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| flaper87 | o/ | 14:00 |
| nikhil_k | #startmeeting glance drivers | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 15 14:00:48 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil_k. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| rosmaita | o/ | 14:01 |
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| nikhil_k | So, I wanted to discuss two things quickly today | 14:01 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 14:01 |
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| nikhil_k | 1. ova/ovf stuff | 14:01 |
| nikhil_k | 2. scrubbing in parallel | 14:01 |
| nikhil_k | Let's get started | 14:01 |
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| flaper87 | lets start w/ #2 | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | seems more complete | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | and rosmaita and I +2'd it already | 14:01 |
| nikhil_k | oops, forgot to mention we don't have a set agenda for today | 14:02 |
| * flaper87 just hijacked nikhil_k's list | 14:02 | |
| flaper87 | sorry about that :( | 14:02 |
| nikhil_k | np | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196240/ | 14:02 |
| nikhil_k | we can start with 2 but we will need to chat about 1 today so that we can decide on it's fate | 14:02 |
| nikhil_k | #topic scrubbing in parallel | 14:02 |
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| flaper87 | nikhil_k: yup, we get #2 out of the way and spend the rest of the time on 1 | 14:02 |
| nikhil_k | So, the only thing missing for | 14:03 |
| nikhil_k | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196240/ | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | As I mentioned in our last meeting, with the spec, I think I'm good w/ it landing | 14:03 |
| nikhil_k | is that we don't know if doc team gave a green light on that | 14:03 |
| nikhil_k | once that is confirmed it seems pretty complete | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k: good point | 14:03 |
| nikhil_k | rosmaita: hemanthm : any thing on that yet? | 14:03 |
| nikhil_k | jcook: ^ | 14:03 |
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| nikhil_k | not sure who was handling that action item | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | not from me | 14:04 |
| nikhil_k | I see | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | but i wasn't actually looking into it | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | i could, though ... what's the issue? | 14:04 |
| nikhil_k | so, what I will do is send a email to concerned folks and see if they were able to contact the doc team and got a response | 14:04 |
| * flaper87 nods | 14:05 | |
| nikhil_k | rosmaita: it has a config and we need to clear with documentation team if that's okay | 14:05 |
| nikhil_k | we can hold off RC until then but not for too long | 14:05 |
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| jcook | nikhil_k: hi | 14:05 |
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| rosmaita | ok, i will contact. they currently generate by crawling the config files, so i don't think there should be a problem | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: ++ | 14:06 |
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| nikhil_k | I see, hopefully the crawling and release from docs doesn't happen until the project(s) are released | 14:06 |
| nikhil_k | release from docs == publishing for Liberty | 14:06 |
| jcook | nikhil_k: the green light on the docs? I thought hemanthm was working directly with you on that. Let me ping him on another channel and see if he is around. | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | exactly | 14:07 |
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| jcook | nikhil_k: if we don't have it yet, I will work with hemanthm to reach out this morning | 14:08 |
| nikhil_k | jcook: thanks. let's sycn offline to ensure we can let this one through. | 14:08 |
| jcook | nikhil_k: sounds good. thanks! | 14:08 |
| nikhil_k | #topic ova/ovf | 14:08 |
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| * flaper87 +2'd the spec as a sign he's ok w/ it | 14:08 | |
| nikhil_k | thanks flaper87 ! | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | well, that's what +2s are for | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:08 |
| nikhil_k | about this one | 14:09 |
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| nikhil_k | I checked and there were some issues with the code | 14:09 |
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| flaper87 | up and I'm doing another review now and there are still issues | 14:09 |
| nikhil_k | I am not being too picky about the spec at this point | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | not minor things that I'd be happy to skip like: "Checking on extensions rather than using ovf's metadata" | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | There are other minor things that are totally fixable | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | I did review on it yesterday | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: thanks for that review | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | They are being responsive, FWIW | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | so, I'd expect there to be a new version of this patch w/ fixes for my comments by the end of today | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | (if they keep this pace) | 14:11 |
