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| raginbajin | #startmeeting operators_ops_tools_monitoring | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 26 14:00:08 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is raginbajin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'operators_ops_tools_monitoring' | 14:00 |
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| pasquier-s | o/ | 14:01 |
| raginbajin | o/ | 14:01 |
| raginbajin | Just waiting for some more people | 14:01 |
| pasquier-s | ok | 14:02 |
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| raginbajin | link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-ops-tools-mon | 14:08 |
| raginbajin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-ops-tools-mon | 14:08 |
| raginbajin | #topic Operator Meeting Notes | 14:09 |
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| raginbajin | So there was a lot of great information that came out of the Operators Meetup last week. | 14:09 |
| pasquier-s | it looks like, you were there? | 14:09 |
| raginbajin | I want to see if we could capture some of these and start working to get these run down or find ways we can contribute though this workgroup | 14:09 |
| raginbajin | I was not :( | 14:10 |
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| pasquier-s | neither | 14:10 |
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| raginbajin | Ok. Is there anyone else in the room that is here for the Operator Ops Tools and Monitoring? | 14:11 |
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| raginbajin | Ok it doesn't seem like it. | 14:13 |
| pasquier-s | I've read somewhere in the etherpads that people suggested to move the meeting to a time that would be more friendly. | 14:13 |
| raginbajin | exactly | 14:13 |
| raginbajin | So, We can look to find another time | 14:14 |
| pasquier-s | seems that there not enough critical mass in Europe/East US :( | 14:14 |
| raginbajin | #action Find a later time in the day to accomodate West Coast people. | 14:14 |
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| raginbajin | yeah apparently. So I can look for a new time. | 14:14 |
| pasquier-s | anyway thanks for your efforts... | 14:15 |
| raginbajin | Yeah not a problem. Hopefully the new time will help and get some more people. there looked to be a lot of good comments and things we could help follow-up on | 14:16 |
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| raginbajin | Well it looks like there isn't going to be much to discuss today | 14:18 |
| raginbajin | I think we just end it today and this week I'll find some new times and post it to the operators list | 14:19 |
| raginbajin | to see if I could get some feedback on what works for people. | 14:19 |
| raginbajin | Maybe that will encourage some more people to join. | 14:19 |
| pasquier-s | yep | 14:19 |
| raginbajin | Alright. Thanks for joining though | 14:20 |
| raginbajin | Atleast it was one more person than last meeting. | 14:20 |
| pasquier-s | :-) | 14:21 |
| pasquier-s | bye | 14:21 |
| raginbajin | #endmeeting | 14:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:21 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 26 14:21:28 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:21 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_ops_tools_monitoring/2015/operators_ops_tools_monitoring.2015-08-26-14.00.html | 14:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_ops_tools_monitoring/2015/operators_ops_tools_monitoring.2015-08-26-14.00.txt | 14:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_ops_tools_monitoring/2015/operators_ops_tools_monitoring.2015-08-26-14.00.log.html | 14:21 |
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| zehicle2 | #meeting-start DefCore Flag12 | 15:03 |
| eglute | o/ | 15:03 |
| catherineD|2 | o/ | 15:03 |
| markvoelker | #startmeeting DefCore | 15:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 26 15:03:27 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markvoelker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
| zehicle2 | o/ | 15:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: DefCore)" | 15:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'defcore' | 15:03 |
| markvoelker | chair zehicle2 | 15:03 |
| barrett1 | o/ | 15:03 |
| markvoelker | #chair zehicle2 | 15:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: markvoelker zehicle2 | 15:03 |
| markvoelker | #chair eglute | 15:03 |
| zehicle2 | :) thanks Markl | 15:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute markvoelker zehicle2 | 15:03 |
| markvoelker | =) | 15:03 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker! | 15:04 |
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| eglute | #topic agenda | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: DefCore)" | 15:04 | |
| eglute | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreFlag.12 | 15:04 |
| zehicle2 | other items for the agenda? | 15:05 |
| eglute | i been out all week, so i don't have anything | 15:05 |
| zehicle2 | I was thinking we'd focus on new capabilities | 15:07 |
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| * markvoelker added links to the current capability patches to the etherpad | 15:08 | |
