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| kavit | hello all | 04:56 |
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| emagana | hi there kavit | 04:59 |
| kavit | I am going to start the meeting | 05:00 |
| kavit | #startmeeting Diversity Workgroup APAC 4th Feb 2016 | 05:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 4 05:00:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kavit. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Diversity Workgroup APAC 4th Feb 2016)" | 05:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'diversity_workgroup_apac_4th_feb_2016' | 05:00 |
| kavit | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStackDiversity.21 | 05:00 |
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| kavit | Please use the etherpad link above | 05:01 |
| kavit | #topic Roll Call | 05:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Diversity Workgroup APAC 4th Feb 2016)" | 05:01 | |
| kavit | Kavit Munshi, Aptira | 05:02 |
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| kavit | #topic Workstream 1: Code of Conduct | 05:05 |
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| kavit | do we have anyone online with updates on the Code of Conduct progress? | 05:05 |
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| kavit | alright I will ask Egle to follow up in the other meeting next week | 05:08 |
| kavit | #topic Workstream 2: Increase ease of on-boarding new Community Members | 05:08 |
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| kavit | We had contacted the foundation about this and I think Mike Perez has emailed the various mailing lists asking for mentors | 05:10 |
| ozstacker | hi everyone. sorry i'm late | 05:10 |
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| kavit | #topic Open Discussion | 05:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Diversity Workgroup APAC 4th Feb 2016)" | 05:14 | |
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| kavit | what would you like to see in 2016? | 05:15 |
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| ozstacker | lol | 05:16 |
| ozstacker | oh well at least we tried. | 05:16 |
| kavit | I would like to see the APAC meeting better attended | 05:16 |
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| ozstacker | good on you for having a go ;-) | 05:18 |
| kavit | #endmeeting | 05:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 05:18 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 4 05:18:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_workgroup_apac_4th_feb_2016/2016/diversity_workgroup_apac_4th_feb_2016.2016-02-04-05.00.html | 05:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_workgroup_apac_4th_feb_2016/2016/diversity_workgroup_apac_4th_feb_2016.2016-02-04-05.00.txt | 05:18 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_workgroup_apac_4th_feb_2016/2016/diversity_workgroup_apac_4th_feb_2016.2016-02-04-05.00.log.html | 05:18 |
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| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, bunting | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | #startmeeting Glance | 14:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 4 14:06:43 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:06 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:06 |
| hemanthm | o/ | 14:06 |
| bunting | o/ | 14:07 |
| avarner | o/ | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | hey folks | 14:07 |
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| flaper87 | :D | 14:07 |
| bunting | I thought it was cancelled today? | 14:07 |
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| kairat_ | me too | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | #chair rosmaita | 14:07 |
| openstack | Current chairs: flaper87 rosmaita | 14:07 |
| avarner | virtual meeting in 1hr, right? | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | It was not, not everyone will join the mid-cycle | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | yes | 14:07 |
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| flaper87 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | that's our agenda for today | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | There's not much in the agenda | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | #topic Glare updates | 14:08 |
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| bunting | Wait the one for the 11th? | 14:08 |
| kairat_ | So you need to fix agenda then: CANCELLED due to Glance virtual mini-summit. =) | 14:08 |
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| flaper87 | So, the glance meeting was not canceled. If you folks prefer to skip it then we can skip it now | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | bonus points for all attendees! | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | trade them in for wonderful prizes at the summit | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | hahahahhaa | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | (prize is a hug from flaper87 ) | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | Ok, we'll skip it unless folks vote against it | 14:10 |
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| rosmaita | while we're here i do have a quick question | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | for open discussion | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | #info The glance meeting of Feb 4th 2016 was skipped as we'll meet in 1h for the glance virtual mid-cycle | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | #topic Open Discussion | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:11 | |
| * flaper87 hopes the question won't take 1h | 14:11 | |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | 5 min, tops | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | what's the meaning of life? | 14:12 |
| bunting | 42 | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | ok, i never sent out the follow-up to the ML about the 'tar' disk_format proposal | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | bunting: ++ | 14:12 |
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| rosmaita | wanted to run something by us first | 14:12 |
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| rosmaita | mainly because it's not clear that ironic is going to implement this thing anyway | 14:12 |
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| rosmaita | but i put a comment on the spec-lite saying how about using the identifier 'os-tarball' for the disk_format | 14:13 |
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| rosmaita | i think 'tar' is confusing as to container, and also not very specific | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | wondering what people think | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | so these things would be disk_format == os-tarball, container_format == bare | 14:14 |