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| nikhil_k | the question remains | 14:11 |
| nikhil_k | the one question* | 14:11 |
| nikhil_k | should we hold off till thursday ? | 14:11 |
| nikhil_k | and make a call then? | 14:11 |
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| flaper87 | I'd make the call on thursday | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | yes | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | +1 | 14:12 |
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| jokke_ | Well I think we're starting to be in stage that if it's nor mergeable by end of the week, they just don't get in on time? | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: RC1 is on Friday so no | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | or did we have still next week before RC1 tags? | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | it has to be mergeable by thursday | 14:12 |
| hemanthm | o/ | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | yeah ... so I think at this point it's kind of needless to look timeline for decision, if it does not merge by that it's out ... I'm happy to review when there is something changing | 14:13 |
| nikhil_k | umm, I am not sure | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | oh wait | 14:13 |
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| flaper87 | RC1 is next week | 14:14 |
| nikhil_k | Will have to double check but I think we can merge it next week | 14:14 |
| nikhil_k | yep, exactly | 14:14 |
| * flaper87 got confused | 14:14 | |
| nikhil_k | np | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | sorry about that | 14:14 |
| nikhil_k | clients are this week | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | so yeah, we still have next week until Tuesday | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | ok, so that 18th was our internal deadline | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | ish | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: correct | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | sorry for the confusion | 14:14 |
| nikhil_k | so we can wait till early next week | 14:14 |
| nikhil_k | jokke_: yes | 14:14 |
| nikhil_k | jokke_: if they have the latest uploaded on 18th and looks okay in the gate on monday besides minor nits, I think we should let them though else not | 14:15 |
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| nikhil_k | but we should final on the spec on thursday | 14:15 |
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| nikhil_k | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 14:15 |
| hemanthm | nikhil_k: sorry, I had my head burried in logs. I will ping you offline about the doc stuff since you guys have moved on to a diffrent topic | 14:16 |
| nikhil_k | hemanthm: sure | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | well if they do fix the pointer myself and flaper87 put into the reviews, they should be pretty much good to go I think ... it's not huge change ... my biggest worry is that they still modify existing image, which was fairly early flagged as no-no | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: you mean, the properties ? | 14:17 |
| jokke_ | no I mean the image data | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | where? I think I missed that. Lets talk offline about this | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:18 |
| nikhil_k | yes, image record and data needs to be created after task has completed | 14:18 |
| nikhil_k | rather, just beforre task is in success | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | my last comment on the change ... | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | from yesterday | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: will re-read that | 14:20 |
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| nikhil_k | has anyone tested this on devstack? | 14:20 |
| nikhil_k | I am getting a little hesitent on the edge cases | 14:20 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k: I'm testing this manually | 14:21 |
| nikhil_k | ah cool | 14:21 |
| flaper87 | as in, I haven't but I downloaded it early | 14:21 |
| flaper87 | and I'm installing everything | 14:21 |
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| flaper87 | I'll let you know | 14:21 |
| nikhil_k | thanks! | 14:21 |
| nikhil_k | the failure cases of uploads and of the tar process can blow up the script | 14:22 |
| nikhil_k | hopefully not the g-api | 14:22 |
| flaper87 | don't think so. Taskflow is very good at catching these things | 14:22 |
| flaper87 | but this introduces another issue which is that we fail to report things back to users | 14:22 |
| flaper87 | anyway, I'll report back on the review | 14:23 |
| nikhil_k | sure, I was mostly worried about the garbage data left over during failed tar and streams to store | 14:24 |
| nikhil_k | may be I will review it closer to see the wrapped are doing those | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k: one of my comments is on an unhandled case like that | 14:24 |