| eglute | ok, do you want to start with that or swift tests (as per agenda) | 15:08 |
| markvoelker | Is hogepodge here? | 15:08 |
| markvoelker | We deferred that one from last week b/c he was at the PAO ops meetup... | 15:08 |
| eglute | is there OpenStack SV going on? | 15:09 |
| eglute | he might be there | 15:09 |
| markvoelker | Yes, and he probably is. Defer again? | 15:09 |
| eglute | yes | 15:10 |
| zehicle2 | +1 | 15:10 |
| zehicle2 | I'm not ready to talk about it in his pace | 15:10 |
| markvoelker | Ok, on to capabilities | 15:10 |
| markvoelker | Oh wait...actually there's another item in the agenda first | 15:10 |
| markvoelker | The vendor data collection patch | 15:10 |
| catherineD|2 | markvoelker: I added the Heat patch still working on scoring ... | 15:10 |
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| markvoelker | Not sure we really have much to talk about there though....I started an ML thread on it which so far has generated one additional -1. | 15:11 |
| markvoelker | Might just need to let further d | 15:11 |
| markvoelker | iscussion on the ML happen. | 15:11 |
| scotticus | markvoelker i'm curious about the ML thread you posted. | 15:11 |
| scotticus | would discussion about that need to take place there? | 15:11 |
| markvoelker | scotticus: if folks want to discuss it here I'm fine with that, but might be nice to keep the discussion in one place.... | 15:12 |
| eglute | scotticus +1 on ML thread, but if you have questions might be faster here | 15:12 |
| scotticus | i guess the main question is, what are we going to be required to publish? | 15:13 |
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| scotticus | the configuration of the testbed? | 15:13 |
| scotticus | or production systems? | 15:13 |
| markvoelker | scotticus: Take a look at the patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207209/6/HACKING.rst | 15:13 |
| markvoelker | The way it's been discussed is that it's the testbed you're running refstack against | 15:14 |
| scotticus | got it. i think thats fair as long as it isn't production systems. | 15:15 |
| zehicle2 | and I've been moving towards allowing vendors to report the system they stay will pass the same tests | 15:15 |
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| zehicle2 | originally, my concern was that users would be able to replicate vendor results | 15:16 |
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| markvoelker | So, I've registered why I think that's not very good info given the stated purpose of the patch in the comments and on the ML. I won't get into that here again in the interest of time.... | 15:18 |
| scotticus | k | 15:18 |
| markvoelker | But I would be interested to hear how folks things that data baout one testbed run would allow "users to understand the requirements for deployable products and to know the resources available on hosted products." | 15:19 |
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| markvoelker | I'd suggest we take that up on the ML though, so as not to fragment the conversation further. | 15:19 |
| eglute | +1 | 15:19 |
| eglute | on to capabilities? | 15:19 |
| markvoelker | We're already spanning a gerrit review, an ML thread, an in-person meetup, and a couple of IRC logs. =) | 15:20 |
| markvoelker | eglute: +1 | 15:20 |
| eglute | #topic capabilities | 15:20 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210080/ network capabilities | 15:21 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213353/ Glance capabilities | 15:21 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213330/ Keystone capabilities | 15:21 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216983/ Heat capabilties | 15:21 |
| markvoelker | Those are the four we have now. I'll probably post one more small one for Nova today as well. | 15:22 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker | 15:22 |
| markvoelker | OF the four above, the network one is probably closest to landing and has had some good discussion. Would be good if we can start closing in on a final patch. | 15:22 |
| eglute | i will review today, thanks markvoelker | 15:23 |
| markvoelker | I have a todo to fill out the designated sections bits, and there's a little discussion about which tests should go with what capabilties I believe. | 15:23 |
| markvoelker | I'll have a closer look at the latter this afternoon. | 15:23 |
| eglute | so for " Aug 27 (S-2): ID new Capabilities [Lead by Community] <=== NEXT MILESTONE (T-minus 1 days from now)" milestone | 15:23 |
| markvoelker | eglute: Yep. If there are any other candidates for scoring, we need patches posted by tomorrow. | 15:24 |
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| markvoelker | We then have a month to complete the scoring. | 15:24 |
| eglute | cool | 15:24 |
| zehicle2 | neutron looks close | 15:24 |
| markvoelker | Thus far I haven't seen anything for Cinder (rockyg), Swift (hurricanerix), or other stuff. | 15:24 |
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| eglute | i think we are on track, assuming you dont want the patches landed by tomorrow i think | 15:24 |
