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| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k | 14:00 |
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| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, bunting | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat | 14:00 |
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| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | #startmeeting Glance | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | #topic Agenda | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 10 14:00:33 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| kragniz | o/ | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | Not a very long agenda, yet. HOW'S EVERYONE DOING? :D :D :D | 14:00 |
| avarner_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:00 | |
| nikhil_k | o/ | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | 0/ | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
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| jokke_ | o/ | 14:00 |
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| sigmavirus24 | flaper87: still sick, but y'know :P | 14:01 |
| ativelkov | o/ | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | let's give some more minutes for folks to join | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | sigmavirus24: :( get well soon! | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | btw, happy to have you back :D | 14:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | I'm happy to be back | 14:01 |
| kragniz | sigmavirus24: welcome back! | 14:02 |
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| flaper87 | ok, let's get started. I still have a crappy internet connection so, expect some lag from me :D | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | tihs time is not my brain's fault | 14:02 |
| sigmavirus24 | flaper87: sure ;) | 14:02 |
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| flaper87 | :P | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | #topic Teams Updates | 14:02 |
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| flaper87 | artifacts nikhil ativelkov | 14:03 |
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| rosmaita | o/ | 14:03 |
| nikhil | Hi | 14:03 |
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| ativelkov | so, we have two specs on review now | 14:03 |
| ativelkov | one is for glance v3 -> glare v0.1 | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | ativelkov: I put the v3 -> 0.1 in the specs prio list | 14:04 |
| ativelkov | another one is a public API description, i.e. the one which addresses the defcore and API-wg concerns | 14:04 |
| ativelkov | flaper87: I saw that, thanks! | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | awesome, I think I commented on the other one but was just a quick comment. We'll need API-WG feedback on that one but yeah, lets get it reviewed | 14:04 |
| ativelkov | Actually, that one was written by mfedosin, but he is on PTO, so I may answer any questions on that | 14:04 |
| jokke_ | ativelkov: do you have idea about timeline? When would you need the review powar on majority parts of this work? | 14:04 |
| ativelkov | jokke_: the migration patch is already submitted. it's still WiP, but I expect it to complete today or tomorrow | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | #chair nikhil | 14:05 |
| openstack | Current chairs: flaper87 nikhil | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | oh it's on that good shape ... cool | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | ativelkov: i left come comments on your spec last night | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: in case disappear :D | 14:06 |
| ativelkov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255274/ | 14:06 |
| nikhil | flaper87: ah ok, sure | 14:06 |
| ativelkov | rosmaita: thanks! Didn't check it yet, will have some cycles for that later today | 14:06 |
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| flaper87 | from a review pov, right now the focus should be on the migration spec and patches implementing that spec | 14:06 |
| kairat | o/ | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | not saying we shouldn't review the other one | 14:07 |
| ativelkov | I just want to quickly sync some major decision points on that migration | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | ativelkov: nothing major, just some clarifications | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | shooot | 14:07 |
| ativelkov | what should be the default glare port? I suggest 8383, but open for other proposals | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | 9393 | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | I guess that's what you meant | 14:07 |
| ativelkov | oh, yeah, 9393, sure | 14:07 |
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| nikhil | +1 | 14:08 |
| ativelkov | And what should be the keystone service name and type? I propose type='artifact' and name='glare', but feel free to suggest something else | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | 9393 would be my preference as well | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | I think jokke_ checked it and it was free | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | or was it mfedosin | 14:08 |
| sabari | o/ | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | it was at least during summit still | 14:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | why not 9293 or 9392 just to be funny? | 14:08 |
| nikhil | sorry to bring this up late but do everyone feel ok with name "glare"? | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | sigmavirus24: because this is serious business and we're not funny here ;) | 14:09 |
| sigmavirus24 | ooo why not randomly bind to one of those two? | 14:09 |
| * sigmavirus24 shouldnt' be allowed in meetings | 14:09 | |
| flaper87 | I do feel ok with glare | 14:09 |
| sigmavirus24 | nikhil: I'm meh | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: i am +1 on Glare | 14:09 |
| nikhil | I think as a part of initial phase it seems ok but when you bring up keystone name it sounds a bit weird | 14:09 |
| jokke_ | I liked it | 14:09 |
| sigmavirus24 | I don't want glance glaring at everyone but whatever | 14:09 |
| nikhil | I would prefer the name "Art" | 14:09 |
| sigmavirus24 | nikhil: Arti | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | ativelkov: re service catalog, I think that's fine but please sync with sdague or some keystone folks on that | 14:09 |
| nikhil | prolly should send that to ML | 14:09 |
| nikhil | sigmavirus24: yeah, that's safer | 14:10 |
| nikhil | :_ | 14:10 |
| nikhil | :) | 14:10 |
| sigmavirus24 | nikhil: makes Artifacts sound like your neighbor who is super friend "Hey Arti!" | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | lol | 14:10 |
| ativelkov | yeah, nikhil, thanks, ML is a good idea | 14:10 |
| * sigmavirus24 still wonders why flaper87 invited him back to the core team :P | 14:10 | |
| flaper87 | ok, let's move on | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | sigmavirus24: but they are! | 14:10 |
| sigmavirus24 | jokke_: I know! | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | sigmavirus24: I'm already regrettningit | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:10 |
| nikhil | sigmavirus24: haha, arti in hindi means workship | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: we still have time to block that? | 14:10 |
| sigmavirus24 | nikhil: all the better :) | 14:11 |
| nikhil | :) | 14:11 |
| sigmavirus24 | jokke_: you already +1'd it :P | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | ok ok, let's move on | 14:11 |
| jokke_ | sigmavirus24: I know, but I have friends (believe or not) :P | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | what else on artifacts? | 14:11 |
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| flaper87 | jokke_: sigmavirus24 friendly notice: shut up! | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:11 |
| ativelkov | well, nothing new for now | 14:11 |
| nikhil | flaper87: there are tiny things to be aware of | 14:12 |
| nikhil | logged here: | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: shoot | 14:12 |
| nikhil | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_artifacts_sub_team/2015/glance_artifacts_sub_team.2015-12-07-14.04.html | 14:12 |
| nikhil | done | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | okidoki, I'll read through | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | thanks for the heads up | 14:12 |
| nikhil | np | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | Drivers updates: | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | Let me start with saying that I've added the reviews priorities for specs to the drivers meetting's agenda. To all drivers and people interested in providing feedback, please, take a look here: | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-drivers-meeting-agenda | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | Also, if you think your spec should be a priority, let me (or any of the drivers) know and we'll evaluate the urgency based on the current load. | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | Image Import process broken down into sub-tasks (flaper87) | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232371/ | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | There have been more comments and updates on the spec. If you haven't followed-up on it, this would be a good time to re-read it as I believe we're getting closer to an almost-ready status. | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | In addition to this, we've broken the spec down into several work items and we'll keep expanding the list as new items/parts are agreed on. This is fairly new and it happened yday, I believe. If you're looking forward to contribute to this work, I'd highly recommend you to go through this list, provide some feedback on the work items and take them :) | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | Note that there are some dependencies in this work items so please, respect that. | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | To all reviewers, whenever you're reviewing patches for this work, make sure you have the spec openned right next to the patch you're reviewing :D | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | questions? concerns? feedback? | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | can we agree that bikeshed is called bikeshed? | 14:14 |
