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| nikhil_k_ | sigmavirus24_awa: rosmaita flaper87 mclaren: courtesy meeting reminder | 14:00 |
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| flaper87 | o/ | 14:00 |
| nikhil_k_ | #startmeeting glance drivers | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 8 14:00:52 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil_k_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance drivers)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance_drivers' | 14:00 |
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| jokke_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| nikhil_k_ | So, we don't have a set agenda for this meeting as well. | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | I guess we're all heads down on bug hunting/fixing | 14:01 |
| nikhil_k_ | However, we had planned to discuss lite-specs so we can do that now if there's nothing more pressing. | 14:01 |
| jokke_ | was it this meeting we were supposed to set down the FFE status for the ova? | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | IMHO, other than the FFE we've scheduled, we can postpone this meeting until after RC1 | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | unless there's something urgent to discuss | 14:02 |
| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: not necessarily, but sometime today for sure | 14:02 |
| jokke_ | well logged by the meeting bot, I'd like to express my concerns | 14:02 |
| jokke_ | Based on the Kent's latest comment on the code change and lack of activity in the spec, I'm not too confident that it can make in time | 14:03 |
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| * nikhil_k_ fyi, rosmaita won't be able to make it to this meeting and is okay with our decision on the spec | 14:04 | |
| flaper87 | Since they are based in the West Coast and yday was a holiday in the US, I think it'd be fair to give them today to provide feedback on the spec and some updates on the review | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | I do understand jokke_'s concerns, though. | 14:05 |
| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: can you send a note as a reply to the ML thread asking them for a update on the spec ? | 14:06 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: My concern is that only thing what we got back from their Friday workday was Kent stating that it will take hime quite some time | 14:06 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: sure | 14:06 |
| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: that way we can be sure of their intent as the email from Malini on the thread said that they were committed | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: yes, I totally see and understand that. | 14:06 |
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| nikhil_k_ | I guess we are pretty much stuck on the reply | 14:07 |
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| sigmavirus24_awa | o/ | 14:07 |
| nikhil_k_ | flaper87: also, I am okay to discuss lite-spec later after rc1 | 14:08 |
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| sigmavirus24_awa | I'm down to discuss them either time too | 14:08 |
| sigmavirus24_awa | I think they hold value | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | afk -> | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k_: sigmavirus24_awa I'd love to see lite-spec happening for Mitaka | 14:08 |
| nikhil_k_ | here's the latest on the thread (hence, we are waiting until EOD today PDT) | 14:09 |
| nikhil_k_ | https://www.mail-archive.com/openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org/msg62564.html | 14:09 |
| sigmavirus24_awa | Oh I missed that there was a thread on this | 14:09 |
| sigmavirus24_awa | I've been head's down in cinder problems with openstack-ansible | 14:09 |
| nikhil_k_ | flaper87: I would also like to see some specs pre-approved for Mitaka | 14:09 |
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| flaper87 | nikhil_k_: yes, Ideally, we should start doing that asap. Some of them have been discussed enough | 14:10 |
| nikhil_k_ | I think we need to setup of pre-approved priority list, possibly at a virtual mini-summit (sync up) | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | but until rc1 is cut, I think our efforts would be better of spent focusing on liberty things | 14:10 |
| nikhil_k_ | that can establish which ones are preferred over other | 14:10 |
| nikhil_k_ | I am okay with the timeline as long as we do this planning | 14:11 |
| nikhil_k_ | one learning that came out of liberty was | 14:11 |
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| nikhil_k_ | we needed to support a few things for nova to use glance v2 | 14:11 |
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| nikhil_k_ | it would have been nice to have specs approved for such things so that nova spec gets approved for mitaka in time and people have code ready and merged in the earlier phase | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k_: tbh, that should've been a learning from kilo since I stressed that to the point of being annoying | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | :) | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | but anyway, I do agree we should prepare in advance | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | so that we don't get to M-2 w/o specs approved like we did in Liberty | 14:12 |
| nikhil_k_ | so, the feedback I got from Nova PTL was that there wasn't enough loopback to get images stuff to a acceptable state | 14:13 |
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| flaper87 | yup | 14:14 |
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| flaper87 | lets figure out what those things are and start discussions early in the cycle and before the summit | 14:14 |
