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EmilienM | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 15:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 5 15:00:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 15:00 |
EmilienM | #link agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20160105 | 15:00 |
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EmilienM | hello folks, and happy new year! | 15:00 |
mwhahaha | hi | 15:00 |
richm | hello | 15:01 |
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EmilienM | #topic Review past action items | 15:02 |
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ntpttr | hello | 15:02 |
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EmilienM | people to review the patch about warnings in puppet-swift https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261327/ : done | 15:02 |
EmilienM | continue the investigation on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255529/ : mwhahaha ? | 15:02 |
mwhahaha | i put comments on the review | 15:02 |
EmilienM | ok cool | 15:02 |
mwhahaha | unfortunately i don't think it can be solved without some sort of rewrite | 15:03 |
EmilienM | mwhahaha: let's rewrite it! | 15:03 |
EmilienM | I don't see a trouble in that | 15:03 |
mwhahaha | unless there's a puppet way to surpress the warnings because it's loading the class prior to evaulating the other stuff | 15:03 |
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mwhahaha | but basically we're defining the same config in two ways so it give a warning unless you specify the common class yourself | 15:04 |
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mwhahaha | (that's all i've got on that) | 15:04 |
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EmilienM | mwhahaha: I guess a rewrite would make sense | 15:04 |
ntpttr | yes that's all I could think of at this point as well | 15:04 |
EmilienM | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/puppet-nova/+bug/1506066 | 15:04 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1506066 in puppet-nova "Scope-related warnings from nova::vncproxy::common" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Nate Potter (ntpttr) | 15:05 |
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ntpttr | thanks for the feedback on that one mwhahaha | 15:05 |
EmilienM | mwhahaha: how would you see a rewrite? | 15:05 |
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EmilienM | maybe we can discuss that in the launchpad or in gerrit review | 15:06 |
mwhahaha | yea i'm not sure at the moment | 15:06 |
EmilienM | ok | 15:06 |
EmilienM | #action consider a rewrite design for https://bugs.launchpad.net/puppet-nova/+bug/1506066 | 15:06 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1506066 in puppet-nova "Scope-related warnings from nova::vncproxy::common" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Nate Potter (ntpttr) | 15:06 |
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EmilienM | EmilienM update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261120/ like it's done for other modules -> DONE + ironic done too | 15:07 |
EmilienM | people to review the warning/puppet-sahara patch: https://review.openstack.org/261481 : DONE | 15:07 |
EmilienM | catchup with cody on https://bugs.launchpad.net/puppet-vswitch/+bug/1524559 -> not done (and he's offline now) | 15:07 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1524559 in puppet-vswitch "warnings in ovs_redhat.rb code" [High,Confirmed] | 15:07 |
EmilienM | #action catchup with Cody about https://bugs.launchpad.net/puppet-vswitch/+bug/1524559 | 15:07 |
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EmilienM | postpone sprint schedule to next meeting and define a meeting date by then -> done (we have a topic about that today) | 15:08 |
EmilienM | and catch-up with notmorgan about bug 1529374 (need to be postponed) | 15:08 |
openstack | bug 1529374 in puppet-keystone "keystone::endpoint::version set to empty has no effect" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1529374 - Assigned to Sofer Athlan-Guyot (sofer-athlan-guyot) | 15:08 |
EmilienM | #topic sprint | 15:08 |
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EmilienM | it seems that 25-26-27 of January would work for everyone | 15:08 |
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EmilienM | crinkle, mfisch, chem ^ is it ok for you? | 15:09 |
EmilienM | nibalizer and denis are not online | 15:09 |
chem | EmilienM: sorry I missed it | 15:09 |
EmilienM | chem: 25-26-27 of January for the puppet sprint | 15:10 |
chem | EmilienM: yep | 15:10 |
EmilienM | is it ok for everyone? | 15:10 |
EmilienM | (everyone who participate) | 15:10 |
EmilienM | #link sprint etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-happy-new-year-2016 | 15:10 |
ntpttr | yes | 15:10 |
EmilienM | ntpttr: I don't see your name | 15:10 |