| nikhil_k | cool | 14:24 |
| nikhil_k | if nothing on this one, let's move on the open discussion | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | there's a case were data is being left behind on failre in the current PS | 14:25 |
| * flaper87 has nothing else | 14:25 | |
| nikhil_k | ah | 14:25 |
| nikhil_k | awesome! | 14:25 |
| nikhil_k | #topic open discussion | 14:25 |
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| nikhil_k | hemanthm: you have a chance now :P | 14:25 |
| nikhil_k | or we can talk about RC important bugs that people know about | 14:25 |
| nikhil_k | there has been good cleanup in | 14:26 |
| nikhil_k | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-liberty-rc-reviews | 14:26 |
| nikhil_k | thanks everyone for taking care of that! | 14:26 |
| nikhil_k | we need image signing stuff reviewed soon-ish | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | w000h0000 | 14:26 |
| nikhil_k | I can volunteer as one reviewer | 14:27 |
| * flaper87 will get to that after finishing with ovf | 14:27 | |
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| nikhil_k | someone else please put your name against it so that I can be aware of the possible roadblocks | 14:27 |
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| nikhil_k | also, I was told that there are blockers for murano in the fasttrack zone | 14:28 |
| nikhil_k | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fastTrackPatches | 14:28 |
| nikhil_k | if people have b/w we can get to thouse | 14:28 |
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| hemanthm | nikhil_k: Basically, I haven't reached out to doc folks yet. | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | hemanthm: am talking to docs folks now | 14:29 |
| nikhil_k | ok, please do soon. we need to cut the RCs early next week if possible by gating and other openstack parameters. | 14:29 |
| hemanthm | rosmaita: awesome thanks. | 14:29 |
| hemanthm | nikhil_k: sure | 14:29 |
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| nikhil_k | We are out of time. Thanks all for joining. | 14:30 |
| nikhil_k | #endmeeting | 14:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 15 14:30:25 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2015/glance_drivers.2015-09-15-14.00.html | 14:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2015/glance_drivers.2015-09-15-14.00.txt | 14:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2015/glance_drivers.2015-09-15-14.00.log.html | 14:30 |
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| EmilienM | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 15 15:00:11 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 15:00 |
| iurygregory | hello o/ ( こんにちは ) | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | #link agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20150915 | 15:00 |
| xarses | hi | 15:00 |
| mwhahaha | hi | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | hello, who is here today? | 15:00 |
| IBerezovskiy | hi | 15:00 |
| spredzy | hello | 15:00 |
| degorenko | o/ hey | 15:00 |
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| angdraug | o/ | 15:01 |
| crinkle | o/ | 15:01 |
| mfisch | hey | 15:02 |
| skolekonov | hi | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | #topic documentation | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "documentation (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:02 | |
| EmilienM | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Puppet | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | I worked on a new layout and also more content | 15:02 |
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| richm | here | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | any volunteer to contribute? we still need more content | 15:03 |
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| EmilienM | I thought maybe we could create an etherpad to synchronize the work | 15:03 |
| iurygregory | i can help a little =) | 15:03 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-wiki | 15:03 |
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| sbadia | hey | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | I would expect some help on Coding style, specially from our core team since they should already know that | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | it will help newcomers to quickly provide good patches | 15:05 |
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| EmilienM | so if anyone is interested, look at the etherpad and contribute! | 15:05 |
| sbadia | ack, /me take a look | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | the documentation will help us to welcome more contributors, get more adoption and have more visibility so please consider it :) | 15:06 |
| iurygregory | ok o/ | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | cool | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | #topic Sprint Retrospective | 15:07 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-liberty-sprint-retrospective | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | so except me and mfisch - there is not much feedback | 15:07 |
