature elasticsearch has (and again, i think rosmaita tried to bring this up and i didn’t pay enough attention, so apologies) | 15:27 |
| TravT | +1 to rosmaita | 15:28 |
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| TravT | sjmc7: i think you can mark es-deletion-journal as something besides unknown delivery now, right? | 15:28 |
| sjmc7 | yes | 15:28 |
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| sjmc7 | i can’t edit it :( | 15:29 |
| sjmc7 | ah, there it is | 15:29 |
| TravT | RickA-HP: i just marked zero downtime indexing as approved (since spec went through) | 15:29 |
| TravT | can you change delivery to appropriate status? | 15:29 |
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| RickA-HP | TravT: Sure. As an update, the code is written. | 15:30 |
| sjmc7 | per-resource-type-control i think will not be tremendously difficult now the role separation is in | 15:30 |
| sjmc7 | i’m saving it for a rainy afternoon | 15:30 |
| RickA-HP | I'm in the middle of testing and I still need to write more unit tests. | 15:30 |
| TravT | yes, i think we will need it in mitaka | 15:30 |
| TravT | when i discussed searchlight in the horizon irc meeting yesterday, "permissions" was one of the questions raised | 15:30 |
| sjmc7 | ok. i’ll maybe talk to you about specifics | 15:31 |
| TravT | richard asked if we'd addressed the permissions issues we talked about in tokyo. | 15:31 |
| sjmc7 | i don’t want to get too deep into a complicated hole | 15:31 |
| TravT | sure, my brain isn't yet firing on all cylinders this morning | 15:31 |
| TravT | so later in the day would be better | 15:31 |
| TravT | ;) | 15:31 |
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| TravT | steve, i think this bp is actually done. it appears to overlap with role base documents spec https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/nova-server-config-admin-properties | 15:32 |
| sjmc7 | woo-hoo! | 15:32 |
| TravT | i can mark it superseded if you agree | 15:32 |
| sjmc7 | yes | 15:32 |
| sjmc7 | freebie blueprint! | 15:33 |
| TravT | woot! | 15:33 |
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| TravT | ok, so other than pre resource type policy control, i contend that we really need cinder and neutron plugins for mitaka. | 15:34 |
| TravT | we need to fill out the core openstack services. | 15:34 |
| sjmc7 | i looked at cinder yesterday | 15:34 |
| sjmc7 | and i think the existing notifications are sufficient for something without hitting the API all the time | 15:34 |
| sjmc7 | neutron i’m waiting for the parent/child patch to land | 15:35 |
| TravT | okay, i saw lakshmiS added comments on that one last night | 15:35 |
| sjmc7 | yep. the data model is more complicated for neutron | 15:35 |
| TravT | yeah, i've been trying to psych myself up to learn it enough to provide some review on it | 15:36 |
| sjmc7 | but i think i can put up a first stab for discussion | 15:36 |
| TravT | if we get a cinder plugin patch up | 15:36 |
| TravT | maybe duncan could still get the notification side up | 15:37 |
| TravT | on cinder | 15:37 |
| sjmc7 | yep. i’m intending to work on both today or tomorrow | 15:37 |
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| sjmc7 | the versioning patch is probably the most crucial one now | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | it has the potential to introduce unforseen bugs | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | so it’d be good to get as much testing time as possible | 15:38 |
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| TravT | well, looks like just waiting for another patch set from lei | 15:39 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255751/ | 15:39 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, it’s gone back and forth a bit. timezones make it more difficult | 15:39 |
| TravT | nikhil, have you had any time to look at zuul functional tests? | 15:40 |
| TravT | maybe he stepped away | 15:42 |
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| TravT | i still would like to see swift get closer to reality, but that's probably something to look to get worked out for the summit... maybe we should have put up a session on searching swift... | 15:43 |
| * TravT :( just realized we probably did miss the boat on that one... | 15:44 | |
| sjmc7 | maybe the IBM guys will be doing it again :) | 15:44 |
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| TravT | we really should have done that! | 15:44 |
| TravT | we'll have to propose it as a design session with swift perhaps | 15:44 |
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| TravT | walk in with working code. | 15:45 |
| TravT | anyway, i don't have any other big topics for the week | 15:45 |
| TravT | #topic open discussion | 15:45 |
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| sjmc7 | i remembered something i had | 15:45 |
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| sjmc7 | i am still worried about hitting the nova API. i wondered about not listening to state change notificaitons, or at least making it optional | 15:46 |
| sjmc7 | power events spawn at least 4 notifications | 15:46 |
| sjmc7 | the transitionary ones don’t seem that crucial for us to pick up | 15:47 |
| RickA-HP | sjmc7: Are we able to filter out notifications? | 15:47 |
| TravT | oh, actually, we talked about putting in some smarter logic there as well... | 15:47 |
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| sjmc7 | RickA-HP: yeah, we can choose which ones | 15:47 |
| sjmc7 | i’m thinking a config option | 15:47 |
| TravT | maybe we should only react to final state | 15:47 |
| sjmc7 | i have a strong concern that on a big install, hammering the API on state change is gonna be bad news | 15:47 |
