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| nikhil_k | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, esheffield, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, ivasilevskaya, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, zhiyan, pkoniszewski, krykowski, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk | 13:58 |
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| sigmavirus24 | thanks nikhil_k | 13:58 |
| kragniz | nikhil_k makes turning up to meetings a lot easier | 13:59 |
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| jokke_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| jokke_ | thanks | 14:00 |
| nikhil_k | #startmeeting Glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 18 14:00:17 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil_k. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:00 | |
| mfedosin | o/ | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| bpoulos | o/ | 14:00 |
| nikhil_k | #topic agenda and roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda and roll call (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:00 | |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:00 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| nikhil_k | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
| cpallares | o/ | 14:00 |
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| nikhil_k | We have a small agenda today. | 14:01 |
| nikhil_k | May be we can discuss a few things as part of open discussion | 14:02 |
| kragniz | o/ | 14:02 |
| nikhil_k | Let's get started | 14:02 |
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| nikhil_k | #topic Updates | 14:02 |
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| nikhil_k | Thanks to harlowja, we've a patch up for dashboard. I think kragniz also introduced that concept in the project last cycle. | 14:03 |
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| nikhil_k | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191923/ | 14:03 |
| nikhil_k | Thanks guys! | 14:03 |
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| nikhil_k | Please take a look at the versioning changes: | 14:04 |
| stevelle | o/ | 14:04 |
| nikhil_k | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192401/ | 14:04 |
| nikhil_k | That's all for this week. | 14:04 |
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| ativelkov | o/ sorry for being late, folks | 14:04 |
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| nikhil_k | Unless someone has more updates/announcements we can move on | 14:04 |
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| jokke_ | nikhil_k: that version thing | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | where that number 11 came from? | 14:05 |
| nikhil_k | jokke_: more info in the ML | 14:06 |
| nikhil_k | versioning is being done for number of cycles project incubated in | 14:06 |
| nikhil_k | but I doubt that for future when back compat changes would be requested | 14:06 |
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| nikhil_k | it's supposed to be semver sytle | 14:07 |
| sigmavirus24 | jokke_: if you read any messages on the ML read Doug's and lifeless' because of how much they're working on fixing things this cycle | 14:07 |
| nikhil_k | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-June/067082.html | 14:07 |
| sigmavirus24 | nikhil_k: right. We're changing the versioning scheme (again) but not the use of Semantic Versioning | 14:07 |
| jokke_ | found it | 14:08 |
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| nikhil_k | sigmavirus24: sorry, do you mean we are not using Semantic Versioning now? | 14:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | *We're not changing the use of Semantic Versioning | 14:08 |
| nikhil_k | ok | 14:08 |
| nikhil_k | Thanks for clarification | 14:08 |
| nikhil_k | I need to read a few more messages from this morning so, my updates may be a bit stale. | 14:09 |
| nikhil_k | Please refer to the thread for latest | 14:09 |
| jokke_ | yeah so that will not work out before they remove the pbr functionality merged recently that demands the version bump to next 9bigger) version number | 14:09 |
| mclaren | 11 is one louder | 14:09 |
| nikhil_k | #info thread sub: "[openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases" | 14:09 |
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| nikhil_k | mclaren: nice one | 14:10 |
| nikhil_k | oops, did I say one | 14:10 |
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| nikhil_k | #topic python-glanceclient + x-openstack-request-id | 14:11 |
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| abhishekk | hi all, this is related to returning request-id to the caller | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156508/8/specs/log-request-id-mappings.rst | 14:11 |
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| abhishekk | Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-glanceclient/+spec/expose-get-x-openstack-request-id | 14:12 |
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| abhishekk | we are discussing this with cross-projects as well as LW group | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | right now, X-openstack-request-id is not returned by the client to the caller. | 14:12 |
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| abhishekk | Dough has suggested to use thread local storage to for storing last request id as it will not break backward compatibility | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: I'm fully behind the aim of this, but I'm bit concerned merging any of the functionality in before we get to an agreement how we are going to do this request ID thing ... | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | jokke_: i understand, I just want the opinion of the community members on this approach | 14:13 |
| sigmavirus24 | abhishekk: were there any other alternative methods for returning it proposed? | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | IMO, this is very useful for end-user to have request id | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | sigmavirus24: cross-project specs has 3 solutions and now talk is going on for using osprofiler | 14:15 |
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| sigmavirus24 | abhishekk: I'm talking about the clients | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | sigmavirus24: returning tuple (resp, body) | 14:15 |
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| abhishekk | but it will not support backward compatibility | 14:16 |
| nikhil_k | I guess #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-glanceclient/+spec/expose-get-x-openstack-request-id has the design elaborate | 14:16 |
| abhishekk | # https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156508/1/specs/return-req-id-from-cinder-client.rst | 14:17 |
| nikhil_k | abhishekk: what all is it breaking? | 14:17 |
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| nikhil_k | abhishekk: your example there (BP) says cinderclient | 14:17 |
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| nikhil_k | I meant, what's broken by the client change | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | nikhil_k: thanks, i will modify it | 14:18 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: it looks kind of neat approach, but I'll need to look into it a bit before having opinion ;) | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | nikhil_k: the current design in the blueprint will not break any thing | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | jokke_: yes please | 14:18 |
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| nikhil_k | ok | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | nikhil_k: returning tuple(resp_header, body) will change the return type | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k: My concern is not really that we would be breaking anything, but we would merge code that will never be used and rewritten because the approach changes before the rest is done ;) | 14:19 |
| nikhil_k | what does the sdk folks say? | 14:19 |
| nikhil_k | do* | 14:19 |
| nikhil_k | abhishekk: ^ | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | nikhil_k: sdk folks are ready to add this and they said approach individual teams | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k: we're not that far yet ... as said the x-project spec is still under bikeshedding | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-06-16-19.00.log.html | 14:20 |
| nikhil_k | jokke_: hah, before the rest is done :) Nice one | 14:21 |
| abhishekk | nikhil_k: ^^ | 14:21 |
| * sigmavirus24 will be joining the bikeshedding efforts | 14:21 | |
| sigmavirus24 | you're welcome and I'm sorry | 14:21 |
| abhishekk | It will be great if I get early feedback about this from the glance members | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | sigmavirus24: there is plento of really poor and bad options on the air ;) | 14:22 |
| abhishekk | i am also talking with cinder and neutron guys for this | 14:22 |
| sigmavirus24 | abhishekk: I'll need to toy with the options before I can give you a firm bit of feedback from me personally | 14:22 |
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| jokke_ | plenty even | 14:22 |
| sigmavirus24 | Others may already have opinions though =P | 14:22 |
| abhishekk | sigmavirus24: sure :) | 14:23 |
| nikhil_k | I haven't followed the ML thread after that wg suggestion | 14:23 |
