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| SridarK | Hi FWaaS folks | 04:00 |
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| chandanc_ | Hello | 04:00 |
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| SridarK | i think we can get started | 04:00 |
| njohnston | #startmeeting fwaas | 04:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 29 04:00:57 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is njohnston. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
| padkrish | hello | 04:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fwaas' | 04:01 |
| * SarathMekala says hello all | 04:01 | |
| yushiro | aloha~ | 04:01 |
| njohnston | #chair SridarK xgerman | 04:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SridarK njohnston xgerman | 04:01 |
| SridarK | I think xgerman may be travelling so may not join | 04:01 |
| SridarK | #topic FWaaS v2 | 04:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "FWaaS v2 (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:01 | |
| SridarK | Lets go in order from the extensions on to the driver | 04:02 |
| SridarK | i had a quick sync with shwetap - there a few more updates that she needs to pick up that she is working on | 04:02 |
| SridarK | fallout from my integration testing | 04:03 |
| SridarK | i have been working thru this ext - db - plugin | 04:03 |
| SridarK | i am able to create rules - kind of got stuck on debugging something that turned out to be trivial once i found it | 04:03 |
| SridarK | njohnston: i have some updates for the db - once i clean things up - i will pass it on | 04:04 |
| njohnston | SridarK: Great, I look forward to it | 04:04 |
| SridarK | we will also need a policy - rule association table | 04:04 |
| SridarK | i will hack something quick - to move fwd with the testing | 04:05 |
| SridarK | i am really pushing to get this done asap (hopefully by tomorrow) | 04:05 |
| njohnston | SridarK: Excellent! | 04:06 |
| yushiro | SridarK, great. | 04:06 |
| SridarK | njohnston: i know u are busy with the L3Agent stuff - so i am not bothering u with every issue i run into - will aggregate | 04:06 |
| njohnston | SridarK: OK, just let me know how I can help. :-) | 04:07 |
| SridarK | njohnston: thx | 04:07 |
| SridarK | will do | 04:07 |
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| SridarK | ok moving into the agent | 04:07 |
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| SridarK | padkrish: welcome back from the PTO | 04:07 |
| padkrish | SridarK# Thanks | 04:07 |
| padkrish | :) | 04:07 |
| yushiro | padkrish, yes, welcome too. | 04:08 |
| SridarK | yushiro: , padkrish: over to u guys | 04:08 |
| yushiro | SridarK, OK. njohnston helped me to reach out ajo/Ihar on my patch. Thanks, njohnston :) | 04:08 |
| njohnston | yushiro: Any time! | 04:08 |
| yushiro | Currently, I and padkrish focus on versioned objects. | 04:09 |
| yushiro | And, L2 agent modification on neutron side. | 04:09 |
| njohnston | Is the agent change this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268316/ ? If so, we should replace it with a non-abandoned one. | 04:09 |
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| SridarK | yushiro: i am thinking we can leverage this for L3 as well | 04:10 |
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| yushiro | SridarK, yes. padkrish also mentioned to me. | 04:11 |
| SridarK | and once u have a plan with the versioned objects - i will ask for some help to define the plugin side of things | 04:11 |
| yushiro | njohnston, ah, other patchset. I mean https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329701/ | 04:12 |
| yushiro | njohnston, currently I'd like to understand your patch's effect to our L2-agent side. | 04:13 |
| njohnston | OK. I wasn't sure what change is the active change as far as the FWaaS agent-side code. | 04:13 |
| njohnston | yushiro: The change should be fairly minimal since you were following the pattern set by the QoS L2 plugin. All we really did from the L2 perspective was moved some things around so that the L3 agent could also get tot hem, | 04:14 |
| padkrish | njohnston# https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323971/ | 04:14 |
| yushiro | njohnston, I see. Your patch is to expand extension feature not only L2 but L3. | 04:15 |
| njohnston | padkrish: Thanks, that's the one. | 04:15 |
| njohnston | yushiro: Yes, correct, and the patch I am working on as a follow-up to that creates an L3 FWaaS plugin that utilizes the functionality | 04:16 |
| njohnston | Since we've moved on to the topic of the l3 agent extension work, there is a point of concern: armax says the code may need to be moved to neutron-lib. I dissented, but it remains unresolved. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329701/5/neutron/agent/l3/l3_agent_extension.py@22 | 04:16 |
| SarathMekala | Yushiro I had a similar observation and gave a review comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268316/ | 04:16 |
| njohnston | I am planning on pinging armax to talk about it tomorrow | 04:17 |
| SridarK | lets cover this in that topic | 04:17 |
| yushiro | njohnston, OK. I see. Would you let me know the result? I'm confusing whether L3 extension code should add in my WIP or not. | 04:18 |
| yushiro | SarathMekala, Hi, long time no see :) Thanks for your comment. I'll confirm it later. | 04:18 |
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| SridarK | yushiro: i think for L3 Agent - we can work with the current model and then refactor once the njohnston: 's patch merges | 04:18 |
| njohnston | yushiro: I think you should use the common agent_extension code from my patch, eventually. | 04:19 |
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| SridarK | if the L3 Agent refactor moves quickly - then we jump on that bus | 04:19 |
| njohnston | yushiro: Whoever's code merges second can adapt to the one that merges first. | 04:19 |
| SridarK | +1 | 04:20 |
| yushiro | SridarK, njohnston Yup. I'll pay attention about that. Thanks :-) | 04:20 |
| SridarK | yushiro: padkrish: other things on the Agent ? | 04:20 |
| SridarK | that u would like to discuss | 04:20 |
| yushiro | SridarK, currently, that's all from me. | 04:20 |
| padkrish | SridarK# nothing from my side, will catch up more in the next day or two | 04:21 |
| yushiro | padkrish, can I discuss later? | 04:21 |
| padkrish | yushiro# absolutely | 04:21 |
| SridarK | ok great, lets move to iptables, driver | 04:21 |
| yushiro | padkrish, thanks | 04:21 |
| SridarK | chandanc_: SarathMekala: pls go ahead | 04:21 |
| chandanc_ | We had some discussion locally | 04:21 |
| chandanc_ | i have updated the meeting agenda with the etherpad for the same | 04:22 |
| SridarK | chandanc_: thx for opening the bug and WIP patch | 04:22 |
| chandanc_ | Just sent you guys some update in mail about the direction we are thinking | 04:22 |
| chandanc_ | sure | 04:22 |
| SarathMekala | WIP etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/firewall_driver_notes | 04:22 |
| * njohnston saw the mail, will review it in depth tomorrow | 04:22 | |
| SarathMekala | will be updating it with discussion notes / issues to be looked at | 04:23 |
| chandanc_ | Is there any way we can post some diagram for review, I thing i am missing people in the mail | 04:23 |
| SridarK | chandanc_: yes thx saw that will take a look | 04:23 |
| chandanc_ | ? | 04:23 |
| njohnston | I forwarded it to mfranc213 | 04:24 |
| padkrish | chandanc_# yes, i think i was missed :) | 04:24 |
| SridarK | i can add all the regular folks to that | 04:24 |
| chandanc_ | sure, any suggestion for posting picture will be very helpful | 04:24 |
| chandanc_ | yes will add you and yushiro | 04:25 |
| padkrish | thanks | 04:25 |
| yushiro | chandanc_, Thanks. | 04:25 |
| njohnston | You could always use http://imgur.com/ to post the images. It's not pretty but it works | 04:25 |
| chandanc_ | In summary, i have a better handle on the driver, but have some question | 04:25 |
| SridarK | chandanc_: or for starters go with what ever is easiest for - a pdf generated from word or a google doc pointer and email | 04:26 |
| chandanc_ | Thanks Nate, will do that and link back to etherpad | 04:26 |
| chandanc_ | ok | 04:26 |
| SridarK | go with what is easy for u then u can bring it up to the etherpad etc | 04:26 |
| chandanc_ | I will reach out for clarification as soon as i get along with the code | 04:27 |
| chandanc_ | sure | 04:27 |
| SridarK | chandanc_: sounds good | 04:27 |
| SridarK | pls free to ping mickeys for any suggestions or thoughts | 04:27 |
| chandanc_ | Yes will ping Mickey for clarification | 04:28 |
| SarathMekala | sure | 04:28 |
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| chandanc_ | One question though, how do I reactivate a abandoned patch ? | 04:28 |
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| njohnston | You have to be core or the owner of the patch I believe | 04:29 |