| TravT | yes - config option would be good. | 15:48 |
| sjmc7 | if we can get more info into the notifications next cycle we can do better | 15:48 |
| sjmc7 | ok. i’ll put up a BP. i can’t remember the other thing | 15:48 |
| TravT | i haven't gone back to see if nova actually implemented any of that notification discussion that i attended at the summit | 15:49 |
| sjmc7 | i haven’t looked for a while. i’ll take another look | 15:49 |
| TravT | if they did, then they were going to put full data into notification, but it would just be the raw data | 15:49 |
| TravT | not looking like the API output | 15:49 |
| TravT | but we could transform it | 15:49 |
| sjmc7 | yep | 15:50 |
| sjmc7 | i’l ltake a look. something for the summit, definitely | 15:50 |
| TravT | I had asked about them giving a transform library and they were basically like "oh man, no way, not how tangled up the code is" | 15:50 |
| sjmc7 | :D | 15:50 |
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| TravT | if they did that, it would be pretty awesome... | 15:51 |
| TravT | okay, anything else for today? | 15:51 |
| TravT | i think we'll have yingjun back next week. | 15:51 |
| sjmc7 | nope. reviews on the versioning patch | 15:51 |
| TravT | he was out this week on holiday | 15:51 |
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| TravT | all right, thanks! | 15:52 |
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| TravT | #endmeeting | 15:52 |
| rosmaita | yay! free 7 minutes! | 15:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 11 15:52:51 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-02-11-15.02.html | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-02-11-15.02.txt | 15:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-02-11-15.02.log.html | 15:52 |
| sjmc7 | haha :) | 15:53 |
| TravT | merry late Christmas rosmaita | 15:53 |
| TravT | :) | 15:53 |
| rosmaita | ty! | 15:53 |
| rosmaita | and happy new year! | 15:53 |
| TravT | woot! | 15:53 |
| v1k0d3n | hey all | 15:53 |
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| automagically | o/ | 15:55 |
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| palendae | o/ | 15:58 |
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| palendae | Oh, no rollcall yet | 15:59 |
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| cloudnull | #startmeeting OpenStack Ansible Meeting | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 11 16:02:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cloudnull. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack Ansible Meeting)" | 16:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible_meeting' | 16:02 |
| cloudnull | #topic rollcall | 16:02 |
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| cloudnull | o/ | 16:02 |
| odyssey4me | o/ here, but will be leaving shortly - cloudnull is chair | 16:02 |
| cloudnull | hows it going all ? | 16:02 |
| cloudnull | so lets get started | 16:03 |
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| michaelgugino | here | 16:03 |
| cloudnull | looks like most of the action items from last week we're from odyssey4me | 16:03 |
| cloudnull | #link #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-02-04-16.04.html | 16:03 |
| cloudnull | and I believe theyve all been accomplished | 16:04 |
| palendae | o/ | 16:04 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me ? | 16:04 |
| v1k0d3n | o/ | 16:04 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull yep :) | 16:04 |
| cloudnull | centos gating is online and I've seen the ML discussion RE: the midcycle | 16:04 |
| cloudnull | so i think we're good there. | 16:04 |
| cloudnull | #topic Topics for Discussion | 16:05 |
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| michaelgugino | I'm in another meeting, so ping me for anything please. | 16:06 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me -- RE: Mid-Cycle Meetup -- hows that going ? | 16:06 |
| cloudnull | I assume all is well | 16:06 |
| cloudnull | thanks michaelgugino will do | 16:06 |
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| odyssey4me | can we get votes in on sessions for https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-mitaka-midcycle so that we can prioritise in case there isn't enough time | 16:06 |
| v1k0d3n | same here, have another scrum at 11, can you ping during open discussion please? | 16:06 |
| odyssey4me | if anyone has other proposed talks they'd like to add, please add them | 16:06 |
| cloudnull | will do v1k0d3n | 16:06 |
| cloudnull | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-mitaka-midcycle | 16:07 |
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| admin0 | hello all :) | 16:08 |
| cloudnull | o/ | 16:08 |
| cloudnull | #topic Support for multiple availability zones | 16:08 |
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| cloudnull | admin0 This was your item | 16:08 |
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| cloudnull | what would you like to discuss ? | 16:08 |
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| admin0 | well, regarding AZ, i am thinking if there is/will/can be easier way to bind resources together rather then using host specific overrides which is a bit tedious and time consuming | 16:09 |
| admin0 | especially if you got like 60 nodes in 3 az’s each | 16:09 |
| cloudnull | so is this specifically a nova / cinder AZ ? | 16:09 |
| admin0 | yep | 16:09 |
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| cloudnull | how would you like to see that done in a perfect world ? | 16:10 |
| admin0 | was what I recommended a bad way or a tedious way ? | 16:10 |
| * cloudnull is looking for the LP issue | 16:10 | |
| admin0 | i would like to group resources in an AZ .. and be able to deifine AZ based ips and resources | 16:11 |
