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| njohnston | hi all | 03:59 |
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| yushiro | njohnston, hi ! | 03:59 |
| njohnston | yushiro: Hello my friend, how are you? | 03:59 |
| SarathMekala | hi all | 03:59 |
| yushiro | njohnston, fine thanks :) | 03:59 |
| njohnston | #startmeeting fwaas | 04:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 13 04:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is njohnston. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fwaas' | 04:00 |
| chandanc_ | hello all | 04:00 |
| njohnston | #chair xgerman SridarK | 04:00 |
| openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: SridarK | 04:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SridarK njohnston xgerman | 04:00 |
| xgerman | O/ | 04:00 |
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| mickeys | Hi | 04:00 |
| SridarK | Hi All | 04:00 |
| njohnston | Hello, everyone! I apologize for missing the last meeting, I was at a family gathering. Thanks xgerman for chairing! | 04:00 |
| padkrish | hi all | 04:01 |
| xgerman | Y.w. | 04:01 |
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| njohnston | Hello, SridarK! Welcome back. | 04:01 |
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| SridarK | njohnston: can u pls run the mtg - still travelling | 04:01 |
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| njohnston | SridarK: Of course | 04:01 |
| SridarK | njohnston: not sure on connectivity | 04:01 |
| njohnston | #topic announcements | 04:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:01 | |
| njohnston | Tomorrow, 7/14, is the date for N-2 | 04:02 |
| xgerman | +1 | 04:02 |
| njohnston | armax said in the last Neutron team meeting that end of August was the practical cutoff for anything that needs to into g-r, like any client commands or neutron-lib | 04:02 |
| njohnston | I don't think that affects us too badly though... hopefully. | 04:02 |
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| SridarK | some actions on vendor stuff - i will follow up on that, for cisco - i am working with some folks and will take care of it | 04:02 |
| SridarK | for varmor - will sync with s3wong | 04:03 |
| njohnston | Excellent. I saw one vendor already moved their stuff out. | 04:03 |
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| SridarK | njohnston: +1 on the Aug cut off | 04:03 |
| njohnston | #topic FWaaS v2 | 04:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "FWaaS v2 (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:03 | |
| njohnston | Let | 04:04 |
| njohnston | Let's start with Paddu, you sent out a few emails. | 04:04 |
| njohnston | padkrish | 04:04 |
| padkrish | njohnston# yes, to summarize, i was asking if we can combine the versioned object patch with the infra changes like queue | 04:05 |
| padkrish | sorry, like notification driver manager, notification queue etc like what's there for QoS | 04:05 |
| SridarK | padkrish: also is the plan that there is a good common chunk across L2 and L3 ? | 04:06 |
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| njohnston | padkrish: Is it going well? Do you feel close to having a change you can put into gerrit? | 04:06 |
| padkrish | this portion should be common, what from whatever i can see...others can correct me... | 04:06 |
| padkrish | i will try to put a WIP by this week | 04:06 |
| padkrish | still unit test code is not there yet | 04:07 |
| njohnston | padkrish: Thanks, I look forward to seeing it | 04:07 |
| SridarK | padkrish: there could be some differences based on L2 or L3 port differences | 04:07 |
| njohnston | padkrish: Don't wait on getting unit tests done, put it up there and perhaps we can help with unit tests | 04:07 |
| padkrish | njohnston# sure, me too ;) | 04:07 |
| SridarK | padkrish: if it is easier - u can also commonize as a refactor | 04:07 |
| padkrish | njohnston# absolutely, thats the plan | 04:08 |
| SridarK | as the next step | 04:08 |
| njohnston | ok, good. | 04:08 |
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| padkrish | SridarK# sure, it certainly needs to be refactored...since i don't believe we need separate notif mgrs/queues for QoS and FWaaS | 04:08 |
| SridarK | padkrish: ok | 04:08 |
| njohnston | SarathMekala and chandanc_: How is your work going? | 04:09 |
| padkrish | but, i need to think through this a bit more...may be as a first step, let's have it separate to get the functionality in? | 04:09 |
| SridarK | padkrish: i think that is reasonable | 04:09 |
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| yushiro | padkrish, would you please sync with me after discussion? Maybe I think its affect to my WIP. | 04:10 |
| SarathMekala | We hit some issues where SG and FW were clobbering the ACCEPT rules of each other | 04:10 |
| chandanc_ | njohnston: we are at the second patch for the iptables manager. | 04:10 |
| padkrish | yushiro# sure... | 04:10 |
| njohnston | chandanc_: I see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333338/ doesn't look like it's had anything happen in July... anything we can do to help? | 04:10 |
| yushiro | padkrish, Thanks. | 04:10 |
| SarathMekala | and a new solution which solves both the clobbering and ordering issues was arrived at | 04:10 |
| SarathMekala | the same has been updated in the doc | 04:11 |
| SridarK | SarathMekala: that is good | 04:11 |
| njohnston | SarathMekala: Excellent! | 04:11 |
| mickeys | The mechanism in the doc looks like it will work, so you have all the ideas that you need to make it work. I don't think the actual organization of the chains is nailed down yet. | 04:12 |
| mickeys | Did you have code changes around the last idea? | 04:12 |
| chandanc_ | I have one comments from Sarath, do you have any review comments ? any enhancement ? | 04:12 |
| mickeys | I replied by email directly. | 04:12 |
| SarathMekala | we will work on the idea this week.. and post a WIP review | 04:13 |
| mickeys | Regarding the chains themselves, the jump from FORWARD to neutron-openvswi-FORWARD happens in IptablesManager. I don't think you can change that. You have to work with it or around it. | 04:13 |
| njohnston | Next, yushiro please tell us how your WIP is going? | 04:14 |
| SarathMekala | thanks Mickey... will check it out today | 04:15 |
| yushiro | njohnston, yes, currently, my patch is slow progress(sorry...) Yesterday, I've just updated my patch for reflecting chandanc_ and SarathMekala's comment. | 04:15 |
| njohnston | I haven't seen shwetaap recently, I will probably ping her change to see how it's going | 04:17 |
| njohnston | SridarK: I know you're travelling, any thoughts on your end-to-end testing? | 04:17 |
| SridarK | njohnston: i think she had made some progress b4 i left on PTO | 04:17 |
| SridarK | njohnston: yes i have some changes to the db patch - was trying to get this to a logical point and push some code up | 04:18 |
| SridarK | i am trying to create a firewall - group | 04:18 |
| SridarK | but last week things have been tough for me to get something done | 04:18 |
| SridarK | i will target to find some time this week to get that taken care off | 04:18 |
| SridarK | and i am back home on Tue | 04:19 |
| SridarK | next week | 04:19 |
| njohnston | SridarK: OK. Please let us know if there is any part of it that we can handle while you're out. | 04:19 |
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| njohnston | or that you could transition to us, to keep the velocity going | 04:20 |
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| SridarK | njohnston: on the db patch once i push a skeleton up for Create - u will have some work | 04:20 |
| SridarK | njohnston: will do | 04:20 |
| njohnston | SridarK: Sounds good - push to the db change as soon as you feel comfortable. | 04:20 |
| SridarK | njohnston: ok thx | 04:20 |
| njohnston | OK, did I miss anyone? | 04:21 |
| njohnston | OK, moving on then. | 04:22 |
| njohnston | #topic L3 aget extension | 04:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "L3 aget extension (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:22 | |
| njohnston | The first patch, to make the l2 agent extension framework generic, looks like it is close: https://review.openstack.org/329701 | 04:22 |
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| njohnston | ajo and ihrachys both said nice things about it | 04:23 |
| SridarK | njohnston: great | 04:23 |
| yushiro | njohnston, awesome! | 04:23 |
| SridarK | njohnston: on the L3 agent - just before the long week - had a call with padkrish and mfranc213_ - to go over fwaas L3 things | 04:23 |
| SridarK | njohnston: i think i have answered all open questions on that front | 04:24 |
| njohnston | SridarK: Yes, I believe you have, and mfranc213_ and I have been working since then :-) | 04:24 |
| njohnston | it was very helpful, mfranc213_ told me | 04:24 |
| SridarK | njohnston: great - let me know if there are any missing pieces and we can talk | 04:24 |
| njohnston | But that change doesn't change much code, it just rearranges code that is there. I have filed the second patch in the sequence, https://review.openstack.org/339246/ "Implement L3 Agent Extension Manager", to add the new code | 04:24 |
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| SridarK | njohnston: i believe so too - | 04:25 |
| SridarK | njohnston: i will look at this change set | 04:25 |
| yushiro | njohnston, If your patch(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339246) will be merged, l3 agent extension is also necessary at FWaaS side, isn't it? | 04:26 |
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| njohnston | yushiro: Yes; this is just the code on the agent side, the last part is the code on the FWaaS side to plug in to the agent's extension capability | 04:26 |
| njohnston | yushiro: Am I recalling correctly that you were working on that? | 04:26 |
| yushiro | njohnston, Yes. I'm trying to push L3 agent side patch. But I'm not sure about other resources dependency. | 04:27 |
| njohnston | yushiro: Just push your patch, and then let's work on resolving the dependencies together. :-) | 04:28 |
| yushiro | njohnston, Sure:) I'll push ASAP. However, I'd like to sync some works with you and padkrish. Would you have some time to discuss after this IRC meeting? | 04:29 |
| njohnston | yushiro: sure, I'll be awake for a little while :-) | 04:29 |
| padkrish | yushiro# sure | 04:29 |
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| njohnston | ok | 04:30 |
| njohnston | #topic client | 04:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "client (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:30 | |
| njohnston | Given that the client libraries close earlier than the others, I wanted to checkpoint and see for FWaaS v2 if we have a need to get client commands in place | 04:31 |
| njohnston | Because if so we need to start putting effort into that very soon | 04:31 |
| SridarK | njohnston: we will need to | 04:31 |
| SridarK | njohnston: as our resource definitions have changed | 04:31 |
| njohnston | OK; I know that the change to make poython-neutronclient a plugin for openstack client either just merged or is about to | 04:32 |
| njohnston | so we should get that change going in python-neutronclient soon | 04:32 |
| SridarK | njohnston: are we allowed to make client changes before we have the backend in place ? | 04:32 |
| njohnston | SridarK: We should be working on it in tandem, so the client change is ready. I can tell you from experience, that no matter the state of the back-end, if we hit the early library freeze date and the client stuff is not merged, then the feature won't get into Newton, full-stop | 04:33 |
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| SridarK | njohnston: that i agree completely | 04:34 |
| SridarK | but now should the library freeze date be the date for us to make sure we have some parts of the backend in place | 04:34 |
| SridarK | if we are allowed to have the client pieces in with some stubs or no backend then that can proceed to completion | 04:35 |
| njohnston | yes, it should be the target date for at least a basic end-to-end so the CLI has something to use | 04:35 |
| SridarK | njohnston: ok | 04:35 |
| njohnston | So SridarK knows what changes need to happen at the CLI level, does anyone else have that knowledge so we can start working on this? | 04:35 |
| * njohnston respects Sridar's PTO | 04:36 | |
| SridarK | njohnston: essentially the spec should outline this | 04:36 |
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| SridarK | njohnston: but some with some CLI experience can help us push things faster so we know how to plug in to the basic structure | 04:37 |
| SridarK | *someone with CLI experience ^^ | 04:37 |
| njohnston | I have a little, I can jump in and at least start roughing it in in a few days unless someone jumps in before me | 04:38 |
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| SridarK | maybe if a few of us get together to figure this out and then whoever has bandwidth can jump in | 04:39 |
| SridarK | i am open to spending half a day with anyone next week after i am back | 04:39 |
| SridarK | to get a feel for the basic structure | 04:39 |
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| njohnston | Sounds good. Whoever wants to, drop your name on the "client" section of the agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fwaas-meeting | 04:39 |
| njohnston | and we'll figure out a time that works for all | 04:40 |
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| SridarK | njohnston: i can help u if someone is not picking this up this week | 04:40 |
| SridarK | njohnston: perfect | 04:40 |
| yushiro | njohnston, SridarK I'd like to help it. Please let me call. | 04:40 |
| SarathMekala | If we can make some progress on the driver area .. I can chip in a bit.. | 04:40 |