| catherineD|2 | Will we have meetings to go over the scoring of the other just like what we did at defcore f2f for Neutron? | 15:24 |
| markvoelker | eglute: nope, no need to land them by tomorrow. | 15:24 |
| zehicle2 | beside neutron, are we expecting other caps for Tokyo? | 15:25 |
| markvoelker | catherineD|2: I am totally open to doing that, though folks should start reviewing them in Gerrit immediately. | 15:25 |
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| markvoelker | I will be unable to host any scoring meetings next week on account of VMworld though. | 15:25 |
| markvoelker | zehicle2: I guess that depends on the scoring. =) The patches posted indicate that there's a case for more capabilties to be added, but we need to see how the score. | 15:26 |
| zehicle2 | IMHO, shared screen meetings for scoring are productive - good to have them setup | 15:26 |
| zehicle2 | markvoelker: ok | 15:26 |
| zehicle2 | FWIW - I like having them broken into individual files | 15:27 |
| catherineD|2 | zehicle2: +1 | 15:27 |
| zehicle2 | I did not get a chance to check your scoring code | 15:27 |
| eglute | +1 on individual files | 15:27 |
| markvoelker | zehicle2: no worries, it was merged last week | 15:28 |
| hurricanerix | markvoelker: I am in another meeting right now, so I have missed most of the discussion, but if you need anything from Swift, can I talk with you about it after the meeting? | 15:28 |
| markvoelker | hurricanerix: sure, I'll be around. Basically we just wanted to remind you that if you plan to propose any additional Capabilities for Swift in the next Guideline, tomorrow is the deadline to get a patch posted. | 15:29 |
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| zehicle2 | on quick review, it looks like the glace v1 caps scores are high enough too | 15:30 |
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| hurricanerix | Ok, thanks. I'll check with the PTL to see if anything needs to be done. | 15:30 |
| markvoelker | zehicle2: which reminds me | 15:30 |
| markvoelker | zehicle2: We may want to have a discussion about Criteria weighting at some point. | 15:31 |
| zehicle2 | you have reason to think we should adjust? | 15:31 |
| markvoelker | zehicle2: right now, all Criteria are weighted approximately equally and I'm starting to think that maybe shouldn't be the case | 15:31 |
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| markvoelker | For example, with Glance v1.... | 15:31 |
| zehicle2 | happy to review/discuss - it's always a good idea to check and reflect | 15:31 |
| zehicle2 | markvoelker: I was waiting to get some data - would be happy to review it | 15:32 |
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| zehicle2 | FWIW, we'd likely want to have all the existing caps setup in the current format to play w/ different weights | 15:32 |
| markvoelker | It scored 0 on TC future direction, and has already been replaced by v2 for some time. It seems weird to make it mandatory at this stage. | 15:32 |
| markvoelker | I haven't thought about this a whole lot yet, so no need to discuss it today, but I have some ideas percolating. | 15:33 |
| zehicle2 | the rules are setup so that we can overrule scores | 15:33 |
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| zehicle2 | in the past, we did not want TC direct to trump everything else. | 15:33 |
| markvoelker | Oh, and FWIW: the scoring script just reads the scoring weights right out of the JSON file, so it's fairly trivial to play with different weights locally. | 15:33 |
| zehicle2 | ok, I made a bad assumption that you used the scoring pages | 15:34 |
| markvoelker | zehicle2: Nope, it grabs them striaght out of the JSON. E.g. https://github.com/openstack/defcore/blob/master/2015.next.json#L1671-L1731 (or whichever JSON file you tell it to use; .next is just the default) | 15:35 |
| markvoelker | So anyway, back to more immediately actionable things. =) Scoring meetings: do we want them? I'm happy to set one up for week after next if so. | 15:37 |
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| markvoelker | Next week I think both Egle and I are out at VMworld, but we can use that time to have folks do preliminary reviews in Gerrit. | 15:37 |
| eglute | yes, I will be at VMworld | 15:37 |
| zehicle2 | markvoelker: yes, I think we need them | 15:38 |
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| markvoelker | Ok. Our old timeslot for that was Wednesday at 2pm EDT = 1pm CDT = 11am PDT. That still ok with folks? | 15:39 |
| zehicle2 | I'd also be interested to talk about weights | 15:39 |
| zehicle2 | could we use this time and just add a voice/screen? | 15:40 |
| zehicle2 | I don't know that we have so much business - we could dedicate meetings to scoring | 15:40 |
| zehicle2 | the other slot is OK too - this one is already blocked out for me | 15:40 |
| * markvoelker could do either and will defer to group consensus | 15:41 | |
| markvoelker | eglute: catherineD|2: your thoughts? | 15:41 |
| eglute | i am ok with either as well | 15:41 |
| catherineD|2 | I prefer this time slot .. | 15:42 |
| markvoelker | OK, so we'll plan on not having a separate scoring meeting but instead using this time, starting week after next | 15:42 |