| admin0 | so that just 1 deployment can take care of multiple AZs, since they share the same db/api | 16:11 |
| odyssey4me | is there a reason why this couldn't just be a post install configuration done by hand? | 16:11 |
| odyssey4me | as far as I recall you can set hosts into different AZ's through the CLI | 16:11 |
| admin0 | well the reason to use ansible and automation is to try to automate as much as possible right . so that was a thought | 16:12 |
| admin0 | with 5 people or many people in the team, having this controlled using ansible prevents mistakes | 16:12 |
| evrardjp | odyssey4me: and web interface | 16:12 |
| admin0 | because the ansible governs what goes where and that can be reviewed before deployment, rather than depending on who is doing what post-install on cli | 16:13 |
| spotz | o/ late | 16:13 |
| cloudnull | o/ spotz | 16:13 |
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| cloudnull | I can see the merits of determining the az for a nova/cinder node. | 16:14 |
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| odyssey4me | As long as whatever is implemented is reasonably maintainable, I'm ok with it. I'm wary of adding a bunch of conditional code - we already have too much of it and it makes the logic hard to follow. | 16:14 |
| cloudnull | however I can also see that automation living outside of the main deployment | 16:14 |
| cloudnull | so idk | 16:14 |
| odyssey4me | We need to aim for more simplicity in the deployment. | 16:14 |
| cloudnull | admin0: I recently had to deal with AZs for a 500 node deployment via the CLI and its a bit of a pain. | 16:15 |
| cloudnull | so im on the fence | 16:15 |
| odyssey4me | So yeah, I'm not against it - I'd just like to see a proposed review and perhaps discussion is better suited in such a review. | 16:15 |
| cloudnull | admin0: in your LP issue you noted that assigning an AZ based on CIDR group is that right | 16:15 |
| evrardjp | isn't openstack-ansible already setting an AZ for cinder nodes? | 16:16 |
| * cloudnull is failing at his LP searching | 16:16 | |
| odyssey4me | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1539803 | 16:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1539803 in openstack-ansible "enable support for availability zones for compute and services" [Undecided,Invalid] | 16:16 |
| cloudnull | ^ that one | 16:16 |
| cloudnull | thatnks odyssey4me | 16:16 |
| odyssey4me | the bug description has a proposed solution, but that doesn't really give me a sense of the impact to the code | 16:16 |
| * odyssey4me is a little slow to comprehend these things today :) | 16:17 | |
| admin0 | well, that is what we use now and find it easy .. because the internal cdir’s are different on both zones . only the management cdr being accessible from the deploy server | 16:17 |
| logan- | couldn't you do the AZ stuff using group vars since all of the settings are there | 16:17 |
| odyssey4me | that seems like a sensible way to do it | 16:17 |
| admin0 | i have just started to play with it .. is there an example already of this ? | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | why wouldn't you use it the same way as it's done on cinder? | 16:18 |
| * admin0 feels n00bish | 16:18 | |
| evrardjp | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/master/playbooks/roles/os_cinder/templates/cinder.conf.j2#L77 | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | nova_availability_zone should be defined in the openstack_user_config if it's a group override | 16:18 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me: i think the point is that you'd have to add that to every host which is time consuming especially as the deployment grows | 16:18 |
| cloudnull | 500 nodes == 500 entries of the same config | 16:19 |
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| odyssey4me | cloudnull I think you meant to inform evrardjp of that :) | 16:19 |
| logan- | yeah the openstack_user_config doesn't have a great way to set group vars afaik, you have to set tons of container vars | 16:19 |
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| admin0 | we grow by 6 compute nodes per az and 2 cinder nodes per az and this i see outside of the deployment and something if the deployment can handle | 16:19 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me: yes sorry evrardjp ** | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | perhaps a better long term solution here is to enable better usage of group_vars in the dynamic inventory? | 16:20 |
| admin0 | each az have their own api, storage, nova clusters . only swift is on all zones | 16:20 |
| logan- | for something like this you would almost be better off segmenting compute_hosts and storage_hosts into some subgroups and putting some files in inventory/group_vars | 16:20 |
| logan- | yeah group vars in dynamic inventory would be so helpful | 16:20 |
| admin0 | my purposal was based on i could not find a lot of ways to do it .. if there are examples , i can try again and come back if really stuck | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | maybe something like dynamic groups based on arbitrary criteria (eg cidr) | 16:20 |
| palendae | Or a group membership stanza | 16:21 |
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| evrardjp | there we go, same discussion again :) | 16:21 |
| palendae | Sorry, am I being cyclical? trying to look at multiple things | 16:21 |
| admin0 | if this discussion has come up again and again, there must be a reason right :D | 16:22 |
| cloudnull | i think logan- is on to soomething there. if it were subgroups, or if we documented how to do that better, then you could define group_vars in a simpler way | 16:22 |