| SridarK | ok perfect | 04:40 |
| njohnston | Excellent, I love the interest! :-) | 04:40 |
| njohnston | OK, we will talk about it again next meeting, since you will have just returned, yes? | 04:41 |
| njohnston | ^ SridarK | 04:41 |
| SridarK | njohnston: yes | 04:41 |
| SridarK | i get back on next Tue afternoon | 04:41 |
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| njohnston | #topic Open Discussion | 04:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:42 | |
| njohnston | Schedule reminders: yushiro will be out for the 7/20 meeting, and I will be out for the 7/27 meeting | 04:42 |
| SridarK | njohnston: thx | 04:42 |
| chandanc_ | i will be out next week | 04:42 |
| yushiro | njohnston, Thanks. | 04:42 |
| SridarK | shall we talk abt the virtual coding sprint | 04:43 |
| mickeys | You all might want to check out https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1577488 | 04:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1577488 in neutron "[RFE]"Fast exit" for compute node egress flows when using DVR" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 04:43 |
| mickeys | The way the discussion was going at the end, late May, early June, they are leaning towards moving away from symmetric routing of the gateway port in DVR. | 04:43 |
| mickeys | That means even the gateway router port will not work for FWaaS (v1 or v2) with DVR | 04:44 |
| mickeys | East/west router ports have long been a lost cause | 04:44 |
| mickeys | VIF ports will always work with DVR | 04:44 |
| SridarK | mickeys: thx hmm that will be a problem | 04:44 |
| SridarK | although right now v1 does not use the gw port - uses all the internal router ports | 04:45 |
| njohnston | mickeys: Thanks, that is good to track | 04:45 |
| mickeys | For DVR? I thought it was only the gateway port? | 04:45 |
| SridarK | but that could be a problem as well | 04:45 |
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| SridarK | v1 puts the rules on qr* | 04:46 |
| SridarK | of the specified router | 04:46 |
| mickeys | Internal router ports are asymmetric, conntrack would only see one direction of traffic | 04:46 |
| yushiro | mickeys, correct. | 04:47 |
| SridarK | on E - W | 04:47 |
| njohnston | Yeah, tough to tell between an established connection and a maliciously spoofed established connection when you only see one side of the conversation | 04:47 |
| mickeys | I thought you changed v1 so that it is internal router ports for centralized, but gateway port for DVR? | 04:47 |
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| SridarK | no we did not use gw ports because of pre NAT post NAT specification of ip | 04:48 |
| SridarK | there was some talk on that | 04:48 |
| mickeys | FIP? | 04:48 |
| SridarK | yes | 04:48 |
| mickeys | With fast exit, you won't have symmetry across FIP either | 04:48 |
| SridarK | so the change was to target only the ns on the network node | 04:48 |
| SridarK | mickeys: yes will need to look more into this - thx for ptr | 04:49 |
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| njohnston | ok, so back to the topic of the virtual sprint | 04:50 |
| SridarK | yes | 04:50 |
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| njohnston | I know we talked about a possible time period for it, but I don't recall when that was | 04:50 |
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| SridarK | i think a 2 or 3 1/2 day type thing could work well | 04:50 |
| njohnston | agreed | 04:50 |
| SridarK | we can have a couple of them over the next weeks | 04:50 |
| SridarK | njohnston: i think u are out week of 7/25 ? | 04:51 |
| SridarK | i think chandanc_ is out week of 7/18 ? | 04:51 |
| njohnston | how soon do you think we can start? Is like 7/21 to 7/22 too early, if we're going to try for more than one? | 04:51 |
| chandanc_ | yes sridark | 04:52 |
| SridarK | i was initially thinking 7/21, 7/22 | 04:52 |
| njohnston | Yes, I am out the entire weel of 7/25 to 7/29. But if you can make progress without me please don't let me stop you! :-) | 04:52 |
| njohnston | s/weel/week/g | 04:52 |
| SridarK | before njohnston heads out on PTO | 04:52 |
| njohnston | How does everyone feel about that? Who would be interested in attending? | 04:53 |
| SridarK | may be we can keep that, at least to shake up things on the db, plugin agent | 04:53 |
| SridarK | so it is ok if chandanc_ is out | 04:53 |
| njohnston | I'll put up an etherpad for it, and send it out on email, so people can put their names on if they are interested | 04:54 |
| SridarK | I am up for this for sure, with njohnston mfranc213_ padkrish yushiro and shwetaap | 04:54 |
| padkrish | njohnston# +1 | 04:54 |
| njohnston | and we can outline what we want to get accomplished there as well | 04:54 |
| SridarK | we could move things | 04:54 |
| yushiro | +1 | 04:54 |
| SridarK | then on the follwing sprint we can work thru the driver pieces | 04:54 |
| njohnston | #action njohnston to put up an etherpad for 7/21-22 virtual sprint, and send it out on email, so people can put their names on if they are interested | 04:55 |
| SridarK | it does not have to be too formal - just a block of time - where we all can focus and be available to each other for questions | 04:55 |
| SridarK | njohnston: +1 | 04:55 |
| njohnston | Excellent! Well, we have 3.5 minutes left, does anyone have anything else? | 04:56 |
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| padkrish | very fundamental :), do we have a NoOP driver, if not do we require one? | 04:56 |
| SridarK | Apologies have to take care of multiple things on this bit of travel and have struggled to stay connected with almost continuous travel. | 04:57 |
| njohnston | interesting question, padkrish. AFAIK we do not have such a driver. | 04:57 |
| xgerman | No | 04:57 |
| SridarK | Look fwd to get back. | 04:57 |
| njohnston | Safe travels, SridarK! | 04:57 |
| xgerman | But I think we are good without | 04:57 |
| SridarK | padkrish: i think not too - if we are not configured then no effect. | 04:57 |
| yushiro | SridarK, have a good travels :) | 04:57 |
| SridarK | xgerman: +1 | 04:58 |
| SridarK | Thx | 04:58 |
| xgerman | Njohns | 04:58 |
| xgerman | Safe travels | 04:58 |
| SridarK | thx | 04:58 |
| SridarK | xgerman: now a midwesterner ? :-) | 04:58 |
| padkrish | sridarK, xgerman# ok, thanks...thought, will help in testing...but agree, there are other ways..LBaaS used to have a NoOP... | 04:58 |
| njohnston | xgerman: At the end of the month? I'm not going anywhere, just volunteering for the county fair. :-) | 04:59 |
| xgerman | Yes' | 04:59 |
| SridarK | njohnston: watch out for all that food | 04:59 |
| SridarK | :-) | 04:59 |
| xgerman | LBaaS did to make driver development easier | 04:59 |
| njohnston | SridarK: I will try, but history says I will not be very successful. | 04:59 |
| njohnston | #endmeeting | 05:00 |
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| SridarK | :-) | 05:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 13 05:00:02 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-07-13-04.00.html | 05:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-07-13-04.00.txt | 05:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-07-13-04.00.log.html | 05:00 |
| SridarK | Bye all | 05:00 |
| xgerman | Bye | 05:00 |
| padkrish | bye | 05:00 |
| chandanc_ | Bye | 05:00 |
| mickeys | bye | 05:00 |
| yushiro | bye bye | 05:00 |
| njohnston | yushiro: Let's hop on #openstack-fwaas to chat | 05:00 |
| yushiro | Yes. Sure. | 05:00 |
| SarathMekala | bye | 05:00 |
| yushiro | njohnston, padkrish #openstack-fwaas | 05:00 |
| yushiro | Jump! | 05:00 |
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| anil_rao | #startmeeting taas | 05:30 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 13 05:30:10 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anil_rao. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:30 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 05:30 |
| soichi | hi | 05:30 |
| anil_rao | Hi | 05:30 |
| kaz | hi | 05:30 |
| anil_rao | #topic Finalize and submit Barcelona Summit Presentation proposal | 05:31 |
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| reedip | hi | 05:31 |
| anil_rao | Hi | 05:32 |
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| soichi | reedip: hi | 05:32 |
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| soichi | reedip: thank you for your modification to abstract | 05:32 |
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| anil_rao | soichi,reedip: I just saw your suggested modifications to the abstract | 05:32 |
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| yamamot__ | hi | 05:33 |
| reedip | soichi: it was minor | 05:33 |
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| reedip | hi yamamot__ | 05:33 |
| anil_rao | one thing to keep in mind is that we have a 1000 character limit. The one I sent out yesterday was alerady at 995 chars. | 05:33 |
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| anil_rao | I'll reword it some more tomorrow and incorporate the changes from both of you. | 05:33 |
| anil_rao | Hi yamamot__ | 05:34 |
| soichi | anil_rao: my proposal is minor modification, so you can ignore it | 05:34 |
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| anil_rao | soichi: I think I can include it because it is a nice point. I'll just changes the words a little bit to make it all fit in 1000 chars. :-) | 05:35 |
| soichi | thank you | 05:35 |
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| soichi | we need to ansewer two questions: | 05:36 |
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| -soichi- What is the problem or use case you're addressing in this session? | 05:36 | |
| anil_rao | Yes, let's discuss this a bit. | 05:36 |
| reedip | lemme try and reword it | 05:36 |
| soichi | 1) What is the problem or use case you're addressing in this session? | 05:36 |
| anil_rao | Reedip, I have it done mostly. so I'll make final adjustments just before submitting tomorrow morning. :-) | 05:37 |
| reedip | Umm, okay :) | 05:37 |
| anil_rao | soichi: We will elaborate that section by listing the following items. | 05:37 |
| reedip | anil_rao: I have shared the speaker details on the email (JFYI) | 05:38 |
| anil_rao | 1. The plugin/agent/driver architecture which allows platform specific and vendor extension to be implemented. | 05:38 |
| anil_rao | reedip: Thanks you. :-) | 05:38 |
| anil_rao | 2. The need for isolation between production and mirrored traffic in the underlay network and some techniques to address this. | 05:38 |
| anil_rao | 3. Performance analysis and lessons learnt from it. Steps to improve performance going forward. | 05:39 |
| anil_rao | Any other thoughts? | 05:39 |
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| soichi | It looks fine for me. | 05:41 |
| reedip | We should keep it light enough. Going to omuch into technicality can overload the users and operators in the audience | 05:41 |
| reedip | so I think we can keep the information limited the ones specified above | 05:42 |
| anil_rao | reedip: sounds good. | 05:42 |
| anil_rao | For the section on what attendees expect to learn, I was thinking about the following: | 05:43 |
| anil_rao | 1. Discover that the TaaS architecture lends itself to multiple backend solutions to meet different needs. | 05:44 |
| anil_rao | 2. Several service providers had indicated an interest in having a completely separate data path for monitored traffic. So now they can learn about how this may be achieved. | 05:44 |
| anil_rao | Others can also learn why separating the production and mirrored traffic can be beneficial for them. | 05:45 |
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| anil_rao | 3. The performance analysis is long overdue. We have been asked about TaaS performance during both our previous presentations. | 05:45 |
| vnyyad | are we going to provide a demo this time? oor a prersentation | 05:46 |
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| anil_rao | vnyyad: I think we can skip a demo but provide real data from performance experiments. | 05:46 |
| vnyyad | ok. | 05:46 |
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| anil_rao | what do you think? | 05:47 |
| soichi | anil_rao: agree | 05:47 |
| kaz | sounds good for me | 05:47 |
| yamamot__ | anil_rao: sounds good | 05:47 |
| vnyyad | yes i guess going into more tech detaill of the solution to get more people develop back ends might be good | 05:47 |
| anil_rao | vnyyad: Yes will have a section on the plugin/agent/driver architecture showing how it facilitates writing vendor/platform specific backends. | 05:48 |
| vnyyad | that will be great | 05:48 |
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| soichi | +1 | 05:49 |
| anil_rao | Well, let's hope we get picked. :-) | 05:50 |
| soichi | sure | 05:50 |
| vnyyad | In the interest of full disclosure, we from Ericsson in partner with a customer have also submitted a tech talk on applying TaaS to monitor in Telco NFV | 05:50 |
| soichi | it sounds great! | 05:50 |
| vnyyad | but its purely application of taas as a solution | 05:50 |
| vnyyad | its in the telco track | 05:51 |
| anil_rao | vnyyd: We are submitting in the Network section so having a TaaS presentation in the Telco section is great! | 05:51 |
| vnyyad | yes.... that would be great! | 05:51 |
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| vnyyad | we will have more representation one on the technical siide and the other on application of it | 05:52 |
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| soichi | i think it is very noce to have a actical use case | 05:52 |
| soichi | noce -> nice | 05:52 |
| anil_rao | +1 | 05:52 |
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| anil_rao | soichi,kaz: Do you want to discuss the perf results you had posted a few weeks back? | 05:53 |