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ntpttr | headed to the etherpad now :) | 15:11 |
ntpttr | have to recheck dates of cinder midcycle quick | 15:11 |
EmilienM | we'll have to wait for crinkle, nibalizer and mfisch confirmations too | 15:12 |
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EmilienM | but I guess that's fine regarding constraints | 15:12 |
EmilienM | it's very hard to satisfy everyone :) | 15:12 |
EmilienM | we don't have much items today, so I suggest we do a bug/review triage | 15:13 |
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EmilienM | ntpttr, chem, mwhahaha, richm: do you have patches / bugs that need attention? | 15:14 |
mwhahaha | nope | 15:14 |
EmilienM | oh _ody is here :-) | 15:14 |
EmilienM | _ody: I wanted to catchup about https://bugs.launchpad.net/puppet-vswitch/+bug/1524559 | 15:14 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1524559 in puppet-vswitch "warnings in ovs_redhat.rb code" [High,Confirmed] | 15:14 |
_ody | just stumbled in for the tail. | 15:14 |
EmilienM | do you have something in progress for that bug? | 15:14 |
chem | EmilienM: my same old https://review.openstack.org/202689 | 15:14 |
EmilienM | _ody: good morning sir :) | 15:14 |
ntpttr | EmilienM: still some commits for puppet-magnum https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253216/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254392/ | 15:14 |
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ntpttr | and for some reason the tripleo jobs having trouble in the multiple store implementation in glance https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242718/ | 15:15 |
_ody | EmilienM: I didn't. You simply asked me about the error one day. I feel like I know what is going on though so you can assign it to me. | 15:15 |
EmilienM | _ody: thanks | 15:16 |
ntpttr | not a lot new since just got back from holiday yesterday | 15:16 |
EmilienM | we're going to get rid of all warnings, I like it! | 15:16 |
EmilienM | _ody: can you assign it to you? | 15:16 |
EmilienM | ntpttr: doing recheck again | 15:17 |
EmilienM | ntpttr: last recheck did not recheck :) | 15:17 |
richm | I don't think so | 15:17 |
EmilienM | I have a question for richm and chem | 15:17 |
ntpttr | EmilienM: Ah that would make sense! thanks | 15:17 |
richm | #topic bug triage/review | 15:17 |
EmilienM | yeah | 15:17 |
EmilienM | #topic bug triage/review | 15:17 |
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EmilienM | thanks richm | 15:17 |
EmilienM | richm, chem, what do you think about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261317/ | 15:18 |
_ody | done | 15:18 |
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richm | Does it cause problems to have a space in the service name? | 15:19 |
EmilienM | richm: I also wondered but I haven't noticed any issue until now | 15:19 |
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EmilienM | I also wanted to read from mdorman mfisch and clayton eventually | 15:20 |
EmilienM | but seems like they're busy | 15:20 |
Vinsh | I think timezone is an issue for some now | 15:21 |
chem | EmilienM: the update path is not clear for me, what was the previous name of this service before (or I will check later) | 15:21 |
clayton | I got here late | 15:21 |
EmilienM | #link etherpad agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20160105 | 15:21 |
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richm | EmilienM: I don't really understand what the problem is - my only concern is that existing deployments may have some implicit or explicit assumptions (e.g. some sort of external monitoring script) that expects service name == openstack project name | 15:22 |
EmilienM | Vinsh: why? it's the same schedule as usual | 15:22 |
clayton | EmilienM: as long as their is some way to override it to the old name I'm fine with "fixing" them. | 15:22 |
EmilienM | clayton: context: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261317/ | 15:22 |
EmilienM | there is a way to override it | 15:22 |
richm | but it looks as though this is something that mmagr has planned to deprecate for a while now | 15:22 |
Vinsh | Not sure, is 8am for MST guys.. could be busy with family before work. | 15:22 |
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clayton | nod, I saw the previous discussion about it on the mailing list or some such | 15:23 |
richm | I'm MST | 15:23 |
EmilienM | Vinsh: the time changed for you? | 15:23 |
ntpttr | EmilienM: I just moved back to PST, 7am here now | 15:23 |
Vinsh | Just talking about mfisch ;) | 15:23 |
EmilienM | is it the same time for US folks? | 15:23 |
Vinsh | it moved up an hour with the day light time change right? | 15:23 |
EmilienM | Vinsh: but he usually comes up in our meetings so I'm wondering if US changed time? | 15:23 |
EmilienM | Vinsh: very long time ago | 15:24 |
EmilienM | "last year" ;-) | 15:24 |
richm | US DST -> ST was in November | 15:24 |
