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| gsagie | Hello all, anyone here for dragonflow meeting? :) | 08:54 |
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| diga | gsagie: Hi | 08:56 |
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| gsagie | hi diga | 08:56 |
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| gsagie | good to see you here | 08:57 |
| gsagie | hi kun_huang, gampel | 08:57 |
| diga | gsagie: NP | 08:57 |
| gampel | hi everyone | 08:57 |
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| kun_huang | o/ | 08:57 |
| gsagie | #startmeeting dragonflow | 08:58 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 4 08:58:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gsagie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:58 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 08:58 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 08:58 |
| gsagie | #info gampel, kun_huang, diga, yuli_s, gsagie in meeting | 08:58 |
| gsagie | #info Shlomo will not attend this meeting | 08:58 |
| gsagie | ok, lets start with the first topic | 08:59 |
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| gsagie | #topic security groups | 08:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "security groups (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 08:59 | |
| yuli_s | hello ! | 08:59 |
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| gsagie | hi yuli_s! | 08:59 |
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| gsagie | #info abaron and yuli_s in meeting :) | 08:59 |
| gsagie | #link security groups design https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261903/ | 09:00 |
| gsagie | dingoboopt: ping | 09:00 |
| dingboopt | pong | 09:00 |
| gsagie | dingboopt: would you please share your progress on security groups | 09:00 |
| dingboopt | I have reviewed the bp, and write some code about configuring DF | 09:01 |
| gsagie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262634/ | 09:01 |
| dingboopt | security group in DF DB | 09:01 |
| gsagie | yeah we will start reviewing this patch | 09:02 |
| gsagie | you need to fix some pep8 errors but looks good otherwise | 09:02 |
| dingboopt | yes, I will fix it as soon as possible | 09:02 |
| gsagie | Anyone has any comments/ideas about the security group impl design? because the next step would be to start implementing it | 09:02 |
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| gampel | looks good to me | 09:02 |
| gsagie | hi raofei! | 09:02 |
| raofei | hi gsagie | 09:03 |
| gsagie | ok, dingboopt i think the next step will be to read the security groups configuration in the controller and adds some logic that implements the configuration to flows | 09:03 |
| dingboopt | ok | 09:04 |
| gsagie | do you have any questions regarding that step? | 09:04 |
| dingboopt | currently no | 09:04 |
| gampel | gsagie: we all set on the second option ? | 09:04 |
| gsagie | #action dingboopt finish and merge security groups configuration from plugin | 09:04 |
| gsagie | #action dingboopt start reading sg configuration from the controller and sending to sg application | 09:04 |
| gsagie | gampel: i am, would like to hear other opinions | 09:05 |
| gsagie | but i think we can adjust the code between the two solutions very quickly anyway | 09:05 |
| gsagie | please everyone review the spec and see everything is ok | 09:06 |
| gsagie | anything else on this topic? | 09:06 |
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| raofei | except sg, do we need start other features concurrently | 09:06 |
| gsagie | raofei: we have some tasks yeah, are you available to take anything right now? | 09:07 |
| raofei | OK, review will be done ASAP. | 09:07 |
| gsagie | i will just get to it in next topic (blueprints) | 09:07 |
| gampel | distributed DNAT is up for taking | 09:07 |
| gsagie | lets move to this topic | 09:07 |
| gsagie | #topic blueprints | 09:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "blueprints (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:07 | |
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| gsagie | raofei: there is a distributed DNAT spec, would you like to start working on that? | 09:08 |
| gampel | link: https://github.com/openstack/dragonflow/blob/master/doc/source/specs/distributed_dnat.rst | 09:08 |
| gsagie | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/dragonflow/specs/distributed_dnat.html | 09:08 |
| gsagie | thanks gampel :) | 09:08 |
| gsagie | raofei: ? | 09:08 |
| gsagie | You can start the first part, of just translating the configuration from the neutron plugin to DF DB | 09:09 |
| gsagie | this will be a good rampup task | 09:09 |
| raofei | I'd like to do. but i'm not sure whether I can start it right now. I think I may lauch this task if the networking-sfc testing is done in this week | 09:09 |
| gsagie | ok, so lets talk later this week, i will optionally put this on you | 09:10 |
| raofei | ok. I will try to start it. | 09:10 |
| gsagie | #action raofei optionally start looking at distributed dnat task | 09:10 |
| gsagie | thanks raofei! greatly appreciated | 09:10 |
| raofei | my pleasure. | 09:11 |
| gsagie | ok, i have written a spec about MAC spoofing protection, its complimenting feature for security groups | 09:11 |
| gsagie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263019/ | 09:11 |
| gsagie | please all help to review the spec | 09:11 |
| gsagie | i also havent gotten to it yet but i am suppose to write a spec about publish-subscribe abstraction, as nick-ma asked for it | 09:12 |
| raofei | OK, it's quite similary with security group. | 09:13 |
| gsagie | gampel: maybe you can update us regarding that? | 09:13 |
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| gampel | yes we are trying to integrate nanomsg as the pub syb | 09:13 |
| gsagie | raofei: its implicitly implemented | 09:13 |
| gampel | it will allow use of the DB pub/sub or use the DF implementations | 09:14 |
| gsagie | #action gsagie write publish-subscriber abstraction spec | 09:14 |
| gampel | this will allow us to add this support to DB like Ram Cloud that do not support pub/sub | 09:14 |
| gampel | and will allow us to implement the Selective proactive in a very simple way | 09:15 |
| gsagie | thanks gampel | 09:15 |
| gsagie | i am also working on writing two more specs, one is for L2 ARP supression, currently we add ARP responders only for router ports there was a request to also add them for all ports | 09:16 |
| gsagie | going to be pretty straight forward | 09:16 |
| raofei | does dhcp spoofing will be done also under port security feature? | 09:16 |
| gsagie | raofei: currently all DHCP traffic for DHCP enabled networks is being directed to Dragonflow DHCP application, so we believe its safe for that case | 09:17 |
| raofei | will dhcp spoofing be done also under sg or ip/mac spoofing? | 09:17 |
| gsagie | raofei: do you have another use case when there is a problem? the only case i see is for networks with DHCP disabled and the user brings their own DHCP VM | 09:18 |
| gampel | raofei: the only way a DHCP traffic from a VM will go out is in DHCP disable networks | 09:19 |
| raofei | Yes, i think dhcp spoofing is done indirectly due to the DHCP application mechnisam. | 09:19 |
| gsagie | raofei: yeah, but let me know if you think about a problematic scenario, it should be done as part of the MAC spoofing spec | 09:20 |
| gampel | Yes when DHCP is disable we allow the user to implement it in a VM but we can add a configuration to allow or disallow this | 09:20 |
| gsagie | there are other blue prints that i am going to add specs too, will update in next meeting | 09:20 |
| gsagie | working on a mechanism to sync DB's between Neutron and DF | 09:21 |
| gsagie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263035/ | 09:21 |
| gsagie | that will help solve inconsistent states | 09:21 |
| gampel | this is a period task ? | 09:22 |
| gsagie | havent decided yet, we can have different configurations, lets discuss it over the spec once i write it | 09:22 |
| gampel | I think that we should look in the patch from Li MA as well the role back patch | 09:23 |
| gsagie | for example, one that is actually doing periodic sync, one that is only alerting of inconsistent and so on.. | 09:23 |
| gsagie | yeah | 09:23 |
| gsagie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262423/ | 09:23 |
| gsagie | gampel: this can also be used for cases like with RAMcloud after a restart.. | 09:24 |
| gampel | gsagie: good idea | 09:24 |
| gsagie | gampel: i also would like to start writing a plan for how to integrate selective proactive in steps, for example first step sync all but only send related information to applications | 09:25 |
| gsagie | and so on | 09:25 |
| gsagie | #action gsagie start writing a plan for selective proactive integration | 09:25 |
| gampel | we should think about it and make sure we have a plan for the DB inconsistent | 09:25 |
| gsagie | ok | 09:26 |
| gsagie | Can i put this on you for now? | 09:26 |
| gampel | yes | 09:26 |
| gampel | sure | 09:26 |
| gsagie | #action gampel have a plan for DB inconsistent problems between DF and Neutron | 09:26 |
| gsagie | ok, anyone has anything else regarding blueprints? | 09:26 |
| gampel | I think that we should move all the DB drivers in the new service | 09:27 |
| gsagie | gampel: DB topic is after.. | 09:27 |
| gsagie | #topic testing | 09:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "testing (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:27 | |
| gsagie | yuli_s: ping | 09:27 |
| gsagie | yuli_s: would you please share with us your progress regarding fullstack tests ? | 09:28 |
| yuli_s | Yes | 09:29 |
| yuli_s | Sure | 09:29 |
| yuli_s | I found a solution for sequential tests | 09:29 |
| yuli_s | to fix the raise conditions I have while running tests | 09:30 |
| gsagie | you added port creation/deletion tests as i saw | 09:30 |
| gsagie | ok, good job | 09:30 |
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| gsagie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263042/ yuli_s fullstack patch | 09:30 |
