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krtaylor | #startmeeting third-party | 15:01 |
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openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 18 15:01:00 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is krtaylor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:01 |
krtaylor | Hi everyone | 15:01 |
patrickeast | hey | 15:01 |
ja_ | moin moin | 15:01 |
mmedvede | hi | 15:01 |
omrim | Hello | 15:01 |
krtaylor | time for another Third Party CI WG meeting | 15:01 |
lennyb | hi | 15:02 |
lennyb | hi | 15:02 |
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krtaylor | looks like we have a good group today | 15:02 |
rfolco | o/ | 15:02 |
krtaylor | here is the agenda: | 15:03 |
krtaylor | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty#2.2F18.2F15_1500_UTC | 15:03 |
krtaylor | #topic Announcements | 15:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:03 | |
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asselin_ | hi | 15:04 |
krtaylor | I'll start off by reminding everyone of gerrit being upgraded March 21st | 15:04 |
krtaylor | hi asselin | 15:04 |
ja_ | what is the "impact" of the upgrade to users? | 15:05 |
asselin_ | ja_, for those with firewalls blocking the port, it means firewall updates | 15:05 |
krtaylor | ja_, really only if your CI system needs some kind of firewall egress configuration | 15:05 |
ja_ | ok thx | 15:05 |
krtaylor | asselin beat me to it | 15:05 |
krtaylor | ok, any other quick announcements before we move on? | 15:06 |
krtaylor | #topic Third-party CI documentation | 15:07 |
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krtaylor | ok, so we still have some work to do here, especially in running-your-own | 15:07 |
krtaylor | and I am thinking that it is slowed due to the need to walk through it | 15:08 |
krtaylor | we have some patches, which reminds me | 15:09 |
krtaylor | rfolco, can you change your topic to 'third-party-ci-documentation' on your patch | 15:09 |
krtaylor | that is for everyone - so we can track all with one query | 15:10 |
krtaylor | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:third-party-ci-documentation,n,z | 15:10 |
rfolco | kragniz, summary line ? | 15:10 |
rfolco | krtaylor, ^ | 15:10 |
rfolco | (sorry) | 15:10 |
krtaylor | rfolco, you should have a little writing pad next to Topic in the upper left of your patch review | 15:11 |
krtaylor | you can edit the topic in gerrit | 15:11 |
rfolco | topic is master, is that one ? | 15:12 |
krtaylor | rfolco, just below Branch | 15:12 |
rfolco | done https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155864/ | 15:13 |
krtaylor | thanks | 15:13 |
krtaylor | lennyb, since you are getting started, any comments on the running-your-own doc would be helpful as well | 15:13 |
krtaylor | ja_, your continued input is appreciated too | 15:14 |
krtaylor | ok, onward | 15:14 |
krtaylor | #topic Spec for in-tree 3rd party ci | 15:15 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Spec for in-tree 3rd party ci (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:15 | |
lennyb | krtaylor, thanks I will try to document | 15:15 |
krtaylor | asselin, you have a new rev on the spec | 15:15 |
asselin_ | so I updated the spec a bit yesterday | 15:15 |
krtaylor | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139745/ | 15:15 |
asselin_ | yes, it is now a 'priority effort' for openstack-infra | 15:15 |
krtaylor | I haven't had a chance to review it yet, will today | 15:16 |
krtaylor | yea! | 15:16 |
asselin_ | yes, very excited about that! :) | 15:16 |
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krtaylor | asselin, it will enable a lot of goodness | 15:17 |
rfolco | asselin, is the refactor a override on infra puppet, a fork or what ? could you please clarify ? | 15:17 |
asselin_ | rfolco, the refactor is to allow the puppet scripts to be more easily reused | 15:18 |
asselin_ | rfolco, there are lots of sections in system-config that are needed, but not easily resuable | 15:19 |
rfolco | I read the spec and I had the impression it was a fork from infra scripts | 15:19 |
asselin_ | that today's solution | 15:20 |
asselin_ | rfolco, could you comment on the specific sections? I will try to clarify | 15:20 |
rfolco | asselin, wil ldo thx | 15:21 |
krtaylor | yes, and just like the puppet module split-out, a great opportunity for third-party WG to get involved and help out | 15:21 |
asselin_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137471/ | 15:21 |
asselin_ | ^^ this is a related spec that will help a lot as well | 15:21 |
krtaylor | any other questions on in-tree ? | 15:23 |
krtaylor | an action for everyone, please go read the spec | 15:23 |
krtaylor | thanks for the overview asselin | 15:24 |
krtaylor | oops asselin_ | 15:24 |