EmilienM | no, seriously, schedule did not change since Nov | 15:24 |
EmilienM | richm: yeah we change the default | 15:24 |
Vinsh | Stuff comes up, folks can be busy I suppose. :) | 15:24 |
EmilienM | but I wanted to hear from actual operators and see if that's acceptable | 15:24 |
EmilienM | but clayton seems ok if they can override it (which is the case already) | 15:25 |
EmilienM | clayton: I'll you review this patch please | 15:25 |
EmilienM | so we can make progress on other modules | 15:25 |
EmilienM | we have 4 other modules to update iirc | 15:25 |
EmilienM | #action operators to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261317/ | 15:25 |
mfisch | here now | 15:26 |
EmilienM | MFISH ! | 15:26 |
EmilienM | mfisch: sprint: we need to define the final schedule | 15:26 |
EmilienM | 25-26-27 of January is ok for you? | 15:27 |
mfisch | 1 sec | 15:27 |
mfisch | yes thats fine | 15:27 |
mfisch | I'm out the 28th, was double checking | 15:27 |
EmilienM | cool | 15:27 |
EmilienM | so we need nib & crinkle confirmations I guess | 15:27 |
mfisch | per usual I wont be here 100% but will do what I can | 15:28 |
EmilienM | mfisch: awesome | 15:28 |
EmilienM | I have a backport: https://review.openstack.org/263745 for puppet-neutron | 15:28 |
EmilienM | this one too: https://review.openstack.org/263503 | 15:29 |
EmilienM | I also need review on ironic/wsgi https://review.openstack.org/263450 | 15:29 |
EmilienM | I also initiated puppet-rally https://review.openstack.org/262970 and I talked with Andy on IRC and we're going to work together on the follow-up | 15:29 |
iurygregory | nice =D | 15:30 |
EmilienM | need review on ironic/workers https://review.openstack.org/262966 | 15:30 |
EmilienM | ironic/warnings: https://review.openstack.org/262799 | 15:30 |
EmilienM | glance/warnings: https://review.openstack.org/261120 | 15:30 |
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EmilienM | chem: I'll see how https://review.openstack.org/261105 works now | 15:30 |
EmilienM | but it's weird it does not pass CI | 15:30 |
EmilienM | and it worked for you | 15:31 |
EmilienM | one of you could merge the refactor of integ manifests ? https://review.openstack.org/261115 | 15:31 |
EmilienM | it would help | 15:31 |
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EmilienM | another backport for swift: https://review.openstack.org/259885 | 15:31 |
EmilienM | a deprecation for ceilometer: https://review.openstack.org/260604 | 15:32 |
EmilienM | and I'll stop here :) | 15:32 |
mfisch | that refactor is huge! | 15:32 |
EmilienM | mfisch: yeah | 15:32 |
EmilienM | but very helpful I think | 15:32 |
chem | EmilienM: so the bug is indeed invalid, no ? | 15:32 |
EmilienM | chem: for now, until the CI is red, there is something we need to look at | 15:32 |
EmilienM | chem: tempest was failing last time | 15:32 |
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EmilienM | let check now how it works :) | 15:32 |
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EmilienM | if you have anythin else for today go ahead | 15:34 |
EmilienM | or I'll close the meeting in 30s | 15:34 |
chem | EmilienM: I can further inverstigate the tempest failure, just to see. I still have my idea why it fails ... :) | 15:34 |
EmilienM | chem: ahah nice :) thx for your help | 15:34 |
EmilienM | thank you all for your time | 15:34 |
EmilienM | see you online | 15:34 |
EmilienM | #endmeeting | 15:35 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 5 15:35:05 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:35 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-01-05-15.00.html | 15:35 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-01-05-15.00.txt | 15:35 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-01-05-15.00.log.html | 15:35 |
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mugsie | #startmeeting Kosmos | 16:08 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 5 16:08:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:08 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:08 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kosmos' | 16:08 |
johnsom | o/ | 16:08 |
mugsie | johnsom: dougwig xgerman : ping | 16:08 |
mugsie | sorry for the delay - got distracted | 16:08 |
johnsom | Same here, so perfect timing! | 16:08 |
mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 16:09 |
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mugsie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/kosmos | 16:09 |
xgerman | yo | 16:09 |
johnsom | I may not be able to make the meeting next week. I will be at the LBaaS/FWaaS mid-cycle. However I will be in Seattle for this mid-cycle the week after. | 16:09 |
xgerman | so I will be coming to SEA as well | 16:09 |
mugsie | damn | 16:09 |
xgerman | johnsom +1 | 16:09 |
mugsie | i mean, great xgerman :P | 16:10 |
mugsie | got to inspect the flood damage? | 16:10 |