| nikhil_k | any link for the latest news on this? | 14:23 |
| abhishekk | nikhil_k: not yet, currently talk is about using osprofiler | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: yeah ... I do what I can to block that one ;) | 14:25 |
| nikhil_k | abhishekk: the trade off of appending the project id/tag vs. tuple was? | 14:25 |
| abhishekk | jokke_: thank you :) | 14:25 |
| abhishekk | nikhil_k: not sure | 14:25 |
| nikhil_k | ok, I will try to follow up if time permits | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: I'm against either approach, putting it to the keystone middleware or to the osprofiler because we do want to have the req ID's still even the deployment does not want to use either of those | 14:26 |
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| abhishekk | jokke_: right | 14:27 |
| abhishekk | nikhil_k: thanks | 14:27 |
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| nikhil_k | agreed | 14:27 |
| abhishekk | I think it is useful because If X-openstack-request-id is available with the user, it will be easy for the service provider to trace any issue by looking at the log messages and respond user quickly with appropriate reasoning | 14:27 |
| mclaren | maybe oslo context? | 14:27 |
| mclaren | abhishekk: yes, I agree it will be super useful for debugging | 14:28 |
| abhishekk | mclaren: right, we just need to finalize the approach :) | 14:29 |
| sigmavirus24 | jokke_: I'm with you | 14:29 |
| sigmavirus24 | (off-topic: Is osprofiler even still maintained? Last I looked at it, the last commit was from November) | 14:29 |
| nikhil_k | abhishekk: I am doubting the push back because of the raised necessity of inclusion of project name in the x-red-id | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | mclaren: that has been on the table ;) | 14:29 |
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| jokke_ | mclaren: then we just need to get all projects adopting that | 14:30 |
| nikhil_k | the logs themselves are plenty useful to identify project | 14:30 |
| sigmavirus24 | == nikhil_k | 14:30 |
| sigmavirus24 | anyway | 14:30 |
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| sigmavirus24 | this is cross-project discussion, no? | 14:30 |
| abhishekk | @all: please provide your suggestions | 14:30 |
| nikhil_k | I think so, sigmavirus24 | 14:30 |
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| mfedosin | I can ask Boris about osprofiler | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | yeah ... this is all still open on X-Proj level | 14:31 |
| abhishekk | sigmavirus24: yes, but I need to approach individual teams as well | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | so I'd say we do not merge anything related before that level has been sorted | 14:31 |
| sigmavirus24 | == jokke_ | 14:31 |
| nikhil_k | Cool, abhishekk any chance you can raise this on Tuesday meeting for horizontal team discussion in the CPL meeting? | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | but as abhishekk said, please chip in | 14:31 |
| sigmavirus24 | mfedosin: https://github.com/stackforge/osprofiler (last commit to master was in october) | 14:32 |
| nikhil_k | abhishekk: we see a good turnout and indovidual team feedback there. just make sure to ping liaisons before tuesday | 14:32 |
| abhishekk | nikhil_k: yes, because of timezone difference tpatil will join the cpl meeting | 14:32 |
| kragniz | sigmavirus24: I thought it had moved into the /openstack namespace, but I might be imagining that | 14:32 |
| sigmavirus24 | kragniz: wasn't there | 14:33 |
| mfedosin | It's sad if osprofiler is dead | 14:33 |
| nikhil_k | sure. heads up a day before to do some prep work will help with more feedback | 14:33 |
| sigmavirus24 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135080/ is the lastest review, which is failing tests hard and is only being reviewed by one person | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | nikhil_k: sure | 14:33 |
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| sigmavirus24 | which doesn't seem acceptable for a cross-project solution imo | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | thank you all, please left your feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193035/ | 14:34 |
| nikhil_k | optional libraries should be avoided as best possible, imho | 14:34 |
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| cpallares | sigmavirus24: That's a sad little patch | 14:34 |
| nikhil_k | ok, moving on. | 14:34 |
| nikhil_k | #topic client socket time out param | 14:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "client socket time out param (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:34 | |
| nikhil_k | mfedosin: all yours | 14:34 |
| mfedosin | okay, thanks | 14:35 |
| nikhil_k | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192394/ | 14:35 |
| mfedosin | as you know eventlet has an option called 'keepalive', which is True by default | 14:35 |
| mfedosin | http://eventlet.net/doc/modules/wsgi.html | 14:35 |
| mfedosin | It means that server will never close connections and wait for client actions after response. | 14:35 |
| mfedosin | It's not a good practice, because clients can create many connection and don't close them after. | 14:35 |
| mfedosin | It leads to the situation when many threads are active and consume cpu forever with socket polling. | 14:36 |
| mfedosin | The fix is very easy: Set 'keepalive' parameter in glance config to False and then pass it to the server. | 14:36 |
| mfedosin | This param added here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130839/ | 14:36 |
| mclaren | this is socket level keepalive (not http keepalive)? | 14:36 |
| mfedosin | yes | 14:37 |
| mfedosin | But setting 'keepalive' to False only partially fixes the problem: the performance may be reduced because of frequent reconnections and it won't prevent malefactors of attacking the cloud | 14:37 |
| nikhil_k | client_socket_timeout = 900 , is that in sec? | 14:37 |
| mfedosin | yes | 14:37 |
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| mfedosin | It's pretty enough to perform needed operations, so it won't affect performance, and it will guard the system from attackers. The same issues occurred in Keystone and Cinder and they just added this timeout too | 14:38 |
| abhishekk | nikhil_k: similar used in cinder as well | 14:38 |
| nikhil_k | so, this means the kernel timeout would be overloaded? | 14:38 |
| mfedosin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177670/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119365/ | 14:38 |
| mclaren | mfedosin: I've a patch up since about 8 months ago to do the same thing? | 14:38 |
| mclaren | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119132/ | 14:39 |
| mclaren | that's where cinder/nova's patches originated from I think | 14:39 |
| mfedosin | oh... why it hasn't merged yet? :) | 14:40 |
| mfedosin | yeah, I made this patch by analogy with yours in cinder | 14:40 |
| mclaren | good question :-) | 14:40 |
| nikhil_k | I see reviews plenty | 14:40 |
| sigmavirus24 | hah | 14:40 |
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| * sigmavirus24 updates review | 14:41 | |
| sigmavirus24 | sorry mclaren | 14:41 |
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| * sigmavirus24 doesnt' recall if he was a core reviewer by Apr 21 | 14:41 | |
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| mclaren | np. (My review stats are pretty terrible.) | 14:41 |
| abhishekk | mclaren: right | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | mclaren: no wonders the one from abhishekk looks like copy of yours without the documentations | 14:41 |
| abhishekk | jokke_: yes :) | 14:42 |
| sigmavirus24 | documentation? who needs documentation! | 14:42 |
| sigmavirus24 | =P | 14:42 |
| mfedosin | we had this problem during the tests in our latest release. So I wrote patch there to fix timeouts and it works | 14:42 |
| mclaren | wow, nice to know it's actually useful! | 14:43 |
| * jokke_ kicks sigmavirus24 between the big toes | 14:43 | |
| mfedosin | so I think we should merge Stuart's commit asap and then backport it to kilo | 14:43 |
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| sigmavirus24 | == mfedosin | 14:43 |
| abhishekk | mfedosin: ++ | 14:43 |
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| sigmavirus24 | although jokke_ is stable-maint and can tell us if it's appropriate | 14:43 |
| mfedosin | so I can abandon mine then | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | shut up and take my money :P | 14:43 |
| nikhil_k | s/documentation/backports/g | 14:43 |
| * sigmavirus24 takes jokke_'s money | 14:44 | |
| * sigmavirus24 doesn't shut up | 14:44 | |
| mfedosin | mclaren, what about DocImapact flag there? | 14:44 |
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| mclaren | mfedosin: sure. I probably need a rebase anyway | 14:45 |
| nikhil_k | #topic Open Discussion | 14:45 |
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| GB21 | Hi everyone, I am trying t work on tasks scrubbers, so I need views from everyone | 14:46 |
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| GB21 | so first of all, I would like to know, what is the exact difference between the glance scrubbers and the tasks scrubbers | 14:47 |
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| jokke_ | sigmavirus24: thebackport is fine as long as we open bug for that (which is warranted due to the behavior mfedosin described) | 14:47 |