asselin_ | np :) | 15:24 |
krtaylor | ok, next | 15:24 |
krtaylor | #topic Repo for third party tools | 15:24 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Repo for third party tools (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:24 | |
krtaylor | like last week, I am socializing the idea of creating a repo | 15:25 |
krtaylor | a place for ci teams to share their scripts and other goodies that make their job easier | 15:25 |
asselin_ | +1 I like the idea | 15:26 |
krtaylor | if the consensus is that it is a good idea, I'll see about getting that setup | 15:26 |
patrickeast | i like this idea, you thinking a openstack repo or just a public github kind of thing? | 15:26 |
krtaylor | there are several tools available, but unless you know about someone's github account, you don't know they exist | 15:26 |
krtaylor | actually, a stackforge repo | 15:27 |
patrickeast | gotcha | 15:27 |
krtaylor | we'd have to discuss the organization of it, etc | 15:27 |
* krtaylor wonders if we'd need a spec to propose the idea formally | 15:28 | |
patrickeast | that might be a good idea, or at least a wiki page or something to capture what we decide for organization | 15:28 |
krtaylor | well, I haven't found anyone that hated the idea...yet | 15:29 |
asselin_ | A wiki or etherpad might be good to start. | 15:29 |
krtaylor | I know we have tools internally that we could share, scripts, dashboards, etc | 15:29 |
* krtaylor agrees | 15:29 | |
krtaylor | #action krtaylor to set up wiki for third-party CI WG repo, and/or etherpad | 15:30 |
krtaylor | ok, goodness, thanks everyone for the input | 15:31 |
krtaylor | lets move on | 15:31 |
krtaylor | #topic Restart monitoring dashboard effort | 15:31 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Restart monitoring dashboard effort (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:32 | |
krtaylor | sweston, ping? | 15:32 |
krtaylor | there is an effort to have a public monitoring dashboard, basically a new/nicer/more featured radar | 15:32 |
krtaylor | some good comments here: | 15:33 |
krtaylor | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135170/ | 15:33 |
krtaylor | it would replace the need to change status on ThirdPartySystems, at least eventually | 15:34 |
krtaylor | sweston has been swamped with work from his dayjob, but everything is available, just needs input, reviews, ideas to converge | 15:35 |
krtaylor | ok, we can come back to that if time permits, but I want to get to the next bit | 15:36 |
krtaylor | #topic Highlighting Third-Party CI Service | 15:36 |
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krtaylor | continuing on the success of rfolco 's discussion of PowerKVM CI | 15:37 |
krtaylor | this week we have Pure Storage CI | 15:37 |
krtaylor | patrickeast, can you share a brief intro on your system | 15:38 |
patrickeast | yep | 15:38 |
krtaylor | maybe some problems you had and how you solved them | 15:38 |
patrickeast | so, first off i made some stuff to share | 15:38 |
patrickeast | http://ec2-54-67-119-204.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com/ci_stuff.svg | 15:38 |
patrickeast | https://github.com/patrick-east/os-ext-testing-data | 15:38 |
patrickeast | a poorly drawn diagram of our setup | 15:38 |
patrickeast | and what we use for our data repo | 15:39 |
krtaylor | #link http://ec2-54-67-119-204.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com/ci_stuff.svg | 15:39 |
krtaylor | #link https://github.com/patrick-east/os-ext-testing-data | 15:39 |
patrickeast | as of a month (almost 2) ago i have switched our system over to using asselin’s https://github.com/rasselin/os-ext-testing scripts | 15:39 |
krtaylor | nice | 15:40 |
patrickeast | prior to that we had started with the instructions on jay pipes blog post and cobbled together a system without nodepool | 15:40 |
patrickeast | we ran into all kinds of issues with re-using static slaves though | 15:40 |
asselin_ | nice pic | 15:40 |
krtaylor | yep, without nodepool due to setup requirements? | 15:40 |
patrickeast | we went that way originally just due to lack of knowing any better | 15:41 |
krtaylor | ah, ok | 15:41 |
asselin_ | patrickeast, what's "RDO" | 15:42 |
krtaylor | RedHat Repo? | 15:42 |
patrickeast | https://openstack.redhat.com/Main_Page | 15:42 |
patrickeast | its like their open source version of the redhat openstack stuff | 15:42 |
patrickeast | similar to centos vs rhel | 15:42 |
patrickeast | it made it very very easy to get setup with openstack | 15:43 |
patrickeast | so, as you may have noticed on the diagram we have the nice high speed data connections that are currently not used… thats on my list of todo’s | 15:44 |
patrickeast | we are testing our cinder driver | 15:44 |
krtaylor | patrickeast, so I take it you are only testing cinder patches | 15:44 |
