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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 31 15:00:20 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
| Swami | hi | 15:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
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| mlavalle | #chair haleyb Swami | 15:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Swami haleyb mlavalle | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:01 | |
| mlavalle | Pike is being released this week | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | so we will start the whole thing again and move to Queens now :-) | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | We are a little more than one week away from the PTG | 15:03 |
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| mlavalle | I arrive Sunday 10th at around 2:30pm. Staying at the event hotel (Renaissance) until Saturday morning | 15:04 |
| Swami | mlavalle: I am arriving late in the evening on Sunday and will be flying back on friday evening. | 15:05 |
| haleyb | i'll be there Sunday as well | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | Any other annoucements from the team? | 15:05 |
| Swami | nothing from me. | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | I had a quick chat a couple of weeks ago with carl_baldwin. He is going to join us for dinner Monday or Tuesday | 15:07 |
| Swami | mlavalle: great! | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | He'll drive all the wasy from Fort Collins | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:08 | |
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| mlavalle | Swami: go ahead, as usual | 15:08 |
| Swami | mlavalle: thanks | 15:08 |
| Swami | We had a critical bug in the grenade job that was filed yesterday. | 15:08 |
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| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1713927 | 15:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1713927 in neutron "gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-dvr-multinode-ubuntu-xenial fails constantly" [Critical,Confirmed] | 15:08 |
| Swami | If all are not aware about the problem. It seems somehow the server is providing a floatingip that is not bound to a host. | 15:09 |
| Swami | The agent configures the floatingip without checking for the host. | 15:10 |
| Swami | So the floatingip is residing on two different nodes. | 15:10 |
| Swami | This happens only when a neutron-server is restarted after some time interval. At that time when a full-sync happens, we sneak in this duplicate floatingip. | 15:11 |
| haleyb | Swami: kevin did put a reproducer in the bug this morning, and i had a discussion with kuba earlier, think we might have a workaround | 15:11 |
| Swami | haleyb: I did see that jakob had posted a patch. | 15:11 |
| haleyb | yes, but we also think we need this revert https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499263/ | 15:12 |
| Swami | haleyb: Yes I also ready kevin's reproducing steps. | 15:12 |
| Swami | haleyb: yesterday I was trying to reproduce by restarting the agent. I could not reproduce it. | 15:12 |
| Swami | haleyb: As I mentioned there are two problems. | 15:13 |
| Swami | haleyb: mlavalle: From the server side, the notification should be only sent to the host that is hosting it. | 15:13 |
| Swami | haleyb: mlavalle: on the client side it should check for host or dest_host, before configuring the floatingip. | 15:14 |
| Swami | haleyb: mlavalle: While I have not figured out what is happening on the server side yet. But on the client side we may have a better solution. | 15:14 |
| haleyb | Swami: i think with the revert and jakub's change the agent side would be fixed, fixing the check queue | 15:15 |
| Swami | haleyb: mlavalle: Yes I agree. | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | so the host fix we merged last week was really a symptom? | 15:15 |
| Swami | haleyb: mlavalle: But still the check that we have under the 'get_external_device_interface_name" | 15:15 |
| Swami | haleyb: mlavalle: may not be the right place. | 15:16 |
| Swami | haleyb: mlavalle: we should have this check before configuring the floatingip. | 15:16 |
| Swami | #link https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/agent/l3/dvr_local_router.py#L103 | 15:17 |
| Swami | we should have this check at this line, so that no floatingips are configured. | 15:17 |
| Swami | and only floatingips that are associated with that host will be configured. | 15:17 |
| Swami | mlavalle: To your question. Yes it is a symptom that we saw last week, which was sending floatingip's without host. | 15:18 |
| haleyb | but the agent shouldn't have sent, right? | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | makes sense, thanks | 15:18 |
