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| nikhil_k | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, esheffield, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, ivasilevskaya, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, zhiyan, pkoniszewski, krykowski, ajayaa | 13:59 |
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| nikhil_k | #startmeeting Glance | 13:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 23 13:59:34 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil_k. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 13:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 13:59 |
| kragniz | o/ | 13:59 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 13:59 |
| ativelkov | o/ | 13:59 |
| krykowski | o/ | 13:59 |
| ivasilevskaya | o/ | 13:59 |
| bpoulos | o/ | 13:59 |
| lakshmiS | o/ | 13:59 |
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| sigmavirus24_awa | o/ | 13:59 |
| pkoniszewski | o/ | 13:59 |
| nikhil_k | welcome all :) | 14:00 |
| nikhil_k | Short agenda #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
| stevelle | o/ | 14:00 |
| nikhil_k | Let's get started | 14:00 |
| nikhil_k | #topic RC2 | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RC2 (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:00 | |
| nikhil_k | Seems like we are all set for now. Blockers were/are listed at #link https://trello.com/c/CoZ9g13d/45-kilo-rc2 | 14:01 |
| nikhil_k | Reviews were given and RC2 is about to be cut | 14:01 |
| nikhil_k | Any last minute red flags? | 14:02 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:02 |
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| lakshmiS | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169813/ and https://review.openstack.org/171022 are still failing on gate. recheck going on... | 14:02 |
| nikhil_k | thanks | 14:02 |
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| nikhil_k | We would basically use the older reviews and ninja approve if needed | 14:03 |
| nikhil_k | trying to avoid any delays. Some of them need to be backported | 14:03 |
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| nikhil_k | yosamite just crashed | 14:05 |
| nikhil_k | Backports would be done by rel-mgrs so no need to worry about them for now | 14:06 |
| nikhil_k | Sometimes if there are bunch of conflicts then it is recommended for the authors to do them | 14:06 |
| jokke_ | backport for what? | 14:06 |
| nikhil_k | Those reviews that are target for RC2 | 14:07 |
| nikhil_k | and currently proposed against master | 14:07 |
| jokke_ | ah you mean the picks for stable/kilo branch, thanks got it | 14:07 |
| nikhil_k | yeah | 14:07 |
| nikhil_k | This one was brought to my attn a couple days back #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176411/ | 14:07 |
| nikhil_k | It seems unlikely to make it | 14:08 |
| nikhil_k | So, let's roll that over to Liberty if there are no objections | 14:08 |
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| nikhil_k | Moving on.. | 14:09 |
| nikhil_k | #topic Gate failure blocking reviews | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate failure blocking reviews (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:09 | |
| nikhil_k | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1447463 | 14:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1447463 in Glance "glance.tests.functional.v2.test_images.TestImages.test_download_random_access failed" [Critical,New] | 14:09 |
| pkoniszewski | so we have small problem there, everything will keep failing | 14:09 |
| pkoniszewski | I'm working with krykowski but we haven't found where the problem is yet | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | pkoniszewski: Just kind reminder ... if you bump bug criticality, please make sure that you set it at least confirmed as well then | 14:10 |
| nikhil_k | Cool, let's keep syncing on #openstack-glance to speden up unblocking | 14:11 |
| pkoniszewski | jokke_: i just wanted to bring more attention, everything with +2 is blocked and RC2 is near | 14:11 |
| mclaren | I'm happy to take a look aswell | 14:11 |
| pkoniszewski | thanks for any help! | 14:11 |
| mclaren | (although stuck in a few meetings this afternoon :-/) | 14:11 |
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| jokke_ | pkoniszewski: that's fine, personally I just think we do not have critical bug if no-one can verify that the fault exists | 14:11 |
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| jokke_ | so the person marking the priority should at least verify that the bug is valid and indeed causing the issue | 14:12 |
| mfedosin | I'm going to look there too | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | pkoniszewski: not for you only, that's for everyone | 14:12 |