| markvoelker | Sound good? | 15:42 |
| markvoelker | And if we need to continue discussion, try to keep the other slot clear on your calendars and we'll meet again if necessary. | 15:43 |
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| eglute | +1 | 15:43 |
| catherineD|2 | markvoelker: +1 | 15:43 |
| markvoelker | In the meantime: | 15:43 |
| catherineD|2 | just a time check ... could we allow sometime for RefStack update here ... | 15:43 |
| markvoelker | #action everyone review the four existing scoring patches | 15:43 |
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| markvoelker | I think that's all we need to discuss today for capabilities, so....chairs? Skip to RefStack? | 15:44 |
| zehicle2 | I'd ask people to +0 on existing patches to show we've got activity | 15:44 |
| eglute | yes, refstack | 15:44 |
| catherineD|2 | thank you!! | 15:44 |
| eglute | #topic refstack | 15:44 |
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| catherineD|2 | RefStack can now upload data with signed user ... with that we now support delete uploaded data by the user ... | 15:45 |
| zehicle2 | to an extent, we could merge the working documents | 15:46 |
| catherineD|2 | Once uploaded, user can decide to share the data with community anonymously .... | 15:46 |
| * zehicle2 would like to see the working docs landed | 15:46 | |
| zehicle2 | that would let us discuss individual utems | 15:46 |
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| zehicle2 | markvoelker: eglute do you object if we land the working files? | 15:47 |
| eglute | +1 | 15:47 |
| markvoelker | catherineD|2: cool. Any docs on how to use those features? | 15:47 |
| catherineD|2 | I would like to disable the feature to allow upload data anonymously .... since data can now share anonymously ... | 15:47 |
| zehicle2 | sorry catherineD|2 .... I'll hold that. please keep goin in RefStack | 15:47 |
| zehicle2 | catherineD|2: +1 on auth'ed uploads | 15:48 |
| markvoelker | catherineD|2: I presume by default uploads are not shared? | 15:48 |
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| catherineD|2 | zehicle2: yep so it would be more responsible data upload ... | 15:48 |
| * zehicle2 thinking about that more deeply | 15:48 | |
| markvoelker | Err...are shared anonymously? | 15:48 |
| catherineD|2 | markvoelker: correct default is not shared | 15:49 |
| markvoelker | ok | 15:49 |
| markvoelker | neat | 15:49 |
| zehicle2 | the uploaded data is postive results only? | 15:49 |
| catherineD|2 | markvoelker: yes share is anonymously until we implement vendor registration process .. | 15:49 |
| markvoelker | I have some folks who will be running tests this week or next, so would be happy to try that out. | 15:49 |
| catherineD|2 | zehicle2: yes only pass data | 15:49 |
| catherineD|2 | passed test names .. | 15:50 |
| zehicle2 | the biggest risk would be that incomplete vendor results would be shared | 15:50 |
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| zehicle2 | individual uploads are not authorative | 15:51 |
| catherineD|2 | with that, we are ready to implement vendor registration ... which I need spec fron DefCore and the foundation .. | 15:51 |
| eglute | catherineD|2 what do you have in mind for that | 15:51 |
| zehicle2 | I'm OK as long as vendors get to pick/approve which results are attributed to them | 15:51 |
| catherineD|2 | zehicle2: data can only be shared if user (vendor) decide to share them | 15:51 |
| zehicle2 | perfect | 15:52 |
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| catherineD|2 | with allowing anonymously upload we have no way to clean up the data ... | 15:52 |
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| zehicle2 | I don't see any downsides - the people uploading data expect it to be public at some point. | 15:53 |
| catherineD|2 | eglute: What I am not clear about vendor registration is who will be authorized to associate vendor to user ... | 15:53 |
| eglute | catherineD|2 i think foundation should do that manually, at least for now | 15:53 |
| eglute | and by foundation, i mean hogepodge | 15:54 |
| eglute | :) | 15:54 |
| catherineD|2 | eglute: ++1 I think it should be foundation | 15:54 |
| eglute | right | 15:54 |
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| catherineD|2 | because user can change company ... and how do we control that? | 15:54 |
| * markvoelker starts pondering about results signed using keypairs so vendors can just control who they give keys to within their orgs, and can rotate keys when employees change | 15:55 | |
| eglute | right, it will have to be manual | 15:55 |
| eglute | or what markvoelker said. but that assumes companies are that well organized | 15:55 |
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| catherineD|2 | markvoelker: actually data is control via keypairs ... | 15:56 |
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| catherineD|2 | RefStack would like to have a spec before any implementation on this ... | 15:57 |
| catherineD|2 | this is 1 of the 2 remianing action item for Liberty for RefStack .. | 15:57 |
| markvoelker | catherineD|2: Ok, can you draft up an email to the ML explaining what you need from us and/or the Foundation? | 15:57 |