| nikhil_k_ | So, first thing is we need commitment from someone dedicating time on this in Mitaka so that it does not fallback on the PTL | 14:14 |
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| nikhil_k_ | that person can be images liaison or we can have 2 of those this time around | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | I'm sure we can get someone at the summit | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | by that I mean, we can corner someone and force that person to do it | 14:15 |
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| flaper87 | That person will get gummybears in return | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:15 |
| nikhil_k_ | heh | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | jokes apart, yes. | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | I believe one of the proposals is to discuss this in a workroom | 14:16 |
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| nikhil_k_ | cool | 14:17 |
| nikhil_k_ | sigmavirus24: so, we were thinking of waiting on the ova spec until later today | 14:17 |
| nikhil_k_ | everyone else here is okay with that, did you have anything to add? ( sigmavirus24 ) | 14:17 |
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| sigmavirus24 | I have nothing to add | 14:18 |
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| sigmavirus24 | I think we need two images liasions with commitments from their companies to allow them to be those | 14:18 |
| nikhil_k_ | that sounds fair | 14:19 |
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| nikhil_k_ | if nothing else, | 14:20 |
| nikhil_k_ | thanks all! | 14:20 |
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| flaper87 | bye folks, short but productive | 14:20 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:20 |
| nikhil_k_ | #endmeeting | 14:20 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 8 14:20:46 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:20 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2015/glance_drivers.2015-09-08-14.00.html | 14:20 |
| nikhil_k_ | cya | 14:20 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2015/glance_drivers.2015-09-08-14.00.txt | 14:20 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2015/glance_drivers.2015-09-08-14.00.log.html | 14:20 |
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| EmilienM | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 8 15:00:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | #link agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20150908 | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | o/ | 15:00 |
| iurygregory | こんにちは - hello o/ | 15:00 |
| angdraug | o/ | 15:01 |
| mwhahaha | o/ | 15:01 |
| richm | hello | 15:01 |
| crinkle | o/ | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | ok, let's get start | 15:01 |
| spredzy | o/ | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | #topic announcements | 15:02 |
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| xarses | hi | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | #new approved spec: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/puppet-openstack-specs/specs/liberty/support-for-keystone-domain-configuration.html | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | #link new approved spec: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/puppet-openstack-specs/specs/liberty/support-for-keystone-domain-configuration.html | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | chem: good work ^ | 15:02 |
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| EmilienM | #link Tokyo Summit etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/HND-puppet | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | see my thread on ML, I would like people to start thinking about topics that we will discuss | 15:03 |
| chem | EmilienM: thanks :) | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | so we can start working on agenda | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | also, thank you for those who attended our sprint last week | 15:03 |
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| EmilienM | #link puppet sprint retrospective: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-liberty-sprint-retrospective | 15:04 |
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| EmilienM | I'll let more time (some days) so people can feed the etherpad | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | and during the next meeting we can do the retrospective | 15:04 |
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| EmilienM | #action emilien to wait more time and gathers data from sprint retrospective for next meeting | 15:05 |
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| _ody | o/ | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | #topic CI status | 15:05 |
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| EmilienM | just a quick status | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | here is the updated situation of our jobs: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-liberty-blocker | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | still some issues with packaging, but much better on trusty | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | so they'll vote again, for those which were disabled to vote | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | I've heard this morning RDO has now a new repo beside others... So we are waiting a bit they stabilize that | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | in the meantime, horizon & ceilometer modules have failing beaker jobs | 15:07 |
