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| krtaylor | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 7 15:00:36 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is krtaylor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:00 |
| krtaylor | anyone here for third-party working group meeting? | 15:01 |
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| nati_ueno | hi | 15:01 |
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| nuritv | Hi | 15:01 |
| krtaylor | hi nati_ueno | 15:01 |
| krtaylor | hi nuritv | 15:02 |
| sweston | o/ | 15:02 |
| nati_ueno | hi krtaylor | 15:02 |
| krtaylor | hi sweston | 15:02 |
| sweston | krtaylor: greetings! | 15:02 |
| krtaylor | looks like asselin is lurking also | 15:02 |
| krtaylor | happy new year everyone! | 15:02 |
| sweston | happy new year, krtaylor | 15:03 |
| krtaylor | well, so this meeting is the first of the new third-party CI working group | 15:03 |
| krtaylor | we will meet every Wednesday at 1500 and 0400 alternating | 15:03 |
| krtaylor | the focus will be different than the previous meetings | 15:04 |
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| omrim | Hello | 15:04 |
| krtaylor | here we will focus on CI operators improving the consumability of the CI services | 15:05 |
| krtaylor | hi omrim | 15:05 |
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| krtaylor | the agenda is extracted from the earlier meetings and is here: | 15:05 |
| krtaylor | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty#1.2F7.2F15_1500_UTC | 15:06 |
| krtaylor | so, we started a bunch of things before the holidays, now it is time to get moving on them | 15:06 |
| krtaylor | first up is the CI documentation | 15:07 |
| krtaylor | there is an etherpad for organizing, but little movement | 15:07 |
| krtaylor | the link is in the agenda | 15:07 |
| krtaylor | I was going to push a virtual sprint | 15:07 |
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| krtaylor | but after yesterday's infra meeting, it looks like the infra cores we'd need are busy till Feb | 15:08 |
| krtaylor | I'd like to see progress before that, so maybe we just do this one patch at a time until we get several things proposed | 15:09 |
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| krtaylor | any comments? | 15:09 |
| krtaylor | omrim already has a patch proposed for adding a FAQ section | 15:09 |
| krtaylor | with good reviews | 15:09 |
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| krtaylor | omrim, are you planning a refresh to that patch soon? | 15:09 |
| omrim | krtaylor: Yes Sure! | 15:10 |
| krtaylor | it looks like it is close, with a couple of minor fixes | 15:10 |
| omrim | A new Patchset will be ready tommorow | 15:10 |
| krtaylor | great! | 15:10 |
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| krtaylor | I did get permission to use any bits from jaypipes blogs as we need | 15:11 |
| krtaylor | but we'll need some more workers to go through the sections and refresh/rewrite | 15:12 |
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| krtaylor | I've signed up for requirements, I plan on a patch for that this week | 15:12 |
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| krtaylor | any takers on other sections? | 15:13 |
| sweston | krtaylor: I will check it out later this week, and let you know | 15:14 |
| krtaylor | sweston, thanks | 15:14 |
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| asselin_ | hi | 15:15 |
| krtaylor | just put your nick next to the section you will work on so we don't conflict | 15:15 |
| krtaylor | hi asselin_ | 15:15 |
| sweston | ok, will do | 15:15 |
| sweston | hi asselin_ | 15:15 |
| asselin_ | sorry I'm late. fyi, I don't have scrollback. | 15:16 |
| krtaylor | I see a real advantage for a virtual sprint for this work, so maybe we can get that done for a final push for approval for the patches | 15:16 |
| krtaylor | asselin_, np, it is being logged | 15:17 |
| krtaylor | (hopefully) | 15:17 |
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| krtaylor | anyone have anything else for documentation? | 15:18 |
| krtaylor | next up is the CI monitoring and dashboard work and spec | 15:18 |
| sweston | I have an update | 15:18 |
| krtaylor | the spec is getting a lot of reviews | 15:18 |
| krtaylor | sweston, your floor | 15:19 |
| sweston | krtaylor: thanks | 15:19 |
| sweston | I have completed the new rest api layer in pecan/wsme, and also finished development on the angularjs webclient. | 15:19 |
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| sweston | The code is in the stackforge repository #link https://github.com/stackforge/radar | 15:19 |