| Swami | haleyb: Yes, you mean the 'server' shouldn't have sent in the first place. | 15:19 |
| haleyb | Swami: right, sent by accident, or because 'host' not set | 15:20 |
| Swami | haleyb: Yes. | 15:20 |
| Swami | haleyb: mlavalle: The case where we check for the 'host' condition in the server has three different conditions, so probably we might be having a leak in one of those checks. | 15:21 |
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| haleyb | Swami: so let's do the revert in stable/pike and/or master until we can fix correctly | 15:22 |
| Swami | haleyb: mlavalle: Probably the fast approach is to fix the agent side to handle the fips based on the host and then we can take a look at the server side. | 15:22 |
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| Swami | haleyb: mlavalle: I think we should fix the agent first and no need to revert at this point. | 15:23 |
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| haleyb | Swami: i think without the pike revert we can't land anything, as it's now broken so grenade in master can't pass (from what I understood) | 15:24 |
| haleyb | we can ask jakub in #neutron after meeting, but that's what i understood | 15:25 |
| Swami | haleyb: Ok, if that is the case then we can decide on reverting. | 15:25 |
| Swami | haleyb: mlavalle : So the plan is, let us check with jakub and see how his patch fairs. | 15:27 |
| Swami | haleyb: mlavalle: If it works and can be merged with the grenade job allowing to merge, then we can go ahead and push this patch and need not revert. Otherwise we should revert. | 15:28 |
| haleyb | grenade job is now doing pike->queens as of yesterday, so that changed things | 15:28 |
| Swami | haleyb: what is that? I don't get it. | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | yeah, the grenade equation chenged | 15:28 |
| haleyb | grenade configures "old" version, then upgrades to "new" version | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | changed | 15:28 |
| haleyb | so if pike is broken, then we can't upgrade | 15:29 |
| haleyb | i think the revert fixes pike, then jakub's change fixes master enough to make progress | 15:29 |
| Swami | haleyb: ok makes sense. | 15:30 |
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| Swami | haleyb: mean while I will try to see what is happening on the server side logic. | 15:31 |
| Swami | Let us move on. | 15:32 |
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| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1712913 | 15:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1712913 in neutron "Update DVR router port cause error with QoS rules" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:32 |
| Swami | This is another bug that was filed against DVR. | 15:33 |
| Swami | But by looking at the bug description and the logs, it seems that it might also happen with legacy routers. | 15:33 |
| Swami | The issue is with the ovs_agent. There is patch currently for review. | 15:34 |
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| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498598/ | 15:34 |
| Swami | Please take a look at the patch, after we fix this critical issue and when the gate is happy. | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:35 |
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| Swami | The next bug in the list is | 15:35 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1712795 | 15:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1712795 in neutron "Fail to startup neutron-l3-agent" [Undecided,New] | 15:35 |
| Swami | This bug seems to be incomplete. I don't see any issue in neutron-l3-agent processing routers. I have asked couple of questions on the branch and how it can be reproduced, but have not received any information yet. | 15:36 |
| Swami | Until then we can mark it as incomplete. | 15:36 |
| Swami | There are two other bugs that was filed against the multinode failure. | 15:37 |
| Swami | Since we have already discussed about the multinode failure, we can have the discussions next week on where we stand. | 15:37 |
| Swami | mlavalle: back to you. | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | Swami: Thanks | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | Good discussion | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | I don't have any major bugs to discuss | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open Agenda | 15:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Agenda (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:38 | |
| mlavalle | Since we have that critical DVR bug breaking the gate, let's move to Opem Sgenda | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | Agenda | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | Any other topics we should discuss today? | 15:40 |