| odyssey4me | maybe we need to have a proper discussion about the next evolution of the dynamic inventory at the mid cycle? | 16:22 |
| palendae | ^ yes | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | +1 | 16:22 |
| palendae | I know neillc was looking at implementing it as a library | 16:22 |
| logan- | i do it out of necessity for some things (modifying inventory directly and adding some subgroups of hosts in static files to build on top fo dynamic inventory) | 16:22 |
| logan- | but i hate doing it | 16:22 |
| logan- | if i could do it via dynamic inventory that would be great | 16:22 |
| odyssey4me | or yes - another way to handle this would be user-developed env.d changes for altered group specs | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | tagging hosts to groups and having a way to define variables for these tags is IMO important | 16:22 |
| palendae | With a first pass of just making it a library, with current functionality | 16:22 |
| palendae | odyssey4me: Yeah, I think we talked about an evolution of env.d | 16:23 |
| palendae | These thigns aren't necessarily exclusive, either | 16:23 |
| odyssey4me | ok, personally I don't think we're going to solve this in this meeting and we should dedicate a slot to it in the mid cycle | 16:23 |
| palendae | Nope | 16:23 |
| palendae | Yep | 16:23 |
| odyssey4me | can someone propose and facilitate it? | 16:23 |
| admin0 | what needs to be done for that ? | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | be sure to add an etherpad link so that discussion can already begin ahead of time | 16:24 |
| jmccrory | not sure how far along this is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/dynamic-inventory-lib, but maybe we could include this discussion as part of that | 16:24 |
| palendae | jmccrory: neillc is looking at it, but I know he was out for a few weeks | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | we need to examine new requirements and work out a good way to cater for those | 16:24 |
| palendae | His implementation is starting as just moving the current code into a library | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, I think the lib effort should be seperate from that | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | this should just be to figure out how to cater better for scale | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | these requirements can then be added to Neil's work - and we can work out a work breakdown after that | 16:25 |
| palendae | Makes sense to me | 16:25 |
| admin0 | +1 | 16:26 |
| admin0 | so when will this be discussed again ? | 16:26 |
| palendae | Sounds like midcycle | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | but before then, in an etherpad | 16:27 |
| admin0 | ok | 16:27 |
| admin0 | what do I need to do :D ? | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | who's going to facilitate the session? I'm happy to assist with that | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | admin0 see the links in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 16:27 |
| admin0 | got it | 16:28 |
| odyssey4me | get yourself a remote ticket, if you're not able to pysically attend | 16:28 |
| odyssey4me | and add a proposed work session to the work session list | 16:28 |
| odyssey4me | if you're in the US, we'll try and time the work session for the UK afternoon | 16:28 |
| admin0 | i am in the Netherlands | 16:29 |
| admin0 | so :( | 16:29 |
| cloudnull | we'll be in the UK for the midcycle | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | alright, then we can do it almost any time in the day - but I think many of the US folk would like to contribute to the discussion | 16:29 |
| cloudnull | :) | 16:29 |
| cloudnull | just a hop skip and a jump | 16:29 |
| palendae | I'm not sure I can facilitate, but I would like to participate in that discussion | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | so admin0 you can easily attend remotely, and facilitate remotely | 16:30 |
| admin0 | i will try :) | 16:30 |
| evrardjp | I'll also take part in this discussion :p | 16:30 |
| cloudnull | nice | 16:30 |
| cloudnull | so lets move on to the next topic | 16:31 |
| cloudnull | #topic Blueprint work | 16:31 |
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| cloudnull | michaelgugino -- hows Multi-OS Support going ? | 16:31 |
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| michaelgugino | we talked a little about that yesterday | 16:31 |
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| michaelgugino | I wanted to talk about a few blockers | 16:32 |
| cloudnull | sure thing | 16:32 |
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| michaelgugino | 1) containers. the bulk of the work needs to be done to services that run in containers. We need to update our container strategy | 16:32 |
| michaelgugino | for starters, we should probably make it so host distro = container distro | 16:33 |
| cloudnull | ++ | 16:33 |
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| palendae | michaelgugino: Agreed. | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | michaelgugino yep, we agreed that in the principles of the work | 16:33 |
| prometheanfire | ya, that was talked about when this first came up | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | while it may be possible for a deployer to configure it differently, we will not test other options | 16:33 |
| michaelgugino | so, there is a lot of refactoring that needs to go into that. I think that is where we need to start, and where the bulk of the effort actually lies. | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | see 'basic principles' in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-multi-os-support :) | 16:34 |
