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| nikhil | ativelkov: mfedosin: flaper87 sigmavirus24_awa: meeting today? | 14:01 |
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| ativelkov | anybody here for the artifacts subteam meeting? | 14:01 |
| nikhil | #startmeeting glance_artifacts_sub_team | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 5 14:01:46 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance_artifacts_sub_team)" | 14:01 | |
| ativelkov | o/ | 14:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance_artifacts_sub_team' | 14:01 |
| nikhil | #chair ativelkov | 14:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: ativelkov nikhil | 14:01 |
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| ativelkov | Hi folks | 14:02 |
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| nikhil | #topic agenda | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: glance_artifacts_sub_team)" | 14:02 | |
| nikhil | ativelkov: there's no specific agenda today | 14:03 |
| ativelkov | We don't have much of agenda today (as usual), but I have a topic to discuss | 14:03 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 14:03 |
| mfedosin | hey | 14:03 |
| nikhil | so, I think we should just set topics as per the discussion items | 14:03 |
| nikhil | ativelkov: cool | 14:03 |
| ativelkov | #topic v3 api interoperability | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "v3 api interoperability (Meeting topic: glance_artifacts_sub_team)" | 14:03 | |
| ativelkov | Thanks to jokke_ for giving me some hints on this last week | 14:03 |
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| ativelkov | As far as I understood, there are major problems with our v3 API proposal, as it as kind of a dynamic API (i.e. it is plugin-based), and defCore has some serious objections against such solutions, as the clouds with plugin-based APIs are actually not interoperable | 14:05 |
| ativelkov | This means that we are unable to have a public API which depends on some plugins to be enabled | 14:06 |
| nikhil | It depends on who can plugin into the code struct | 14:06 |
| ativelkov | In my understanding it's the deployer who installs the plugins | 14:07 |
| nikhil | if we can add plugins to glance for extensibility for supporting diff data assets then I think we can debate on it | 14:07 |
| nikhil | for deployer scenario we would have issues | 14:07 |
| mfedosin | I think the problem is plugin can implement its own apis and data schemes | 14:08 |
| ativelkov | mfedosin: the overall API structure remains the same, but particular data schemas - yes, they differ from plugin to plugin | 14:08 |
| mfedosin | and we have to normalize them to be more identical | 14:09 |
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| ativelkov | nikhil: so, do you mean that we may "bundle" some of the plugins as part of the glance distribution, so it remains kind of static from defCore's point of view? | 14:09 |
| mfedosin | ativelkov, and no... plugin can: first, add its own custom logic (which is new api calls); and second, reimplement the existing methods | 14:10 |
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| ativelkov | mfedosin: re-implementation is not an issue, as it does not affect API | 14:11 |
| ativelkov | mfedosin: what do you mean by "new API calls"? | 14:11 |
| ativelkov | actions? | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | like 'action/import' | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | yes | 14:12 |
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| ativelkov | Ok, so this needs to be discussed more | 14:12 |
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| mfedosin | and plugin can re-implement, for example, 'list' call and the way it returns data | 14:13 |
| nikhil | ativelkov: I think people think about defcore in a weird way possibly as things aren't very clear | 14:13 |
| nikhil | ativelkov: DefCore wants a standard way for some major actions for a particular service to be interop | 14:13 |
| ativelkov | nikhil: right, and I don't know how to make it more clear | 14:13 |
| mfedosin | in Images plugin v1 we will have 'extra_properties' in response, but in Images v2 - custom properties will be the part of base Image | 14:14 |
| nikhil | if plugin give more of a optional way to do things that are cloud specific then it's not a big deal | 14:14 |
| nikhil | best example is the tasks.. that API isn't going away and the optional flows that can be done still remain cloud specific. Just that a standard minimum viable use case needs to be clarified by a interop API for upload. | 14:15 |
| nikhil | So, in case of artifacts we should have some standardization of the APIs for say CRUD | 14:15 |
| ativelkov | Well, from my point of view, the most important thing is that the plugins are defined by particular openstack components which are going to use glance v3 as their backend to store artifacts | 14:15 |
| nikhil | all other misc operations like import (Advanced create, version changes etc) can be plugin specific) | 14:16 |
| ativelkov | nikhil: cool | 14:16 |
| ativelkov | so, we may say that the plugins define component specific API which is kind of private for the cloud, i.e. it affects only the component which is going to use that plugin | 14:17 |
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| nikhil | I think we can start with that | 14:17 |
| ativelkov | OK. | 14:17 |
| ativelkov | But this rises another question | 14:17 |
| nikhil | ativelkov: how far are we to the plan for customizing data schema? | 14:18 |
| nikhil | ativelkov: oops, you go first | 14:18 |
| ativelkov | So, if we have a "common CRUD" API | 14:18 |
| mfedosin | how can we list 'all' artifacts? :) | 14:18 |