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| rosmaita | jokke_: it's now called "stage" | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: no, that actually changed in PS8 | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | but we can change it back | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | ++ | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: sshhh | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | if there's popular demand | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | sorry | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | don't you know sigmavirus24 is back ? | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | don't get him started | 14:15 |
| nikhil | stage sounds good to me | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | sigmavirus24 wants to call it the "yak pen" | 14:15 |
| nikhil | but not sure if it's a noun or verb | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | lol | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: exactly! | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | it's both | 14:15 |
| nikhil | :) | 14:15 |
| * sigmavirus24 is being quiet | 14:15 | |
| nikhil | thought so | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | BAM! mindblown | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | then we can call the working dir in the worker code "backstage" ... sounds good to me :) | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: LOOOOOOL, love that | 14:16 |
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| nikhil | green room? | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | hahahahhaha | 14:16 |
| sigmavirus24 | are tasks stage hands now? | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | ok ok, let's move on | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | Cross project updates | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: floor is yours | 14:16 |
| nikhil | So, that one got feedback | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | so many updates, this is good | 14:16 |
| nikhil | and there are two things | 14:16 |
| nikhil | it's hard to get the lib on list of exceptions | 14:16 |
| nikhil | lib == glance_store | 14:16 |
| nikhil | as things are we will see when we hit a situation | 14:17 |
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| nikhil | as the process is sorta complexly variable | 14:17 |
| nikhil | but overall I like the idea of governance tag | 14:17 |
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| nikhil | and about to add +1 to that idea | 14:17 |
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| nikhil | overall the spec ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226157 ) is in good shape | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | mmhh, but that's not a tag, though. it's a x-proj spec. The tag exists already and it's called assert:follows-standard-deprecation | 14:18 |
| * nikhil done. was thinking wrongly, spec was linked. | 14:18 | |
| flaper87 | unless they are talking about a new tag and I missed that part | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: thanks for the updated | 14:18 |
| jokke_ | no I think flaper87 you are correct | 14:19 |
| nikhil | I don't know which tag they are talking about | 14:19 |
| nikhil | it's a comment from doug | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | ah, I probably missed that comment | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | I think that plan will be reverted next cycle again (branchless clients and libs) because all the hell will break loose but lets see | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | I'll read through | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | ok, let's move on | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | #topic New home for release schedule (flaper87) | 14:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "New home for release schedule (flaper87) (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:20 | |
| flaper87 | Just a heads up that the release schedule home has changed. It's not longer in the wiki page but in the openstack docs url. Here's the link: | 14:20 |
| flaper87 | #link http://docs.openstack.org/releases/schedules/mitaka.html | 14:20 |
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| flaper87 | I'll be updating that schedule to add Glance's timelines and schedule activities. | 14:20 |
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| flaper87 | questions? feedback? Just wanted to make sure you were aware of this | 14:20 |
| * flaper87 wants a per-project .ics with scheduled activities just like we have fro meetings | 14:21 | |
| * flaper87 will propose that | 14:21 | |
| jokke_ | ++ | 14:21 |
| flaper87 | ok, moving on | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | that would be super handy | 14:21 |
| flaper87 | #topic glance_store's drivers deprecation (flaper87) | 14:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "glance_store's drivers deprecation (flaper87) (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:21 | |
| flaper87 | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/081966.html | 14:21 |
| flaper87 | I sent that email out a couple of minutes ago. I don't expect folks to have read it already but I'd like to encourage everyone to do so. Feedback would be awesome as that's going to make some people sad/mad and it'd be great to have the community on the same page so that we can provide the best feedback to consumers of the library and, of course, stand behind on the decisions made. | 14:21 |
| nikhil | I noticed swift wasn't in the list of glance-maint | 14:22 |
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| flaper87 | nikhil: I knew you would be one of them :D | 14:22 |
| nikhil | and I just found out the explanation | 14:23 |
| jokke_ | ;) | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | hope the reasoning makes sense but I'm happy to discuss that further | 14:23 |
| kragniz | so the plan is to run all glance functional tests against master glance_store? | 14:23 |
| kragniz | (I think that's a good idea) | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | yeah | 14:23 |
| nikhil | master & stable!? | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | pretty much the same way cinder does w/ third-party drivers | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: yup | 14:23 |
| kragniz | flaper87: sounds good | 14:23 |
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| flaper87 | happy to discuss this now if folks have read the email already or we can add it back to next week's meeting due to the short notice | 14:24 |
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| flaper87 | or both | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:24 |
| nikhil | next meeting sounds good to me to be able to ponder on things | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | ++ | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | ok, I'll add it there | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | wow, that's some email! | 14:25 |
| kragniz | I'm good with the rest of it | 14:25 |
| nikhil | yeah, I thought so too | 14:25 |
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| kragniz | what happens if we don't get people to volunteer? | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | okidoki, let's move on :D | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | kragniz: the email says, we'll remove that driver | 14:26 |
| sabari | me too, looks good and wasn't a surprise since we have been talking about 3rd party CI for sometime | 14:26 |
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| nikhil | kragniz: we will! or the drivers go in a cycle or two :) | 14:26 |
| ativelkov | I'll try asking Mirantis's ceph team if they want to volunteer maintaining the ceph driver | 14:26 |
| kragniz | cool, in O | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | ativelkov: sounds awesome! | 14:26 |
| nikhil | kragniz: passive reach out to get more open source upstream friendly | 14:26 |
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| nikhil | more people* | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | ok, let's move one | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | #topic Release notes | 14:27 |
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| flaper87 | jokke_: was that you? | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | yeah | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | floor is yours | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | so quick heads up for people. We moved to utilize reno for release notes | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | w0000000h000000 | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/reno/ | 14:28 |
| kragniz | all our projects have now moved, correct? | 14:28 |
| kragniz | (store + client) | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | tons of small files ahead so please look into the documentation and prepare yourselves that Liberty and Mitaka+ will require those | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | I think yes, glance_store was the last one to join | 14:28 |
| kragniz | cool | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | so lets start including those release notes into the changes, please | 14:29 |
| nikhil | so searchlight team added some good guidelines for when and how to add notes | 14:29 |
| nikhil | #link https://github.com/openstack/searchlight/blob/master/doc/source/feature-requests-bugs.rst#release-notes | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | jokke_:anything reviewers should keep in mind ? | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: ++ thanks | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | we should probably have that as well | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | in the contirbuting docs | 14:29 |
