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| Hui | is this the kolla meeting channel? my first time | 15:12 |
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| sdake | in about 4 hour hui ;) | 15:13 |
| SamYaple | Hui: yes, but the meeting isnt for 45 mintues | 15:13 |
| sdake | 1 hour thatis | 15:13 |
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| Hui | I am confused. This week is even, right? | 15:14 |
| Hui | MEETING TIME: Wednesdays at 16:00 UTC (even weeks) 22:00 UTC (odd weeks) | 15:14 |
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| SamYaple | Hui: the meeting is at 1600 today, in 45 minutes | 15:15 |
| Hui | Hi, Sam. Thanks; I got the wrong conversion | 15:16 |
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| sdake | #startmeeting kolla | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 8 16:00:23 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| mfalatic | o/ | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:00 |
| sdake | #topic rollcall | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:00 | |
| mfalatic | oops | 16:00 |
| mfalatic | o/ | 16:00 |
| rhallisey | hi | 16:00 |
| inc0 | o/ | 16:00 |
| mstachow | o/ all | 16:00 |
| sdake | o/ folks - lots of progress in the code base yay ;) | 16:00 |
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| SamYaple | \o | 16:00 |
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| kevsi_ | Hi. | 16:01 |
| pbourke | o/ | 16:01 |
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| sdake | pretty sure jpeeler is on pto because of impending loss of freedom ;) | 16:02 |
| jpeeler | no i'm here still! | 16:02 |
| sdake | oh yay :) | 16:02 |
| SamYaple | /kick jpeeler | 16:02 |
| jpeeler | thanks for the ping | 16:02 |
| jpeeler | noooooooo | 16:02 |
| SamYaple | ;) | 16:02 |
| sdake | #topic announcements | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:02 | |
| sdake | this timeslot hs historically been at 16:00 UTC | 16:02 |
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| sdake | we are goingto try movin it 30 minutes later to make more people happy | 16:03 |
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| sdake | that will happen in 2 weeks | 16:03 |
| sdake | so not next meeting but the meeting after | 16:03 |
| sdake | i'll send an announcement to the ml | 16:03 |
| sdake | if the time is problematic now is your chance to speak up :) | 16:03 |
| sdake | the 2200 timeslot remains the same | 16:03 |
| inc0 | well, this one is late anyway | 16:03 |
| SamYaple | 2200 that one is problematic | 16:04 |
| SamYaple | :) | 16:04 |
| sdake | samyaple lets fine tuen that after we get 1630 solid ;) | 16:04 |
| SamYaple | i wont derail further | 16:04 |
| sdake | #2 - please register for kolla-palooza midcycle - link in #kolla topic | 16:04 |
| sdake | need an accurate count for dinner , hopefully by 9th of july ;) | 16:05 |
| sdake | (as in tomorrow) | 16:05 |
| sdake | any other announcements from folks? | 16:05 |
| pbourke | sdake: do remote attendees need to register? | 16:05 |
| sdake | pbourke please do so I can sort out logistics | 16:05 |
| sdake | but its not mandatory | 16:05 |
| pbourke | ok | 16:05 |
| sdake | that way I can send you a personal email with login info etc | 16:06 |
| sdake | we will probably use google groups or webex | 16:06 |
| sdake | webex scales better | 16:06 |
| sdake | but runs on linux poorly | 16:06 |
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| sdake | i'm going to try to find some usb handheld microphones prior to the event | 16:06 |
| sdake | if anyone has a suggestion on mic hardware, send me a private note at stdake@cisco.com pls | 16:07 |
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| sdake | #topic CI Status | 16:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI Status (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:07 | |
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| sdake | so still blocked on internal config for openvswitch | 16:08 |
| diga | O/ | 16:08 |
| sdake | anyone want to tackle this problem? | 16:08 |
| sdake | hey diga | 16:08 |
| diga | hi sdake | 16:08 |
| diga | I am working on that | 16:08 |
| diga | Will resolve that stuff by tomorrow | 16:08 |
| sdake | diga nnice, let me set arbitrary deadline of 15th for that ;) | 16:09 |
| diga | +1 | 16:09 |
| diga | sorry was too much busy from last two days | 16:09 |
| sdake | welcome to life ;) | 16:09 |
| diga | :) | 16:09 |
| sdake | cool so once that is unblocked samyaple has the multi-host setup for it ready to go I think | 16:09 |
| sdake | and we can put it in the gate | 16:09 |
| sdake | and be ready to functional test via smoke testing | 16:09 |
| jpeeler | yay | 16:09 |
| diga | yes | 16:10 |
| jpeeler | on that topic, is the new build script ready to be put in the gate? | 16:10 |
| sdake | jpeeler ya i think samyaple was going to hack on project-config to do it | 16:10 |
| SamYaple | jpeeler: i was thinking a test non-voting gate | 16:10 |
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| sdake | but if someone else wants to do it that would be fantastic | 16:10 |
| SamYaple | but i dont know how to do that | 16:10 |
| sdake | but we dont want to edit the existing gate | 16:10 |
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| sdake | we want a new one | 16:10 |
| SamYaple | yes | 16:10 |
| jpeeler | i can help SamYaple | 16:10 |
| sdake | jpeeler interested in that? | 16:10 |
| SamYaple | yay | 16:11 |
| SamYaple | i get to learn | 16:11 |
| sdake | #action jpeeler to help sam sot out new python script as a nonvoting gate | 16:11 |
| sdake | #topic Ansible Modules License Status | 16:11 |
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| sdake | so in essence we need modules that are licensed pglv3 but we can't use them | 16:11 |
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| sdake | because it affects our ability to get into big tent | 16:12 |
| sdake | so samyaple wrote his own ;) | 16:12 |
| sdake | samyaple can you give us a summary pls | 16:12 |
| SamYaple | sure | 16:12 |
| SamYaple | openstack-infra/shade is a library that allows generic wrappings for openstack environemnts | 16:12 |
| SamYaple | the ansible modules use shade | 16:12 |
| SamYaple | the modules are gplv3 licensed and cant be relicensed | 16:13 |
| SamYaple | i have built some "they do the job" modules in the meantime | 16:13 |
| SamYaple | they only add, no updates or deletes, but it should get us by | 16:13 |