| ativelkov | yup | 14:19 |
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| ativelkov | so, say, we have a GET /v3/artifacts/all call | 14:19 |
| mfedosin | if they are stored in different tables | 14:19 |
| ativelkov | which is supposed to return some generic list of artifacts, including Images | 14:19 |
| ativelkov | In the etherpad I've shared earlier we supposed to be able to redefine the database access layers on a per-plugin basis | 14:20 |
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| ativelkov | But this would not allow us to have a single access point to all the artifacts | 14:20 |
| nikhil | curious why not? | 14:21 |
| ativelkov | how would you list (with marker-based pagination) objects from different DB tables? | 14:21 |
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| ativelkov | Even a single get-by-id is tricky, but at least you may iterate all the enabled plugins, until you get an artifact, which is inefficient, but at least doable | 14:22 |
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| nikhil | ativelkov: um, I am not seeing how complex of a pagination you are thinking. However, for a standard multi-marker (one marker per artifact type situation) we can just make calls to the underlying tables and return as a part of single call. | 14:23 |
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| nikhil | ativelkov: yes, the case that you describe is pretty inefficient | 14:23 |
| nikhil | ativelkov: so, I think the cloud would have to use some sort of rate limiting proxies to expose such calls publicly | 14:24 |
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| nikhil | ativelkov: and I think for discovery we rather offload the work to searchlight | 14:24 |
| ativelkov | "one marker per artifact type" - this looks a bit dirty, as it leaks the abstraction through the API | 14:24 |
| ativelkov | what do you mean by discovery? | 14:25 |
| nikhil | that was the main motivation behind that project -- even in images once your table grows beyond a point discovery becomes pretty slow | 14:25 |
| ativelkov | you mean complex searches? | 14:25 |
| mfedosin | nikhil, there is a question, is it hard to migrate current image tables in db to be more artifactized? i.e. move min_ram and etc. to properties | 14:25 |
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| nikhil | ativelkov: the 'all' call comes in "discovery of artifacts" concept | 14:25 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: I think so yes. We would have to implement some fine grained CRUD restrictions on artifacts properties to keep images immutable prop as so. | 14:26 |
| ativelkov | Well, the problem is that searchlite is an optional component, and we cannot expect all the clouds to have it | 14:26 |
| mfedosin | hmm, in that case many tough problems are easy solvable... | 14:27 |
| ativelkov | so, we need some solution which will provide at least limited listing capabilities in a regular glance v3 api, without doing elastic search | 14:28 |
| nikhil | ativelkov: SO, I think performance is in general a problem in OpenStack if we focus too hard on interop; on different levels. You can see yourself on the upload case. | 14:28 |
| ativelkov | yup | 14:28 |
| ativelkov | Seems like we are out of time here | 14:29 |
| nikhil | ativelkov: what I am thinking is -- a sophasticated artifacts deployment (large images tables incl, metadef incl) would strongly consider deploying searchlight | 14:29 |
| nikhil | ok, thanks. we can continue somewhere else if we want. | 14:29 |
| ativelkov | yes, let's go to #openstack-glance | 14:29 |
| mfedosin | thanks | 14:30 |
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| ativelkov | #endmeeting | 14:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 5 14:30:26 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_artifacts_sub_team/2015/glance_artifacts_sub_team.2015-10-05-14.01.html | 14:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_artifacts_sub_team/2015/glance_artifacts_sub_team.2015-10-05-14.01.txt | 14:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_artifacts_sub_team/2015/glance_artifacts_sub_team.2015-10-05-14.01.log.html | 14:30 |
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| gsagie | apuimedo hi :) | 14:59 |
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| apuimedo | #startmeeting kuryr | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 5 15:00:43 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 15:00 |
| diga | o/ | 15:00 |
| apuimedo | Welcome to the Kuryr weekly meeting | 15:01 |
| apuimedo | I hope you all had a nice weekend | 15:01 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 15:01 |
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| apuimedo | Who's here? I see diga and gsagie | 15:01 |
| banix | o/ | 15:01 |
| tfukushima | o/ | 15:01 |
| dane_leblanc | o/ | 15:01 |
| feisky | o/ | 15:02 |
| feisky | first time to join, thanks to gsagie | 15:02 |
| diga | apuimedo: gsagie : today my company officially granted me to put 50% of my time to Kuryr & Openstack | 15:02 |
| gsagie | diga: thats great | 15:03 |
| diga | gsagie: Thanks | 15:03 |
| apuimedo | #info gsagie diga banix tfukushima dane_leblanc feisky present | 15:03 |
| apuimedo | diga: cool ;-) | 15:03 |
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| diga | apuimedo: gsagie :Now I can work dedicately on kuryr :) | 15:03 |
| apuimedo | glad to read that | 15:03 |
| diga | :) | 15:04 |
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| apuimedo | #topic demo | 15:04 |
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| apuimedo | hi VikasC, joining the meeting? | 15:04 |