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| EmilienM | I'm not sure it means everything was perfect :) | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | mfisch recommends to make it in person next time | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | for that, I would suggest we schedule it long time (enough) ago | 15:08 |
| mfisch | its difficult to focus for me otherwise, my boss sees me here he expects me to do work here | 15:08 |
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| EmilienM | and avoid overlap with operators or infra sprints | 15:08 |
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| EmilienM | does anyone has any other feedback to share about the sprint? | 15:09 |
| mfisch | I think we should do it concurrentish with operators | 15:09 |
| mfisch | ops is T-W, we could do R-F | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: R-F ? | 15:09 |
| mfisch | Thursday/Friday | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | ah | 15:10 |
| mfisch | sorry two days start with T in English so we use R | 15:10 |
| xarses | we do? | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | I wish I could speak in french here | 15:10 |
| iurygregory | o.o | 15:10 |
| mfisch | absolutely | 15:10 |
| xarses | Th here | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | it sounds a good idea but are we sure our folks want to attend OPS sprint too? | 15:10 |
| mfisch | they dont have to | 15:10 |
| mfisch | they can come in Wednesday night right? | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | yeah | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | I like the idea | 15:11 |
| mfisch | but me, dorman, crinkley, and a bunch of others were already there | 15:11 |
| xarses | anyway it would be helpful to double upIMO | 15:11 |
| mfisch | sorry crinkle, not crinkley | 15:11 |
| crinkle | lol | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | ahah | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | big +1 | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: written in the etherpad | 15:12 |
| mfisch | thx | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | anything else to say about the sprint? | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | ok let's move then | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | #topic Tokyo - Summit | 15:13 |
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| EmilienM | #link Summit etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/HND-puppet | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | all you need to know is here ^ | 15:13 |
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| EmilienM | if you attend the summit, please open the link and look | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | we are still preparing the agenda, feel free to bring any topic | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | well, even if you don't attend it in person, we can arrange remote things | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | I'll let a bit more of time for our group to feed the topics | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | and make sure we have an agenda when we are there | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: this time I hope there will not be overlap with ops stuffs | 15:16 |
| mfisch | Im sure there will be unfortunately | 15:16 |
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| EmilienM | anyway, we will deal with that, like usual :) | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | anything else about summit? | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | if you noticed, I haven't suggested playing bowling yet | 15:17 |
| mfisch | lol | 15:17 |
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| sbadia | ^^ | 15:17 |
| spredzy | EmilienM, this is Japan isn't Karaoke there thing :) | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | ok let's move | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: I'm very good at singing | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | or maybe not | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | #topic Cinder module & <SERVICE DEFAULT> | 15:17 |
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| sbadia | EmilienM: please don't :D | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: o/ | 15:17 |
| spredzy | degorenko, o/ | 15:17 |
| Hunner | "karaoke" is a japanese word even | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | spredzy, mwhahaha and degorenko: hey | 15:18 |
| degorenko | EmilienM, spredzy, o/ | 15:18 |
| mwhahaha | hey | 15:18 |
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| EmilienM | what needs to be discussed here? | 15:18 |
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| mwhahaha | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219275/4 | 15:18 |
| degorenko | yep ^ | 15:18 |
| mwhahaha | so we're using '<SERVICE DEFAULT>' but when we flip a parameter to true we can't use that anymore | 15:18 |
| mwhahaha | previously that's an undef check | 15:18 |
| mwhahaha | so how should we handle such cases | 15:19 |
| mwhahaha | when we need to enforce the parameter is set to something other than <SERVICE DEFAULT> | 15:19 |
| mfisch | yeah I was wondering about that in the review | 15:19 |
| mfisch | how we deal with bools | 15:19 |
| spredzy | Well we do have this case in this current review | 15:20 |