| markvoelker | (we're down to 3 minutes here) | 15:57 |
| catherineD|2 | markvoelker: OK | 15:58 |
| markvoelker | I'll be happy to help draw something up | 15:58 |
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| markvoelker | Though, per earlier, next week's pretty much a wash for me. =/ | 15:58 |
| zehicle2 | I'd like to jump back to merging the working cap docs | 15:58 |
| zehicle2 | they are working materials | 15:58 |
| zehicle2 | and I think they are in a state that we can take patches on details instead of the whole doc | 15:58 |
| markvoelker | zehicle2: I'd prefer not to merge the network one since there's already good discussion going on in that review | 15:59 |
| zehicle2 | ok | 15:59 |
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| markvoelker | Line item comments are working well there | 15:59 |
| markvoelker | One last thing before time expires on us: could we land this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215263/2 | 15:59 |
| markvoelker | Until we do, nobody can certify against .07 unless they're running Xen. | 15:59 |
| markvoelker | ....aaaand we're out of time. =) | 16:00 |
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| zehicle2 | markvoelker: yes, I think so | 16:00 |
| markvoelker | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 26 16:00:27 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2015/defcore.2015-08-26-15.03.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2015/defcore.2015-08-26-15.03.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2015/defcore.2015-08-26-15.03.log.html | 16:00 |
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| zehicle2 | markvoelker: we cannot remove the cap detail yet - has to stay in while it's depricated | 16:02 |
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| sdake | #startmeeting kolla | 16:30 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 26 16:30:31 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:30 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:30 |
| sdake | #topic kolla | 16:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kolla (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:30 | |
| harmw | hi! | 16:30 |
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| SamYaple | o- | 16:31 |
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| akwasnie1 | hi :) | 16:31 |
| inc0 | good evening | 16:31 |
| mandre | hi | 16:31 |
| rhallisey | hi | 16:31 |
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| rhallisey | welcome back mandre :) | 16:31 |
| mandre | back in business :) | 16:32 |
| sdake | waiting 2 more mins | 16:32 |
| sdake | hey mandre welcome back to th eland of the lving :) | 16:32 |
| harmw | could you paste the agenda link sdake ? | 16:32 |
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| pbourke | hi | 16:33 |
| sdake | the agenda has not been updated | 16:33 |
| sdake | so i am going to fly by seat of pants | 16:33 |
| harmw | ok, cool | 16:33 |
| mandre | sdake, indeed I feel so alive after my vacation | 16:33 |
| sdake | sorry guys been really busy the lsat week gtting prepped for an internal demo | 16:33 |
| harmw | seat of pants, interesting | 16:33 |
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| sdake | #topic annuncements | 16:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "annuncements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:33 | |
| sdake | I may have announced this already, but liberty3 deadline is aug31-sept3 (in that range) | 16:34 |
| sdake | rc1 is September 25th (FIRM DEADLINE) | 16:34 |
| sdake | we will have two rcs after 9no code in these rcs | 16:34 |
| sdake | on 1 week intrenvals | 16:34 |
| sdake | and then we relesae | 16:34 |
| harmw | so thats this monday and the thursday after | 16:35 |
| sdake | so bluerptins = ok for liberty-3, rc1, no bluerpints in rc2, rc3 | 16:35 |
| sdake | harmw its august bro ;) | 16:35 |
| sdake | oh you mean liberty-3 | 16:35 |
| harmw | aug31, thats moonday | 16:35 |
| harmw | yep :) | 16:35 |
| sdake | ya | 16:35 |
| harmw | just saying its next week :) | 16:35 |
| sdake | ya get cracking pls :) | 16:36 |
| sdake | annuncement #2 is w ewill be getting design summit space if we request it | 16:36 |
| * jpeeler is here | 16:36 | |
| sdake | we have a 15 minute brainstorming session on the topic | 16:36 |
| sdake | timeboxed! | 16:36 |
| sdake | we will stack rank and organize our sessions in our next meeting fo a 15 minut esssion (not timeboxed) | 16:37 |
| sdake | any other community members hve announcements? | 16:37 |
| inc0 | today we get info which sessions landed right? | 16:38 |
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| sdake | i havn'e tchcked my mail | 16:38 |
| inc0 | summit sessions I mean | 16:38 |
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| sdake | we cna discuss at open discussion | 16:39 |
| sdake | #topic liberty 2 status | 16:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "liberty 2 status (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:39 | |
| sdake | 20 minute timebox on this one - until 10:00 | 16:40 |
| sdake | #link https://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/liberty-3 | 16:40 |