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| apuimedo | tfukushima: please, update us on the progress with the demo on Kilo (and the ever going changes in IPAM in docker experimental) | 15:05 |
| gsagie | VikasC: saw the vagrant patch, looks very interesting, will review it tommorow | 15:05 |
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| apuimedo | still needs some work on enabling kuryr IIRC | 15:05 |
| VikasC | gsagie: Thanks | 15:05 |
| VikasC | apuimedo: Hi | 15:06 |
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| tfukushima | I tried my code run against Kilo + Docker 1.9.0 and I confirmed it worked appropriately after some modifications. | 15:06 |
| gsagie | apuimedo: feisty would like to start working on the OVS VIF binding starting tomorrow, will provide some help and hopefully we can start working on it basted on Taku's patch | 15:06 |
| apuimedo | tfukushima: so I guess we pin to Kilo and Docker 1.9.0 for the demo | 15:06 |
| tfukushima | With subnetpool supports. | 15:06 |
| banix | tfukushima: can you explain what you plan to demo please | 15:07 |
| apuimedo | nice to hear | 15:07 |
| apuimedo | banix: the demo is having kuryr on two hosts | 15:07 |
| gsagie | feisky | 15:07 |
| apuimedo | and having the containers communicate | 15:07 |
| apuimedo | being on the same neutron network | 15:07 |
| tfukushima | It's going to be very simple first. Create the default subnetpool in advance, create a network, launch two Docker containers and attach them to the tow services. | 15:08 |
| tfukushima | They can talk each other because they're in the same subnet. | 15:08 |
| VikasC | tfukushima: tow services? | 15:08 |
| tfukushima | Two endpoints in CNM term. But they're "services" in the Docker CLI. | 15:09 |
| apuimedo | VikasC: it's a docker network construct | 15:09 |
| banix | how do you create the network? on one of the nodes? | 15:09 |
| VikasC | apuimedo: ok.. | 15:09 |
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| feisky | tfukushima: will the demo show multiple networks? | 15:09 |
| apuimedo | banix: both hosts should start the docker daemon pointing to the same kv store | 15:10 |
| tfukushima | We'll have the multiple subnets to show the connectivity separation but I'm not planning to show the multiple networks so far. | 15:11 |
| apuimedo | I guess that with Taku we'll try it with zookeeper | 15:11 |
| tfukushima | I really want to show the quick demo here but my env is suffered from the networking issue. | 15:11 |
| apuimedo | so that the networks created on one host are visible on the others | 15:11 |
| feisky | tfukushima: ok | 15:11 |
| apuimedo | tfukushima: we can do it later this week, sending an invite | 15:11 |
| banix | apuimedo: ok, so that part is not in tree as of now. correct? | 15:12 |
| apuimedo | banix: that's just a matter of how you start the docker daemon | 15:12 |
| apuimedo | but it is not documented in the repo | 15:12 |
| apuimedo | #info for the multinode demo, the docker hosts use the same kv-store when starting the docker daemon | 15:12 |
| banix | you mean by specifying the kvstore? | 15:12 |
| apuimedo | banix: yes | 15:13 |
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| apuimedo | #action apuimedo tfukushima to test kvstore with zookeeper | 15:13 |
| banix | apuimedo: I thought the driver needs to explicitly use the store but it seems, that is not hte case and libnetwork takes care of that. Is this correct? | 15:14 |
| gsagie | apuimedo: zookeeper is because midonet already uses zookeeper? because it seems etcd might be simpler | 15:14 |
| apuimedo | gsagie: it's because we already have it running in the demo image :P | 15:14 |
| gsagie | ok :) | 15:14 |
| apuimedo | banix: exactly. the driver is not interacting with it, libnetwork does | 15:15 |
| apuimedo | at least, that's my understanding of it | 15:15 |
| banix | apuimedo: ok thanks; tfukushima you agree? | 15:15 |
| tfukushima | Yes. | 15:16 |
| apuimedo | tfukushima: any other demo update? | 15:17 |
| apuimedo | feisky: what's your tz? | 15:17 |
| gsagie | she is from china i believe | 15:17 |
| apuimedo | ok | 15:18 |
| gsagie | i will assist her with the OVS VIF binding if she will need help | 15:18 |
| tfukushima | Not so much. The big new is subnetpool worked nicely. | 15:18 |
| apuimedo | feisky: so please, be in #openstack-neutron so we can all work on the demo ;-) | 15:18 |
| tfukushima | Regarding the IPAM, there was the big change in libnetwork API but let's talk that later. | 15:18 |
| feisky | apuimedo: CST | 15:18 |
| apuimedo | #info subnetpool usage works. Thanks Taku! | 15:18 |
| feisky | apuimedo: I have join #openstack-neutron | 15:19 |
| apuimedo | #topic milestone 1B (Connect to existing networks) | 15:19 |
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| apuimedo | I remind the newcomers that this sub-milestone depends on us getting the mapping from either docker labels or storing it in tags in Neutron | 15:20 |
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| banix | apuimedo: is there a place where milestones are kept? can you provide the link please | 15:20 |
| apuimedo | banix: heh... Good point. I keep them in my laptop. I'll put them on the wiki tonight. | 15:21 |
| gsagie | apuimedo: the tags spec is still up there, i hope there will be an agreement for Mitaka but it will probably take time to get it merged into Neutron anyway | 15:21 |
| feisky | gsagie: not she please | 15:21 |
| gsagie | feisky: ohh sorry | 15:21 |
| apuimedo | feisky: gsagie: we don't judge :P | 15:21 |
| gsagie | :) | 15:21 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to update milestone information in the wiki | 15:21 |
| banix | and the labels now I doubt that will get in 1.9 | 15:21 |
| apuimedo | banix: most likely not | 15:22 |