| nikhil_k | yeah, it would be okay to mark it confirmed by the reporter if the verification is done on the automation system like jenkins. So, please paste a link to the review and the console logs where you see the failure and mark it confirmed | 14:12 |
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| nikhil_k | Ok, moving on.. | 14:13 |
| nikhil_k | #optic py-client 0.17.1 | 14:14 |
| nikhil_k | #topic py-client 0.17.1 | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "py-client 0.17.1 (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:14 | |
| nikhil_k | #link https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-glanceclient/0.17.1 | 14:15 |
| mclaren | thanks Nikhil. | 14:15 |
| nikhil_k | That was released yday to get it included in RC2. We are hoping that it does not break any other package and then include it | 14:15 |
| mfedosin | Is going to be in global requirements? | 14:15 |
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| nikhil_k | ^ | 14:16 |
| mclaren | Should I mark my stable global-requirements patch not-WIP now? | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | mfedosin: nope | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | Doug -2'd it already | 14:16 |
| nikhil_k | mclaren: I think that would be good to do it from your side (if not already) | 14:16 |
| mfedosin | jokke_, oh... why? | 14:16 |
| nikhil_k | The same reason as above | 14:16 |
| nikhil_k | We are hoping that it does not break any other package and then include it | 14:17 |
| nikhil_k | There have been some issues with libraries breaking packages recently | 14:17 |
| jokke_ | mfedosin: apparently the risk breaking something by touching the requirements at the moment is too high to wait that the projects gets it rolled in before cutting RC23 | 14:17 |
| jokke_ | -21 ;) | 14:17 |
| nikhil_k | and folks have worked hard to get things to a stable state. Once everything looks good Thiery is going to decide. | 14:18 |
| nikhil_k | Any other questions? | 14:18 |
| mclaren | So should I wait until Doug removes the -2 before doing anything? | 14:18 |
| jokke_ | mclaren: I think you can lift your wip so you won't be blocking it when the time comes to merge it | 14:19 |
| nikhil_k | == jokke_ | 14:19 |
| mclaren | Ok, I'll do that. | 14:19 |
| nikhil_k | Thanks. | 14:19 |
| mclaren | Can you clarify when it's likely to merge? ie before kilo? | 14:19 |
| nikhil_k | yes | 14:19 |
| mclaren | or after? | 14:19 |
| mclaren | before, ok | 14:19 |
| mclaren | thanks | 14:19 |
| nikhil_k | if things go all good, we will have it in RC2 | 14:19 |
| nikhil_k | We are working on probabilities though | 14:20 |
| nikhil_k | and it looks ~1 atm | 14:20 |
| nikhil_k | #topic Swift driver: 401 issue in ChunkReader | 14:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Swift driver: 401 issue in ChunkReader (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:21 | |
| mfedosin | Hi again, folks, I want to discuss with you a known issue with uploading big files (>5 Gb) to Swift. | 14:21 |
| mfedosin | As you know glance_store driver has its own implementation of big files chunking. | 14:21 |
| mfedosin | https://github.com/openstack/glance_store/blob/master/glance_store/_drivers/swift/store.py#L503 | 14:22 |
| mfedosin | The problem is Keystone token may expire during the uploading and when we want to put another chunk to Swift we get 401 response. | 14:22 |
| mfedosin | And it's a serious headache for our customers who can't store big images there. | 14:22 |
| mfedosin | I'm not so familiar with Swift. So, may I ask you, what was the point of having our own implementation of Swift Large Objects and why we just can't use SLO directly? | 14:23 |
| mclaren | Can I answer a question with a question? | 14:23 |
| mclaren | Is there a reason SLO will help here? | 14:23 |
| mfedosin | I think yes, as far as I understand SLO | 14:24 |
| ativelkov | mclaren: well, in this case you will have a single call to swift | 14:24 |
| mclaren | ah, I see | 14:25 |
| ativelkov | the problem, as far as I can see, is the token expiring at some n-th iteration of the chunk reader | 14:25 |
| mfedosin | and chunking will perform via Swift tools, not Glance's | 14:25 |
| mclaren | So we use static large objects currently | 14:25 |
| mclaren | oops, we use dymanic large objects currently | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | at least by documentation it's multiple calls to swoft | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | swift even | 14:26 |
| ativelkov | we may either fix it by re-connecting to swift on every chunk (which is a bit ugly), or make a single call and let the swift do the cunking for us | 14:26 |
| mclaren | is your proposal to switch to static large objects? | 14:26 |
| mclaren | Actually, let me talk to some Swift folks so I can comment more intelligently on this :-) | 14:27 |
| sigmavirus24_awa | Half-serious question: "Why not both?" (and allow operators to configure it as they need) | 14:27 |
| sigmavirus24_awa | mclaren: can you loop me into thos? | 14:27 |