| kaz | excuse me, we can not have a time for prepearaton, so we would like to discuss next week. | 05:54 |
| anil_rao | kaz: Sure, no problem. We can cover that topic next week. | 05:54 |
| kaz | thank you. | 05:55 |
| vnyyad | i guess we should also bring up the agenda of separating data path for Taas in the comming metings as well | 05:56 |
| soichi | sure | 05:56 |
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| soichi | currently, Kaz is working to implement by using flow based tunneling | 05:57 |
| vnyyad | thanks! | 05:57 |
| vnyyad | that is good | 05:58 |
| vnyyad | does that involve any tunneling protocol like GRE or VxLAN | 05:58 |
| kaz | VXLAN | 05:59 |
| vnyyad | ok thanks Kaz | 05:59 |
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| vnyyad | so i guess the idea is to setup tunnels out of band to the existing overlay tunnels | 05:59 |
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| soichi | i'm not sure, we will explain our design in next week IRC | 06:01 |
| vnyyad | anil: sorry for hijacking the discussion, please continue the agenda as proposed | 06:01 |
| vnyyad | soichi: sure... thanks | 06:01 |
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| anil_rao | vnyyad: Our remaining agenda for today is Open Discussion so this is appropriate | 06:02 |
| anil_rao | #topic Open Discussion | 06:02 |
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| vnyyad | We will also be working on a TaaS driver for VLAN based neutron network | 06:03 |
| vnyyad | so i guess a separate tunnel based datapath would be good to have for that as well | 06:04 |
| anil_rao | vnyyad: Yes. | 06:04 |
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| anil_rao | We need to consider TaaS requirements from two angles: | 06:07 |
| anil_rao | 1. Using the existing tunnels or separate tunnels for the overlay | 06:07 |
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| anil_rao | 2. Using existing interfaces or separate interfaces (and possibly a separate switching fabric) for the underly. | 06:08 |
| vnyyad | anil_rao: +1 | 06:08 |
| kaz | +1 | 06:08 |
| vnyyad | i guess flexibility to have both is the best | 06:08 |
| soichi | +1 | 06:08 |
| kaz | +1 | 06:08 |
| anil_rao | In some cases, it might be shared at one level but isolated at the other. In some cases it might be shared in both or even isolated in both. | 06:09 |
| vnyyad | +1 | 06:11 |
| soichi | I have another topic. | 06:13 |
| anil_rao | Sure. | 06:13 |
| soichi | I think we need to examine the bug(?) report: | 06:13 |
| soichi | #link: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/098606.html | 06:13 |
| anil_rao | soichi: I am not sure if this happens when both VMs are on the same host. I know we have a problem when using a single-node setup and trying to reach a VM from outside the host. | 06:14 |
| anil_rao | soichi,kaz: I wanted to ask you this. Since your perf tests are done on a single node setup and you are passing traffic between two VMs on the same host you have it working correctly. | 06:15 |
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| kaz | we modified a flow of TapFlow to disable "dl_vlan=..." | 06:18 |
| anil_rao | kaz: Thanks! | 06:18 |
| anil_rao | Let me look into this problem. | 06:18 |
| soichi | okay, thank you. | 06:19 |
| vnyyad | thanks | 06:19 |
| anil_rao | FYI, we are using the vlan check here because we didn't want to assume that mac address are unique across virtual networks that may be sharing a host. | 06:19 |
| soichi | thank you for your information | 06:20 |
| vnyyad | anil: +1 | 06:21 |
| anil_rao | I'll check this out and if there is a problem try to get it fixed. | 06:21 |
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| soichi | we will report if we find something new | 06:22 |
| anil_rao | soichi: Thanks | 06:23 |
| vnyyad | thanks | 06:23 |
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| soichi | i have no more topic. | 06:26 |
| anil_rao | Look forward to next week's meeting to discuss perf and separate data-path for TaaS | 06:26 |
| soichi | sure | 06:27 |
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| anil_rao | #endmeeting | 06:29 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 13 06:29:18 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-07-13-05.30.html | 06:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-07-13-05.30.txt | 06:29 |
| anil_rao | Bye | 06:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-07-13-05.30.log.html | 06:29 |
| soichi | i hope we will have TaaS presentations in Barcelona!! | 06:29 |
| yamamot__ | bye | 06:29 |
| soichi | bye | 06:29 |
| vnyyad | bye all | 06:29 |
| kaz | bye | 06:29 |
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| claudiub | #startmeeting hyper-v | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 13 13:00:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is claudiub. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 13:00 |
| atuvenie_ | Hi all | 13:00 |
| claudiub | hello | 13:00 |
| abalutoiu | hi | 13:00 |
| claudiub | such a lovely day today | 13:00 |
| ypen | Hi | 13:01 |
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| c64cosmin | o/ | 13:01 |
| claudiub | ok, I think we've waited enough for people to join | 13:02 |
| sagar_nikam | Hi | 13:02 |
| claudiub | #topic nova feature freeze | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "nova feature freeze (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:02 | |
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| claudiub | soo, typically nova feature freeze happens in the milestone N-2. | 13:02 |
| claudiub | which is in 2 days. | 13:03 |
| claudiub | there is only one more patch that was deemed worthy of a feature freeze exception, which is the hyper-v device tagging. | 13:03 |
| claudiub | #link hyper-v device tagging: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331889/ | 13:03 |
| claudiub | so, I'm expecting it to merge in the following days. | 13:04 |
| claudiub | other than that, everything is pretty much frozen. | 13:04 |
| sagar_nikam | cluster driver and FC in O release now ? | 13:05 |
| sagar_nikam | correct | 13:05 |
| claudiub | it seems that the hyper-v ovs vif plug driver would be considered an "os-vif" priority, so we can still hope on merging that. | 13:05 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: indeed. for the cluster driver it seems that we'll have to have a conversation with nova core about it next week at the midcycle. | 13:05 |
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| claudiub | anyways. IMO, there were quite a few patches merged in the hyper-v driver in newton, so I'd say it was a productive cycle in this regard. | 13:07 |
| claudiub | \o/ | 13:07 |
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| lpetrut | Hi guys | 13:07 |
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| sagar_nikam | claudiub: agree.. quite a bit of hyperv patches merged | 13:08 |
| claudiub | we'll probably have to submit new blueprints and features for O, otherwise that "nova hyper-v priority list" might get too empty. :) | 13:08 |
| claudiub | moving on. | 13:08 |
| claudiub | #topic networking-hyperv status | 13:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "networking-hyperv status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:09 | |
| claudiub | #action lpetrut atuvenie_ to review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328210/ | 13:09 |
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| claudiub | other than that, there are no other outstanding commits. | 13:10 |
| claudiub | #topic designate status | 13:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "designate status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:10 | |
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| claudiub | there has been some reviews on the patch, but mostly os-win 1.1.0 had to be released. | 13:11 |
| claudiub | still have to. | 13:11 |
| claudiub | os-win 1.1.0 wasn't released yet as there was a bug that we had to take care of it first. | 13:11 |
| claudiub | that has been dealt with, will request release again. thus, the designate patch won't be blocked on this. | 13:12 |
| claudiub | abalutoiu: anything else to add? | 13:12 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub: designate is planned for newton ? | 13:13 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: yep. | 13:13 |
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| sagar_nikam | ok ... nice | 13:13 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: only nova and cinder have the feature freeze in the milestone N-2. | 13:13 |
| abalutoiu | claudiub not really, I'm fixing the comments now, and I'm going to do some tests with python 3.4 as well | 13:13 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: the rest of the projects have feature freeze somewhere close to N-3 | 13:13 |
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| claudiub | abalutoiu: cool, thanks. :) | 13:14 |
| claudiub | moving on. | 13:14 |
| claudiub | #topic os-brick status | 13:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "os-brick status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:14 | |
| claudiub | seems we are blocked here. | 13:14 |
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| claudiub | the cinder core want to have a voting ci before they merge any more patches, it seems. | 13:15 |
| claudiub | sooo, getting the ci up and running will be a must. | 13:15 |
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| sagar_nikam | we have the CI setup | 13:16 |
| sagar_nikam | already at microsoft | 13:16 |
| sagar_nikam | where 3par is available | 13:16 |
| sagar_nikam | is that not in use for the os-brick ci ? | 13:17 |
| claudiub | but that might take some time. seems that some infra upgrades will be necessary for it | 13:17 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:18 |
| sagar_nikam | so till that time, we cant get os-brick merged ? | 13:18 |
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| claudiub | sagar_nikam: from what I've talked with the ci team, setting up a new ci for a new project isn't that easy. | 13:18 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: yep. | 13:18 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:18 |
| sagar_nikam | so this will also move to O | 13:19 |
| sagar_nikam | now | 13:19 |
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| sagar_nikam | hopefully we have the CI by that time | 13:19 |
| claudiub | not necessarely. still hoping for N. | 13:19 |
| claudiub | but this is something I have little control over. | 13:20 |
| sagar_nikam | that would be good .. if it is N | 13:20 |
| claudiub | I'll help however I can though. | 13:20 |
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| sagar_nikam | claudiub: thank you | 13:20 |
| claudiub | np. :) | 13:20 |
| claudiub | #topic open discussion | 13:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:20 | |
| sagar_nikam | monasac | 13:21 |
| sagar_nikam | wanted some discussion on monasca | 13:21 |
| sagar_nikam | how is it going ? | 13:21 |
| sagar_nikam | are the patches reviewed and merged ? | 13:21 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: yeah. no updates there I'm afraid. I was the person responsible for that project, didn't have the time to keep working on it, since I've allocated all my time to nova, getting things merged. | 13:22 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: will have to resume, now that nova is frozen. :) | 13:22 |
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| sagar_nikam | claudiub: no problem.... | 13:23 |
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| sagar_nikam | let us know when it is ready | 13:23 |
| sagar_nikam | we will pick and check it | 13:23 |
| claudiub | also, another note. | 13:23 |
| claudiub | #note claudiub won't attend next week's meeting, due to the nova midcycle event | 13:23 |
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| sagar_nikam | are we having the meeting next week ? | 13:24 |
| sagar_nikam | also one more question on monasca ... is it planned for N ? | 13:24 |
| claudiub | so, someone else will have to chair the meeting next week. | 13:25 |
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| claudiub | sagar_nikam: if there are people attending, yes. | 13:25 |
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| claudiub | sagar_nikam: yes, still planned for N. :) | 13:25 |
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| sagar_nikam | if required... we can not have it next week... if lot of your team members will attend the mid-cycle... | 13:26 |
| sagar_nikam | i can attend the meeting, if it is there | 13:26 |
| sagar_nikam | ok... monasca planned for N... nice, we will pick up as soon as it is available | 13:26 |
| claudiub | well, we can post-pone next week's meeting to the next-next one. | 13:27 |
| claudiub | anyways, any more topics for today? :) | 13:28 |
| ypen_ | anybody has information of the cassandra database development? | 13:28 |
| sagar_nikam | yes... 2 more topics from me... | 13:29 |
| claudiub | ypen_: well, we don't have anything related to cassandra. or at least, not directly. | 13:29 |
| sagar_nikam | cluster driver ... iscsi supprt, any more discussion since we last chatted on this | 13:29 |
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| atuvenie | sagar_nikam: not really | 13:30 |
| atuvenie | sagar_nikam: I've talked with alessandro, but this is something we need to put some thought into | 13:31 |
| ypen_ | What I mean is the plugin metric database | 13:31 |
| sagar_nikam | atunenie: sure... thanks for the update | 13:31 |
| atuvenie | sagar_nikam: for the moment I'm working on containers, and haven't focused that much on the cluster part | 13:31 |