xgerman | but I am also challenges next week | 16:10 |
xgerman | absolutely | 16:10 |
xgerman | my Mac might be affected | 16:10 |
johnsom | hahaha | 16:10 |
mugsie | cool. we can postpone next week if everyone is going to be in TX | 16:10 |
johnsom | I think everyone but you will be attending in TX | 16:11 |
xgerman | yep | 16:11 |
mugsie | #action mugsie cancel next IRC meet | 16:11 |
mugsie | so, the reviews ^ need some love / hate | 16:11 |
mugsie | one is basic | 16:11 |
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mugsie | (its an automated sync with requirements | 16:12 |
mugsie | ) | 16:12 |
johnsom | So there will be lots of code to review and work planned out for the week after right? Since we won't be around bugging you | 16:12 |
mugsie | yeap | 16:12 |
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mugsie | I spent Xmas away from computers - I have about 5-6 pages of notes I need to move online | 16:12 |
johnsom | Cool. | 16:12 |
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mugsie | but the 1st 2 of that chain need to get merged to avoid a massive long patch chain :P | 16:13 |
johnsom | We got the status API documentation merged. Min will be looking at the neutron client stuff soon. | 16:13 |
mugsie | cool | 16:13 |
mugsie | any other topics? | 16:13 |
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mugsie | going once | 16:14 |
mugsie | twice | 16:14 |
mugsie | #endmeeting | 16:14 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 5 16:14:55 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:14 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kosmos/2016/kosmos.2016-01-05-16.08.html | 16:14 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kosmos/2016/kosmos.2016-01-05-16.08.txt | 16:14 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kosmos/2016/kosmos.2016-01-05-16.08.log.html | 16:15 |
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sridhar_ram | #startmeeting tacker | 17:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 5 17:01:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sridhar_ram. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 17:01 |
sridhar_ram | #topic Roll Call | 17:01 |
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vishwanathj | o/ | 17:01 |
sridhar_ram | who is here for tacker ? | 17:01 |
sripriya_ | o/ | 17:01 |
s3wong | o/ | 17:01 |
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sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: sripriya_: s3wong: good morning ! | 17:02 |
vishwanathj | Happy new year to all the Tackers | 17:02 |
s3wong | hello all | 17:02 |
sripriya_ | morning and happy new year! | 17:02 |
bobh | o/ | 17:02 |
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sridhar_ram | Glad to be back after a break. Happy new year to you all! | 17:03 |
sridhar_ram | lets start | 17:03 |
sridhar_ram | #topic Agenda | 17:03 |
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sridhar_ram | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_Jan_5.2C_2016 | 17:03 |
sridhar_ram | #topic Announcements | 17:03 |
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sridhar_ram | Tacker mitaka mid-cycle will be held on Jan 28, 29 | 17:04 |
sridhar_ram | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/083327.html | 17:04 |
sridhar_ram | please mark you calendars and plan to attend | 17:04 |
sridhar_ram | First Liberty drop to pypi (version 0.2.0) should happen sometime this week .. just an heads up | 17:05 |
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vishwanathj | Will there be an option to attend remote? | 17:05 |
sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: there are few requests so far for remote attendance option... | 17:06 |
sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: .. I plan to attend at least provide a conference bridge | 17:07 |
vishwanathj | cool...that will be awesome | 17:07 |
sridhar_ram | F2F will be preferred for all the whiteboarding :) | 17:07 |
sridhar_ram | #topic Mitaka blueprint updates | 17:08 |
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sridhar_ram | lets go around for a quick status... | 17:08 |
sridhar_ram | sripriya_: any further updates on Multi-Site ? | 17:09 |
sripriya_ | sridhar_ram: uploaded new version implementing the comments before the holidays | 17:09 |
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sripriya_ | sridhar_ram: so far not received any new comments on the spec | 17:09 |
sripriya_ | sridhar_ram: also started the implementation in parallel for the spec | 17:10 |
sridhar_ram | cool.. any blockers / major issues at this point ? | 17:10 |
sripriya_ | sridhar_ram: the only new update i wanted to provide was on allocating a special 'nfv' tenant to tacker users than the default 'service' tenant which is the current default behavior | 17:10 |