| GB21 | please shed some light on this | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | GB21: the glance scrubber has to deal with backend storage, too | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | GB21: the tasks scrubber cleans the DB only | 14:48 |
| nikhil_k | images scrubber looks at the status and tasks scrubber will look at the expires_at field | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | GB21: what nikhil_k said, different scrubbing criterion | 14:49 |
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| GB21 | rosmaita and nikhil_k, ohk | 14:50 |
| mclaren | the glance scrubber removes delayed deleted images for example (from memory, it's a while since I've looked at it) | 14:50 |
| nikhil_k | rosmaita: also, may we need it to be a separate job to spread the scrubbing load differently for those two? | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | nikhil_k: i agree, best to have it be a separate job | 14:50 |
| nikhil_k | mclaren: right | 14:50 |
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| nikhil_k | status=pending_delete | 14:50 |
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| GB21 | please explain, how it has to be a separate job | 14:51 |
| nikhil_k | create a separate process for it | 14:51 |
| nikhil_k | keep it cron like though | 14:51 |
| nikhil_k | btw, guys we kinda need some of this for glance v1, v2 support in nova #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192926/ | 14:52 |
| nikhil_k | nicely written spec, thanks stevelle | 14:53 |
| stevelle | thanks nikhil_k and all the others who talked with me about it | 14:53 |
| mclaren | stevelle: you now own v2 to v3 migration also ;-) | 14:54 |
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| stevelle | Uh, oh. Voluntold | 14:54 |
| mclaren | heh | 14:54 |
| sigmavirus24 | mclaren: good voluntelling | 14:55 |
| sigmavirus24 | mclaren: you're in charge of voluntelling now | 14:55 |
| mclaren | I've been voluntold to? Very meta :-) | 14:56 |
| sigmavirus24 | ;) | 14:56 |
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| nikhil_k | if people aren't aware, the releases of libs and clients may become centralized soon(-ish) | 14:59 |
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| nikhil_k | Looks like we're out of time | 15:00 |
| nikhil_k | Thanks all! | 15:00 |
| nikhil_k | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 18 15:00:19 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-06-18-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-06-18-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-06-18-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| nikhil_k | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 18 15:00:57 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil_k. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:01 |
| nikhil_k | #topic agenda and roll call | 15:01 |
| sjmc7 | mornin | 15:01 |
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| kragniz | o/ | 15:01 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 15:01 |
| lakshmiS | o/ | 15:01 |
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| nikhil_k | g'morning/afternoon/evening | 15:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 15:01 |
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| nikhil_k | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:01 |
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| kragniz | so the repo is set up in gerrit now | 15:02 |
| nikhil_k | Thanks guys. I wanted to discuss the possibility of mid-cycle meeting co-located with Glance. | 15:02 |
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| lakshmiS | thats a great way to start!! | 15:02 |
| kragniz | we still need to add people to the group so we can approve patches | 15:02 |
| nikhil_k | #topic We've operational gerrit workflow | 15:03 |
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| nikhil_k | kragniz: who's the admin? | 15:03 |
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| nikhil_k | openstack-ci? | 15:03 |
| kragniz | nikhil_k: no one yet | 15:03 |
| nikhil_k | huh? | 15:03 |
| kragniz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/964,members | 15:03 |
| sjmc7 | doh | 15:03 |
| nikhil_k | someone must have to be there to create it? | 15:03 |
| sjmc7 | apparently not | 15:04 |
| kragniz | we need to talk to -infra to get someone added, then they add other people | 15:04 |
| nikhil_k | kragniz: you wanna own it? | 15:04 |
| kragniz | sure | 15:04 |
| nikhil_k | #action kragniz : talk to -infra to get someone added to | 15:04 |
| sjmc7 | there was a list of potential cores somewhere in the post-summit conversation | 15:04 |
| nikhil_k | #info Group searchlight-core | 15:04 |
| david-lyle | you should make the co-PTLs admins | 15:05 |
| david-lyle | as well | 15:05 |
| kragniz | yup | 15:05 |
| kragniz | there's also searchlight-release | 15:05 |
| david-lyle | nevermind, mixing lp and gerit | 15:05 |
| nikhil_k | usually, all drivers are admins | 15:06 |
| nikhil_k | here cores==drivers | 15:06 |
| david-lyle | right, just got my tools crossed | 15:06 |
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| kragniz | after we have that done, we need to fix the gate, which is currenly failing | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | agreed | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | unless anyone desperately wants to, i can take a look at that | 15:07 |
| kragniz | sjmc7: do you want to look at that? | 15:07 |
| kragniz | heh | 15:07 |
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| sjmc7 | i'm hoping it's something simple in our tox file | 15:07 |
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| nikhil_k | #action sjmc7 , kragniz to look at the failing gate | 15:07 |
| kragniz | sjmc7: I think it's the same failure I was seeing on that last patch of yours on github | 15:07 |
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| sjmc7 | looked like it was much earlier in the process when i took a quick look yesterday but i'll dive in later | 15:08 |
| nikhil_k | this is the failure | 15:08 |
| nikhil_k | #link http://logs.openstack.org/32/192532/1/check/gate-searchlight-python27/1020cb4/testr_results.html.gz | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | ok. yeah, will take a look today | 15:09 |
| nikhil_k | looks like mismatch , members is missing in actual | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | pep8 was failing too i noticed | 15:09 |
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| nikhil_k | ah, on the newer one | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | yep. i'll dig around later today | 15:10 |
| nikhil_k | Thanks | 15:10 |
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| nikhil_k | #topic BP walkthrough | 15:10 |
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| nikhil_k | #info BPs registered: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight | 15:10 |
| nikhil_k | Thanks everyone for doing that. | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | that was the easy part :) | 15:11 |
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| nikhil_k | #action: nikhil_k to add performance test related BP | 15:11 |
| lakshmiS | I guess we can mark this BP as implemented now? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/separate-from-glance | 15:11 |
| nikhil_k | Any other missing? | 15:11 |
| sjmc7 | i think those were all the ones we discussed | 15:11 |
| nikhil_k | nice! | 15:12 |
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| kragniz | lakshmiS: yup, I think so | 15:12 |
| nikhil_k | lakshmiS: makes sense. may be the init gerrit link can be posted there? | 15:12 |
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| nikhil_k | kragniz: ^ | 15:12 |
| lakshmiS | sure! | 15:12 |
| kragniz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/openstack/searchlight | 15:13 |
| kragniz | oops, there not here | 15:13 |
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| kragniz | done and maked as implemented | 15:14 |
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| lakshmiS | kragniz: thx | 15:15 |
| sjmc7 | yay! | 15:15 |
| nikhil_k | some more details added | 15:15 |
| * sigmavirus24 got distracted, sorry | 15:16 | |
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| kragniz | sigmavirus24: you missed all the fun! | 15:16 |
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| lakshmiS | sigmavirus24: check your inbox for all the blueprints assigned to you ;) | 15:17 |
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| * sigmavirus24 read the scrollback | 15:17 | |
| sigmavirus24 | lakshmiS: lol | 15:17 |
| sjmc7 | :) | 15:17 |
| sigmavirus24 | lakshmiS: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight shows none | 15:17 |
| sigmavirus24 | so I'm winning | 15:17 |
| lakshmiS | wait for it ... | 15:17 |
| nikhil_k | all unassigned go to sigmavirus24 :P | 15:17 |
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| nikhil_k | kragniz: I guess we can create one in glance for #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/remove-from-glance | 15:18 |
| nikhil_k | Should we mark it as started now? | 15:18 |
| sjmc7 | has any one volunteered to do it? | 15:19 |
| kragniz | can you mark a BP as being for more than one project | 15:19 |
| nikhil_k | I see kragniz assigned | 15:19 |
| kragniz | sjmc7: I sort of did | 15:19 |
| kragniz | not very attached to it, though | 15:19 |
| sjmc7 | good man! | 15:19 |