patrickeast | correct | 15:44 |
patrickeast | right now we are only listening for openstack/cinder changes on master | 15:44 |
patrickeast | and run the volume api tempest tests | 15:44 |
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patrickeast | we are planning to add a FC cinder driver for our array in L-1 | 15:45 |
patrickeast | so i’ll be adding support for that into the system early in L | 15:45 |
krtaylor | what was a really tricky part that you had to work through? | 15:46 |
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* asselin_ has fc ci scripts to share in some future repo tbd | 15:46 | |
patrickeast | probably the hardest part was figuring out how to properly configure everything… all told there are like 50 config files involved between the openstack provider and ci system | 15:47 |
patrickeast | this is where that documentation push is really going to shine | 15:47 |
asselin_ | patrickeast, does rdo help out with the openstack provider configs? or are those the ci config to point to the provider? | 15:48 |
patrickeast | it does get everything setup and working, but we’ve had to go back through and customize things a bit | 15:48 |
patrickeast | like where nova stores intances, and glance keeps images | 15:49 |
patrickeast | due to partitioning on the system | 15:49 |
patrickeast | and we had to delete all of its automatic network setup and do our own | 15:49 |
krtaylor | patrickeast, we had a similar situation, but as we worked through everything, we found ways to use upstream as-is and have less delta | 15:49 |
patrickeast | yea my goal is to try and reduce that when we add in the FC testing | 15:50 |
patrickeast | right now its only a single initiator we test with | 15:51 |
patrickeast | i’ve got 2 more even bigger ones on the rack next to it waiting to be hooked up with the array | 15:51 |
patrickeast | for those ones i’m hoping to improve upon the current setup a bit | 15:51 |
krtaylor | patrickeast, have you automated any other parts of the system for your testing? | 15:52 |
patrickeast | nothing significant, we’ve added in some scripts to cleanup the array once it is done testing | 15:52 |
krtaylor | created any monitoring framework? | 15:53 |
patrickeast | actually yea, a little one | 15:53 |
patrickeast | https://github.com/patrick-east/os-ext-testing-data/tree/master/tools/server_monitor | 15:53 |
patrickeast | so | 15:53 |
* asselin_ looki ng | 15:53 | |
patrickeast | we ran into a few times where the system would start failing for X reason | 15:53 |
* krtaylor looks too | 15:53 | |
patrickeast | either disk out of space | 15:53 |
patrickeast | or the job was unregistered | 15:53 |
patrickeast | or the array went down | 15:54 |
patrickeast | so i made a little script that sits on the master and sends email alerts whenever something like that happens | 15:54 |
* patrickeast doesn’t know how to use nagios | 15:54 | |
krtaylor | hehheh | 15:54 |
krtaylor | we are looking at using nagios also | 15:54 |
krtaylor | hm, something else to share with the community... | 15:55 |
patrickeast | my companies IT and internal ci teams use nagios quite a lot, so i’m hoping to get their help one day to make this integrated with all their dashboards and stuff | 15:55 |
asselin_ | what does -infra use? | 15:55 |
patrickeast | but for now its nice to get an email instead of checking in and seeing it failed the last 50 builds | 15:56 |
krtaylor | asselin_, eyeballs :) | 15:56 |
asselin_ | I configured zuul to send me e-mails on job status. I check the results periodically. | 15:56 |
asselin_ | also a good way to fill up your mailbox | 15:57 |
krtaylor | +1000, yeah we did that, then turned it off | 15:57 |
asselin_ | but looking for something better. thanks patrickeast :) | 15:57 |
krtaylor | excellent, thanks for sharing that | 15:57 |
patrickeast | oh, also, not sure if anyone else is interested but https://github.com/patrick-east/os-ext-testing-data/blob/master/tools/clean_purity.py is the cleaning script, it parses the cinder logs for any volumes/hosts/whatever from that particular test run and wipes out any left over | 15:57 |
patrickeast | we have a relatively small max volume limit on our arrays so it becomes an issue if we aren’t agressive about it | 15:58 |
krtaylor | #link https://github.com/patrick-east/os-ext-testing-data/tree/master/tools/server_monitor | 15:58 |
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krtaylor | #link https://github.com/patrick-east/os-ext-testing-data/blob/master/tools/clean_purity.py | 15:58 |
lennyb | you can also query Jenskins with json api to see last jobs status | 15:58 |
patrickeast | yep, we thats all the server_monitor script does, although i dialed it back to just alerting when things hit the fan (health score of 0) | 15:59 |
patrickeast | since i was tired of emails for actual failures on bad patches | 15:59 |