| Swami | mlavalle: No I will keep working on the fix. | 15:40 |
| haleyb | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/drinks-with-rdo-at-the-ptg-tickets-37396477872 | 15:40 |
| haleyb | RDO release party at PTG :) | 15:41 |
| haleyb | i think that's open to all | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | But I think you need to register. I will right now | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | ok guys, thanks for attending | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "more ptg planning (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 15:42 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 31 15:42:21 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-08-31-15.00.html | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-08-31-15.00.txt | 15:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-08-31-15.00.log.html | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 15:42 |
| Swami | haleyb: thanks for the link | 15:42 |
| Swami | mlavalle: bye | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: that brewery is just a block away from the hotel. we can return crawling | 15:44 |
| mlavalle | if the need arises | 15:44 |
| haleyb | i'll leave breadcrumbs | 15:45 |
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| elmiko | #startmeeting api-sig | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 31 16:03:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is elmiko. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api-sig)" | 16:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_sig' | 16:03 |
| elmiko | anyone around for the meeting? | 16:03 |
| elmiko | gonna give this 5 minutes... | 16:05 |
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| * edleafe just got back early | 16:07 | |
| elmiko | oh nice | 16:08 |
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| elmiko | i was just about the endmeeting lol | 16:08 |
| elmiko | s/the/to/ | 16:08 |
| edleafe | you can still do that, unless you have something to add | 16:08 |
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| edleafe | Any more responses from PTLs about the API review stuff? | 16:08 |
| elmiko | not really, i don't mind pushing till next week | 16:08 |
| elmiko | no | 16:08 |
| elmiko | it's been quiet, but i plan to resend the email next week to give folks a 1 week reminder | 16:08 |
| edleafe | You should definitely hit them up again | 16:08 |
| elmiko | yeah | 16:08 |
| edleafe | I'd do it sooner rather than later | 16:09 |
| elmiko | do you think tuesday is too late? | 16:09 |
| edleafe | maybe right after the US Labor Day weekend | 16:09 |
| elmiko | maybe i should send tomorrow | 16:09 |
| edleafe | lots of people in the US will be gone by tomorrow | 16:09 |
| elmiko | #action elmiko send followup email to PTLs on september 5 | 16:10 |
| edleafe | cool | 16:10 |
| elmiko | cool | 16:10 |
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| elmiko | ok, anything else? | 16:10 |
| edleafe | maybe promise them punch and pie? | 16:11 |
| edleafe | https://goo.gl/images/LFEXZm | 16:11 |
| elmiko | haha | 16:11 |
| elmiko | oh, i thought of something we might do at the ptg if we get a slow time | 16:11 |
| elmiko | we could hold a "mock review" to use for our example | 16:11 |
| elmiko | i have an idea plumbed from the sahara history that could kick off the conversation, | 16:12 |
| elmiko | like i would play the part of someone seeking advice from the sig | 16:12 |
| edleafe | Is that a review where we mock someone's API design? | 16:12 |
| elmiko | i sure hope not... | 16:12 |
| elmiko | i had a lot of hand in the design of the sahara api, not sure my ego can handle that much mocking | 16:12 |
| edleafe | That's how you learn | 16:13 |
| elmiko | haha | 16:13 |
| edleafe | from mistakes, not mocking :) | 16:13 |
| elmiko | i feel like convincing cdent to hang out and mock me would not be difficult | 16:13 |
| edleafe | not at all | 16:14 |
| elmiko | anyways, that was my only suggestion for the ptg | 16:14 |
| edleafe | well, I don't have anything else to add | 16:15 |
| elmiko | k | 16:15 |
| elmiko | should we send a newsletter? | 16:15 |
| edleafe | I don't think so, not if there isn't any news | 16:16 |
| elmiko | i'm cool with that | 16:16 |
| elmiko | i suppose, see ya next week and have a nice holiday weekend =) | 16:16 |
| elmiko | #endmeeting | 16:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "more ptg planning (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 16:16 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 31 16:16:41 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:16 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2017/api_sig.2017-08-31-16.03.html | 16:16 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2017/api_sig.2017-08-31-16.03.txt | 16:16 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2017/api_sig.2017-08-31-16.03.log.html | 16:16 |