| lakshmiS | kragniz: thats the point. remove all the attachments from glance | 15:19 |
| nikhil_k | kragniz: umm, I can help out the spec+BP | 15:19 |
| nikhil_k | #action nikhil_k : create a glance spec and BP for port-out of CIS code | 15:20 |
| lakshmiS | kragniz: i can help with it, since i added most of it in glance ;) | 15:20 |
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| nikhil_k | I will link the spec to this BP too | 15:20 |
| kragniz | lakshmiS: great | 15:21 |
| sigmavirus24 | kragniz: you can't | 15:21 |
| nikhil_k | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/glance-image-api-plugin | 15:21 |
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| sigmavirus24 | (mark it as affecting more than one project) | 15:21 |
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| kragniz | sigmavirus24: :( | 15:22 |
| nikhil_k | sjmc7: I guess this work would go in Glance mostly | 15:22 |
| nikhil_k | ? | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | nikhil_k no | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | what we proposed for liberty was keeping it all in searchlight | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | because otherwise we have precisely the same problems we had for kilo that we have little control over the pace we can make changes | 15:23 |
| sjmc7 | and because if plugins are spread around everywhere, making changes to the base code is hard | 15:23 |
| lakshmiS | nikhil_k: did you mean that this is about glance images or where the code lives? | 15:23 |
| nikhil_k | hmm, I thought that was just for tests | 15:23 |
| nikhil_k | lakshmiS: I meant the plugin. | 15:23 |
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| nikhil_k | (code) | 15:24 |
| sjmc7 | we can discuss it but i think development will be VERY hard if we immediately try to push plugin code out to other projects | 15:24 |
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| kragniz | yeah, we discussed this a while ago | 15:24 |
| lakshmiS | nikhil_k: yeah we need to talk about it. | 15:24 |
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| nikhil_k | Looks like we should create a breakdown of the implementation of this BP | 15:25 |
| sjmc7 | the code's already there | 15:25 |
| sjmc7 | in the searchlight repo | 15:25 |
| lakshmiS | nikhil_k: the initial idea is to keep glance and nova plugin in searchlight to start with the initial codebase | 15:25 |
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| nikhil_k | I think putting this in Glance wouldn't hurt for Liberty and that can be an example for other project in next releases | 15:26 |
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| sjmc7 | it makes deployment, testing etc MUCH harder from the get go | 15:26 |
| lakshmiS | nikhil_k: I agree but that should be a seperate BP | 15:26 |
| nikhil_k | cool | 15:26 |
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| nikhil_k | so, this is very searchlight centric for now. We can leave other projects scope out. | 15:27 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah, i'm good with a separate BP. that is the direction we want to take, but i'd like to get those initial plugins done first | 15:27 |
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| nikhil_k | I think that may slow down adoption but we need to focus on getting it to work intiially. | 15:27 |
| lakshmiS | exactly! | 15:27 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah, that's my thought | 15:28 |
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| sjmc7 | but i agree with using glance as the intial example of where we want to go, just not right now | 15:28 |
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| lakshmiS | but in the long run its easy to maintain the glance plugin code in glance(especially for RBAC changes) | 15:29 |
| nikhil_k | yeah | 15:29 |
| nikhil_k | I think we may do oslo.versionedobjects this cycle then | 15:30 |
| nikhil_k | given there is b/w | 15:30 |
| nikhil_k | that complicates stuff a bit for indexing but we will see | 15:30 |
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| lakshmiS | yeah will have to maintain multiple index mappings | 15:31 |
| nikhil_k | agree and think the rythm should work | 15:31 |
| nikhil_k | for deployments we need to follow https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/devstack-plugin , right? but no one assigned yet | 15:32 |
| lakshmiS | i thought eklarso was interested | 15:32 |
| sjmc7 | someone was keen to do devstack integeration | 15:32 |
| nikhil_k | wko: ekarlso seem to be volunteers | 15:32 |
| sjmc7 | ah, yeah, that's right | 15:32 |
| nikhil_k | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-searchlight-brainstorming | 15:33 |
| lakshmiS | wko did the intial devstack patch | 15:33 |
| sjmc7 | wayne i think? | 15:33 |
| sjmc7 | yeah | 15:33 |
| nikhil_k | can we assign someone to that ? | 15:34 |
| lakshmiS | lets assign to wko to start with | 15:34 |
| nikhil_k | given it would be great to have it working earlier in the cycle | 15:34 |
| nikhil_k | fyi, Liberty-1 is next week | 15:35 |
| ekarlso | volunteer for what ? :D | 15:35 |
| nikhil_k | ekarlso: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/devstack-plugin | 15:35 |
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| nikhil_k | lakshmiS: sjmc7 we have to just port the code proposed against glance for this https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/set-up-functional-tests ? | 15:36 |
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| sjmc7 | nikhil_k yep | 15:37 |
| ekarlso | nikhil_k: oh, who wrote that ? | 15:37 |
| sjmc7 | i can probably do that | 15:37 |
| nikhil_k | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157209/ | 15:37 |
| ekarlso | sjmc7: I can help you with it if you want me to | 15:38 |
| nikhil_k | #action sjmc7 to port out functional tests proposed against glance to propose against searchlight | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | we're talking about different things i think | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | i'm not doing the devstack stuff :) | 15:38 |
| ekarlso | sjmc7: the functional tests part ;) | 15:38 |
| lakshmiS | :) | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | ok. i'll port the review over; it will likely need some work | 15:38 |
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| lakshmiS | ekarlso: I can ask wayne to get in touch with you on the devstack patch. Are you interested working on it? | 15:39 |
| ekarlso | lakshmiS: ofc | 15:39 |
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| ekarlso | sjmc7: judging from the looks of it you need to add base scaffolding to get it to work | 15:39 |
| sjmc7 | aye | 15:39 |
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| nikhil_k | yeah, glance spins up servers for functional tests | 15:40 |
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| nikhil_k | I wonder if that's a correct terminology for such tests more so for searchlight | 15:40 |
| nikhil_k | any preference to calling them integration tests? | 15:40 |
| ekarlso | nikhil_k: uh I think for that you could just cheat and post out notifications to the MQ where the listeners are... | 15:40 |
| sjmc7 | they are functional, i think, not integration | 15:41 |
| sjmc7 | integration would be tempest | 15:41 |
| ekarlso | or am I talking about smth diff ;P | 15:41 |
| ekarlso | ah, probably are .. | 15:41 |
| ekarlso | nvm me :) | 15:41 |
| sjmc7 | the existing tests were primarily to test RBAC, not notification processing | 15:41 |
| nikhil_k | tempest tests for integration are being ported out | 15:41 |
| nikhil_k | given we would be testing plugins for different projects, I am in more dilemma about the name | 15:42 |
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| nikhil_k | tests in glance are confusing as they are | 15:42 |
| nikhil_k | we were going to port out functional tests to tempest as they are more integration like | 15:42 |
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| nikhil_k | so that's a bad name currently there | 15:42 |
| sjmc7 | ah, ok | 15:43 |
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| sjmc7 | ummm.. in that case, i might not be the best person to do it | 15:43 |
| kragniz | I thought other projects were moving their functional tests out of tempest now? | 15:43 |
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| nikhil_k | sjmc7: I or some one would need to follow up on what's the speed of porting out tempest tests under projects | 15:43 |
| nikhil_k | in that case we can get rid of functional and just keep integration | 15:44 |
| nikhil_k | s/under/to go under projects umbrella/g | 15:44 |
| sjmc7 | ok.. i'm confused. should i hold off moving that un-merged glance review into searchlight? | 15:44 |
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| nikhil_k | sjmc7: yeah, may be we can pick it up next week | 15:44 |
| ekarlso | kragniz: moving tests out of tempest itself and in project tree under folders aclled "functionaltests" or alike using the tempest-lib | 15:45 |
| sjmc7 | personally i think it's useful having tests that can be run outside the context of devstack that actually exercise elasticsearch | 15:45 |
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| ekarlso | kragniz: so each proj has independent functionaltests | 15:45 |
| nikhil_k | sjmc7: yeah, it would be a very painful job to maintain them and they are very expensive on the CI/CD | 15:45 |