krtaylor | well, we are close to time | 15:59 |
lennyb | yeah, we are getting now emails only after N failed jobs | 16:00 |
krtaylor | thank you patrickeast for sharing this info about your system | 16:00 |
patrickeast | np | 16:00 |
asselin_ | big thanks! | 16:00 |
patrickeast | let me know if you guys have more questions | 16:00 |
krtaylor | thanks everyone, great meeting! | 16:00 |
mmedvede | patrickeast: thank you, very good | 16:00 |
asselin_ | patrickeast, a few. will ask offline | 16:00 |
krtaylor | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 18 16:01:01 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-02-18-15.01.html | 16:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-02-18-15.01.txt | 16:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-02-18-15.01.log.html | 16:01 |
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yamahata | hello | 17:02 |
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yamahata | #startmeeting servicevm-device-manager | 17:04 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 18 17:04:06 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yamahata. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:04 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: servicevm-device-manager)" | 17:04 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'servicevm_device_manager' | 17:04 |
s3wong | hello | 17:04 |
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yamahata | s3wong: hello | 17:04 |
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yamahata | seems only two. | 17:05 |
yamahata | #topic Announcement | 17:05 |
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s3wong | yamahata: bobmel is online, but he hasn't been attending Tacker meetings for a while | 17:05 |
yamahata | summit topic vote has started | 17:05 |
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yamahata | #link https://www.openstack.org/vote-vancouver/ | 17:06 |
SridharRamaswamy | hi | 17:06 |
yamahata | SridharRamaswamy: hi | 17:06 |
yamahata | our session link is https://www.openstack.org/vote-vancouver/presentation/tacker-virtual-network-function-life-cycle-management-for-openstack | 17:06 |
yamahata | #link https://www.openstack.org/vote-vancouver/presentation/tacker-virtual-network-function-life-cycle-management-for-openstack | 17:06 |
s3wong | SridharRamaswamy: hello | 17:06 |
SridharRamaswamy | s3wong: hi | 17:07 |
yamahata | any other announcement? | 17:08 |
s3wong | yamahata: no | 17:08 |
yamahata | #topic Open Discussion | 17:08 |
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yamahata | #chair s3wong SridharRamaswamy | 17:08 |
openstack | Current chairs: SridharRamaswamy s3wong yamahata | 17:08 |
s3wong | yamahata: I would like to ask --- you have a section on oslo proxy, what is the intent of oslo proxy for Tacker? | 17:09 |
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yamahata | s3wong: it was proposed for Juno cycle, but was rejected by oslo project. | 17:10 |
s3wong | yamahata: was the intention health check on VM? | 17:10 |
yamahata | So it's suspended. | 17:10 |
yamahata | the intention is to introduce side communication channel instead of provide net. | 17:11 |
yamahata | communication between openstack servers and service inside VM. | 17:11 |
s3wong | yamahata: so this was supposed to run in the context of the VM? | 17:12 |
yamahata | Yes. | 17:12 |
s3wong | yamahata: interesting, not in hypervisor / host-OS context like all the other agents then | 17:13 |
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yamahata | Yea, but it was though of backdoor and big security flaw. So it was rejected. | 17:14 |
s3wong | yamahata: OK | 17:14 |
s3wong | yamahata: what communication did you expect Tacker to have with service VM besides health monitoring? | 17:15 |
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SridharRamaswamy | folks - sorry got disconnected :( | 17:16 |
yamahata | control communication. push/pull configuration/event notification | 17:16 |
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s3wong | yamahata: OK. Since Tacker manages the VMs, we need to identify which set of config to push in case we restart a VM | 17:18 |
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SridharRamaswamy | s3wong: yamahata: are we are imagining a "friendly" ServiceVM where you can put tacker-agent in ? | 17:19 |
SridharRamaswamy | to do these health / config push & pull ? | 17:19 |
s3wong | SridharRamaswamy: is that even possible? that we ask the service VM to include tacker-agent during launch? | 17:19 |
yamahata | Right. | 17:20 |
yamahata | It's possible with providernet now. | 17:20 |
s3wong | or can we have Tacker agent in hypervisor / host OS to do these? | 17:20 |
SridharRamaswamy | No. Mostly likely not and thats what we need to design for... | 17:20 |