| SamYaple | ansible 2.0 drops and we will be able to switch to the upstream modules | 16:13 |
| SamYaple | thats about everything | 16:14 |
| SamYaple | we are unblocked, but not 100% strength | 16:14 |
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| sdake | re ansible 2.0 drops and we will be able to use upstream modules - I need to run that by legal apparently samyaple | 16:14 |
| sdake | which is in progress | 16:14 |
| SamYaple | why they accepted OSAD | 16:14 |
| SamYaple | same deal | 16:14 |
| sdake | agree we are using same model as osad here with the modules - make our own | 16:15 |
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| sdake | but both of our projects need to work together to make sure we can use these new moduels with the legal team at the foundation | 16:15 |
| sdake | or it could affect our ability to use the trademark | 16:15 |
| SamYaple | what i am saying is the "new modules" will be just like any other ansible modules. | 16:15 |
| sdake | (which we want to be able to use) | 16:15 |
| SamYaple | and we use lots of baked in ansible modules | 16:16 |
| SamYaple | thats basically all ansible is, gplv3 modules | 16:16 |
| sdake | ya best not to thin about it until we are presented wit hthe problem ;) | 16:16 |
| pbourke | was going to say the same. they will essentially be like using 'copy' | 16:16 |
| SamYaple | fair | 16:16 |
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| pbourke | but best be safe | 16:16 |
| SamYaple | well move on | 16:16 |
| sdake | #tpoic Liberty-2 planning (#link https://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/liberty-2) | 16:17 |
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| sdake | #topic Liberty-2 planning | 16:17 |
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| sdake | #link https://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/liberty-2 | 16:18 |
| sdake | pls open | 16:18 |
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| sdake | lots of blue - yay :) | 16:18 |
| SamYaple | pls give me more blueprints | 16:18 |
| sdake | some purple in there - that is fantastic for only the first week :) | 16:18 |
| sdake | you definately need m0ar sam :) | 16:19 |
| sdake | so just a reminder our deadline is july 31st | 16:19 |
| sdake | can we get a quick update of two blueprints: | 16:19 |
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| diga | sdake: Need to talk about this BP - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/kolla-compose-script | 16:19 |
| sdake | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/ansible-service | 16:19 |
| sdake | diga ok hang tight bro | 16:19 |
| sdake | samyaple can you give us quick update on that | 16:19 |
| diga | ok | 16:20 |
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| SamYaple | we have 4 services done, mariadb,rabbitmq,keystone,glance (last two in code review) | 16:20 |
| SamYaple | I will be handling nova and neutron | 16:20 |
| SamYaple | then it will be funcitonal and the others can be handled in no particular order | 16:20 |
| sdake | who is tackling heat? | 16:20 |
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| sdake | heat needs to be in our core list as well | 16:21 |
| SamYaple | we have no assignes for these others yet. they would need constant rebasing | 16:21 |
| sdake | ok | 16:21 |
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| sdake | we willw ait for you to wrap up then on nova and neutron | 16:21 |
| SamYaple | it will probably be a week before we can do this async | 16:21 |
| sdake | and then we will ask people to volunteer for the remainder | 16:21 |
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| SamYaple | agreed | 16:21 |
| sdake | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/standard-start | 16:22 |
| sdake | the progress on this is fantastic | 16:22 |
| sdake | I think we are almost done here | 16:22 |
| sdake | everything is up for code review afaik | 16:22 |
| sdake | there may be a few lagging, so if you have implementation for this blueprint pls get her done this week ;) | 16:23 |
| sdake | diga shoot with your blueprint | 16:23 |
| diga | just want to discuss on - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/kolla-compose-script | 16:24 |
| sdake | that should bascially be a git mv | 16:24 |
| sdake | not much to that one | 16:24 |
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| diga | okay | 16:24 |
| sdake | did that answer your q? | 16:24 |
| SamYaple | sdake: it also includes writing the kolla-ansible script | 16:24 |
| SamYaple | "Rename the kolla script to kolla-compose and create a new kolla-ansible script to manage playbook operation." | 16:25 |
| sdake | samyaple there is a separate blueprint for kolla-ansible | 16:25 |
| diga | yepm yep | 16:25 |
| SamYaple | ill edit the BP then | 16:25 |
| sdake | sounds good | 16:25 |
| sdake | ya guys when i write these blueprints i dont always do a perfect job | 16:25 |
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| sdake | feel free to edit them to your liking ;) | 16:25 |
| diga | :) | 16:25 |
| sdake | liberty 2 is off to a great start | 16:26 |
| sdake | anyone know status of cinder or horizon? | 16:26 |
| sdake | rhallisey on cinder ? | 16:26 |
| sdake | since these were broken in liberty 1 release | 16:26 |
| pbourke | sdake: a recent joiner to our team has a fix that apparently fixes horizon | 16:26 |
| sdake | nice! | 16:26 |
| rhallisey | sdake, nothing has changed, I just added oslo in so it won't sit in restarting | 16:26 |
| sdake | rhallisey does that fix cinder? | 16:27 |
| pbourke | sdake: he's in the process of filing a bug and creaing a review | 16:27 |
| sdake | pbourke there is a bug already | 16:27 |
| sdake | pbourke what was his name do you recall? | 16:27 |
| pbourke | aha | 16:27 |
| sdake | or her name | 16:27 |
| rhallisey | I'm assuming the iscsi issue is still hanging around, so no not yet | 16:27 |
| rhallisey | I've been cleaning the 200 docker images off my machine for the last 2 hours | 16:27 |
| sdake | rhallisey ack - if you need some kind of help feel free to ask in #olla ;) | 16:27 |
| rhallisey | sure thing | 16:28 |
| sdake | fastest way to do that is rm -rf /var/lib/docker ;) | 16:28 |
| sdake | and resstart docker | 16:28 |
| rhallisey | that would do it | 16:28 |
| rhallisey | lol | 16:28 |
| sdake | thats what I use ;) | 16:28 |
| rhallisey | drop a bomb on docker lol | 16:28 |