| krtaylor | yes, I just started to look through that | 15:19 |
| sweston | and online live at #link http://dashboard.triniplex.com | 15:19 |
| sweston | this week I'll get started on getting some interesting information in there, and will update the spec | 15:20 |
| sweston | that's all I have for today | 15:21 |
| krtaylor | sweston, jhesketh had some good comments about the spec | 15:21 |
| krtaylor | about the scope | 15:21 |
| sweston | yup, I saw them .. have been too swamped to respond yet | 15:21 |
| krtaylor | I was somewhat in agreement, that maybe it grew too big too fast | 15:22 |
| sweston | thanks everyone who commented, asselin_ had some good input as well | 15:22 |
| krtaylor | what are you thinking there | 15:22 |
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| krtaylor | I think initially everyone was just looking for radar to be fixed, then enhanced | 15:23 |
| sweston | I agree | 15:23 |
| krtaylor | maybe it was overwhelming the features that were in the initial drop | 15:23 |
| sweston | I think that querying the gerrit api is a good first goal | 15:24 |
| krtaylor | agreed | 15:24 |
| asselin_ | agree | 15:24 |
| krtaylor | do you think we shoud split the spec as jhesketh suggests? | 15:24 |
| sweston | posting something in the review comments would be preferable, that way we create as little interference with the current process as possible | 15:25 |
| sweston | I think it's a good idea | 15:25 |
| sweston | best for this to be a phased approach | 15:26 |
| sweston | we'll see what works, and what folks are comfortable with, and then iterate | 15:26 |
| krtaylor | ok, maybe a phases division in the spec? | 15:26 |
| sweston | yes, I think that is best | 15:26 |
| krtaylor | ok, good | 15:27 |
| krtaylor | so you'll have a new spec soon? | 15:27 |
| krtaylor | no rushing you, just wondering | 15:27 |
| sweston | yes, i'll try to get to it in the next few days | 15:27 |
| krtaylor | great | 15:27 |
| krtaylor | ok anything else on monitoring/dashboard? | 15:29 |
| sweston | that's it from my side | 15:29 |
| krtaylor | ok, next was the puppet modules split out work | 15:30 |
| krtaylor | that was discussed yesterday at infra meeting | 15:30 |
| asselin_ | yes, we got approval to | 15:30 |
| krtaylor | and a mini-sprint the end of the month right? | 15:31 |
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| asselin__ | (got disconnected) | 15:31 |
| krtaylor | ah, just was saying there is a mini-sprint planned | 15:32 |
| asselin__ | yes, very excited about that | 15:32 |
| krtaylor | that will help get it done | 15:32 |
| asselin__ | sweston, I posted some comments on your script with fixes. did you get a chance to look at those? | 15:33 |
| sweston | asselin__: not yet, will check them out | 15:33 |
| asselin__ | the auto-subtree script | 15:33 |
| sweston | asselin__: thank you for the comments | 15:33 |
| asselin__ | comments include a few fixes that I tested on my system | 15:34 |
| sweston | yup, will push a new patchset today | 15:34 |
| asselin__ | so please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140523/ | 15:34 |
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| asselin__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140523/ | 15:34 |
| asselin__ | so we can get that merged asap | 15:35 |
| sweston | will do it asap | 15:35 |
| asselin__ | we can still do splits before the sprint | 15:35 |
| asselin__ | and I think that's a good idea to figure out any remaining issues | 15:35 |
| sweston | agreed | 15:35 |
| krtaylor | agreed | 15:36 |
| asselin__ | so the sprint day we can be smooth execution | 15:36 |
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| krtaylor | asselin__, what day is the sprint? was it the 30th? | 15:37 |
| asselin__ | Jan 28, wednesday | 15:37 |
| rprakash_ | Neutron SErvice VM? | 15:37 |
| krtaylor | 28th, ok making note on my calendar | 15:38 |
| asselin__ | I think that's it, unless there are othe rquestions | 15:38 |
| * asselin__ added another agenta topic | 15:39 | |
| krtaylor | asselin__, I saw that you pushed a new patchset for in-tree ci | 15:39 |
| asselin__ | yes, that's the next topic :) | 15:39 |
| krtaylor | hehheh, yes I see the refresh now | 15:40 |
| krtaylor | I was going to mention it anyway, no worries | 15:40 |
| asselin__ | so I'm interested to hear what ppl think is the best way to refactor the puppet scripts to be reusable | 15:41 |
| asselin__ | and where they should go / how to structure it | 15:42 |
| krtaylor | asselin__, this new module will change documentation, I am wondering if we push here first before documentation rewrite | 15:45 |
| krtaylor | or just fix (or add a new section) with this in mind | 15:45 |