| harmw | liberty3, right | 16:40 |
| sdake | i pushed all blueprints not in good progress or higher into rc1 | 16:40 |
| sdake | we will sort out rc1 either this meeting or next | 16:41 |
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| sdake | with vbel's work this one looks good to close https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/build-script | 16:41 |
| sdake | samyaple thoughts? | 16:42 |
| harmw | build.py seems solid, yes | 16:42 |
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| mandre | there is still a patch in the queue | 16:43 |
| sdake | my take on build.py is to let it simmer in the operator community and see what requts come in | 16:43 |
| sdake | but i dont want to keep blueprints open for months that rae essentially done | 16:43 |
| sdake | its bad for managing a project | 16:43 |
| sdake | a blueprint should be competable in one cycle if not it shouldbe decomposed | 16:43 |
| mandre | the patch to remove tiered building, i believe it also has some fixes | 16:44 |
| sdake | samyaple must be afk | 16:44 |
| SamYaple | im heere sorry | 16:44 |
| mandre | SamYaple will confirm | 16:44 |
| SamYaple | feel asleep | 16:44 |
| sdake | ya i'm not suggesting closing righ tthis second | 16:44 |
| * SamYaple reading | 16:44 | |
| sdake | i am suggesting closing on aug 31st | 16:44 |
| sdake | and opening up wht remain as bug | 16:44 |
| sdake | since it looks feature complete to me | 16:44 |
| SamYaple | im ok with closing build-script once current patches merge (this includes git) | 16:45 |
| sdake | right | 16:45 |
| sdake | ok that work needs to mege before 31st | 16:45 |
| SamYaple | yup | 16:45 |
| SamYaple | addressing pbourkes all comment now | 16:45 |
| pbourke | has anyone found the level of output is not as useful | 16:45 |
| pbourke | maybe not time for discussion, but it would be last major gripe I have | 16:45 |
| SamYaple | pbourke: i have a wip logging update locally | 16:46 |
| sdake | that is gold plating pbourke | 16:46 |
| rhallisey | pbourke, it's a bit verbose agreed | 16:46 |
| sdake | we cn open a gold plating bug for that | 16:46 |
| pbourke | rhallisey: its not verbose enough, in the case of an error, it often doesn't tell you why | 16:46 |
| sdake | ok moving on, agreed to close before 31st assuming the work finishes | 16:46 |
| SamYaple | agree | 16:46 |
| sdake | if the work doesn't ifinish we will clsoe and open new blueprints | 16:46 |
| pbourke | but yeah no objection to closing out by aug | 16:46 |
| sdake | or bugs | 16:46 |
| sdake | or whatever | 16:46 |
| sdake | pbourke would you do the honors on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/ansible-swift | 16:47 |
| rhallisey | pbourke, ya it just kinda screams error everywher | 16:47 |
| pbourke | sdake: done :) | 16:47 |
| sdake | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/install-from-ubuntu | 16:48 |
| sdake | whats lefet on this one? | 16:48 |
| sdake | samyaple ^^ | 16:48 |
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| sdake | ok moving on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/add-proxy-to-dockerfiles | 16:49 |
| sdake | this is done from what I can tell | 16:49 |
| sdake | any objection to marking it completed? | 16:49 |
| sdake | vbel ^^ | 16:49 |
| SamYaple | sdake: i have to update the source files for the ubuntu one | 16:49 |
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| SamYaple | thats it | 16:50 |
| SamYaple | patches will be up tomorrow | 16:50 |
| harmw | sdake: I believe there was someone in #kolla the other day actually using it, with succes | 16:50 |
| sdake | nice | 16:50 |
| sdake | a ctually using ubunut from source? | 16:50 |
| sdake | ya I think sam wnats to gold plate it :) | 16:50 |
| SamYaple | no | 16:50 |
| SamYaple | it has to change | 16:50 |
| SamYaple | its not goldplating | 16:50 |
| SamYaple | i updated teh base and i have to update the rest | 16:51 |
| sdake | expand | 16:51 |
| sdake | ok well if its done before 31st i'm good :) | 16:51 |
| SamYaple | i changed /usr/local/lib/python2.7 to /usr/lib/python2.7 | 16:51 |
| SamYaple | it will | 16:51 |
| SamYaple | its fine | 16:51 |
| sdake | nice | 16:51 |
| SamYaple | its to match centos and build the same | 16:51 |
| sdake | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/ansible-heat | 16:51 |
| sdake | this blueprint needs the latest patch pushed to gerrit | 16:52 |
| sdake | and to be set to needs code review | 16:52 |
| sdake | samyaple found that heat has a regression | 16:52 |
| sdake | nothing we can do about regressions | 16:52 |
| harmw | maybe pin to an older HEAT version | 16:53 |
| sdake | exceptpatch a hac to fix it | 16:53 |
| harmw | or that... | 16:53 |
| sdake | we can't pin rdo | 16:53 |
| SamYaple | sdake: that isn't the true issue | 16:53 |
| SamYaple | that patch wont work that i submitted | 16:53 |
| SamYaple | i mean it will, but this might not be on heat | 16:53 |
| sdake | ok but we are in agreement the upstream is busted not our config? | 16:53 |
| SamYaple | maybe | 16:54 |
| SamYaple | it might br mairadb 10 or sqlalchemy | 16:54 |
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| SamYaple | be* | 16:54 |
