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| EmilienM | hello here, Puppet meeting is starting in 4 min | 14:56 |
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| mdorman | i will miss the first few minutes, gotta drive in to work for a meeting at :30 | 14:58 |
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| EmilienM | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 12 15:00:07 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20150512 | 15:00 |
| crinkle | o/ | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | roll call, who is here today? | 15:00 |
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| spredzy | hello | 15:00 |
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| EmilienM | let's start! | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | #topic CI status | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI status (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:01 | |
| EmilienM | as usual, a quick status on CI | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | I updated the spreadsheet | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1i2z5QyvukHCWU_JjkWrTpn-PexPBnt3bWPlQfiDGsj8/edit#gid=0 | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | beaker: the centos jobs are now here, and I'm working on it this week to have them green | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | crinkle, sbadia: I'll probably poke you to review them | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | sbadia: can we have a status on puppet4 ? | 15:02 |
| sbadia | still missing nova, neutron and swift | 15:03 |
| sbadia | but my free time for the moment is near 0 :( | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | sbadia: It seems like some time we did not make progress on it. Would you need some help from the community ? | 15:03 |
| sbadia | I can finish nova today, but if somone would help on other it would be nice | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | sbadia: I guess it's the same status for "Backport RSpec3.x to stable branches" | 15:04 |
| sbadia | yep | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | is anyone here willing to help sbadia on Backport RSpec3.x to stable branches and Puppet4 work ? | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | sbadia: seems like not (yet) - maybe can you raise something on the mailing list? | 15:05 |
| sbadia | ok | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | I'm pretty sure we can have some help | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | #action sbadia asks on ML to get some help on rspec & puppet4 work | 15:05 |
| Hunner | o/ | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | Hunner: willing to help? :) | 15:05 |
| gchamoul | o? | 15:06 |
| Hunner | I can help with auxiliary project, but I'm pretty swamped ATM :/ | 15:06 |
| Hunner | (rspec-puppet support for puppet 4 functions is on my to-do list, for example) | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | Hunner: I'm just asking, feel free to say no. | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | Any help need to be synced with what sbadia is doing, so please reach him before starting something | 15:07 |
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| EmilienM | and a last information about CI is spredzy and I are going to push testing on puppet-tripleo (rspec + beaker) | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: if you still feel we can make it :P | 15:08 |
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| EmilienM | #action EmilienM push beaker tests to puppet-tripleo | 15:08 |
| spredzy | EmilienM, sure thing | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | cool | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | let's move | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | #topic Summit | 15:09 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:09 | |
| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-summit-design-puppet | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-ops-puppet | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | if you have a session to propose, make sure to do it before Thursday | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | so I can work on schedule this week-end | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | we have free slots I think | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | also, crinkle and I will attend a session with os-infra about CI | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | we try to bring consistency in puppet modules functional testin | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | feel free to join of course | 15:11 |
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| mfisch | we have free slots but we also have people with other stuff to do | 15:11 |
| mfisch | mike and I both have talks that day | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | is someone willing to lead "Handling of config file values along with parameter defaults" session ? | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: sorry, but we can't satisfy everyone ;-) | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | I already managed to have a room for a full day | 15:12 |
| mfisch | EmilienM: yeah we just need to be cognizant of that | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: we will do our best to do so. Feel free to bring any suggestion | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: let me know in PM your schedule asap, please | 15:12 |
| mfisch | I think for me earlier is better | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | nobody to lead the default parameters session? | 15:13 |
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| mfisch | I was thinking we'd spend 5 mins and try to plan out the sessions a bit | 15:13 |
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| EmilienM | if nobody is volunteer, I'll take it. It's a really important topic | 15:13 |
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| EmilienM | mfisch: right now? or next week? | 15:13 |
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| mfisch | next week | 15:14 |
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| EmilienM | mfisch: sounds good to me | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | ok, putting my name in the meantime | 15:14 |