| yuli_s | i am going to comment out new tests for now and revert them later as you sugested privately | 09:31 |
| gsagie | for next meeting you moving to flow tests and update right? | 09:31 |
| gsagie | okie | 09:31 |
| yuli_s | Yes, | 09:31 |
| gsagie | #action yuli_s work on update fullstack tests | 09:31 |
| gsagie | #action yuli_s work on OVS flows related tests | 09:31 |
| gsagie | basically yuli is adding fullstack tests that will check that we configure the correct OVS flows for various different scenarios | 09:32 |
| gsagie | i would also like to refactor the base test class, so we can have few files for different tests and not everything in the same class, so the base one will have the clients (neutron, DF DB) and then every test class will inherit from uit | 09:32 |
| gsagie | #action gsagie refactor fullstack test class | 09:33 |
| gsagie | for the unit tests, we have encounter a small problem as OVS python binding dont yet have python3 support so our unit tests keeps failing in the gate | 09:33 |
| gsagie | i have added patch to solve it in the meantime | 09:33 |
| gsagie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262981/ remove python3 gate tests | 09:34 |
| gsagie | i know that russellb is working on making OVS package work with Python3, so we should have solution quickly and i will start adding unit tests examples | 09:34 |
| gsagie | diga: are you interested to work on that as well? | 09:34 |
| gsagie | kun_huang: ping | 09:35 |
| gsagie | diga: ping | 09:35 |
| gsagie | #action gsagie add unit tests examples once python3 job is fixed | 09:36 |
| kun_huang | gsagie: not yet, I'm trying to supply HWs ASAP | 09:36 |
| kun_huang | btw nick-ma has a fever these days, he is in hospital now... | 09:36 |
| gsagie | kun_huang: ok, we are also working here to create performance tests enviorments so we can debug L3 east-west performance and data path performance | 09:36 |
| diga | gsagie: hi | 09:37 |
| gsagie | kun_huang: ohh sorry to hear that :( please send him our regards and hope he feels better soon | 09:37 |
| diga | yes | 09:37 |
| gampel | kun_huang: I am sorry to hear , yes please send mine as well | 09:37 |
| kun_huang | no problem | 09:37 |
| gsagie | #info warm regards to nick-ma and hope he feels better soon :) | 09:37 |
| gsagie | kun_huang: thanks, Shlomo from our team is going to start working on the setup from our end, i will connect the two of you so you could share information | 09:38 |
| gsagie | i have found Rally are doing some work in order to support benchmarking same as VMTP/Shaker projects. | 09:38 |
| gsagie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/rally+branch:master+topic:bp/vm-workloads-framework | 09:39 |
| gsagie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254851/6 | 09:39 |
| gsagie | maybe will be good to look at them | 09:39 |
| gsagie | as well | 09:39 |
| gsagie | for automating the tests | 09:39 |
| kun_huang | I know that work | 09:39 |
| gsagie | cool :) | 09:39 |
| kun_huang | anyway, let's build the setup first | 09:39 |
| gsagie | #info kun_huang waiting for HW for scale testing | 09:40 |
| gsagie | kun_huang: we also could use any help you can provide with performance testing that is not related to scale, like L3 in 1-2 compute nodes, do you have any experience with Shaker/VMTP or any other automated tests written that you can share? | 09:40 |
| kun_huang | I have built VMTP inside FusionNetwork | 09:41 |
| kun_huang | as daily test in our CI | 09:41 |
| gsagie | kun_huang: cool, thats is very use full, i will tell Shlomo to sync with you regarding that, i think we need something like that for Dragonflow as well | 09:42 |
| gsagie | #action gsagie, Shlomo sync with kun_huang regarding daily VMTP CI tests for Dragonflow | 09:42 |
| gsagie | anything else for testing? gampel? | 09:42 |
| gampel | no | 09:43 |
| gsagie | ok | 09:43 |
| gsagie | #topic DB | 09:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "DB (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:43 | |
| gsagie | We are planning to merge RethinkDB, gampel will work on fixing any final things that needs to be addressed | 09:44 |
| gsagie | gampel: right? | 09:44 |
| gampel | will do yes | 09:44 |
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| gampel | I think that we should move all the DBs drivers into a service configuration | 09:45 |
| gsagie | ok, thanks, sorry for the rush but we running out of time :) | 09:45 |
| gampel | like we did for etcd | 09:45 |
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| gsagie | #action move all DBs installtions into services similar to what we did with etcd | 09:45 |
| gsagie | #action gampel merge and fix final things with RethinkDB | 09:45 |
| gsagie | nick-ma is not here, but he is working on ZooKeeper integration, he will update us next meeting | 09:46 |
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| gsagie | #info nick-ma update next meeting regarding zookeeper integration | 09:46 |
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| gsagie | We should review the patch for cluster configuration | 09:46 |
| gsagie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261731/ | 09:46 |
| gampel | gsagie: Ok will do | 09:46 |
| gsagie | gampel: you did :) i have too | 09:47 |
| gsagie | just noticed | 09:47 |
| gsagie | diga, can i assign a task for you to start looking at unit tests? | 09:47 |
| gsagie | you told me you want to take it | 09:47 |
| diga_ | yes | 09:47 |
| gampel | wait i will rebase it today today | 09:47 |
| gsagie | #action diga start working on unit tests for the controller | 09:47 |
| gsagie | diga_ : i started to create the needed things for it, look at this patch: | 09:48 |
| diga_ | gsagie: okay | 09:48 |
| gsagie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262796/ | 09:48 |
| gsagie | still need to wait for the infrastructure to remove python3 jobs, hopefully today or tommorow | 09:48 |
| gsagie | from the gate | 09:48 |
| gsagie | #topic bugs | 09:48 |
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| gsagie | i forgot also, i havent looked yet but needs to look at tempest failing tests, maybe i will start converting them to bugs | 09:49 |
| gsagie | #action gsagie look at failing tempest tests and convert them to bugs | 09:49 |
| gsagie | we should probably give more time for talking about bugs next meeting and going over all the open bugs | 09:49 |
| gsagie | anyone has any notable bugs? | 09:49 |
| gsagie | kexiaodong: ping | 09:50 |
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| gsagie | ok | 09:51 |
| gsagie | #topic open discussion | 09:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:51 | |
| gsagie | Happy new year everyone :) | 09:51 |
| gampel | Happy new year | 09:51 |
| gsagie | and thanks for attending the meeting and all your help | 09:51 |
| yuli_s | Happy new Yes | 09:51 |
| gsagie | if anyone has anything else please let us know | 09:51 |
| yuli_s | hm | 09:51 |
| gsagie | gampel: next week we going to have the meeting? | 09:51 |
| diga_ | Happy New Year to you all | 09:51 |
| kun_huang | gsagie, gampel what's your schedule of coming China? | 09:52 |
| yuli_s | i think we need to think again about running tests sequentially | 09:52 |
| gampel | not sure i think that we should postponed the next meeting | 09:52 |
| yuli_s | i just commited a fix to the bug | 09:52 |
| gsagie | yuli_s : ok, lets continue to talk about it in #openstack-dragonflow, but i agree its something we need to consider | 09:52 |
| yuli_s | ok, great | 09:52 |
| gsagie | kun_huang: we come next week | 09:52 |
| gsagie | kun_huang: you located in hangzhou? | 09:53 |
| kun_huang | yep | 09:53 |
| gampel | kun_huang: see you next week | 09:53 |
| gsagie | ok cool, we will meet then face to face :) | 09:53 |
| kun_huang | what's your arrived date on hangzhou? | 09:53 |
| kun_huang | I could make a meetup for us | 09:53 |
| gsagie | #info next week meeting is canceled, we will continue week after | 09:53 |
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| kun_huang | there are some other openstack guys | 09:53 |
| gampel | on the 10th | 09:53 |
| gsagie | kun_huang: 12/1 | 09:53 |
| gampel | 11th sorry | 09:54 |
| gsagie | ohh yeah sorry 11th | 09:54 |
| kun_huang | arrive at 11th? | 09:54 |
| gsagie | ok everyone thanks for attending the meeting! and see you in two weeks (next week meeting is canceled) | 09:54 |
| gsagie | #endmeeting | 09:54 |
| gampel | sue it will be great to do a meet up | 09:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 4 09:54:43 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-01-04-08.58.html | 09:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-01-04-08.58.txt | 09:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-01-04-08.58.log.html | 09:54 |
| gsagie | kun_huang: yeah on the 11th, will be great to meet :) | 09:55 |
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| gsagie | Hello everyone coming for Kuryr meeting :) | 14:51 |
| gsagie | irenab: apuimedo is still on vacation? | 14:51 |
| irenab | I am not sure, but probably yes | 14:51 |
| irenab | gsagie: I will be able to attend only for first 30 mins | 14:52 |
| gsagie | irenab: np, i have a feeling we will finish in 30 :) | 14:52 |
| irenab | gsagie: if possible, lets start with kubernetes discussion | 14:52 |
| gsagie | Taku is on vacation as well right? | 14:52 |
| gsagie | yeah, its #1 on the agenda | 14:52 |
| irenab | gsagie: yes | 14:52 |
| gsagie | lets wait 5 more minutes for the official time | 14:52 |
| fawadkhaliq | yup yup! | 14:53 |
| vikasc | o/ | 14:53 |
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| gsagie | hi banix, vikasc, fawadkhaliq, irenab! | 14:56 |
| irenab | hi | 14:56 |
| fawadkhaliq | hi everyone! | 14:57 |
| fawadkhaliq | happy new year! | 14:57 |
| vikasc | vikasc, Hi Gal!!! | 14:57 |
| vikasc | Happy New Year everyone :) | 14:57 |
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| gsagie | ok, lets start the meeting | 15:00 |
| gsagie | #startmeeting kuryr | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 4 15:00:28 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gsagie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 15:00 |