| asselin__ | I hesitate to delay documentation | 15:46 |
| asselin__ | I prefer to fix/add a new section | 15:46 |
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| krtaylor | agreed | 15:47 |
| ja_ | +1 to fix/add ... before too long I have to start standing up a new CI system from scratch | 15:47 |
| sweston | agreed, as well | 15:47 |
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| asselin__ | and it's not clear how long it will take | 15:47 |
| krtaylor | asselin__, have you had any feedback from infra ci on refactoring | 15:47 |
| ja_ | ... maybe the refactoring itself can/should be staged/sprinted ala the earlier discussion | 15:47 |
| asselin__ | some discussions, but nothing concrete. | 15:48 |
| asselin__ | everyone supports the idea, just not clear the best solution. | 15:48 |
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| asselin__ | so I'd like to get some ppl thinking about what the end result should look like and how to get there | 15:49 |
| asselin__ | there are some infra comments on the log server split out attempt | 15:49 |
| asselin__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138913/ | 15:49 |
| krtaylor | ok, we'll see how the reviews go, I very much like the idea | 15:49 |
| asselin__ | in that case I was refactoring everything and leaving it in openstack_project | 15:50 |
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| asselin__ | another option is to put the refactored portions in the puppet-* projects directly | 15:51 |
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| asselin__ | but i'm not sure what ppl think about that. i.e. have an openstack-zuul.pp inside puppet-zuul | 15:51 |
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| krtaylor | from some of the template ideas we kicked around, that was the direction from those discussions IIRC | 15:52 |
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| asselin__ | my goal is to have thirdpartyci and openstackproject use the same puppet scripts | 15:52 |
| krtaylor | +1 | 15:53 |
| sweston | asselin__: +100 | 15:53 |
| ja_ | +1 | 15:53 |
| asselin__ | the other approach I thought was to get a thirdpartyci solution created | 15:54 |
| asselin__ | then, from there, refactor out the puppet classes out of that and openstack_project. | 15:54 |
| asselin__ | the advantage is you get something working sooner, but not sure how easy it would be to execute | 15:55 |
| sweston | that's interesting | 15:55 |
| sweston | might work better than refactoring things as they are | 15:55 |
| krtaylor | yes, and at some point, maybe a total fork is the right approach | 15:55 |
| asselin__ | but it would be clear what's needed | 15:55 |
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| ja_ | how onerous is the creation (and, if goal is met, eventual deletion) of a new 'solution' ? | 15:56 |
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| krtaylor | it really is a question of getting critical mass on one effort, but that is why we are here | 15:57 |
| ja_ | ...although, given that there will always be a certain degree of upstream churn, maybe it's only creation. if its contents someday become empty, until the next Major Churn, that's not automatically bad. | 15:57 |
| krtaylor | really good discussion, but we are almost out of time | 15:58 |
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| asselin_ | hi sorry got disconnected again | 15:59 |
| krtaylor | I wanted to remind everyone that next week will be Wednesday at 0400 UTC | 15:59 |
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| krtaylor | I will get the agenda updated | 15:59 |
| krtaylor | that will be late Tues for those of us in the US | 15:59 |
| asselin_ | krtaylor, could you send reminders to the mailing list? | 15:59 |
| krtaylor | yes, will do | 16:00 |
| sweston | thanks everyone | 16:00 |
| krtaylor | thanks all! | 16:00 |
| asselin_ | thanks | 16:00 |
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| krtaylor | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 7 16:00:24 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-01-07-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-01-07-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-01-07-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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| yamahata | hello | 17:01 |
| s3wong | hello | 17:01 |
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| SridharRamaswamy | hi folks | 17:02 |
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| yamahata | #startmeeting servicevm-device-manager | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 7 17:03:41 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yamahata. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: servicevm-device-manager)" | 17:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'servicevm_device_manager' | 17:03 |