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| EmilienM | pabelanger is still working on multi node jobs | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | and I'm still trying to make pass the puppet-openstack-integration jobs on trusty this week | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | oh, I missed an announcement but anyway | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | anteaya is working on having a developer doc | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | #link puppet doc https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220555/ | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | so we will have docs.openstack.org/developer/puppet | 15:08 |
| spredzy | EmilienM, how would that work with current wiki? | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | and have content to explain how to contribute, doing reviews, testing, etc | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: the goal is to drop some wiki content | 15:09 |
| spredzy | Everything will need to be backported there? | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | yes | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | not everything I think | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | but some bits | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | and it will be discussed in the reviews | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | like, if you submit a patch, you'll have to explain what you want to drop from the wiki | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | so we make sure not dropping everything | 15:10 |
| spredzy | Ack. Hopefully we come out with a clear line between what goes in one and what goes in the ohter | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | one good example is docs.openstack.org/developer/tempest | 15:10 |
| * spredzy checks | 15:10 | |
| EmilienM | let's move on | 15:10 |
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| EmilienM | #topic "SERVICE DEFAULT" parameter in puppet modules | 15:11 |
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| EmilienM | spredzy: o/ | 15:11 |
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| EmilienM | #link SERICE_DEFAULT thread: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/073799.html | 15:11 |
| spredzy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221005/ | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221005/ | 15:11 |
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| spredzy | So now that all the necessary pieces have been merged we can use this feature | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: I WIPed the patch to make sure we discuss before | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: can you remind us a little of context? | 15:12 |
| spredzy | the review mentioned above is to highlight the benefits of it | 15:12 |
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| EmilienM | I personally understand what's going on, but I'm not sure everyone does | 15:12 |
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| spredzy | So what it does is : if the default parameter value is '<SERVICE DEFAULT>' the cinder_config will ensure absent on that parameter | 15:13 |
| spredzy | if it has a value will write it in the configuration fiel | 15:13 |
| spredzy | file* | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | so that means 'undef' default param will be replaced by <SERVICE DEFAULT> ? | 15:13 |
| spredzy | This way we avoid the if/else cases for each value, and we are always in sync with upstream | 15:13 |
| spredzy | EmilienM, yes | 15:13 |
| spredzy | EmilienM, also the value that default to the upstream default will be changed | 15:14 |
| spredzy | to <SERVICE DEFAULT> | 15:14 |
| spredzy | in the review above the logging.pp shows greatly how we gain in readability | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | I +1 the concept | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | I'm just wondering if you're going to handle all defaults value | 15:14 |
| spredzy | EmilienM, what do you mean? | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: we have a ton of default values | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | a lot of 'undef' as default values | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | so you're going to patch all modules using undef or false as default values to use this new string | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | so it will makes sure it's absent | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | right? | 15:16 |
| spredzy | using undef, false or the upstream default | 15:16 |
| spredzy | right | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | +1 | 15:17 |
| chem | +1 | 15:17 |
| spredzy | cinder is the canary module, so other module won't be touched as of now | 15:17 |
| spredzy | if the community agrees and after cinder has been prove to work after few days we can start moving everything | 15:17 |
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| EmilienM | spredzy: I guess silence means we can continue forward :) | 15:18 |
| spredzy | EmilienM, yep Im done :) | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | good | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | so the decision is: | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | we continue to work on puppet-cinder, gather feedback a little | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | and continue in other modules | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | after one or 2 weeks | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: keep us posted on ML | 15:19 |
| spredzy | EmilienM, yes and will do | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: awesome | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | #topic Status of keystone v3 work with domain naming | 15:20 |
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| EmilienM | richm o/ | 15:20 |
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| richm | so in my attempts to get gildub's domain naming patches working with acceptance testing, I found several bugs that I introduced into the code in my original v3 work :-( | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | the good news is, you found the solution :) | 15:21 |