| gsagie | #info irenab, vikasc, fawadkhaliq, banix, gsagie in meeting | 15:00 |
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| gsagie | #info apuimedo, tfukushima are on vacations | 15:01 |
| gsagie | #topic kubernetes integration | 15:01 |
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| gsagie | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kuryr_k8s | 15:01 |
| gsagie | irenab: want to update on this? | 15:01 |
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| irenab | I will try to sum-up what we have | 15:01 |
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| gsagie | banix: i believe you have more experience on this issue as well, we should use your experience on this subject :) | 15:02 |
| gsagie | hi devvesa! welcome | 15:02 |
| devvesa | gsagie: o/ | 15:02 |
| gsagie | #info devvesa in meeting as well :) | 15:02 |
| irenab | One of the missions for the Mitaka release is to provide kuryr - Kubernetes integration | 15:02 |
| irenab | We started to put ideas on the etherpad ^^ | 15:03 |
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| irenab | We should decide on the approach to take here if its another disctinct integration via network plugin or CNI driver | 15:04 |
| devvesa | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kuryr_k8s | 15:04 |
| gsagie | One of the ideas irenab brought up and i wrote it there, is that we need to think about ways to expose the extra features Neutron provide to the users, so they could use for example Kubernetes anootation to configure security groups and so on.. | 15:04 |
| irenab | gsagie: I think before extra features, we need to define the integration model | 15:04 |
| irenab | Looks like libnetwork reuse is not applicable at this phase | 15:05 |
| gsagie | irenab: agreed, i believe the only option right now is Kubernetes network plugin | 15:05 |
| gsagie | irenab: yes, until Kubernetes will support it | 15:05 |
| gsagie | banix: any ideas on this subject? | 15:06 |
| gsagie | or anyone else of course :) | 15:06 |
| irenab | there is a network plugin that is actually CNI Driver that invokes CNI plugins, I am in favor to explore this option | 15:06 |
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| banix | sorry was away | 15:06 |
| gsagie | np | 15:06 |
| banix | yes have been following up our options with k8s | 15:07 |
| banix | it seems they have a different network model in mind that may want to build on | 15:07 |
| banix | I will know more by next week and can report back with a better understanding | 15:07 |
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| irenab | So we need 1. Integration approach. 2. Data Model mapping from k8s to neutron 3. Extra features (mainly security) | 15:07 |
| irenab | banix: can you please elaborate? | 15:08 |
| irenab | on they have different approach in mind | 15:08 |
| banix | yes, the integration through a plugin is the available option right now | 15:09 |
| banix | there are discussions about how to map/integrate CNI and CNM | 15:09 |
| banix | former from k8 and later from libnetwork | 15:09 |
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| banix | i haven’t followed the latest discussions in the last two weeks | 15:10 |
| irenab | banix:discussions on kubernetes-sig-network ? | 15:10 |
| banix | yes | 15:10 |
| gsagie | irenab, banix: any chance we can put this task on any of you two to write a short spec for this? or is taku also working on that? | 15:11 |
| irenab | gsagie: I will start this asap | 15:11 |
| banix | gsagie: yes sure; will talk to irenab | 15:11 |
| gsagie | #action irenab, banix start writing a spec for kubernetes integration in terms of 1. Integration approach. 2. Data Model mapping from k8s to neutron 3. Extra features (mainly security) | 15:11 |
| irenab | banix: great! Will be happy to collaborate on this | 15:11 |
| gsagie | irenab, banix: thanks! | 15:12 |
| gsagie | we all should read more and be ready to discuss more concrete details next week | 15:12 |
| vikasc | +1 gsagie | 15:12 |
| gsagie | i would like us to also try to talk with deployers and understand missing use cases for networking features when deploying with Kubernetes | 15:12 |
| gsagie | i have some team i can check internally | 15:12 |
| irenab | gsagie: I beleive it both deployers and cluster admins | 15:13 |
| gsagie | #action gsagie understand use cases for deploying Kubernetes and update the etherpad | 15:13 |
| gsagie | irenab: yep | 15:13 |
| irenab | if you can collect data from both, will be great | 15:13 |
| gsagie | irenab: yeah i have some people that i can talk with, but would appreciate any more feedback | 15:13 |
| irenab | I can provide useful link of use cases shared in the kubernetes-sig-networking team | 15:14 |
| gsagie | irenab: that would be great! | 15:14 |
| gsagie | #action irenab provide useful link of use cases shared in the kubernetes-sig-networking team | 15:14 |
| irenab | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZCz_MZILzKCbFwF9gjU1YNA1YbNaw0NDsESh1P6Vcnc/edit | 15:14 |
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| gsagie | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZCz_MZILzKCbFwF9gjU1YNA1YbNaw0NDsESh1P6Vcnc/edit | 15:14 |
| gsagie | so anything else for Kubernetes ? i think Taku will also join you and banix as he also investigated these areas | 15:15 |
| gsagie | and we should be smarter next meeting hopefully | 15:15 |
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| banix | sounds good | 15:15 |
| irenab | gsagie: banix : I think we should have initial spec up to next meeting | 15:15 |
| gsagie | #topic vif binding | 15:16 |
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| gsagie | banix, i see you have an action item for linux bridge binding | 15:16 |
| banix | gsagie: I will get to it. Have been off the grid for last two weeks | 15:17 |
| gsagie | i dont think its any urgent task, but was wondering if you have any update | 15:17 |
| gsagie | banix: np, understandable :) | 15:17 |
| banix | one thing that worries me is the cost in terms of latency | 15:17 |
| gsagie | what do you mean cost? | 15:17 |
| banix | using an executable; I think eventually, sooner rather than later we need to load modules for drivers, etc | 15:17 |
| banix | gsagie: i mean specially for ovs with sec groups, there are many commands to be executed | 15:18 |
| gsagie | banix: i agree, executable doesnt scale and there are already examples for that with security groups iptables CLI ;) | 15:18 |
| banix | with sudo, etc | 15:18 |
| gsagie | heh yeah | 15:18 |
| banix | so i have that in my list of todos | 15:19 |
| gsagie | #action banix to investigate linux bridge binding and alternatives to using an executable scripts for binding | 15:19 |
| gsagie | banix: ok sounds good | 15:19 |
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| gsagie | banix: the OVS unbind part was merged while in holiday, seems ok to me but i would verify when you have time that everything works for you too | 15:20 |
| banix | yes noticed that. will do. | 15:20 |
| gsagie | ok, thanks | 15:20 |
| gsagie | #topic IPAM | 15:20 |
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| gsagie | vikasc: any update for this? | 15:21 |
| vikasc | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256211/ | 15:21 |
| vikasc | i addressed banix comments on this patch | 15:21 |
| gsagie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256211/ | 15:21 |
| gsagie | okie, will review it probably tommorow | 15:21 |
| gsagie | vikasc: there is also updating the devref with the implementation details | 15:22 |
| vikasc | thanks.. i am spending time understanding kubernetes networking model | 15:22 |
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| vikasc | yes | 15:22 |
| vikasc | last week i was on vacation | 15:22 |
| gsagie | just to document things better, i will add fullstack tests for it, unless you want to do it as well | 15:22 |
| gsagie | np | 15:22 |
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| gsagie | was quite 2 weeks with out all of you here :) | 15:22 |
| gsagie | #action vikasc update devref for IPAM | 15:23 |
| gsagie | #action gsagie add fullstack tests for IPAM | 15:23 |
| vikasc | sounds good | 15:23 |
| gsagie | #topic packaging | 15:23 |
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| gsagie | devvesa: any update on that? | 15:23 |
| devvesa | No. I didn't get any feedback | 15:24 |
| devvesa | I'll try to push this week | 15:24 |
| gsagie | devvesa: is there anything i can help with? | 15:24 |
| devvesa | and test it better | 15:24 |
| gsagie | okie, sounds good | 15:24 |
| devvesa | Not now. If I have any question about the service/configuration for packaging, I'll ask in the mailing list or IRC | 15:24 |
| devvesa | :) | 15:25 |
| gsagie | okie great | 15:25 |
| gsagie | ihar from neutron might be able to help with that | 15:25 |
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| gsagie | #action devvesa continue with packaging task and testing | 15:25 |
| gsagie | #topic capabilities | 15:26 |
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| gsagie | Toni is not here, so i guess no update on that, | 15:26 |
| gsagie | #action gsagie check capabilities progress with apuimedo | 15:26 |
| gsagie | #topic docker swarm | 15:26 |
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| gsagie | banix: i see from 2 meetings ago that you conducted a demo with Kuryr and Docker Swarm anything available? | 15:27 |
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| gsagie | will be cool to post it to the mailing list | 15:27 |
| banix | gsagie: will do; don’t have a recorded demo but will do it | 15:28 |
| banix | gsagie: to be more accurate i have recorded a simple demo but will try to make a cleaner and better one in a day or two and post | 15:28 |
| gsagie | cool, that will be awesome, let me know when you do | 15:28 |
| gsagie | we should link to it for people to see :) | 15:29 |
| banix | yes will do | 15:29 |
| gsagie | #action banix publish a recorded demo of docker swarm with Kuryr | 15:29 |
| gsagie | thanks! | 15:29 |
| banix | np | 15:29 |