| sdake | i am extending the time box by 10 minutds | 16:55 |
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| sdake | we need to get throug hthis list | 16:55 |
| sdake | ok so the heat code is ready for review | 16:55 |
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| sdake | but it may require follow up work | 16:55 |
| SamYaple | sdake: no i have a local chacnes | 16:55 |
| SamYaple | im so tired | 16:55 |
| SamYaple | will push up now | 16:55 |
| sdake | yes can you push a review tomorrow or today or whenever | 16:55 |
| sdake | and mark it ready for review | 16:56 |
| harmw | I can review tonight SamYaple | 16:56 |
| inc0 | I'll review tomorrow morning | 16:56 |
| sdake | gate ource builds - everything needed for that blueprint is in our repo | 16:56 |
| sdake | we have retry and all the tox magic | 16:56 |
| sdake | so i'm marking it done | 16:56 |
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| sdake | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/update-configs | 16:58 |
| sdake | samyaple what is neded here besides copy around the neutron agent | 16:59 |
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| SamYaple | i dont know | 17:00 |
| SamYaple | i think i updated it before | 17:00 |
| SamYaple | oh yea itll be done by L3 | 17:00 |
| SamYaple | i have to tweak a service config file | 17:00 |
| SamYaple | i forget which | 17:00 |
| sdake | I will have all commits in for this by L3 and then it can be closed --SamYaple | 17:00 |
| SamYaple | yea | 17:00 |
| sdake | ok i'll add a note about the neutron agents in there too | 17:00 |
| sdake | i got asked about that today during demo time | 17:01 |
| sdake | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/one-data-container | 17:02 |
| jpeeler | what demo are you speaking of sdake ? | 17:02 |
| sdake | this needs two things | 17:02 |
| sdake | jpeeler one i gave internally | 17:02 |
| sdake | one it needs rework to make the rabbitmq container to work properly | 17:02 |
| sdake | samyaple in essence the problem is osme of those bootstrap operations create files as the user root in /var/lib/mysql | 17:03 |
| sdake | they need to be created as the user mysql because mariadb drops to mysql user during runtime | 17:03 |
| SamYaple | there is a chown to take of that | 17:04 |
| sdake | also chown /var/lib/mysql needs to happen before the bootstrapping begins | 17:04 |
| sdake | no the chown doesn't take care of it | 17:04 |
| SamYaple | ah | 17:04 |
| SamYaple | well if it happens before, no | 17:04 |
| sdake | it doesn't matter where the chown happens | 17:04 |
| SamYaple | so they need ot be owned by a user and you cant chown them? | 17:04 |
| sdake | init db and mysql being up are intrespersed | 17:04 |
| sdake | so no way to insert a chown in there at the right "spot" | 17:05 |
| sdake | i think it can be just one sudo | 17:05 |
| SamYaple | we dont need to sudo it | 17:05 |
| sdake | but i was rushed this morning during debug so i didn't root cause the exact minimum said | 17:05 |
| sdake | what would you propose | 17:05 |
| SamYaple | i would propose talking about this friday | 17:05 |
| SamYaple | i ran into this issue with yaodu | 17:06 |
| sdake | sounds good | 17:06 |
| SamYaple | i just cant think | 17:06 |
| sdake | the other peice of work is a data container needs to be created for libvirt | 17:06 |
| SamYaple | heat and build.py remove tiering are up | 17:06 |
| sdake | and nova in general | 17:06 |
| sdake | we are still on liberty-3 blueprint review | 17:06 |
| sdake | tryin to get the tracker into a state where i understand where we are at | 17:06 |
| SamYaple | im sorry i meant the reviews, please continue | 17:06 |
| sdake | it sounds like we are in good shape for at the latest a september 3rd tag+releae | 17:06 |
| sdake | so i'll tackle these two problems with create one data container | 17:07 |
| sdake | beyond that does anyone need hlep with urrent blueprints? | 17:07 |
| sdake | we have a ccritical but | 17:08 |
| sdake | the ansible_em1 problem | 17:08 |
| sdake | I am going to push all ohher bugs to lbierty-rc1 on the 1st that are not in progress or confirmed | 17:08 |
| SamYaple | yea ill fix that | 17:08 |
| sdake | i am pushing all non-in-progress confirmed bugs to rc1 | 17:08 |
| sdake | on sept 3rd | 17:08 |
| SamYaple | if you filed a bug for the em1 thing set it to me | 17:08 |
| sdake | everyone understand? | 17:08 |
| sdake | samyaple will do when i get some r&r | 17:09 |
| SamYaple | yea ill fix it when i get some ;) | 17:09 |
| sdake | i think i'm starting to see double :) | 17:09 |
| SamYaple | yea my eyes are bleeding | 17:09 |
| sdake | please stay focused on bluerpitns first, critical bugs second that you are already workign on, then pick up critical confirmed bugs | 17:10 |
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| sdake | we will do the releae notes next wednesday | 17:10 |
| sdake | and assume a september 3rd releaes | 17:11 |
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| sdake | that takes care of liberty-1 ;) | 17:11 |
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| sdake | rather liberty-3 | 17:11 |
| sdake | #topic design session brainstorm | 17:11 |