| sigmavirus24_awa | *those discussions? | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | I also think some deployers might have disagreement on the swiftclient SLO functionality and it's bandwidth utilization: | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | This would split the large_file into 1G segments and begin uploading those segments in parallel. Once all the segments have been uploaded, swift will then create the manifest file so the segments can be downloaded as one. | 14:27 |
| mclaren | sigmavirus24_awa: I can give you a summary (I'll be talking to the guy beside me :-)) | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | ^^ that is from swift docs | 14:27 |
| sigmavirus24_awa | mclaren: hah | 14:28 |
| mclaren | I know the token expiration issue has been around for a while, so removing it would be more excellent | 14:28 |
| mclaren | more/most | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | ++ | 14:29 |
| ativelkov | The token expiration will still remain an issue at v1 | 14:29 |
| mclaren | ativelkov: mfedosin this is with the multi-tenant store? | 14:29 |
| nikhil_k | followed by intelligent use of user token to save image in the DB ;) | 14:29 |
| ativelkov | nikhil_k: yes, that's what I mean by v1: we still need the token to do the call to registry to change the state | 14:29 |
| mfedosin | it doesn't matter, single and multi use the same 'add' | 14:29 |
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| ativelkov | mclaren: afaik that is single in our cases | 14:30 |
| ativelkov | but multi-tenant will have the same issue | 14:30 |
| mclaren | but the single-tenant store can just request a new token? (I'm missing something -- sorry) | 14:30 |
| nikhil_k | he wants to avoid that retry | 14:30 |
| mfedosin | mclaren, yes, in single case it's easy to fix | 14:30 |
| nikhil_k | at specified intervals | 14:30 |
| ativelkov | mclaren: yes, it can, but it does not do it, as it establishes a single connection for all the chunks and then reuses it | 14:30 |
| mclaren | ok, thanks | 14:31 |
| ativelkov | https://github.com/openstack/glance_store/blob/master/glance_store/_drivers/swift/store.py#L490 | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | that should be fairly easy to fix for single tenant then? | 14:31 |
| ativelkov | here, it makes a connection and then uses it for all the chunks at line 526 | 14:32 |
| ativelkov | 536* | 14:32 |
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| ativelkov | yes, it should be | 14:32 |
| ativelkov | for multi-tenant the problem is harder to fix, but we may try to refresh the token on every iteration | 14:33 |
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| mfedosin | But why we just can't send big object there and remove code in 'else' part? https://github.com/openstack/glance_store/blob/master/glance_store/_drivers/swift/store.py#L503 | 14:33 |
| nikhil_k | ativelkov: mfedosin propose a spec? | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | mfedosin: so we ignore the swift object size limit and let swift reject them? | 14:35 |
| mfedosin | swift won't reject them | 14:35 |
| ativelkov | jokke_: why will it reject them if SLO is enabled? | 14:35 |
| mfedosin | we uploaded files via swift client with 150G size and everything was fine | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/overview_large_objects.html | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | it seems to be the client doing the splitting | 14:36 |
| mclaren | ativelkov: 'we may try to refresh the token on every iteration' - interesting - how? | 14:36 |
| nikhil_k | need some logic in glance for that | 14:37 |
| nikhil_k | server | 14:37 |
| mfedosin | mclaren, keystone supports this feature | 14:37 |
| mclaren | are trusts helpful here in any way? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Keystone/Trusts | 14:37 |
| ativelkov | mclaren: keystone's authenticate API call may use existing (non-expired) token to issue a new one | 14:38 |
| mfedosin | no, trust won't help, but refreshing the token is a good solution | 14:38 |
| ativelkov | http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-identity-v2.html#authenticate-v2.0 | 14:38 |
| mclaren | ativelkov: I didn't know that! Do both tokens continue to be valid? | 14:38 |
| ativelkov | mclaren: that's the question. May be, may be not | 14:39 |
| mclaren | Ok, now I need to talk to some keystone folks too :-) | 14:39 |
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| ativelkov | my keystone guys says it should bot expire | 14:41 |
| ativelkov | should not | 14:41 |
| mclaren | ok, that sounds very promising | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | hmm-m ... did I get this right ... we can request a new token that is valid over the current tokens validity with the curren token? | 14:41 |
| ativelkov | mfedosin: trusts may help as well, but that's a bit an overkill | 14:41 |