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| nikhil | besides there's this: | 14:30 |
| nikhil | #link http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html#how-to-add-new-release-notes | 14:30 |
| kragniz | shouldn't these be somewhere common and link to that? | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | contributing* | 14:30 |
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| jokke_ | flaper87: nothing special comes up to my mind atm. good idea ofc check the output of the rel notes job to verify that they actyally get included | 14:30 |
| nikhil | kragniz: that was project specific | 14:30 |
| nikhil | openstack specific is the link above | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | awesome stuff! glad to see the rel-notes process improved | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | other than that lets get that going so we can later on agree requiring those and providing - votes for not including them | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | ++ | 14:31 |
| kragniz | one thing to remember is who these notes are for: end users and deployers | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | sounds good to me! Any questions? objections? | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | that's it from me | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | kragniz: ++ | 14:32 |
| nikhil | more descriptive the better (explicit vs implicit) | 14:32 |
| kragniz | extra noise in release notes makes things harder for them to pick out important things | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | kragniz: specially service & client | 14:32 |
| nikhil | yeah, but good meta-info clears that confusion too! | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | store is bit there and there ... they are more for us ;) | 14:32 |
| kragniz | (for example, end users don't care about us refactoring tests) | 14:33 |
| * flaper87 likes that kragniz always brings that up as a nice reminder | 14:33 | |
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| kragniz | flaper87: if I say it enough times! | 14:33 |
| sigmavirus24 | kragniz: jokke_ we should make a gate check for those release notes | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | kragniz: re tests, that's debeatable. Some consumers of these libraries use the tests shipped in the library | 14:34 |
| sigmavirus24 | We should automate that kind of stuff instead of relying on reviewers to remember to -1 things | 14:34 |
| kragniz | sigmavirus24: what would it check? | 14:34 |
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| jokke_ | kragniz: but deployer does care if we refactor the test to validate that it still tests their use-case | 14:34 |
| sigmavirus24 | kragniz: that the commit includes release notes? | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | but I agree "fixed a typo" is not useful | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | sigmavirus24: let's get the people used to that first and then we can see how we gate it fitering those typofixes etc. out | 14:35 |
| kragniz | sigmavirus24: do you mean for all commits? | 14:35 |
| kragniz | flaper87: okay, I guess so | 14:35 |
| sigmavirus24 | kragniz: gate checks can be skipped | 14:35 |
| sigmavirus24 | It would probably take some tuning but we could certainly do it | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | (unless the typo is in a function name) | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | as said lets think that _after_ we get the community used to this (and everyone having at least their first rel note merged) | 14:37 |
| kragniz | sigmavirus24: it's an interesting idea | 14:37 |
| kragniz | but yeah, we should get used to the process first | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | anything else on this topic? | 14:37 |
| kragniz | that's all from me | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | ditto | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | coolio | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | #topic Open Discussion | 14:38 |
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| flaper87 | nikhil: ? | 14:38 |
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| nikhil | so this one | 14:38 |
| nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243348 | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | cli stuff, right? | 14:38 |
| nikhil | yes, sorry. the title is: | 14:39 |
| nikhil | Deprecate individual CLIs in favour of OSC | 14:39 |
| nikhil | It's gaining good traction | 14:39 |
| nikhil | lots of +2s | 14:39 |
| flaper87 | it'd be great totget people's feedback on that spec | 14:39 |
| nikhil | and I overall like the idea | 14:39 |
| * flaper87 +2'd it and jokke_ is going to hate him for that | 14:39 | |
| nikhil | I have been thinking about one thing though | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | thanks nikhil | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: that's your call ... will -1 it myself ;) | 14:40 |
| kragniz | I'm +1 on that | 14:40 |
| kragniz | it's a pain to use all the different clis | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: what's that? | 14:40 |
| nikhil | besides the import stuff | 14:40 |
| nikhil | the location management stuff | 14:40 |
| nikhil | I find it hard to believe it's out there on the stage with configuration etc at the glance backend | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | I don't think anything will happen until N (or even O) but t's good to keep in mind that's likely going to happen | 14:41 |
| nikhil | the UX is pretty bad and am not sure if it's interop fussy topic | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: that's related to OSC, right? | 14:42 |
| nikhil | anyways, it just seems like a bad idea to port that to OSC | 14:42 |
| nikhil | yes | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | it'd be great to bring all this feedback to the m-l and the OSC team | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | as said before I'm happy to spin off glancecli project forking the last version of cli we ship if we're going to this direction :P | 14:42 |
| nikhil | I have always been of the opinion that location management is for the case where operators trust their users (private cloud) | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: I'm curious to know how all that will work on OSC | 14:43 |
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| nikhil | exactly | 14:43 |
| sigmavirus24 | jokke_: you're welcome to do that :P | 14:43 |
| nikhil | so, I am not sure at this point if we can remove the glanceclient CLI 100% | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | cool, do let me know when you have some extra feedback | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | erm, some answers for that | 14:44 |
| flaper87 | that was a hell of a freaudian slip | 14:44 |
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| kragniz | nikhil: I don't think people want to remove it right now | 14:44 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: perhaps a new thread on the m-l about this? | 14:44 |
| flaper87 | kragniz: I think nikhil meant "entirely and not when that will happen | 14:44 |
| kragniz | nikhil: more tell people that the recommended thing is OSC | 14:44 |
| nikhil | ok, noting it down | 14:44 |
| nikhil | flaper87: right, that's what I meant | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | the spec says it'll stay for 2 more cycles after it's marked as deprecated | 14:45 |
| kragniz | flaper87: okay | 14:45 |
| * kragniz only skimmed the spec, sorry :( | 14:45 | |
| flaper87 | ok, one more heads up from me: The spec freeze date is approaching so, spec writeers, please, I beg you ,address comments in a timely manner so we can work with you on getting those merged | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | There have been reviews to specs and quite some lag on addressing those feedbacks | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | well the spec proposes clearly 2 cycles to remove native clients | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | I've mentioned this in the email I sent to the m-l last night | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: you have 2 cycles to fork the CLI </troll> | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | anything else? anyone? | 14:47 |
| nikhil | I want to propose a video conference for artifacts. | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: to demo it or to talk about the new API ? | 14:48 |
| nikhil | sometime before the holidays (depending on your locality) | 14:48 |
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| * sigmavirus24 has to cut out early | 14:49 | |
| nikhil | and after 16th dec (when Mike is back and settled hopefully) | 14:49 |
| ativelkov | Sounds good to me | 14:49 |
| nikhil | flaper87: no, to increase momentum and get early feedback | 14:49 |
| ativelkov | Mike will be back on Monday, I think | 14:49 |
| nikhil | anything that we need to talk about it actually | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | I'm happy to join and schedule it. WE can use my bluejeans bridge as we did for the import process | 14:50 |
| nikhil | I can propose some agenda and send out etherpad | 14:50 |
| ativelkov | nikhil: I like the idea. Need to try to invite the guys from community app catalog | 14:50 |
| nikhil | ativelkov: +1 | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: please do, I'll setup the meeting on bluejeans so we can record it and what not | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | oh yeah ... FYI I'll be out of picture between Tue 15th and Tue 5th of Jan | 14:50 |
| nikhil | great | 14:50 |
| nikhil | oh noes | 14:51 |
| nikhil | flaper87: I will sync offline when I have something ready | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | so don't expect reviews, actions, e-mails, replies etc. from me during that time :D | 14:51 |