| * jpeeler has wondered if that would work | 16:28 | |
| sdake | #topic Midcycle sesion planning | 16:29 |
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| sdake | jpeeler it works fantastically | 16:29 |
| pbourke | sdake: his name is mark I'll get him to give you a shout about it | 16:29 |
| sdake | #link ttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-kolla-midcycle-planning | 16:29 |
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| sdake | pbourke just point him at the correct existing bug | 16:29 |
| pbourke | will do | 16:30 |
| sdake | if you woudln't mind :) | 16:30 |
| rhallisey | sdake, missing an h on the paste | 16:30 |
| sdake | if folks can open that midcycle planning page | 16:30 |
| rhallisey | 'ttps' | 16:30 |
| sdake | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-kolla-midcycle-planning | 16:30 |
| SamYaple | you have to break the code rhallisey | 16:30 |
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| markd_ | sdake: just creating the horizon bug that Pbourke mentioned. is there a bug already on the Horizon login ? | 16:32 |
| sdake | ok line 9 guys | 16:33 |
| pbourke | markd_: check your pidgin ;) | 16:33 |
| sdake | markd_ yes let me get with you after meeting ok? | 16:33 |
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| markd_ | Ok | 16:33 |
| sdake | or pbourke can point the bug out to you | 16:33 |
| sdake | so add design sessiosn you would like to discuss at line 9 | 16:33 |
| sdake | each session is 50 mins in length | 16:33 |
| sdake | with a 10 min break | 16:33 |
| sdake | maybe 45/15 , have to see how thigns are going ;) | 16:34 |
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| SamYaple | diga: for the checks, what do you mean? | 16:40 |
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| diga | I mean, when we create containerfor services - Need to have check whether service is running properly & when it goes down kolla should know | 16:42 |
| SamYaple | diga: "kolla should know" hmmm well have to talk about what kolla is then | 16:43 |
| diga | SamYaple: I dont know but this is something important for multinode depoyment model | 16:43 |
| SamYaple | agreed, im not trying to kick it away :) | 16:43 |
| sdake | we will wrap this up at 50 after | 16:43 |
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| diga | I mean it should return the status of conainers | 16:44 |
| sdake | then have anothe collaborative editing session at our next meeting to get wit hteh folks that can only make our 2200 slot | 16:44 |
| SamYaple | after it deploys, yes. actively check containers as if kolla were a service? i would argue no | 16:44 |
| sdake | please add more detail for lines 23/24/25/26 etc ;) | 16:44 |
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| SamYaple | Session Topic: How to pronouce Kolla | 16:50 |
| sdake | haha | 16:50 |
| rhallisey | nice | 16:50 |
| sdake | who nows ;) | 16:50 |
| sdake | #topic open discussion | 16:50 |
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| sdake | ok thanks folks that was really good | 16:50 |
| SamYaple | were all going to show up and say it differently | 16:50 |
| sdake | we will finish the job on that next week | 16:50 |
| jpeeler | hey, so i have a pending blueprint i need to write | 16:50 |
| sdake | and have a final schedule published friday of next week | 16:50 |
| jpeeler | it's a container that uses heat to deploy our kolla containers | 16:50 |
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| jpeeler | i just wanted to mention it here... since i've been mostly silent about it. apologies | 16:51 |
| jpeeler | plan on writing it up today | 16:51 |
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| SamYaple | I will use this as an oppurunity to ask for reviews on two important patches I would like to see merged ASAP so i dont have 4 layer deep patchsets to rebase again :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198494/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199406/ | 16:52 |
| sdake | samyaple will review after meeting | 16:52 |
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| SamYaple | jpeeler: i like that idea! i was thinking of a container to deploy to keep the host clean as well | 16:52 |
| sdake | jpeeler osunds good | 16:52 |
| SamYaple | looking forward to it! | 16:52 |
| rhallisey | ya it's going to be pretty cool | 16:53 |
| SamYaple | i want to get the nova-docker driver running in dokcer ;) | 16:53 |
| sdake | groan | 16:53 |
| SamYaple | ok fine, just running at all | 16:54 |
| sdake | lol | 16:54 |
| sdake | jpeeler go ahead file your blueprint i'll put in discussion state | 16:54 |
| sdake | and add to next week agenda for discussion | 16:54 |
| sdake | new blueprints go through discussion->approved | 16:54 |
| jpeeler | ok will do | 16:54 |
| sdake | unless they com with code | 16:54 |
| sdake | then they generally go straight to approved :) | 16:54 |
| SamYaple | hey real quick poll. Are we going to be including ceph in Kolla? or just supporting it as a backend? +1 or -1 | 16:54 |
| sdake | ceph yes | 16:55 |
| jpeeler | sdake: oh well then i'll go the code route heh | 16:55 |
| sdake | if we can make it happen | 16:55 |
| inc0 | +1 | 16:55 |
| mstachow | +1 | 16:55 |
| pbourke | +1 | 16:55 |
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| rhallisey | let me fix cinder then I'll move on to that +1 | 16:55 |
| SamYaple | if you guys want ceph containers, I can make that happen real quick like. | 16:55 |
| SamYaple | rhallisey: i already have ceph containers | 16:56 |
| inc0 | please do Sam | 16:56 |
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| rhallisey | that would be cool | 16:56 |
| inc0 | and Ryan can move to ceph as default | 16:56 |
| rhallisey | yup | 16:56 |
| inc0 | and ditch whole iScsi thing alltogether | 16:56 |
| SamYaple | fair enough. ill add an implementation of it and you just kick it around | 16:56 |
| sdake | keep in mind folks liberty 2 needs to work out of the box ;) | 16:56 |
| SamYaple | yea this is L3 | 16:56 |
| sdake | wfm | 16:57 |
| SamYaple | sdake: what needs to work in L2....? | 16:57 |
| SamYaple | just core or ALL containers? | 16:57 |
| SamYaple | define core | 16:57 |
| sdake | bascailly all our containers in ansible would be my goal | 16:57 |
| sdake | what we deploy today | 16:57 |
| sdake | in compose | 16:57 |
| sdake | i think gaps are heat, horizon, cinder | 16:58 |
| sdake | that we dont have ansible code for | 16:58 |