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| * tbachman wonders if annakk is the same as annak | 18:02 | |
| rkukura | annakk: Are you annak? | 18:02 |
| annakk | yes, hi :) | 18:02 |
| tbachman | annakk: hi! | 18:02 |
| tbachman | in disguise? ;) | 18:02 |
| annakk | accidentaly :) | 18:02 |
| tbachman | lol | 18:03 |
| tbachman | annakk: did you have anything you wanted to discuss today? | 18:03 |
| annakk | i think annak is taken but I always ignored that message, so maybe I should adopt annakk | 18:03 |
| tbachman | ah | 18:03 |
| tbachman | got it | 18:03 |
| annakk | yes, I wanted to ask about horizon | 18:03 |
| tbachman | okay | 18:04 |
| tbachman | rkukura: should we start a meeting? | 18:04 |
| rkukura | should we try to start the meeting? | 18:04 |
| tbachman | I can’t remember what name he uses? | 18:04 |
| tbachman | (he being SumitNaiksatam) | 18:04 |
| rkukura | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 31 18:04:34 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:04 |
| tbachman | rkukura: thx! | 18:04 |
| rkukura | hi tbachman, annak[k] | 18:04 |
| rkukura | So Sumit is not available today | 18:05 |
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| rkukura | annakk: Do you want to start with hour horizon question? | 18:05 |
| annakk | sure | 18:06 |
| annakk | I was trying to check out ui patches in review, and discovered half of the ui is not working for me | 18:06 |
| tbachman | :( | 18:06 |
| tbachman | annakk: is this stable/ocata? | 18:06 |
| annakk | So I wondered whether its ocata to blame, me to blame or something else.. | 18:06 |
| annakk | yes | 18:06 |
| * rkukura wonders if stable/newton still works | 18:07 | |
| annakk | did anyone try it after newton/ocata sync? | 18:07 |
| tbachman | annakk: did it work for you somewhat recently, or is this the first time you’ve tried the UI? | 18:08 |
| * tbachman has not | 18:08 | |
| tbachman | annakk: we’re working on creating a stable/ocata setup for testing | 18:08 |
| rkukura | I have not tried horizon in a long time | 18:08 |
| tbachman | but we’re not there yet | 18:08 |
| annakk | I think its the first time. I looked at it a while ago but I don't think I ever tried to create things | 18:08 |
| tbachman | I just looked at the stable/ocata merges | 18:08 |
| tbachman | ah | 18:08 |
| tbachman | wrong project | 18:08 |
| tbachman | just a sec... | 18:08 |
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| tbachman | there are no patches into stable/ocata for group-based-policy-ui | 18:09 |
| tbachman | which is interesting | 18:09 |
| rkukura | tbachman: are there any ocata sync patches in master? | 18:10 |
| tbachman | I must have made an incorrect query | 18:10 |
| tbachman | b/c I searched for merges in master and came up with nothing | 18:11 |
| annakk | there is this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483138/ | 18:11 |
| annakk | but its minimal | 18:12 |
| tbachman | there is one after it to fix a delete button | 18:12 |
| * tbachman fixed his query | 18:12 | |
| tbachman | other than that - march 16th, april 4th, may 17th | 18:12 |
| rkukura | the delete button patch needs back-porting I guess | 18:13 |
| tbachman | rkukura: ack | 18:13 |
| rkukura | wasn’t there something about an upcoming django version dropping some backward compatability we were depending on? Maybe that happended. | 18:13 |
| tbachman | rkukura: news to me | 18:14 |
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| tbachman | rkukura: was that on openstack-dev? | 18:14 |
| rkukura | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493830/ | 18:14 |
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| annakk | I think some of the patches in review deal with deprecations | 18:15 |
| rkukura | If annakk has django 1.10, that patch might fix it | 18:15 |
| annakk | OK, will try | 18:16 |
| tbachman | annakk: when you say “half of the UI” — can you elaborate? | 18:16 |
| rkukura | looks like there are a number of patches waiting review on master | 18:16 |
| rkukura | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/group-based-policy-ui,n,z | 18:17 |
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| rkukura | annakk: Are the recent ones from your team? | 18:17 |
| tbachman | ultimum.io | 18:18 |
| annakk | tbachman: I wasn't able to create groups, rule sets.. | 18:18 |
| annakk | rkukura: you mean the patches? no | 18:18 |
| tbachman | are the buttons/selectors not there? Or is that nothing happens when you try to select/use them? | 18:19 |