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| michaelgugino | next up, we need to figure out if we're going to support a new version of galera/percona | 16:34 |
| odyssey4me | yes we can, for master - but not liberty | 16:35 |
| mattt | why new version? | 16:35 |
| michaelgugino | because newer distros don't support those older packages | 16:35 |
| palendae | michaelgugino: new as in 10.x? | 16:36 |
| palendae | 10.1 iirc | 16:36 |
| cloudnull | michaelgugino: is this related to the xtrabackup work ? | 16:36 |
| michaelgugino | right, specifically the xtrabackup package is hard-coded to a specific version | 16:36 |
| michaelgugino | that version number is not available for Wily in upstream packaging. | 16:36 |
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| odyssey4me | before I run off - at the top of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-multi-os-support is a list of the independent repositories for the apt install / var split out... can we get some volunteers to provide patches for each repo based on the pattern set out in https://review.openstack.org/274290 ? | 16:37 |
| michaelgugino | installing the current package via dpkg -i as we currently do fails. | 16:37 |
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| mattt | odyssey4me: i'd like to grab one for sure | 16:38 |
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| odyssey4me | please add your name, and then add your review link next to the repo | 16:38 |
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| odyssey4me | first your name so that we don't duplicate work | 16:38 |
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| cloudnull | michaelgugino: I wonder if we can we make that a tunable that can otherwise be turned off ? | 16:39 |
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| cloudnull | for the xtrabackup package | 16:39 |
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| michaelgugino | I think we need to at very least use make the package version portable | 16:40 |
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| cloudnull | agreeded. | 16:42 |
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| cloudnull | maybe that can be conditional includes similar to what odyssey4me was proposing with the package install refactor | 16:42 |
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| michaelgugino | I think that is a good approach, and what I was going to do. | 16:42 |
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| cloudnull | then we can default to something like a a portable package and become more restrictive based on the include | 16:43 |
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| michaelgugino | right, but for galera specifically, we should have a game plan going forward | 16:44 |
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| cloudnull | I that was how you were invisioning the approach, I'm +1 | 16:44 |
| michaelgugino | "we support the stable release for the respective distro from upstream" Something like that. | 16:44 |
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| prometheanfire | what happens with rolling distros? | 16:45 |
| cloudnull | or we can always say that the we only support the LTS for now? | 16:45 |
| evrardjp | prometheanfire will be sad | 16:45 |
| odyssey4me | I think that the distro-specific vars can cater for a uniform approach, and where needed there can be distro-specific tasks too. | 16:45 |
| odyssey4me | ie if one distro requires the addition of a repo, but the other doesn't - then that is applied in the package-mgr specific task set | 16:46 |
| prometheanfire | evrardjp: we can support package for extended periods, and it's honestly not many | 16:46 |
| evrardjp | what about only supporting distro that are tested in the gates? | 16:46 |
| prometheanfire | evrardjp: I do agree with that | 16:47 |
| evrardjp | sorry if it's too specific, but it's the most simple | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | but anywya - the primary targets right now are Ubuntu & CentOS - we can iterate the approach once those are done | 16:47 |
| prometheanfire | yarp | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | I'd rather that we didn't over-engineer things | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | simpler is better | 16:47 |
| michaelgugino | Once we get Ubuntu and CentOS supported, that will cover most users. | 16:48 |
| cloudnull | ++ | 16:49 |
| michaelgugino | Debian should be easy to add after we get systemd working. | 16:49 |
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| michaelgugino | But, the key question is, when do we stop supporting 14.04? | 16:49 |
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| michaelgugino | I figured we'd have to go with the guidance from Openstack.org | 16:49 |
| evrardjp | 16.04 will be systemd too, right? | 16:49 |
| michaelgugino | yes | 16:49 |
| prometheanfire | systemd will help make cross distro functionality easier, hopefully most distros will support the networkd config as well | 16:50 |
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| michaelgugino | Once 16.04 launches, Debian, CentOS, and Ubuntu LTS will all be on systemd. | 16:50 |
| prometheanfire | gentoo will too | 16:50 |
| palendae | michaelgugino: I personally envisioned the first version to support 16.04 would support both 14/16, then the one after, 16.04 only | 16:50 |
| prometheanfire | well, already are | 16:50 |
| cloudnull | I think the systemd changes are the bulk of what will be needed to be mluti-distro compatible | 16:50 |
| odyssey4me | yep, but production environments will have a mix of 14.04 and 16.04, so for a cycle or two we'll need to carry support for both | 16:51 |