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| rosmaita | also, bikeshed alert: hyphen or underscore in the identifier? | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | mmh, mmh, I like it. What about just tarball? | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | let the bikshed begin | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | hahaha | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | the os- is for "operating system" not "openstack" by the way | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | (doesn't address flaper87's suggestion, just throwing that out there) | 14:15 |
| bunting | I guess keeping them all as one word avoids one bikeshed? | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | i don't know if there would be any non-os-tarballs | 14:16 |
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| rosmaita | bunting: we want them to be a clear syntactic unit, so i prefer no spaces | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | mmh, putting all tarballs under just tarball might not be good for backends. | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | IF you ever need to uncompress it, then you'll have to guess the format | 14:16 |
| bunting | rosmaita: i meant hypen or underscore | 14:17 |
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| rosmaita | bunting: gotcha ... 'ostarball' | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | well, like i said, this may not happen in ironic ... we can continue the bikeshed on the spec-lite | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | +1 | 14:19 |
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| flaper87 | will think the tarball think through a bit more and comment there | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | tty'all in 1h | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | i will reply to ML saying that comments aobut implementation should go on ironic speck, comments about how to id this thing go on glance spec-lite | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | ish | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | #endmeeting | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:19 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 4 14:19:30 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-02-04-14.06.html | 14:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-02-04-14.06.txt | 14:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-02-04-14.06.log.html | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: ops, sorry | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | :( | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | np | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | that's all i had | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | i think it got into the meeting notes | 14:19 |
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| rosmaita | ttyl | 14:20 |
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| TravT | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 4 15:00:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TravT. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:00 |
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| TravT | o/ | 15:01 |
| RickA-HP | o/ | 15:01 |
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| TravT | i saw sjmc7 and yingjun, i think. | 15:01 |
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| yingjun | Hi | 15:02 |
| TravT | hello | 15:02 |
| sjmc7 | hi | 15:02 |
| yingjun | I'm using my phone, slow typing | 15:02 |
| TravT | well, i don't see lakshmiS or david-lyle online. | 15:02 |
| TravT | i think we have kind of a light agenda today. | 15:03 |
| RickA-HP | Lakshmi was having issues with chat yesterday. | 15:03 |
| TravT | agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:03 |
| TravT | add anything there you want. | 15:03 |
| TravT | #Cross Project Specs | 15:03 |
| TravT | #topic Cross Project Specs | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cross Project Specs (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:03 | |
| TravT | Just FYI on a couple that will affect us | 15:04 |
| TravT | The policy and roles one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245629/ | 15:04 |
| TravT | I've had a blueprint open for awhile and have added a link to this into that blueprint. | 15:04 |
| sjmc7 | that one’s for the N cycle? | 15:05 |
| TravT | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/per-resource-type-policy-control | 15:05 |
| TravT | sjmc7: the cross project spec is for the N cycle | 15:05 |
| sjmc7 | you and i ahve spoken about this a bit. i think the rbac change that’s under review now can be expanded to cope with that | 15:06 |
| TravT | agreed on that. | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | since i didn’t go with a boolean flag | 15:06 |
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| sjmc7 | i think i’d like to wait and see how it pans out | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | how many priojects actually adopt it | 15:06 |
| TravT | i think we still might need to do a "light" version of that spec for us sooner than later. | 15:06 |
| TravT | with the role separation for field work by you there is a clumsy workaround | 15:07 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, let’s keep an eye on it | 15:07 |
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| sjmc7 | all my workarounds are clumsy! | 15:07 |
| TravT | set * for admin_only_fields | 15:07 |
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| TravT | but if, for example, yingjun gets hypervisor plugin in, then the UI and CLI will show non admins that they can search on hypervisors, but just won't get results, I believe | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | ah, yeah. there’s an optimization we could do to not index docs under that circumstance at al | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, that’s a stretch goal for this cycle :) | 15:08 |
| TravT | yeah, so, doing something there might be something that becomes freature freeze worthy. | 15:09 |
| TravT | but adopting that other cross project spec with all those roles is very unlikely to happen for much of openstack in M | 15:10 |
| TravT | There is also one on client backwards compatibility | 15:10 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/226157 | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | i’m sure there’ll be a lot of discussion at the summit | 15:10 |
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| RickA-HP | TravT: Sorry, back to the Policy Spec. | 15:11 |
| RickA-HP | WIll we need to make changes to our user role code to handle the different observers? | 15:12 |
| TravT | yeah, basically, this is a big reminder to us that if we go 1.0 (like I'd love to do) at the end of mitaka that we'll have to really start dealing with bakcwards compatibility | 15:12 |
| RickA-HP | Something we should be thinking about before a 1.0 release! | 15:12 |
| TravT | RickA-HP: I'm not sure. sjmc7 and I talked through it in IRC the other day | 15:13 |
| TravT | and basically determined that we need to put more thought in on it | 15:13 |
| TravT | there is a good chance there will be an impact. | 15:13 |
| TravT | but we're hoping it can be an iteration on top of current progress | 15:14 |
| RickA-HP | Ok. I agree about doing nothing for M and allow it to settle. | 15:14 |
| TravT | #topic Virtual Sprints | 15:16 |