| gsagie | #topic testing | 15:29 |
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| gsagie | ok, so regarding testing i would like to ask your premission to merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259744/ , apuimedo has -1 on it but he is on long time off | 15:30 |
| gsagie | and already approved to merge it in temporary | 15:30 |
| gsagie | its blocking the fullstack tests progress | 15:30 |
| gsagie | I already have a bug assigned to solve this issue and an idea how to do it but want it to happen in parallel | 15:30 |
| banix | gsagie: go for it | 15:31 |
| gsagie | banix: great | 15:31 |
| gsagie | #action gsagie continue on fullstack tests and solve the neutron credential problem in the gate | 15:31 |
| gsagie | banix: Baohua is from your team? | 15:32 |
| banix | gsagie: yes | 15:32 |
| gsagie | i guess he was on vacation as well since i havent seen him and i think you said he wants to join the testing efforts | 15:32 |
| gsagie | last meeting i directed him to my patches | 15:32 |
| gsagie | i will try to sync with him tommorow | 15:33 |
| banix | gsagie: yes, i will follow up with him too | 15:33 |
| gsagie | #action gsagie sync with Baohua regarding testing | 15:33 |
| gsagie | #action gsagie add Rally docker plugin | 15:33 |
| gsagie | Another thing i wanted to ask you guys, i want to start adding Docker plugin for Rally, do we want to do this as part of Kuryr, or add this directly to Rally? | 15:34 |
| gsagie | and only use it from Kuryr | 15:34 |
| fawadkhaliq | gsagie: adding in Kuryr should be okay and can be managed well. | 15:34 |
| gsagie | wanted to ask everyone before sending the question to the list, the rally team said we can go either way where they prefer to have it in the rally repository | 15:34 |
| gsagie | fawadkhaliq: yeah i agree | 15:35 |
| banix | don’t know I am afraid | 15:35 |
| gsagie | i think i will also email to the list, so we do this process in the open and get more opinions | 15:35 |
| fawadkhaliq | unless there is an added benefit of keeping in the Rally repo, which I can't think of right now. | 15:36 |
| fawadkhaliq | cool. makes sense | 15:36 |
| gsagie | fawadkhaliq: the only benefit is that we will have the rally team review it more closely | 15:36 |
| gsagie | atleast thats what i can think of | 15:36 |
| fawadkhaliq | reviews are significant :-) | 15:36 |
| fawadkhaliq | we can consider it. | 15:37 |
| gsagie | okie, will send to the list and we take it from there :) | 15:37 |
| fawadkhaliq | sounds great! | 15:37 |
| gsagie | i still havent got to the magnum integration for nested containers | 15:37 |
| gsagie | #action gsaguie magnum integration and nested containers design | 15:37 |
| gsagie | #action gsagie magnum integration and nested containers design | 15:37 |
| fawadkhaliq | on nested containers | 15:37 |
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| fawadkhaliq | Toni gave me an action item 2 weeks ago and we were heading into the holidays | 15:38 |
| fawadkhaliq | I will take a stab at writing a spec and we can iterate over it. | 15:38 |
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| gsagie | which one? | 15:38 |
| gsagie | okie great! thanks for that | 15:38 |
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| gsagie | #action fawadkhaliq propose a spec for magnum integration and nested containers | 15:39 |
| fawadkhaliq | I will reach out for discussions :-) | 15:39 |
| gsagie | fawadkhaliq: important to think how we expose all the possible models to the user , for example OVS in the VM, IPVLAN usage with eBPF like you guys did and so on | 15:39 |
| fawadkhaliq | absolutely | 15:40 |
| gsagie | and another point that came up, is how to model the Kuryr service and where, there were questions about how it can reach Neutron API from inside the VM | 15:40 |
| gsagie | and points like these.. just bringing them up :) | 15:40 |
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| gsagie | ok, feel free to discuss about that if you have any questions | 15:41 |
| fawadkhaliq | yup, thanks! will cater for them and definitely, will discuss over #kuryr | 15:41 |
| gsagie | okie | 15:41 |
| gsagie | #topic open discussion | 15:41 |
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| gsagie | Thanks everyone for joining the first meeting of the new year :) | 15:41 |
| gsagie | and welcome back everyone that had a good vacation, hope you had fun and managed to get some rest :) | 15:42 |
| gsagie | and good to see you all again! | 15:42 |
| banix | thank you! | 15:42 |
| fawadkhaliq | thanks and likewise! | 15:42 |
| gsagie | okie, good day everyone! bye | 15:43 |
| gsagie | #endmeeting | 15:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 4 15:43:12 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-01-04-15.00.html | 15:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-01-04-15.00.txt | 15:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-01-04-15.00.log.html | 15:43 |
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| Sukhdev | Hi folks time for Ironic-neutron meeting | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting ironic_neutron | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 4 16:01:21 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_neutron' | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | Good morning folks - | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | who is here to attend the ironic-neutron meeting? | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | jroll : are you here? | 16:02 |
| jroll | \o | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | lazy_prince, vsaienko ? | 16:02 |
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| vsaienko | hello to all | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_January_4.2C_2016 | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | Happy New Year to everybody | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | hope everybody had a relaxing holidays!! | 16:03 |
| vdrok | o/ happy new year! | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | I was trying to catch up on the action I missed in last two weeks - | 16:04 |
| lazy_prince | 0/ | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince : hi | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Patches under review | 16:05 |
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| vsaienko | lazy_prince: hi | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-neutron-mid-cycle | 16:05 |
| * jroll wonders if devananda is around | 16:06 | |
| Sukhdev | I noticed there were bunch of updates to the patches - which is excellent | 16:06 |
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| lazy_prince | yup.. Thanks to vsaienko | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | and lots of review comments as well | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | yes noticed that vsaienko has been busy :-) | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | vsaienko : are we ready to ship :-) | 16:08 |
| vsaienko | yep | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | vsaienko : perhaps you can give us an update and bring everybody to speed | 16:08 |
| lazy_prince | that would be helpful assuming I missed couple of meetings.. | 16:08 |
| vsaienko | I've rebased patches and resolved comments | 16:09 |
| lazy_prince | is there anything left for me to work on.. :) | 16:09 |
| vsaienko | I test all of them together, guide is on review also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258596/7/doc/source/dev/ironic-neutron-integration.rst | 16:09 |
| jroll | deva also mentioned he was able to test, mostly successfully | 16:10 |
| vsaienko | I would be perfect if any body else also test them and provide feedback | 16:10 |
| jroll | he found it wasn't isolating between two tenants, but it looks like the devstack stuff isn't intended to do so? | 16:10 |
| vsaienko | jroll: it should | 16:11 |
| lazy_prince | if tags are applied properly, they should be isolated.. | 16:12 |
| jroll | vsaienko: maybe it was because the default is a provider network | 16:12 |
| vsaienko | from Newtron side each network in the tenant has unique VLAN | 16:12 |
| jroll | I'd have to look back at irc logs | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | jroll : based upon the devstack patches, it should have | 16:12 |
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| vsaienko | ah, yes, I've missed part that configured network_provider in Ironic | 16:12 |
| vsaienko | but already fixed it in last patchset, thanks vdrok! | 16:13 |
| jroll | hrm, he said it isolated control plane okay | 16:13 |
| jroll | anyway, not much use dwelling on that now | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | vsaienko : the list of patches on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-neutron-mid-cycle is up-to-date, right? | 16:14 |
| vsaienko | sukhdev: looks like yes | 16:15 |
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| Sukhdev | vsaienko : before I went on PTO, there was an issue with the devstack patches, which needed to be pushed again - wonder if those are listed correctly | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | I have not had time to verify recently | 16:15 |
| devananda | o/ | 16:16 |
| jroll | they look right, Sukhdev | 16:16 |
| vsaienko | hello devananda | 16:16 |
| jroll | hai devananda :) | 16:16 |
| devananda | Sukhdev, jroll: I tested the devstack support for that patch chain last week and confirmed it works | 16:16 |
| devananda | nodes are moved between the provisioning provider network and the tenant network, etc, as expected | 16:16 |
| jroll | \o/ | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | devananda : Wow!! cool - thanks | 16:16 |
| devananda | however I had difficulty creating >1 tenant network and separating traffic from tenant A and tenant B | 16:16 |
| devananda | I suspect I was doing something wrong with regards to creating the neutron networks | 16:17 |
| Sukhdev | devananda : oh I see - | 16:17 |
| devananda | I started reviewing the patch chain over the weekend, but haven't gotten too far. at this point, it will be mostly nitpicks -- little things in the db code that I would like to see improved, etc | 16:17 |