| nikhil_k | yeah == I agree | 15:46 |
| nikhil_k | but that's the tradeoff | 15:46 |
| sjmc7 | ok. so - hold off for now? | 15:46 |
| nikhil_k | yes, please | 15:46 |
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| nikhil_k | #action: nikhil_k check tempest-lib adoption speed | 15:46 |
| ekarlso | nikhil_k: I'l help you out if you want to .. | 15:47 |
| nikhil_k | I just wanted to discuss the preference for the mid-cycle location and dates | 15:47 |
| nikhil_k | ekarlso: awesome, that would be super helpful. ping out offline.. | 15:47 |
| nikhil_k | you* | 15:47 |
| nikhil_k | #topic Mid cycle | 15:47 |
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| nikhil_k | #info Horizon is officially the week of July 21 in Fort Collins | 15:47 |
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| nikhil_k | We are discussing multiple possiblities for Glance atm | 15:48 |
| nikhil_k | but some memebers are suggesting July 28th | 15:48 |
| sjmc7 | it would be easy for me to go to the horizon one; i can probably get clearance to travel somewhere else but won't be able to do two weeks | 15:48 |
| lakshmiS | I am ok with any date. I will attend remote due to travel budget problems | 15:49 |
| nikhil_k | ah | 15:49 |
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| david-lyle | the 21st was the only way Horizon could get critical mass | 15:49 |
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| nikhil_k | yeah, thanks for helping get feedback and decision david-lyle :-) | 15:50 |
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| david-lyle | midcycle scheduling is not fun, for the record :) | 15:51 |
| sjmc7 | :) | 15:51 |
| nikhil_k | anyone else? | 15:51 |
| sjmc7 | is the preference that SL be part of glance's? i guess that makes more sense given the personnel | 15:51 |
| nikhil_k | krykowski : would you be joining us? | 15:51 |
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| nikhil_k | sjmc7: My thought was that Travis et.al would be at the Horizon so, may be we can do discussion there and at Glance's too given people can travel | 15:52 |
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| david-lyle | I still think a virtual midcycle might make sense for Searchlight | 15:53 |
| nikhil_k | If Glance happens in bburg, there would be decent number of people interested in getting involved and providing feedback | 15:53 |
| sjmc7 | bburg? | 15:53 |
| nikhil_k | david-lyle: sure. I was thinking more along the lines of -- a few active folks show up | 15:53 |
| nikhil_k | oops, bburg == Blacksburg, VA | 15:54 |
| david-lyle | nikhil_k: sure, either way | 15:54 |
| nikhil_k | sigmavirus24: do you think if we set location to that you may get to travel? | 15:54 |
| sjmc7 | my apologies for not recognizing the acronym for that seething metropolis! | 15:54 |
| david-lyle | sjmc7: :) | 15:54 |
| nikhil_k | david-lyle: but I agree, the entire team would need a virtual mid-cycle | 15:54 |
| sigmavirus24 | nikhil_k: so tl;dr I'm a secondary caregiver and travel is just not going to work for a while now + the sprint planning shenanigans on my team mean I probably won't be able to even take a vacation until August | 15:55 |
| sjmc7 | i'm ok planning for a virtual one | 15:55 |
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| nikhil_k | sjmc7: heh. habit fail :-) | 15:55 |
| ekarlso | if virtual then I can attend :P | 15:55 |
| sjmc7 | and i'm similar - other work commitments are starting to crunch for the next 2 months | 15:55 |
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| nikhil_k | sigmavirus24: gotcha | 15:56 |
| nikhil_k | Thanks for the feedback ! | 15:56 |
| sjmc7 | let's see what glance decides, and then make a decision | 15:57 |
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| nikhil_k | I guess Glance team just needs to decide how many can show up if non-colocated event happens | 15:57 |
| sjmc7 | yeah. it sounds like not many here can travel in any case | 15:57 |
| nikhil_k | I am a bit worried about people not getting budget approved in that case | 15:58 |
| nikhil_k | may be we will cancle and keep things virtual this cycle | 15:58 |
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| kragniz | I'd be good with that | 15:58 |
| lakshmiS | sounds like virtual this time! | 15:59 |
| sjmc7 | okey dokey | 15:59 |
| nikhil_k | distributed team! | 15:59 |
| nikhil_k | Thanks all. | 15:59 |
| sjmc7 | thanks for running it | 15:59 |
| nikhil_k | :) | 16:00 |
| nikhil_k | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 18 16:00:09 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-06-18-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-06-18-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-06-18-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
| david-lyle | thanks nikhil_k | 16:00 |
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| b3rnard0 | hello | 16:06 |
| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 16:06 |
| palendae | Here | 16:06 |
| hughsaunders | hi | 16:06 |
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| svg | o/ | 16:06 |
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| b3rnard0 | #startmeeting OpenStack Ansible Meeting | 16:07 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 18 16:07:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is b3rnard0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:07 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack Ansible Meeting)" | 16:07 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible_meeting' | 16:07 |
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| b3rnard0 | #topic Agenda & rollcall | 16:07 |
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| odyssey4me | o/ | 16:07 |
| b3rnard0 | #chair odyssey4me | 16:08 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b3rnard0 odyssey4me | 16:08 |
| b3rnard0 | presente! | 16:08 |
| odyssey4me | howdy all, sorry about the late start | 16:08 |
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| b3rnard0 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 16:09 |
| odyssey4me | (to be included in the roll call you need to say something after the meeting start) :) | 16:09 |
| stevelle | something | 16:09 |
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| b3rnard0 | anything? | 16:09 |
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| hughsaunders | <-- present | 16:09 |
| evrardjp | something | 16:10 |
| palendae | Present | 16:10 |
| KLevenstein | o/ | 16:10 |
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| svg | \m/ | 16:10 |
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| b3rnard0 | was the agenda updated? because that's what I'll use for this meeting | 16:11 |
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| odyssey4me | b3rnard0 we'll go with it - if anything wasn't added then it'll come into open discussion | 16:11 |
| odyssey4me | shall we begin? | 16:12 |
| rromans | . | 16:12 |
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| b3rnard0 | #topic To BigTent or not to BigTent that is the question? | 16:12 |
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| odyssey4me | I think we pretty much agree on this last week. | 16:12 |
| odyssey4me | Is gregdek around? | 16:12 |
| b3rnard0 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osad-openstack-naming | 16:12 |
| * sigmavirus24 is present | 16:12 | |
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| odyssey4me | I guess not. Well, last I checked we had five positive votes, and just need 3 more I think. | 16:13 |
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| sigmavirus24 | yep | 16:14 |
| * sigmavirus24 forgets how many searchlight needed | 16:14 | |
| odyssey4me | a reminder to everyone to check the suggested names and add your thoughts, and vote | 16:14 |
| sigmavirus24 | a good idea would be to ask ttx to add this to the TC meeting | 16:15 |
| evrardjp | First, crucible is a product from atlassian IIRC, it's maybe not a good idea, right? | 16:15 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp if you can add that to the etherpad that'd be great | 16:15 |
| odyssey4me | we don't want to end up infringing trademarks | 16:16 |
| odyssey4me | no-one needs another quantum debacle :p | 16:16 |
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| odyssey4me | the governance change was submitted anyway - does someone have the review link handy? | 16:18 |
| sigmavirus24 | https://review.openstack.org/191105 | 16:18 |
| sigmavirus24 | #link https://review.openstack.org/191105 | 16:18 |
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| evrardjp | odyssey4me: done | 16:18 |
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| b3rnard0 | okay anything else on this topic? | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | ok, so we have a few more days to go before the results, and yes sigmavirus I think it would be a good idea for cloudnull to ask ttx to add the vote to the TC agenda | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | right, I think that's all on this topic | 16:22 |
| * svg on train, almost at destination.. | 16:22 | |
| b3rnard0 | #topic Review action items from last week | 16:22 |
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| b3rnard0 | #info gregdek talk to legal people about using the ansible name in the OSAD project for OpenStack governance. | 16:23 |
| odyssey4me | I don't have any feedback from cloudnull who couldn't make it today - we'll have to carry that over to next week | 16:23 |