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| nikhil_k | there's some overlap | 14:42 |
| nikhil_k | I think one hour | 14:42 |
| dstanek | jokke_: i don't think that we can do that - i think you can only rescope a token within the same expires | 14:42 |
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| nikhil_k | Ok, we need to get moving here.. | 14:42 |
| mclaren | hmm, ok, I'll try to get a second opinion from keystone | 14:43 |
| nikhil_k | Let's create a spec/etherpad/session proposal or soemthing and let's discuss there. | 14:43 |
| mfedosin | mclaren, thanks, it'll be good | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | dstanek: I would expect so ... if not the expiry is pretty much pointless ... but yeah I think the trust approach would be the correct one as it's designed for these use cases | 14:43 |
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| nikhil_k | #topic Open Discussion | 14:44 |
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| nikhil_k | Any thing that needs urgent attendion? (and was not on the agenda) | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | Again shout for people to put summit topics in! | 14:45 |
| nikhil_k | If not, please take a look at the current proposals.. | 14:45 |
| nikhil_k | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-glance-summit-topics | 14:45 |
| mclaren | not urgent but couple of stable branch reviews https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/glance+branch:stable/kilo+status:open,n,z | 14:46 |
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| nikhil_k | thanks mclaren , those seem important | 14:47 |
| nikhil_k | About the topics, I would encourage everyone to consider something they want discussed as the topic and that way we can prioritize the cycle better | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | I don't think this bug was in RC https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1445827 | 14:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1445827 in Glance "unit test failures: Glance insist on ordereddict" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Stuart McLaren (stuart-mclaren) | 14:48 |
| mclaren | I think v2 nova support is probably important, but does it warrant a session? | 14:48 |
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| nikhil_k | It should not be the case that only a spec is proposed and there are ton of other things lined up, even for an important discussion. | 14:49 |
| stevelle | mclaren: I hadn't expected it would need a session | 14:49 |
| nikhil_k | mclaren: Nova usually have one session that deals with images modules | 14:49 |
| nikhil_k | we can discuss it there if needed but I think we covered the base (pretty much) in the mid-cycle | 14:50 |
| mclaren | sure | 14:50 |
| nikhil_k | thanks jokke_ | 14:50 |
| nikhil_k | We shall plan to have a priority impromptu meeting sometime the week after next | 14:51 |
| nikhil_k | and in the week prior to the summit, we should plan to have a video call | 14:51 |
| nikhil_k | Details to be sent out soon | 14:51 |
| nikhil_k | Once rc2 is cleared and things look stable) | 14:52 |
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| nikhil_k | So, again request for session proposals. Please add an entry for something that you need to be discussed and should be on the roadmap for Liberty | 14:53 |
| nikhil_k | #info Please add an entry for something that you need to be discussed and should be on the roadmap for Liberty. | 14:53 |
| nikhil_k | If nothing else ... | 14:54 |
| nikhil_k | Thanks all! | 14:54 |
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| nikhil_k | #endmeeting | 14:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 23 14:55:00 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-04-23-13.59.html | 14:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-04-23-13.59.txt | 14:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-04-23-13.59.log.html | 14:55 |
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| kragniz | thanks | 14:55 |
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| cloudnull | Hi | 16:02 |
| stevelle | helllos | 16:02 |
| palendae | Hi | 16:03 |
| b3rnard0 | hello | 16:03 |
| b3rnard0 | #startmeeting OpenStack Ansible Meeting | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 23 16:03:56 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is b3rnard0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible_meeting' | 16:04 |
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| b3rnard0 | #chair cloudnull | 16:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b3rnard0 cloudnull | 16:04 |
| b3rnard0 | #topic Agenda & rollcall | 16:04 |
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| palendae | hi | 16:04 |
| b3rnard0 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 16:04 |
| cloudnull | o/ | 16:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | howdy | 16:04 |