| gsagie | apuimedo : feisky also had a good point, do we want to have a TODO list for new contributors that want to take on tasks, or is that something that is managed only using the blue prints? | 15:22 |
| tfukushima | :-( | 15:22 |
| apuimedo | gsagie: we do | 15:22 |
| apuimedo | we need a low hanging fruit section | 15:22 |
| apuimedo | for smaller things that do not require blueprints | 15:23 |
| gsagie | you can put an action on me, i will update it | 15:23 |
| apuimedo | gsagie: thanks | 15:23 |
| banix | we need to triage bugs, assign bueprints priority, owner, etc | 15:23 |
| apuimedo | #action gsagie to create a low hanging fruit section in the wiki | 15:23 |
| apuimedo | banix: perfectly agreed | 15:23 |
| gsagie | banix: yeah, there are also two related specs in Neutron that are "part of" Kuryr, the tags to resources and port forwarding which i am trying to propose | 15:24 |
| feisky | I see https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kuryr has no been updated for a long time | 15:24 |
| apuimedo | banix: tfukushima: gsagie: what are your thoughts on taking the current patch for the network labels | 15:24 |
| apuimedo | and test against that | 15:24 |
| banix | and we can have low hanging features/fixes tracked on launchpad.. wikis go out od date more quickly | 15:24 |
| apuimedo | (after the summit) | 15:24 |
| apuimedo | I don't foresee the network labels interface to change | 15:24 |
| gsagie | apuimedo: if we want to support pre-allocation of ports, we can use binding_profile | 15:24 |
| gsagie | currently in Neutron | 15:25 |
| apuimedo | gsagie: aka the ovn trick? | 15:25 |
| banix | apuimedo: I am going to see if I can get an updated version of the patch; i think we should try to port it | 15:25 |
| gsagie | apuimedo: yep | 15:25 |
| apuimedo | my preference is to try to use the updated version of the patch that banix will try to get | 15:25 |
| gsagie | at least as a place holder until either tags or labels are merged | 15:25 |
| gsagie | k | 15:26 |
| apuimedo | and use labels/binding profile as a second/third option | 15:26 |
| apuimedo | #aciton banix to try to get a docker x86_64 build with the network labels patch | 15:26 |
| apuimedo | #action banix to try to get a docker x86_64 build with the network labels patch | 15:26 |
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| apuimedo | feisky: you are right on that | 15:27 |
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| apuimedo | we all need to be more consistent in our usage of launchpad | 15:27 |
| apuimedo | (specially me) | 15:27 |
| gsagie | armax: ping | 15:28 |
| apuimedo | salv-orl_: I summon you | 15:28 |
| feisky | some one should update it's status as consistent with code | 15:28 |
| armax | gsagie: pong | 15:28 |
| apuimedo | let's see if he is here for the testing quiestions | 15:28 |
| salv-orl_ | hi | 15:28 |
| apuimedo | feisky: I'll do that | 15:28 |
| gsagie | armax: wanted to know if there is going to be a design session time for Kuryr in Neutron | 15:28 |
| salv-orl_ | gsagie: how much are you willing to pay ;) | 15:29 |
| apuimedo | salv-orl_: did you have some time in the last week to do "salv-orlando to chat with the infra people about running func tests | 15:29 |
| apuimedo | there" | 15:29 |
| salv-orl_ | armax should put slots to auction | 15:29 |
| salv-orl_ | yes. Basically the bottom line is | 15:29 |
| apuimedo | salv-orl_: I can pay in salmiakki | 15:29 |
| gsagie | salv-orl_ : are you going to run the auction? ;) i might just pay you | 15:29 |
| apuimedo | oh great | 15:29 |
| salv-orl_ | if we have a devstack way to do that, we can do it | 15:29 |
| apuimedo | #topic testing | 15:29 |
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| armax | gsagie: I am working on the summit session but I doubt the project gets an entire slot | 15:29 |
| salv-orl_ | but it better be through a devstack plugin | 15:29 |
| salv-orl_ | otherwise we need to talk and it's a long process as we need modified images | 15:30 |
| armax | I will send an update on a draft of the schedule later this week | 15:30 |
| apuimedo | #info we need a devstack plugin for the testing infrastructure | 15:30 |
| gsagie | armax: ok thanks | 15:30 |
| apuimedo | thanks salv-orl_ ;-) | 15:30 |
| salv-orl_ | Looking at my kuryr dev env, I think with some work we can setup devstack to make it work, even if it's a bit weird as we use devstack to setup software which is not part of the openstack deployment | 15:30 |
| salv-orl_ | I won't have time to make progress during this week, but the next one I can see where I can get with devstack | 15:31 |
| apuimedo | salv-orl_: agreed. It is a bit weird :P | 15:31 |
| apuimedo | very well, thanks salv-orl_ ;-) | 15:31 |
| gsagie | I am not too familiar with that, but can we somehow use Rally? | 15:31 |
| apuimedo | #action salv-orl_ to try next week to work on devstack integration | 15:31 |
| salv-orl_ | once you have a VM with docker, kury, neutron, and keystone at least | 15:32 |
| salv-orl_ | you can use whatever you want | 15:32 |
| apuimedo | cool | 15:32 |
| apuimedo | gsagie: the sessions you and armax are talking about are Friday's? | 15:32 |
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| armax | I am not | 15:33 |
| gsagie | apuimedo : no, there is a design session which has Neutron slots in it, i was hoping we could get an hour for Kuryr, but i guess its more crowded right now | 15:33 |
| gsagie | its starting from the second, or third day of the summit and is happening in parallel i believe | 15:33 |
| salv-orl_ | fwiw my 2p is that kuryr contributors should probably look for a slot, table, or whatever at the contributor meetup | 15:33 |
| apuimedo | sure, but if it were to happen, it's Friday, right? | 15:33 |