| sagar_nikam | atuvenie: ok .... is iscsi support for cluster planned in N ? | 13:31 |
| sagar_nikam | atleast in compute-hyperv ? | 13:32 |
| claudiub | ypen_: you mean like, cassandra database metrics? | 13:32 |
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| atuvenie | sagar_nikam: I think at this point that having a custom cluster provider will be the way to go, but we have to analyse the full impact of that | 13:32 |
| ypen_ | yes | 13:32 |
| ypen_ | we can help if nobody is responsible for that | 13:32 |
| sagar_nikam | atuvenie: custom cluster provider .... some more info please... this is new to me | 13:33 |
| claudiub | ypen_: that sounds like something that should be brought up to the monasca meeting. This is the hyper-v meeting. :) | 13:33 |
| claudiub | ypen_: the monasca meeting is in 90 minutes, if I'm not mistaken. | 13:33 |
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| atuvenie | sagar_nikam: we talked about it at the last meeting | 13:33 |
| ypen_ | Deutsche telekom | 13:33 |
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| sagar_nikam | ok... the same... i will check it again | 13:34 |
| ypen_ | Sorry about this. this is our first time | 13:34 |
| atuvenie | sagar_nikam: we said we considered writing a custom provider for MSFT cluster that will take care of loging targets when a failover is triggered | 13:34 |
| claudiub | ypen_: no problem. :) | 13:34 |
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| sagar_nikam | atuvenie: thanks... keep us posted on how things progress, we can check and let you know | 13:37 |
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| claudiub | anything else for today? | 13:37 |
| claudiub | just fyi, the dealine for the openstack summit talks and presentations is pretty close. if you have any presentations you want to submit, you'll have to hurry. :) | 13:38 |
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| sagar_nikam | yes | 13:40 |
| claudiub | well, if there's nothing else, will close this meeting soon. :) | 13:40 |
| sagar_nikam | one final topic.... freerdp... as of now it is on hold... correct ? | 13:41 |
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| sagar_nikam | the bug we raised | 13:41 |
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| claudiub | c64cosmin: hello. it is your time to shine. :) | 13:41 |
| sagar_nikam | it will be worked later | 13:41 |
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| c64cosmin_ | sagar: Yes, I haven't forgot about you guys | 13:42 |
| sagar_nikam | c64cosmin: thanks ... | 13:42 |
| c64cosmin_ | unfortunately work on FreeRDP-WebCOnnect is delayed a bit | 13:42 |
| c64cosmin_ | but will come back right to it, when I can, no worries | 13:43 |
| sagar_nikam | the reason i asked... since this is postponed, we will also start on other things | 13:43 |
| c64cosmin_ | sounds reasonable | 13:43 |
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| sagar_nikam | will let my QA team member know about it.. so that he can test other features | 13:43 |
| sagar_nikam | just for our planning | 13:43 |
| c64cosmin_ | I will write to you to skype when I have news | 13:43 |
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| sagar_nikam | c64cosmin: sure... thanks... so we will stop freerdp till you get back to us... and we focus on other hyperv checks | 13:44 |
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| claudiub | well, if there's nothing else, we can end it soon. :) | 13:45 |
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| sagar_nikam | claudiub: have you seen this https://github.com/python-beaver/python-beaver ? | 13:45 |
| sagar_nikam | this is for sending any logs to logstash | 13:46 |
| sagar_nikam | nova-compute logs etc | 13:46 |
| claudiub | no, I haven't, but it certainly has a funny description. :D | 13:46 |
| sagar_nikam | can be sent to logstash using rabbitmq or kafka | 13:47 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: kinda' sounds like what monasca-logging does | 13:47 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub: you may be right | 13:47 |
| sagar_nikam | we started checking how nova-compute logs on hyperv can be sent using beaver | 13:47 |
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| claudiub | it seems that it has been quite actuve, having 46 releases, but it hasn't been updated for 3 months. | 13:48 |
| sagar_nikam | but ... no windows support | 13:48 |
| claudiub | Wondering if it's still alive. | 13:48 |
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| sagar_nikam | just wanted to check if claudbase has seen this... | 13:48 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: seems there is a pull request to port to Windows: https://github.com/python-beaver/python-beaver/pull/293 | 13:49 |
| sagar_nikam | yes... that is the patch submitted by my team mate | 13:49 |
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| sagar_nikam | we submitted the patch to supprt windows | 13:50 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: no, we haven't, but I'd prefer making monasca-logging work on Windows. it probably has more synnergy with other openstack components. | 13:50 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: I see. it seems that the ci fails on that pull request though. | 13:51 |
| sagar_nikam | ok... let me check with some monasca experts here.... need to understand monasca-logging | 13:51 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub: that patch was submitted when beaver used rabbitmq | 13:51 |
| sagar_nikam | now it used kafka | 13:51 |
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| sagar_nikam | we could not get the patch merged then.. since not many people in beaver understood windows | 13:51 |
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| claudiub | sagar_nikam: yeah, understandable. Windows is not a common specimen in the Ops community. :) | 13:52 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub: agree.... | 13:52 |
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| claudiub | sagar_nikam: well, let us know how the discussion about monasca-logging goes. :) | 13:53 |
| claudiub | until then, we can close the meeting. :) | 13:54 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub: sure | 13:54 |
| claudiub | thanks folks for joining, see you next-next week! | 13:54 |
| sagar_nikam | if monasca-logging is useful.. we should use it | 13:54 |
| sagar_nikam | thanks... so no meeting next week ? | 13:54 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: yep. :) | 13:54 |
| sagar_nikam | ok .... meet you all 2 weeks from now | 13:55 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: yeah, there won't be a lot of people attending next week, and there won't be any updates, since the preparation ofr the midcycle takes time. | 13:55 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub: and hopefully you have a nice meeting at mid-cycle meetup | 13:55 |
| sagar_nikam | especially on cluster driver | 13:56 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: yeah, I really hope so. they tend to over-analyze everything. :) | 13:56 |
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| claudiub | well, bye folks! | 13:57 |
| sagar_nikam | i am done with topics.. | 13:57 |
| sagar_nikam | bye.. | 13:57 |
| itoader | bye | 13:57 |
| claudiub | #endmeeting | 13:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 13 13:57:28 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-07-13-13.00.html | 13:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-07-13-13.00.txt | 13:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-07-13-13.00.log.html | 13:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 13 14:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is njohnston|sleep. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 13 14:00:40 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-07-13-14.00.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-07-13-14.00.txt | 14:00 |
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| njohnston | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 13 14:00:51 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is njohnston. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| njohnston | ok, that's better | 14:00 |
| slaweq | hello | 14:01 |
| njohnston | #chair ajo | 14:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: ajo njohnston | 14:01 |
| davidsha | Hey | 14:01 |
| slaweq | I thought that I missed it when You made "endmeeting" :) | 14:01 |
| njohnston | It gets all screwed up when I use the wrong nick | 14:01 |
| njohnston | #topic announcements | 14:01 |
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| njohnston | #link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html - N-2 is tomorrow! | 14:02 |
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| njohnston | I don't know what changes we have that require alterations in python-neutronclient, neutron-lib, etc. but keep in mind those have an earlier close date than everything else | 14:02 |
| njohnston | also | 14:03 |
| njohnston | I have filed a spec in python-openstackclient to support the QoS commands | 14:03 |
| njohnston | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+spec/neutron-client-qos | 14:03 |
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| njohnston | I only went with currently implemented commands in python-neutronclient. My thought was that once this is in, we can keep up with it as part of the natural course of things. | 14:03 |
| njohnston | I'll see if I can get it approved at the openstackclient meeting tomorrow at 1300 UTC. | 14:03 |
| davidsha | thanks! | 14:04 |
| njohnston | any other announcements? | 14:04 |
| slaweq | njohnston: I can help with implementation of it :) | 14:04 |
| njohnston | Yes, I am guessing it will be a fair amount of work given the number of commands there are, but I don't know how different the openstackclient environment is from python-neutronclient | 14:05 |
| njohnston | ideally things like the tests should be able to copy over pretty seamlessly I hope | 14:05 |
| njohnston | #topic RFEs | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:06 | |
| njohnston | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1586056 | 14:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1586056 in neutron "[RFE] Improved validation mechanism for QoS rules with port types" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:06 |
| njohnston | How goes this one, slaweq? | 14:06 |
| slaweq | this one is still waiting for approval | 14:06 |
| njohnston | I am distressed that it still doesn't have approval, yes | 14:06 |
| slaweq | on last neutron_driver meeting they didn't talk about it | 14:06 |
| slaweq | because there was no enough time | 14:07 |
| slaweq | I hope that tomorrow it will be discussed | 14:07 |
| slaweq | also ajo sent email about it yesterday | 14:07 |
| slaweq | so waiting :/ | 14:07 |
| njohnston | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/099107.html Ajo's email on the validation change | 14:07 |
| slaweq | btw: njohnston can You change status from "in progress" to "triaged" again? | 14:07 |
| njohnston | done | 14:08 |
| slaweq | thx | 14:08 |
| njohnston | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1560961 | 14:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560961 in neutron "[RFE] Allow instance-ingress bandwidth limiting" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:09 |
| slaweq | this one is in fact waiting for validation of rules | 14:09 |
| njohnston | slaweq, looks like you just uploaded a change to work on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/341186/ | 14:09 |
| slaweq | but I'm working on it littlebit | 14:09 |
| slaweq | patch for db and API changes is (almost) done | 14:09 |
| slaweq | yesterday I started working on ovs implementation also | 14:09 |
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| slaweq | so it's moving forward slowly | 14:10 |
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| slaweq | also this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303626/ is related to this RFE | 14:10 |
| njohnston | Other than beating the drivers team with a rolled-up newspaper, let us know if there is anything we can to do help. | 14:11 |
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| slaweq | ok, I will tell You if will be something like that | 14:11 |
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| njohnston | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1560963 | 14:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560963 in neutron "[RFE] Minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 14:11 |
| njohnston | Any notes on this one? | 14:11 |
| njohnston | ^^ ralonsoh | 14:12 |
| ralonsoh | The spec is almost aproved | 14:12 |
| ralonsoh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316082/ | 14:12 |
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| njohnston | excellent! I have been watching the feedback go back and forth | 14:12 |
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| njohnston | FYI | 14:13 |
| njohnston | #link http://tinyurl.com/qos-rfe-unapproved A number of other not-approved RFEs went expired, check it out | 14:13 |
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| njohnston | #topic Bugs | 14:14 |
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| njohnston | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1600313 | 14:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1600313 in openstack-manuals "Using OpenStack Networking with QoS in Networking Guide" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to David Shaughnessy (david-shaughnessy) | 14:14 |
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| njohnston | and | 14:15 |