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| nikhil | o/ | 15:17 |
| TravT | yingjun: rosmaita: the other day sjmc7, RickA-HP, lakshmiS and I were talking about having an hour hangout on Tuesdays to just talk and code share work | 15:17 |
| TravT | through end of mitaka. | 15:17 |
| TravT | to help us finish out. | 15:17 |
| TravT | o/ nikhil | 15:17 |
| yingjun | Okay | 15:18 |
| nikhil | I saw the virtual sprints and went hooray | 15:18 |
| TravT | what city are you in? | 15:18 |
| nikhil | The Openstack bug smash/hackathon days has been sorta finalized for Mar 7-9. and if people are interested in joining (remotely or otherwise) I think we can use a day there for this purpose. | 15:19 |
| nikhil | we are likely going to have fresh developers though, but simple bugs can be taken by them with us focusing on reviews | 15:20 |
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| TravT | yingjun: i'm not sure your time, but I was wondering if something like UTC: 23:00 or 24:00 would work better for you on Tuesdays. | 15:21 |
| TravT | rather than late you time | 15:21 |
| TravT | e.g. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2016&month=2&day=9&hour=23&min=0&sec=0&p1=1947&p2=33 | 15:21 |
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| TravT | or http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2016&month=2&day=10&hour=0&min=0&sec=0&p1=1947&p2=33 | 15:22 |
| yingjun | UTC 24 is better for me | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | either’d be fine for me | 15:22 |
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| RickA-HP | If UTC 24 is better for yingjun, that's fine with me. | 15:22 |
| TravT | so, http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2016&month=2&day=10&hour=0&min=0&sec=0&p1=1947&p2=33 | 15:23 |
| TravT | ? | 15:23 |
| sjmc7 | yep, that works | 15:23 |
| TravT | ok, i'll send out an invite for next week and see how it goes. | 15:23 |
| TravT | nikhil: re: hacakathon | 15:23 |
| TravT | how does that work? | 15:24 |
| TravT | is is just people agree to work on bugs that day on various projects? | 15:24 |
| yingjun | But not sure i can get time next week, it is spring festival in China here | 15:25 |
| TravT | oh, ok | 15:25 |
| TravT | yingjun: don't ruin your holiday for us | 15:25 |
| TravT | he can try after next week | 15:25 |
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| TravT | ok, well, let's move on. | 15:26 |
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| TravT | #topic reviews | 15:26 |
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| TravT | as usual, let's keep working on reviews. | 15:27 |
| TravT | Separate documents by role is top priority | 15:27 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257516/ | 15:27 |
| nikhil | oops, sorry I got pulled away at the last min. sorry about that. I will ping again in open discussion. | 15:27 |
| TravT | ok | 15:27 |
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| TravT | sjmc7: jenkins +1'd and my devstack is restacked, I will do a final lookover after this meeting. | 15:28 |
| sjmc7 | yaaay | 15:28 |
| TravT | probably good to go for now | 15:28 |
| TravT | I've just copy pasted the neutron review into the agenda for the last few weeks. | 15:29 |
| TravT | i haven't had time to look at the data mapping yet | 15:29 |
| sjmc7 | i think i have a good idea on that | 15:29 |
| sjmc7 | been holding off til some of the reviews go through to avoid spending all mytime rebasing | 15:29 |
| TravT | yeah. | 15:30 |
| TravT | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:%255E.*searchlight.*+status:open,n,z | 15:30 |
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| TravT | just a reminder of all the reviews | 15:30 |
| TravT | any specific questions anybody has on their reviews? | 15:30 |
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| RickA-HP | Which ones are higher priority? | 15:31 |
| sjmc7 | RickA-HP: some of them are really small | 15:31 |
| sjmc7 | and some are in dependency chains | 15:31 |
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| sjmc7 | the bigger ones are obviously a bit more time consuming but are needed for other work to land, so the ‘documents by role’ and ‘index child plugins as part of parent’ are ones i’d really like landed | 15:32 |
| TravT | from pure priority, the most important I think are Separate documents by role & Index child plugins as part of parent | 15:33 |
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| TravT | sjmc7: Index child plugins as part of parent conflicts with separate documents by role | 15:33 |
| TravT | so, i didn't want to look at it | 15:34 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, i know | 15:34 |
| sjmc7 | i’ll rebase it again | 15:34 |
| TravT | k | 15:34 |
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| RickA-HP | Ok, I'll take a look at Index child plugins. I'm getting tired of Separate Documents :) | 15:34 |
| TravT | enough bleeding eyes on that one, RickA-HP? ;) | 15:35 |
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| TravT | okay, let's move on to open discussion. | 15:35 |
| TravT | #open discussion | 15:35 |
| TravT | #topic open discussion | 15:35 |
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| TravT | nikhil? | 15:36 |
| rosmaita | (we are in glance midcycle mtg) | 15:36 |
| TravT | rosmaita: ahh, thanks! | 15:37 |
| rosmaita | (nikhil is speaking about glanceclient atm) | 15:37 |
| nikhil | thanks rosmaita | 15:37 |
| nikhil | I will multi task | 15:37 |
| TravT | nikhil, we can discuss hackathon next week | 15:37 |
| TravT | since it is 3 weeks out | 15:37 |
| TravT | 4 weeks | 15:38 |
| nikhil | So, my idea is to have one day dedicated to glance folks and one to searchlight during the hackathon | 15:38 |
| nikhil | just wanted to see if someone can fly in there | 15:38 |
| TravT | what does that mean? | 15:38 |
| nikhil | I need a repr from horizon if possible | 15:38 |
| nikhil | someone be there in NYC | 15:38 |
| nikhil | for the hackathon | 15:38 |
| TravT | is there a link on this? | 15:38 |
| nikhil | sure | 15:38 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: what are the remote attendance possibilities? | 15:39 |
| nikhil | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStack-Bug-Smash-Mitaka | 15:39 |
| nikhil | I have been promised a projector | 15:39 |
| nikhil | and right now am thinking a uberconference bridge with hangouts | 15:39 |
| nikhil | tl;dr; the sponsors are positive on remote conn | 15:40 |
| nikhil | TravT: sorry, I am a bit raw in my approach here. | 15:40 |
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| nikhil | TravT: so, I wanted to bring these 2 things up explicitly | 15:41 |
| nikhil | one is increasing SL interest and use a day during hackathon for bug smashing | 15:41 |
| TravT | well, i certainly think it could help | 15:42 |
| nikhil | second is get help from someone here to get in touch with horizon core who may be able to come to NYC chapter of hackathon to give a presentation or two and share some knowledge with new devs | 15:42 |
| TravT | well, i guess i'm a horizon core... | 15:42 |
| TravT | yesterday was the horizon meeting. | 15:42 |
| TravT | but i could bring up in the next one. | 15:43 |