| armax | if I recall correctly Friday’s sessions are self-organized… | 15:33 |
| banix | All Friday sessions are held at the Pokemon Center | 15:33 |
| apuimedo | ah, ok | 15:34 |
| salv-orl_ | it's hard to get a fishbowl session. acceptance rate is very low ;) | 15:34 |
| gsagie | Friday is free talks | 15:34 |
| apuimedo | ah yes, sorry | 15:34 |
| apuimedo | I confused them both :P | 15:34 |
| apuimedo | I was to the fishbowl of Nova last time, right | 15:34 |
| apuimedo | that was not Friday | 15:34 |
| apuimedo | ok. salv-orl_ good point on that | 15:35 |
| apuimedo | gsagie: can you look into the contributor meetup option | 15:35 |
| apuimedo | otherwise we'll meet as well on Friday in the Neutron and Magnum rooms | 15:35 |
| apuimedo | for a while | 15:35 |
| apuimedo | #topic Summit | 15:35 |
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| gsagie | k, np | 15:36 |
| apuimedo | I finally have the flight tickets, so Japan, here we go! | 15:36 |
| apuimedo | tfukushima: you will be our host ;-) | 15:36 |
| gsagie | :) | 15:36 |
| apuimedo | #action gsagie to try to scoop up some mini design session / contributor meetup spot | 15:37 |
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| banix | tfukushima: what is your tz? I thought you were in Cali. No? | 15:37 |
| gsagie | Tokyo.. | 15:37 |
| apuimedo | banix: he lives in Tokyo! | 15:37 |
| apuimedo | but he works around the clock lately :P | 15:38 |
| tfukushima | I'm in Tokyo. | 15:38 |
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| tfukushima | Sorry I was recording the quick demo. | 15:38 |
| banix | and was visiting you the other time? when we had a hangout? ok makes sense | 15:38 |
| apuimedo | tfukushima: you finally got good enough latency? | 15:38 |
| tfukushima | Looks so. | 15:38 |
| apuimedo | banix: yes, tfukushima was visiting Barcelona back then | 15:38 |
| banix | so you are in Barcelona apuimedo ? | 15:39 |
| apuimedo | banix: a town nearby, I don't go to Barcelona too often | 15:39 |
| apuimedo | Does anybody else have some proposal thought about the summit? | 15:39 |
| banix | cool | 15:40 |
| apuimedo | we are missing somebody in Austin to contribute to Kuryr to have the next summits covered | 15:40 |
| apuimedo | in hosts ;-) | 15:40 |
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| gsagie | apuimedo: we should probably schedule to all meet sometime either during the summit or after | 15:40 |
| gsagie | after "summit working hours" | 15:40 |
| apuimedo | gsagie: agreed | 15:41 |
| banix | +1 | 15:41 |
| apuimedo | I don't know Tokyo at all, so I'll defer to tfukushima to suggest some spot ;-) | 15:41 |
| tfukushima | Today is not my good networking day. I'm having a trouble to upload my video to Google Drive. | 15:42 |
| apuimedo | otherwise I'll propose a Gyudon joint like Yoshinoya | 15:42 |
| apuimedo | xD | 15:42 |
| tfukushima | #link Kuryr demo public repo https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwURaz1ic-5tS2RMeV9tQUhrTUE | 15:42 |
| apuimedo | so it uploaded finally tfukushima ? | 15:42 |
| apuimedo | #topic open floor | 15:43 |
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| apuimedo | anybody else have anything to bring up? | 15:43 |
| tfukushima | #link kuryr demo with the default subnetpool https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwURaz1ic-5tcnFxSndEVVh3dXc/view?usp=sharing | 15:43 |
| banix | We will have a presentation on Monday at the summit | 15:43 |
| tfukushima | It takes some time the video is encoded. | 15:43 |
| gsagie | i got an email from someone proposing to do alternate IRC meetings, as the meeting time in US is problematic | 15:43 |
| apuimedo | banix: Monday?! | 15:44 |
| gsagie | thought i will bring it up here | 15:44 |
| banix | apuimedo: Tuesday :) | 15:44 |
| apuimedo | Didn't it start Tuesday this time | 15:44 |
| apuimedo | ah, ok ;-) | 15:44 |
| banix | The one on Monday will by at the joint you were mentioning I supose :) | 15:44 |
| apuimedo | gsagie: that's a good point | 15:44 |
| apuimedo | heh, that wouldn't be bad | 15:45 |
| apuimedo | gsagie: did they propose some time? | 15:45 |
| apuimedo | I could see a 21:00 utc | 15:46 |
| gsagie | Nope, just said that is when he drive the kids to school | 15:46 |
| gsagie | Someone from Wallmart | 15:46 |
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| apuimedo | aha | 15:46 |
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| apuimedo | who, eghobo? | 15:47 |
| apuimedo | gsagie: ^^ | 15:47 |
| gsagie | Egor Guz | 15:47 |
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| apuimedo | yup, that's eghobo I think | 15:48 |
| gsagie | I think we can do an experiment and have two meetings for some week and see whats the interest we get | 15:48 |
| banix | tfukushima: can you post the commend you use to start docker daemon here as well | 15:48 |
| apuimedo | agreed | 15:48 |
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| gsagie | and if there is, we can consider an alternate meetings | 15:48 |
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| apuimedo | ok | 15:48 |
| tfukushima | banix: Actually I didn't do anything special. sudo service docker start. | 15:48 |
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| apuimedo | banix: it will be special when we use the kv-store flag | 15:49 |
| tfukushima | diga: The error we got was due to the daemon was not working correctly. | 15:49 |
| banix | tfukushima: ok so you are not using it yet | 15:49 |
| gsagie | apuimedo: i will try to find a time slot for next week that fits US time zone | 15:49 |
| apuimedo | #action gsagie apuimedo to bring up alternate meetings to the mailing list | 15:49 |
| gsagie | okie great :) | 15:49 |