| sigmavirus24_awa | o/ | 16:05 |
| mattt | howdy | 16:05 |
| d34dh0r53 | o/ | 16:06 |
| b3rnard0 | presente | 16:06 |
| b3rnard0 | we have no action items from last week. do we want to dive into blueprints? | 16:07 |
| cloudnull | lets wait a min more. | 16:07 |
| cloudnull | for people to join in | 16:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think people melted | 16:09 |
| cloudnull | ok. so lets go. | 16:09 |
| b3rnard0 | #topic Blueprints | 16:09 |
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| cloudnull | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/build-facts-archive | 16:10 |
| cloudnull | ^ is jwagner around ? | 16:10 |
| jwagner | here | 16:10 |
| b3rnard0 | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/build-facts-archive | 16:10 |
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| jwagner | never doen one of these meeting so... | 16:10 |
| jwagner | do i just explain it? | 16:10 |
| jwagner | done* | 16:10 |
| palendae | I think that's a valuable addition. I would like to see maybe a little more detail about where that info is stored | 16:11 |
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| b3rnard0 | jwagner: walk us through it briefly | 16:11 |
| jwagner | i was imagining on the deployment host under /opt or something in a dir stucture of /opt/osad-archive/{hostname}/[archived-bits] | 16:12 |
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| jwagner | then tar it up | 16:12 |
| jwagner | etc | 16:12 |
| palendae | jwagner: So a set of yaml files? | 16:12 |
| palendae | Or a text dump of facter's info? | 16:12 |
| d34dh0r53 | I think most of this is available via ansible facts, which can be run once and you'll get a report of all hosts in the inventory. | 16:13 |
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| jwagner | d34dh0r53 yes that is probably how we could get most of this info | 16:14 |
| palendae | I know there have been requests to get this information into a database for deployer support personnel | 16:14 |
| jwagner | my man concern and need was the ability to parse all this info and grab bits and pieces that we need to report bugs in a more readable and accessable fashion to you guys | 16:14 |
| jwagner | also to be able to aggregate the tempest test results up to jenkins | 16:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | when you say things like 'cinder config' do you mean the host-level stuff, the openstack config, or the actual volumes/usage/etc ? | 16:15 |
| jwagner | currently I cannot get to the results due to the fact that our ansible plays has no info about the inventory so getting to the utility container that has the xml from the tempest run is pretty janky | 16:15 |
| cloudnull | jwagner can you reformat/submit the spec this the spec repo using this template https://github.com/stackforge/os-ansible-deployment-specs/blob/master/specs/template.rst | 16:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | some of this stuff is facts, but some of it is the result of slurping config files or API calls | 16:15 |
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| jwagner | cloudnull can do | 16:16 |
| cloudnull | tyvm | 16:17 |
| b3rnard0 | #action jwagner -- can you reformat/submit the spec this the spec repo using this template https://github.com/stackforge/os-ansible-deployment-specs/blob/master/specs/template.rst | 16:18 |
| b3rnard0 | okay, any other blueprints for discussion? | 16:19 |
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| sigmavirus24_awa | palendae's blueprint? | 16:20 |
| alextrcitiy | Can you guys check out the ceilometer bp spec when you get the chance? | 16:20 |
| alextrcitiy | It's not approved yet | 16:20 |
| cloudnull | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169417/ | 16:20 |
| cloudnull | alextrcitiy my only issue with that spec is that we've not defined how testing will be done with mongo. | 16:21 |
| palendae | I know we touched on this in past meetings | 16:21 |
| palendae | Something like we were going to install Mongo as part of the gating? | 16:22 |
| cloudnull | i think that if we deploy mongo via a gate script for the test case im happy. if we bring mongo as a role in im dubious. | 16:22 |
| alextrcitiy | cloudnull: That's right. Are you looking for more description in the testing section? | 16:22 |
| cloudnull | i am | 16:22 |
| alextrcitiy | Okay sounds good | 16:22 |
| palendae | cloudnull: Do you mean bring in an ansible galaxy role to do mongo gating? | 16:22 |
| palendae | Or via bash? | 16:22 |
| palendae | Or do you not care as long as it's not a role that gets installed everywhere | 16:22 |
| cloudnull | either or, i just dont want the external role to be brought into the system. | 16:23 |
| cloudnull | which will only create confusion when people look to deploy ceilometer. | 16:23 |
| palendae | Right | 16:23 |