| SamYaple | yea cant promise cinder since it deals with the disks | 16:58 |
| SamYaple | the rest yea | 16:58 |
| sdake | and then we need a swift and ceilometer implemtnation at some point down the road | 16:58 |
| sdake | ya cinder is busted container wise | 16:58 |
| sdake | we need it working :) | 16:58 |
| sdake | ok ending meeting we can overflow in #kolla | 16:58 |
| sdake | #endmeeting | 16:58 |
| SamYaple | i can promise cinder backed by ceph if i need to, since i have a working implementation fo that in yaodu | 16:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 8 16:58:47 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-07-08-16.00.html | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-07-08-16.00.txt | 16:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-07-08-16.00.log.html | 16:58 |
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| rockyg | o/ | 17:03 |
| wshao | o/ | 17:03 |
| wshao | #startmeeting compass-dev | 17:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 8 17:04:10 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is wshao. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: compass-dev)" | 17:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'compass_dev' | 17:04 |
| wshao | o/ | 17:04 |
| rockyg | o/ | 17:04 |
| rockyg | you want to discuss the tc vote when more people turn up? | 17:05 |
| wshao | #info Let's discuss the feedbacks from TC review on Compass relevance to OpenStack and its 4 opens | 17:05 |
| wshao | yes, let's wait for shuo and others | 17:05 |
| rockyg | #topic TC review of Compass application | 17:06 |
| rockyg | I can't change topic, but you can. It goes into the minutes | 17:06 |
| wshao | ok. | 17:06 |
| wshao | #topic TC review of Compass application to OpenStack | 17:06 |
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| rockyg | cool, huh? | 17:07 |
| rockyg | ping them on the mailing list, maybe? | 17:07 |
| wshao | Shuo will be in soon | 17:08 |
| rockyg | ah. | 17:08 |
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| rockyg | So, I think we should record here a couple of the action items we got from the TC meeting. That way, those who miss this will be able to review | 17:11 |
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| wshao | rocky: please share the feedbacks | 17:11 |
| wshao | item 1) Project scope is too general. Not openstack-specific | 17:12 |
| rockyg | So, the committee is worried about a number of things | 17:12 |
| wshao | ok go ahead. | 17:12 |
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| rockyg | Use #info, on these, if you can. | 17:13 |
| wshao | ok. | 17:13 |
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| wshao | #info Project scope is too general. Not openstack-specific | 17:13 |
| xiaodongwang | hi | 17:13 |
| rockyg | As wshao said The scope seems to be more than OpenStack. | 17:13 |
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| rockyg | But, really I think we are OpenStack + ecosystem. | 17:13 |
| wshao | I have explained that the foucs is still OpenStack, we need to adjust our web page to reflect this | 17:13 |
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| rockyg | We need to show that we deploy the foundation of openStack with the User apps on top | 17:14 |
| rockyg | 2) not integrated enough in OpenStack | 17:14 |
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| rockyg | We duplicate recipes now in OpenStack. But, they weren' | 17:15 |
| rockyg | t there when we started. | 17:15 |
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| wshao | They give an example of our user management, and think it should use Keystone | 17:15 |
| wshao | so how shall we address this? | 17:16 |
| rockyg | So, we should participate in the now OpenStack chef/puppet/ansible projects to get what we need, then, if necessary, add a recipe to customize | 17:16 |
| rockyg | Also, we don't use any oslo libraries. They would like to see that. | 17:16 |
| wshao | in particular, we need to estimate the scope of work to support community version of chef cookbooks. | 17:16 |
| rockyg | ansible project is just getting started, so we should have someone join that effort. | 17:17 |
| rockyg | The key is to eliminate duplication across OpenStack projects. | 17:17 |
| Shuo | rockyg: is there an open OpenStack ansible community? Here is what I understand .... | 17:17 |
| wshao | #info To address the concern of overlapping, we can watch and join OpenStack chef/puppet/ansible projects | 17:17 |
| rockyg | Yes, there is a new ansible effort with a repo. | 17:18 |
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| rockyg | looking for it now. | 17:19 |
| wshao | #action Follow up on openstack ansible efforts | 17:19 |
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| Shuo | we are trying to have a compass-adapter that enable Ansible + Docker based deployment, i.e., enabling microservicing the OpenStack compoments. | 17:20 |
| wshao | on user auth and keystone, it is debatable is an installer of OpenStack should use standalone keystone | 17:20 |
| rockyg | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/ansible-puppet/ | 17:21 |
| wshao | does anyone know if Fuel supports keystone of its fuel-web application? | 17:21 |
| Shuo | if the Ansible community shares that vision, we'd love to have this as a joint effort. | 17:21 |
| rockyg | Right now, ansible is focused with puppet. We could work with them to also do chef | 17:21 |
| Shuo | wshao: no as I understand. | 17:22 |
| wshao | Shuo: kolla team seems to discuss on Ansible earlier on this channel. | 17:22 |
| rockyg | Oh, and Fuel applied for project status yesterday. | 17:22 |
| dstanek | rockyg: i thought you were talking about OSAD when you mentioned ansible | 17:22 |
| rockyg | Are there places where using oslo libs make sense? | 17:22 |
| wshao | rockyg: they seems to indicate it allows overlaps in 'Big Tent' | 17:22 |
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| rockyg | dstanek, OSAD? | 17:23 |
| wshao | if Fuel is accepted, will that make it difficult for Compass to be accepted? | 17:23 |
| rockyg | wshao, it should not, but we have a higher bar to meet. They are all over the dev ML | 17:23 |
| dstanek | rockyg: the ansible roles and playbooks to install OpenStack - http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/os-ansible-deployment/ | 17:23 |
| rockyg | Ah! Yes! | 17:23 |
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| rockyg | thanks for the link! | 17:24 |