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| tfukushima | banix: I don't think so. | 15:49 |
| apuimedo | anything else? | 15:49 |
| tfukushima | libnetwork had the significant change on its IPAM interface for the API. | 15:50 |
| tfukushima | #link IPAM change of libnetwork https://github.com/docker/libnetwork/commit/763709cbbdd300e7d7000a2c05942fe529d4627a#diff-a1e90ab5bba3aeb1ec3a46addf5b99ca | 15:50 |
| irenab | apuimedo: any news for second phase: containers in VM? | 15:50 |
| banix | and the UI is changing as well | 15:50 |
| apuimedo | irenab: embargoed until we get the demo. I expect to kickstart it with strength in Tokyo | 15:51 |
| tfukushima | banix: Which UI do you mean? | 15:51 |
| banix | docker for networking (libnetwork) | 15:51 |
| feisky | #tfukushima has this been merged? | 15:52 |
| apuimedo | tfukushima: banix: feisky take it to #openstack-neutron! | 15:52 |
| apuimedo | ;-) | 15:52 |
| apuimedo | #endmeeting | 15:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 5 15:52:24 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2015/kuryr.2015-10-05-15.00.html | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2015/kuryr.2015-10-05-15.00.txt | 15:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2015/kuryr.2015-10-05-15.00.log.html | 15:52 |
| apuimedo | Thank you all for joining! | 15:52 |
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| banix | tfukushima: https://github.com/docker/docker/pull/16645 | 15:53 |
| tfukushima | banix: Thanks. | 15:54 |
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| tfukushima | feisky: Regarding the patch, I haven't confirmed if the actual code was merged yet. | 15:54 |
| tfukushima | So I don't know if it's just a doc change or the actual patch was already merged. | 15:55 |
| banix | tfukushima: feisky same for the above. not merged yet | 15:55 |
| feisky | tfukushima: it has been merged to libnetwork, there is a log at https://github.com/docker/libnetwork/commits/master | 15:55 |
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| tfukushima | feisky: Ah, thanks. | 15:56 |
| feisky | #tfukushima document at https://github.com/docker/libnetwork/blob/master/docs/remote.md has already updated | 15:56 |
| tfukushima | Yeah, I found the doc was changed but I was not sure the code was already in master. | 15:57 |
| tfukushima | It's in the master and they changed the doc. Good to know. | 15:57 |
| feisky | It changed to much | 15:58 |
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| tfukushima | Yes, it's not easy to catch up with it submitting the patches. | 15:59 |
| * Sukhdev time check | 15:59 | |
| tfukushima | Sukhdev: Sorry we're finishing. | 15:59 |
| banix | Sukhdev: we are done pls go ahead with your meeting | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | banix: Thanks | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | Hello Ironic-Neutron folks - meeting time | 16:00 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll: are you here? | 16:01 |
| jroll | hi Sukhdev | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: and yuo? | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting ironic_neutron | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 5 16:01:34 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | Good morning folks | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_October_5.2C_2015 | 16:02 |
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| lazy_prince | o/ | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | Will and Carmelo are at linuxcon and hence, will not be joining us today | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | I do not have any other announcement - | 16:03 |
| lazy_prince | :( | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | Do you have any annoncement to make? | 16:03 |
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| lazy_prince | not really.. | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | OK - in that case, lets dive into the agenda | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Integration Status | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | I was able to make good progress - the new patches were very helpful | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | I can now see the the network flip logic working | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | the only remaining issue I see is that upon the deletion of VM, the ports are not removed/cleaned from the tenant netowork | 16:05 |
| lazy_prince | \o/ | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince and I have been communicating daily on this effort - this helped a lot | 16:06 |
| lazy_prince | So.. I just was wondering.. is that something being done by nova (ironic virt) driver or the ironic conductor service.. | 16:06 |
| jroll | yeah, that should be done by nova | 16:07 |
| lazy_prince | can we look at the nova patches and see which ones are needed and so we can try addressing that too.. | 16:07 |
| lazy_prince | s/look/relook/ | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | I do not see any patch other than this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206163 | 16:08 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: I'd love to see the nova-compute logs for that problem | 16:09 |
| lazy_prince | Well.. on the etherpad, we have three patches listed.. | 16:09 |
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| lazy_prince | Sukhdev: so log is needed, is that something you can share..? | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: so, you want to see the logs when "nova delete" is issued? | 16:10 |
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| Sukhdev | I can provide that later today - | 16:10 |