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| Sukhdev | devananda : I wonder how you were creating neutron networks? | 16:18 |
| devananda | as tenant A: neutron net-create; neutron subnet-create; nova boot ... --nic net=aaaa; | 16:19 |
| devananda | so neutron assigned an IP from that range to the instance, but there wasn't actually an OVS network on the host that matched / routed to it | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | devananda : as an admin, when you create a network, you can specify which tenant it is for, etc.. | 16:19 |
| devananda | Sukhdev: does the admin need to create a network for each tenant (eg, when creating the tenant) ? | 16:19 |
| vsaienko | devananda: but there wasn't actually an OVS network on the host that matched / routed to it what do you mean/ | 16:20 |
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| devananda | vsaienko: yes | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | devananda : I believe so.. | 16:21 |
| devananda | first off, I created two tenants, did not define any networks for them, and just booted two servers. Neutron assigned a private IP to each one -- on the same subnet | 16:22 |
| devananda | and I was able to route traffic between them | 16:22 |
| devananda | so while provisioning network was not visible to tenants, they were visible to each other | 16:22 |
| devananda | then, as each tenant (not the admin), I issued "neutron net-create ...; neutron subnet-create ...;" commands with non-overlapping IP ranges | 16:23 |
| devananda | and booted a server on that network | 16:23 |
| devananda | neutron assigned an IP from the new subnet range, but it was inaccessible. | 16:24 |
| vsaienko | devananda: did you checked that VLAN ID has been changed in OVS with ovs-vsctl show? | 16:24 |
| devananda | vsaienko: I did not see any new networks on the host | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev | devananda : your sequence of steps seems right | 16:25 |
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| vsaienko | devananda: that is trange, since once you create new neutron network, neutron should create new IP namespace for it | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | only difference is that I would create a networks from admin context and specify the tenant for these networks and then create subnets from the tenant's context | 16:26 |
| vsaienko | *strange | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | but, your sequence should work as well | 16:27 |
| devananda | Sukhdev: if this were hardware switches instead of OVS, in a real deployment, would the non-admin tenant be able to create a neutron network? | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev | devananda : yes | 16:27 |
| vsaienko | devananda: it should | 16:27 |
| devananda | hmm ... | 16:28 |
| vsaienko | neutron should call create_network() from ML2 driver and it will do all the rest | 16:28 |
| vsaienko | I mean ML2 should create missing VLANs on the switches | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev | devananda : I think you are doing everything correct | 16:28 |
| devananda | I see | 16:29 |
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| devananda | that's good - but then I don't know why it didn't work locally | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | devananda : we need to triage a bit to dig deep - as vsaienko pointed, we need to check if correct vlan ID are being used | 16:29 |
| devananda | I don't know if I'll have time to rebuild that env today, but I'll try to help as much as I can | 16:30 |
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| Sukhdev | devananda : are you using HW switches or OVS ? | 16:30 |
| devananda | OVS | 16:30 |
| devananda | I don't have that kind of fancy hardware at home ;) | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | devananda : in that case, I think OVS plumbing may be missing something - | 16:31 |
| Sukhdev | ovs-vsctl show output will be helpful | 16:31 |
| vsaienko | devananda: if you still have environment, I'm ready to debug issues with you | 16:31 |
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| devananda | vsaienko: I do not | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev | I will set up the test setup this week and play with it as well - and will ping you guys with the feedback | 16:33 |
| Sukhdev | vsaienko : did you test the same way as devananda is trying to do? | 16:33 |
| vsaienko | yes | 16:33 |
| Sukhdev | hmmm... | 16:33 |
| Sukhdev | OK - lets try to reproduce it then....I will get on it this week as well | 16:34 |
| devananda | Sukhdev: what I want to get as output of this test is confirmation of isolation between tenants | 16:34 |
| vsaienko | I will triple check all | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev | devananda : understood - and, actually, that leads me to the next topic on agenda | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | Is Yuri here? | 16:35 |
| vsaienko | sukhdev: he is on PTO this week | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | he was writing a tempest scenario test to test exactly the same thing | 16:36 |
| devananda | \o/ | 16:36 |
| vsaienko | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258934/ | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | devananda : see here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1520230 | 16:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1520230 in tempest "Test Case: Create a test scenario to verify that Ironic supports multitenancy" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Yuriy Yekovenko (yyekovenko) | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | vsaienko : do you know if he was able to test this patch? | 16:37 |
| devananda | jroll: aren't we moving tempest scenario tests into ironic's tree soon? | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258934/ | 16:38 |
| vsaienko | as far I know he is still working on that patch | 16:38 |
| jroll | devananda: that's a goal, yes | 16:38 |
| devananda | yea, found it | 16:39 |
| devananda | vsaienko: he may want to rebase on top of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253982/ or something | 16:39 |
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| vsaienko | devananda, I will ping him about it | 16:40 |
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| jroll | devananda: I'm curious what other work is needed there, but probably a good idea | 16:41 |
| Sukhdev | Looks like this test will be very helpful in testing this scenario | 16:41 |
| devananda | jroll: I think we were bike shedding on the folder name | 16:41 |
| jroll | devananda: oh good | 16:41 |
| jroll | devananda: I meant in project-config and such though :) | 16:41 |
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| devananda | yep. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246161/7 | 16:41 |
| devananda | jroll: oh. that I'm not sure about | 16:42 |
| jroll | devananda: yeah, it's fine though | 16:42 |
| devananda | i'm not saying we shouldn't land the multitenancy testing in tempest - just making sure folks are aware of the move to tempest-lib | 16:43 |
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| Sukhdev | I am hoping Yuriy is aware of this tempest-lib stuff | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev | it has been a long time since I touched tempest stuff - I am not up-to-date in that regard :-):-0 | 16:46 |
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| Sukhdev | For now, as long as we can test multi-tenancy manually, we should be good | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else to discuss on this topic? | 16:47 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Integration Status | 16:47 |
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| Sukhdev | We have mostly covered the integration status already, but, I wanted to specifically talk about item 7 on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-neutron-mid-cycle | 16:48 |
| Sukhdev | This is based upon two week old information - perhaps this has been addressed while I was gone | 16:49 |
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| Sukhdev | any update on this? | 16:49 |
| jroll | that patch still needs a major update | 16:49 |
| jroll | it's on my todo list, apologies for not getting to it | 16:49 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: this will impact the portgroups, which no body is testing as of now | 16:50 |
| lazy_prince | i am sorry.. which item 7.. under issues o rpatches..? | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince : yes | 16:50 |
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| jroll | Sukhdev: yes I know | 16:51 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince : issues | 16:51 |
| lazy_prince | aha.. okay.. | 16:51 |
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| vsaienko | folks, at the moment we don't test portgroups at all, OVS allows to create portchannels with LACP I think we should try to cover portgroups with OVS also | 16:51 |
| Sukhdev | OK - I was just making sure that I am up-to-date on this status | 16:51 |
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| lazy_prince | vsaienko: ironic code is not upto date with portgroups yet.. we will have to wait for that... | 16:52 |
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| Sukhdev | The question for the team is - should we consider merging the patches for M2 (mid Jan)? | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | and do the portgroups after that for M3? | 16:54 |
| lazy_prince | where are we with nova patches...? | 16:54 |
| jroll | we should merge all the things as soon as they're ready :P | 16:54 |
| jroll | lazy_prince: 2 patches, one has a +2, the other is the portgroups thing that needs a major update | 16:54 |
| lazy_prince | before we merge, we need to be ready from nova side too.. | 16:54 |
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| lazy_prince | cool.. | 16:55 |
| Sukhdev | update on etherpad is two weeks old - but, one of the patches was merged back then | 16:55 |