| njohnston | If it's abandoned I think you should create a new one and then comment in the old one pointing people to the new one | 04:29 |
| SridarK | chandanc_: which patch is it ? | 04:29 |
| chandanc_ | oh, I will ping Mickey then , the one from Mickey | 04:29 |
| SridarK | chandanc_: actually go with njohnston:'s suggestion | 04:29 |
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| chandanc_ | the one from MIckey | 04:29 |
| chandanc_ | ok will create a new one | 04:30 |
| chandanc_ | Thats all from my side for now | 04:30 |
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| njohnston | I added a "Team email list" section to the agenda etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fwaas-meeting so that when we have something to mail out to the whole team we can just copy all the addresses from there. | 04:31 |
| SridarK | ok sounds good - pls IRC or email if u need any help | 04:31 |
| chandanc_ | cool, Thanks | 04:31 |
| SridarK | njohnston: roey does not work on this - so u can remove him | 04:31 |
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| chandanc_ | sure | 04:31 |
| SarathMekala | sure | 04:31 |
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| njohnston | SridarK: Thanks, done | 04:31 |
| SridarK | thx | 04:31 |
| SridarK | ok lets move on | 04:32 |
| SridarK | #topic L3 Agent extension | 04:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "L3 Agent extension (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:32 | |
| SridarK | njohnston: pls go ahead | 04:32 |
| njohnston | Well, I pretty much covered it earlier. What I said was: there is a point of concern: armax says the code may need to be moved to neutron-lib. I dissented, but it remains unresolved. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329701/5/neutron/agent/l3/l3_agent_extension.py@22 | 04:33 |
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| SridarK | njohnston: yes my concerns too - in that this will take more time | 04:33 |
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| njohnston | Other than that the code is coming along. I am working on the code for the fwaas extension that will plug into that agent extension manager, which so far is a disaster, partially because I have had other things come up this week. | 04:34 |
| njohnston | SridarK: Once I get things a bit further along I'd like to chat with you about where I integrate into the existing l3 codebase | 04:35 |
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| SridarK | njohnston: ok no worries, once i get out of my integration task - i can work with u on that | 04:36 |
| njohnston | SridarK: Great! | 04:36 |
| njohnston | that is it for me | 04:36 |
| SridarK | ok great thx njohnston: | 04:36 |
| SridarK | #topic Vendor Driver removal | 04:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Vendor Driver removal (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:37 | |
| SridarK | njohnston: let me take an action on that - i know most of these folks - so will work with them | 04:37 |
| SridarK | #action SridarK to reach out to vendors to remove their drivers | 04:37 |
| njohnston | Great. I just recalled that we had said that would happen by N-2, and since that looms close it seems only right to give them a heads up. | 04:38 |
| SridarK | njohnston: yes absolutely | 04:38 |
| SridarK | if there are no other things we can go to the Open Discussion | 04:39 |
| SridarK | ok | 04:40 |
| SridarK | #topic Open Discussion | 04:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:40 | |
| SridarK | njohnston: PTO plans noted | 04:40 |
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| njohnston | The fwaas devstack plugin merged (yay!) so now on the devstack front the next thing up is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321146 to remove other references to fwaas. I don;t think we need to ride herd on this, we've done our part | 04:41 |
| yushiro | njohnston, awesome! | 04:41 |
| SridarK | njohnston: yay on that for sure - that turned out to be a bit bumpy but i think all is good now | 04:42 |
| SarathMekala | +1 | 04:42 |
| njohnston | I also wanted to note that the #openstack-fwaas channel is logged now - http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-fwaas/ - so we should all keep it in mind for facilitating group discussions | 04:42 |
| SridarK | +1 | 04:43 |
| njohnston | mestery and others are also hanging out there, giving a really positive attitude, which is nice | 04:43 |
| SridarK | agreed | 04:43 |
| hoangcx | +1 | 04:43 |
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| SridarK | I will most likely be on a plane during next weeks mtg | 04:44 |
| SridarK | njohnston: i see that u are out as well | 04:44 |
| njohnston | I will be at a family reunion in Michigan, yes. | 04:44 |
| SridarK | would any one else like to run the mtg | 04:44 |
| SridarK | i will wait to the end of the week, pls drop me a note | 04:45 |
| SridarK | i think xgerman will be back - in which case he will run it | 04:45 |
| SridarK | i will check with him as well | 04:45 |
| njohnston | +1 | 04:46 |
| SridarK | I did not have anything else, any one else have things to discuss ? | 04:46 |
| * njohnston doesn't have anything. | 04:47 | |
| chandanc_ | njhonston, now that we are using neutron legacy , I think we should not merge this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321146 correct ? | 04:47 |
| njohnston | chandanc_: What https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321146 does is stop fwaas from being loaded in the gate whenever the l3 agent is loaded | 04:48 |
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| njohnston | for example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321146/2/devstack-vm-gate.sh keeps it from being loaded for the neutron DVR gate tests | 04:48 |
| chandanc_ | oh | 04:49 |
| njohnston | Now that we have disentangled our complicated inheritance model from the l3 agent I think that is fine | 04:49 |
| SridarK | +1 | 04:49 |
| chandanc_ | ok | 04:50 |
| SridarK | the next few weeks are critical for us to get things moving - so would request folks to keep pushin | 04:50 |
| njohnston | Do we have a clearer idea about a midcycle? | 04:50 |
| SridarK | njohnston: can we hold that thought for the week after next ? | 04:51 |
| njohnston | OK, but I think if the midcycle occurs in August it will be too late | 04:51 |
| SridarK | if we have most of these things working or almost working - we can use the midcycle to push things thru | 04:51 |
| SridarK | i was thinking later part of July | 04:52 |
| SridarK | yes Aug would be too late | 04:52 |
| njohnston | I will be out the last week in July, but otherwise I can accomodate any time | 04:52 |
| SridarK | ok lets shoot for a date just b4 that | 04:52 |
| SridarK | we could do a focussed 2 day sprint | 04:53 |
| njohnston | Sounds great! | 04:53 |
| SridarK | and perhaps another 2 day sprint in Aug for the remaining bits | 04:53 |
| SridarK | 2 was just a notion - it can be 3 which may make more sense too | 04:53 |
| yushiro | SridarK, great. | 04:53 |
| SridarK | we can arrive at some consensus | 04:54 |
| njohnston | sounds like a plan | 04:54 |
| SridarK | ok perfect | 04:55 |
| SridarK | thanks all for attending | 04:55 |
| chandanc_ | thanks | 04:55 |
| SridarK | if nothing else we can close | 04:55 |
| njohnston | Thanks everyone! | 04:55 |
| SridarK | #endmeeting fwaas | 04:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 04:55 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 29 04:55:57 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-06-29-04.00.html | 04:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-06-29-04.00.txt | 04:56 |
| SarathMekala | Thanks | 04:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-06-29-04.00.log.html | 04:56 |
| yushiro | bye! | 04:56 |
| SridarK | Bye all | 04:56 |
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| SarathMekala | o/ | 04:56 |
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| anil_rao | #startmeeting taas | 05:30 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 29 05:30:56 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anil_rao. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:31 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 05:31 |
| soichi | hi | 05:31 |
| anil_rao | Hi | 05:31 |
| kaz | hi | 05:31 |
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| anil_rao | #topic Summit Presentation | 05:32 |
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| soichi | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/w/images/2/20/Draft_20160629-01.png | 05:32 |
| anil_rao | Thanks for putting up the draft abstract. | 05:33 |
| soichi | i found that "Presentation: Max 3 speakers" on the site. | 05:33 |
| anil_rao | Oh, I didn't know that. Must be a new rule. | 05:33 |
| soichi | i think so, too | 05:34 |
| anil_rao | Vinay and I were discussing implementing a dpdk version of TaaS driver. | 05:34 |