| nikhil | Thanks TravT! | 15:43 |
| TravT | does it have to be NYC? | 15:43 |
| TravT | I see a bay area one | 15:43 |
| nikhil | if someone can be present in New York on Mar 7-9 that would be excellent! | 15:43 |
| TravT | and there are a couple horizon cores in the bay area | 15:43 |
| nikhil | both would be great, I am focusing on NYC. there is some interest in learning django stuff | 15:43 |
| TravT | if django is the focus, it definitely impacts who i'd try to get to go | 15:44 |
| nikhil | ah | 15:44 |
| nikhil | I guess any kind of application development will help | 15:44 |
| TravT | ok. | 15:44 |
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| nikhil | I think we may have a lot more of control plane folks there | 15:44 |
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| nikhil | data plane folks may be less and having some will def help | 15:45 |
| nikhil | and I am thinking of metadata control plane here which may be contradictory to binary data (confusing) | 15:46 |
| nikhil | Thanks. | 15:46 |
| TravT | nikhil: thanks for bringing this up | 15:47 |
| TravT | ! | 15:47 |
| TravT | wi | 15:47 |
| nikhil | my pleasure | 15:47 |
| TravT | we'll have to consider it, but we definitely will want to do something. | 15:47 |
| TravT | Any other topics today? | 15:47 |
| TravT | yingjun: did you have any questions regarding the comments i left on your CLI patch? | 15:48 |
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| yingjun | I didn't take a close look at that yet, but I'm ok to add --json | 15:49 |
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| TravT | ok | 15:50 |
| TravT | well thanks everybody | 15:50 |
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| TravT | rosmaita: nikhil: have fun in the glance mid-cycle! | 15:50 |
| rosmaita | TravT: ty | 15:51 |
| nikhil | Thanks TravT | 15:51 |
| TravT | o/ | 15:51 |
| TravT | #endmeeting | 15:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 4 15:51:37 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-02-04-15.00.html | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-02-04-15.00.txt | 15:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-02-04-15.00.log.html | 15:51 |
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| odyssey4me | #startmeeting OpenStack-Ansible | 16:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 4 16:04:14 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is odyssey4me. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack-Ansible)" | 16:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible' | 16:04 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Rollcall & Agenda | 16:04 |
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| oneswig | o/ | 16:04 |
| spotz | \o/ | 16:04 |
| vdo | o/ | 16:04 |
| serverascode | o/ | 16:04 |
| * mhayden multitasks :) | 16:05 | |
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| jmccrory | hi | 16:05 |
| automagically | o/ | 16:05 |
| palendae | o/ | 16:05 |
| TheIntern | o/ | 16:06 |
| odyssey4me | Howdy everyone! Sorry for the late start - my bad. I'm not great at multitasking. :/ | 16:06 |
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| michaelgugino | here | 16:06 |
| odyssey4me | ok, let's get to it. | 16:07 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Mid-Cycle meetup | 16:07 |
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| odyssey4me | A quick update. It seems positive that we'll be able to make use of the Rackspace Vidyo infrastructure to include anyone who wants to in the mid cycle. | 16:07 |
| automagically | So, remote participation will be possible? | 16:08 |
| oneswig | Will the mid-cycle be colocated with the ops meetup, which I hear is fully booked? | 16:08 |
| odyssey4me | I'm not sure how well it'll work, and clearly the time zone differences will interfere with full participation - but we'll give it a try. | 16:08 |
| odyssey4me | oneswig No, we're doing our own day after the Ops mid-cycle. | 16:09 |
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| odyssey4me | We will have some chats at the Ops Mid Cycle, but we'll focus most of our own discussions and work on our dedicated day. | 16:09 |
| oneswig | odyssey4me ok thanks | 16:09 |
| spotz | odyssey4me - yeah vidyo! | 16:09 |
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| odyssey4me | I'm going to setup another ticket type in eventbrite to indicate remote participation. | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | I'll then send the link to people who sign up for those tickets. :) | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | #action odyssey4me to create remote partiicpation tickets and send a ML update indicating the availability thereof | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | any questions/comments? | 16:12 |
| odyssey4me | #action odyssey4me to propose topics for discussion and work items for the mid cycle | 16:12 |
| logan- | if you don't mind post a link in the osa channel too for people who get behind on ML ;) | 16:12 |
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| odyssey4me | #action odyssey4me to add a link to the details about the mid cycle to the IRC channel topic | 16:13 |
| odyssey4me | :) hopefully that helps logan- | 16:13 |
| logan- | ty | 16:13 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Support for multiple availability zones | 16:14 |
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| odyssey4me | admin0 ping? | 16:14 |
| odyssey4me | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1539803 | 16:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1539803 in openstack-ansible "enable support for availability zones for compute and services" [Undecided,Invalid] | 16:15 |
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| odyssey4me | ok, in the absence of the person who raised the topic, we'll move on | 16:15 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Release Planning and Decisions | 16:16 |
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| odyssey4me | Do we have any particular patches or bugs that anyone is aware of that should hold back the tagging of the next releases in the next 18 hours? | 16:17 |
| odyssey4me | ok, I'll take that as a no - so I'll be tagging later today or early tomorrow, whenever I get the time to do so | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Open discussion | 16:19 |
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| odyssey4me | OK - does anyone have a topic they'd like to raise or discussion to be had? | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | I think we should perhaps have a chat about the pattern for multi-OS? | 16:20 |
| michaelgugino | I figured we'd continue with multi-os | 16:20 |
| palendae | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274932/ - mattt and cloudnull were discussing this being backported to liberty yesterday | 16:20 |
| vdo | yup, midonet support later | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | ah, vdo you're here | 16:20 |