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| flaper87 | jokke_ please, enjoy your holidays. If we see an email, review, rant, joke from you on that period of time, we'll revoke your -2 rights and just leave you with +1 and +2 | 14:52 |
| nikhil | I hope we have another one later in the cycle when things are more through the gate and jokke_ will be there then | 14:52 |
| flaper87 | actually, just +1 | 14:52 |
| flaper87 | and no +2 | 14:52 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:52 |
| flaper87 | +A* | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: ninja reverts ... you won't even notice them :P | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: +1 on enjoying your holidays | 14:52 |
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| jokke_ | flaper87: I promise to stay more within the Holiday scope than you did | 14:53 |
| jokke_ | :) | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | touche | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | damnit, ppl always use that against me | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | ok,if there's nothing else, we can call it a meeting | 14:54 |
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| flaper87 | thanks everyone! see y'all next week. | 14:54 |
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| nikhil | thanks all! | 14:54 |
| flaper87 | #endmeeting | 14:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 10 14:54:35 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-12-10-14.00.html | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | bye | 14:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-12-10-14.00.txt | 14:54 |
| kragniz | thanks all | 14:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-12-10-14.00.log.html | 14:54 |
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| TravT_ | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 10 15:00:42 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TravT_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:00 |
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| nikhil | o/ | 15:01 |
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| rosmaita | o/ | 15:01 |
| TravT_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| sjmc7 | o/ | 15:01 |
| rosmaita | brb ... have to refill coffee | 15:01 |
| yingjun | hi | 15:01 |
| nikhil | same here | 15:01 |
| TravT_ | good call on coffee | 15:01 |
| TravT_ | as FYI, lakshmiS live in an area of India that has been hit hard by flooding and he's had only occassional power the last couple weeks. | 15:02 |
| rosmaita | back | 15:02 |
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| TravT_ | how is everybody this lovely day? | 15:02 |
| rosmaita | sorry to hear about lakshimiS ... hope he & his family are OK | 15:02 |
| TravT_ | yeah. i think they are all ok | 15:03 |
| TravT_ | agenda is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:03 |
| TravT_ | #topic Mitaka m1 tagged | 15:04 |
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| TravT_ | https://github.com/openstack/searchlight/releases/tag/0.2.0.0b1 | 15:04 |
| TravT_ | not much to say about it | 15:04 |
| TravT_ | other than FYI | 15:04 |
| sjmc7 | that’s a catchy tag | 15:05 |
| sjmc7 | rolls off the tongue! | 15:05 |
| TravT_ | the new process on the surface seemed complicated from the email, but actually was easier than last time. | 15:05 |
| TravT_ | i think some of the projects that are used to just having release manager do everything may not have agreed | 15:05 |
| TravT_ | but for us, it was simpler | 15:06 |
| TravT_ | #topic cinder updates | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "cinder updates (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:06 | |
| TravT_ | this one isn't on the agenda, but thought I'd share some info | 15:06 |
| TravT_ | duncan (core on cinder team) tells me he's got it nearly ready | 15:07 |
| yingjun | nice | 15:07 |
| TravT_ | he's been also working on improving notifications from cinder for searchlight purposes | 15:07 |
| kragniz | awesome! | 15:08 |
| kragniz | (o/ btw) | 15:08 |
| TravT_ | o/ | 15:08 |
| TravT_ | the plugin he's got, he says will work with new notifications and have a fallback to do API callbacks until the notifications are in cinder | 15:09 |
| TravT_ | (unless I mistook something) | 15:09 |
| yingjun | so is it possible to get that Mitaka? | 15:09 |
| TravT_ | that is definitely the goal | 15:09 |
| TravT_ | i know he has a number of things he's juggling, but he says he'll try to have a patch up shortly | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | once lakshmi’s back online i’m hoping to put a swift demo together, although hte notifications are harder in that case | 15:10 |
| TravT_ | #topic swift updates | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "swift updates (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:10 | |
| TravT_ | ^ | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | err, that | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | i’ve been able to consume notifications from swift, but need to find somewhere for the middleware to live | 15:10 |
| TravT_ | yeah, once lakshmi has that patch up, we'll be in a better place to talk to the swift team further | 15:11 |
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| TravT_ | i've been scratching my head of whether or not we should put swift search into that horizon panel or not | 15:11 |
| TravT_ | i know there is effort being discussed to redesign the swift panel in horizon. | 15:12 |
| TravT_ | and i'd like to get them to consider search as part of that. | 15:12 |
| TravT_ | so i'll pursue that. | 15:12 |
| sjmc7 | we’ll have to see how the timing works out | 15:12 |
| TravT_ | by "that horizon panel" i mean the one I created and showed at the summit | 15:12 |
| TravT_ | i've started working a bit on that code again. | 15:13 |
| TravT_ | anyway, next topic i believe, unless you have anything else here sjmc7. I don't see briancline | 15:13 |
| sjmc7 | nope, thats it | 15:14 |
| TravT_ | #topic searchlight client cli | 15:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "searchlight client cli (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:14 | |
| TravT_ | yingjun has been working on it. | 15:14 |
| TravT_ | i owe you a review on the base patch yingjun | 15:15 |
| TravT_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249076/ | 15:15 |
| TravT_ | do you need anything more to do more work? probably some more thoughts on additional commands for it? | 15:15 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, that’s going well. i’l ltry to review those patches as well today | 15:15 |
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| yingjun | i also uploaded a patch for facet list: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249076/ | 15:16 |
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| TravT_ | excellent! | 15:16 |
| TravT_ | As FYI, the group the sjmc7 and I work for is having a face to face meeting most of this week, which has been taking up a fair amount of overhead time | 15:17 |
| TravT_ | it ends tomorrow, so my plan is to catch up on reviews tomorrow. | 15:17 |
| TravT_ | #topic Add searchlight to requirements/projects.txt | 15:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Add searchlight to requirements/projects.txt (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:18 | |
| yingjun | That would be nice! | 15:18 |
| TravT_ | yingjun, this is your topic I believe? | 15:18 |
| yingjun | yes, seems like searchlight is not added in requirements/projects.txt | 15:19 |
| TravT_ | that's interesting. what all is this used for? | 15:20 |
| yingjun | is it missed to adding there or on purpose? | 15:20 |
| TravT_ | it wasn't on purpose. | 15:20 |
| yingjun | http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html#add-project-to-the-requirements-list | 15:21 |
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| sjmc7 | ah, we were wondering about that the other day | 15:21 |
| sjmc7 | the requirements checker | 15:21 |
| TravT_ | ahh, yes | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | looks like you put up a patch for this, yingjun? | 15:22 |
| TravT_ | this would make it so we get the auto proposal bots, right? | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255031/ | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | right | 15:22 |
| yingjun | yes | 15:22 |
| TravT_ | yingjun: thank you | 15:22 |
| TravT_ | there are so many places update that we just missed this one | 15:23 |
| TravT_ | I think we do want it | 15:23 |
| TravT_ | we don't have to accept the auto-proposal bots, but without them, we'll surely fall behind | 15:23 |
| sjmc7 | yep | 15:23 |
| * david-lyle is late | 15:24 | |
| TravT_ | p/ | 15:24 |
| TravT_ | o/ | 15:24 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 15:24 |
| TravT_ | i think we'll need to add the usual suspects as reviewers to that change | 15:24 |
| TravT_ | to get any action on it | 15:24 |
| sjmc7 | i’ve still not been able to get the e-s requirements cap patch through | 15:25 |
| TravT_ | what's the patch #/ | 15:25 |
| TravT_ | ? | 15:25 |
| sjmc7 | oo, wait, i think it did merge | 15:25 |
| TravT_ | i thought Doug +2'd | 15:25 |
| TravT_ | #topic es client version | 15:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "es client version (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:25 | |
| yingjun | the requirements patch did merged | 15:25 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, looks like davanum approved it early this morning | 15:25 |
| TravT_ | oh, then we need to update our requirements | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | or yesterday? that’s what being in meetings all week does :) | 15:26 |
| TravT_ | (since we didn't have the autoproposal on) | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, i can do that | 15:26 |
| yingjun | yeah | 15:26 |
| TravT_ | great | 15:26 |
| david-lyle | because we're no in projects.txt? | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | though i think once it does get turned on it’ll fix everything | 15:26 |