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| spredzy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221265/4/manifests/backend/gpfs.pp,cm | 15:20 |
| spredzy | with == '<SERVICE DEFAULT>' meaning true for tests | 15:20 |
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| mwhahaha | so we'll need to do a != '<SERVICE DEFAULT>' check as necessary? | 15:21 |
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| EmilienM | I recognize the name is not easy | 15:22 |
| spredzy | mwhahaha, correct | 15:22 |
| mwhahaha | ugh, but ok | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: could not we do better? | 15:23 |
| spredzy | I am open - but the name was decided after several meeting. Changing the name per se isn't much work, making sure it can't be misinterpreted by a module is another story | 15:23 |
| spredzy | neither of the traditional undef, '', false, nil can do | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | I think we can stick on that name now, but I would like good documentation around this | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: can you make sure you document it in coding style? | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | with a dedicated subsection | 15:24 |
| spredzy | EmilienM, ack | 15:25 |
| spredzy | I see the wiki is already updated :) | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: yeah I take notes in // | 15:26 |
| EmilienM | great | 15:26 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: so yeah... in the meantime, let's continue like this - if you have a better proposal, please propose it | 15:26 |
| EmilienM | what spredzy is doing will really help to stick on default OpenStack values | 15:27 |
| mwhahaha | i don't think there is one unfortunately, just want to make sure we all agree on this | 15:27 |
| mwhahaha | no makes sense, it's just very ugly from a readability standpoint | 15:27 |
| mwhahaha | and so much extra code :/ | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: wait - our first motivation was to reduce code | 15:27 |
| degorenko | by using this we reduce code actualy :) | 15:27 |
| degorenko | we just don't use absent setting anymore | 15:28 |
| EmilienM | yeah | 15:28 |
| EmilienM | since our provider is taking care of that | 15:28 |
| mwhahaha | we'll see | 15:28 |
| mwhahaha | :) | 15:28 |
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| degorenko | i think, it's good, but i agree, parameter name is ugly :) | 15:28 |
| EmilienM | spredzy, mwhahaha: if you guys have ideas to improve the readability, go ahead - for now we use puppet-cinder as canary | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | do not patch other modules yet ^ | 15:29 |
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| mwhahaha | can we create a not service default function in openstacklib or something? | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha, degorenko: as spredzy is saying, we discussed about that name in previous meetings | 15:29 |
| mwhahaha | is_os_default($var) that does a check for == '<SERVICE DEFAULT>' | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: which name would you use? | 15:29 |
| mwhahaha | or something | 15:29 |
| degorenko | yes, i'm not against such name | 15:30 |
| mwhahaha | is_service_default | 15:30 |
| mwhahaha | so we don't have to keep typing '<SERVICE DEFAULT>' for these checks | 15:30 |
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| spredzy | mwhahaha, I am not against it | 15:30 |
| EmilienM | I would like to see some code as an example | 15:30 |
| chem | that's a good adiea | 15:30 |
| chem | idea | 15:30 |
| mwhahaha | sure i'll create a review | 15:30 |
| spredzy | if this improves readability basically it would be an if == <SERVICE DEFAULT> return true else return false | 15:30 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: cool th | 15:30 |
| iurygregory | ++ | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | thx | 15:31 |
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| mwhahaha | #action mwhahaha to create is_service_default check function | 15:31 |
| mwhahaha | if is_service_default($var) { fail(...) } | 15:31 |
| mwhahaha | something of the sort | 15:31 |
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| EmilienM | mwhahaha: sounds like cool | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: you can patch puppet-openstacklib + patch puppet-cinder and use Depends-On | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | so we can actually test and see the result | 15:32 |
| mwhahaha | sure, i'll get with degorenko and get it lined up | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | awesome :) | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | anything else on this topic? | 15:32 |
| mwhahaha | i'm ok | 15:33 |
| degorenko | yep! thanks :) | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | #topic Federation blueprint | 15:33 |
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| EmilienM | iurygregory: o/ | 15:33 |
| iurygregory | o/ | 15:33 |
| iurygregory | Well people, when the spec enabling-federation was approved, the idea was one class for service provider and we should validate the choice because we have three possibilities: OpenID Connector as protocol and with SAML as protocol, with SAML we need to choose the module between shibboleth and mellon. | 15:33 |