| b3rnard0 | k | 16:23 |
| b3rnard0 | #action gregdek talk to legal people about using the ansible name in the OSAD project for OpenStack governance. | 16:23 |
| b3rnard0 | #info commit governance change to https://github.com/openstack/governance | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | #action: cloudnull to ask ttx to add the openstack-ansible vote review https://review.openstack.org/191105 to the TC meeting agenda | 16:24 |
| cloudnull | sorry, im not really here but https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee we're already on the agenda for next week. | 16:24 |
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| odyssey4me | lol, ok - action done then :p | 16:24 |
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| b3rnard0 | those were all of the action items i had on the list from last week | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | yep, ok - next | 16:25 |
| palendae | I noticed my stuff about the docs BP is still on the wiki page. I'll clean those out | 16:25 |
| b3rnard0 | #topic Blueprints | 16:25 |
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| b3rnard0 | okay, so we'll ignore that one from palendae | 16:25 |
| b3rnard0 | any blueprints worth discussing? | 16:26 |
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| stevelle | I suspect we don't have anyone to speak for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192421/ today | 16:27 |
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| odyssey4me | yeah, ok we can briefly cover that | 16:27 |
| b3rnard0 | no | 16:27 |
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| palendae | That's the only one I can see that I know | 16:28 |
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| odyssey4me | the spec for multi-region (https://review.openstack.org/192421) will probably not be worked on immediately, it will probably continue some time in the future | 16:28 |
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| odyssey4me | if no-one has any questions, comments or anything relating to blueprints, let's move on | 16:29 |
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| stevelle | I would suggest that not having any blueprints to discuss means we need to make work for ourselves | 16:29 |
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| b3rnard0 | i think we'll be getting some specs in the near future | 16:30 |
| palendae | stevelle: So what BP are you proposing? :) | 16:30 |
| stevelle | soon | 16:30 |
| b3rnard0 | #topic Reviews | 16:30 |
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| stevelle | I wont hold up reviews | 16:30 |
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| odyssey4me | there are some showing up here which don't have specs yet: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible | 16:30 |
| odyssey4me | are there any reviews that anyone wants focus on? | 16:31 |
| odyssey4me | or does anyone have unanswered questions or wants to discuss current reviews | 16:31 |
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| odyssey4me | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:stackforge/os-ansible-deployment,n,z | 16:32 |
| odyssey4me | or rather: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:stackforge/os-ansible-deployment+is:open,n,z | 16:32 |
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| odyssey4me | alright - I think there's one thing that I'd like to ask is that we stop doing premature cherry-picks | 16:34 |
| odyssey4me | ie only backport a patch once the one to master has merged | 16:35 |
| stevelle | merged, not just gets workflow approval | 16:35 |
| stevelle | ? | 16:35 |
| b3rnard0 | #info odyssey4me: alright - I think there's one thing that I'd like to ask is that we stop doing premature cherry-picks; ie only backport a patch once the one to master has merged | 16:35 |
| odyssey4me | this is to prevent something merging into another branch before it hits master | 16:35 |
| odyssey4me | I see a review that's just got +2+w for kilo, but the master review is still -1 | 16:36 |
| odyssey4me | thanks, shall we move on then? | 16:36 |
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| b3rnard0 | #topic Bugs | 16:37 |
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| odyssey4me | Does anyone have any questions/comments about any current bugs? | 16:37 |
| odyssey4me | #link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible | 16:37 |
| evrardjp | yes | 16:38 |
| evrardjp | I'm new, so I don't get how #1424797 Implement SSL for spice consoles is tagged as medium | 16:39 |
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| b3rnard0 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1424797 | 16:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1424797 in openstack-ansible trunk "Implement SSL for spice consoles" [Medium,Triaged] | 16:40 |
| evrardjp | while I don't ask to have a higher priority for it, I'd like to know how it works, but (I guess) I'm far from the topic. Sorry for getting out of the path | 16:41 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp that was probably a rating from discussion between the bug reporter and the triage team from the tuesday meetings | 16:41 |
| evrardjp | ok | 16:41 |
| evrardjp | thanks for the clarification | 16:41 |
| odyssey4me | it should actually be marked confirmed as I don't see any triage information in there | 16:41 |
| odyssey4me | (ie there's no solution noted) | 16:42 |
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| odyssey4me | if anyone has a solution, please add it as a comment or submit a review for it :) | 16:42 |
| odyssey4me | anyone/anything else? | 16:43 |
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| sigmavirus24 | s/add it as a comment or/ | 16:43 |
| sigmavirus24 | / | 16:43 |
| odyssey4me | :p | 16:43 |
| odyssey4me | ok, shall we move on then? | 16:44 |
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| b3rnard0 | #topic Milestones | 16:44 |
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| odyssey4me | alright, our targeted release dates for 10.1.9/9.0.10 is tomorrow, and we seem to still have plenty of reviews in flight that are scheduled for them | 16:46 |
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| odyssey4me | oh, and 11.0.3 | 16:46 |
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| odyssey4me | link: https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+milestone/11.0.3 | 16:46 |
| odyssey4me | #link: https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+milestone/10.1.9 | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | #link: https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+milestone/9.0.10 | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | #link: https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+milestone/11.0.3 | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | 9.0.10 looks fine | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | is this one only juno? https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/juno/+bug/1462572 | 16:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1462572 in openstack-ansible juno "[WARNING]: It is unnecessary to use '{{' in loops, leave variables in loop expressions bare" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Darren Birkett (darren-birkett) | 16:48 |
| odyssey4me | ah, yes it is - ok, it's committed | 16:49 |
| sigmavirus24 | woot | 16:49 |
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| odyssey4me | we need a volunteer to pick up https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1424705 | 16:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1424705 in openstack-ansible trunk "tear apart the schedule for cron.daily/weeky/monthly " [Low,Triaged] | 16:49 |
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| odyssey4me | otherwise it'll slide to the next release | 16:50 |
| sigmavirus24 | it's not a high priority | 16:50 |
| sigmavirus24 | I think we can let it slide | 16:51 |
| sigmavirus24 | especially if the targeted release date is tomorrow | 16:51 |
| odyssey4me | sigmavirus24 yeah, I'll leave that decision to cloudnull | 16:51 |
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| odyssey4me | can we get some eyes on https://review.openstack.org/192102 please | 16:52 |
| odyssey4me | it's a backport from master to kilo | 16:52 |
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| sigmavirus24 | #link https://review.openstack.org/192102 | 16:53 |
| b3rnard0 | we are down to 5 mins; should we switch to open discussion? | 16:54 |
| evrardjp | sigmavirus24: as an end user, I find this clearer | 16:55 |
| odyssey4me | b3 yep - please check other bugs and reviews associated with them | 16:55 |
| odyssey4me | b3rnard0 ^ | 16:55 |
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| sigmavirus24 | evrardjp: not sure what you mean | 16:56 |
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| evrardjp | splitting environment files by component makes it easier to read | 16:57 |
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| b3rnard0 | odyssey4me: with them? please clarify | 16:57 |
| odyssey4me | b3rnard0 I mean regarding the milestones | 16:57 |
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| b3rnard0 | okay | 16:58 |
| odyssey4me | sorry - that was a general call to action to look through the next milestones and try and get fix committed for any bugs listed in them | 16:58 |
| evrardjp | sigmavirus24: so I think, if it's more readable/modular, it's a better effort in the long term | 16:58 |