| richm | yes, so I would like to get some reviews | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/puppet-keystone/+bug/1492843 | 15:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1492843 in puppet-keystone "domain name from id lookups return empty" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Richard Megginson (rmeggins) | 15:21 |
| richm | and 1492846 and 1492848 | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | ok so 221119, 221120 and 221121 are high priorities for review? | 15:22 |
| richm | yes | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | good to know | 15:22 |
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| richm | they need to be fixed in order that gildub's patches will pass acceptance | 15:22 |
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| richm | then I will rebase gildub's patches on top of these | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | richm: once these 3 patches merged, would it make sense to backport them to stable/kilo? | 15:22 |
| richm | EmilienM: I don't know - it will be difficult, and these bugs only affect deployments that are actually using domains, and setting a different default_domain_id | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | richm: I guess you can already rebase them on top of the 3rd patch, so we can see the actual result and see the bug is fixed | 15:23 |
| richm | EmilienM: right | 15:23 |
| chem | richm: I'm trying them right now : it seems that they are not fixing, I'm checking if my test env is ok and that the error is the same | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | richm: so backport is valid here | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | I guess people using domains in stable/kilo might want to change the default domain id | 15:24 |
| richm | EmilienM: ok | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | chem, richm: I would like you to rebase gilles's patches on top of richm's fixes | 15:24 |
| richm | so I will work on backport as well | 15:24 |
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| EmilienM | it will help reviewers and confirm it really works | 15:24 |
| richm | I've already started working on it | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | richm: if there is no code conflict, it should be easy but we never know... | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | richm: cool | 15:25 |
| richm | there is code conflict . . . | 15:25 |
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| EmilienM | #action people to review 221119, 221120 and 221121 | 15:25 |
| richm | conflicts with rebasing gildub's patches, and backporting | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | #action richm to rebase gilles's patches on top of 221121 | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | richm: :( | 15:25 |
| richm | then, I also found that indirection doesn't work as I thought it would | 15:26 |
| richm | so all of that indirection code I added sucks performance big time | 15:26 |
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| richm | it turns out that it is much, much better to simply call openstack to get the id for each resource every time | 15:26 |
| EmilienM | before cutting stable/liberty, we might need to warn people in the README | 15:26 |
| EmilienM | that keystone v3 is still experimental | 15:26 |
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| EmilienM | except if we fix it before our release | 15:27 |
| richm | after gildub's patches, it will be easy to remove the indirection and replace with osc calls | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | richm: good, let's call osc each time | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | if you have some demo of that? | 15:27 |
| richm | some demo of what? | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | I haven't tested personally | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | of both cases | 15:27 |
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| EmilienM | like, logs or something visual about perfs | 15:28 |
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| richm | I don't have any logs - but the key thing is that calling Puppet::Resource.indirection.find(name) calls self.instances _every single time_ | 15:28 |
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| EmilienM | and osc is faster than calls self.instances _every single time ? | 15:29 |
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| EmilienM | maybe there is something in Puppet we could report | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | _ody, Hunner ^ | 15:29 |
| richm | for example, if you have thousands of users and thousands of tenants/projects, calling Puppet::Resource.indirection.find(user) or (tenant) will retrieve all of them, then create provider objects for all of them, then finally loop through all of them to find the one single matching one | 15:30 |
| richm | that can't be good | 15:30 |
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| EmilienM | and osc client will just find it in the output result | 15:30 |
| richm | osc will just retrieve the one single user or tenant | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | ok it makes sense | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | richm: have you filled a bug? | 15:31 |
| richm | so, much less network traffic, internal puppet processing, etc. | 15:31 |
| richm | EmilienM: no, not yet | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | #action richm to write bug report about performances issues with indirection | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | richm: lot of work here :) | 15:32 |
| richm | yes | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | richm: glad to see CI is useful at least | 15:32 |