| anil_rao | We could use that to do some performance comparisons with the existing one | 05:34 |
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| soichi | it sounds good | 05:34 |
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| anil_rao | I think the perf study along with the async api model will be good. | 05:35 |
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| anil_rao | I also like your thought about traffic isolation in the underlay. That is an important topic so it will be nice. | 05:36 |
| soichi | yes, but i'm afraid that we can implement it on time | 05:36 |
| soichi | thank you | 05:36 |
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| anil_rao | Even if an implemetation is ready in time, we could discuss some concepts and design aspects. | 05:37 |
| anil_rao | not ready, I meant | 05:37 |
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| soichi | agree | 05:37 |
| anil_rao | do you folk want to discuss the perf results that you had posted. | 05:38 |
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| soichi | yes | 05:38 |
| anil_rao | Great | 05:39 |
| anil_rao | #topic Open Discussion - Performance Study results | 05:39 |
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| yamamot__ | hi sorry late | 05:39 |
| anil_rao | Hi | 05:39 |
| kaz | yamamot__: hi | 05:40 |
| soichi | but, we need to some preparation, so we'd like to disscuss it next week | 05:40 |
| anil_rao | kaz,soichi: I went over your perf study. Thanks for sharing it. | 05:40 |
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| anil_rao | soichi: That is okay, then. | 05:40 |
| soichi | thank you | 05:41 |
| kaz | we would like to discuss it the week after next | 05:41 |
| anil_rao | Sure. | 05:42 |
| soichi | i appologies we will be absent next week IRC to attend OpenStack Days Tokyo | 05:42 |
| anil_rao | That sounds interesting. :-) | 05:42 |
| soichi | i hope so! | 05:42 |
| yamamot__ | soichi: which day will you be there? | 05:42 |
| soichi | 1st day | 05:43 |
| kaz | i will go both days | 05:43 |
| anil_rao | Is the format of this even like the main Open Stack Summits? | 05:45 |
| yamamot__ | #link http://openstackdays.com/en/ | 05:46 |
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| yamamot__ | it has sessions and booths. so in that sense it's similar. my impression is it has less technical topics though. | 05:48 |
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| anil_rao | A lot of companies are participating, which is nice. | 05:48 |
| anil_rao | I am getting the test machines in the next couple of days. Hopefully, I'll be able to share some perf results the week following next. | 05:50 |
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| anil_rao | I'll try a multi node setup and see how that fares too. | 05:50 |
| soichi | it sounds great | 05:51 |
| anil_rao | Since we don't have any form of filtering at the moment, I think the need for a separate (dedicated NIC) on the hosts might become important. | 05:51 |
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| soichi | i agree | 05:52 |
| soichi | i think we need to support filtering and/or qos in the future | 05:53 |
| anil_rao | Yes. | 05:53 |
| anil_rao | I think it will also be interesting to see how enabling TaaS for a given set of VMs affects the network performance of other VMs on the same hosts. | 05:54 |
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| soichi | +1 | 05:55 |
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| anil_rao | Lets collect the data and we'll then see how to go about addressing any issues that are discovered. | 05:57 |
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| soichi | sure | 05:57 |
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| anil_rao | Any other topics for open discussion? | 05:58 |
| yamamot__ | nothing from me | 05:58 |
| soichi | i hova no more topics for today | 05:58 |
| kaz | i have no topics | 05:59 |
| soichi | beacuse i will be absent next week IRC, i'd like to continue discussion about presentation in Barcelona Summit offline (email). | 05:59 |
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| anil_rao | soichi: sure. | 05:59 |
| soichi | thank you | 05:59 |
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| anil_rao | We can end early today. :-) | 06:00 |
| soichi | bye | 06:00 |
| anil_rao | bye | 06:00 |
| kaz | bye | 06:00 |
| anil_rao | #endmeeting | 06:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 29 06:00:57 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-06-29-05.30.html | 06:01 |
| yamamot__ | bye | 06:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-06-29-05.30.txt | 06:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-06-29-05.30.log.html | 06:01 |
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| tsufiev | robcresswell, so the tests failed, it's interesting... | 07:58 |
| tsufiev | oops, wrong channel | 07:59 |
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| robcresswell | #startmeeting horizon | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 08:00 |
| robcresswell | Anyone about for meeting? | 08:00 |
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| tsufiev | I was about to see if it's cancelled :) | 08:00 |
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| robcresswell | I found the emails from the original vote | 08:01 |
| robcresswell | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-November/050095.html | 08:02 |
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| robcresswell | It seems to me that the only remaining person from those discussions who wanted the earlier time was Richard | 08:03 |
| robcresswell | So we should probably consider dropping the earlier meeting time slot :) | 08:04 |
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| robcresswell | tsufiev: Sound okay to you? | 08:04 |
| tsufiev | are we going to have one timeslot then, robcresswell? | 08:04 |
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| tsufiev | or shift this one to some other time? | 08:05 |
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| tsufiev | I mean, one timeslot per week | 08:05 |
| robcresswell | I think just one time slot. Previously 1200UTC only had us + occasionally David or Doug. | 08:05 |
| robcresswell | The idea of moving it earlier was to encourage other contributors to join discussion, but they seem reluctant to do so. | 08:06 |
| tsufiev | I'm fine with dropping this one | 08:06 |
| tsufiev | but does that mean that we'll dropping blueprint discussions? | 08:06 |
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| robcresswell | The sensible thing to me seems to have the singular horizon meeting | 08:07 |
| robcresswell | We've gone through a great deal, but few are now being suggested by attendees, so perhaps we should merge the two meetings. | 08:08 |
| tsufiev | agree, less confusion about what particular meeting is next ) | 08:08 |
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| mrunge | iirc, we'll be excluding most Asian contributors, when scheduling a meeting later | 08:09 |
| robcresswell | mrunge: I agree entirely | 08:10 |
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| robcresswell | But otherwise, its me and tsufiev having a nice chat every time until someone shows up | 08:10 |
| mrunge | heh | 08:10 |
| mrunge | a *logged* chat | 08:10 |
| robcresswell | Logs can be read any time too | 08:11 |
| tsufiev | mrunge, what do you think about the morning meeting timeslot? | 08:11 |
| mrunge | yes, right. I meant that more about the nice chat being logged | 08:11 |
| robcresswell | haha I see | 08:11 |
| mrunge | tsufiev, I'm fine with a morning meeting timeslot | 08:11 |
| mrunge | we can not accomodate everybody | 08:11 |
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| tsufiev | hm... | 08:12 |
| robcresswell | If a morning timeslot is requested in the future, I'm happy to run it | 08:12 |
| mrunge | but tbh. I have no idea how to make it work for all of us, being globally distributed | 08:13 |
| robcresswell | Its more an issue that there is nobody to accomodate :) | 08:13 |
| mrunge | contributor numbers went down? | 08:13 |
| mrunge | (sorry, I'm not following closely anymore) | 08:13 |
| tsufiev | mrunge, they speak up by their code, not words | 08:13 |
| robcresswell | I think the contributors we have from asia seem reluctant to be involved in IRC | 08:13 |
| mrunge | is that an irc issue, or a cultural thing? | 08:14 |
| mrunge | I mean, a technical or a cultural issue? | 08:15 |
| robcresswell | I am unsure, to be honest | 08:15 |
| mrunge | when is the mid-cycle for Horizon? | 08:17 |
| robcresswell | I'll bring it up in the evening meeting to discuss further | 08:17 |
| robcresswell | mrunge: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/HorizonNewtonSprint | 08:17 |
| robcresswell | July 12 - 14 | 08:17 |
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| mrunge | Aha, thank you | 08:17 |