| odyssey4me | and I think we're pretty much out of time - thanks all | 16:58 |
| b3rnard0 | thanks everyone | 16:58 |
| b3rnard0 | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 18 16:59:09 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-06-18-16.07.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-06-18-16.07.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-06-18-16.07.log.html | 16:59 |
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| sigmavirus24 | evrardjp: let's redirect to #openstack-ansible | 16:59 |
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| cathy__ | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 18 17:02:34 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cathy__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:02 |
| cathy__ | hi everyone | 17:02 |
| shivharis | hi | 17:03 |
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| armax | yello | 17:03 |
| LouisF | hi | 17:03 |
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| johnsom | o/ | 17:03 |
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| sballe | o/ | 17:03 |
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| cathy__ | here is today's agenda: 1.Update on repository creation | 17:04 |
| xgerman | o/ | 17:05 |
| cathy__ | we have created a repository for the service chain development at the openstack repository | 17:05 |
| cathy__ | any question on that? | 17:05 |
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| cathy__ | Agenda 2: Finalize the SFC Feature project scope: functional module breakdown and ownership as well as the types of service functions that will be chained in this feature development. | 17:06 |
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| armax | cathy__: I move the existing spec proposal over to the new repo | 17:06 |
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| cathy__ | in last IRC meeting, we go through the list of functional modules and sign-up of each piece | 17:06 |
| armax | all sfc-related tasks should be redirected to the new project setup | 17:06 |
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| armax | I think we still need to make one final push on the api proposal before we can go ahead with the functional decomposition of the project | 17:07 |
| cathy__ | armax: OK, let's take a look at the spec in the new repo after the meeting. | 17:07 |
| LouisF | armax: can you point to the new repo | 17:07 |
| armax | wtith no consensus I am not sure what we are coding for | 17:07 |
| armax | LouisF: I sent an email yesterday night for details | 17:08 |
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| armax | #link github.com/openstack/openstack/networking-sfc | 17:08 |
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| armax | oops | 17:08 |
| armax | #link https://github.com/openstack/networking-sfc | 17:08 |
| armax | LouisF: I loaded your API proposal here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192933/ | 17:09 |
| LouisF | the older spec with the reviews is at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177946/ | 17:09 |
| LouisF | armax: thanks | 17:09 |
| armax | forget the older spec | 17:09 |
| cathy__ | The API discussion is Agenda #3 3.Service chain API and spec discussion and try to finalize the service chain API design so that we can start implementing it. | 17:09 |
| armax | it’s abandoned | 17:09 |
| armax | you’re still the author of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192933/ | 17:09 |
| LouisF | armax: the review history is there | 17:09 |
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| LouisF | armax: ok | 17:10 |
| armax | LouisF: the history is mainly bollocks since the patch has been in a bad rebase for so long | 17:10 |
| armax | but sure | 17:10 |
| armax | the patch is there, no one is ever going to wipe it out of gerrit | 17:10 |
| mohankumar__ | Hi Cathy | 17:10 |
| cathy__ | I think it will be good to keep the original spec which has a lot of people's comments. | 17:10 |
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| cathy__ | mohankumar__: hi | 17:11 |
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| cathy__ | Let's also put a link to the original spec so that people knows what comments/input have been suggested before and how the spec has evolves based on those comments. | 17:12 |
| cathy__ | has evolved | 17:12 |
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| armax | cathy__: done | 17:13 |
| cathy__ | I mean a link on the new spec to the original spec so that people can view all the input/comments that have been made before | 17:13 |
| armax | cathy__: yes | 17:14 |
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| cathy__ | armax: you are quick, so you are done with putting the link to the original spec? Thanks! | 17:14 |
| armax | cathy__: yes, it’s in the commit message | 17:14 |
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| cathy__ | BTW, Swami sent me a message saying he can not attend today's meeting since he has an event or something. Also Vikram is on vacation. | 17:15 |
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| cathy__ | armax: how would you suggest to go with the final push on the API proposal? | 17:17 |
| cathy__ | I agree that we really need to get this finalized so that we move forward with the design and implementation. | 17:17 |
| armax | I was going to review it once again now, I would imagine that we need to turn it around quickly as soon as comments come in | 17:17 |
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| cathy__ | armax: sure. | 17:18 |
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| cathy__ | armax: Louis and I will turn this around as quick as possible now that the repo is created | 17:18 |
| cathy__ | Since people have given a lot of comments before on the original API spec, we are not seeing much comment coming in now | 17:19 |
| armax | since the repo provisioning took longer than expected, I’d say let’s give us a few more days to make sure we catch as much feedback as we can get | 17:19 |
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| armax | we had an initial assessment of who was going to work on what…technically speaking code can start being pushed for review now | 17:19 |
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| armax | but it’s mostly likely going to be through drastic revisions if the shape of the proposal changes as well | 17:20 |
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| cathy__ | armax: agree. Let's set it to next Wednesday. What do you think? | 17:20 |
| armax | cathy__: btw as far as the management groups for the repo is concerned | 17:20 |
| cathy__ | armax: In our last meeting, I think we said one week time window. Now let';s extend to another week | 17:21 |
| armax | you and I are currently member of the -core and -release them…but I would love for someone else to step in | 17:21 |
| armax | to help the management and progress of the project | 17:21 |
| cathy__ | What do you mean by "someone else to step in"? Do you mean you have a representative? | 17:21 |
| armax | as much as I willing to help I am stretched thin as is | 17:22 |
| LouisF | armax: we discussed task assignments last week: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sfc_project/2015/sfc_project.2015-06-11-17.01.log.html | 17:22 |
| cathy__ | I can manage the progress of the project if you trust me. I have done project management before | 17:22 |
| armax | anyone can review code, but only the members of the -core and -release team can merge code, create tags, etc | 17:22 |
| mohankumar__ | completed cli python neutron client changes .. not able to.submit for review getting remote rejection error . .. | 17:23 |
| armax | we should share this responsibility amongst people who are going to work the most on the project | 17:23 |
| armax | who’s intereted? | 17:23 |
| armax | interested? | 17:23 |
| cathy__ | mohankumar__: great. Given the time constraint of this meeitng, we may need to work with you on the error off line. | 17:24 |
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| ramanjaneya_ | Hi cathy__ | 17:25 |
| * armax thinks no-one is interested in the extra chores | 17:25 | |
| armax | interesting... | 17:25 |
| cathy__ | armax: quite some people have contacted me and expressed interest on contributing to this project. Also in our last meeting, we have people signed up on the tasks. | 17:25 |
| cathy__ | I have added their names to the core team | 17:25 |
| cathy__ | ramanjaneya_: hi | 17:26 |
| LouisF | armax: add my name to core | 17:26 |
| * mestery wants to be a core too :) | 17:26 | |
| * mestery lurks | 17:26 | |
| armax | ok, cathy__ if you have taken care of this, fine | 17:26 |
| mestery | Very ominous sounding I know | 17:26 |
| cathy__ | LouisF: I have added your name to the core | 17:26 |
| armax | mestery: you’re core for sure since you’re the Neutron PTL | 17:26 |
| LouisF | thanks | 17:26 |
| mestery | armax: danke | 17:26 |
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| armax | mestery: done | 17:26 |
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| cathy__ | mestery: yes, sure you will be core:-) | 17:27 |
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| mestery | cathy__: danke as well :) | 17:27 |
| cathy__ | mestery: you and armando will be core for sure | 17:27 |
| armax | not that anyone needs to express an opinion right now, but happy to see more people involved to get this in the direction that suits everybody | 17:27 |