| yamahata | #chair s3wong bobmel | 17:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: bobmel s3wong yamahata | 17:03 |
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| yamahata | happy new year | 17:04 |
| yamahata | I hope you enjoyed vacation and refereshed | 17:04 |
| s3wong | yamahata: yes, Happy New Year to all | 17:04 |
| yamahata | Sorry for my long unresponsiveness and thank you for covering it. | 17:05 |
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| yamahata | Now I'm back and catching up. | 17:05 |
| SridharRamaswamy | yamahata: s3wong: happy new year! | 17:05 |
| yamahata | #topic Announcement | 17:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcement (Meeting topic: servicevm-device-manager)" | 17:06 | |
| yamahata | any announcement to make? | 17:07 |
| * yamahata waiting | 17:08 | |
| s3wong | yamahata: not really... activity in the new year is slow... | 17:08 |
| yamahata | seems nothing... | 17:08 |
| yamahata | K-2 is Feb 2 | 17:09 |
| yamahata | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule | 17:09 |
| yamahata | Let's move on... | 17:09 |
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| yamahata | To be honest, do we have specific topic to discuss? | 17:10 |
| s3wong | yamahata: SridharRamaswamy suggested to have a webex session after K-Summit | 17:10 |
| SridharRamaswamy | yamahata: we need some ideas how to get the the api-spec review | 17:10 |
| yamahata | #topic Open Discussion | 17:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: servicevm-device-manager)" | 17:10 | |
| s3wong | yamahata: perhaps we should send out an email to the team to confirm a date? | 17:10 |
| yamahata | s3wong: sounds good idea. | 17:11 |
| SridharRamaswamy | s3wong: yes, but we need to converge on date / time | 17:11 |
| SridharRamaswamy | s3wong: +1 | 17:11 |
| s3wong | yamahata, SridharRamaswamy: we can't make a decision during today's meeting, given how low the attendance is :-) | 17:11 |
| yamahata | s3wong: +1 | 17:12 |
| yamahata | I'm willing to send out an email to the team. | 17:12 |
| SridharRamaswamy | s3wong: sure, lets send an email | 17:12 |
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| s3wong | Also, commenting on the document has been slow --- so I would say let's not wait for that, and just go directly to a webex session, and capture the discussion on the document | 17:13 |
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| SridharRamaswamy | s3wong: agree | 17:13 |
| yamahata | Given the attendee rate, the schedule would be around the week of Jan 19 or Jan 26? | 17:13 |
| yamahata | Or can we rush the week of Jan 12. | 17:14 |
| s3wong | yamahata: most probably, but the team can decide via email. But I think you can make the initial suggestion | 17:14 |
| yamahata | #action yamahata send an email to the team for webex session scheduling | 17:14 |
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| SridharRamaswamy | regarding the google doc.. is this the correct ? link # https://docs.google.com/document/d/10v818QsHWw5lSpiCMfh908PAvVzkw7_ZUL0cgDiH3Vk/edit | 17:15 |
| SridharRamaswamy | I only have view only access | 17:16 |
| SridharRamaswamy | I was trying to add a block diagram as discussed in the last IRC mtg | 17:16 |
| yamahata | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xs8TvEVMszzND5uoWTHtd1tJnu7105Ekgq9hxiyXABQ/edit?pli=1# is the latest one. | 17:17 |
| yamahata | I'll update the link in the old google-doc. | 17:17 |
| yamahata | #action yamahata update the link in the old doc | 17:17 |
| SridharRamaswamy | yamahata: thanks, got it | 17:17 |
| s3wong | SridharRamaswamy: should be this one: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xs8TvEVMszzND5uoWTHtd1tJnu7105Ekgq9hxiyXABQ/edit | 17:17 |
| SridharRamaswamy | s3wong: thanks, i'll add the diagram to this version | 17:19 |
| s3wong | SridharRamaswamy: cool | 17:19 |
| SridharRamaswamy | I'll also add a link to doc in #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ServiceVM/Design | 17:21 |
| yamahata | updated the link in the old google-doc | 17:22 |
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| SridharRamaswamy | done updating the wiki | 17:24 |
| SridharRamaswamy | yamahata: thanks | 17:24 |
| yamahata | any other topic? | 17:25 |
| SridharRamaswamy | nothing from me | 17:25 |
| s3wong | all good for my front | 17:25 |
| s3wong | looking forward to seeing SridharRamaswamy's diagram in the doc | 17:26 |
| yamahata | Cool. | 17:26 |