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| EmilienM | mfisch: there is also the OPS session | 15:15 |
| mfisch | yep | 15:15 |
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| EmilienM | crinkle: should we organize it too with some kind of agenda? | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | it's 40 minutes | 15:16 |
| mfisch | that one has always been more of a chat session | 15:16 |
| mfisch | what are prople doing | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | yeah | 15:16 |
| mfisch | what do people have issues with | 15:16 |
| mfisch | the reason is that thats a more general audience than our full day stuff | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | and etherpad will be good to track the feedback | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | I would be very happy to have the OPS session *before* Design | 15:16 |
| mfisch | when is the design? | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | but it's opposite now. So we have to deal with that | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | Tuesday. | 15:17 |
| mfisch | thursday? | 15:17 |
| mfisch | everything is on Tuesday | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | anything else about Summit ? | 15:17 |
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| EmilienM | I suggest you to learn bowling until next week. | 15:17 |
| mfisch | lol | 15:18 |
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| EmilienM | let's move on | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | #topic puppet-group in Stackalytics | 15:18 |
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| EmilienM | mfisch: go ahead | 15:18 |
| mfisch | ok | 15:18 |
| mfisch | thanks | 15:18 |
| mfisch | so we used to use puppet-group in stackalytics to see all our contribs | 15:18 |
| mfisch | it amalgamated all the puppet modules | 15:18 |
| mfisch | now, not only is it missing modules, but there's an official puppet grouping already | 15:19 |
| mfisch | so I'd like to remove it | 15:19 |
| mfisch | rather than keeping it up to date | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: do you mean infra modules? | 15:20 |
| mfisch | no, let me find it | 15:20 |
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| EmilienM | we have http://stackalytics.com/?module=puppetopenstack-group | 15:20 |
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| mfisch | yes thats it | 15:20 |
| mfisch | project type - openstack | 15:20 |
| mfisch | module PuppetOpenStack official | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | w00t nice | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | I did not know we were in OpenStack yet | 15:21 |
| mfisch | so lets remove the other one | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | oh it's not removed? | 15:21 |
| mfisch | no thats what I'm asking | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: +1 | 15:21 |
| mfisch | puppet-group is still there, would like to remove | 15:21 |
| mfisch | ok | 15:21 |
| mfisch | I'll add you guys to the review | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | #action mfisch to cleanup http://stackalytics.com Puppet groups | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: thanks for that | 15:22 |
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| EmilienM | let's move on | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | #topic msync-configs workflow | 15:22 |
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| EmilienM | sbadia, spredzy: o/ | 15:22 |
| spredzy | so the idea was to automatically generate msync review once a msync path has been merged | 15:23 |
| spredzy | in a post-merge hook fashion so every change will be enforce automatically | 15:23 |
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| EmilienM | and reviewers will use the usual workflow to review them, right? | 15:23 |
| spredzy | yes | 15:23 |
| Hunner | ooo interesting | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: can you give us the use cases ? | 15:23 |
| spredzy | the hook will just submit the review | 15:23 |
| sbadia | the default config is now updated, but under review (thx martin) | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | (I'm doing the innocent guy) | 15:24 |
| spredzy | EmilienM, imagine you change the version of rspec-puppet in the mysnc repo and the change is merged | 15:24 |
| sbadia | but I've potentially a problem (the push part use a gerrit account) and if we push from a gerrit job, we have an account for that ? | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: that's something that will help to improve consistency in our modules, indeed | 15:24 |
| spredzy | then it will automatically submit a review for each project within the msync umbrella | 15:24 |
| crinkle | i think it should be done manually a couple of times to see if there are any kinks with modulesync and gerrit | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | sbadia: os infra does | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: good poing | 15:25 |
| spredzy | gerrit-bot I think' | 15:25 |
| sbadia | s/gerrit/jenkins | 15:25 |
| sbadia | ok | 15:25 |
| spredzy | or something similar | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | spredzy, sbadia: let's start manually first | 15:25 |
| mfisch | sounds like an interesting idea | 15:25 |
| sbadia | crinkle: +1 | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | see how it behaves | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | and like crinkle suggests, wait a bit | 15:25 |
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| spredzy | ok for men | 15:26 |
| spredzy | me* | 15:26 |
| sbadia | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177959/ | 15:26 |
| EmilienM | sbadia, spredzy: I guess you guys already have your plan to make it | 15:26 |
| sbadia | 0:-) | 15:26 |
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| EmilienM | I like it | 15:26 |
| spredzy | #action spredzy sbadia work on the mysnc automatization | 15:26 |
| EmilienM | sbadia, spredzy: anything else we can help? | 15:27 |
| spredzy | all good for me so far if any help i will ask | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: cool | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | let's move on | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | #topic puppet-oslo vs puppet-openstacklib | 15:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "puppet-oslo vs puppet-openstacklib (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:28 | |