| vsaienko | I'm asking to review devstack related patches so we have consensus on global variables names and can proceed with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252814/ | 16:55 |
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| jroll | vsaienko: will do | 16:56 |
| vsaienko | jroll: thanks~ | 16:56 |
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| * Sukhdev time check - 4 min left | 16:56 | |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince : have you had a chance to test the devstack patches? | 16:57 |
| devananda | Sukhdev: I only saw one devstack patch when I was testing last week? | 16:57 |
| lazy_prince | hmm... was busy all this time but free from now on.. I will test and update... | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev | devananda : I try to keep the list of all patches on - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-neutron-mid-cycle | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev | hence, I was asking earlier in the meeting to make sure the team updates this etherpad - | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev | this keeps things simple to track | 16:59 |
| devananda | ah, thx | 16:59 |
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| jroll | devananda: there's a bunch in the chain | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | Lets all try to review devstack patches this week | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | We are out of time - folks | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | thanks for attending - this was great discusion | 17:00 |
| krotscheck | o/ | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 4 17:00:39 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-01-04-16.01.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-01-04-16.01.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-01-04-16.01.log.html | 17:00 |
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| Sukhdev | Now is the time for L2 GW meeting | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | anybody here for L2GW meeting? | 17:01 |
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| oferby | I'm here | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_l2gw | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 4 17:02:10 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_l2gw' | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 17:02 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/L2Gateway#Meeting_January_4.2C_2016 | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | Hi oferby | 17:02 |
| oferby | hi | 17:03 |
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| Sukhdev | I guess it is you and me today | 17:03 |
| oferby | as it was last time .... | 17:03 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 17:03 |
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| Sukhdev | Happy new yeat | 17:03 |
| Sukhdev | year | 17:04 |
| ChuckC | o/ | 17:04 |
| oferby | HNY to you too | 17:04 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Patches under review | 17:05 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/networking-l2gw,n,z | 17:05 |
| Sukhdev | I was gone for two and half weeks | 17:05 |
| Sukhdev | I approved some of the patches last night and noticed that jenkins was not happy | 17:05 |
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| oferby | about what? did not see.. | 17:06 |
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| Sukhdev | oferby : check out that link that I posted | 17:06 |
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| Sukhdev | oferby : I gave +2 to several patches and none of them merged | 17:07 |
| oferby | i see now thew mcast remote | 17:07 |
| Sukhdev | oferby : ? | 17:09 |
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| oferby | didn't get you question .... I see the patch that have a problem in jenkins . | 17:11 |
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| oferby | is anyone working on it? I was working off-line on the inter-cloud connection. | 17:12 |
| Sukhdev | sorry - was looking through the logs to see if I can spot something | 17:12 |
| Sukhdev | oferby : I was gone on PTO for 2.5 weeks and it seems no body has been looking at these | 17:13 |
| Sukhdev | Looks like this will prevent for merging anything | 17:14 |
| Sukhdev | I will try to look into this later this week | 17:14 |
| Sukhdev | oferby : if you happen to have few cycles, please have a look as well | 17:15 |
| oferby | I have some tasks that I have to finish and I can than help. | 17:15 |
| Sukhdev | I will ping the india team as well | 17:15 |
| oferby | ok | 17:15 |
| Sukhdev | oferby : sounds good | 17:15 |
| Sukhdev | oferby : how is your inter-cloud project coming along? | 17:15 |
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| oferby | as you guys were off-line, I started to work in my own branch | 17:16 |
| oferby | all working well. I plan to merge as soon as I will finish it | 17:16 |
| oferby | meanwhile, I worked with the OVS team | 17:17 |
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| oferby | to add the passive mode. I send out the patch and it is being reviewed | 17:17 |
| oferby | the schema extension too. | 17:17 |
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| Sukhdev | I saw that patch two weeks ago - any progress on it? | 17:18 |
| Sukhdev | does it look like it will merge soon? | 17:18 |
| oferby | sure, but I have to finish it in 2 weeks. internal milestone.... I will merge it as soon as I pass the milestone. ok? | 17:19 |
| Sukhdev | makes sense | 17:20 |
| oferby | I also met with people from Midokura | 17:20 |
| Sukhdev | In the mean time, I will work on identifying the issue with the gate | 17:20 |
| oferby | they are also interested in this | 17:20 |
| Sukhdev | how did that meeting go? | 17:20 |
| oferby | very well. had 2 meeting with them. | 17:20 |
| Sukhdev | good | 17:21 |
| oferby | they are interested with the new API (inter-cloud extension) as they have their own implementation. | 17:21 |
| Sukhdev | when will you post your patch for review? | 17:21 |
| oferby | irena from Midokura added a bug on this and I will write with her blue print, ok? | 17:22 |
| Sukhdev | do you have a link to the bug? | 17:22 |
| oferby | sec | 17:22 |
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| Sukhdev | ChuckC : hi | 17:24 |
| oferby | https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-l2gw/+bug/1529863 | 17:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1529863 in networking-l2gw "[RFE] extend l2gw api to support multi-site connectivity" [Undecided,New] | 17:25 |
| ChuckC | Sukhdev:happy new year | 17:25 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-l2gw/+bug/1529863 | 17:25 |
| Sukhdev | ChuckC : Thanks - same to you | 17:25 |
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| Sukhdev | saw you were lurking here - wondered if you were interested in L2 GW as well | 17:25 |
| ChuckC | We are planning to use it, so I'm trying to see where things are. | 17:26 |
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| Sukhdev | oferby : thanks for the link | 17:26 |
| Sukhdev | ChuckC : what is your use case? | 17:26 |
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| Sukhdev | oferby : If I remember correctly from our discussion during Tokyo summit, Midokura wants to use it for L3, right? | 17:28 |
| oferby | yes | 17:28 |
| Sukhdev | so, they will build it upon your work - | 17:28 |
| ChuckC | I think the basic use case already in place is a good start. We're integrating with Helion. | 17:28 |
| oferby | they have their own implementaion | 17:29 |
| oferby | they use the API | 17:29 |
| Sukhdev | ChuckC : It already is integrated with Helion, right? the HP team made it work | 17:30 |
| Sukhdev | oferby : correct - | 17:30 |
| Sukhdev | ChuckC : are you part of HP team> | 17:30 |
| ChuckC | Sukhdev: yes, one of them. The other team is HP networking. Probably others.... | 17:31 |
| Sukhdev | oferby : are you planning on pushing your patch(es)? | 17:31 |
| oferby | I will finish all in 2 weeks. would you like me to push it when it is in progress or at the end? | 17:32 |
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| ChuckC | HP has enough openstack offerings that I'm a bit confused what's been done where ;) | 17:32 |
| Sukhdev | oferby : Yes, please | 17:32 |
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| oferby | :-) yes push or yes wait .... | 17:33 |
| Sukhdev | oferby : sorry - I meant yes, push it when you are ready | 17:33 |
| Sukhdev | ChuckC : that is the blessing and curse for working for large company :-):-) | 17:33 |
| ChuckC | indeed | 17:34 |
| Sukhdev | I used to work for Cisco many years ago - and I felt like that some times :-) | 17:34 |
| Sukhdev | ChuckC : most of the HP india team was working on L2 GW project - with armax leading from Palo Alto team | 17:35 |
| ChuckC | Yes, I believe that was HP networking. I'm kind of surprised that only you and oferby seem to be attending these meetings. | 17:36 |
| Sukhdev | oferby : so, I will look into the gate issues - hopefully, it will be cleaned up before you are ready to push your patches | 17:36 |
| oferby | greate. | 17:36 |
| Sukhdev | oferby : feel free to jump in, if you have any cycles - | 17:37 |
| oferby | I will. | 17:37 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else we need to cover here? | 17:37 |
| oferby | not from here. | 17:37 |
| ChuckC | where do you track your work for mitaka? | 17:37 |
| ChuckC | you don't do launchpad, right? | 17:38 |
| Sukhdev | ChuckC: we have launchpad | 17:38 |
| ChuckC | blueprints? or just bug list? | 17:38 |
| Sukhdev | however, there is no specific charter for mitaka - other than what oferby is working on | 17:38 |
| Sukhdev | ChuckC : we track everything via bugs | 17:39 |
| ChuckC | ok, that's what it looked like | 17:39 |
| ChuckC | thanks | 17:39 |
| Sukhdev | ChuckC: it keeps things simple :-) | 17:39 |
| Sukhdev | ChuckC : anything you would like to discuss? | 17:39 |
| ChuckC | sure | 17:39 |