| palendae | I would argue that doing so makes a hard requirement on upgrading to a specific liberty release before moving to Mitaka, so I'd think it shouldn't be backported | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | ok - you're on the agenda so let's do that quickly | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Midonet support | 16:21 |
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| odyssey4me | palendae michaelgugino we'll come back to those topics | 16:21 |
| michaelgugino | ok | 16:21 |
| michaelgugino | ping me please, I'm in another meeting. | 16:21 |
| odyssey4me | vdo it's your floor for no more than 10 mins | 16:21 |
| vdo | ok, I would like to add midonet support to the project | 16:22 |
| vdo | well at least midonet plugin | 16:22 |
| vdo | As I understood from the docs that should be extended outside of OSA | 16:22 |
| vdo | https://github.com/midonet/midonet-openstack-ansible (WIP) | 16:22 |
| odyssey4me | sounds good vdo - have you managed to build an AIO and take a look through the existing patterns? | 16:23 |
| vdo | yes, AIO | 16:23 |
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| palendae | vdo: Are cassandra and zookeeper hard requirements? | 16:23 |
| vdo | I've added zookeeper service successfully to it following your patterns | 16:23 |
| vdo | cassandra maybe not, zookeeper for sure | 16:24 |
| palendae | vdo: Ok, I wrote the extending docs, I think I conveyed a wrong impression | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | looks interesting, thanks for sharing your WIP ! | 16:24 |
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| vdo | roles are already in galaxy, but some code needs to be added | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | so vdo putting together your own Proof of Concept in your own repo is a great starting point | 16:25 |
| vdo | very similar to plumgrid | 16:25 |
| vdo | k | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | sounds good - do you need any active assistance? | 16:25 |
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| logan- | vdo: i have no idea if it is any value to you but I added projectcalico support for OSA in this branch https://github.com/logan2211/openstack-ansible/tree/liberty-calico. their plugin requires building etcd containers etc so there are roles built out for all of that | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | I think once you have a working AIO implementation then we can discuss next steps in terms of actually integrating into the stack's code base. | 16:26 |
| vdo | oks | 16:26 |
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| odyssey4me | wow logan- you are a rather busy fella :) | 16:27 |
| vdo | no assitance for now | 16:27 |
| vdo | thanks logan- I'll have a look | 16:27 |
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| odyssey4me | logan- that looks pretty good too - I'll examine that a little more deeply with the intent of adding a gate test scenario for that | 16:28 |
| odyssey4me | ok, thanks for letting us know vdo - and I'm happy to see that you're managing to figure stuff out | 16:29 |
| vdo | yes I'm on it... not full time though :) | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | as you should know by know, we're always available to assist whenever you need help in any way - just ask in #openstack-ansible | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | we're looking forward to that | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | ok, moving on | 16:29 |
| vdo | thanks | 16:30 |
| logan- | odyssey4me: cool | 16:30 |
| odyssey4me | #topic New nova DB that sneaked in under the radar | 16:30 |
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| odyssey4me | with thanks to SamYaple's heads up, we discovered that nova sneaked in a new DB in Kilo | 16:30 |
| odyssey4me | but nothing has used it until a recent patch in Mitaka | 16:31 |
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| odyssey4me | thus https://review.openstack.org/274932 implements the new DB | 16:31 |
| odyssey4me | there's been some discussion around whether this should be backported into Liberty | 16:31 |
| odyssey4me | any thoughts on that? | 16:32 |
| jmccrory | not even mentioned in liberty install guide http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/install-guide-ubuntu/nova-controller-install.html#prerequisites | 16:32 |
| palendae | jmccrory: Nope, it was added in Kilo and missed | 16:32 |
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| palendae | My downstream consumers are very resistance to having to upgrade to a minor version to jump to the next major | 16:32 |
| odyssey4me | palendae cloudnull michaelgugino automagically jmccrory d34dh0r53 andymccr hughsaunders mattt ? | 16:32 |
| odyssey4me | stevelle ? | 16:33 |
| palendae | So that's my concern about adding it to Liberty - it makes getting that liberty minor version in a mandatory step before moving to Mitaka | 16:33 |
| michaelgugino | I don't see a reason we can't bp it, it looks pretty self contained | 16:33 |
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| michaelgugino | maybe have it not deployed by default in liberty? | 16:34 |
| stevelle | I'm defaulting to no backport | 16:34 |
| jmccrory | think it should be ok to be included in just mitaka, seems like it'll get created only after the commit that makes use of it. so upgrades/greenfield installs to that point shouldn't have any issues | 16:34 |
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| odyssey4me | personally I don't really understand why it would need to be backported if it's not used in Liberty. I'd rather just see it appear in Mitaka and only backport it if it becomes a requirement. | 16:35 |
| palendae | Yeah | 16:35 |
| palendae | I'm not sure it would | 16:35 |
| palendae | Since they (nova) missed it in liberty and just now started using | 16:35 |
| odyssey4me | as with most things though, once the master commit merges then a backport can be proposed and discussed | 16:35 |
| odyssey4me | (in the review) | 16:35 |
| palendae | Fair enough | 16:35 |
| odyssey4me | but my current stand is that it shouldn't be | 16:35 |
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| odyssey4me | as it will be a fairly important thingto note, I've asked for the patch to include a release note | 16:36 |
| palendae | Yeah, worth having | 16:36 |
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| odyssey4me | palendae are you happy to leave the topic there? | 16:37 |
| palendae | odyssey4me: yep | 16:37 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Release notes | 16:37 |
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| odyssey4me | just briefly, I'd like to say that from now on I'm going to be asking a lot more often for docs/releasenotes with patches | 16:37 |
| odyssey4me | I'd like all reviewers to do the same. | 16:38 |
| odyssey4me | FYI: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/reno/usage.html#editing-a-release-note | 16:38 |
| odyssey4me | there are plenty of types of release notes, and the notes can be duplicated under different headings | 16:39 |
| odyssey4me | the idea is that once we cut the mitaka branch, most things that a deployer would need to start planning their upgrade strategy would be contained there | 16:39 |
| odyssey4me | any questions/comments? | 16:39 |