| palendae | What odyssey4me said | 16:51 |
| evrardjp | +1 | 16:51 |
| palendae | Upgrades that cycle are going to be...interesting | 16:51 |
| prometheanfire | ya, in the mean time extra fun for all | 16:51 |
| mattt | haha yep | 16:51 |
| michaelgugino | I think we should support 14.04 until 17.04 is released. | 16:51 |
| prometheanfire | 17.04 an lts? | 16:51 |
| prometheanfire | thought next next one would be 18 | 16:51 |
| mattt | i still think we need a strong criteria for distros other than ubuntu/centos | 16:51 |
| palendae | prometheanfire: It is | 16:52 |
| michaelgugino | no, but it's a solid year from launch of 16.04 which will give people 6 months to move, 6 months to bake | 16:52 |
| evrardjp | until official deprecation of ubuntu? so maintain until something before 19.04? ;) | 16:52 |
| prometheanfire | mattt: I think being able to gate is good | 16:52 |
| mattt | prometheanfire: wrong. | 16:52 |
| prometheanfire | oh, this is nice | 16:52 |
| mattt | :) | 16:52 |
| palendae | michaelgugino: I think a lot of places stay on LTS | 16:52 |
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| odyssey4me | I've added a note in the etherpad regarding the success criteria for the package install and var split. | 16:52 |
| cloudnull | ok so we're almost out of time and I'd like to open it up for other general discussions. | 16:53 |
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| cloudnull | #topic Open discussion | 16:53 |
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| odyssey4me | michaelgugino I think that is a good suggestion for input to one of the mid cycle sessions. :) | 16:53 |
| cloudnull | which i know v1k0d3n wanted to be pinged about | 16:53 |
| odyssey4me | we can discuss in more detail there. | 16:53 |
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| v1k0d3n | hello o/ | 16:53 |
| cloudnull | so feel free to keep discussing but i wanted to let in more | 16:54 |
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| michaelgugino | I won't be able to make midcyle, and I'll be traveling next week. But, I'll be at the summit. | 16:54 |
| cloudnull | o/ v1k0d3n | 16:54 |
| v1k0d3n | is it ok to bring up the tower deployment and see if anyone is interested? | 16:54 |
| cloudnull | michaelgugino: no worries, we can carry the convo on within the channel as you find time. I'd imagine the summit will be a good opportunity to cover a lot. | 16:55 |
| cloudnull | sure | 16:55 |
| odyssey4me | michaelgugino we'll not necessarily finalise everything at the mid cycle - the intent is to start the conversation, which will then move into a proposed review | 16:55 |
| evrardjp | quick question about this: does someone know if tower will be open sourced at some point ? | 16:55 |
| cloudnull | v1k0d3n: sure thing | 16:55 |
| odyssey4me | we can then revisit everything at the summit | 16:55 |
| evrardjp | this would help with the dynamic inventory thingy | 16:55 |
| cloudnull | evrardjp idk | 16:55 |
| cloudnull | i know the folks at ansible have teased that in the past | 16:56 |
| cloudnull | but ive heard nothing recently | 16:56 |
| v1k0d3n | ok, so tyler cross from ansible and i have been discussing some ways to simplify the deployment and management of the openstack-ansible deployment (or at least give another option for management)... | 16:56 |
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| v1k0d3n | i'm new to this (different background), but we came up with this: https://github.com/v1k0d3n/tower-openstack | 16:56 |
| cloudnull | v1k0d3n: tower would be sweet! if it can do what we need it to | 16:56 |
| v1k0d3n | i want to get suggestions for workflow, but there are two main workflows that i can think of that would be useful.... | 16:56 |
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| v1k0d3n | management of the first openstack deployment into bareOS | 16:57 |
| v1k0d3n | the second would be OSaaS within OS for development purposes... | 16:57 |
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| v1k0d3n | and the OSaaS or bareOS deployment would use variables (in a survey provided to the end user) that could collect those variables used for the deployment (of each). | 16:58 |
| v1k0d3n | does anyone like this idea? | 16:58 |
| cloudnull | I'd be very interested in tower working for bareOS deployments | 16:58 |
| v1k0d3n | for each deployment...bareOS or OSaaS, multi-node and AIO would be options. | 16:58 |
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| evrardjp | yeah it's cool | 16:58 |
| v1k0d3n | i want to prioritize the work effort, and see if folks would be interesting in contributing by pull requests, etc. | 16:59 |
| cloudnull | ++ | 16:59 |
| cloudnull | ok we're out of time. | 16:59 |
| cloudnull | we can carry on in the channel | 16:59 |
| evrardjp | +1 v1k0d3n | 16:59 |
| cloudnull | thanks everyone | 16:59 |
| evrardjp | thanks | 17:00 |
| cloudnull | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| v1k0d3n | thanks guys | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 11 17:00:05 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| admin0 | thanks all | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2016/openstack_ansible_meeting.2016-02-11-16.02.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2016/openstack_ansible_meeting.2016-02-11-16.02.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2016/openstack_ansible_meeting.2016-02-11-16.02.log.html | 17:00 |
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| cathy_ | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 11 17:02:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cathy_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:02 |
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| cathy_ | hi everyone | 17:02 |