| EmilienM | so I ran this thread on the ML | 15:28 |
| EmilienM | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-May/063587.html | 15:28 |
| EmilienM | some good thoughts came up | 15:28 |
| EmilienM | and there is one about creating puppet-openstackclient to move all the provider things inside that one | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | and have puppet-oslo for Oslo things (messaging, logging, etc) | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | OR | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | keep everything in openstacklib | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | my personal opinion is I would prefer having puppet-oslo, since it's really tight to OpenStack itself | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | ie: releases | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | while openstacklib is more a lib to manage common resources (database, queue, etc) | 15:30 |
| EmilienM | mfisch, mgagne crinkle: you were in the thread/discussion, feel free to bring up your thoughts | 15:31 |
| crinkle | i think my thoughts are well said in the thread | 15:31 |
| crinkle | i was against puppet-oslo but mgagne brought up an interesting point | 15:31 |
| crinkle | so now i'm +0 either way | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | I don't know if puppet-openstacklib version-agnostic is important to have | 15:32 |
| mgagne | there is a lot of oslo modules and each have its version. we will have to deal with it | 15:32 |
| mgagne | oslo messaging section name is a good example | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | mgagne: are they close to OpenStack release ? | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | I think yes | 15:33 |
| mgagne | EmilienM: yes and no | 15:33 |
| mgagne | EmilienM: afaik, releases aren't sync with openstack | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | well, I see stable/kilo | 15:34 |
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| EmilienM | but I also see tags | 15:34 |
| mgagne | true, I think they used to not create stable branches | 15:34 |
| mgagne | not use about the intention from now on | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | mgagne: so you in favor of puppet-oslo ? | 15:35 |
| EmilienM | also creating a puppet-openstackclient module | 15:36 |
| mgagne | EmilienM: I don't have strong opinion yet because whatever we come up with, we will have to deal with all those oslo versions and their differences | 15:36 |
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| mgagne | and we don't have a plan yet | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | mgagne: if the goal here is to bring consistency across all our modules, we can use openstacklib | 15:37 |
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| mgagne | I wouldn't mind unless we really wish to make it clear that openstacklib is for our module and oslo is for oslo specific stuff | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | I'm just scared openstacklib is the repo where we put all common things, while we still need to make differentiation sometimes | 15:37 |
| mgagne | yep | 15:38 |
| mgagne | that ^ | 15:38 |
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| mmagr | I like the separate openstackclient module, it's seems more clean to me | 15:38 |
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| EmilienM | anyone against having openstackclient and oslo modules ? | 15:38 |
| mfisch | not me | 15:39 |
| EmilienM | mgagne, crinkle: are we fine? | 15:39 |
| mgagne | I'm ok with it | 15:39 |
| mgagne | I think we have to think about how/why we wish to have those modules | 15:39 |
| crinkle | i'm fine with it | 15:39 |
| mgagne | and how we plan on facing the challenges I mentionned | 15:39 |
| EmilienM | mgagne: big +1 | 15:39 |
| EmilienM | mgagne: do you want to take a slot for next week meetings? | 15:40 |
| mgagne | it's summit | 15:40 |
| EmilienM | I'm talking about summit | 15:40 |
| EmilienM | mgagne: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-summit-design-puppet | 15:40 |
| EmilienM | maybe it's something we can investigate further IRL | 15:41 |
| mgagne | I haven't figured out my schedule yet, we shall see | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | mgagne: kk | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM create puppet-oslo & puppet-openstackclient modules | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | agenda is finished | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | #topic open discussion | 15:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:42 | |
| EmilienM | if anyone here wants to bring up a blueprint, a patch, a bug, a topic | 15:42 |
| EmilienM | go ahead now! | 15:42 |
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| EmilienM | richm: is everything moving on for Keystone v3 ? | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | do we have any blocker this week ? | 15:44 |
| richm | EmilienM: not really - gildub decided we needed to redesign provider authentication first | 15:44 |
| richm | so now all of the v3 work is on hold until gildub finishes that | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | richm: ok | 15:45 |
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| EmilienM | seems like we are done | 15:46 |
| Hunner | See you all irl next week :) | 15:47 |
| EmilienM | I'm looking forward to see you guys! | 15:47 |
| spredzy | cya next week | 15:47 |
| EmilienM | I'm closing the meeting | 15:47 |
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| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 15:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:47 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 12 15:47:52 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-05-12-15.00.html | 15:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-05-12-15.00.txt | 15:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-05-12-15.00.log.html | 15:47 |
| crinkle | o/ | 15:48 |
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| sbadia | thanks | 15:48 |
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