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| mrunge | 13 participants | 08:19 |
| robcresswell | :) | 08:19 |
| robcresswell | Its a decent number | 08:19 |
| mrunge | yeah | 08:19 |
| mrunge | that'll be mostly javascript focused, no? | 08:21 |
| robcresswell | I think thats all to mention in this meeting; I'll run through priorities and other items in the evening timeslot, if thats okay with everyone | 08:21 |
| robcresswell | mrunge: I doubt it. We have a number of interesting python pieces of work | 08:21 |
| mrunge | ack | 08:21 |
| robcresswell | I need to double check the dial in actually, we should be able to do a remote call. | 08:22 |
| robcresswell | That could be useful. | 08:22 |
| robcresswell | Right, thanks everyone, see you at the evening meeting :) | 08:23 |
| tsufiev | cya | 08:23 |
| robcresswell | #endmeeting | 08:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 29 08:23:52 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-06-29-08.00.html | 08:23 |
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| claudiub | #startmeeting hyper-v | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 29 13:00:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is claudiub. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 13:00 |
| atuvenie_ | Hi all | 13:00 |
| claudiub | hellooo | 13:00 |
| itoader | Hi | 13:00 |
| abalutoiu | hello | 13:01 |
| claudiub | anyone else around? | 13:01 |
| claudiub | oh well, that means that it might be a very short meeting this time around. :) | 13:02 |
| kvinod | hi all | 13:02 |
| lpetrut | Hi | 13:02 |
| claudiub | #topic designate status | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "designate status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:02 | |
| claudiub | so the os-win patch merged. | 13:02 |
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| claudiub | #link os-win dnsutils https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327846/ | 13:02 |
| claudiub | good job abalutoiu. :) | 13:02 |
| abalutoiu | thanks :) | 13:02 |
| claudiub | it will be included in the os-win 1.1.0 release | 13:03 |
| claudiub | and here's the release request: | 13:03 |
| claudiub | #link os-win 1.1.0 release https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335448/ | 13:03 |
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| claudiub | so, once that's done, the designate patch will have to be updated to use os-win 1.1.0 | 13:03 |
| claudiub | the release will hopefully happen today. will ping some people | 13:04 |
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| sagar_nikam | Hi All | 13:04 |
| claudiub | the designate patch has been reviewed by Graham Hayes, he says it's looking pretty good. | 13:04 |
| sagar_nikam | got delayed a bit today | 13:04 |
| claudiub | so, it probably be over soon. :) | 13:05 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: hellou :) | 13:05 |
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| claudiub | so, yeah, looking good. | 13:05 |
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| claudiub | next topic. | 13:05 |
| claudiub | #topic networking-hyperv status | 13:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "networking-hyperv status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:06 | |
| claudiub | kvinod: did you have a chance to test this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332715/ | 13:06 |
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| kvinod | NO we have not consumed it yet | 13:06 |
| kvinod | We tried recreating the issue around 25 times but no luck | 13:07 |
| claudiub | aham, ok. Well, from I've tested it several times, it works fine. Was hoping we close the bug this week. :) | 13:07 |
| kvinod | so I am not sure of how far it will solve the issue | 13:08 |
| claudiub | strange. what branch? | 13:08 |
| kvinod | We are on Liberty | 13:08 |
| claudiub | hm, from my guess, that would only mean that the bug doesn't exist in liberty. | 13:08 |
| kvinod | As we said in Bug also that it is not always seen but never thought that it will never be seen | 13:09 |
| kvinod | We will consume it if in case we see the issue again on liberty | 13:09 |
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| claudiub | kvinod: well, when I confirmed the bug, I actually checked if it was happening. | 13:10 |
| claudiub | and it was | 13:10 |
| claudiub | I only checked on master though. | 13:10 |
| kvinod | anyways its good to see it being fixed on master | 13:10 |
| kvinod | claudiub: thaks anyways | 13:10 |
| claudiub | yeah.. no problem. :) | 13:11 |
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| kvinod | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328210/ | 13:11 |
| claudiub | as for the other patch, I saw that there were a couple of new patchsets today. | 13:11 |
| kvinod | new patch is uploaded | 13:11 |
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| claudiub | jenkins still fails though. | 13:11 |
| kvinod | Jenkin failing, we are working on it | 13:11 |
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| kvinod | in the mean time you can have a look into the changes and confirm that it addresses your comment | 13:12 |
| claudiub | yeah. looks ok, will comment on it. | 13:12 |
| kvinod | sure thanks, we will fix Jenkin failure | 13:12 |
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| claudiub | cool, thanks. :) | 13:13 |
| claudiub | next topic | 13:13 |
| kvinod | can you share any update on Microsoft certification on OVS | 13:13 |
| kvinod | last meeting you said you will ask and let us know | 13:13 |
| kvinod | claudiub: any update :) | 13:14 |
| claudiub | still ongoing, but there isn't anything I know about the topic.. | 13:14 |
| kvinod | can you suggest some contact who can give us update on this | 13:15 |
| kvinod | we can start email keeping you in loop | 13:15 |
| kvinod | claudiub: the intention was to get idea on plan and probable date | 13:16 |
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| claudiub | yeah, probably our colleague aserdean might know more about this | 13:17 |
| claudiub | as he's been working on the OVS on Windows. | 13:17 |
| kvinod | ok, I should be able to get email id of aserdean from launchpad? | 13:18 |
| kvinod | I will get in touch with aserdean | 13:18 |
| kvinod | , thanks | 13:18 |
| claudiub | kvinod: yep. | 13:18 |
| claudiub | kvinod: https://launchpad.net/~aserdean | 13:19 |
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| kvinod | fine, thanks | 13:19 |
| claudiub | #topic windows containers | 13:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "windows containers (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:19 | |
| claudiub | atuvenie: hello. :) | 13:19 |
| atuvenie | hello :) | 13:20 |
| claudiub | atuvenie: enlighten us with news on this topic. :) | 13:20 |
| atuvenie | so, we've had some progress with running kublets on windows | 13:20 |
| sagar_nikam | nice topic.... | 13:20 |
| atuvenie | now I'm working on making it also work with OVS | 13:20 |
| atuvenie | to be able to use gre/vxlan | 13:21 |
| atuvenie | I'm trying to replicate the way it works on linux | 13:21 |
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| sagar_nikam | atuvenie: you mean OVS support for containers ? | 13:22 |
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| atuvenie | sagar_nikam: yes, we want to use ovs with kubernetes on windows | 13:23 |
| atuvenie | that's where I am now, but the good news is that kublets seem to work on windows | 13:24 |
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| sagar_nikam | atuvenie: is it working ? | 13:25 |
| atuvenie | sagar_nikam: kublets work on windows, using ovs with containers is still a work in progress | 13:26 |
| sagar_nikam | ok.. thanks | 13:26 |
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| claudiub | well, having kublets working on windows is a big step forward. :) | 13:27 |
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| claudiub | anyways. next topic. | 13:27 |
| claudiub | #topic open discussion | 13:27 |
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| sagar_nikam | FreeRDP | 13:28 |
| claudiub | sooo... a few weeks ago, there was a question if we could migrate neutron hyper-v ports to ovs ports, or something like that. This is just a theory, but I think there's a way to do so with 0 downtime. | 13:28 |
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| sagar_nikam | claudiub: are you planning to test it ? | 13:29 |
| claudiub | what I am thinking is this: host A is using networking-hyperv and host B is using OVS. if you live-migrate instances from A to B, then, the ports should be then OVS ports. | 13:29 |
| kvinod | claudiub: what is the way with 0 downtime | 13:29 |
| claudiub | as at live-migration, the ports are migrated as well. | 13:30 |
| claudiub | though, as I said, it is just a theory. I didn't test it. | 13:30 |