| armax | reaching us out publicly is best | 17:28 |
| cathy__ | armax: agree. I sent out an email to the openstack-dev with all the names of developers who have signed up for the contribution. the contributors include people from multiple different companies as well as individual contributors. | 17:29 |
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| armax | ok, perhaps we want to move on from the bureocratic trivia | 17:29 |
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| cathy__ | ok, let's come back to the API discussion | 17:29 |
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| cathy__ | armax: OK with we wait until next Wednesday to finalize it? | 17:30 |
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| LouisF | sounds ok | 17:30 |
| armax | cathy__: sure, let’s aim for that, ideally it’ll depend on the level of feeback being gathered | 17:31 |
| armax | cathy__: I am personally going to review it by the end of the week | 17:31 |
| Brian___ | try to finilize it by next WED | 17:31 |
| cathy__ | armax: great. | 17:31 |
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| cathy__ | let me summarize today's topic discussion | 17:32 |
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| cathy__ | #topic repository has been created | 17:32 |
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| LouisF | nbouthors: saw you email on adding AppId to flow-filter | 17:33 |
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| cathy__ | #topic API discussion and finalize by next Wednesday | 17:33 |
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| cathy__ | nbouthors: Hi Nicolas | 17:33 |
| cathy__ | sdake: hi | 17:33 |
| armax | LouisF: I am still on the fence if we we should tie NSH specifics to the abstract API, maybe I got it wrong | 17:34 |
| cathy__ | #topic project management and core members | 17:34 |
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| armax | but I’d rather avoid the pollution for now, if we can | 17:34 |
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| nbouthors | cathy__: LouisF Hi | 17:34 |
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| armax | btw I’d like to understand the relationship between this effort and use case https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169201/ | 17:36 |
| cathy__ | armax: we do not tie the NSH specifics to API. But to support service chain, the vSwitch needs to know how to communicate with the service function VM about service treatment. The communication could be via NSH or VLAN or just raw packet without any chin identification | 17:36 |
| armax | the person filed the use case and then disappeared | 17:36 |
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| armax | cathy__: ok | 17:37 |
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| cathy__ | I mean packet without any chain identification | 17:37 |
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| LouisF | armax: it can be added as an item in the optional parameters | 17:38 |
| armax | LouisF: ok I’ll ponder on this a bit | 17:38 |
| armax | more | 17:38 |
| LouisF | armax: ok | 17:39 |
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| cathy__ | In the first phase, there will be no service function VM that supports NSH, so the vSwitch needs to act as Proxy. But in the future, there will be quite some service VM that supports the new servic chain header since it is in IETF standard and it enables more rich service chain functionality such as metadata and with chain ID as the index for forwarding table, it greatly improves the performance of the vSwitch | 17:39 |
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| LouisF | armax: regarding use cases spec - that addresses sfc in a general way, this effort is to provide a means for supporitng those use cases | 17:41 |
| cathy__ | So our API needs to covers service VMs that do not support new chain header and VMs that support it, and the vSwitch needs to be told which format to use for communicating with the SF VMs. That is why we need this context parameter in the API to pass down to the vSwitch | 17:41 |
| armax | LouisF: I understand, but the use spec case references your spec, but the author seems to have stopped addressing the patch | 17:42 |
| cathy__ | armax: Let me provide some information about the use case spec | 17:42 |
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| armax | cathy__: no need to do it here | 17:43 |
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| armax | I was only curious whether we should be taking over that one too | 17:43 |
| cathy__ | Based on my communication and comments with the author, the use case spec just provides the use case and our spec provides the design/code to realize the use case. So it is a good match. | 17:44 |
| armax | cathy__: agree…but they’d need to be in synch | 17:45 |
| armax | and the patch has a ton of -1’s and no feedback | 17:45 |
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| cathy__ | I think the use case spec can be updated one more time to incorporate all the comments that have been given. The use case is in good sync with work that have been done in IETF and ONF L4~L7 work group. Our spec is also in good sync with IETF and ONF L4~L7 work group spec. | 17:46 |
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| cathy__ | So ours is a good implementation of the use case described in the use case spec. | 17:47 |
| s3wong | cathy__: want to change the meeting topic? | 17:47 |
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| cathy__ | I think people put -1 because the latest comments are not incorporated in the use case spec. | 17:48 |
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| armax | I don’t disgree, I am just wondering who does what | 17:48 |
| armax | anyway | 17:48 |
| armax | moving on | 17:48 |
| cathy__ | s3wong: we are now on the topic of 4.Deep dive into technical questions of SFC | 17:48 |
| cathy__ | if no more questions. we can move on | 17:49 |
| cathy__ | s3wong: Any topic do you have in mind and want to discuss? | 17:49 |
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| s3wong | cathy__: not really, I merely pointed out that the meeting topic (reflected by #topic) is still "project management and core members) | 17:50 |
| cathy__ | topic 4.Tentative timeline for the feature development | 17:50 |
| cathy__ | s3wong: thanks! | 17:51 |
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| cathy__ | s3wong: I did not know that | 17:51 |
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| cathy__ | #topic Tentative timeline for the feature development | 17:51 |
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| s3wong | cathy__: there :-) | 17:51 |
| cathy__ | armax: any suggestion on the timeline? | 17:51 |
| armax | un…I am never good at swag estimates | 17:52 |
| cathy__ | s3wong: btw, any interest to join development of some pieces? each piece has people signed up already, but it is always good to have more back-up and reviewers. | 17:53 |
| LouisF | what are the dates needed for liberty? | 17:53 |
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| s3wong | cathy__: sure... I can help out on either the API/DB or OVS driver... whichever one needs more contributors | 17:53 |
| armax | but I would expect having L1 over next week, we really only have L2 to get the bulk of the functionality in and L3 to refine, stabilize and testing | 17:53 |
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| s3wong | armax: very aggressive | 17:54 |
| cathy__ | armax: btw, s3wong sure. I will update the ownership sign up and add your names there. | 17:54 |
| armax | s3wong: very aggressive is an understatement! | 17:54 |
| cathy__ | s3wong: thanks! | 17:54 |
| s3wong | cathy__: sure. Thanks! | 17:54 |
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| armax | s3wong: wildy and preposterously aggressive might be more approriate | 17:55 |
| s3wong | armax: agreed. Consider we only just got our repo set up... :-) | 17:55 |
| LouisF | armax: a man for understatement .... | 17:55 |
| armax | if the foundations lied down are solid, I am not worried if we ran out of time | 17:56 |
| cathy__ | Let's get the feedback from each piece owner about their timeline of completion in next IRC meeting | 17:56 |
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| s3wong | cathy__: sure | 17:57 |
| cathy__ | armax: btw, Andreas said the Neutron team has adopted this project, so there is no need for election of a PTL. Can you confirm this? This will save my effort of wondering how we should position this project. | 17:58 |
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| armax | cathy__: yes, correct | 17:58 |
| cathy__ | armax: thanks. | 17:58 |
| cathy__ | time is up. Let's stop here and meet next week. Thanks everyone! | 17:59 |
| LouisF | bye | 17:59 |
| cathy__ | bye everyone | 17:59 |
| s3wong | thanks | 17:59 |
| Brian___ | bye | 17:59 |
| armax | bye | 17:59 |
| mohankumar__ | Bye cathy .. thanks :-) | 17:59 |
| cathy__ | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 18 18:00:01 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2015/service_chaining.2015-06-18-17.02.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2015/service_chaining.2015-06-18-17.02.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2015/service_chaining.2015-06-18-17.02.log.html | 18:00 |
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