| david-lyle | *not | 15:26 |
| TravT_ | david-lyle: yingjun discovered that yesterday | 15:27 |
| david-lyle | interesting | 15:27 |
| sjmc7 | yeah… SOMEONE (me) forgot to add the repo to projects.txt | 15:27 |
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| TravT_ | he put up a patch | 15:27 |
| TravT_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255031/ | 15:27 |
| TravT_ | let's blame kragniz | 15:27 |
| TravT_ | ;) | 15:28 |
| sjmc7 | :) once that gets approved we should get caught up on anything that’s changed | 15:28 |
| sjmc7 | but i’ll update our local one for the es version | 15:28 |
| TravT_ | will we get caught up? or do we need to manually get it up to date? | 15:28 |
| david-lyle | so were our requirements out of sync for Liberty? | 15:28 |
| david-lyle | might need a backport too | 15:29 |
| TravT_ | david-lyle: hmm... good point | 15:29 |
| david-lyle | well, I guess it wouldn't be a backport | 15:29 |
| sjmc7 | urgh, maybe. i’ll take a look at that too | 15:29 |
| david-lyle | but next thing that changes on stable/liberty/requirements might trigger a larger req proposal | 15:29 |
| david-lyle | might be better to do preemptively and test it out | 15:30 |
| sjmc7 | ok. i’ll file a bug and take a look | 15:30 |
| TravT_ | thx sjmc7 and thx yingjun for catching that and thx david-lyle for thinking about stable/liberty | 15:31 |
| TravT_ | #topic bug review | 15:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bug review (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:31 | |
| TravT_ | I just added a couple reviews up there related to a bug we opened quite awhile back. | 15:32 |
| TravT_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight/+bug/1493975 | 15:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1493975 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "Need separate config sections for api and listener" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Itisha Dewan (ishadewan07) | 15:32 |
| TravT_ | looks like we'll finally get that with the work yingjun is doing. | 15:33 |
| nikhil | reaasign the bug then? | 15:33 |
| TravT_ | yeah i think so | 15:33 |
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| nikhil | i have little ctx | 15:34 |
| TravT_ | so, if anybody can take a look at reviewing them today, would be nice | 15:34 |
| yingjun | so these patches need your reviews: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253973/, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253981/, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255650/ | 15:34 |
| yingjun | :) | 15:34 |
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| nikhil | may be person working can add review to the bug | 15:34 |
| TravT_ | yingjun, can you copy paste that into comments on bug? | 15:34 |
| nikhil | yingjun: ah, pls feel free to add to that bug and assign it to yourself | 15:34 |
| yingjun | ok, i’ll do that | 15:35 |
| TravT_ | the context is basically that searchlight.conf had several options in the [default] group and it wasn't clear if they were used for listener or api | 15:35 |
| TravT_ | or both | 15:35 |
| TravT_ | so we wanted a [listener] and [api] group to clarify that | 15:35 |
| nikhil | TravT_: np, i was looking for newer reviews and ctx for the latest work | 15:36 |
| nikhil | thanks for the info though | 15:36 |
| TravT_ | np | 15:36 |
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| TravT_ | #topic blueprint review | 15:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "blueprint review (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:37 | |
| TravT_ | FYI that Steve and I think we have come up with a good solution for limiting the ability to search admin fields. | 15:37 |
| TravT_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245357/ | 15:38 |
| TravT_ | I think it is good enough to approve at this point and can be updated later if needed | 15:38 |
| TravT_ | remember, our specs aren't intended to be 100% detailed design docs | 15:39 |
| TravT_ | so if others can look at it, would be appreciated | 15:39 |
| TravT_ | sjmc7 and i also spent time yesterday whiteboarding on zero downtime indexing (since he's here this week due to other "overhead" meetings) | 15:40 |
| TravT_ | david-lyle: we'll be doing some more today probably if you'd be up for driving across town | 15:40 |
| TravT_ | i'll update that spec though. | 15:41 |
| david-lyle | I will likely be down there later in the afternoon | 15:42 |
| TravT_ | ok, i'll ping you on irc later | 15:42 |
| david-lyle | TravT_: sure | 15:42 |
| TravT_ | we didn't know if we'd get any time to do actual work while he was here, and just lucked out and manage a little yesterday | 15:43 |
| TravT_ | next up, there is a spec on notification forwarding to zaqar | 15:43 |
| TravT_ | that has quite a bit of dialog | 15:43 |
| TravT_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246220/ | 15:43 |
| TravT_ | i need to read latest | 15:43 |
| TravT_ | i think we'll also want flwang (zaqar PTL) to comment again | 15:44 |
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| TravT_ | #topic open discussion | 15:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:45 | |
| TravT_ | Anything else to talk about? | 15:45 |
| sjmc7 | don’t think i had anything else | 15:45 |
| TravT_ | thanks kragniz, david-lyle, yingjun, rosmaita, nikhil, sjmc7! | 15:46 |
| rosmaita | reading through the admin search spec now | 15:47 |
| TravT_ | rosmaita: ok, cool should we wait around | 15:47 |
| yingjun | no from me | 15:47 |
| rosmaita | if you have a minute | 15:47 |
| TravT_ | sure | 15:47 |
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| rosmaita | looks like my questions are being answered at the bottom of the doc, though | 15:47 |
| TravT_ | the current proposed change was an alternative brought up in patch set 2 | 15:48 |
| TravT_ | so, the original proposed change is now an alternative | 15:48 |
| * TravT_ will be quiet and let rosmaita think | 15:49 | |
| rosmaita | ty! | 15:49 |
| rosmaita | i remember the prior discussion about the 2 indices (indexes?) | 15:49 |
| sjmc7 | yeah - i was persuaded that was a bad idea from a maintenance perspective | 15:50 |
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| rosmaita | i think the 2 doc solution is pretty clever | 15:50 |
| sjmc7 | it’s quite similar this way | 15:50 |
| rosmaita | def better than trying to modify the queries, i think | 15:50 |
| sjmc7 | except that instead of an index seperation it’s a filter applied to queries (or aliases) | 15:50 |
| TravT_ | yeah it is based on this: | 15:51 |
| TravT_ | https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/indices-aliases.html#filtered | 15:51 |
| sjmc7 | i’ve tested a prototype, and it works fine | 15:52 |
| sjmc7 | it has the advantage of allowing more than one role, potentially | 15:52 |
| TravT_ | to api users of ES, it looks like they are talking to a regular index | 15:52 |
| sjmc7 | sorry,more than two roles | 15:52 |
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| TravT_ | but really they are talking to an alias in ES that automatically applies a filter | 15:53 |
| rosmaita | sjmc7: i was thinking that, too (about the multiple roles) | 15:53 |
| rosmaita | it's extensible! | 15:53 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah.. not that i necessarily forsee that happening, but it’s there. it’s also much easier from an operator perspective | 15:53 |
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| TravT_ | ok, just a couple minutes left | 15:57 |
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| TravT_ | rosmaita: i'll be in the room shortly | 15:58 |
| rosmaita | TravT_: i'm done | 15:59 |
| TravT_ | i have to transfer to the office | 15:59 |
| TravT_ | ok. | 15:59 |
| TravT_ | thanks for looking through it | 15:59 |
| rosmaita | i +2 but didn't +A | 15:59 |
| sjmc7 | thanks rosmaita | 15:59 |
| rosmaita | np, nice spec sjmc7 | 15:59 |
| TravT_ | ok, will give others a bit more to look through | 15:59 |
| TravT_ | thanks everybody | 15:59 |
| rosmaita | yeah, just in case, but i think it's a good proposal | 16:00 |
| TravT_ | have a good rest of your day / night | 16:00 |
| TravT_ | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 10 16:00:26 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-12-10-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-12-10-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-12-10-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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| odyssey4me | #startmeeting OpenStack Ansible Meeting | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 10 16:02:37 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is odyssey4me. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack Ansible Meeting)" | 16:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible_meeting' | 16:02 |
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| prometheanfire | hi | 16:02 |
| cloudnull | o/ | 16:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | moo | 16:02 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Agenda & rollcall | 16:02 |
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| palendae | o/ | 16:03 |
| odyssey4me | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 16:03 |
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| cloudnull | presente | 16:04 |
| KLevenstein | o/ | 16:04 |
| njohnston | o/ | 16:04 |
| javeriak_ | o/ | 16:05 |
| prometheanfire | 0/ | 16:05 |
| jreeves | o/ | 16:06 |
| odyssey4me | welcome everyone - no action items from last week, so we can head onwards | 16:06 |
| Bjoern_ | o/ | 16:07 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Topics for Discussion | 16:07 |
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| odyssey4me | #topic Independent repository for plugins and libraries | 16:07 |
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| * odyssey4me hands the mic to cloudnull | 16:07 | |
| cloudnull | hi | 16:07 |
| cloudnull | so i would like to know how we should handle libs and plugins | 16:08 |