| sagar_nikam | ports migrated from networking-hyperv to OVS ? | 13:30 |
| claudiub | yeah. basically the ports will be rebound on host B, which has neutron-ovs-agent. | 13:31 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:32 |
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| kvinod | claudiub: you mean in that case we atleast need two computes to perform migration from hyperv to ovs | 13:32 |
| claudiub | anyways, if anyone is willing to try it out, it would be great. :) | 13:32 |
| claudiub | yeah. | 13:32 |
| sagar_nikam | kvinod: you have any plans to check it ? | 13:32 |
| claudiub | cold migration should work too, but that has some downtime. | 13:33 |
| kvinod | ok, good approach | 13:33 |
| atuvenie | claudiub: yeah,but how does neutron deal with this? Because you are basically moving between networks? The source one is vlan (Hyper-V)and the destination is vxlan? | 13:33 |
| claudiub | yeah, ofcouse, you can't move from hyper-v vlan to ovs vxlan | 13:33 |
| claudiub | the network will stay the same, ofcourse. | 13:33 |
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| kvinod | sagar_nikam: yes sure we will try it but will not commit on dates now, but yes we will have it as action item later when we encounter migration | 13:34 |
| sagar_nikam | kvinod: thanks | 13:34 |
| claudiub | if there's a neutron hyper-v port, then it probably is vlan. when you live-migrate, you don't change the network. | 13:34 |
| atuvenie | claudiub: so basically it's just confined to vlan with networking hyper-v -> vlan with ovs ? | 13:34 |
| claudiub | atuvenie: yep. | 13:35 |
| claudiub | gre should work too. | 13:35 |
| atuvenie | would nvgre with networking-hyperv -> gre with ovs work? | 13:35 |
| atuvenie | I guess so | 13:36 |
| atuvenie | oh, you already said that,sorry I seem to lag a little | 13:36 |
| claudiub | yeah, that's my opinion. | 13:36 |
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| claudiub | as for other news, I have been working on this thingy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331889/ | 13:38 |
| claudiub | it's part of a quite large spec. the main idea is that you can give names / tag different instance NICs, block_devices (volumes, ephemerals) | 13:39 |
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| claudiub | which can be very useful if you have something like 10 block devices on an instance. it will be easier to distinguish them, as they have a user-given name. | 13:39 |
| claudiub | for example if you do: nova boot --nic net-id=$net_id,tag=lenet test-vm | 13:40 |
| claudiub | then that VM's NIC will be tagged as 'lenet'. | 13:40 |
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| claudiub | soo, yeah. | 13:41 |
| claudiub | questions? | 13:41 |
| sagar_nikam | no from me | 13:43 |
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| claudiub | k. anything else? | 13:43 |
| sagar_nikam | yes | 13:43 |
| claudiub | shoot | 13:43 |
| sagar_nikam | we hit a issue with FreeRDP. c64cosmin: is working on it | 13:44 |
| sagar_nikam | https://github.com/FreeRDP/FreeRDP-WebConnect/issues/149 | 13:44 |
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| sagar_nikam | the issue is FreeRDP does not authenticate the keystone token if the rest endpoint is TLS enabled | 13:45 |
| c64cosmin | yes, I'm working on it | 13:45 |
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| sagar_nikam | waiting for a fix, whenever c64cosmin: gets it fixed, we will pick up and test | 13:45 |
| c64cosmin | it seems to be a cpprestsdk problem, we're using this lib for the authentication | 13:46 |
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| sagar_nikam | thanks c64cosmin: for working on this | 13:46 |
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| c64cosmin | thanks sagar for pointing it out | 13:46 |
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| sagar_nikam | claudiub: next topic, we will soon move to Mitaka, we are planning to check cluster driver soon | 13:47 |
| claudiub | anything else? | 13:47 |
| sagar_nikam | possibly this week | 13:48 |
| sagar_nikam | we will let you know if we hit any issue | 13:48 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: i see. :) | 13:48 |
| claudiub | sounds good. | 13:48 |
| sagar_nikam | i am done with my topics | 13:49 |
| claudiub | cool, me too. :) | 13:49 |
| claudiub | anyone anything else? | 13:49 |
| claudiub | if not, we might have out shortest meeting yet. :) | 13:49 |
| sagar_nikam | thanks all... early end today | 13:49 |
| claudiub | cool. thanks folks for joining, see you next week! | 13:50 |
| atuvenie | see ya! | 13:50 |
| claudiub | #endmeeting | 13:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 13:50 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 29 13:50:31 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-06-29-13.00.html | 13:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-06-29-13.00.txt | 13:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-06-29-13.00.log.html | 13:50 |
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| njohnston | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 29 14:00:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is njohnston. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 14:00 |
| njohnston | #chair ajo | 14:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: ajo njohnston | 14:00 |
| njohnston | good morning all | 14:00 |
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| njohnston | #topic announcements | 14:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:00 | |
| njohnston | We are in week R-14; N-2 is at R-12 http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 14:01 |
| njohnston | Also, keep an eye on QoS commands for the OSC transition: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osc-neutron-support - AFAIK we haven't done anything on this yet. | 14:01 |
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| ajo_ | we're in the middle of the cycle. | 14:01 |
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| njohnston | Yep! And I think we have had good velocity for change of late. Just making sure we don't forget. | 14:02 |
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| njohnston | Anyone have anything else for announcements? | 14:02 |
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| njohnston | #topic Approved RFEs | 14:03 |
| njohnston | #link http://tinyurl.com/qos-rfe-approved | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Approved RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:03 | |
| njohnston | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1560961 | 14:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560961 in neutron "[RFE] Allow instance-ingress bandwidth limiting" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:04 |
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| njohnston | Last I heard, slaweq has stopped working on this pending https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1586056 (extended validation) | 14:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1586056 in neutron "[RFE] Improved validation mechanism for QoS rules with port types" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:04 |
| njohnston | Change is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303626/ | 14:04 |
| njohnston | and the other approved RFE is | 14:04 |
| njohnston | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1560963 | 14:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560963 in neutron "[RFE] Minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 14:04 |
| ajo_ | correct | 14:04 |
| ajo_ | we need to settle into something and do the job, to unblock the other things | 14:04 |
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| njohnston | indeed | 14:05 |
| njohnston | I don't think there si much tot alk about here | 14:05 |
| njohnston | I don't think there is much to talk about here | 14:06 |
| njohnston | #topic Not Yet Approved RFEs | 14:06 |
| njohnston | #link http://tinyurl.com/qos-rfe-unapproved | 14:06 |
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| njohnston | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505627 | 14:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1505627 in neutron "[RFE] QoS Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) Support" [Wishlist,Incomplete] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 14:06 |
| njohnston | This is reedip's ECN RFE | 14:06 |
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| njohnston | I do not see reedip online | 14:07 |
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| njohnston | But for the record, what I'd like to see on this: use cases, and some sketch of details on a reference implementation. | 14:07 |
| njohnston | ECN is autonegotiated if both sides indicate they can support it. If our implementation is going to go beyond just enabling/disabling support, we need to see how it will work without Neutron having to inspect packets at line rate. | 14:07 |