| richm | yes, very | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | we have time for open discussion & bugs today ! | 15:33 |
| angdraug | yay! | 15:33 |
| chem | note that indirection can still be useful when self.instances is not costly. | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | richm: anything else? | 15:33 |
| richm | EmilienM: no | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | chem: right, but it seems it can be | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | when having lot of resources | 15:33 |
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| chem | EmilienM: agreed, but it has to be case by case, not a general rule :) | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | chem: got it | 15:34 |
| richm | more of a guideline than a rule . . . | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | maybe add a note in the documentation would be useful | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | "if managing a lot keystone resources (users, tenants, etc) with puppet, be aware of perfs issues | 15:35 |
| richm | "Don't use indirection with openstack resources unless you know what you're doing." | 15:35 |
| EmilienM | lol | 15:35 |
| EmilienM | good | 15:35 |
| chem | +1 | 15:35 |
| iurygregory | +1 | 15:35 |
| EmilienM | richm: I think we can write it in the code directly | 15:35 |
| EmilienM | ok, I'll open discussion in a few | 15:36 |
| richm | where? | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | where we will make the change | 15:36 |
| _ody | EmilienM: I missed the context while getting some food. I'll read scrollback and get back to you. | 15:36 |
| richm | ok | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | from our current code to the new one | 15:36 |
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| richm | ok | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | #topic open-discussion | 15:36 |
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| EmilienM | not sure we need bug triage, regarding to the work done last week | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | by the way, special kudos to mfisch & mwhahaha | 15:37 |
| angdraug | we do, there's a couple of stuck commits we need to discuss | 15:37 |
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| angdraug | https://review.openstack.org/192721 | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | angdraug: oh yeah, I meant about bugs themselves | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | sure you can send patches here | 15:37 |
| angdraug | the patch ^ from degorenko is stuck for over a week now | 15:38 |
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| degorenko | o/ hey, also take a look on https://review.openstack.org/219284 and https://review.openstack.org/220090 please | 15:38 |
| EmilienM | I think 1/ not much people know Sahara here 2/ a very few people is using the module here -> so it's hard for this patch to get merged | 15:38 |
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| EmilienM | we need to look what's going on with the patches | 15:39 |
| degorenko | EmilienM, there is just a new services | 15:39 |
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| EmilienM | this is new features so I guess the only one thing we can do is ask people to review it | 15:40 |
| angdraug | EmilienM: it's had +1 from Sahara PTL, I'm pretty sure Sahara cores are happy with it | 15:40 |
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| EmilienM | angdraug: cool, now we have to validate puppet | 15:41 |
| angdraug | exactly | 15:41 |
| degorenko | ^ right | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | great feedback | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | do we have anything else outstanding? | 15:42 |
| angdraug | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211986/ | 15:42 |
| EmilienM | I got some feedback yesterday on IRC about missing basic documentation 101 to build openstack cloud with puppet | 15:42 |
| angdraug | nevermind, that last one just got merged ) | 15:42 |
| EmilienM | I was thinking at using future docs.openstack.org/developer/puppet for that | 15:42 |
| spredzy | EmilienM, this is no easy task | 15:43 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: it's not hard | 15:43 |
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| EmilienM | spredzy: I was thinking at documenting our CI manifest | 15:43 |
| EmilienM | ie: https://github.com/openstack/puppet-openstack-integration/blob/master/fixtures/scenario001.pp | 15:43 |
| EmilienM | which is a manifest you can run on your laptop and it will install openstack | 15:43 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: I think beginners are looking for a place to start, and giving an example of manifest can be useful | 15:44 |
| spredzy | EmilienM, well if that was just that you can simply throught that link a user will understand | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | we already have examples in our modules | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | but we might need a general manifest example | 15:44 |
| spredzy | EmilienM, I amjust unsure if they expect that everything to be explains or not | 15:44 |
| spredzy | ie need for rabbitmq, mysql, etc.. | 15:45 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: I think it's useful to document that ^ | 15:45 |
| EmilienM | because not everybody is familiar with it | 15:45 |
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| spredzy | But having a all-in-one example is def a good start Id say | 15:45 |
| EmilienM | and getting involved often requires to learn basic bits before sending a patch to our modules | 15:45 |
| spredzy | take it run it openstack it is at the end | 15:45 |
| EmilienM | yeah | 15:46 |
| EmilienM | devstack already provides a tool to run openstack on your laptop | 15:46 |
| EmilienM | having a manifest that can do that could be nice | 15:46 |