| Shuo | dstanek: we looked at OSAD, and I love that idea. but we really would like to see docker based component than direct-lxc based. If that can be discussed, that's the most applausible direction we want to go to. | 17:24 |
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| rockyg | It can't be discussed if we don't participate | 17:24 |
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| rockyg | So, we need to join the discussion. | 17:24 |
| wshao | rockyg: agreed. | 17:25 |
| dstanek | Shuo: my goal is the use their roles outside of lxc - for example, deploying keystone on a cloud node | 17:25 |
| wshao | ok. move to the nexdt point on "open community" | 17:25 |
| dstanek | they hang out in #openstack-ansible | 17:25 |
| rockyg | Also, the containers world splintering and moving to open containers | 17:25 |
| wshao | they want to see improvement in this area. Any ideas on specific steps toward a more open community? | 17:25 |
| rockyg | So, wshao #topic open community | 17:25 |
| Shuo | dstanek: brilliant! love the reusable code base idea. | 17:26 |
| wshao | #topic improvment on open community | 17:26 |
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| rockyg | #topic needs to be first word on the line. | 17:26 |
| rockyg | See, Shuo you need to hang out on Openstack-ansible ;-) | 17:26 |
| rockyg | So, open community. | 17:27 |
| Shuo | dstanek: indeed, we might be able to help building the dockerfile that generating the docker-image if we can come up with a specific proposal together | 17:27 |
| rockyg | This meeting is where planning for compass should happen. That way anyone can participate | 17:27 |
| wshao | ok. we will use this for future planning meeting | 17:28 |
| rockyg | Or, on an irc channel. We asked what to use and we should use #openstack-compass. We need to create it and get infra to put a record bot on it | 17:28 |
| wshao | we already created #openstack-compass | 17:29 |
| rockyg | Cool. we just need to file a patch to get it recorded then | 17:29 |
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| rockyg | Also, status updates should go to dev mailing list | 17:29 |
| rockyg | So, milestones, releases, etc | 17:30 |
| wshao | #action I will replace syscomass with openstack-compass in current gerrit hooks notifications | 17:30 |
| Shuo | rockyg and wshao: stop me if I make to more specific-item-based discussion rather than a more procedural/adminstrative one, please. But we'd love to have OSAD as one of our Compass-Adapter if the vision / proposal come into certain consensus | 17:30 |
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| wshao | Shuo: yes, we will follow-up on that. ideally, the compass-adapter itself should not host the cookbooks or ansible, but rather, the adapter configs and meta data etc | 17:31 |
| rockyg | Shuo, do you want the action item to go out to openstack-ansible and get the discussion rolling? Once it is more definite, it needs to be put out on the dev mailing list for the whole community to comment | 17:31 |
| wshao | #action (Shuo) Follow up on openstack-ansible and figure out a plan for joining the dev and future Compass integration | 17:32 |
| Shuo | rockyg: yes, I'd love to have that technical conversation if dstanek (and the team ) is open. | 17:32 |
| wshao | ok I put that AI on you, Shuo. | 17:33 |
| rockyg | Shuo, and also, a "spec" could be proposed to stackforge/os-ansible-deployment that is the basic design spec | 17:33 |
| rockyg | Then it can be discussed through the review process. | 17:33 |
| Shuo | great, wshao and rockyg. | 17:33 |
| dstanek | Shuo: i'm not really part of that team. i just use their work | 17:35 |
| rockyg | Something we need to do to make IRC more accessible for everyone is to stand up a proxy-server/forwarder type IRC server. Quassel has one | 17:35 |
| rockyg | dstanek, please tell us more about yourself and what you do/focus on in OpenStack | 17:35 |
| dstanek | Shuo: i just noticed you guys because you said Keystone | 17:35 |
| wshao | #info to summarize on open community, we need to use mailing list for dicussions, use #openstack-compass for technical discussion and community building, use official weekly irc meeting for project planning. and of course, in recruiting more developers | 17:36 |
| dstanek | rockyg: i'm a keystone core and play with other bits and parts | 17:36 |
| rockyg | Good example of what a proxy server can do. If it sees a word you tell it to look for, it will notify you :-) | 17:36 |
| dstanek | i work for Rackspace and the team i report to there started the OSAD project | 17:36 |
| wshao | dstanek: question on keystone being used for installer auth, do you support that idea? | 17:37 |
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| wshao | it was suggested that we should adopt keystone in our user management | 17:37 |
| dstanek | wshao: what do you mean by installer auth? are these users a part of the could? | 17:38 |
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| dstanek | *cloud | 17:38 |
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| wshao | no. not part of the cloud | 17:39 |
| wshao | Compass is to install OpenStack in data center. similar to Fuel. | 17:39 |
| rockyg | Actually, the project is to *install* the cloud, so until that happens, keystone would need to be stand-alone | 17:39 |
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| dstanek | who creates the users? and can you give me an example of a user? | 17:39 |
| rockyg | So, a DC admin is the prospective user of Compass | 17:40 |
| dstanek | i've only used root and myself (both unix users) to install a cloud | 17:40 |
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| dstanek | and you manage a DC admin user account in compass? | 17:41 |
| rockyg | Right. So, you as a superuser would install compass, open it and use it to install an openstack cloud on your bare metal | 17:41 |
| wshao | dstanek: the reason we added simple user management is to allow different users to create different 'cloud'. i.e. different openstack clusters. Current user mgmt is very primitive. Original thought is to expand it later to integrate with LDAP. | 17:41 |
| Shuo | dstanek: I think wshao got the feedback that saying something like "if you don't use KeyStone as auth for your installation process, you may not be part of the BigTent project"? wshao, would you mind restating that specific feedback/comment since dstanek is from the KeyStone community here? | 17:41 |