| njohnston | I will link in the bug to the meeting log. | 14:08 |
| njohnston | ajo_: Does that pretty well cover this? | 14:08 |
| davidsha | Think he's DC | 14:09 |
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| njohnston | ok | 14:09 |
| njohnston | hello davidsha! | 14:09 |
| davidsha | hey :D | 14:09 |
| njohnston | moving on to | 14:09 |
| njohnston | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1586056 | 14:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1586056 in neutron "[RFE] Improved validation mechanism for QoS rules with port types" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:09 |
| njohnston | This is the big blocker | 14:09 |
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| njohnston | Looks like we are waiting on ihrachys to respond to Ajo's question on the bug. | 14:10 |
| ajo_ | which one sorry, | 14:10 |
| ajo_ | to make things funnier, I'm having connection issues | 14:10 |
| davidsha | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1586056 | 14:10 |
| ajo_ | thanks | 14:10 |
| njohnston | Oh that's just unfair | 14:10 |
| davidsha | np | 14:10 |
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| ihrachys | does it require my involvement? hm. | 14:10 |
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| ihrachys | I think the last comment from @ajo addresses the goal neatly | 14:11 |
| ajo_ | njohnston, there was no question, we're talking on the spec | 14:11 |
| njohnston | ajo_: OK, I mis-read it then. So we are in accord? | 14:11 |
| ajo_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323474/6 | 14:11 |
| ajo_ | the remaining question was if we were proposing to introduce a field to a rule in the spec, which is not the case | 14:11 |
| ajo_ | so I will clarify that, | 14:11 |
| ajo_ | but still, we must do parameter validation (not just rule type validation) to have something complete and (hopefully) no need to worry about that again (how optimistic I am..) | 14:12 |
| ihrachys | right. so just remove the notion of --direction, and it should be good | 14:12 |
| ajo_ | I will make the example agnostic | 14:12 |
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| ihrachys | and then when we need --direction, we build on top of the validation framework you introduce with the spec | 14:12 |
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| ihrachys | does it capture the idea properly? | 14:12 |
| davidsha | ihrachys: he just disconnected I think | 14:13 |
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| * ajo_ curses his connection | 14:13 | |
| ihrachys | ajo_: "and then when we need --direction, we build on top of the validation framework you introduce with the spec" | 14:13 |
| ihrachys | is it correct? | 14:13 |
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| ajo_ | I would do all the validation now, and then we we have --direction, we add the direction possibilities per mechanism driver | 14:13 |
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| ihrachys | right. I think I expressed the same thing. we are on the same page. | 14:14 |
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| ihrachys | does the spec include expanding the list of supported rule types to superset? | 14:14 |
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| ihrachys | I assume no, but better check | 14:14 |
| ihrachys | because the original patch from slaweq included that too, I think | 14:14 |
| ajo_ | you're right on both things | 14:15 |
| ajo_ | we should not change the semantics of the API reporting | 14:15 |
| ajo_ | eventually we can make a different reporting later, or through microversioning in the future | 14:15 |
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| ajo_ | but without microversioning it should be a different url, anyway, that's out of the spec, and we could bring it up if necessary in the future | 14:16 |
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| ajo_ | reporting is out, basically because there were a few inconsistiencies in the possibilities of vnic / binding_type, etc... | 14:16 |
| ajo_ | so | 14:17 |
| ajo_ | #action ajo bump the extended validation spec to address Ihar comments & concerns | 14:17 |
| * ajo_ wonders if he's still online, and pings himself :D | 14:17 | |
| ihrachys | I will check the spec right now to make sure you have everything to address in one go | 14:17 |
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| davidsha | your good :) | 14:17 |
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| njohnston | Great, thanks ihrachys and ajo_. That definitely made things clearer for me. | 14:18 |
| njohnston | #topic Bugs | 14:19 |
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| njohnston | #link http://bit.ly/1WhXlzm\ | 14:19 |
| njohnston | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-ovn/+bug/1584204 | 14:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1584204 in neutron "VersionsCallbackNotFound exception when using QoS" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to John Kasperski (jckasper) | 14:19 |
| njohnston | I think this is done now for master, working on mitaka backport | 14:19 |
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| njohnston | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1589969 | 14:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1589969 in neutron "[qos][postgresql] neutron qos-bandwidth-limit-rule-create failed" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Angel Ajo (mangelajo) | 14:20 |
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| njohnston | No action on this yet. ajo_ linked to a bug that has since been resolved, it looks like, but in a way where I'm not sure how that affects pgsql setups. | 14:20 |
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| njohnston | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1515564 | 14:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1515564 in neutron "Internal server error when running qos-bandwidth-limit-rule-update as a tenant" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Liyingjun (liyingjun) | 14:21 |
| ihrachys | I think I posted there what's the clue | 14:21 |
| ihrachys | for the prev bug you mentioned... | 14:21 |
| njohnston | The pgsql one? | 14:22 |
| ihrachys | yes | 14:22 |
| davidsha | this PS right? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300055/ | 14:22 |
| njohnston | ah, I see | 14:22 |
| ihrachys | we don't use common_db_mixin mechanisms for get_objects/get_object till M/N | 14:23 |
| ihrachys | and we should | 14:23 |
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| ihrachys | that should hide the issue for psql | 14:23 |
| ihrachys | davidsha: yes, pieces of it | 14:23 |
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| ajo_ | I was saying: I'm having some busy time until past mid july, and then I can jump into it, but if anyone else has cycles to look at it, I can release the bug | 14:24 |
| ihrachys | I think it's now a matter of backports | 14:24 |
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| ihrachys | I would mark as fixed, add tags for backports, and go on with your life | 14:25 |
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| ajo_ | ihrachys, we need to verify it really went away | 14:25 |
| ajo_ | at least :) | 14:25 |
| slaweq | hello, sorry for late | 14:25 |
| ihrachys | ajo_: as you wish :) | 14:26 |
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| njohnston | Hi slaweq! | 14:26 |
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| njohnston | #action Make sure https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1589969 is fixed, then add tags for backports | 14:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1589969 in neutron "[qos][postgresql] neutron qos-bandwidth-limit-rule-create failed" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:26 |
| ihrachys | njohnston: whose action is it? | 14:27 |
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| njohnston | I don't have a pgsql setup, but I can take a whack at it | 14:27 |
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| slaweq | I have devstack with pgsql running | 14:28 |
| ihrachys | should probably be easy with devstack | 14:28 |
| slaweq | so I can check it if You want | 14:28 |
| njohnston | slaweq: I will take you up on that then | 14:28 |
| njohnston | #undo | 14:28 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0x7f2b36a23d10> | 14:28 |
| njohnston | #action slaweq to make sure https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1589969 is fixed, then add tags for backports | 14:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1589969 in neutron "[qos][postgresql] neutron qos-bandwidth-limit-rule-create failed" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:29 |
| slaweq | ok | 14:29 |