| spredzy | +1 | 15:46 |
| EmilienM | the target here is really people who want to get involved | 15:46 |
| EmilienM | but don't know how to start | 15:47 |
| spredzy | I think osad (ansible) is also providing something like that | 15:47 |
| EmilienM | nice | 15:47 |
| EmilienM | ok, do we have anything else for today? | 15:47 |
| EmilienM | raise your hand or I'll close the meeting in 1 minute | 15:48 |
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| EmilienM | thanks for attending | 15:49 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 15:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 8 15:49:49 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-09-08-15.00.html | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-09-08-15.00.txt | 15:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-09-08-15.00.log.html | 15:49 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Kosmos | 15:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 8 15:59:42 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Kosmos)" | 15:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kosmos' | 15:59 |
| mugsie | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GSLB#Agenda | 15:59 |
| johnsom | o/ | 15:59 |
| mugsie | #topic Roll Call | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Kosmos)" | 15:59 | |
| johnsom | Hi there | 16:00 |
| mugsie | I think we might need to wait for a few mins :) | 16:00 |
| mugsie | hey | 16:00 |
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| santosh___ | Hi | 16:01 |
| mugsie | hey | 16:02 |
| mugsie | we are just waiting for a few more people to file in | 16:02 |
| santosh___ | I hv sm query wrt neutron-lbaas ,barbican ..is the irc for it? | 16:03 |
| mugsie | dougwig xgerman - around? | 16:03 |
| xgerman | yo | 16:04 |
| mugsie | santosh___: nope - this is for Global Load Balancing | 16:04 |
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| mugsie | santosh___: xgerman might be able to direct you to the right place :) | 16:04 |
| johnsom | dougwig is out hunting | 16:04 |
| santosh___ | ye sure , Is there any metope for lbaas | 16:04 |
| xgerman | dougwig is hunting without cell phone and such | 16:04 |
| santosh___ | meetup* | 16:04 |
| mugsie | OK, I think this is all we are going to get :) | 16:04 |
| mugsie | #topic Actions from last week | 16:05 |
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| johnsom | santosh___ You can use the lbaas channel #openstack-lbaas | 16:05 |
| mugsie | all - provide feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218709/ | 16:05 |
| johnsom | I think Al's comments are valid | 16:06 |
| mugsie | ok, I did a review, but havent published it yet - I have added it to the agenda for later | 16:06 |
| mugsie | johnsom: yup | 16:06 |
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| mugsie | #topic Base Psudeocode for service | 16:06 |
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| mugsie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218709/ | 16:06 |
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| mugsie | OK - I don't think this is actually useful yet | 16:06 |
| mugsie | I think we need to define services first | 16:07 |
| mugsie | then work out code. | 16:07 |
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| mugsie | (i.e. - do we need separate API services, what service does the health checks, who does the updates to the GSLB plugin) | 16:07 |
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| mugsie | does anyone agree / disagree? | 16:08 |
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| johnsom | I agree | 16:09 |
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| mugsie | I can take the action to do this over the next week, if people are OK with that? | 16:09 |
| mugsie | I will update #openstack-gslb as I go | 16:09 |
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| mugsie | #action mugsie do service arch | 16:10 |
| johnsom | Sounds good | 16:10 |
| mugsie | OK, anything else on that from anyone? | 16:10 |
| mugsie | #topic Big Tent | 16:10 |
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| mugsie | basically a question - do we want to do it? | 16:11 |
| johnsom | We probably should have a good plan and code base before starting that process | 16:12 |
| xgerman | +1 | 16:12 |
| mugsie | well, with the new requirements, we actually fit in right now | 16:12 |
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| mugsie | we wont get space in the Design summit for Tokyo (the space has been alocated), but it helps for publishing docs, and sepcs | 16:13 |
| mugsie | specs* | 16:13 |
| mugsie | there is no longer an "incubating" stage - as long as a project lives by the "4 Opens" they can apply, even with no code | 16:14 |
| mugsie | OK, I can shelve it for the meeting next week, and see if we have more people | 16:15 |
| johnsom | True, but I think we have more work to do before bothering with it. | 16:15 |
| mugsie | #action mugsie add "Big Tent" to next weeks agenda | 16:15 |
| mugsie | johnsom: yeah, probably... | 16:15 |
| mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 16:16 |
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| mugsie | anyone have any off agenda items? | 16:16 |
| johnsom | Nope | 16:16 |
| mugsie | OK | 16:17 |
| mugsie | short meeting :) | 16:17 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 16:17 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 8 16:17:26 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:17 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kosmos/2015/kosmos.2015-09-08-15.59.html | 16:17 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kosmos/2015/kosmos.2015-09-08-15.59.txt | 16:17 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kosmos/2015/kosmos.2015-09-08-15.59.log.html | 16:17 |
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