| lazy_prince | I think so.. | 16:10 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: yeah, I don't see any reason why the ports wouldn't be cleaned up | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev | I thought the same way as well - but, something is preventing | 16:11 |
| jroll | right | 16:11 |
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| jroll | so let's come back to that offline | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: do you see the same issue on your setup as well? | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: right - I will ping you later with the details | 16:12 |
| lazy_prince | Nope.. I have not been able to get to that point.. struggling with the devstack networks.. :( | 16:12 |
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| Sukhdev | Ah OK | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | Other than that, lazy_prince and I saw an issue with the CLI - I have logged that on the etherpad as well | 16:13 |
| yhvh | hi /me lurks on conference wifi | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | yhvh: thanks for signing in - | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | yhvh: did you have a chance to look at the etherpad about one of the CLI issue? | 16:14 |
| yhvh | no I will checkout and fix | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | yhvh: we have a work around - so, no rush, when ever you return back from conference, it will be nice to get that fixed | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else on the integration effort? | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: do you have anything to add/share? | 16:16 |
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| lazy_prince | umm.. One thing.. | 16:17 |
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| lazy_prince | so we decided that network_provider will be an attribute to the node.. and we also decided that, in case if a node does not have it, it will default to the config file default.. | 16:18 |
| lazy_prince | is that right understanding..? | 16:18 |
| jroll | if I remember correctly, yes | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | I think that is the case, but, double check - I think this is documented in the spec - | 16:19 |
| lazy_prince | okay. in such case how is ironic virt driver supposed to get the network_provider from config file in case if node does not have it.. | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | I have not tested that case, hence, like jroll, going only by faded memory :-):-) | 16:20 |
| lazy_prince | are there APIs to get config parameters from ironic..? | 16:21 |
| lazy_prince | Just curious... and wondering.. | 16:21 |
| jroll | lazy_prince: in nova, hmm | 16:21 |
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| jroll | the node object should be available | 16:21 |
| jroll | we have all of the node data in nova | 16:21 |
| lazy_prince | yeah.. but is the node does not have the network_provider set, then how is nova supposed to get it from Ironic.. | 16:22 |
| jroll | oh, the other way, my mistake | 16:22 |
| lazy_prince | s/is/if/ | 16:23 |
| jroll | great question | 16:23 |
| jroll | maybe we have the same config in nova? | 16:23 |
| lazy_prince | or ironic compute broadcasts it as attribute to nova sch which can later be used by virt driver or something..? | 16:24 |
| lazy_prince | I know the former sounds easy.. | 16:24 |
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| jroll | yeah, afaik there's not a way for nova to grab configs from ironic | 16:25 |
| jroll | and we should probably avoid that, seems like a layer violation | 16:25 |
| lazy_prince | We can come back to it later or ask from nova folks what they have in store for us.. | 16:26 |
| jroll | ya | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: shall I assign you this action item? | 16:27 |
| lazy_prince | jroll: will you be checking this with nova folks..? | 16:27 |
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| Sukhdev | or should jroll own this? | 16:27 |
| jroll | lazy_prince: checking what, specifically? | 16:27 |
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| jroll | I don't think nova should pull configs from ironic, it should have its own config | 16:27 |
| lazy_prince | okay... then lets agree on making this as part of nova config.. under ironic namespace.. | 16:28 |
| jroll | yeah, agree | 16:28 |
| lazy_prince | jroll: will you be updating the nova patch then..? | 16:29 |
| jroll | lazy_prince: I guess so, that's been on my list for a while | 16:29 |
| lazy_prince | great.. | 16:29 |
| lazy_prince | In case you are busy, we could take that up for you.. | 16:30 |
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| lazy_prince | Thats all I had to discuss.. | 16:31 |
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| jroll | lazy_prince: alright, we'll figure it out. thanks :) | 16:31 |
| Sukhdev | #action: jroll and lazy_prince to work out the plan to populate network_provider info into nova node config | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev | anything else on this topic? | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Action Items from previous week(s) | 16:33 |
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| Sukhdev | Carmelo published a patch on Ironic documentation - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228496/2/doc/source/deploy/install-guide.rst | 16:33 |
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| Sukhdev | I see some review comments on this - please provide your feedback so that this can be cleaned up | 16:33 |
| Sukhdev | I have not had a chance to work on the ML2 documentation - was too much consumed with making things work - | 16:34 |