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| njohnston | Thanks slaweq | 14:29 |
| njohnston | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1515564 | 14:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1515564 in neutron "Internal server error when running qos-bandwidth-limit-rule-update as a tenant" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Liyingjun (liyingjun) | 14:30 |
| njohnston | This one is still active, looks like there is some feedback to address | 14:30 |
| ajo_ | slaweq++ | 14:30 |
| njohnston | but I think it's getting close | 14:30 |
| ihrachys | there is a lot of things to address there | 14:31 |
| ihrachys | because we went the new version of the objects path | 14:31 |
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| ihrachys | note that the fix as proposed now won't be backportable | 14:32 |
| njohnston | Does this one need a reno note? | 14:32 |
| ihrachys | I don't think so. | 14:33 |
| njohnston | ok | 14:33 |
| ihrachys | it fixes a bug, nothing fancy | 14:33 |
| ihrachys | even though the fix is involving | 14:33 |
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| njohnston | #topic Open Discussion | 14:34 |
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| njohnston | A QoS question came up in the mailing list. I haven't had the bandwidth to really think about it, but I wanted to see if anyone wanted to respond. | 14:35 |
| njohnston | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/098207.html | 14:35 |
| ihrachys | hm, qg maintains all FIPs at the same time right? | 14:36 |
| ajo_ | yes, to implement that we need to do it on the routers | 14:36 |
| ihrachys | so you can't just TC on the gq port | 14:36 |
| ajo_ | or, in the DVR implementation details... | 14:37 |
| ajo_ | but yes, doing it on the vm ports won't help | 14:37 |
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| ihrachys | well we could apply FIP port policies on relevant VM ports, but that is twisted behaviour for my taste | 14:37 |
| ihrachys | because it will still limit internal traffic | 14:37 |
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| ihrachys | a router would probably need to apply some advanced traffic classification to slow down traffic destined for specific fixed ips | 14:38 |
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| njohnston | OK, good, I thought that the answer was not totally straightforward. | 14:40 |
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| njohnston | Should we encourage the author to file this as a bug so we can discuss it in more detail in launchpad? | 14:41 |
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| * njohnston fears we lost ajo_ for good. | 14:42 | |
| ihrachys | njohnston: I think we should suggest RFE | 14:43 |
| ajo | njohnston, may be an RFE makes sense here | 14:43 |
| ajo | to keep us all thinking about it | 14:43 |
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| njohnston | OK, I will respond to the author | 14:43 |
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| njohnston | #action njohnston to respond to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/098207.html and suggest RFE | 14:44 |
| njohnston | My only other items is that I will be out on PTO next week (7/6), as well 7/27 | 14:44 |
| slaweq | may I have one question? | 14:45 |
| njohnston | slaweq: By all means, go ahead | 14:45 |
| slaweq | it's about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303626/ - I back to work on it littlebit | 14:45 |
| slaweq | and I have problem with db upgrades | 14:45 |
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| slaweq | if I want to add "direction" column to bw_limit rules I need to remove unique constraint for qos_policy_id fk | 14:46 |
| slaweq | and add unique constraint for pair policy_id - direction | 14:46 |
| ihrachys | slaweq: right | 14:46 |
| slaweq | and there is some problem with such upgrade in pgsql | 14:46 |
| slaweq | maybe someone of You could take a look on that and help me | 14:47 |
| ihrachys | slaweq: logs? | 14:47 |
| slaweq | db upgrade is going fine | 14:47 |
| slaweq | but functional test is not passing | 14:47 |
| slaweq | because unique constraint for qos_policy_id is not removed in pgsql | 14:48 |
| ihrachys | do you use remove_foreign_keys ? | 14:48 |
| slaweq | so there is no match between alembic scripts and model | 14:48 |
| njohnston | I see. | 14:48 |
| slaweq | yes | 14:48 |
| njohnston | AssertionError: Models and migration scripts aren't in sync: | 14:48 |
| njohnston | [ ( 'remove_constraint', | 14:48 |
| njohnston | UniqueConstraint(Column('qos_policy_id', VARCHAR(length=36), ForeignKey(u'qos_policies.id'), ForeignKey(u'qos_policies.id'), ForeignKey(u'qos_policies.id'), ForeignKey(u'qos_policies.id'), table=<qos_bandwidth_limit_rules>, nullable=False)))] | 14:48 |
| slaweq | and this function is not fine even for mysql | 14:48 |
| slaweq | because if You are removing fk, unique constraint is not removed | 14:48 |
| slaweq | so for mysql You need to remove fk and then remove unique constraint | 14:49 |
| ihrachys | slaweq: you probably want to ask HenryG | 14:49 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: ok, that tip I expected :) | 14:49 |
| slaweq | thx a log | 14:49 |
| slaweq | *lot | 14:49 |
| slaweq | so that's all from my side | 14:49 |
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| njohnston | Does anyone have anything else? | 14:50 |
| njohnston | I'll be interested to see what QoS-related talks are proposed for Barcelona. | 14:50 |
| davidsha | I was thinking of doing an OpenFlow talk, what it is, what it can do how to use it. Would probably touch on the flow manager too. | 14:51 |
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| njohnston | davidsha: Nice. | 14:52 |
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| njohnston | OK, I think that's it... have a lovely day everyone. | 14:53 |
| njohnston | #endmeeting | 14:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 29 14:53:26 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-06-29-14.00.html | 14:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-06-29-14.00.txt | 14:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-06-29-14.00.log.html | 14:53 |
| davidsha | you too, thanks! | 14:53 |
| ajo | o/ thanks njohnston | 14:54 |
| ajo | and * :) | 14:54 |
| slaweq | thx | 14:54 |
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| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 29 15:00:51 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Monasca Newton mid-cycle | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Where: Remote via WebEx | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Date: July 19th and July 20th 2016 | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 3.https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca_newton_midcycle | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Discuss the bluprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/notification-engine-plugin | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 3.Multi-step Alarm Definition Form | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | •https://review.openstack.org/331582 | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | •https://review.openstack.org/332731/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 3. Other reviews | 15:01 |
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| rhochmuth | •https://review.openstack.org/327000/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | •https://review.openstack.org/327481/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | hi everyone | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | o/ | 15:01 |
| iurygregory | o/ | 15:01 |
| koji | o/ | 15:01 |
| silvamatteus | o/ | 15:01 |
| witek | hi | 15:01 |
| shinya_kwbt | o/ | 15:01 |
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| hosanai | o/ | 15:01 |
| slogan | o/ | 15:01 |
| Quentin_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| arturbasiak | o/ | 15:01 |
| cbellucci | o/ | 15:01 |
| tomasztrebski | o/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | is that all that is hear today? | 15:01 |
| bklei | o/ | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | your late | 15:02 |
| bklei | sorry | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | np | 15:02 |
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| rhochmuth | i'm in teacher mode i guess | 15:02 |
| bklei | instruct away! | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | let's see, i wanted to cover some high-level stuff | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | The Monasca Newton Mid-Cycle date, time and location has been set | 15:03 |
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| rhochmuth | There is also an Etherpad at, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca_newton_midcycle | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | If folks want to start adding topics to the agenda that would be great | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | We'll be using Webex for the mid-cycle | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | Courtesy of Fabio and Cisco | 15:04 |