| palendae | So, are you against including any galaxy roles in our install then? | 16:24 |
| cloudnull | if we do bring in mongo as a role we support then it needs to be scalable. | 16:24 |
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| palendae | If so, we need to look at modifying the bootstrap ansible role to take that out | 16:24 |
| palendae | And move it to a deployer-level solution | 16:24 |
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| palendae | bootstrap ansible script* | 16:24 |
| cloudnull | +1 | 16:25 |
| cloudnull | but in terms of the spec for ceilometer the only thing im concerned with is how is it tested. | 16:26 |
| palendae | Ok | 16:26 |
| alextrcitiy | Gotcha | 16:26 |
| cloudnull | so if we can get a test case into the spec im +2 | 16:26 |
| andymccr | you "can" deploy ceilometer with mysql though right? | 16:27 |
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| andymccr | i mean i know its not great in prod but for testing purposes/gating etc? | 16:27 |
| cloudnull | andymccr you "can" but it wont work in horizon . | 16:27 |
| andymccr | oh ok so no go even just for testing? :( | 16:27 |
| mattt | andymccr: guess we'd need to test the whole mariadb installation mechanism in the gate to ensure that code path works | 16:27 |
| palendae | Are we testing it in horizon? | 16:28 |
| mattt | *mongodb | 16:28 |
| cloudnull | they have a "raise exception" on all things meta query | 16:28 |
| cloudnull | and meta query is only supported when using mongo | 16:28 |
| cloudnull | i'd have to look at what tempest tests in terms of ceilometer, but if it calls something that does a meta query it would be a no go. | 16:29 |
| palendae | Does horizon have integration tests to ceilometer taht we should exercise? | 16:29 |
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| mattt | doesn't look it palendae | 16:30 |
| cloudnull | palendae no, but if it was deployed for testing using the AIO and wanted to see it working or tool around with it we'd run into problems. | 16:30 |
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| cloudnull | its also a completely different code path/driver within ceilometer. | 16:30 |
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| d34dh0r53 | ^ makes me think that testing w/ mysql would not be a valid test | 16:31 |
| palendae | Right | 16:31 |
| andymccr | but thats a difference between testing that ceilometer deployed and testing ceilometer itself right? | 16:32 |
| andymccr | like surely its ceilometers job to test the codepath with mongo | 16:32 |
| cloudnull | we could get it in using mysql, it would just not be wants really used with its deployed; should someone choose to deploy it in prod. which is kinda against what / how we've tested all of the other openstacky things . | 16:32 |
| andymccr | i agree with that, im just thinking if mongo getting in is a harder task as a first step it isnt a bad one, but its a non-event if the tests wont ever pass based on the meta query issue. | 16:33 |
| cloudnull | but for the purpose of the spec it might be ok. | 16:33 |
| palendae | It's close to how we've tested networking - neutron doesn't cover tests with the linuxbridge code path right now | 16:33 |
| palendae | At least not in scenarios | 16:33 |
| cloudnull | palendae thats true but we're exercising it using other scenarios . | 16:33 |
| alextrcitiy | I think i'll just make a gate script that deploys a simple mongodb server with ceilometer. Then use that mongo server to test ceilometer | 16:33 |
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| palendae | Yes | 16:34 |
| stevelle | that simple gate script could use the galaxy role previously identified. | 16:34 |
| cloudnull | ^ that im good with | 16:34 |
| alextrcitiy | Cool. I'll add that to the bp | 16:34 |
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| cloudnull | thanks alextrcitiy | 16:36 |
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| cloudnull | Sam-I-Am palendae https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173155/ | 16:36 |
| palendae | Yeah, I need to update that with suggestions people have made | 16:36 |
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| palendae | I do have some CRs related to it, but I'd like to do those slowly - first get in the directory with the sphinx config/make file, then build on that | 16:37 |
| cloudnull | +1 | 16:37 |
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| palendae | I have a first draft of a playbooks overview, too | 16:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | palendae: wooo docs | 16:39 |
| palendae | So, not really much to add to that right now | 16:39 |
| palendae | Sam-I-Am: And docs that *we* should be writing | 16:39 |
| palendae | Not "here's code write about it" | 16:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah. there will be some discussion about this on tuesday i think. | 16:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | part of the overall "how do we get all the docs upstream" | 16:40 |