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sripriya_ | sridhar_ram: with a special user name and password to access the tenant, probaly this could evolve to more fine grained control such as multi tenancy and RBAC | 17:11 |
sripriya_ | probably* | 17:11 |
sridhar_ram | sripriya_: I think it is a good idea to call out a special tenant .. even today 'service' tenant comes from devstack tacker.conf. we are indeed abusing 'service' tenant | 17:12 |
sripriya_ | sridhar_ram: i plan to upload a new spec with those changes | 17:12 |
vishwanathj | can the admin not specify their own tenant instead of tacker using a service or nfv tenant? | 17:12 |
sripriya_ | sridhar_ram: agree | 17:12 |
sridhar_ram | sripriya_: it make sense to tackle multi-tenancy in a follow on spec / RFE... | 17:13 |
sripriya_ | vishwanathj: that can be done, but it is a bit more involved in terms of vim privileges and which users can control that | 17:13 |
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sripriya_ | sridhar_ram: yes | 17:13 |
vishwanathj | sripriya_ got it | 17:14 |
sripriya_ | this special tenant is assumed to exist in the remote vim created by the operator on the remote site | 17:14 |
sripriya_ | i plan to document this as part of the implementation | 17:15 |
sripriya_ | i hope to have a WIP soon with these changes | 17:15 |
trozet | heh when I was doing the SFC demo I was wondering why the service tenant was always being used, thought it was a bug... | 17:15 |
sripriya_ | trozet: no :-) thats hard coded on the tacker.conf | 17:15 |
sridhar_ram | trozet: it made sense when tacker used to be for service-vms .. but not any more for NFV scope | 17:16 |
trozet | sripriya_: shouldn't it be whatever user and tenant is calling the client? why restrict to service tenant? | 17:16 |
trozet | ok | 17:16 |
sridhar_ram | sripriya_: great progress. IMO, this spec is the only one without much dependency on others .. so get this sailing! | 17:16 |
sridhar_ram | sripriya_: anything else ? | 17:16 |
sripriya_ | trozet: yes that should be the behavior, and discussed this offline with sridhar_ram, but its good to support this as part of multi tenancy in the right way | 17:17 |
sripriya_ | sridhar_ram: that's it as far as updates | 17:17 |
LouisF | sridhar_ram: there is a separate service vm tenant? | 17:17 |
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sridhar_ram | LouisF: no, today tacker piggyback on the "service" tenant created in OpenStack... this is the tenant different services like nova, neutron runs | 17:18 |
LouisF | sridhar_ram: ok thanks | 17:19 |
sridhar_ram | folks - please review the multi-site spec.. leave your comments / +1s / +2s .. thanks! | 17:20 |
sridhar_ram | #topic SFC updates | 17:20 |
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sridhar_ram | trozet: I saw you uploaded a new version .. | 17:20 |
trozet | sridhar_ram: yeah, tried to incorporate vnffg changes | 17:21 |
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sridhar_ram | trozet: I'm quite happy how it shaped.. | 17:21 |
sridhar_ram | s3wong: any further thoughts from your side ? | 17:21 |
trozet | sridhar_ram: that's great to hear, the vnffg looks ok? | 17:21 |
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s3wong | yes, I like that now there is only one vnffg driver | 17:22 |
s3wong | now the flow classifier is a mechanism driver | 17:22 |
sridhar_ram | trozet: vnffg nomenclature looks better | 17:22 |
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s3wong | sridhar_ram, trozet: I will take one more look before putting my +2, should happen later today | 17:23 |
trozet | s3wong: thank you | 17:23 |
sridhar_ram | s3wong: sounds good! thanks! | 17:23 |
sridhar_ram | #topic TOSCA Parser | 17:23 |
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sridhar_ram | bobh: please take over ..! | 17:24 |
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bobh | Thanks - I think... I have two patchsets waiting for review in tosca-parser, one allows tosca-parser to be used from a server process instead of the command-line, and the other is for the NFV changes | 17:24 |
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bobh | The basic changes required for NFV Profile support should be roughly complete, but I need to format some tests and make sure it actually works with "real" examples | 17:25 |
bobh | The examples in the OASIS document aren't really useful - or particularly accurate | 17:26 |
sridhar_ram | bobh: agree, on those usefulness of OASIS spec examples.. I'm trying to fix it on that side, going to be one of my first contributions there :) | 17:27 |
bobh | If I can get the first patchset approved and released we could start using tosca-parser/heat-generator without the NFV specific changes | 17:27 |
bobh | then add in the NFV support when it is available | 17:27 |
vishwanathj | bobh do you mind sharing the link to the patchsets, thanks | 17:28 |
bobh | we will need to determine how to specify our "vdu" and "mgmt_ip" tags in official TOSCA | 17:28 |