| cloudnull | within our new independent role repos approach | 16:08 |
| cloudnull | lots of the roles need access to the libs | 16:08 |
| cloudnull | and i'd like to not copy them all over the place | 16:08 |
| palendae | You're talking about the openstack service libs? Would a logical place be their associated role? | 16:09 |
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| cloudnull | at present i've been doing this https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-galera_server/blob/master/tests/ansible-role-requirements.yml#L1-L4 | 16:09 |
| cloudnull | palendae: the keystone, neutron, etc | 16:09 |
| cloudnull | for ansible | 16:09 |
| odyssey4me | palendae if they're only used by that role, yes - but we have cross-role libs | 16:09 |
| javeriak_ | what kind of plugins are we talking about, service plugins? | 16:09 |
| cloudnull | javeriak_: https://github.com/os-cloud/openstack-ansible-plugins | 16:10 |
| cloudnull | those ones | 16:10 |
| palendae | Ah, right, we have them up higher now so Ansible can see them across the roles | 16:10 |
| cloudnull | which is a collection of https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/tree/master/playbooks/library and https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/tree/master/playbooks/plugins | 16:10 |
| palendae | Dependencies could help with that, no? | 16:10 |
| cloudnull | palendae: ansible doesnt have deps for libs and plugins sadly | 16:10 |
| palendae | cloudnull: I thought you could put a lib/plugin in a role and it'd be counted through role deps | 16:11 |
| palendae | Or does their lookup not account for that? | 16:11 |
| cloudnull | so we can submodule or do something similar to what i've done in the role requirements file | 16:11 |
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| cloudnull | palendae: we can add it to a role | 16:11 |
| cloudnull | but then we have to add it to all the roles | 16:11 |
| palendae | Ok | 16:11 |
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| cloudnull | or submodule etc | 16:11 |
| palendae | So it's scoped to the role | 16:11 |
| cloudnull | yes | 16:11 |
| javeriak_ | cloudnull, you're also trying to upstream the genetric ones to ansible i believe | 16:11 |
| palendae | Ansible won't use it's role deps to search for libs | 16:12 |
| cloudnull | javeriak_: yes | 16:12 |
| odyssey4me | the advantage of using https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-galera_server/blob/master/tests/ansible-role-requirements.yml#L1-L4 to me is that we never have to manage submodules in each of the repositories... we can fix to a sha if we want to, but don't have to | 16:12 |
| cloudnull | so we have to have a place to put them if the new independent roles are to be used as stand alone roles | 16:12 |
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| cloudnull | So I wanted to poll everyone and see what they thought was best. | 16:13 |
| cloudnull | Submodule, ansible role requires , other? | 16:13 |
| odyssey4me | my initial feel was that perhaps we could do thing differently (eg: make the utility container to interact with keystone, neutron, etc) to isolate where the libraries are needed... but we need the config_template library everywhere... so that's off the table | 16:14 |
| BjoernT | are we caching those roles on the repo server ? | 16:14 |
| cloudnull | We also need the other plugins throughout the stack | 16:14 |
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| cloudnull | Bjoernt no. The libs and plugins exist within the main git tree | 16:15 |
| palendae | I think the role-requirements file makes sense | 16:15 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull yep, there are some others that are needed... and while we should endeavour to upstream them, we also need the flexibility of having them around as an interim step to allow us to keep moving forward | 16:15 |
| prometheanfire | so, vendoring? | 16:16 |
| javeriak_ | using ansible role requirements seems like the cleaner approach to me; but that would incur maintaining a seperate repository for these now | 16:16 |
| cloudnull | So I'm good with whatever we deem is best. I just would like a group consensus. | 16:16 |
| BjoernT | I would prefer anything over git submodule :-) | 16:16 |
| cloudnull | Javeriak_ yes it would. | 16:16 |
| cloudnull | I've not proposed the new repo yet because I wasn't sure what to do with them. | 16:17 |
| prometheanfire | I personally prefer using the role reqs as well | 16:17 |
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| javeriak_ | well the OSA project is growing, like the others, we will at some point have to separate sub-repos | 16:17 |
| odyssey4me | shall we do a vote? | 16:18 |
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| odyssey4me | although, there are no objections to the role reqs approach so far... do we need to bother voting? | 16:18 |
| odyssey4me | are there any specific objections to the role reqs approach? | 16:18 |
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| javeriak_ | aw... i was hoping to see the vote bot again... | 16:18 |
| cloudnull | Hahaha | 16:18 |
| palendae | javeriak_: Yeah, I'm not super happy about more repos, but at the same time, we're going to be making a lot of repos anyway, a single one's probably not that big of a deal in that case | 16:19 |
| cloudnull | Odyssey4me .doit() | 16:19 |
| prometheanfire | cloudnull: .net? | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | heh, ok | 16:19 |
| javeriak_ | palendae agreed | 16:19 |
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| odyssey4me | #vote Shall we use the role requirements approach for plugins & libs? yes, no | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | bah, I'm no good at this | 16:20 |
| palendae | #vote yes | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | #startvote Shall we use the role requirements approach for plugins & libs? yes, no | 16:20 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Shall we use the role requirements approach for plugins & libs? Valid vote options are yes, no. | 16:20 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 16:20 |
| palendae | #vote yes | 16:20 |
| palendae | #vote yes | 16:20 |
| cloudnull | #vote yes | 16:20 |
| javeriak_ | #vote yes | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | #vote yes | 16:20 |
| prometheanfire | #vote yes | 16:20 |
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| cloudnull | Somebody vote no just because. ;-) | 16:21 |
| BjoernT | #vote yes | 16:21 |
| prometheanfire | one of us one of us | 16:21 |
| prometheanfire | cloudnull: you're someone | 16:21 |
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| cloudnull | I'm nobody. | 16:21 |
| andymccr | #vote no | 16:21 |
| andymccr | boom | 16:21 |
| cloudnull | Hahaha ! | 16:22 |
| odyssey4me | #endvote | 16:22 |
| openstack | Voted on "Shall we use the role requirements approach for plugins & libs?" Results are | 16:22 |
| openstack | yes (6): palendae, odyssey4me, BjoernT, prometheanfire, cloudnull, javeriak_ | 16:22 |
| openstack | no (1): andymccr | 16:22 |
| cloudnull | Andymccr for prez! | 16:22 |
| andymccr | I'm a visionary | 16:22 |
| odyssey4me | lol | 16:22 |
| BjoernT | or terrorist | 16:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | andymccr: trump | 16:22 |
| odyssey4me | right, another question was whether we do one repo or two | 16:22 |
| cloudnull | OK I'm done. | 16:22 |
| andymccr | i'll be proved right in 2 weeks time!! | 16:22 |
| javeriak_ | that was fun :), i know what my fav part of these meetings is now.. | 16:22 |
| andymccr | (or we'll all forget that i said anything) | 16:22 |
| cloudnull | I think the single new repo is the best approach. | 16:23 |
| javeriak_ | yep, more is usually harder to maintain.. | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, after reviewing https://github.com/ansible/ansible/blob/devel/lib/ansible/constants.py I see that there are no defaults paths in /etc/ansible for plugins or libraries... so I'm happy with a single repo and the paths referenced in ansible.cfg | 16:24 |
| cloudnull | I would also like to limit the repo sprawl. | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | some of the roles could possible consolidate ;) | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | but that's another story, let's not go there | 16:25 |
| palendae | cloudnull: We could put them all in one repo! :) | 16:25 |
| javeriak_ | would the new repo be under /openstack too? | 16:25 |
| palendae | javeriak_: I believe so, cloudnull's got stuff in to the infra team to create them | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | palendae the new repositories are already there | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | https://github.com/openstack/?utf8=%E2%9C%93&query=openstack-ansible | 16:26 |
| palendae | Cool | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | all the way through to 'setup-infrastructure' is there - the next roles to move over are the openstack roles | 16:27 |
| javeriak_ | wow... | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | each role has testing focused on that specific role, so the feedback time is much shorter | 16:27 |
| cloudnull | Yup. Once https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255921/ goes through its off to the openstack roles. | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | ok, so one repo it is - unless there are any objections within the next two mins | 16:28 |
| javeriak_ | btw is the documentation in place, the deployment flow will change now i believe? | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | (one repo for the plugins and libs) | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | javeriak_ the deployment flow doesn't actually change - the entry points are the same | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | where stuff goes changes | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | the result is also the same | 16:30 |
| javeriak_ | so we're still cloning openstack-ansible and role-requirements will pull in the rest | 16:30 |
| cloudnull | Yes | 16:30 |
| odyssey4me | yep | 16:30 |