| njohnston | https://launchpad.net/bugs/1588621 | 14:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1588621 in openstack-manuals "Using OpenStack Networking with QoS in Networking Guide" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to David Shaughnessy (david-shaughnessy) | 14:15 |
| njohnston | are both being taken care of by davidsha, thanks for that! | 14:15 |
| davidsha | Hopefully the last PS for those has been put up. No problem! | 14:15 |
| njohnston | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339432/ | 14:15 |
| njohnston | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1515564 | 14:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1515564 in neutron "Internal server error when running qos-bandwidth-limit-rule-update as a tenant" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Liyingjun (liyingjun) | 14:16 |
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| njohnston | The change to fix this has been going since November https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244680/ | 14:16 |
| njohnston | it looks like there was something unnecessary put in there, so once that gets removed perhaps this can get merged | 14:17 |
| njohnston | and we got a new bug in, which actually has the 'low-hanging-fruit' tag (rare for QoS) | 14:17 |
| njohnston | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1600708 | 14:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1600708 in neutron "Update ‘--max-kbps’ and ‘--max-burst-kbps’ parameter to 2147483648 or greater than 2147483648 using qos-bandwidth-limit-rule-update command，Neutron server thrown an exception" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to QunyingRan (ran-qunying) | 14:17 |
| njohnston | it has the low hanging fruit tag, but it looks like it may require a change to the definition of an existing database column... not sure but I think that is a 'contract' migration | 14:18 |
| slaweq | if it would be change from signed to unsigned int then maybe not | 14:19 |
| slaweq | but I'm not sure | 14:19 |
| davidsha | njohnston: this is a change from 32 bit to 64bit | 14:19 |
| davidsha | sorry *slaweq | 14:20 |
| njohnston | right | 14:20 |
| slaweq | ok | 14:20 |
| davidsha | it could be a signed 64, or an unsigned 32 atm, since it's non-negative I think it's the latter. | 14:20 |
| njohnston | The other point made is, perhaps kbits was a bad choice for units to express this in, in the days of 40 Gb interface cards | 14:20 |
| slaweq | njohnston: but how to change it now | 14:21 |
| slaweq | and what with existing rules which useres could already create? :) | 14:21 |
| davidsha | This is the same problem we had we changing max-burst-kbps to max-burst-kb/ | 14:21 |
| njohnston | Yeah, I didn't think that comment was especially helpful, it seemed more in the realm of "wistful thinking". | 14:22 |
| slaweq | not exactly davidsha | 14:22 |
| slaweq | then it was "only" change of option name in API | 14:22 |
| slaweq | now is change of meaning for existing values | 14:22 |
| slaweq | but maybe adding column with units would be kind of solution? | 14:22 |
| slaweq | and kbps would be default for existing records | 14:22 |
| slaweq | and new would have different unit | 14:23 |
| njohnston | Perhaps. I see drawbacks to every fix I can imagine. | 14:23 |
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| davidsha | you would need to make max-kbps and max-burst-kbps return strings then right? | 14:23 |
| slaweq | davidsha: probably yes | 14:24 |
| slaweq | and also problem with changing names of API parameters then | 14:24 |
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| slaweq | but maybe it's worth to consider it by ralonsoh on his specs about minimum bw limiting? | 14:25 |
| njohnston | You'd almost want to have a new parameter, something that would look like "--max-burst=4mbps" in practice and then parse the unit part of the string. | 14:25 |
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| slaweq | njohnston: it can be solution IMHO | 14:26 |
| ralonsoh | slaweq: ok, so I need to change it again | 14:26 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: I don't know, just saying maybe :) | 14:26 |
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| ralonsoh | I'll wait for the final decission | 14:26 |
| njohnston | Are there other parameters that get expressed as large integers at the command line elsewhere in openstack? We could see how others do it. | 14:27 |
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| slaweq | or I have another (maybe stupid) idea: change column type to varchar | 14:28 |
| slaweq | and store values as string :) | 14:28 |
| njohnston | It makes me think of the -L argument to lvresize: http://linux.die.net/man/8/lvresize | 14:29 |
| njohnston | ok, so we definitely don't have consensus on this, let's keep thinking about it | 14:29 |
| davidsha | slaweq: would need a lot more validating, but it's an option | 14:29 |
| njohnston | #topic Open Discussion | 14:30 |
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| davidsha | njohnston: would the storage projects have this issue with requesting blocks of memory? | 14:30 |
| njohnston | I will be on PTO on 7/27 FYI. | 14:30 |
| slaweq | davidsha: I know but then You don't have to change API or something what used can see :) | 14:30 |
| njohnston | davidsha: Perhaps, I will check with my ops folks to see what they do with cinder/glance/etc in this regard. | 14:30 |
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| davidsha | slaweq: true, that's a good point. Also good catch on the dscp follow up patch on missing DSCP_MARK in the functional test! | 14:31 |
| slaweq | davidsha: thx | 14:32 |
| njohnston | Are any of you going to the neutron mid-cycle? My travel was denied, sadly. | 14:32 |
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| slaweq | FYI: I reported presentation about new features in QoS in Newton | 14:32 |
| slaweq | together with ajo and ralonsoh | 14:32 |
| njohnston | slaweq: Very nice! Like DSCP! :-D | 14:32 |
| * njohnston will be in the front row | 14:33 | |
| slaweq | yes, DSCP is one of new features | 14:33 |
| slaweq | njohnston: thx but please vote for it first :) | 14:33 |
| njohnston | Of course | 14:33 |
| davidsha | Same, looking forward to seeing it! | 14:33 |
| ralonsoh | thanks! | 14:33 |
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| davidsha | We'll ask all the technical DSCP questions >:) | 14:34 |
| slaweq | davidsha: no way :P | 14:34 |
| * njohnston chuckles evilly | 14:34 | |
| njohnston | OK, that's all I have for today. Does anyone have anything else? | 14:34 |
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| davidsha | Oh | 14:35 |
| davidsha | PS 2 of the flow classifier is up if people want to check it out | 14:35 |
| njohnston | url? | 14:36 |
| davidsha | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323963/ | 14:36 |
| davidsha | *flow manager | 14:36 |
| njohnston | I will definitely take a look | 14:36 |
| davidsha | thanks | 14:36 |
| slaweq | me also | 14:36 |
| ralonsoh | me too | 14:36 |
| davidsha | thanks | 14:37 |
| njohnston | Also my change to take the l2 agent extension stuff out of l2 and make it general, so there can be l3 agent extensions, is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329701 | 14:37 |
| njohnston | that has tangential impacts on QoS code, mostly in the form of changing the locations where files are imported from | 14:37 |
| slaweq | I will take a look on it too | 14:38 |
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| njohnston | OK, sounds like we have covered everything. I'll make sure ajo can cover the next meeting, on 7/27. | 14:39 |
| njohnston | Thanks all! | 14:39 |
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| slaweq | I will not be on next meeting | 14:39 |
| njohnston | #endmeeting | 14:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 13 14:39:32 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:39 |
| ralonsoh | bye! | 14:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-07-13-14.00.html | 14:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-07-13-14.00.txt | 14:39 |
| davidsha | Thanks! | 14:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-07-13-14.00.log.html | 14:39 |
| slaweq | bye | 14:39 |
| davidsha | cya | 14:39 |
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| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 13 15:01:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | o/ | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:01 |
| bklei | o/ | 15:01 |
| iurygregory | o/ | 15:01 |
| shinya_kwbt | o/ | 15:01 |
| koji | o/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:01 |
| witek | o/ | 15:01 |
| cbellucci | o/ | 15:01 |
| Fdaisuke | o/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | Agenda for Wednesday July 13, 2016 (15:00 UTC) | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 1. Discrepancy in devstack - some tarballs downloaded to /root, some to /opt/monasca_download_dir. | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 2. Reviews: | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 2.1 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337901/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 2.2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327000/ - accept ? | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 2.3 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327481/ - accept ? | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 2.4 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333009/ - discuss constraint issue | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 3. Mascot | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 4. Mid-cycle: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca_newton_midcycle | 15:01 |
| rbak | o/ | 15:01 |
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| tomasztrebski | o/ | 15:02 |
| igorn | o/ | 15:02 |
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| rhochmuth | hi everyone | 15:02 |
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| bklei | hola | 15:02 |
| igorn | hi :) | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | looks liek the agenda is reasonably light today | 15:02 |
| slogan_ | morning | 15:03 |
| slogan_ | (or evening) | 15:03 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic Discrepancy in devstack | 15:03 |
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| ericksonsantos_ | \o | 15:03 |
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| rhochmuth | did someone add that topic | 15:04 |
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| witek | tomasz i think | 15:04 |
| tomasztrebski | I did, open question to understand why not all tarballs are downloaded into single location | 15:04 |
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| witek | when reviewing my change he spoted | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | probably just an oversight | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | i think monasca_download_dir is the correct location, from what i recall | 15:05 |
| witek | should we take /root or designated dir? | 15:05 |
| witek | ok | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | i think designated directory would be better | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | root sounds a little messy | 15:05 |
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| tomasztrebski | +1 | 15:05 |
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| witek | I also introduced the variable which controlls if the tarballs should always be downloaded | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | #topic reviews | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:06 | |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337901/ | 15:06 |
| bklei | that's me | 15:06 |
| slogan_ | witek: there is an OFFLINE variable in devstack too | 15:06 |
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| bklei | ^^ review ready for scrutiny/testing -- tomasz had some good comments -- and i'll add tempest tests | 15:07 |
| bklei | thx for the review tomasz | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | ok, did you ever submit a bp? | 15:07 |
| bklei | si | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | is that yes or no | 15:07 |
| bklei | it's linked from the review -- https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/dimensions-api | 15:07 |
| bklei | yes :) | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | ok, i guess i'm a little out-of-sync | 15:08 |
| tomasztrebski | bklei: always a pleasure ;-) | 15:08 |
| bklei | i'm proposing to do dimension-values and dimension-names separately | 15:08 |
| tomasztrebski | +1 | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | ok, i'll try and get to looking at this one again | 15:08 |
| bklei | it's a pretty big change all by itself -- across two dbs, two languages... | 15:08 |
| bklei | thx | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | as well as get rbrandt to take a look | 15:08 |
| bklei | perfect | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327000/ | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | monitoring for monasca-log-api | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | assuming that is tomasz and witek | 15:09 |
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| witek | i have added minor comment today | 15:10 |
| tomasztrebski | guess, Witek spotted some issue, so will need to patch that, because looks like overlook from my side | 15:10 |
| witek | looks good | 15:10 |
| tomasztrebski | witek spotted that after I submitted it to agenda | 15:10 |
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| rhochmuth | well, i think it is mainly ready to go. | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | one question, shoudl we make the prefix "monasca.logs" plural | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | instead of monasca.log | 15:11 |