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| iurygregory | The reason to have just one class was that they will share common attributes, but since the code will be on puppet-keystone and we can only modify configuration files (keystone.conf keystone-apache) related to Keystone and this attributes are related to the configuration files of the installed protocol/module, taking as an example Shibboleth, we need to apply changes in shibboleth2.xml and attribute-map.xml which are located in "/etc/s | 15:33 |
| iurygregory | hibboleth" =/ . | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | first thing to consider, if this single manifest is going to be huge, better to split it from now | 15:34 |
| iurygregory | ok | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: any thoughts? | 15:34 |
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| EmilienM | richm: ^ | 15:35 |
| iurygregory | So i need to change the spec only to say that we will have one class for each possibility with the proper attributes to configure keystone files? | 15:35 |
| EmilienM | I think we could have ::keystone::federation::saml | 15:35 |
| richm | yes | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | and ::keystone::federation::shib | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | etc | 15:36 |
| mfisch | yes | 15:36 |
| mfisch | agree | 15:36 |
| iurygregory | ok ^^ | 15:36 |
| richm | then a class/resource (might be a resource if there will be more than one instance) | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | iurygregory: I know it's confusing from what we said some time ago | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | but I think we did not realize all the logic in there | 15:36 |
| chem | you could load them from a keystone::federation one and share common attributes there | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | and for readability we could split it | 15:36 |
| iurygregory | no problem EmilienM | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | chem++ | 15:36 |
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| EmilienM | iurygregory: chem's proposal is also good if we have common parameters | 15:37 |
| richm | there is a lot of stuff in common for all federation, but there are also a lot of differences between the providers | 15:37 |
| iurygregory | chem, i think we doesn't have common attributes anymore =/ | 15:37 |
| richm | so it's going to be a matter of finding the right balance | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | for common params we could have ::keystone::federation | 15:37 |
| richm | right | 15:37 |
| iurygregory | parameters* | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | and then ::keystone::federation::<backends> | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | it's same thing as cinder volumes, etc or kind of | 15:38 |
| richm | yeah - common idiom used in a lot of opm | 15:38 |
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| chem | the split seems natural, but if the parameter are too different may end up hard to implement in puppet... | 15:39 |
| EmilienM | I think common params should live in ::keystone::federation | 15:39 |
| EmilienM | and specific backends config in ::keystone::federation::<backends> | 15:40 |
| iurygregory | i think one class for each possibilty is fine, or maybe we can have a puppet-federation module =P | 15:40 |
| EmilienM | iurygregory: nope - puppet-keystone is the right module for that | 15:40 |
| chem | and let the user call directly each backend or have each backend called from keystone::federation ? | 15:40 |
| EmilienM | side node, puppet-keystone won't configure the backend service itself (ie: configure any other service but keystone or WSGI) | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | chem: #1 | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | chem: I think? | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | or #2 would avoid mistakes | 15:41 |
| chem | EmilienM: oki, harder, but cleaner :) | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | chem: #1 would require good documentation | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | but make the code cleaner | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | #2 is easiers for our users but code is hard to maintain | 15:42 |
| EmilienM | what do we want? | 15:42 |
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| mfisch | let me catch up | 15:42 |
| mfisch | #1 is your proposal emilien | 15:43 |
| mfisch | ? | 15:43 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: for now, yes | 15:43 |
| richm | +1 for #1 | 15:44 |
| mfisch | I think that makes sense | 15:44 |
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| iurygregory | well i think the common attributes will not exist because we wont configure the backend service =) | 15:44 |
| mfisch | I could live with the other option too | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | iurygregory: let's go for #1 | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | iurygregory: ok | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | iurygregory: yeah, configuring the backend service is not up to openstack modules | 15:45 |