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| rockyg | Once compass is installed, the original "admin" who installed it, can add other people who can use compass to configure bare metal | 17:42 |
| wshao | Shuo: pretty much as you stated. | 17:42 |
| rockyg | This is one of the reasons the keystone issue seems a bit wierd to us. | 17:42 |
| rockyg | I guess we could use keystone once Compass is installed to manage the compass admins | 17:43 |
| dstanek | i sorta agree with using keystone, especially once you say you want to integrate with LDAP (and eventually add even more keystone-like features) | 17:43 |
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| rockyg | Yeah, if we're going to be interfacing to a number of identity/auth protocols, we *should* use keystone. Much easier. | 17:44 |
| dstanek | since keystone is usually used for cloud users though i'm not sure how it all works together. never looked into this area before | 17:44 |
| sdake | hey guys, could one of your core reviewer guys contact me after your meeting is concluded? | 17:45 |
| sdake | thanks :) | 17:45 |
| wshao | sdake: sure | 17:45 |
| rockyg | wshao, wanna make an action item? | 17:45 |
| wshao | an action item on keystone? | 17:46 |
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| wshao | #action (wshao) Figure out the right strategy on user management and relationship to keysone. | 17:46 |
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| rockyg | to contact sdake after the meetin:-) | 17:47 |
| wshao | #info comments on static MIB data and older versionof web code still in master branch of compass-web | 17:47 |
| wshao | #action (wshao) contact sdake | 17:48 |
| wshao | #topic static MIB data in compass-core and older versionof web code still in master branch of compass-web | 17:48 |
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| rockyg | Yes, it seems we *really* need to clean up the repositories before we get them moved. | 17:48 |
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| wshao | I will address these two issues. | 17:48 |
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| wshao | #action (wshao) clean up older version in the repo. Figure out SNMP MIB data issue and eventually move it out of the repo | 17:49 |
| rockyg | We want the repositories in good, working shape with no old cruft so we don't drag old dead-ends with us | 17:49 |
| wshao | agreed. let's clean up on that. | 17:50 |
| rockyg | Well, I think it can be in the repo, but more like a contrib dir, or a vendor dir or something. Like linux does hw drivers | 17:50 |
| wshao | I think we have covered most comments/feedbacks from the review. Anything else? | 17:50 |
| rockyg | Reviews and reviewers | 17:51 |
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| wshao | rockyg: mib should not be in compass-core. perhaps in adapters repo. | 17:51 |
| rockyg | We all need to be using gerrit to review each others' code and we need core reviewers. | 17:51 |
| wshao | #action to invite more reviewers | 17:51 |
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| rockyg | We need to follow the best practices more closely. So -1 on not enough comments, -1 on no test, -1 if style is not good | 17:52 |
| wshao | #info We need to follow the best practices more closely. So -1 on not enough comments, -1 on no test, -1 if style is not good | 17:52 |
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| rockyg | And all comments to make these better need to be in the gerrit review. | 17:53 |
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| rockyg | How many people here have actually officially reviewed a patch? | 17:53 |
| xicheng | should mibs exist in repos at all? | 17:53 |
| wshao | rockyg: we have some pre checks in place today, but yes there are rooms for improvements | 17:53 |
| wshao | xicheng: mibs should not be. | 17:54 |
| xicheng | it could be a zip on s3 | 17:54 |
| wshao | ok time is almost up. Any other major items? | 17:54 |
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| rockyg | xicheng, part of becoming part of OpenStack is that all related work needs to be on the openstack servers. | 17:55 |
| xicheng | i see. but mibs seem to me are libraries. | 17:55 |
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| rockyg | so, we have a library repository? Or??? | 17:56 |
| wshao | rockyg: mib could be considered as an external dependency, which can be hosted elsewhere. e.g, iso image for base OS for Cobbler. | 17:56 |
| rockyg | We can ask other folks on IRC how they do it or look at Fuel | 17:56 |
| rockyg | Cool. | 17:56 |
| xicheng | OK | 17:56 |
| wshao | yes, I take the action item on MIBs | 17:56 |
| wshao | ok, anything else? or i will end this meeting. | 17:57 |
| rockyg | I think this is a wonderful start. We won't get more developers if we don't post to the ML, so announce the meetings and the IRC channel and anything else you think is important for other developers to know. | 17:58 |
| wshao | yes, will do | 17:58 |
| wshao | #action Introducing compas to ML. | 17:58 |
| rockyg | Oh, and build status should go to the IRC channel. We should all be monitoring it. (that proxy host ;-) | 17:59 |
| rockyg | Good meeting. Thanks, guys! | 17:59 |
| Shuo | thanks | 17:59 |
| xicheng | Thanks. | 17:59 |
| wshao | yes, it was on syscomass, i will change it to #openstack-compass | 17:59 |
| wshao | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 8 17:59:54 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/compass_dev/2015/compass_dev.2015-07-08-17.04.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/compass_dev/2015/compass_dev.2015-07-08-17.04.txt | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/compass_dev/2015/compass_dev.2015-07-08-17.04.log.html | 17:59 |
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| wshao | sdake: what we shall use for the chat? | 18:00 |
| sdake | join #kolla i guess | 18:01 |
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| Rockyg | o/ | 19:15 |
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| Rockyg | anyone still here? jokke_? | 19:16 |
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| Rockyg | dhellmann: ? your around? 10 minutes to "resume" my 'puter. get the new one tomorrow | 19:17 |