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| witek | I undersand monasca.log refers the monasca-log-api component | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | i see | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | sounds good | 15:12 |
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| tomasztrebski | well it is now, but if more metrics would come in place from area of log monitoring we could think on reusing that prefix | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | so, i'll look at the overall review again, i haven't in a while | 15:12 |
| tomasztrebski | still either monasca.log or monasca.logs fits IMHO | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | also, will try and have tsv review again | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | not sure he is here right now | 15:13 |
| tomasztrebski | the actual component is described by component dimension | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | tomasz: yep, i saw that | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | i think i'm good | 15:13 |
| tomasztrebski | so, monasca.log stays, I need to patch the names according to Witek's comment and that should cut it | 15:14 |
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| witek | +2 | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | we will be integrating the new log-api metrics into our distrobution really soon | 15:14 |
| tomasztrebski | ok, so optimize is based in top of monitoring, so I will need to rebase that after, apart from it should be ready to go | 15:15 |
| tomasztrebski | nice to hear ;-) | 15:15 |
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| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327481/ | 15:16 |
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| rhochmuth | that is also tomasz and witek | 15:16 |
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| tomasztrebski | I already mentioned that change above | 15:17 |
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| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333009/ | 15:17 |
| tomasztrebski | that's me, but I just wanted to brought up the small issue with constraint that this feature will surely encounter | 15:18 |
| tomasztrebski | pluggable notifications | 15:18 |
| tomasztrebski | ok...let's say 'small' | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | i saw your comments, but haven't looked at code | 15:20 |
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| rhochmuth | yes, that is a problem | 15:21 |
| tomasztrebski | well I can only tell you that since we (Fujitsu) joined monasca notification types were constrained in the database (by enum and now by seperate table + foreign key) | 15:21 |
| tomasztrebski | so most likely this will end up as the change that affect database itself which will require some level of migration | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | i'm wondering why haneef hasn't encountered this problem already | 15:22 |
| tomasztrebski | he's using the same notification types that were part of the enum thus were also inserted into notification_types table | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | if the type is constrained on specific values, then should the insert not been allowed | 15:22 |
| tomasztrebski | I think that's the main reason | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | he wrote a plugins for slack and hipchat | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | but those types aren't defined in the mysql | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | am i confused? | 15:23 |
| tomasztrebski | https://github.com/openstack/monasca-api/blob/master/devstack/files/schema/mon_mysql.sql#L274 | 15:23 |
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| tomasztrebski | this is current content of that table, and no - those values aren't there | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | so, if the type isn't in that table, the insert shouldn't be allowed, right? | 15:24 |
| tomasztrebski | as you can see validNotificationTypes (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333009/12/devstack/files/monasca-api/api-config.yml) match the content of the table | 15:24 |
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| tomasztrebski | I don't think that it is possible | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | sure, but he theoretically tested his new plugins, which have new types associated with them | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | anyway, he must have added those types independently | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | so, in addition to adding the plugin | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | the schema needs to be modified | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | or, the schema is fine | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | but the new types need to be inserted | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | into that table | 15:27 |
| tomasztrebski | I'll run some tests tommorow to make sure | 15:27 |
| bklei | and hopefully if a migration is required, a script will be provided as part of the patch? | 15:27 |
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| rhochmuth | i don't think a migration is required | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | but, the new types need to be at least added to the table at some point | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | currently, they are hard-coded in the mysql that we use | 15:28 |
| bklei | or even documentation of the correct columns/tables insert statement | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | possibly, they should be inserted when the api or notification starts-up | 15:29 |
| bklei | something operators can copy/paste and not all figure it out | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | as another option | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | i'm just throwning out | 15:29 |
| tomasztrebski | but if you keep schema and you keep configuration entry (validNotificationTypes), these are two places where something is defined, my concern here is that someone can remove entry from configuration | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | notification engine on start-up coudl check to see if all types are defined in the table | 15:29 |
| tomasztrebski | it should follow with removing data from table | 15:30 |
| shinya_kwbt | as You can see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333009/12/monasca_api/v2/common/schemas/notifications_request_body_schema.py I think we should write notification type in config file. | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | tomasz: i agree, the configs need to be kept in-sync | 15:30 |
| tomasztrebski | and if constraint is kept removing data for disabled notification types will be problamatic | 15:30 |
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| rhochmuth | if you disable a notification type in the api, it won't be allowed, and if the plugin disables it, then the plugin will just ignore i'm assuming | 15:31 |
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| tomasztrebski | ok, but what should happen with those notification methods that's type is the one you just disabled ? | 15:32 |
| tomasztrebski | if still keeping schema and config in sync is in order | 15:32 |
| shinya_kwbt | oh sorry tomasz already mentiond. | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | thinking off the top of my head, maybe it shouldn't be removed from the db | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | but, just ignore by notification engine | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | if notifications are defined that use a type that has been disable by the api and engine, i don't think it should be removed from the db, as that woudl result i'm assumin in a constraint violation | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | how about if we discuss further in the ticket | 15:35 |
| tomasztrebski | ok | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | haneef isn't gettign all this | 15:35 |
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| rhochmuth | thanks for bringing this to our attention | 15:35 |
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| rhochmuth | i hadn't looked at the schema and assumed it was just a string | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | bad assumption on my part | 15:36 |
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| tomasztrebski | it used to be enum, that was kind of contraint on its own | 15:36 |
| tomasztrebski | now it is the table, only constraint part did not change actually | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | #topic mascot | 15:37 |
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| rhochmuth | we have a request from openstack committee for a monasca mascot | 15:37 |
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| witek | :) | 15:38 |
| iurygregory | nice :D | 15:38 |
| Kamil_ | cool | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | The idea is to create a family of logos for OpenStack projects that are unique, yet immediately identifiable as part of OpenStack. We’ll be using these logos to promote your project on the OpenStack website, at the Summit and in marketing materials.  We’re | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | asking project teams to choose a mascot to represent as their logo. Your team can select your own mascot, and then we’ll have an illustrator create the logo | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | for you (and we also plan to print some special collateral such as stickers for your team in Barcelona). | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | Your mascot can be anything from the natural world—an animal, fish, plant, or natural feature such as a mountain or waterfall. We ask that you don’t choose a mascot | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | that another company or project in the ecosystem is already using. To facilitate this, we suggest your team choose and prioritize a few mascot candidates by July 27. | 15:38 |
| slogan_ | Well, UC Santa Cruz already took the banana slug, so can't use that | 15:38 |
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| rhochmuth | we can put as a topic for nex weeks mid-cycle | 15:39 |
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| rhochmuth | currently, i have a dog, cat, monitor (lizard), and mammoth | 15:39 |
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| tomasztrebski | offtopic....just was looking for inspiration and found that -> https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/63908613.jpg | 15:40 |
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| iurygregory | need to be animal/something from nature i think | 15:40 |
| bklei | eagle! | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | yo dawg | 15:41 |
| Kamil_ | an alpaca | 15:41 |
| slogan_ | heh | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | i thought an alpaca was a vegetable | 15:41 |
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| bklei | i've got it -- monasca is a mismash of different stuff -- okapi? | 15:41 |
| slogan_ | given it only needs to be unique in the ecosystem, banana slug is actually back on the table | 15:41 |
| bklei | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okapi#/media/File:Okapi2.jpg | 15:42 |
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| slogan_ | (sorry, I am still astonished a college would pick such a mascot) | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | slogan_: We are not going to use a banana slug | 15:42 |
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| bklei | +1 roland | 15:42 |
| slogan_ | lol | 15:42 |
| iurygregory | o.o | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | ok, next topic | 15:43 |
| tomasztrebski | http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03133/the-eye-of-sauron_3133429b.jpg | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | bring your ideas next week | 15:43 |
| tomasztrebski | is that an option ? | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | sounds like we have some good ones | 15:43 |
| tomasztrebski | kind of nice fit for monitoring | 15:43 |
| tomasztrebski | :) | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | very cool | 15:43 |
| bklei | like the analogy -- monasca==visibility into openstack | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Mid-cycle: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca_newton_midcycle | 15:44 |
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| rhochmuth | so, hopefully everyone remembers that next week is the mid-cycle | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | the link is above | 15:44 |
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| rhochmuth | if folks can start filling in with topics, that woudl be great | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | right now it is mostly open | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | i'lll start filling into | 15:45 |
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| rhochmuth | ok, just a reminder that CFP for openstack deadline is today | 15:48 |
| slogan_ | yep | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | so, we have a bit of time left | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | i'll just open it up | 15:48 |
| slogan_ | I can still add you as a speaker if you end up with only 2 talks | 15:49 |
| slogan_ | let me know by e-mail | 15:49 |
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| rhochmuth | slogan_: sure, i'll let you know later today, thx | 15:49 |