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| harmw | prodution grade containers upgrades | 17:12 |
| sdake | last summit magnum got 4 fishbowl sessiosns (these dgo in the general summit invite) and 6-8 private sessions (these go in the genral sessions but you have to click around to find the details) | 17:12 |
| sdake | harmw | 17:12 |
| sdake | we ar edoing it in etherpad plz | 17:12 |
| sdake | link coming moment | 17:12 |
| harmw | oh sure :) | 17:12 |
| sdake | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-liberty-tokyo-design-sessions | 17:13 |
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| sdake | timebox 15 minutes -leaves no time for open discussion - sorry about that - we can discuss in #Kolla after | 17:14 |
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| sdake | please sign in the contributors section | 17:14 |
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| sdake | there are more then 4 people in the channel pleae sing in as a contirbutor | 17:16 |
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| sdake | mandre | 17:16 |
| sdake | jpeleer | 17:16 |
| SamYaple | i have nothing to contribute i cannot think | 17:17 |
| jpeeler | thinking | 17:17 |
| sdake | i need to knwo who contirbuted so i know if anyone was left out i'd like sessions ideas from | 17:17 |
| harmw | Ill only contribute suggestions :> | 17:17 |
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| mandre | do we have a strategy for building images for all projects under big tent? on demand? | 17:21 |
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| inc0 | it seems we have lot to talk about | 17:22 |
| rhallisey | hehe | 17:22 |
| harmw | indeed we do | 17:22 |
| harmw | quite a list :) | 17:23 |
| sdake | mandre please add a topic | 17:23 |
| sdake | this is a brianstorm | 17:23 |
| sdake | next week we will stack rank them | 17:23 |
| sdake | and some sessions may get cut | 17:23 |
| sdake | i'll ask for all the sessions we have and we will probably get less | 17:23 |
| sdake | the facilities are much smaller then typical ods of past | 17:23 |
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| inc0 | but we can have some of these discussions over sake | 17:25 |
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| sdake | whoever is green please read 8.2 | 17:25 |
| SamYaple | sdake makes everyone write thier names in a color and cant look at who is green :) | 17:26 |
| * harmw didn't even know it was green :p | 17:27 | |
| sdake | samyaple I was running on fumes about 6 hours ago | 17:27 |
| harmw | more like yellow-ish | 17:27 |
| SamYaple | oh i get it | 17:27 |
| SamYaple | i get it :( | 17:27 |
| akwasnie1 | guys and colors… | 17:27 |
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| sdake | ok guys try to organize stuff in bullets please | 17:27 |
| sdake | not just a huge dumping ground of ideas :) | 17:27 |
| inc0 | SamYaple, it's me, no worries it hurts | 17:28 |
| inc0 | no wonder* | 17:28 |
| SamYaple | youre just a trouble maker | 17:28 |
| SamYaple | im signing off guys | 17:29 |
| SamYaple | got my reviews in the queue, please review thanks | 17:29 |
| harmw | o/ SamYaple | 17:29 |
| inc0 | have a peaceful loss of conciousness SamYaple | 17:29 |
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| sdake | ok ending meeting | 17:33 |
| sdake | pleae continue on in the etherpad | 17:33 |
| sdake | thanks for coming folks | 17:33 |
| sdake | sorry so disorganized I hit the wall a day ago :) | 17:33 |
| sdake | and you guys are running me ragged :) | 17:33 |
| rhallisey | thanks sdake | 17:33 |
| sdake | #endmeeting | 17:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 26 17:33:47 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-08-26-16.30.html | 17:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-08-26-16.30.txt | 17:33 |
| akwasnie1 | thanks sdake | 17:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-08-26-16.30.log.html | 17:33 |
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| jokke_ | #startmeeting log_wg | 20:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 26 20:05:10 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jokke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'log_wg' | 20:05 |
| jokke_ | #topic Open Discussion | 20:05 |
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| jokke_ | I'll keep the meeting open for few. If someone is here for Log WG meeting, please highlight me | 20:06 |
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| jokke_ | #endmeeting | 20:28 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 26 20:28:08 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/log_wg/2015/log_wg.2015-08-26-20.05.html | 20:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/log_wg/2015/log_wg.2015-08-26-20.05.txt | 20:28 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/log_wg/2015/log_wg.2015-08-26-20.05.log.html | 20:28 |
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| dhellmann | jokke_: I have an internal meeting at our time slot now, so I was hoping we could talk about shifting the logging meeting by an hour either direction | 20:32 |
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