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| Rockyg | #startmeeting log_wg | 20:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 8 20:02:21 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Rockyg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: log_wg)" | 20:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'log_wg' | 20:02 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 20:02 |
| Rockyg | bknudson: dhellmann, who else? | 20:03 |
| bknudson | hi | 20:03 |
| Rockyg | need to expand this group. | 20:03 |
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| Rockyg | Well, what do folks want to discuss? | 20:04 |
| jokke_ | we really should start using https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/log-wg-meeting-agenda or something like that ;) | 20:04 |
| Rockyg | agreed. | 20:04 |
| jokke_ | I have the template there | 20:04 |
| jokke_ | nicely "borrowed" from glance equivalent | 20:05 |
| Rockyg | How about we start with error codes.... | 20:05 |
| Rockyg | #topic error codes | 20:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "error codes (Meeting topic: log_wg)" | 20:05 | |
| Rockyg | I would like everyone to review #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/cross-service-request-id | 20:06 |
| jokke_ | that's for req IDs? | 20:07 |
| Rockyg | Oops. wrong one | 20:07 |
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| Rockyg | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/formal-message-ids | 20:07 |
| Rockyg | It's a dead ringer for what we wrote. Ill see if we can get Mark here... | 20:08 |
| bknudson | Rockyg: mark's on vacay | 20:08 |
| Rockyg | vanderwl does not appear to be on line at the move | 20:08 |
| bknudson | that was written in 2013 | 20:08 |
| Rockyg | Yup. | 20:09 |
| bknudson | I assume he's moved on | 20:09 |
| jokke_ | yeah looks to be pretty darn close ... and I hadn't seen that when I wrote the original | 20:09 |
| Rockyg | It's amazing what is floating around the archives that was suggested by never carried through | 20:09 |
| jokke_ | meaning that there has been others with pretty much same requirements as we came out with ... which is really good | 20:09 |
| bknudson | lots of developers aren't willing to hang in there for the years or months it takes anything to get implemented | 20:09 |
| Rockyg | But, we know why it wasn't carried through, because it's *hard* to get it through | 20:09 |
| jokke_ | yeah | 20:10 |
| Rockyg | Yeah, he's on chef mostly | 20:10 |
| jokke_ | funny thing is that the BP has been actually approved for nova ;) | 20:10 |
| jokke_ | perhaps we should reference it on the spec | 20:11 |
| Rockyg | I'm going to see if we can add him as a coauthor for our spec and co-opt what he wrote to flesh out what we wrote. | 20:11 |
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| jokke_ | I'd be happy with that ... and if he wants to take part at least to the review if not implementing | 20:12 |
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| Rockyg | It seems that nova has the most impetus for a lot of these formalizations. Maybe we should try to make it the pilot for the xprojects. | 20:12 |
| bknudson | I don't see where the bp is approved for nova? | 20:13 |
| Rockyg | It's still in drafting. | 20:13 |
| jokke_ | oh ... I was looking the approver being there | 20:13 |
| Rockyg | the first one was implemented, but that was request ids | 20:13 |
| jokke_ | I'm from the generation that has not seen the best or worst of bps :P | 20:14 |
| Rockyg | Yeah. When I started, I wrote a bp for a Qa doc. It had the general outline and stuff. but, they said it wasn't detailed enough. then I look at all these others and they aren't even a complete sentence. | 20:15 |
| Rockyg | A team really needs to go through and mine these things and the specs for info. | 20:16 |
| Rockyg | Anyway, bknudson, doyou kno when Mark gets back? | 20:16 |
| bknudson | Rockyg: not sure... I think next week he'll be back | 20:17 |
| Rockyg | Thanks! In the mean time, I'll see what I can do to beef up our spec with his stuff | 20:17 |
| Rockyg | if company politics don't distract me. | 20:17 |
| Rockyg | #action rocky to look to merge Error code spec with info from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/formal-message-ids | 20:18 |
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| Rockyg | #topic feedback on our efforts | 20:19 |
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| Rockyg | bknudson: I'd like to know what you think about our direction, etc and if you have any suggestions on what to change/what to add/etc? | 20:20 |
| bknudson | I can't complain | 20:20 |
| bknudson | I'd like to have more time to work on this stuff myself but it's hard to make it the top priority | 20:20 |
| bknudson | my goal is to work on logging for keystone in particular | 20:21 |
| Rockyg | Yah, I keep getting pulled to do other stuff. | 20:21 |
| bknudson | and then if keystone logging gets up to where I'd like it to be then we can use that as an exemplar | 20:21 |
| Rockyg | did you see the xproject discussion on requestIDs? | 20:21 |
| bknudson | but we're nowhere near that. | 20:21 |
| bknudson | I did see the x-project discussion on request IDs | 20:21 |
| Rockyg | I hear you. so, keystone could be the pilot | 20:22 |
| bknudson | if you guys have anything you want to get working in keystone I'll sign up to review it. | 20:22 |
| Rockyg | Just want to point out that oslo middleware already has what is needed for that in the code base. | 20:22 |
| bknudson | keystone already has the middleware in the paste pipeline | 20:23 |
| bknudson | the default / sample paste pipeline | 20:23 |
| jokke_ | :) | 20:23 |
| Rockyg | Nova already does it, maybe we can get keystone to do it, too. | 20:23 |
| Rockyg | so, that's cool. I just hope that it meshes fairly well with the way nova did it. | 20:23 |
| bknudson | I wonder if we log the request ID | 20:24 |
| bknudson | probably not | 20:24 |
| Rockyg | It should be. Ops wants it. But, their needs are different from devs on that | 20:24 |
| Rockyg | They want the original caller and the number of hops from the first request. | 20:25 |
| bknudson | http://logs.openstack.org/73/195873/14/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/aff87a6/logs/apache/keystone.txt.gz -- sample keystone log | 20:25 |
| Rockyg | otherwise, the log message could get too long | 20:25 |
| bknudson | I don't see any request IDs in the log. | 20:25 |
| bknudson | another item for the list o' things to do | 20:25 |