| EmilienM | I expect people using a specific puppet module for that | 15:45 |
| iurygregory | ok EmilienM ^^ | 15:45 |
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| iurygregory | So i need to change the spec only to say that we will have one class for each possibility with the proper attributes to configure keystone files? | 15:45 |
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| EmilienM | iurygregory: eventually | 15:46 |
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| EmilienM | ok we have 15m left | 15:46 |
| iurygregory | Should we change the spec after the code get merged or right now? | 15:46 |
| EmilienM | iurygregory: before | 15:47 |
| iurygregory | ok | 15:47 |
| EmilienM | a blueprint should be merged before any code in theory | 15:47 |
| EmilienM | in reality, we sometimes need to iterate :) | 15:47 |
| iurygregory | tks o/ | 15:47 |
| EmilienM | iurygregory: thx! | 15:47 |
| richm | I think it would be helpful to me (and probably a lot of people here) to see some sort of implementation in puppet (i.e. a WIP) | 15:47 |
| richm | . . . but there's no reason why the code and the blueprint cannot be worked on in parallel | 15:48 |
| EmilienM | richm: like in the example/*.pp ? | 15:48 |
| richm | one usually informs the other | 15:48 |
| richm | EmilienM: yes | 15:48 |
| EmilienM | richm: of course | 15:48 |
| EmilienM | it would be super useful for our users | 15:48 |
| EmilienM | maybe give an example of manifest with an external module is ok | 15:48 |
| iurygregory | ok ^^ | 15:49 |
| EmilienM | richm, iurygregory: anything else? | 15:49 |
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| iurygregory | not in this topic | 15:49 |
| EmilienM | #topic Open Discussion, Bugs, Reviews triage | 15:49 |
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| mfisch | looking through reviews and the Cinder one was a big one that we already discussed | 15:50 |
| EmilienM | note: for the Lab101: I think it should be an effort documented here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-wiki | 15:50 |
| EmilienM | if you have any outstanding patch, review or bug please raise it here | 15:51 |
| tiswanso | Hi all, I have a review out that I'm really depending on for tripleo support in Liberty. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222451 | 15:51 |
| tiswanso | It's to a cisco specific piece of ML2 conf | 15:51 |
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| iurygregory | Anyone that knows about acceptance can please review - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208054/ :D | 15:52 |
| EmilienM | tiswanso: nice, finally we get rid of erb templates :) | 15:52 |
| tiswanso | I'd like to also follow-on with a similar technique for another new config piece | 15:52 |
| tiswanso | :-) | 15:52 |
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| EmilienM | tiswanso: degorenko already reviewed it, but it's nits | 15:53 |
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| tiswanso | EmilienM: yes, I can get those nits done quick if required. | 15:53 |
| EmilienM | iurygregory: that's a big patch, I'll have a look later today :) | 15:54 |
| EmilienM | tiswanso: thanks | 15:54 |
| iurygregory | o/ thanks EmilienM | 15:54 |
| EmilienM | there is also a neutron patch (QOS), see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216654/ | 15:54 |
| iurygregory | the acceptance is just wsgi + federation | 15:54 |
| EmilienM | mfisch, crinkle: I would be happy to have a review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217352/ | 15:55 |
| skolekonov2 | EmilienM | 15:55 |
| skolekonov2 | thanks, I've tried to check how Neutron QoS works on devstack, and the changes which I'm adding in the patch should be enough to enable it. | 15:55 |
| mfisch | yes I started to look at that last night EmilienM I will finish today | 15:55 |
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| skolekonov2 | though it's not important change, just a Liberty feature | 15:55 |
| EmilienM | skolekonov2: good to know | 15:55 |
| EmilienM | anything else for today? | 15:56 |
| IBerezovskiy | EmilienM, we talked today about cookiecutter for puppet-murano. Is this CR https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223597/ what you've expected? | 15:56 |
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| EmilienM | IBerezovskiy: is that all your initial commit? | 15:57 |
| EmilienM | there is no manifests, etc | 15:57 |
| IBerezovskiy | EmilienM, this is in next commit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211043/ | 15:58 |
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| degorenko | EmilienM, no, all manifests will be added in dependency patch | 15:58 |
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| EmilienM | so you split in chunks | 15:58 |
| IBerezovskiy | yep | 15:58 |
| degorenko | yes, to avoid a biiig patches :) | 15:58 |
| EmilienM | works for me | 15:58 |
| IBerezovskiy | good to know :) | 15:59 |
| EmilienM | I +2'ed the initial commit | 15:59 |
| degorenko | yep :) | 15:59 |
| EmilienM | I'll review other later | 15:59 |
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| IBerezovskiy | thanks | 15:59 |
| EmilienM | anything else? | 15:59 |