| slogan_ | we're now pushing packet trace data into monasca | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | wow | 15:50 |
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| bklei | slogan_ maybe a demo of that during next week's midcycle -- would like to see that? | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | yes, that is a great idea | 15:50 |
| slogan_ | I could certainly talk about what we've added | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | please add to agenda | 15:50 |
| slogan_ | ok | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | i was wondering about connections to other projects, like congress, vitrage, watcher | 15:51 |
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| slogan_ | me too :-) | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | slogan_: ooops, sorry, broadview | 15:51 |
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| slogan_ | would a discussion on the issues they may face with a firehose of obscure data be good for the midcycle | 15:52 |
| slogan_ | some of the stuff broadview pushes is really domain specific - seems like we have to play a role in ways beyod just dimensions | 15:52 |
| slogan_ | if they can effectively use the data | 15:53 |
| slogan_ | they kinda have to know what it means | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | that would be a good topic | 15:53 |
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| rhochmuth | cassandra update | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | that would be another good topic | 15:54 |
| shinya_kwbt | it's me ? | 15:54 |
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| witek | +1 | 15:54 |
| bklei | good idea | 15:54 |
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| rhochmuth | shinya_kwbt: yes, that would be you, and whatver updates that fujitsu have | 15:55 |
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| rhochmuth | in the same area based on their investigations | 15:55 |
| witek | i will speak with Matthias | 15:55 |
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| rhochmuth | thanks witek | 15:55 |
| shinya_kwbt | I'm working to add support java implementation | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | i also have some general logistical topics related to the project to discuss | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | such as deployment documentation, and cleaning up repo readmes | 15:56 |
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| rhochmuth | so, i'll add them | 15:57 |
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| rhochmuth | so, i think for the first 1/2 hour to hour we can orhganize the topics and remainder of the agenda for th emid-cycle | 15:57 |
| bklei | sounds good | 15:58 |
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| rhochmuth | so, unless anyone has anything else, i think this meeting is wrapping up | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | thanks everyone | 15:58 |
| bklei | thx roland! | 15:58 |
| witek | thank you Roland | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | see you next tuesday | 15:59 |
| shinya_kwbt | thanks | 15:59 |
| rhochmuth | and wednesday | 15:59 |
| witek | see you | 15:59 |
| koji | see you | 15:59 |
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| tomasztrebski | cya | 15:59 |
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| iurygregory | tomasztrebski, can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/341214/2/docs/monasca-log-api-spec.md ? o/ | 15:59 |
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| rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 13 16:00:14 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-07-13-15.01.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-07-13-15.01.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-07-13-15.01.log.html | 16:00 |
| markvoelker | #startmeeting defcore | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 13 16:00:23 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markvoelker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'defcore' | 16:00 |
| topol | o/ | 16:00 |
| eglute | o/ | 16:00 |
| catherineD | o/ | 16:00 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 16:00 |
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| markvoelker | #chair eglute | 16:00 |
| woodster_ | o/ | 16:00 |
| gema | o/ | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute markvoelker | 16:00 |
| markvoelker | #chair hogepodge | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker | 16:00 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreLunar.11 Today's etherpad | 16:01 |
| luzC | o/ | 16:01 |
| markvoelker | Do we have Brad to talk about the IBM interop challenge? | 16:02 |
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| topol | yes I am here | 16:02 |
| markvoelker | #topic IBM Interop Challenge | 16:02 |
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| markvoelker | Take it away sir | 16:02 |
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| topol | Thanks markvoelker! Hi everyone | 16:02 |
| dwalleck | (late) o/ | 16:02 |
| topol | At OpenStack Austin, our GM Don Rippert kicked off an OpenStack Interoperability Challenge. | 16:03 |
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| topol | The goal of this challenge was to prove/highlight that OpenStack is interoperable at a solution level (work builds upon existing DefCore/RefStack efforts). | 16:03 |
| topol | We have been defining this challenge effort and reviewing it with many OpenStack sponsor companies. An incredibly large number of folks have agreed to participate in our Interoperability Challenge and have agreed to show interoperability at the Barcelona Summit. | 16:03 |
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| topol | We have a kickoff meeting next week and would like participation from DefCore/RefStack | 16:04 |
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| topol | This work is meant to build on and showcase DefCore/RefStack | 16:04 |
| hogepodge | topol: do yo have any links for this? | 16:05 |
| markvoelker | topol: When's the meeting and what do you need from us? | 16:05 |
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| Rockyg | o/ | 16:05 |
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| brunssen | o/ | 16:05 |
| topol | I have a slide deck I can make available to you all | 16:05 |
| gema | that'd be great | 16:06 |
| topol | Ideally would like someone from DefCore/RefStak to partcipate and be informed. I believe Rockyg will be there but we are happy to have others | 16:06 |
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| topol | This is an open invitation | 16:06 |
| eglute | topol could a calendar invite be sent to the defcore mailing list? | 16:07 |
| Rockyg | Yup. I'm there. I think catherineD is, too. | 16:07 |
| markvoelker | topol: Sure, we can probably have some folks join in...once we know when it is. =) Thanks for making us aware. | 16:07 |
| topol | Our first kickoff meeting is this Monday at 2pm EST. We can send all the details to the defcore mailing list | 16:08 |
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| markvoelker | #action topol to send out slide deck and meeting info to defcore ML | 16:08 |
| markvoelker | topol: cool. Anything else you want to discuss today? | 16:09 |
| topol | Perfect. we will do that. Im not sure if the meeting time on monday is 100% confiremd but I will get it confirmed befre I mail the list | 16:09 |
| catherineD | yes I will be at the meeting | 16:09 |
| topol | That is all I have. We look forward to working with all of you. | 16:09 |
| eglute | thank you topol! | 16:10 |
| markvoelker | Thanks Brad. | 16:10 |
| markvoelker | Moving on then.... | 16:10 |
| topol | Thanks | 16:10 |
| markvoelker | #topic Flag test that depend o os-networks extension | 16:10 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329220/ | 16:10 |
| markvoelker | dwalleck: want to speak to this one? | 16:11 |
| dwalleck | Sure | 16:11 |
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| dwalleck | There was some good feedback on this last week from mtreinish and andreaf. It's possible that the issue I've been encountering is a bug/feature add for their credentials provider | 16:12 |
| dwalleck | I opened a PR with Tempest to address this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/341592/ | 16:12 |
| hogepodge | I'm good with flagging based on the information and response from QA | 16:13 |
| dwalleck | It might be the case that the Tempest credential provider was trying to be extra helpful, but maybe too helpful in certain cases. I'm waiting for feedback from the QA folks on this change | 16:13 |
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| markvoelker | Yeah, I think that's fair. One request: could we actually get that bug added to the text of the flag? Really helps with tracking. | 16:14 |
| dwalleck | markvoelker: Can do | 16:14 |
| markvoelker | dwalleck: Thanks. If you need an example: https://github.com/openstack/defcore/blob/master/2016.01.json#L804 | 16:14 |
| markvoelker | Cool. Anything else on this one today? | 16:15 |
| dwalleck | That's all I have. Thanks for the patience and discussion on this point | 16:15 |
| markvoelker | Thanks dwalleck. | 16:15 |
| markvoelker | Ok, moving on | 16:15 |
| markvoelker | #topic Flag request for Hard Reboot Capability | 16:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Flag request for Hard Reboot Capability (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:16 | |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: take it away | 16:16 |
| hogepodge | This should be pretty simple. | 16:16 |
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| hogepodge | A vendor was having problems with this test and asked for a flag on it. | 16:16 |
| hogepodge | After talking with the qa team, it seems like the fix is fairly simple. | 16:16 |
| hogepodge | Their reboots were happening too fast for keys to be synched to the drive, so the test was failing. | 16:16 |
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| dwalleck | v3rm!llion | 16:17 |
| dwalleck | gah | 16:17 |
| hogepodge | The fix is adding a sync call in the guest before the hard reboot. | 16:17 |
| hogepodge | But, I wanted to make sure everyone was aware of the situation and have a chance to give feedback. They've been really good about filing bugs and engaging with the QA team. | 16:18 |
| hogepodge | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/defcore/+bug/1584019 | 16:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1584019 in defcore "Non working hard reboot test listed in spec 2016.01.required" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Chris Hoge (hoge) | 16:18 |
| hogepodge | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1583987 | 16:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1583987 in tempest "reboot_server_hard - can trigger loss of pub key data which fails test" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Ken'ichi Ohmichi (oomichi) | 16:18 |
| hogepodge | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340723/ | 16:18 |
| hogepodge | My suggestion is to not flag given a fix is in progress. | 16:19 |
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| markvoelker | Good to know. I think I missed notification on that bug being filed somehow (probably because I was mostly internet-less all last week) so thanks for bringing it up. | 16:19 |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: is that vendor able to pass the test and thus certify without the flag? | 16:19 |
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| markvoelker | I'll make a note to look it over. Just for clarity: no actual flag patch has been filed, right? Just the bug? | 16:20 |
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| hogepodge | catherineD: they have a workaround that involves setting a delay to 30 seconds. It makes their test run take a long time, but they can get the test to pass. | 16:20 |
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| hogepodge | markvoelker: right, they asked me for a flag bug haven't filed a patch for it | 16:21 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: got it, thanks | 16:21 |
| markvoelker | Ok, anything else on this one? | 16:22 |
| hogepodge | not from me | 16:22 |
| markvoelker | Moving right along... | 16:22 |
| markvoelker | #topic Admin Credential Tests | 16:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Admin Credential Tests (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:22 | |
| markvoelker | Not much to update on this one: basically there are two different problem classes here. We have some tests that genuinely need admin creds, and a bunch that don't. | 16:23 |
| catherineD | for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299491/ | 16:23 |
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| markvoelker | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300608/ would get rid of tests that deal with extended port attributes, which really do usually need admin and therefore aren't good candidates for us | 16:23 |
| catherineD | I file that to raise the awareness of the testcases involve ...since then we got many patches that eithe rmove or flag the tests ... so the purpose is served ... I will abandon this patch | 16:24 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: eglute: I think you had both +2'd that one on earlier patchsets, so may just need a quick recheck from you? | 16:24 |
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| markvoelker | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300608/ that is | 16:24 |
| catherineD | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299491/ will be abandon | 16:24 |
| eglute | done | 16:24 |