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| Rockyg | Yeah. We weren't gonna tackle it until they get it straightened out in passing between project boundaries. | 20:27 |
| bknudson | having the client API return request ID would be a lot more useful if it could be correlated with the logs | 20:28 |
| jokke_ | bknudson: well it's absolutely pointless if it does not | 20:28 |
| bknudson | I wonder if we have request ID in the common log format? | 20:28 |
| Rockyg | nope | 20:28 |
| Rockyg | but, there are places it could be put | 20:28 |
| jokke_ | otherwise it's just decorator (here is some random characters for you, dear user, that has absolutely no use) ;) | 20:29 |
| bknudson | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.log/tree/oslo_log/_options.py#n99 | 20:29 |
| Rockyg | it could go in the body and the body could be more formalized | 20:29 |
| bknudson | there's [%(request_id)s ... | 20:29 |
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| bknudson | keystone doesn't use context so I assume it can't use logging_context_format_string but instead has to use logging_default_format_string | 20:30 |
| bknudson | and logging_default_format_string doesn't have request_id | 20:30 |
| bknudson | maybe keystone needs to switch to using logging_context_format_string or somerhing. | 20:31 |
| bknudson | we'd just leave "instance" blank since there are no instances in keystone! | 20:31 |
| jokke_ | bknudson: or just adobt the string without context but the formatted bits there | 20:31 |
| jokke_ | bknudson: put that "-" there ;) | 20:32 |
| jokke_ | ops will love you for that | 20:32 |
| bknudson | I bet they would like that. | 20:32 |
| Rockyg | the syslog format has a structured field in its header. It could be used for rID airs | 20:32 |
| Rockyg | ^airs^pairs | 20:32 |
| jokke_ | one of the biggest points what ops raised already in paris was, do not leave empty fields, if you have nothing to put there, put - so the log parsers have still marker that it's a field | 20:33 |
| bknudson | I'll put that on the list o' things to do instead | 20:34 |
| Rockyg | jokke_: ++ | 20:34 |
| Rockyg | and bknudson++ | 20:35 |
| Rockyg | Yeah. Maybe we could deprecate default and get everyone using context.... | 20:35 |
| jokke_ | Rockyg: easy now ... one small step at the time | 20:36 |
| Rockyg | Heh heh | 20:37 |
| jokke_ | do we have something else for this weeks list? | 20:39 |
| Rockyg | so, I'm looking at the keystone log you linked and there are like 100= lines for every normal log message ??? | 20:40 |
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| Rockyg | but I guess the callback stuff is really the stuff that is mostly used. those log files must be really thin with debug turned off. | 20:41 |
| bknudson | Rockyg: what do you mena? | 20:42 |
| bknudson | mean? | 20:42 |
| bknudson | Rockyg: the logging of the config options? | 20:42 |
| Rockyg | so, like 100+ lines of wsgi option values, then the call backs, a couple of deprecation warnings, then an actual REST call | 20:43 |
| Rockyg | so, yeah. config options | 20:43 |
| bknudson | Rockyg: that's a side-effect of running under apache | 20:43 |
| jokke_ | Rockyg: yeah, the debugging logs tends to be chatty ... that's why we want to get the logging on the state that people can run these things in production without having it enabled ;) | 20:44 |
| Rockyg | Ah. Thanks | 20:44 |
| bknudson | it starts up several processes to handle requests | 20:44 |
| bknudson | and each time it starts a process the config gets logged | 20:44 |
| bknudson | not sure how that could be fixed | 20:44 |
| bknudson | eventually it's got all the processes started so you don't see it | 20:44 |
| bknudson | unless apache for some reason decides to discard a worker | 20:44 |
| bknudson | I think you can configure apache to discard a worker after 100 requests or something | 20:45 |
| jokke_ | bknudson: you can set the oslo.config logging level to something more reasonable than debug to clean those out | 20:45 |
| bknudson | I think infra likes debug since it allows figuring out gate problems | 20:45 |
| bknudson | if problems could be diagnosed using info then they'd be happy with that I'm sure | 20:45 |
| jokke_ | bknudson: it helps debugging test failures as well, but you don't need to have debug everywhere | 20:46 |
| jokke_ | like oslo.log filters lots of stuff per default nowadays from the libs | 20:46 |
| bknudson | I think even the debug logs are useless in keystone | 20:46 |
| jokke_ | bknudson: I just can't remember if you guys use oslo.log or not | 20:46 |
| bknudson | keystone uses oslo.log | 20:46 |
| jokke_ | ok, so oslo.conf is probably not one of the silenced ones then ;) | 20:47 |
| Rockyg | one of the other things ops wants is a way to see the event messages. so they can see where a multistep call goes south | 20:47 |
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| Rockyg | it looks like keystone records the events at the info level | 20:49 |
| jokke_ | bknudson: tbh by quick eyeing over the keystone DEBUG logs does not look that bad | 20:49 |
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| jokke_ | Rockyg: every request is logged once on info level by the logging standards | 20:50 |
| bknudson | debug doesn't log enough to be useful for debugging | 20:50 |
| Rockyg | Yeah. once you get past initialization, it's not too bad, | 20:50 |
| bknudson | http://logs.openstack.org/73/195873/14/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/aff87a6/logs/apache/keystone_access.txt.gz | 20:50 |
| bknudson | keystone also generates an access log since it runs in apache | 20:50 |
| bknudson | "POST /v2.0/OS-KSADM/roles HTTP/1.1" 200 71 "-" "python-keystoneclient" 2330969(us) | 20:51 |
| bknudson | that's not the fastest! | 20:51 |
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| Rockyg | but I see that a warning about not finding admin role doesn't seem to generate more debug info than a normal call | 20:51 |
| jokke_ | bknudson: fair enough ... I've never needed to debug keystone so couldn't tell ... but you guys seriously doesn't seem to log too much other than the requests | 20:51 |
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| Rockyg | Well. Food for thought. I think we might be done for the day. | 20:54 |
| jokke_ | ++ | 20:54 |
| Rockyg | thanks jokke_ and bknudson | 20:54 |
| jokke_ | thanks | 20:54 |
| bknudson | thansk | 20:54 |
| Rockyg | #endmeeting | 20:54 |
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