s3wong | yamahata: how is that accomplished with providernet? | 17:21 |
yamahata | We can create providernet which is connected openstack management network. | 17:22 |
yamahata | Then openstack servers and VMs can communicate freely by assigning the providernet to VMs. | 17:22 |
yamahata | I heard some cloud providers do so. | 17:22 |
s3wong | yamahata: Tacker has management interface abstraction --- so previously Tacker just creates such mgmt intf without plugging it into some mgmt network? | 17:23 |
yamahata | we need to write driver to connect the intf into mgmt network. | 17:25 |
s3wong | yamahata: but the mgmt network needs to be created outside of Tacker? | 17:25 |
yamahata | s3wong: Right. | 17:26 |
s3wong | yamahata: OK | 17:27 |
SridharRamaswamy | what is the relation of this providernet to the actual tenant network ? At the end the traffic from tenant VMs need to be steered to one of these providernet towards the ServiceVM | 17:27 |
SridharRamaswamy | I'd assume that would be different from the tacker-mgmt-network | 17:28 |
s3wong | SridharRamaswamy: sounds like yamahata was saying Tacker should leverage provider-net as the mgmt network for all Tacker managed VMs | 17:29 |
yamahata | s3wong: exactly. | 17:30 |
s3wong | yamahata: is it possible that Tacker an auto-create such provider-net? to ease up operators' work? | 17:30 |
yamahata | With some information from admin, it's quite possible. | 17:31 |
s3wong | yamahata: OK | 17:32 |
s3wong | yamahata, SridharRamaswamy: as mentioned in the email, my friend and I will be spending some 20% of time on Tacker, so we will be looking for things to do to shape Tacker into VNF Manager | 17:33 |
SridharRamaswamy | Sorry, I missed the part why we are using provide-net ... i've always seen scenarios where ServiceVMs have it own mgmt-network | 17:33 |
SridharRamaswamy | s3wong: +2 | 17:34 |
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yamahata | s3wong: +2. I'm surely willing to help | 17:34 |
SridharRamaswamy | same here | 17:34 |
s3wong | SridharRamaswamy: yeah... sounds like this new provider-net unifies the VM mgmt network interface | 17:35 |
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s3wong | yamahata: that said, so now all VMs would be launched with a vport connecting to the provider-net, in addition to having another vport connecting to Neutron network? | 17:35 |
yamahata | Yes. | 17:36 |
s3wong | yamahata: interesting, so this is a Nova thing then? | 17:36 |
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yamahata | Right. That's the reason why a driver which talks to nova is needed. | 17:37 |
s3wong | yamahata: I see | 17:37 |
s3wong | yamahata: good to know | 17:37 |
s3wong | we can certainly try this as the communication channel between Tacker and VMs | 17:39 |
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yamahata | any other topics? | 17:40 |
s3wong | yamahata: that | 17:40 |
s3wong | that's it for me | 17:40 |
SridharRamaswamy | regarding the talk, are we going to demo some of these concepts ? | 17:41 |
s3wong | SridharRamaswamy: well, we will know if our talk will be voted in in two week :-) | 17:41 |
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s3wong | SridharRamaswamy: so, if it is, then we can meet f2f to see if and what we want to demo | 17:42 |
yamahata | we will see. I'll afraid after it's accepted... | 17:42 |
yamahata | s3wong: +1 | 17:42 |
s3wong | SridharRamaswamy, yamahata: until then, we march along to build Tacker without worrying too much about the talk first :-) | 17:42 |
yamahata | okay, thank you everybody. | 17:44 |
s3wong | Thanks! | 17:44 |
yamahata | let's vote for summit talk. | 17:44 |
yamahata | #endmeeting | 17:44 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 18 17:44:43 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:44 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/servicevm_device_manager/2015/servicevm_device_manager.2015-02-18-17.04.html | 17:44 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/servicevm_device_manager/2015/servicevm_device_manager.2015-02-18-17.04.txt | 17:44 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/servicevm_device_manager/2015/servicevm_device_manager.2015-02-18-17.04.log.html | 17:44 |
s3wong | well, voting is only an "input" to the talk decision :-) | 17:44 |
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SridharRamaswamy | s3wong: yamahata: bye, already voted :) | 17:47 |
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shamail | Sorry all, I am on vacation this week and forgot about this meeting. :( Is the Product meeting wrapped up? | 23:47 |
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s3wong | shamail: looks like it is happening at #openstack-meeting now | 23:50 |
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