| yamahata | Thank you all. | 17:26 |
| SridharRamaswamy | s3wong: that would be my initial stab, we can refine it | 17:26 |
| s3wong | SridharRamaswamy: anything to trigger a real discussion would be good :-) | 17:26 |
| SridharRamaswamy | s3wong: yep! | 17:27 |
| yamahata | #endmeeting | 17:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 7 17:27:26 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/servicevm_device_manager/2015/servicevm_device_manager.2015-01-07-17.03.html | 17:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/servicevm_device_manager/2015/servicevm_device_manager.2015-01-07-17.03.txt | 17:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/servicevm_device_manager/2015/servicevm_device_manager.2015-01-07-17.03.log.html | 17:27 |
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| mfisch | morning everyone | 18:00 |
| mfisch | #start-meeting | 18:00 |
| mfisch | I forget how to do this.. | 18:00 |
| klindgren | #start-meeting <meeting name> | 18:00 |
| klindgren | iirc | 18:00 |
| mfisch | #startmeeting Operations | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 7 18:00:56 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mfisch. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| dvorak | yeap | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Operations)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'operations' | 18:01 |
| mdorman | o/ | 18:01 |
| mfisch | a lovely snowy day here, who's around??? | 18:01 |
| klindgren | o/ | 18:01 |
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| mfisch | okay we dont have many topics today | 18:02 |
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| mfisch | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-operators-meeting-070115-agenda | 18:02 |
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| mfisch | The main topic is the mid-cycle meet-up which is March 9-10 in Philadelphia | 18:02 |
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| mfisch | anyone here planning to go? | 18:03 |
| mdorman | i figure on going, assuming my boss says i can | 18:03 |
| klindgren | I hope to - haven't actaully discussed it yet | 18:03 |
| rickerc | I am | 18:03 |
| mfisch | I am going as is dvorak | 18:03 |
| dvorak | yeap | 18:03 |
| mfisch | the main thing is that everyone should work on adding topics to the Etherpad: | 18:04 |
| mfisch | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PHL-ops-meetup | 18:04 |
| mfisch | not sure that link is working but thats the etherpad | 18:04 |
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| serverascode____ | I'm going to the Philly meetup as well | 18:04 |
| mdorman | also need people to volunteer to lead/guide the sessions and owrking groups | 18:05 |
| mdorman | fwiw | 18:05 |
| mfisch | what does that entail? | 18:05 |
| mdorman | really just taking that from Tom’s notes at the top of hte etherpad | 18:05 |
| mdorman | "We also need Moderators, who lead the discussions, ususally in areas they are interested in." | 18:06 |
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| jlk | oh hi. Missed the start. | 18:06 |
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| mfisch | I hoped tom could make it today, but I dont see him | 18:06 |
| mfisch | crinkle: will you be there? | 18:07 |
| crinkle | mfisch: I haven't brought it up with my company yet, will do asap | 18:07 |
| * mfisch notes that puppet has a lot of votes | 18:07 | |
| emagana | I will be at the meet up as well | 18:08 |
| emagana | mdorman: I already signed up as moderators | 18:08 |
| jlk | this is the operators meet up this March? | 18:08 |
| mdorman | cool, yeah saw that emagana | 18:08 |
| mdorman | jlk: yes | 18:09 |
| mfisch | I see furious editing going on so thats good | 18:09 |
| jlk | yeah I plan to be there with a couple others from my company | 18:09 |
| mfisch | Anything we should know or prep for the meet-up for those who've attended? | 18:09 |
| jlk | come with an agenda, be prepared to pitch it, also be prepared to be completely overwhelmed with data :) | 18:10 |
| mdorman | yaeh i’d agree. try to get things you’re most interested in the etherpad so the agenda accurately reflects what people want to get out of it | 18:10 |
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| mfisch | thanks | 18:11 |
| mfisch | This will be an ongoing process and ML discussion | 18:11 |
| mfisch | unless there's anything else on this we can move on? | 18:12 |
| rickerc | are particulars (time, address, etc) firmed up yet? adding those to the wiki will help people booking travel | 18:12 |
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| mdorman | yeah there was a ML post about that | 18:12 |