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| annakk | tbachman: the buttons are there, but cause errors (i don't think the request reaches our server) | 18:20 |
| tbachman | annakk: okay, that helps. Thanks! | 18:21 |
| annakk | tbachman: np. I don't understand much in UI sadly | 18:22 |
| annakk | I'll see if the patches from ultimum improve it | 18:23 |
| tbachman | annakk: sorry we don’t have a better answer for you now | 18:23 |
| annakk | tbachman: sure, I just wanted to verify I wasn't missing something | 18:23 |
| rkukura | ok, annakk, please let us know if you are using django >= 1.8, and if the recent patches help | 18:24 |
| annakk | rkukura: ok | 18:24 |
| rkukura | and we should be reviewing those a bit more proactively | 18:24 |
| tbachman | rkukura: ack | 18:24 |
| rkukura | anything else on horizon? | 18:25 |
| annakk | not from me | 18:25 |
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| rkukura | so lets discuss db migration a bit | 18:25 |
| tbachman | #topic DB migrations | 18:25 |
| tbachman | ah, I’m not chair | 18:25 |
| rkukura | #topic DB migrations | 18:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "DB migrations (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:25 | |
| tbachman | rkukura: thx! | 18:25 |
| rkukura | #chairs tbachman, rkukura, annakk | 18:26 |
| tbachman | :) | 18:26 |
| annakk | :) | 18:26 |
| rkukura | not sure if that works | 18:26 |
| tbachman | it does | 18:26 |
| tbachman | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499240/ <= gerrit where Sumit discusses options for backporting DB migrations | 18:26 |
| rkukura | as you probably know, GBP has historically been more aggressive with back-ports than most projects | 18:27 |
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| rkukura | we’ve been back-porting new features across several stable branches | 18:27 |
| rkukura | but have not been back-porting all patches to every branch | 18:28 |
| rkukura | so the result is we have different chains of DB migrations for each branch | 18:28 |
| rkukura | this works ok for updates within a stable branch | 18:28 |
| rkukura | but will result in some migrations being missed when upgrading to a new release | 18:29 |
| rkukura | I first noticed this when reviewig a mitaka back-port | 18:30 |
| rkukura | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499185/ | 18:30 |
| annakk | rkukura: by "within stable branch" do you mean upgrading to newer version of same branch? | 18:30 |
| rkukura | annakk: yes | 18:31 |
| rkukura | so the chain might make sense within stable/mitaka | 18:31 |
| annakk | but is this supposed to happen? | 18:31 |
| rkukura | and a new migration might be at the HEAD of both stable/mitaka and stable/newton | 18:31 |
| rkukura | but a migration skipped on stable/mitaka will not be run when upgrading to stable/newton, even though it is in the stable/newton chain | 18:32 |
| rkukura | I think the OpenStack stable branch policy avoids this kind of issue by forbidding schema changes, along with API changes, etc. | 18:33 |
| tbachman | forbidding *backports of* schema changes… | 18:33 |
| rkukura | tbachman: can you summarize Sumit’s proposal? | 18:33 |
| tbachman | rkukura: I can try :) | 18:33 |
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| tbachman | I believe SumitNaiksatam’s proposal is to backport all DB migrations in order to keep them consistent across stable branches | 18:34 |
| tbachman | This means care needs to be taken when creating DB migrations | 18:34 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam also said it’s possible for the DB migration to be a No-Op, if for some reason the actual migration would be determintal as a backport | 18:35 |
| rkukura | seems to me that we need to decide how to prevent issues going forward, but also need to fix the issues that already exist | 18:35 |
| annakk | tbachman: backport migrations only, without the actual feature? | 18:35 |
| tbachman | annakk: ack | 18:35 |
| rkukura | we wouldn’t want it to be a no-op, or else we’d need the real version of the migration somewhere else on the chain | 18:36 |
| annakk | are we sure all the migration are extend-like? | 18:36 |
| tbachman | annakk: they aren’t | 18:36 |
| tbachman | for example, one of the NFP patches has some more significant changes | 18:36 |
| * tbachman pulls up patch | 18:36 | |
| annakk | tbachman: isn't that a problem? | 18:36 |
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| tbachman | #link https://github.com/openstack/group-based-policy/commit/dc25f7154314d4b0d143a3f55d4ea4cc8a3eafe2#diff-9ae7c407a57ed5bb5e916dbbf4530e8b <== NFP patch, where a primary key is added and columns are altered | 18:38 |
| tbachman | annakk: that was my thought as well | 18:38 |