| ChuckC | not in particular. I need to get devstack working, but haven't been able to give it too much time yet | 17:40 |
| Sukhdev | ChuckC : give it a shot....actually, I intend to run it as well later this week or early next week | 17:41 |
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| Sukhdev | ChuckC : feel free to ping me if you see any issue | 17:41 |
| ChuckC | Sukhdev: thanks, will do | 17:41 |
| Sukhdev | I guess we are done for today. | 17:41 |
| Sukhdev | will see you guys in two weeks | 17:41 |
| Sukhdev | Thanks for attending | 17:42 |
| ChuckC | adios | 17:42 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 17:42 |
| oferby | yep. bye. | 17:42 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 17:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:42 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 4 17:42:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_l2gw/2016/networking_l2gw.2016-01-04-17.02.html | 17:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_l2gw/2016/networking_l2gw.2016-01-04-17.02.txt | 17:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_l2gw/2016/networking_l2gw.2016-01-04-17.02.log.html | 17:42 |
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| ihrachys | o/ to all stable folks around | 21:00 |
| mriedem | #startmeeting stable | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 4 21:00:29 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| mrunge | o/ | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'stable' | 21:00 |
| mriedem | hi, who's around? | 21:00 |
| ihrachys | o/ | 21:00 |
| mrunge | o/ | 21:01 |
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| mriedem | ok, will give it another minute or so, maybe i can lure mtreinish in | 21:01 |
| mriedem | tonyb: are you around? | 21:01 |
| tonyb | mriedem: yup | 21:01 |
| tonyb | sorry should have waved | 21:02 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: oh is something going on? | 21:02 |
| mriedem | big big things are going on | 21:02 |
| mtreinish | heh | 21:02 |
| mriedem | let's just roll through this, there isn't much planned today since it's the first day back for a lot of people | 21:02 |
| mtreinish | I guess I did say this time worked for me | 21:02 |
| mriedem | the agenda is here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StableTeam#Agenda | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StableTeam#Agenda | 21:02 |
| mriedem | pretty sparse, i think ttx said he had some items for next week | 21:03 |
| mriedem | #topic status | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "status (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:03 | |
| mriedem | so i put a logstash query in the agenda http://goo.gl/5qiw2U | 21:03 |
| mriedem | that shows periodic-stable failures in the last 7 days | 21:03 |
| ihrachys | well I guess that's mostly lbaas for a known reason | 21:04 |
| mriedem | i've been out but just quickly looking over these this afternoon they are mostly neutron-lbaas and ceilomteer, which are known issues in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker | 21:04 |
| mriedem | yeah | 21:04 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: there is also: http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/g/build_queue/periodic-stable | 21:04 |
| mriedem | kilo was also busted, but mkoderer fixed that | 21:04 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: ooo pretty | 21:04 |
| mriedem | #link http://goo.gl/5qiw2U | 21:04 |
| tonyb | mriedem: is that the testrepositoiry issue? | 21:04 |
| mriedem | #link http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/g/build_queue/periodic-stable | 21:04 |
| mtreinish | but that doesnt show the devstack failures | 21:04 |
| mriedem | tonyb: yeah, pbr and tox | 21:04 |
| mtreinish | tonyb: yeah, its actually a pbr thing | 21:04 |
| tonyb | mriedem: cool. | 21:05 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262470/ fixed kilo | 21:05 |
| tonyb | mriedem: cool. | 21:05 |
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| mriedem | ihrachys: on the neutron-lbaas thing, did you have any updates on that? it was bit rotting in project-config from what i remember | 21:05 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245525/ | 21:06 |
| ihrachys_ | mriedem: yeah. I tried several isolated patchsets, but seems like infra wants a full blown rework | 21:06 |
| ihrachys_ | mriedem: introducing new macros just for periodic jobs | 21:06 |
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| mriedem | the alternative is hard-coding it in the in-tree setup file right? | 21:06 |
| ihrachys_ | which was not in line with my scarce time :-| | 21:06 |
| mriedem | sure, but | 21:06 |
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| mriedem | you wouldn't have to work on it | 21:07 |
| mriedem | it's not great since it's a thing that has to be done every release | 21:07 |
| ihrachys_ | mriedem: probably yeah, we could go with hardcoded way. Not that I like it much, and not that I get infra concerns enough. | 21:07 |
| ihrachys_ | mriedem: I haven't seen many volunteers to do it instead of me from infra side :) | 21:07 |
| mriedem | i doubt anyone besides me knows about that infra patch | 21:08 |
| ihrachys_ | mriedem: you mean from infra folks? | 21:08 |
| mriedem | well, anyone | 21:08 |
| mriedem | are there neutron-lbaas mini PTLs that should be involved with this kind of thing? | 21:08 |
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| ihrachys_ | mriedem: people were reviewing it, telling me I do it wrong, and that we need macros. not that we did not have discussion around it. | 21:08 |
| * mriedem is unclear on the complicated beurocracy that is the neutron stadium | 21:09 | |
| tonyb | ihrachys_: I'll have a look at it. | 21:09 |
| tonyb | (where "it" == the new macros | 21:09 |
| mriedem | #action tonyb to take a crack at the infra side of https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1523241 | 21:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1523241 in neutron "neutron-lbaas failing in stable/liberty due to "ImportError: No module named embrane.common"" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Ihar Hrachyshka (ihar-hrachyshka) | 21:09 |
| ihrachys_ | mriedem: there are lbaas cores, not sure they would be of help here though. this tox_install.sh thing is hardly understood by enough folks in neutron team. | 21:09 |
| ihrachys_ | tonyb: thanks | 21:09 |
| mriedem | ok, cool, thanks. if that doesn't get anywhere i'd say we hack the branch in the scripts for now if no one has time to work on this | 21:09 |
| mriedem | ihrachys_: yeah | 21:10 |
| ihrachys_ | sounds like a plan | 21:10 |
| mtreinish | ihrachys_: ugh, that script... | 21:10 |
| ihrachys_ | mtreinish: it's now all over neutron subprojects :D | 21:10 |
| mriedem | funny how that works | 21:11 |
| mriedem | anything else on this or should we move on? | 21:11 |
| mtreinish | sigh, this is why I keep saying this is why you need a stable interface and work from releases | 21:11 |
| mtreinish | but whatever | 21:11 |
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| ihrachys_ | side note: problem with periodic jobs is they don't indicate that a patch will actually merge in gate. | 21:11 |
| ihrachys_ | mtreinish: we work on neutron-lib, it's ongoing. | 21:11 |
| mriedem | ihrachys_: can you expand a bit on the periodic job thing? | 21:12 |
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| mriedem | they don't actually run on a patch | 21:12 |
| ihrachys_ | mriedem: well, the problem is that it covers unit tests, docs, prolly that's all? none of those devstack jobs that we run in real gate. | 21:12 |
| mriedem | yeah | 21:12 |
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| mtreinish | ihrachys_: that's not true, there are periodic stable jobs for tempest jobs | 21:13 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: did anyone ever propose running a dsvm tempest job in the periodic-stable queue? | 21:13 |
| ihrachys_ | and those jobs start to fail no less often than unit tests. so it's kinda not complete solution. | 21:13 |
| mriedem | oh right, | 21:13 |
| mriedem | stable tempest kilo was failing on that devstack thing | 21:13 |
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| mtreinish | right | 21:13 |
| ihrachys_ | mtreinish: really? ok. probably not of those from gate anyhow | 21:13 |
| mtreinish | ihrachys_: jsut look at the link to the health dashboard | 21:13 |
| mtreinish | those are the periodic stable tempest jobs we run | 21:14 |
| mriedem | ihrachys_: e.g. http://logs.openstack.org/periodic-stable/periodic-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-kilo/8de4dcd/console.html | 21:14 |
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| mtreinish | it's not exhaustive, but its the common ones | 21:14 |
| ihrachys_ | ack | 21:14 |
| mriedem | which hits that devstack pbr failure http://logs.openstack.org/periodic-stable/periodic-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-kilo/8de4dcd/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2016-01-04_06_11_29_938 | 21:14 |
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| mtreinish | full, postgres full, and neutron full for each branch iirc | 21:14 |
| mriedem | so yeah, i guess i forget about that one | 21:14 |
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| mriedem | i'm surprsised we even run that many | 21:14 |
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| mriedem | let's move on | 21:15 |
| mriedem | the other stable/liberty failure i was seeing was ceilometer, which was tracked at one point with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1526530 | 21:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1526530 in Ceilometer "stable/liberty integration tests failing" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to gordon chung (chungg) | 21:15 |
| mriedem | gordc had some things proposed but abandoned them, i need to follow up | 21:15 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: we added them back in the day because I complained I was the only one looking at the failures, this was supposed to raise awareness of stable branch issues in the gate.... | 21:15 |