| javeriak_ | ok cool | 16:30 |
| cloudnull | The change is simply where the role code lives in terms of a full stack deployment. | 16:30 |
| odyssey4me | what's also nice is that each role's individual test method shows how to consume them without the dynamic inventory | 16:30 |
| odyssey4me | but yeah, I would like to spend some time beefing up each role's docs a bit - as developer orientated documentation | 16:31 |
| cloudnull | We will also be able to create role specific docs. In the future. | 16:31 |
| cloudnull | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStackAnsible | 16:32 |
| cloudnull | I updated it yesterday for the roles we split out. | 16:32 |
| cloudnull | But I'll need to add the new ones. | 16:32 |
| logan- | with IRR are the roles going to be pulled in to /etc/ansible/roles during bootstrap-ansible like the role-requirements currently work? | 16:32 |
| cloudnull | Role docs are limited currently. | 16:32 |
| odyssey4me | logan- yes | 16:33 |
| logan- | ok thanks | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | ok, next topic | 16:36 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Mid Cycle Meetup | 16:36 |
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| odyssey4me | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/081847.html | 16:36 |
| odyssey4me | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2015-December/009154.html | 16:36 |
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| odyssey4me | Please can we have everyone respond to the email indicating your interest. | 16:38 |
| odyssey4me | This doesn't have to be considered a firm RSVP, so don't worry about that - it's just simply a 'are you interested?' email. | 16:38 |
| cloudnull | ++ replied already | 16:38 |
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| cloudnull | next! | 16:41 |
| odyssey4me | alright, | 16:42 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Open discussion | 16:42 |
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| odyssey4me | Other than the call for input in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting we have nothing further planned | 16:42 |
| odyssey4me | is there anything specific anyone would like to discuss? | 16:42 |
| odyssey4me | heh, a quiet bunch today then :) | 16:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | yep | 16:44 |
| palendae | I've got nothing else | 16:44 |
| prometheanfire | odyssey4me: hi | 16:44 |
| prometheanfire | you said to bring this up thursday | 16:44 |
| prometheanfire | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253702/ | 16:45 |
| odyssey4me | ah yes, sure | 16:46 |
| * odyssey4me hands prometheanfire the mic | 16:46 | |
| prometheanfire | the patch pulls comments out, stored in an ordered list, then inserts them before the regenerated 'data' | 16:46 |
| prometheanfire | it's useful for commented out key value options and general notes people leave in the config | 16:47 |
| prometheanfire | I've brought it up with support and they liked it, major isn't here but he did as well | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | what is the purpose of it, considering that the returned data is unordered | 16:48 |
| BjoernT | how do you separate from a comment or deactivated tokens which have been added for testing ? | 16:48 |
| odyssey4me | ie a comment about a line below will no longer be above the line | 16:48 |
| odyssey4me | this only ever matters when the pwgen is run, which I expect is not often | 16:49 |
| odyssey4me | so I really just don't see the point... this just seems like dev work done to solve no problem | 16:49 |
| odyssey4me | so, personally, I'd like to understand the problem this is trying to solve | 16:50 |
| palendae | Yeah, I can get why someone might like to keep comments associated with the given line, but this doesn't appear to do that | 16:50 |
| odyssey4me | ^ that | 16:50 |
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| palendae | From just glancing over the code, it drops the comments at the top of the file | 16:51 |
| odyssey4me | also, I don't see why someone would want to run pwgen more than once | 16:51 |
| odyssey4me | if it is, there's always a backup | 16:51 |
| odyssey4me | if anything, I'd say there may be value in keeping datestamped backups | 16:51 |
| prometheanfire | it keeps a backup of the file it overwrites? | 16:52 |
| cloudnull | thats already there | 16:52 |
| prometheanfire | that'd be better | 16:52 |
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| odyssey4me | yes it does | 16:52 |
| prometheanfire | ok | 16:52 |
| palendae | Yeah, we already have backed up copies of files | 16:52 |
| cloudnull | anytime there is a change in the file it writes the old one to a backup | 16:52 |
| prometheanfire | abandoned | 16:52 |
| odyssey4me | so it only keeps one tarballed backup - I can see value in perhaps having 5 backups, datetimestamped or something | 16:53 |
| palendae | I'd be interested to see if there's a change that associates a line with it's comments, but the way the yaml dump works would make that difficult | 16:53 |
| palendae | its* | 16:53 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, hardly worth the effort | 16:53 |
| prometheanfire | close associated bug as well? | 16:53 |
| odyssey4me | I think the right approach for config storage anyway is to use something like git to keep history | 16:53 |
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| odyssey4me | prometheanfire yep, please | 16:53 |
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| odyssey4me | anything else - we have 5 mins? | 16:55 |
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| odyssey4me | alright, that seems to be it | 16:57 |
| odyssey4me | thank you everyone! | 16:57 |
| odyssey4me | #endmeeting | 16:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 10 16:57:55 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-12-10-16.02.html | 16:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-12-10-16.02.txt | 16:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-12-10-16.02.log.html | 16:58 |
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| vikram_ | no networking-sfc meeting today? | 17:05 |
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| pcarver | vikram_: I'm here, but was waiting for Cathy | 17:05 |
| vikram_ | pcarver: ok | 17:05 |
| pcarver | I was on a voice conference call that ran late, but just ended this minute. But I don't really have an agenda to cover for SFC meeting if we don't have a quorum. | 17:06 |
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| vikram_ | nothing from my side either | 17:08 |
| vikram_ | mohan_kumar: do you have anything? | 17:08 |
| mohan_kumar | vikram_ , nope | 17:08 |
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| pcarver | Actually I have one thing, but probably doesn't constute a meeting. Have either of you tested out the new install instructions that Cathy provided? | 17:10 |
| pcarver | I haven't, but that's next on my list. | 17:10 |
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| igordcard_ | hi all | 17:11 |
| igordcard_ | I haven't yet tested because the flow classifier isn't yet up | 17:11 |
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| s3wong | why is the meeting topic "openstack-vahana"? | 17:11 |
| vikram_ | s3wong: no one has started it | 17:12 |
| pcarver | s3wong: Cathy isn't here. We haven't decided yet whether we have a quorum to start a meeting. | 17:12 |
| mohan_kumar | pcarver , i too not tried | 17:12 |
| pcarver | maybe we should | 17:12 |
| vikram_ | yes | 17:12 |
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| vikram_ | pcarver: can you chair? | 17:12 |
| LouisF | #startmeeting networking-sfc | 17:12 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 10 17:12:33 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:12 |
| s3wong | LouisF is here | 17:12 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking-sfc)" | 17:12 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_sfc' | 17:12 |
| vikram_ | thank god we got LouisF | 17:12 |
| LouisF | hi all | 17:12 |
| s3wong | nice :-) | 17:12 |
| LouisF | sorry traffic | 17:12 |
| s3wong | finally not "openstack-vahana" :-) | 17:13 |
| vikram_ | no worries ;) | 17:13 |
| pcarver | LouisF: I think that's the wrong meeting name | 17:13 |
| pcarver | thinking about logs here, I think it's supposed to be service_chaining | 17:13 |
| s3wong | service-chaing? | 17:13 |
| johnsom | o/ | 17:13 |
| s3wong | * chaining | 17:13 |
| LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:13 |
| openstack | LouisF: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 17:13 |
| LouisF | #endmeeting | 17:13 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 10 17:13:46 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:13 |
| LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:13 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_sfc/2015/networking_sfc.2015-12-10-17.12.html | 17:13 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_sfc/2015/networking_sfc.2015-12-10-17.12.txt | 17:13 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_sfc/2015/networking_sfc.2015-12-10-17.12.log.html | 17:13 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 10 17:13:49 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:13 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:13 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:13 |
| pcarver | ok, that's better | 17:14 |
| LouisF | hi all | 17:14 |
| vikram_ | hey LouisF | 17:14 |
| LouisF | cathy is away today | 17:14 |
| johnsom | o/ | 17:14 |
| LouisF | agenda topics? | 17:14 |
| s3wong | hello | 17:14 |
| pcarver | LouisF: I think the main topic is still installation. I haven't tried Cathy's new instructions, but I'd like to hear who has. | 17:15 |
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| pcarver | I think we should try to merge a devstack change if it's working consistently for people. | 17:15 |
| LouisF | pcarver: agree | 17:15 |
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| pcarver | oh, another topic I wanted to raise is database table naming. I'm wondering if we should group everything together with an sfc prefix | 17:16 |