| tbachman | that said, I know SumitNaiksatam spent some time thinking about this | 18:38 |
| tbachman | so maybe he has some thoughts there | 18:38 |
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| tbachman | The above patch seemed to be problematic as a backport w/o code | 18:38 |
| rkukura | I doubt we can in general back port migrations without the correponding code | 18:39 |
| tbachman | we may have to shelve this discussion until next week, where SumitNaiksatam can shed some light on the issues | 18:39 |
| rkukura | shorter term, I think we need to resolve some of the current issues | 18:39 |
| rkukura | For example, there are two migrations skipped on stable/mitaka that are needed on stable/newton, but will be skipped on an upgrade | 18:40 |
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| annakk | I think someone mentioned that it we re-do a migration that already exist, it will not cause an error? | 18:41 |
| rkukura | annakk: I think migrations need to be written to handle that, for example checking if the new table or column already exists before adding it | 18:42 |
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| annakk | maybe that's a tolerable solution for short-term | 18:43 |
| tbachman | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498940/4/gbpservice/neutron/db/migration/alembic_migrations/versions/4c0c1e2c0160_ha_ip_address_to_port_id_association.py@32 <== example of checking for an existing table before applying migration | 18:43 |
| rkukura | So one option is to make the skipped migration idempotent and move it to towards the head of the chain in the newer stable branch | 18:44 |
| rkukura | I think there are 4 migrations total that are skipped on some stable branch and needed on a newer branch | 18:47 |
| tbachman | rkukura: where does that patch go in master then? | 18:47 |
| tbachman | it seems like it has to go to the point in the migration in the furthest backport | 18:48 |
| tbachman | across all branches | 18:48 |
| rkukura | tbachman: if we make a migration idempotent, I guess we should move it towards the head on all newer branches, including master | 18:48 |
| tbachman | Didn’t we say that would cause migrations to be skipped on upgrades? | 18:49 |
| tbachman | if not all branches have the same migrations? | 18:49 |
| annakk | sorry but what is the reason for aggressive backports? | 18:50 |
| rkukura | Adding a migration in the middle of chain on a stable branch doesn’t help deployments that are using that stable branch | 18:50 |
| rkukura | annakk: good question! | 18:50 |
| * tbachman thinks we need SumitNaiksatam for this answer | 18:50 | |
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| annakk | maybe we could consider changing the approach going forward.. | 18:51 |
| rkukura | annakk: we should consider that, or at least come up with a policy going forward that will prevent these issues | 18:52 |
| * tbachman notes the time | 18:52 | |
| rkukura | but we also need to fix things so that current deployments don’t break when upgrading to newer stable versions | 18:52 |
| rkukura | doesn’t seem we are going to resolve either the short term or longer term issue here right now | 18:53 |
| tbachman | rkukura: ack | 18:53 |
| annakk | ack | 18:53 |
| tbachman | I think we need SumitNaiksatam here to provide his insight/perspective on this | 18:54 |
| tbachman | we’re left guessing at his intent | 18:54 |
| tbachman | which doesn’t seem safe | 18:54 |
| rkukura | but I think we are likely to try to come up with some sort of fix for the short term problem (existing branches and migrations) over the next few days, and can discuss this on email and/or gerrit | 18:54 |
| tbachman | rkukura: sounds good | 18:54 |
| rkukura | annakk: are you ok with that? | 18:54 |
| annakk | (also with backporting we might hit issues with neutron tables, like FK to non-existing tables..) | 18:54 |
| annakk | rkukura: yes, sure | 18:55 |
| rkukura | annak: good point about FKs, etc. | 18:55 |
| rkukura | ok, anything else to cover before we wrap up? | 18:55 |
| tbachman | rkukura: nothing from me | 18:55 |
| annakk | neither from me | 18:56 |
| rkukura | ok, thanks everyone! | 18:56 |
| annakk | thanks! | 18:56 |
| rkukura | #endmeeting | 18:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "more ptg planning (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 18:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 31 18:56:33 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:56 |
| rkukura | bye | 18:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-08-31-18.04.html | 18:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-08-31-18.04.txt | 18:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-08-31-18.04.log.html | 18:56 |
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