| palendae | My goal with this is not all the docs, btw | 16:40 |
| cloudnull | nice | 16:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | palendae: er? | 16:40 |
| palendae | But mostly for someone contributing to osad to get up to speed | 16:40 |
| palendae | This specific BP | 16:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | yes | 16:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | but docs people might be touching this stuff | 16:41 |
| palendae | There's still room for deployer docs | 16:41 |
| palendae | Yes, true | 16:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | diagrams, after all :) | 16:41 |
| cloudnull | https://github.com/stackforge/os-ansible-deployment/blob/master/development-stack.rst#diagram-of-stack < best diagram ever! | 16:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | cloudnull: until i make it better :) | 16:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | needs more emoji | 16:42 |
| Apsu | That's a fantastic diagram. | 16:42 |
| cloudnull | So i think that we can close out on this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168976/ as it is | 16:42 |
| Apsu | Needs some libaa or libcaca to render it | 16:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | cloudnull: close out? | 16:43 |
| cloudnull | the policy copy mechanism is in place and we can build on that to make that spec more supported / capable. | 16:43 |
| palendae | +1 | 16:43 |
| palendae | Superseded | 16:43 |
| cloudnull | ^ that one. | 16:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | ahh | 16:43 |
| palendae | Policy copying done, what we need next is ini updating | 16:43 |
| cloudnull | yup | 16:44 |
| cloudnull | we should look at creating a new spec for that extension . | 16:44 |
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| cloudnull | ok, well ill do that . | 16:45 |
| cloudnull | #action item cloudnull create a new spec to extend copy_update module. | 16:45 |
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| cloudnull | #topic Open discussion | 16:46 |
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| cloudnull | open up the festivus ! | 16:46 |
| palendae | Does anyone know if our gate job has to inlcude 'dsvm' in it? | 16:47 |
| cloudnull | http://festivusweb.com/images/seinfeld-festivusjpg.jpg | 16:47 |
| palendae | os-ansible-deployment-dsvm-check-commit | 16:47 |
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| cloudnull | palendae no, we could take the name out i think | 16:47 |
| palendae | From what I gather | 16:47 |
| palendae | dsvm is DevStack VM | 16:47 |
| palendae | Which is inaccurate in our case | 16:47 |
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| sigmavirus24_awa | the idea is the same though (an AIO with core services in it) | 16:48 |
| palendae | Right | 16:48 |
| cloudnull | thats something we can update/change in project config | 16:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | we should just use devstack | 16:48 |
| palendae | It's just not devstack | 16:48 |
| sigmavirus24_awa | ==Sam-I-Am | 16:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | then everything would work | 16:48 |
| palendae | cloudnull: Yeah, I wanted to ask before I put a PR in for that | 16:48 |
| cloudnull | # /kick Sam-I-Am | 16:48 |
| cloudnull | :) | 16:48 |
| * Sam-I-Am feels loved | 16:48 | |
| palendae | We are doing the same thing, but it's not devstack (nor a VM, I don't think), so it's misleading | 16:49 |
| cloudnull | palendae that should be fine | 16:49 |
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| cloudnull | you want to go bang that out ? | 16:49 |
| palendae | Yeah | 16:49 |
| sigmavirus24 | palendae: you go and bug infra about it | 16:49 |
| palendae | sigmavirus24: I will | 16:49 |
| cloudnull | #action palendae to fix our gating name. | 16:49 |
| cloudnull | who wants the fetivus pole next ? | 16:50 |
| cloudnull | Bjoern__ where you be ? | 16:50 |
| cloudnull | :) | 16:50 |
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| cloudnull | so are we done here? | 16:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | perhaps | 16:52 |
| cloudnull | i think so :) | 16:52 |
| b3rnard0 | kill it | 16:52 |
| cloudnull | #endmeeting | 16:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:52 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 23 16:52:19 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-04-23-16.03.html | 16:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-04-23-16.03.txt | 16:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-04-23-16.03.log.html | 16:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | later y'all | 16:52 |
| cloudnull | Thanks everyone ! | 16:52 |
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| BjoernT | cloudnull: what's up | 16:53 |
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