| mriedem | #action mriedem to follow up with gordc on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1526530 | 21:16 |
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| mriedem | were there other stable branch issues we haven't covered? | 21:16 |
| mtreinish | (those were the only 3 configs back when we added them) | 21:16 |
| ihrachys | pbr thing? do we have a plan for that? | 21:16 |
| mriedem | ihrachys: the kilo thing was fixed this morning | 21:16 |
| ihrachys | mriedem: hm? what was the fix? | 21:17 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262470/ | 21:17 |
| mriedem | so i think by and large stable right now is okish | 21:17 |
| mriedem | gordc has a patch up for the ceilometer issue https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258642/ | 21:18 |
| mrunge | I'm a bit astonished, that issue hit so different projects but not all branches... | 21:18 |
| ihrachys | nice. thanks for the link. | 21:18 |
| mriedem | mrunge: i think stable/liberty was already fixed | 21:18 |
| mriedem | mrunge: the tox thing hit a bunch of projects | 21:18 |
| mriedem | but dims and others were fixing before the vacation | 21:18 |
| mrunge | heh, horizon was hit by the issue beginning with Dec 26th | 21:19 |
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| tonyb | mrunge: yeah really bad timing ;P | 21:19 |
| mriedem | ok, moving on from status | 21:20 |
| mriedem | #topic release-plans | 21:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release-plans (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:20 | |
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| mriedem | the only thing i have on the agenda is nova doing a stable/liberty 12.0.1 release | 21:20 |
| mriedem | which i brought up in the ML awhile back http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/081872.html | 21:21 |
| mriedem | these are the open reviews | 21:21 |
| mriedem | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/liberty | 21:21 |
| mriedem | i haven't gone through all of those yet, but i want to get at least a couple in, like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253224/ | 21:21 |
| mriedem | it's basically a point release to get some key bug fixes out | 21:21 |
| mriedem | anyway, i plan on getting into more of those this week and then i'll be pinging nova stable cores to look | 21:22 |
| mriedem | is anyone else aware of any projects that are looking at doing a stable branch release? | 21:22 |
| tonyb | mriedem: FWIW I'll look through again and see if there is anything *I* think shoudl be in 12.0.1 (apart from the reno review) | 21:23 |
| mriedem | tonyb: thanks | 21:23 |
| mriedem | i didn't want to start pinging people today on reviews | 21:23 |
| mtreinish | I dont know of any | 21:23 |
| mriedem | there have been a couple of projects that have done a stable/liberty release already | 21:23 |
| * ihrachys wonders why we don't automate minor releases, and make them frequent. we were thinking of getting there for neutron for L. | 21:23 | |
| mriedem | ihrachys: well, there was that long thread in the ML on that | 21:23 |
| mriedem | like, every commit being a release | 21:24 |
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| mriedem | it's really up to the project teams now as to how frequent they want to release | 21:24 |
| dims_ | mriedem : mordred had this review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247677/ about documenting EOL and proposed release dates in openstack/releases repo. do we want to do that? | 21:24 |
| mriedem | dims_: huh, hadn't seen it, i'll have to look | 21:25 |
| mriedem | #action mriedem to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247677/ | 21:25 |
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| tonyb | it's merged | 21:25 |
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| mriedem | yeah | 21:25 |
| mriedem | it's also confusing | 21:25 |
| dims_ | tonyb : i know, continue to use that place to document future releases | 21:25 |
| mriedem | the commit message talks about when they will EOL but doesn't specify that | 21:26 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: it does in the index | 21:26 |
| tonyb | mriedem: yeah I just saw that | 21:26 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: oh yeah | 21:26 |
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| mtreinish | we probably need to mark juno as EOL though | 21:27 |
| mtreinish | instead of security supported (EOL 2015-12-03) | 21:27 |
| mriedem | i guess that's implied | 21:27 |
| tonyb | dims_: ok. | 21:27 |
| mtreinish | heh, I was just going off the other branches where it says EOL | 21:27 |
| mriedem | ok, i guess if there are things to address there let's take it to -stable after the meeting | 21:28 |
| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 21:28 |
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| mriedem | there are 2 items on the agenda | 21:28 |
| mriedem | 1. i want to get a review dashboard link in the #openstack-stable channel topic | 21:29 |
| tonyb | FWIW it's now markjed as EOL | 21:29 |
| mtreinish | tonyb: ah, ok | 21:29 |
| tonyb | mtreinish: send me the link I'll work with @infra to get it in there. | 21:29 |
| mriedem | sdague had an email to the ML on dashboards for new gerrit, i was thinking it'd be good to have something like that in the -stable channel topic | 21:29 |
| mriedem | tonyb: was that meant for me? | 21:29 |
| anteaya | nice idea | 21:29 |
| tonyb | mriedem: yeah, bad tab-complete | 21:30 |
| mtreinish | tonyb: ?? | 21:30 |
| ihrachys | mriedem: what will the board contain? all backports? | 21:30 |
| mriedem | ihrachys: just open reviews in stable/branches, pretty simple to start | 21:30 |
| mriedem | but sdague's had things broken down by what was passing jenkins, what has a +2, etc | 21:30 |
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| mriedem | makes prioritizing easier | 21:31 |
| tonyb | Yeah we can modify the dashboard as we go | 21:31 |
| ihrachys | mriedem: I am agnostic, but if you want to use it as a data point, personally I care little for backports outside neutron subprojects (because the latter are already more than enough for my taste) | 21:31 |
| mriedem | so i was going to take a stab at that when i got a chance, but if others are interested feel free to propose some ideas and we can check them out | 21:31 |
| mriedem | ihrachys: same for me and nova, | 21:32 |
| mriedem | ihrachys: i just like to see what it looks like at first and we can iterate on it | 21:32 |
| mriedem | swift has a nice dashboard in their channel topic and i'd like nova to do similar | 21:32 |
| ihrachys | mriedem: for neutron stable stuff, I use this: https://github.com/openstack/gerrit-dash-creator/blob/master/dashboards/neutron-subprojects-stable.dash | 21:32 |
| tonyb | I tend to focus on nova and whatever I see the get the requirements updates passing | 21:32 |
| mriedem | #link neutron stable review dashboard example https://github.com/openstack/gerrit-dash-creator/blob/master/dashboards/neutron-subprojects-stable.dash | 21:33 |
| mriedem | anyway, it's a thing, if people have input or want to propose something to infra, we can review there | 21:33 |
| mriedem | the last item in open discussion, | 21:34 |
| mriedem | 2. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker has completed sections for icehouse and juno, which are now EOL | 21:34 |
| mtreinish | just drop them | 21:34 |
| mriedem | it's getting messy in there, and since i spent part of my vacation cleaning up and organizing my office, i'm in the mode | 21:34 |
| mriedem | yeah, so was just wondering if anyone had reason not to drop those | 21:35 |
| ihrachys | kill the witch | 21:35 |
| mriedem | ok, will do | 21:35 |
| tonyb | mriedem: nuke 'em | 21:35 |
| mriedem | that's it for agenda items, did anyone else have anything? | 21:35 |
| mriedem | #action mriedem to drop icehouse and juno sections from https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker | 21:35 |
| mriedem | ok, not hearing anything else, so we can end early. | 21:36 |
| mriedem | like i said, ttx said he had some items for next week | 21:36 |
| ihrachys | one thing we should discuss is pushing forward constraints to more projects. next time. | 21:36 |
| mriedem | so i await in eager anticipation | 21:36 |
| mriedem | ihrachys: yeah, good point. | 21:36 |
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| mriedem | those jobs are passing but non-voting in nova stable/liberty right now | 21:36 |
| ihrachys | we did it for neutron, and will backport remaining stuff to L | 21:36 |
| mriedem | we should circle back with lifeless on the plan there | 21:36 |
| mriedem | #action figure out what's going on with the -constraints jobs in stable/liberty and if/when they become voting | 21:37 |
| mriedem | i'll follow up with lifeless and bring back what we talked about to this meeting next week | 21:37 |
| ihrachys | I think L for neutron repo should be done, and we look into *aas and remaining gaps. hopefully more projects will get to it in L, so that we can reasonably consider extending life for the branch. but I suspect it will be Mitaka | 21:37 |
| mriedem | i'm hoping the guys working on that are tracking that work somewhere | 21:38 |
| ihrachys | let's hear from them for now. | 21:38 |
| mriedem | ok, anything else? | 21:39 |
| mriedem | taking that as a no, so we can end early | 21:39 |
| mriedem | thanks everyone | 21:39 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 21:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 4 21:39:24 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-01-04-21.00.html | 21:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-01-04-21.00.txt | 21:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-01-04-21.00.log.html | 21:39 |
| ihrachys | thanks. not a bad one for the first time. gn to all. | 21:39 |
| mriedem | ttyl | 21:39 |
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| mrunge | good night | 21:42 |
| mrunge | and thank you | 21:42 |
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