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| markvoelker | catherineD: thanks. To be clear, 300608 does raise some valid concerns. There's a bunch of neutron tests using admin creds today that don't need to, so thanks for finding them. =) | 16:25 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: does that patch need to include anything for next.json? | 16:25 |
| markvoelker | I have submitted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335558/ to Tempest to deal with those...it just needs reviews | 16:26 |
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| markvoelker | hogepodge: which patch? Sorry, too many links. =) | 16:26 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: catherineD: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300608/5 , does this need to be applied to next.json | 16:26 |
| catherineD | I believe those tests had already been removed from next.json ... but I will check | 16:27 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: are there any other tests that need attention? | 16:27 |
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| markvoelker | hogepodge: I think those are the only neutron ones, so we should be in good shape when/if that tempest patch lands | 16:28 |
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| luzC | markvoelker I tested your tempest patch and it worked perfectly (no admin credentials) :) | 16:28 |
| markvoelker | luzC: thanks. =) | 16:28 |
| luzC | already +1 it | 16:28 |
| hogepodge | luzC: awesome, thanks! | 16:29 |
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| markvoelker | If others want to provide feedback on that patch, you're more than welcome. | 16:30 |
| markvoelker | ok, anything else we need to talk about on this topic today? | 16:30 |
| catherineD | confirm the tests in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300608/ were already removed from next.json https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324892/ | 16:30 |
| markvoelker | thanks catherineD | 16:30 |
| markvoelker | Moving on then... | 16:31 |
| markvoelker | #topic Additional Properties | 16:31 |
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| markvoelker | hogepodge: go for it | 16:31 |
| hogepodge | I'm not sure I have much more to add, just checking to see if we have consensus and can move on it. | 16:31 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: I saw your review and can address those points | 16:32 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: how is the .py file being used? | 16:32 |
| hogepodge | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333067/ | 16:32 |
| hogepodge | catherineD: good catch, I need to update the information on that | 16:32 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: thx | 16:32 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: Thanks. I think looking at how we're communicating these things is going to be a useful exercise to prevent this situation again in the future. | 16:32 |
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| hogepodge | catherineD: I've been speaking with mtreinish about it, vendors are going to have to run it against their subunit output, and will likely need to rerun the test with a modified tempest-lib to disable tests that have problems | 16:33 |
| hogepodge | catherineD: the tests can fail from strict checking before the action is tested. | 16:34 |
| hogepodge | (capability that is) | 16:34 |
| hogepodge | catherineD: markvoelker: I'll send a new patch clarifying today. | 16:34 |
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| hogepodge | markvoelker: regarding the communinication, yes, I see these things as growing pains. | 16:35 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: thx | 16:35 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: Ewww. Can we make that easier somehow? E.g. maybe provide the necessary lib patch somewhere? | 16:35 |
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| hogepodge | markvoelker: I'm not sure. It's not great, but also the least invasive. The lib patch would have to happen on a case by case basis, since properties are added in different api calls | 16:36 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: but I can have the vendor give me a diff | 16:36 |
| catherineD | would it be easier if refstack-client jsut uses this lib patch all the time? | 16:37 |
| markvoelker | Hmm...ok. I'll try to pick through that a little this week to understand it better. I'd like to make this an easily repeatable process if we can. | 16:37 |
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| luzC | I can help to modify refstack-client if needed | 16:37 |
| dwalleck | I'm glad to be a guinea pig wherever it might be helpful | 16:37 |
| markvoelker | catherineD: probably not. I think we want most people to use the real tests. It's only a relatively small number that need the waiver program. | 16:37 |
| Rockyg | I'm sure hogepodge would,too | 16:37 |
| hogepodge | catherineD: could be a refstack client feature that generates the patch. I think it should be automateable. | 16:37 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: that would be neat | 16:38 |
| hogepodge | luzC: want to work together on that? | 16:38 |
| dwalleck | hogepodge: ++ to automatable | 16:38 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: yea it would be much more repeatable | 16:38 |
| luzC | yes totally :) | 16:39 |
| catherineD | at least the process is repeatable | 16:39 |
| luzC | hogepodge yes we can work together :) | 16:39 |
| hogepodge | Is the Foundation ok for working with vendors, with the assumption we're working out the fine details of the patch? | 16:39 |
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| hogepodge | markvoelker: eglute: (my previous question) | 16:40 |
| eglute | Yes, | 16:40 |
| markvoelker | Yeah, I think they're generally onboard. | 16:40 |
| hogepodge | Thanks | 16:41 |
| eglute | i would like to see the waiver merged, so that hogepodge can move forward with certifying companies | 16:41 |
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| hogepodge | eglute: I'll get the new patch up today. | 16:42 |
| eglute | thank you hogepodge | 16:42 |
| markvoelker | FYI, the next BoD meeting is August 23 and I'm sure this will make the agenda. =) | 16:42 |
| eglute | I am sure it will! | 16:42 |
| markvoelker | Ok, anything further on this today? | 16:42 |
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| hogepodge | no, thanks | 16:43 |
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| markvoelker | Muy bueno. Thanks for your work on this hogepodge, and everyone else for their feedback. | 16:43 |
| hogepodge | Happy to help. Thanks everyone. | 16:43 |
| eglute | indeed, thanks everyone! | 16:43 |
| markvoelker | #topic DefCore Sprint/Midcycle | 16:43 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreSummer2016Sprint Midcycle planning etherpad | 16:43 |
| eglute | I sent out calendar invites | 16:44 |
| markvoelker | We had a few suggestions for additional topics | 16:44 |
| markvoelker | thanks eglute | 16:44 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge, do we know when the Foundation folks are coming/would like to present? | 16:44 |
| markvoelker | Should be fairly easy to accommodate them. | 16:44 |
| markvoelker | Or, alternately: who should I coordinate with to figure out a good timeslot for them? | 16:44 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: I don't know for certain yet. They're in China right now, but I'll chase them down for an answer. | 16:45 |
| markvoelker | Ok, thanks | 16:45 |
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| hogepodge | Likely Tuesday or Thursday, since I think I'll be traveling with them to/from Austin to work on some other items. | 16:45 |
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| markvoelker | Sounds good, just let me know when you find out and we'll work something out. | 16:46 |
| markvoelker | On the additionalAttributes session suggestion: it looks like we're very close to landing the waiver patches. Still think we need to budget time for it? | 16:46 |
| hogepodge | ok | 16:46 |
| eglute | markvoelker i would not think so | 16:46 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: maybe? depends on how the second patch goes. | 16:46 |
| markvoelker | Ok. Maybe the thing to do here is leave it for Fudge Time for the moment and we'll budget additional time if we don't end up landing the patches this week. | 16:47 |
| markvoelker | Sound reasonable? | 16:47 |
| hogepodge | sounds reasonable, put it in pencil :-D | 16:47 |
| markvoelker | =) | 16:47 |
| markvoelker | The last suggestion we had was for a bug triage/squashing session. I'm ok with that if we have time for it, but it's also the sort of thing we could do at a weekly meeting or set up a triage day. | 16:48 |
| gema | markvoelker: like we have a lot of free time on weekly meetings to do that? | 16:49 |
| eglute | markvoelker would those be tempest bugs? or? | 16:49 |
| gema | oh, you mean schedule a separate one | 16:49 |
| markvoelker | gema: =) Well, we're doing patch reviews fairly regularly in meetings so I think we could do bug triage one week if necessary. But yeah, I separate is fine with me too. | 16:50 |
| gema | :D | 16:50 |
| hogepodge | Could be useful for wrapping up next. It could be good to do pairs of next against clouds we have access to, so we can shake out any final issues before going to the board. | 16:50 |
| hogepodge | s/pairs/tests/ | 16:50 |
| markvoelker | There are only 10 bugs in LP for DefCore right now, so it should be relatively quick. | 16:50 |
| dwalleck | hogepodge: ++, very good idea | 16:50 |
| eglute | do we have time scheduled to wrap up 2016.08? | 16:51 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: I have a full test of next,json against a few of my existing clouds ... looks good after all the next,json related patches are merged | 16:51 |
| hogepodge | catherineD: +1 | 16:51 |
| markvoelker | catherineD: hogepodge: I have a couple of results against some of my lab clouds too | 16:51 |
| hogepodge | catherineD: Can you send me the RefStack links? :-D | 16:51 |
| hogepodge | I'm setting up a little Mitaka cloud right now to test against also. | 16:52 |
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| catherineD | oh I did not send up to RefStack ... send to my own server ... but I can do that | 16:52 |
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| eglute | markvoelker will we need to do anything else to finalize 2016.08? | 16:53 |
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| markvoelker | eglute: I think we're in pretty good shape once we get the admin credential stuff landed, but I'll look it over again this week. I suspect we won't need to dedicate (much?) time to it at the midcycle. | 16:54 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker. i dont think there is currently any time scheduled for it | 16:54 |
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| markvoelker | When we get a little closer to the BoD meeting I'll put up a patch finalizing it for the BoD to review prior to the meeting. | 16:54 |
| eglute | great, thank you | 16:55 |
| markvoelker | One other thing on the midcycle: if you haven't added your name and employer to the etherpad and are planning to attend in-person, please do so. RAX needs that info a day beforehand to be ready for us. | 16:56 |
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| markvoelker | Ok, anything else on the midcycle today? We're down to a few minutes remaining | 16:57 |
| eglute | Also, regarding dinners: i would suggest Riverwalk, but it is a bit of a drive from the Castle | 16:57 |
| catherineD | eglute: yay!! | 16:57 |
| gema | :D | 16:57 |
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| hogepodge | eglute: I know, I want to stay downtown, but also want to be practical :-D | 16:57 |
| * markvoelker doesn't mind a drive down to the riverwalk personally | 16:57 | |
| eglute | well, the Castle is not downtown, but i do not recomend staying very close to the castle | 16:58 |
| dwalleck | One does not simply drive to the riverwalk... | 16:58 |
| markvoelker | Ok, one final topic with our two remaining minutes | 16:58 |
| catherineD | now we have local tour guides :-) | 16:58 |
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| hogepodge | Before the meeting closes, I want to make one note about the agenda. I've been make a best guess effort as to how to order everything, but if you have an item that you want to appear earlier in the meeting, please feel free to move it. I generally get the agenda out the night before the meeting, and don't regard it as set in stone. | 16:58 |
| markvoelker | dwalleck: ain't that the truth. =p | 16:58 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: thanks for that | 16:58 |
| markvoelker | #topic Session submissions for Barcelona | 16:58 |
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| markvoelker | The deadline to submit talks is tonight just before midnight PDT. Get those talks in! | 16:59 |
| markvoelker | And with that we're out of time... | 16:59 |
| eglute | hogepodge is yours defcore 101 type? | 16:59 |
| markvoelker | Thanks everyone! Back to #openstack-defcore.... | 16:59 |
| hogepodge | link to talks you've sumitted | 16:59 |
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| hogepodge | eglute: yeah | 16:59 |
| eglute | cool thanks! | 16:59 |
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| markvoelker | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 13 16:59:49 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-07-13-16.00.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-07-13-16.00.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-07-13-16.00.log.html | 16:59 |
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