| mdorman | but its mar 9-10 in philadelphia | 18:12 |
| mfisch | rickerc: March 9 - 10, ending early enough on the 10th to catch planes | 18:12 |
| mfisch | I'm planning on leaving early on the 11th since I have a long flight | 18:12 |
| mdorman | +1 | 18:13 |
| dvorak | we've booked travel, we're staying at the Windsor Suites, which is a block or two away | 18:13 |
| mfisch | rickerc: its hosted at the Comcast building | 18:13 |
| dvorak | also, the Comcast building has a subway station in the basement, so it's easy to get to from the airport or Amtrak | 18:13 |
| * mfisch notes he can spur discussion simply by threatening to change the topic | 18:14 | |
| markvoelker | Is someone setting up an eventbrite, or should we just register via etherpad? | 18:14 |
| mfisch | good ML question, can you reply to Tom? | 18:15 |
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| markvoelker | sure | 18:15 |
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| mdorman | there was a question about registration on the ML this morning. i imagine tom will reply soon | 18:16 |
| markvoelker | AH, so there was. Cool. | 18:16 |
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| mfisch | would things like ovs work as topics? | 18:17 |
| mfisch | I wonder if that's too low level | 18:17 |
| mdorman | don’t see why not | 18:17 |
| mdorman | it’s relevant to people | 18:17 |
| markvoelker | mdorman: +1 | 18:18 |
| klindgren | Are we still using the github repo for ops tools? or did we get an "offical" one? | 18:18 |
| rickerc | throw it in the wiki, see how many votes it gets | 18:18 |
| mdorman | no official one yet as far as i know | 18:18 |
| mfisch | to my knowledge we dont have an official one yet | 18:18 |
| markvoelker | Nothing official AFAIK. Even the osops repo has seen relatively little traffic. | 18:19 |
| klindgren | Can people update what they have in the current one (I know I have some updates that need to get pushed) | 18:19 |
| mdorman | yeah i htink everyone likes the idea, but kinda difficult to get momentum going on contributions | 18:19 |
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| mfisch | I've been meaning to contribute some db upgrade stuff but I've not found the time | 18:21 |
| mfisch | assume thats everyones issue | 18:21 |
| mfisch | thanks for the segue klindgren | 18:21 |
| mfisch | #topic tools | 18:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "tools (Meeting topic: Operations)" | 18:21 | |
| mfisch | I don't see Xav here, but he was going to start working on sharing some of his tools/processess | 18:22 |
| mfisch | has anyone else considered that? | 18:23 |
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| mdorman | there have been a few people put stuff in there. | 18:23 |
| mdorman | i feel like it might make more sense to just have everybody kinda do a ‘dump’ there, and then we can start looking for commonalities, dups, etc. | 18:24 |
| mfisch | what do you think about company specific stuff? | 18:24 |
| mfisch | everyone has quirks that their code accomadates | 18:24 |
| mdorman | so i guess what i’m saying is i think there is value in people just sending in a PR of their directory of stuff, rather than trying to to patches against what’s in there at the moment. | 18:24 |
| mfisch | undocumented usually | 18:24 |
| mdorman | well my personal opionin on that stuff is that generally it should stay out of the community tools. and/or have it be configurable so it’s disabled by default, etc. | 18:25 |
| mfisch | I need to consider that when writing tools like ansible code | 18:26 |
| mfisch | or at least make it so that its easy to see where that stuff is and remove | 18:26 |
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| mdorman | right. it’s tricky | 18:26 |
| mfisch | okay lets move along | 18:26 |
| mfisch | #topic sample config follow-up | 18:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "sample config follow-up (Meeting topic: Operations)" | 18:26 | |
| mfisch | did anyone see any follow-up about sample configs? | 18:26 |
| mfisch | there was supposed to be a proposal and ML post | 18:26 |
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| dvorak | I didn't see anything. I'm guessing it got lost over the holiday | 18:27 |
| mfisch | does anyone remember who agreed to do that? | 18:27 |
| mdorman | yeah i am not sure wehre that got left either | 18:27 |
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| mfisch | mdorman: can you look back at that meeting minutes and see who agreed to do the work? | 18:28 |
| mfisch | I'm blanking on the name | 18:28 |
| mdorman | yeah doing that now | 18:28 |
| mfisch | I can ping him or you can | 18:28 |