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| Sukhdev | now that things are falling in place, should be able to work on the documentation this week or next | 16:35 |
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| Sukhdev | Actually, I have ML2 code sprint next three days - so, it will probably fall to next week | 16:35 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Patches under review | 16:36 |
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| Sukhdev | The patches are looking much better now | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | I have not reviewed or tested anything related to port-groups yet | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: I know you have been testing port-groups - how is that looking? | 16:38 |
| lazy_prince | Overall, it looks good with couple of cli issues.. | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | the cli issues that we already covered, right? | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | moving along.... | 16:40 |
| Sukhdev | since we have already covered documentation - lets jump to next topic | 16:41 |
| Sukhdev | #topic Open Discussion | 16:41 |
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| Sukhdev | Tokyo summit is fast approaching | 16:41 |
| Sukhdev | I am assuming I will see you all there - | 16:41 |
| yhvh | yes | 16:42 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll: you devananda and I have to work on presentation | 16:42 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: yeah..... that's a thing | 16:42 |
| devananda | :) | 16:42 |
| lazy_prince | I will be there too.. :) | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | I can dump some initial thoughts and pass it along to you guys | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | jroll devananda: I am thinking using google presentation and share three-way - that way we can edit together | 16:43 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: sure, that's fine | 16:43 |
| devananda | can I just stand there and look pretty? | 16:44 |
| jroll | I don't love google presentation but we can at least start there | 16:44 |
| devananda | (j/k) | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | devananda: ha ha - as long as you do a good job looking pretty :-) | 16:44 |
| devananda | I'm fine with google presentation, though I prefer reveal.js - which also means we could collaborate through git | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | I have no clue about reveal.js - lets start with google, when we get to consensus, then we can move to any other format | 16:45 |
| devananda | Sukhdev: it's just html/css | 16:45 |
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| Sukhdev | yhvh: we should hook up and discuss the plan for design summit idea - as per our previous discussion | 16:46 |
| yhvh | sure | 16:47 |
| Sukhdev | yhvh: have to added the design idea to the etherpad that jroll provided last week? | 16:47 |
| devananda | Sukhdev: eg, http://devananda.github.io/talks/ironic-modern-deployment.html#/ == https://github.com/devananda/talks/blob/master/ironic-modern-deployment.html | 16:47 |
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| jroll | Sukhdev: I assume you mean this one? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-ironic-design-summit-ideas | 16:47 |
| yhvh | Sukhdev: no | 16:47 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: yes, thanks | 16:48 |
| Sukhdev | yhvh: do you want to add or want me to do so? | 16:48 |
| Sukhdev | devananda: wow!!! | 16:48 |
| Sukhdev | devananda: It will take me long time to work on this - | 16:49 |
| devananda | Sukhdev: if gdocs is easier for you - that's fine | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | devananda jroll: lets initially agree on the subject matter and the flow - as to what we want to cover and how to present - then we can switch to any format | 16:50 |
| jroll | yeah, I'm not opinionated on the tool though I do prefer reveal.js | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | devananda, jroll : This week is busy for me - will put together something next week and send your way - unless you want to take the lead | 16:51 |
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| jroll | Sukhdev: ok, thanks | 16:52 |
| Sukhdev | yhvh: ? | 16:52 |
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| * Sukhdev 8 min left - anybody wants to discuss anything else? | 16:52 | |
| Sukhdev | I guess we are done | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | I will ping yhvh off-line and work out the details with him | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | Thanks folks | 16:53 |
| lazy_prince | I guess, we need reviews from cores on the patches.. | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 16:53 |
| jroll | lazy_prince: will try to get some eyes on it | 16:54 |
| jroll | thanks all | 16:54 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: yes, we do - | 16:54 |
| lazy_prince | cool.. | 16:54 |
| Sukhdev | once I get a bit more testing, then I will start to bug them :-):-) | 16:54 |
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| Sukhdev | thanks everybody | 16:55 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 16:55 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 16:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 5 16:55:11 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:55 |
| lazy_prince | bye.. | 16:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2015/ironic_neutron.2015-10-05-16.01.html | 16:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2015/ironic_neutron.2015-10-05-16.01.txt | 16:55 |
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