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| pcarver | e.g. like the ml2 tables are | 17:17 |
| LouisF | pcarver: can you suggest an example | 17:18 |
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| LouisF | #topic installation | 17:18 |
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| LouisF | has anyone tried the latest devstack? | 17:19 |
| pcarver | LouisF: example related to the devstack installation topic or the table naming topic | 17:19 |
| LouisF | pcarver: latter lets defer though | 17:19 |
| pcarver | let's talk devstack first. Who has tried Cathy's latest instructions as posted to the wiki and were you successfult? | 17:20 |
| LouisF | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/ServiceInsertionAndChaining | 17:20 |
| igordcard_ | I haven't as I'm waiting for the flow classifier | 17:21 |
| mohan_kumar | LouisF, Flowclassifier changes are done ? | 17:21 |
| LouisF | mohan_kumar, igordcard_ the flow classifier should work currently | 17:22 |
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| mohan_kumar | LouisF , okay | 17:23 |
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| igordcard_ | LouisF: where are the flow classifier methods' implementation? | 17:23 |
| igordcard_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233858/15/networking_sfc/services/flowclassifier/plugin.py | 17:24 |
| LouisF | igordcard_: they are implemented in agent.py | 17:24 |
| vikram_ | LouisF: We need to have it in plugin.py as well | 17:24 |
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| vikram_ | LouisF: Might be required by other drivers | 17:24 |
| igordcard_ | LouisF: so then this file should implement the methods right? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227100/30/networking_sfc/services/sfc/plugin.py | 17:25 |
| LouisF | vikram_: agree for other drivers | 17:25 |
| pcarver | I don't see the wiki instructions fetching 233858 or 253679 (the latest devstack change) | 17:25 |
| vikram_ | LouisF: Is the changes done? Can't find them | 17:25 |
| LouisF | igordcard_: yes | 17:25 |
| LouisF | vikram_: which chnage are you refering to? | 17:26 |
| pcarver | so do the wiki instructions include flow classifier by some other means? Or does following those instructions leave out the fc? | 17:26 |
| vikram_ | LouisF: adding FC interfaces in plugin.py | 17:26 |
| LouisF | pcarver: the wiki will install the agent that implements the FC | 17:27 |
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| vikram_ | LouisF: As pointed out earlier some drivers may required FC's notifications as they come | 17:27 |
| igordcard_ | vikram_: +1 | 17:27 |
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| vikram_ | LouisF: I think we discussed this before | 17:27 |
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| vikram_ | LouisF: but could not find the code for it.. so just wondering | 17:28 |
| LouisF | vikram_: agree will add to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233858/15/networking_sfc/services/flowclassifier/plugin.py | 17:28 |
| vikram_ | LouisF: ok | 17:28 |
| igordcard_ | LouisF: :) | 17:28 |
| LouisF | but that is not required for the ovs driver implementation | 17:28 |
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| igordcard_ | LouisF: I don't see how it receives the signals from the API.. | 17:29 |
| LouisF | to implement the port chain and associated classifiers the OVS agent queries the DB to get the FC info | 17:30 |
| LouisF | then sets up the appropriate flows | 17:30 |
| vikram_ | LouisF:+1 | 17:31 |
| igordcard_ | oh, okay | 17:31 |
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| LouisF | set _parse_flow_classifier in agent.py | 17:32 |
| LouisF | see | 17:32 |
| LouisF | back on topic I will update the wiki to include latest devstack | 17:33 |
| LouisF | then please try the install procedure | 17:33 |
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| mohan_kumar | LouisF , sounds good ! | 17:34 |
| igordcard_ | LouisF: quick doubt, this should work with ingress=egress port pairs right? | 17:34 |
| LouisF | igordcard_: yes it will, we have tested that | 17:34 |
| igordcard_ | LouisF: thanks | 17:35 |
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| LouisF | once a chain has been created dump flows should show | 17:37 |
| LouisF | cookie=0x97c3b95c3db61742, duration=76753.949s, table=0, n_packets=4911361, n_bytes=481313378, idle_age=0, hard_age=65534, priority=10,ip,nw_src=10.0.0.15,nw_dst=10.0.0.7 actions=push_mpls:0x8847,load:0x100ff->OXM_OF_MPLS_LABEL[],set_mpls_ttl(255),output:36 cookie=0x97c3b95c3db61742, duration=85074.214s, table=0, n_packets=5007569, n_bytes=490745445, idle_age=0, hard_age=65534, priority=10,mpls actions=resubmit(,5) cooki | 17:37 |
| LouisF | on br-int | 17:37 |
| LouisF | cookie=0x97c3b95c3db61742, duration=85074.214s, table=0, n_packets=5007569, n_bytes=490745445, idle_age=0, hard_age=65534, priority=10,mpls actions=resubmit(,5) | 17:38 |
| LouisF | cookie=0x97c3b95c3db61742, duration=76753.885s, table=5, n_packets=4911360, n_bytes=481313280, idle_age=0, hard_age=65534, priority=1,mpls,dl_dst=fa:16:3e:07:71:2b,mpls_label=65791 actions=pop_mpls:0x0800,output:3 | 17:39 |
| igordcard_ | LouisF: looks good, thanks for the paste | 17:40 |
| LouisF | i will post these on the wiki | 17:40 |
| mohan_kumar | Louis, add the steps you followed for enable traffic dumps as well | 17:40 |
| mohan_kumar | on service VMs | 17:41 |
| LouisF | ok | 17:41 |
| LouisF | sudo tcpdump -eni qvo7e79c62d-23 | 17:42 |
| LouisF | ok please try installation procedure on wiki | 17:43 |
| mohan_kumar | LouisF , Thanks | 17:43 |
| LouisF | #topic database naming | 17:43 |
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| LouisF | pcarver: can you give an example | 17:44 |
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| pcarver | LouisF: so if you do "show tables;" in the database, the SFC tables are scattered around | 17:45 |
| pcarver | if you look at the list of tables, on the other hand you'll see that all the ml2 table names start with ml2_ | 17:45 |
| pcarver | NSX and Nuage tables start with nsxv_ and nuage_ respectively | 17:45 |
| pcarver | I'm wondering whether there's a concern over "polluting" the database namespace | 17:46 |
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| pcarver | should we have sfc_port_chains and sfc_flow_classifiers so that all the SFC tables are together in the listing | 17:47 |
| pcarver | and so that it's clear which tables are part of the SFC sub-project as opposed to core Neutron or some other sub-project or extension | 17:47 |
| LouisF | pcarver: agree that would help | 17:48 |
| LouisF | others? | 17:48 |
| pcarver | anyone else have an opinion? | 17:48 |
| pcarver | I didn't post this to a review because I wanted to get input from the team first | 17:49 |
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| mohan_kumar | pcarver, +1 . It's good to have common prefix , i too thought once | 17:49 |
| LouisF | pcarver: we no dissenting voices ... | 17:50 |
| LouisF | we have | 17:50 |
| pcarver | if there are no objections, I'm going to post this to the DB related files on review.o.o | 17:50 |
| LouisF | pcarver: ok | 17:50 |
| pcarver | a nuisance to rename all the tables I suppose, but I think we'll be happier in the long run | 17:51 |
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| LouisF | we can do that but we reallt need to focus on getting installation tested and the implementation evaluated on as many testbeds as possible | 17:52 |
| LouisF | ok any other questions, topics? | 17:53 |
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| LouisF | going, going... | 17:54 |
| LouisF | thanks all | 17:54 |
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| LouisF | bye | 17:54 |
| mohan_kumar | Bye | 17:54 |
| pcarver | bye | 17:54 |
| LouisF | @endmeeting | 17:54 |
| LouisF | #endmeeting | 17:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 10 17:55:00 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2015/service_chaining.2015-12-10-17.13.html | 17:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2015/service_chaining.2015-12-10-17.13.txt | 17:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2015/service_chaining.2015-12-10-17.13.log.html | 17:55 |
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| barrett | #startmeeting Openstack Diversity Working Group | 18:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 10 18:04:26 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is barrett. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_diversity_working_group' | 18:04 |
| barrett | Hi folks - let's start with roll call | 18:04 |
| barrett | #topic roll call | 18:05 |
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| barrett | Anyone here for the Diversity WG team meeting? | 18:06 |
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| rockyg | o/ | 18:08 |
| barrett | Hi Rockyg | 18:08 |
| rockyg | Hey ;-) | 18:09 |
| barrett | I put a note in the openstack-diversity channel to redirect people here.... | 18:09 |
| barrett | Not sure we have a quorum to get anything done today. | 18:09 |
| rockyg | Good question. | 18:09 |
| barrett | Is Cindy Pallares here? | 18:09 |
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| barrett | RockyG - Think we should wrap this one up for now. Next team meeting at this time will be Jan 7th. | 18:12 |
| rockyg | Sounds good to me. | 18:12 |
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| rockyg | Talk to you Monday in the next meeting? | 18:12 |
| barrett | Sounds good - enjoy your weekend! | 18:13 |
| rockyg | You, too! | 18:13 |
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| barrett | Thanks | 18:13 |
| barrett | #endmeeting | 18:13 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 10 18:13:56 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:13 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_diversity_working_group/2015/openstack_diversity_working_group.2015-12-10-18.04.html | 18:14 |
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