| mfisch | okay we can take that offline | 18:29 |
| mfisch | #action follow-up on sample config proposal | 18:29 |
| * mfisch is pretty sure meeting bot is ignoring me | 18:29 | |
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| mfisch | okay the only other topic is packaging follow-up but thats in the same boat as tools | 18:30 |
| mfisch | I will ping xavprince about tools and what not after this | 18:31 |
| mfisch | mdorman: can you ping on the sample config? | 18:31 |
| mdorman | digging through the log now. http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/crossproject/2014/crossproject.2014-12-16-21.01.log.txt there were no specific actions from it last time, so trying to find the name | 18:31 |
| mfisch | I think it was fungi | 18:32 |
| dvorak | I believe so | 18:33 |
| mfisch | 21:29:53 <fungi> so i think as a takeaway we can at least summarize some of these options as doable and take the temperature on the ml thread>? | 18:33 |
| mfisch | mdorman: can you ping him? | 18:33 |
| fungi | yeah | 18:33 |
| mfisch | ah, done! | 18:33 |
| fungi | i did that | 18:33 |
| mdorman | yeah i was goign to say, pretty sure that already happened | 18:33 |
| fungi | not many people followed up on the mailing list to my summary | 18:33 |
| mfisch | fungi: which ml? | 18:33 |
| mfisch | if I missed it, I apologize | 18:35 |
| fungi | operators ml | 18:35 |
| fungi | digging up a link now | 18:35 |
| mfisch | thanks | 18:35 |
| fungi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2014-December/005742.html | 18:36 |
| mfisch | okay then I missed it, my fault | 18:36 |
| mfisch | okay anything else for today? | 18:37 |
| markvoelker | Just one quick reminder I think | 18:38 |
| markvoelker | Since folks here have an interest in ops, some of you may also be interested in work being done in the "Win The Enterprise" teams | 18:39 |
| markvoelker | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Win_the_Enterprise | 18:39 |
| markvoelker | There are some folks there interested in operations, monitoring, deployment, etc | 18:39 |
| markvoelker | So just wanted to raise awareness for those who didn't know. | 18:39 |
| barrett1 | The Win The Enterprise teams are looking for more Operators to participate | 18:40 |
| barrett1 | The Win The Enterprise teams are looking to create reference architectures, best practices, documentation patches and blueprints for new capabilities | 18:41 |
| markvoelker | barrett1: might be good to get those meetings listed/linked to from the official Meetings wiki page to raise awareness | 18:42 |
| markvoelker | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings | 18:42 |
| dvorak | mfisch dropped offline, let's give him a minute and we can wrap up if he can't get back online shortly. | 18:42 |
| mdorman | more soil samples at the office? :) | 18:43 |
| dvorak | heh, I think he's WFH today | 18:43 |
| mfisch | sorry, I lost networking for a bit | 18:44 |
| mdorman | (context: https://twitter.com/tadowguy/status/543077687409905664 ) | 18:44 |
| mfisch | uh, I was showing a repair guy something and unplugged the router ;) | 18:44 |
| mfisch | anyway, I dont know what I missed but we were about done? | 18:44 |
| mfisch | #funtimes | 18:44 |
| mdorman | i think so. unless there were other topics anyone was going to call out. | 18:44 |
| barrett1 | You can find a list of the Win The Enterprise Teams and meeting times on the WTE wiki: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Win_the_Enterprise. Will add to meetings Wiki too | 18:44 |
| barrett1 | What's the location for the tools repository? | 18:45 |
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| klindgren | barrett1, https://github.com/osops | 18:45 |
| mfisch | unless there's anything else? I'll close out | 18:48 |
| fungi | oh, i meant to add, the takeaway from the sample configs discussion on the ml needs to result in a volunteer to draft a cross-project spec | 18:48 |
| fungi | which i mention in my follow-up e-mail in that thread | 18:48 |
| fungi | but anyway, that's the "how to get something done about it" once there's some consensus | 18:48 |
| mfisch | thanks fungi | 18:49 |
| fungi | yw | 18:49 |
| mfisch | thanks all | 18:49 |
| mfisch | hopefully we'll get some follow-up on that thread, I'll go look at it later this week | 18:50 |
| mfisch | #endmeeting | 18:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 7 18:50:59 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operations/2015/operations.2015-01-07-18.00.html | 18:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operations/2015/operations.2015-01-07-18.00.txt | 18:51 |
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