| palendae | Not from me - I'm all for that | 16:40 |
| michaelgugino | can we have that page linked in our contrib section | 16:40 |
| palendae | Yeah, that'd be good | 16:40 |
| odyssey4me | michaelgugino it's already there - see the last point in http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/developer-docs/contribute.html#general-guidelines-for-submitting-code | 16:40 |
| odyssey4me | perhaps it should be more obvious? | 16:40 |
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| michaelgugino | if it's a requirement, it should be more towards the top I think. | 16:41 |
| odyssey4me | FYI releasenotes are published here: http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/openstack-ansible/ | 16:41 |
| jmccrory | ah that's useful | 16:42 |
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| odyssey4me | I'm busy doing a trawl of git commits since the Liberty release and putting notes together. If anyone else wants to dive in and help that'd be very nice. :) | 16:43 |
| odyssey4me | hmm, it seems that there's a bit of a bug there, we have more releasenotes here: http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/openstack-ansible/mitaka.html | 16:43 |
| odyssey4me | I'll figure that out and get it fixed up | 16:43 |
| odyssey4me | ok, moving on | 16:44 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Multi-OS Support | 16:44 |
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| odyssey4me | #link https://review.openstack.org/274290 | 16:45 |
| odyssey4me | michaelgugino it's your floor :) | 16:45 |
| michaelgugino | well, I've put together one of the more simple roles with support for CentOS 7 | 16:45 |
| michaelgugino | a few of us collaborated on the approach, and I'm happy with how it turned out. | 16:46 |
| michaelgugino | and I think it gives us a good pathway forward. I think supporting the bigger two, debian/redhat distros, is where the primary focus should be | 16:46 |
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| michaelgugino | if someone is interested in supporting arch or some other distro, it's fairly obvious how to integrate the necessary changes, IMO | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | agreed, and that is the goal - to make it obvious | 16:47 |
| michaelgugino | What I'd like to do now is use this template to deploy to a host with systemd where we currently deploy upstart scripts manually. | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | the initial work doesn't need to target CentOS support necessarily, but it does need to make it obvious how to do so | 16:47 |
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| michaelgugino | Centos is easiest for me, as that's what I'm most familiar with. | 16:48 |
| odyssey4me | great, if you're keen to tackle both at once, then I'm very happy to support that | 16:48 |
| odyssey4me | there's an army of interested parties in the etherpad who've indicated that they're keen to help out | 16:48 |
| odyssey4me | but yeah, next step will be to figure out systemd | 16:48 |
| michaelgugino | I've got a few cycles right now, so I don't mind tackling some of it. And, as discussed last week, we needed to iron out the example of how to do it | 16:49 |
| michaelgugino | If everyone is satisfied with the layout, I will work on other roles. | 16:50 |
| odyssey4me | michaelgugino I'll liaise with the other cores to finalise the pattern and get it merged, then I'll see if we can raise some people to go ahead and start work on applying the pattern while you work on establishing the pattern for systemd. | 16:50 |
| michaelgugino | we need to discuss testing as well. | 16:50 |
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| odyssey4me | I can add a non-voting check to all the roles if that will aid the development/testing process? | 16:50 |
| automagically | michaelgugino work on laying down the pattern and responding to feedback | 16:50 |
| michaelgugino | but, that's not my area of expertise, so I'll leave that to everyone else ;) | 16:51 |
| automagically | Whoops, nice work, rather | 16:51 |
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| automagically | The question I’d have about per-role gates is how do we target the gate check to a particular OS/platform | 16:51 |
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| odyssey4me | #action odyssey4me to add a non-voting CentOS build to all the roles to aid the Multi-OS development process | 16:51 |
| palendae | I believe that's in the infra project definitions | 16:51 |
| palendae | automagically: ^ | 16:51 |
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| automagically | Ah, new to me, will check it out | 16:52 |
| palendae | They use a repo with jenkins job definitions | 16:52 |
| palendae | https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/ | 16:52 |
| odyssey4me | automagically I'll share the config changes to you so that you can see how :) | 16:52 |
| automagically | thx gents | 16:52 |
| odyssey4me | initially it'll be an 'experimental' job, so it won't run every commit - it'll only run when you specifically ask it to | 16:53 |
| odyssey4me | I'll help explain that once it's in | 16:53 |
| michaelgugino | that all sounds good to me. | 16:53 |
| odyssey4me | thanks michaelgugino great work on working through the feedback - happy to see someone take this work on! | 16:53 |
| michaelgugino | you're welcome. Happy to contribute. | 16:54 |
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| odyssey4me | #topic Open discussion | 16:54 |
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| odyssey4me | ok, we have 5 mins for any other topics | 16:55 |
| michaelgugino | well, my team is still working on DVR integration. I opened a blueprint, but I'm not really sure how to make a spec and all the other steps, but we're working on plays | 16:55 |
| automagically | michaelgugino: I know you had opened a blueprint around adding support for DVR, do you still have any plans to work on that area? | 16:55 |
| automagically | Ha, nice timing | 16:55 |
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| automagically | My team is very interested in contributing to the DVR spec and work | 16:55 |
| odyssey4me | excellent | 16:56 |
| logan- | i'm cuious if anyone has done multi-region deployments with osa | 16:56 |
| logan- | curious* | 16:56 |
| odyssey4me | logan- we did some research and drew some conclusions a while ago - I'll chat in the channel after the meeting about it | 16:56 |
| logan- | ok thanks | 16:56 |
| odyssey4me | automagically michaelgugino perhaps you guys should work on a spec draft in an etherpad, then submit it as a review? | 16:56 |
| michaelgugino | The changes to the neutron role where the services can be moved around will help us implement dvr greatly. I was having to implement a lot of logic, and now I just need to dev a couple roles and make new env.d files. | 16:57 |
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| odyssey4me | ah, nice michaelgugino I didn't know you were that far along | 16:57 |
| palendae | michaelgugino: You can see some existing specs and the template in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-ansible-specs | 16:57 |