| EmilienM | thanks for joining - have a great day | 15:59 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 15 15:59:47 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-09-15-15.00.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-09-15-15.00.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-09-15-15.00.log.html | 15:59 |
| crinkle | o/ | 16:00 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Kosmos | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 15 16:00:13 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Kosmos)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kosmos' | 16:00 |
| mugsie | so, who's here? | 16:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 16:00 |
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| elarson | o/ | 16:01 |
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| mugsie | #topic Action Items from last week | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action Items from last week (Meeting topic: Kosmos)" | 16:01 | |
| mugsie | mugsie do service arch | 16:01 |
| mugsie | so, that is done (just) | 16:01 |
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| mugsie | WIP is here: | 16:02 |
| mugsie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223663/ | 16:02 |
| xgerman | o/ | 16:02 |
| johnsom | Cool | 16:02 |
| mugsie | johnsom: dougwig can you both give it a review ? | 16:02 |
| johnsom | Will do | 16:02 |
| mugsie | and anyone lese of course - more feed back is better | 16:03 |
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| dougwig | yes, will do so this morning. (at qa sprint.) | 16:03 |
| mugsie | the diagram is in graphviz, so it can be edited in the future | 16:03 |
| mugsie | but it looks a bit wierd as a result | 16:03 |
| mugsie | mugsie add "Big Tent" to next weeks agenda | 16:04 |
| mugsie | did that :) | 16:04 |
| mugsie | #topic Big Tent | 16:04 |
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| dougwig | is this where we acclaim mugsie our ptl, so we can apply for inclusion? | 16:04 |
| mugsie | so, I know myself and dougwig were interested in getting into the big tent sooner rather than later - but johnsom and xgerman were not :) | 16:05 |
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| mugsie | I just see things being easier the sooner we get in ... | 16:05 |
| mugsie | thoughts? | 16:05 |
| johnsom | I just felt that we should have a better plan before going there, but if you and dougwig feel it's a good idea, let's do it | 16:05 |
| johnsom | I nominate mugsie for PTL | 16:06 |
| johnsom | grin | 16:06 |
| dougwig | seconded. | 16:06 |
| mugsie | :) | 16:06 |
| dougwig | any other contenders, or should be call him elected? | 16:06 |
| dougwig | /be/we/ | 16:06 |
| * johnsom things mugsie is wondering how that happened so fast | 16:06 | |
| mugsie | :) | 16:06 |
| xgerman | mugsie for president ah PTL | 16:06 |
| dougwig | #startvote mugsie for PTL? yes no | 16:07 |
| openstack | Only the meeting chair may start a vote. | 16:07 |
| * mugsie turns around with a bewhildered look | 16:07 | |
| johnsom | denied | 16:07 |
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| mugsie | #startvote mugsie for PTL? yes no | 16:07 |
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| openstack | Begin voting on: mugsie for PTL? Valid vote options are yes, no. | 16:07 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 16:07 |
| dougwig | #vote yes | 16:07 |
| johnsom | #vote yes | 16:07 |
| elarson | #vote yes | 16:07 |
| xgerman | #vote yes | 16:07 |
| mugsie | anyone else like to vote? | 16:08 |
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| mugsie | ok .. | 16:09 |
| mugsie | #endvote | 16:09 |
| openstack | Voted on "mugsie for PTL?" Results are | 16:09 |
| openstack | yes (4): dougwig, xgerman, johnsom, elarson | 16:09 |
| mugsie | \o/ | 16:09 |
| dougwig | :) | 16:09 |
| mugsie | thanks :) | 16:09 |
| mugsie | #action mugsie do goverence patch | 16:09 |
| mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Kosmos)" | 16:09 | |
| mugsie | any off agenda items? | 16:09 |
| mugsie | if not - can people please review the new spec? | 16:10 |
| dougwig | i'm doing the governance patch right now. | 16:10 |
| johnsom | Thanks for doing the service architecture, I will use this time to give it a pass | 16:10 |
| mugsie | would like a few iterations before the end of the week :) | 16:10 |
| mugsie | cool :D | 16:10 |
| KunalGandhi | @mugsie ..i joined in late.. can you provide a link to it | 16:10 |
| mugsie | KunalGandhi: sure, one sec | 16:11 |
| mugsie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223663/ | 16:11 |
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| mugsie | it is WIP, but I will be adding more content as we go. | 16:11 |
| mugsie | I want to see if people agree on the layout of the services first | 16:12 |
| mugsie | #link http://docs-draft.openstack.org/63/223663/1/check/gate-kosmos-specs-docs/8927647//doc/build/html/specs/liberty/sysarch.html | 16:12 |
| mugsie | ^ is the rendered version | 16:12 |
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| mugsie | ok - anything else before we call it a day? | 16:12 |
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| mugsie | OK - thanks all ! | 16:13 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 16:13 |
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