| prithiv | hi | 17:02 |
| LouisF | hi | 17:02 |
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| johnsom | o/ | 17:02 |
| cathy_ | sorry I am a little late | 17:02 |
| cathy_ | I see prithiv LouisF johnsom. Anyone else? | 17:03 |
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| LouisF | i don't see vikram | 17:04 |
| cathy_ | any topic you have in mind for today's discussion? | 17:04 |
| sridhar_ram | cathy_: I'm here as well, I've some question on ODL support and timeline | 17:05 |
| cathy_ | sridhar_ram: hi | 17:05 |
| johnsom | cathy_ You asked last week about OVN/dragonflow. I asked around our group and I found that there is more interest here in OVN at the moment. | 17:05 |
| cathy_ | johnsom: thanks for the info! | 17:05 |
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| cathy_ | Yes, I think we should consider integration of newtroking-sfc with OVN in our second phase | 17:06 |
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| cathy_ | Some of us have started to investigate what we need to do for integration with OVN. | 17:07 |
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| LouisF | johnsom: has there been any work to extend ovn to support sfc? | 17:07 |
| johnsom | LouisF Sorry, I don't know. Personally I have not explored this space much. | 17:07 |
| LouisF | johnsom: thx | 17:08 |
| cathy_ | sridhar_ram: please go ahead with your questions | 17:09 |
| sridhar_ram | cathy_: sure.. | 17:09 |
| sridhar_ram | cathy_: regarding neutron-sfc's ODL support.. I'd like to know who owns this piece in the neutron, is anyone active looking into it ? | 17:09 |
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| cathy_ | sridhar_ram: Integration of SDN controllers with networking-sfc is also something we will consider in our second phase. OVN is one of the controller, ODL too. | 17:10 |
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| sridhar_ram | cathy_: how does your timeline looks ? second phase == mid-mitaka / newton ? | 17:11 |
| cathy_ | pcarver originally proposed this work item. | 17:11 |
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| sridhar_ram | the context for this question, as you know, is possible integration of Tacker with neutron-sfc and still bring in ODL support | 17:12 |
| cathy_ | I am afraid that we will not be able to get that done in mitaka timeline. second phase means after mitaka release. | 17:12 |
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| cathy_ | Sure, that is possible | 17:12 |
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| cathy_ | , just the timeline might be after mitaka release cycle. | 17:13 |
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| sridhar_ram | cathy_: okay.. I'm trying to explore an option where Tacker can avoid going directly to ODL instead flow thru' neutron-sfc | 17:14 |
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| sridhar_ram | there is tremendous interest in OPNFV / ODL community to expose their SFC features to VNF Manager like Tacker | 17:14 |
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| sridhar_ram | we need to enable them.. sooner the better | 17:14 |
| cathy_ | sridhar_ram: I think that is the right way to go since networking-sfc will integrate with different SDN Controllers. ONOS Controller integration with networking-sfc is already completed. | 17:15 |
| cathy_ | ODL controller can be done in a similar way | 17:15 |
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| sridhar_ram | cathy_: ONOS has SFC support ? | 17:15 |
| cathy_ | sridhar_ram: yes | 17:15 |
| sridhar_ram | cathy_: who did that ? any idea about the effort involved ? | 17:16 |
| cathy_ | There is an ONOS driver plug into networking-sfc's southbound common driver interface | 17:16 |
| cathy_ | sridhar_ram: vikram and mohan etc. did it. | 17:16 |
| sridhar_ram | that's quite promising ... | 17:17 |
| cathy_ | I can check with vikram about the effort and get back to you later | 17:17 |
| LouisF | sridhar_ram: https://github.com/openstack/networking-onos | 17:17 |
| cathy_ | LouisF: thanks for posting the link | 17:17 |
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| sridhar_ram | LouisF: thanks. will look into that.. qq, is that specific SFC or a ONOS mech driver ? | 17:18 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: are you there? | 17:18 |
| LouisF | sridhar_ram: that is networking-sfc to onos driver | 17:19 |
| mohankumar | srithar_ram : https://github.com/openstack/networking-onos/tree/master/networking_onos/services/sfc | 17:19 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: sounds good | 17:19 |
| LouisF | mohankumar: thx | 17:19 |
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| sridhar_ram | cathy_: here is one line of thought.. tacker has some code to talk to ODL SFC.. we can take that as a seed and somehow speed up neutron-sfc ODL integration .. that would be awesom | 17:19 |
| LouisF | sridhar_ram: the networking-sfc to odl driver would be similar | 17:20 |
| mohankumar | LouisF : yes | 17:20 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: sure, make sense... | 17:20 |
| LouisF | mohankumar: that onos driver has been working and tested for some time - right? | 17:21 |
| mohankumar | LouisF : yes | 17:21 |
| sridhar_ram | cathy_: just for the record, tacker doesn't have any preference to go directly to ODL, we prefer to use neutron-sfc for all backends | 17:21 |
| cathy_ | sridhar_ram: OK, I think Tacker should remove the direct interface to ODL, otherwise there are two paths to ODL in Tacker which is confusing and also not compliant with general Neutron architecture | 17:22 |
| sridhar_ram | sridhar_ram: overall agree, it was just the we were cooking at the same time.. the good news is tacker --> odl-sfc code hasn't landed | 17:23 |