| automagically | I was thinking that this looks like a good spec example to follow: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273749/2/specs/mitaka/lbaasv2.rst,unified | 16:57 |
| palendae | Yeah, that one was good | 16:57 |
| odyssey4me | fyi the specs are all published once they merge to http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-ansible-specs/ | 16:58 |
| automagically | michaelgugino: Can you share your WIP on DVR via GitHub or similar? | 16:58 |
| michaelgugino | okay, I bookmarked those pages for later review. | 16:58 |
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| automagically | And then we can add it to next week’s agenda for discussion | 16:58 |
| automagically | In the meantime, I’m stoked to hear that you’ve gotten so far | 16:59 |
| michaelgugino | I don't think we'll be ready by next week, but if we are I'll put it up somewhere. | 16:59 |
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| odyssey4me | michaelgugino even if it's not entirely in a working state, sharing can enable others to help out and get it moving quicker | 16:59 |
| odyssey4me | ok, we're out of time - we can chat in the channel | 16:59 |
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| odyssey4me | automagically I'd suggest adding that to next week's agenda | 16:59 |
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| odyssey4me | Thank you all for your time! | 17:00 |
| odyssey4me | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 4 17:00:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-02-04-16.04.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-02-04-16.04.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-02-04-16.04.log.html | 17:00 |
| cathy_ | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 4 17:00:36 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cathy_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:00 |
| cathy_ | hi everyone | 17:00 |
| LouisF | hi | 17:00 |
| vikram | hi | 17:00 |
| mohankumar_ | hi | 17:00 |
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| pcarver | hi | 17:01 |
| johnsom | o/ | 17:01 |
| hdaniel | hi | 17:01 |
| cathy_ | any topic your would like to discuss today? | 17:01 |
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| vikram | cathy_: I have something | 17:02 |
| cathy_ | vikram: go ahead | 17:02 |
| georgewang | hi | 17:02 |
| vikram | cathy_: I was just wondering on making logical source port as mandatory | 17:02 |
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| vikram | cathy_: If SFC is realized using NSH then is it required to make it mandatory? | 17:03 |
| cathy_ | vikram: no | 17:03 |
| cathy_ | but making it mandatory will improve performance | 17:04 |
| cathy_ | besides solving the loop problem | 17:04 |
| vikram | cathy_: The issue is.... defined NBI's will become de-facto and may not be useful | 17:04 |
| cathy_ | NSH will only solve the loop problem | 17:04 |
| cathy_ | Let me explain this a little bit more | 17:05 |
| vikram | ok | 17:05 |
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| cathy_ | If we do not make the logical source port mandatory, then FC needs to be installed and runs on all the compute nodes since we do not know the entry point of the traffic. Performance will be an issue. | 17:08 |
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| vikram | okay.. but why to make it mandate in the FC API.. | 17:08 |
| vikram | because it's no more generic | 17:08 |
| vikram | I mean we could have an option defined in the port-chain-create cli? | 17:09 |
| vikram | probably sfc-parameter or so? | 17:09 |
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| cathy_ | Let me think about this | 17:10 |
| vikram | ok | 17:10 |
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| s3wong | hello --- sorry, joined late | 17:11 |
| cathy_ | vikram: If we are thinking about making the FC generic across all Neutron features, not just for SFC, then we can think about this a little more. | 17:12 |
| cathy_ | Others, thought? | 17:12 |
| cathy_ | s3wong: hi, it is OK | 17:12 |
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| cathy_ | vikram: will get back to you later | 17:13 |
| vikram | cathy_: I was thinking from the controller perspective | 17:13 |
| vikram | cathy_: no issues | 17:13 |
| LouisF | the FC is going to evolve - i think there is a an idea to add TOS/diffserv | 17:13 |
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| vikram | To me let's not couple FC and port-chain interfaces | 17:14 |
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| cathy_ | FC is currently developed for port-chain. But yes I agree we should try to decouple them completely for it to evolve to be the generic FC. | 17:15 |
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| LouisF | i agree there | 17:16 |
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| cathy_ | A quick update on the release | 17:17 |
| vikram | ;) | 17:17 |
| cathy_ | A new branch has been pulled for releasing networking-sfc to be compatible with Liberty code base. We are working on it and will release a version compatible with stable/liberty | 17:18 |
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| LouisF | https://github.com/openstack/networking-sfc/tree/stable/liberty | 17:19 |
| cathy_ | So we are going to have two branches, one going with Master, the other going with stable/liberty. User can choose either version to download | 17:19 |
| mohankumar_ | cathy_ : lgtm | 17:20 |
| cathy_ | how is ONOS integration with networking-sfc API going? | 17:20 |
| vikram | cathy_: it works .. no issues | 17:21 |
| LouisF | do you have a demo? | 17:21 |
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| cathy_ | is the ONOS driver plugin merged into the networking-sfc repo? | 17:21 |
| vikram | driver changes are merged to networking-onos and sfc changes to onos | 17:21 |
| vikram | ONOS driver changes we merged to networking-onos repo | 17:21 |
| cathy_ | how do you integrate with networking-sfc API, DB, and common driver manager? | 17:23 |
| vikram | https://github.com/openstack/networking-onos/blob/master/doc/source/devref/sfc_driver.rst | 17:23 |
| vikram | https://github.com/openstack/networking-onos/blob/master/doc/source/devref/flowclassifier_driver.rst | 17:23 |
| cathy_ | Ok, thanks | 17:25 |
| LouisF | vikram: great work | 17:25 |
| cathy_ | how are horizon and heat work going? | 17:25 |
| vikram | mohankumar_: can you plz update? | 17:26 |
| mohankumar_ | cathy_ : yes | 17:26 |
| mohankumar_ | cathy_ for heat i tested code and posted to community | 17:27 |
| vikram | mohankumar_: do have the review link handy? | 17:28 |
| mohankumar_ | yes vikram | 17:28 |
| vikram | can you please paste so that team can review ;) | 17:29 |
| mohankumar_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249729/ | 17:29 |
| vikram | thanks | 17:29 |
| mohankumar_ | for horizon code , some integration code yet to check in | 17:30 |
| cathy_ | mohankumar_: I see some -1 on review and Jenkins. When do you think the heat patch can be ready fro merge? | 17:31 |
| mohankumar_ | cathy_ : most are minior review coments | 17:32 |
| mohankumar_ | cathy_ : wil post new patch tomorrow | 17:32 |
| cathy_ | mohankumar_: thanks for the work! | 17:33 |