bobh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256952/ | 17:29 |
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bobh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253689/ | 17:29 |
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bobh | There are some other issues too, like the fact that a "VDU" is defined as a "SoftwareCOmponent" that requires a Container, so you would have to specify the Compute separately from the VDU | 17:29 |
bobh | so I think this will be a progression of changes as it evolves, but we should be able to get the base support in place fairly soon | 17:30 |
sridhar_ram | bobh: yes, this was heavily discussed on the tosca wg.. SoftwareComponent vs Compute. Agree, this will be a progression as we march along.. | 17:31 |
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bobh | sridhar_ram: I was originally thinking that the NFV Profile would "overlay" the Simple profile, but it appears it will be more of a "mixin" | 17:32 |
sridhar_ram | bobh: any word on the dependency ? I know tbh depends on your work... | 17:32 |
bobh | sridhar_ram: I'll ping the tosca-parser reviewers this week. I wanted to give them a day or two to get back up to speed. If they can approve the first patchset I'll start the tacker changes to support tosca-parser/heat-translator | 17:33 |
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sridhar_ram | bobh: yes, most of NFV contructs are introduced as "requirements" for a SoftwareComponent (a.k.a VDU)..apparently this makes the syntax easier (that was the reason given when I challenged them) | 17:33 |
bobh | sridhar_ram: if this is the easy version, not sure I'd want to see the complicated one... | 17:34 |
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sridhar_ram | bobh: for tacker side of things .. are you planning a spec or RFE write up ? | 17:34 |
sridhar_ram | bobh: same here! | 17:35 |
bobh | I think it could be an RFE - not extensive changes in code, though specifying the vdu and mgmt_ip will need to be resolved | 17:35 |
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sridhar_ram | bobh: sounds good | 17:36 |
bobh | there is no "official" way to support those tags in TOSCA Simple profile today - unless we want to create custom nodes | 17:36 |
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sripriya_ | sridhar_ram: bobh: just to be sure, the vim specific properties in tosca template will still be handled by tacker only right? | 17:36 |
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bobh | sripriya_: yes, that's the plan. tacker should be able to "prune" the tree generated by tosca-parser and remove the tacker-specific objects | 17:36 |
sridhar_ram | bobh: I think we need to be open for some NFV customizations of tosca-parser for Tacker needs.. we can't be restricted to Simple Profile... | 17:37 |
sripriya_ | bobh: ok | 17:37 |
sridhar_ram | bobh: worst case we can create a tosca-nfv parser library that frontends tosca-parser (which is for simple-profile) | 17:37 |
sridhar_ram | bobh: .. and make tacker depend on tosca-nfv library | 17:38 |
bobh | sridhar_ram: I think the NFV extensions to tosca-parser will help with that, so then we need to decide whether to push the cusomizations into the NFV profile or generate our own node templates | 17:39 |
bobh | sridhar_ram: or maybe both | 17:39 |
sridhar_ram | bobh: for now I'm equating our customizations, particularly coming from Automatic Resource creation and enhanced VNF placement, as *the* NFV profile | 17:40 |
sridhar_ram | ... again, here our code would be bit ahead of the spec | 17:40 |
sridhar_ram | IMO only the monitoring tag and mgmt_ip will be our pure tacker customization.. | 17:41 |
bobh | sridhar_ram: ok, then we should probably define them as our own node types and they can be imported from a server-side library | 17:41 |
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bobh | sridhar_ram: I'll try to put together an example - maybe this needs a spec after all | 17:42 |
brucet_ | bobh: Have you created a doc that maps Tosca NFV profile to Heat resources / properties yet? | 17:42 |
sridhar_ram | bobh: agree, this is significant enough .. it warrants a spec | 17:42 |
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bobh | brucet_: no, I need to get started on that - I want to list them in an Etherpad so people can suggest mappings | 17:42 |
brucet_ | OK. Good idea. | 17:43 |
bobh | brucet_: there may not actually be that many mappings to translate, but need to walk through them all | 17:43 |
brucet_ | Doesn't everything have to translate?? | 17:44 |
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bobh | brucet_: well, that's a good question. If you look at the "VNF" definition in the profile, I don't see that it translates to anything in Heat | 17:44 |
bobh | brucet_: VDU inherits from SoftwareComponent so that may be already handled | 17:45 |