| cathy_ | sridhar_ram: I see | 17:24 |
| sridhar_ram | cathy_: so, there is some wiggle room... | 17:24 |
| cathy_ | sridhar_ram: :-) | 17:24 |
| mohankumar | sridhar_ram: just want to know ODL already supports SFC ? i had same thought some weeks before too | 17:24 |
| mohankumar | https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Service_Function_Chaining:Main | 17:25 |
| sridhar_ram | cathy_: ... if we can speed up ODL work here, perhaps using the WIP code already in Tacker we all go home happy :) | 17:25 |
| cathy_ | mohankumar: no yet | 17:25 |
| cathy_ | mohankumar: we will add a ODL driver to integrate with networking-sfc | 17:25 |
| sridhar_ram | mohankumar: Yes, ODL has quite elaborate support for SFC | 17:25 |
| mohankumar | sridhar_ram: Ahh .. ok | 17:25 |
| sridhar_ram | mohankumar: ODL-SFC is a fairly active group for last many year.. use to lot of GBP, now we have non-GBP sfc options | 17:26 |
| sridhar_ram | cathy_: fyi, ODL now has "netvirtsfc" support .. so no need for GBP to do SFC | 17:26 |
| sridhar_ram | *use to do lot using GBP | 17:27 |
| cathy_ | sridhar_ram: I will take a look at the non-GBP option | 17:27 |
| sridhar_ram | cathy_: I'd request if your and this team help to get ODL sooner.. ! | 17:28 |
| cathy_ | sridhar_ram: will try our best:-) | 17:28 |
| sridhar_ram | cathy_: thanks.. | 17:29 |
| cathy_ | Regarding openstack-manual int the networking guide, I think we need to add networking-sfc there. | 17:29 |
| cathy_ | johnsom: what do you think? | 17:29 |
| cathy_ | johnsom: AFAIK you have been working on other Neutron subprojects. Do the other subprojects update the openstack-manual? | 17:30 |
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| cathy_ | LouisF: mohankumar do you think we should updtae that manual? | 17:31 |
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| mohankumar | cathy_ , we may need to update ..but not sure | 17:32 |
| cathy_ | prithiv: any idea? | 17:33 |
| mohankumar | does any documentation team will support us to add ? | 17:33 |
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| johnsom | cathy_ Sorry, stepped away. Yes, typically the neutron project teams submit the manual updates | 17:34 |
| cathy_ | mohankumar: not sure. | 17:34 |
| johnsom | At least the advanced services I work on do. | 17:34 |
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| LouisF | cathy_: we see where text needs to get added | 17:34 |
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| LouisF | cathy_: and engage with the doc teams | 17:34 |
| cathy_ | johnsom: thanks for the info. I think we need to submit the update patch ourselves or shall we ask the documentation team to do this? | 17:35 |
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| johnsom | We submit the patches, they correct us... grin | 17:36 |
| cathy_ | johnsom: Ok, thanks. | 17:36 |
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| cathy_ | We got request on doing a release of networking-sfc based on liberty code base. IS there any back porting rule saying we should not do this way? | 17:37 |
| cathy_ | johnsom: LouisF mohankumar any idea on this? | 17:38 |
| mohankumar | cathy_ : no idea | 17:38 |
| johnsom | There are rules about back porting, there is a doc somewhere on the wiki. Let me see if I can find it for you. | 17:39 |
| johnsom | cathy_ Some doc examples from our team: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226599/ https://review.openstack.org/224929 | 17:39 |
| johnsom | cathy_ This page talks to backport guidelines: http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html | 17:40 |
| cathy_ | johnsom: thanks. I remember reading this before. But it seems it applies to projects that already delivered a liberty release before. Anyway I will take a look at these. Thanks! | 17:41 |
| johnsom | Yes, trye | 17:41 |
| johnsom | true | 17:41 |
| johnsom | I guess you could do a local "stable/liberty" branch if it doesn't require changes to the other projects | 17:42 |
| johnsom | It would be a bit odd though. | 17:42 |
| cathy_ | johnsom: OK, thanks. that is in line with my thought. | 17:42 |
| LouisF | johnsom: we have a stable/liberty branch in the repo | 17:42 |
| cathy_ | it does not require changes to other projects, so we should be Ok | 17:43 |
| johnsom | So by release you were talking about a pypi release? If you already have a stable/liberty you must have tagged that already. | 17:44 |
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| cathy_ | I assume that it is not against the backport rules if networking-sfc does a first release on Liberty code base. johnsom what do you think? | 17:44 |
| cathy_ | johnsom: yes, pypi release | 17:45 |
| johnsom | Oh, ok. Yeah, no problem there | 17:45 |
| cathy_ | johnsom: great, thanks for the info! | 17:45 |
| cathy_ | That's all from my side. | 17:45 |
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| cathy_ | starting from next meeting, we will start discussing new features planned for second phase. | 17:47 |
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| cathy_ | If no other topic, I will end today's meeting early. | 17:47 |
| cathy_ | bye everyone | 17:48 |
| LouisF | ok bye | 17:48 |
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| cathy_ | igordcard: you joined when we will end the meeting:-) | 17:49 |
| cathy_ | #endmeeting | 17:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 11 17:49:17 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-02-11-17.02.html | 17:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-02-11-17.02.txt | 17:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-02-11-17.02.log.html | 17:49 |
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