| mohankumar_ | cathy_/LouisF : me facing issue in SFC setup , after installing "q-sfc-plugin" , shall we disscuss here or through mail ? | 17:34 |
| LouisF | mohankumar_: send us email on the detals | 17:34 |
| LouisF | details | 17:34 |
| mohankumar_ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/485928/ | 17:34 |
| cathy_ | mohankumar_: OK, let's discuss via email since it involves a lot of details | 17:35 |
| mohankumar_ | cathy_: ok .. thanks | 17:35 |
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| cathy_ | Anyone would like to discuss a little bit on new features for next phase? | 17:36 |
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| vikram | cathy_: I have few... | 17:36 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: you mentioned adding ODL, contrail plugin to networking-sfc. Still the same plan on your side? | 17:36 |
| cathy_ | vikram: sure | 17:36 |
| LouisF | drivers for odl and opencontrail? | 17:37 |
| pcarver | cathy_: I'd like to see that happen but don't have any specific resources to commit at the moment | 17:37 |
| cathy_ | how about adding integration of networking-sfc with OVN? | 17:37 |
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| cathy_ | pcarver: OK, hope you can get some resource. I am also trying to get resource commitment to help on that. Let's sync up later on that | 17:38 |
| cathy_ | Swami: hi, | 17:38 |
| Swami | hi | 17:38 |
| cathy_ | Swami: you missed important information:-) | 17:38 |
| cathy_ | vikram: go ahead | 17:39 |
| Swami | cathy_: sorry, I will take a look at the logs. | 17:39 |
| vikram | cathy_: We couldn't do much on SFC OAM during Mitaka but would like to take it up for Newton... Moreover, I was thinking of deploying a classifier VM via FC API | 17:39 |
| cathy_ | Swami: sure, np | 17:39 |
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| vikram | cathy_: classifier VM can sit in front of the chain by default | 17:40 |
| cathy_ | vikram: could you calrify what you mean by classifier VM via FC API | 17:40 |
| vikram | cathy_: Actually I was thinking of a traffic classification entity which could be deployed independently | 17:41 |
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| cathy_ | vikram: That is a good idea, I think | 17:42 |
| LouisF | vikram: so all ingress packets from the source VMs would be first steered to this FC VM? | 17:42 |
| vikram | LouisF: +1000 | 17:42 |
| vikram | LouisF: all the incoming traffic should be steered to this guy first | 17:43 |
| cathy_ | Yes, that is a good feature to add in our second phase, I think | 17:43 |
| LouisF | seems like potential bottleneck? | 17:43 |
| vikram | LouisF: We can have pool of such VM's | 17:44 |
| cathy_ | we can have multiple such FC VMs | 17:44 |
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| vikram | We can rather generalize this VM to do any functionality | 17:44 |
| vikram | like DPI / IPS or etc.. | 17:44 |
| vikram | sorry if I am sound off-track | 17:45 |
| vikram | *sounding | 17:45 |
| LouisF | vikram: no its a good idea - distributed FC | 17:46 |
| vikram | ok | 17:46 |
| hdaniel | cathy_, vikram: IMO to have several of those VM's, an additional classifier should be presented - to spread the traffic :) | 17:46 |
| cathy_ | Depending on user scenario, a DPI based FC is needed for some scenarios, such as subscriber based SFC which needs classification up to l7 | 17:47 |
| LouisF | its what we currently do for the OVS FC but it's distributed on every HV | 17:47 |
| vikram | hdaniel: ;) | 17:47 |
| vikram | LouisF: Yes we can avoid such duplicacy | 17:48 |
| LouisF | vikram: a FC VM would certainly be able to do DPI, IPS | 17:48 |
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| LouisF | vikram: agree, only want to have one type of FC active - VM or HV | 17:49 |
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| vikram | If the team feels it is interesting then let's start prototyping ;) | 17:50 |
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| vikram | I can do some initial write up | 17:50 |
| cathy_ | vikram: sure. thanks | 17:51 |
| cathy_ | It seems OVN is the prevailing SDN controller mechanism in OpenStack Neutron. I would like to get everyone's input on networking-sfc integration with OVN. We can discuss this in next meeting | 17:53 |
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| vikram | IIRC, russel raise few concerns earlier | 17:54 |
| LouisF | vikram: what concerns? | 17:54 |
| vikram | I saw a mail from him long back about API concerns | 17:55 |
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| cathy_ | There is another project on SDN controller, dragonflow | 17:55 |
| vikram | I cannot recollect.. | 17:55 |
| cathy_ | vikram: could you find out that email? | 17:55 |
| vikram | I will | 17:55 |
| cathy_ | vikram: thanks | 17:55 |
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| cathy_ | pcarver: s3wong Swami johnsom could you share your thought on OVN or dragonflow in our next meeting? | 17:56 |
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| vikram | https://www.mail-archive.com/openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org/msg66796.html | 17:57 |
| vikram | this is the mail | 17:57 |
| Swami | cathy_: ok will take up the dragonflow, since it is similar to dvr. | 17:57 |
| pcarver | cathy_: I haven't had time to read anything on dragonflow and I don't know a whole lot about OVN, but I think in general we want drivers for all the SDN controllers that people are using. | 17:57 |
| cathy_ | georgewang: hdaniel mohankumar_ could you also share your thought on OVN integration with networking-sfc in our next meeting? | 17:57 |
| pcarver | But I don't think we want to write them all. | 17:57 |
| mohankumar_ | cathy_ : sure | 17:58 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: agree | 17:58 |
| pcarver | Ideally we would want SDN controllers with SFC capabilities to see supporting the networking-sfc driver model as a natural thing, like supporting ML2 | 17:58 |
| cathy_ | Swami: ok, thanks. It seems OVN and dragonflow have very similar architecture and functionality | 17:58 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: exactly! | 17:59 |
| georgewang | I think we can discuss about if we want to support ovn in next release | 17:59 |
| LouisF | pcarver: +1 | 17:59 |
| georgewang | in next meeting | 17:59 |
| johnsom | I will ask our folks if there is a comment for next week. Personally I don't have one at the moment. | 17:59 |
| cathy_ | georgewang: yes, this is for our next release/phase. | 17:59 |
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| cathy_ | johnsom: please. thanks. | 17:59 |
| cathy_ | sorry our meeting time is up. let's sync up next meeting. | 18:00 |
| cathy_ | bye everyone | 18:00 |
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| mohankumar_ | bye | 18:00 |
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| vikram | bye | 18:00 |
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| cathy_ | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-02-04-17.00.html | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-02-04-17.00.txt | 18:01 |
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