brucet_ | Are you envisioning that the translator does all the translation in a single pass and then does a Create-Stack? | 17:45 |
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brucet_ | I'm hoping that's the case. | 17:46 |
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brucet_ | Then someone could use either Tosca NFV templates for direct Heat templates with Tacker | 17:46 |
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bobh | brucet_: as far as I can tell, the tosca-parser would take the YAML VNFD/parameters and generate a ToscaTemplate object, which can then be manipulated by Tacker as needed, then passed to heat-translator to create the stack template | 17:46 |
sridhar_ram | bobh: brucet_: this is the reason .. we need a tacker side spec :) It is a 2 step process, tacker --> tosca-parser, followed by tacker --> heat-generator | 17:47 |
brucet_ | OK. Didn't know it was a 2 step process. I think a spec is needed. | 17:47 |
bobh | i'll get started on a spec this week | 17:48 |
sridhar_ram | bobh: great thanks.. meanwhile if you can unblock tbh in someway that would be great | 17:48 |
bobh | I'll see what I can do | 17:49 |
sridhar_ram | bobh: thanks! | 17:49 |
sridhar_ram | #topic Enhanced VNF Placement | 17:49 |
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sridhar_ram | gongsyh: vishwanathj: any updates on this spec ? | 17:49 |
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vishwanathj | I made some initial updates providing a VNFD structure with examples for CPU Pinning, Huge Pages and NUMA topology to the spec.... | 17:50 |
vishwanathj | gongsyh and I had a chance to discuss my changes early today and we are both in sync and agreement with the modifications that I made... | 17:51 |
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sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: great.. my understanding is this spec depends on tbh auto-resource creation ? | 17:51 |
vishwanathj | I need to add some additional text to the spec providing a brief about CPU pinning, Huge pages, NUMA topology that I will do mid this week... | 17:52 |
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vishwanathj | sridhar_ram, if we were to translate directly from the VNFD to heat resource, I am thinking if we need the dependency, but I still need to evaluate that though... | 17:53 |
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sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: okay.. please evaluation on that and advice | 17:53 |
sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: anything else ? | 17:53 |
vishwanathj | nothing more....looks like gongsyh could not make it as it is midnite there at this time | 17:54 |
sripriya_ | vishwanathj: sridhar_ram: tbh is handling auto resource creation only for flavor, network and images right? | 17:55 |
sridhar_ram | yeah, we need to discuss to make this alternative tz mtg... lets discuss in the midcycle | 17:55 |
sridhar_ram | sripriya_: yes | 17:55 |
vishwanathj | I tested flavor and image creation using heat resource and it turned out to be trivial... | 17:55 |
sripriya_ | i'm trying to understand the dependency here | 17:55 |
vishwanathj | but network creation could end up duplicating networks with same name and same subnet CIDR when done through Heat...looks like Neutron APIs allow creating duplicate networks with same subnet CIDR which I think is a bug | 17:56 |
sridhar_ram | sripriya_: the overarching dependency is VNF-placement (vish,yongsheng) --> auto-resource (tbh) --> tosca-parser (bobh). You are welcome to join this for your multi-site, but I'd advice against it. | 17:57 |
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sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: agree, in fact, overlapping subnet range shd error out as well.. | 17:58 |
sridhar_ram | folks - we are out of time | 17:58 |
sridhar_ram | lets continue the discussion in the specs... | 17:58 |
sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: thanks for the update... | 17:58 |
vishwanathj | you are welcome | 17:59 |
sridhar_ram | Overall nice progress in mitaka blueprints.. we are covering lot of ground.. | 17:59 |
sripriya_ | sridhar_ram: i politely decline, we dont want a cyclic dependency :-) | 17:59 |
sridhar_ram | reviewers, nfv architects here - please continue to help! | 17:59 |
sridhar_ram | sripriya_: wise choice! | 18:00 |
sridhar_ram | #topic Open Discussion | 18:00 |
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sridhar_ram | quick shout out to sripriya_: s3wong: bobh: for keeping the reviews and merges going during the holiday break! | 18:00 |
sridhar_ram | 16 patchsets merged over two week | 18:00 |
sridhar_ram | thanks folks! | 18:00 |
sridhar_ram | bye all | 18:01 |
LouisF | bye | 18:01 |
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sridhar_ram | #endmeeting | 18:01 |
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