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| rhochmuth | I also wanted to mentiion the Barcelona Summit again | 15:04 |
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| rhochmuth | Currently thinking about the following: | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | 1. One hand-on session similar to Ausint | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | 2. One Hands-on session that is more about deployment and getting up and running | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | 3. Monasca Overview covering new features, components, deployments, integrations with over openstack projects, ... | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | If folks are interested please let me know | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | witek and I are planning on some of t his right now | 15:06 |
| witek | yes, we could definitely contribute on 1 and 3 | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | but i'm completely open to others taking this on too | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | thx witek | 15:06 |
| witek | with 2 i'm not sure yey | 15:06 |
| witek | yet | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | i dont' wnat o monopoize all of this | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | even though it probably seems that way | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | i'm just trying to get things started | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | we'll also run monasca design summit sessions, similar to austin | 15:07 |
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| rhochmuth | which we can hopefully this time around get into more techical discussions | 15:07 |
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| rhochmuth | also, july 13th is the deadline for barcelona submissions | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | this advertisement brought to you by openstack | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | so, i woudl like to move on to the next topic | 15:09 |
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| shinya_kwbt | I'm interesting in 1 and 2. But I have no confidence of English. | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | thx shinya_kwbt | 15:09 |
| bklei | i'd be interested in helping, but not looking good for travel to barcelona for us new charter guys | 15:10 |
| bklei | should know more next week | 15:10 |
| tomasztrebski | assuming it will be possible for me to come, I will coordinate with Witek or you | 15:10 |
| shinya_kwbt | But I can write manuscript before summit. | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | thx bklei | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | thank tomasz | 15:10 |
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| rhochmuth | so let's coordinate offline via email then if that works for folks | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | if anyone else want to get invovled feel free to contact me | 15:11 |
| bklei | thumbsup | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | #topic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/notification-engine-plugin | 15:11 |
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| rhochmuth | so, we have a new bp proposal | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | some code has already been posted | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | haneef: are you here | 15:12 |
| haneef_ | yes | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | so, i'll let you walk people through this and then they can ask questions | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | and follow-up | 15:13 |
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| rhochmuth | the floor is yours | 15:13 |
| haneef_ | Basically it is an ability to add new notification types ( hipchat, slack, anything of your choice) without any code change | 15:13 |
| haneef_ | All you need to write is a plugin for the new notification types | 15:13 |
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| bklei | awesome idea | 15:13 |
| iurygregory | +1 very good idea =) | 15:13 |
| ericksonsantos_ | sounds great | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | i never get that | 15:14 |
| bklei | you're not haneef :) | 15:14 |
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| haneef_ | -- There are 3 changes. Remove hardcoded enum from monasca-api, add plugin support in monasca-notification, add new REST api to get supported notification-types and corresponding change in monasca-client | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | i've reviewed and it all looks good to me | 15:15 |
| haneef_ | Any questions or clarifications? | 15:15 |
| witek | the change in monasca-api is only in Java | 15:15 |
| bklei | all sounds good to me -- one request -- please merge the changes to all 3 repos at the same time (or close to it), so folks don't get blocked from bringing in any of the repos | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | the change will also be in the python api | 15:16 |
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| haneef_ | Will also be in python-api | 15:16 |
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| rhochmuth | haneef: would it be possible to do python api in same review for java? | 15:16 |
| bklei | +1 | 15:16 |
| haneef_ | Yes. Will add python-api too | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | thx | 15:16 |
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| tomasztrebski | I had just one remark that I put in the comment, but I think that you will refactor the change to handle that, right ? I am telling about the fact that new notifications aren't in fact pluggable | 15:18 |
| haneef_ | yes | 15:18 |
| tomasztrebski | btw: I also like that change :D | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | ok, unless there are more comments/questions for haneef_, i think we are done on this topic | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | does anyone want to write an irc plugin | 15:19 |
| tomasztrebski | ]:-> | 15:20 |
| tomasztrebski | tempting.... | 15:20 |
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| rhochmuth | does tinder support plugins? | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | never mind | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | thanks haneef_ | 15:20 |
| bklei | oh man | 15:21 |
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| rhochmuth | so, let's close on this topic and we can move on to other fun stuff | 15:21 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic 3.Multi-step Alarm Definition Form | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | •https://review.openstack.org/331582 | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | •https://review.openstack.org/332731/ | 15:21 |
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| witek | I wanted to bring some attention to Tomasz' changes | 15:22 |
| witek | in the UI | 15:22 |
| witek | which allow to define alarms with logical operators | 15:22 |
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| tomasztrebski | these are "really" small changes :) | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | so, it sounds like you are looking for some review from outside of fujitsu | 15:24 |
| shinya_kwbt | Really?? +480, -203changed! you are tough!! | 15:24 |
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| rhochmuth | bklei and shinya_kwbt probably should take a look at this | 15:25 |
| shinya_kwbt | I will test tommorrow. | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | thx | 15:25 |
| tomasztrebski | second one is even bigger, had to do some angular there...quite a lot actually | 15:25 |
| witek | shinya_kwbt: thanks | 15:25 |
| tomasztrebski | well this is monasca and fujitsu, if it would be up to me or witek that would be merged already, but that's for the community to decide | 15:26 |
| bklei | rhochmuth: will try to pull in and test today or tomorrow, looked at the code and seemed OK to me | 15:26 |
| tomasztrebski | basically multi-step change gives better look@feel matched to horizon and a room to put more expressions in the same page | 15:26 |
| witek | thanks Brad | 15:26 |
| bklei | np | 15:26 |
| tomasztrebski | multi-expression adds the feature known for long from monaca-client | 15:27 |
| tomasztrebski | thx guys :) | 15:27 |
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| rhochmuth | i'll look at the final ui after it is merged | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | and probably be in awe | 15:28 |
| tomasztrebski | I thought you already are ;-) | 15:28 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic 3. Other reviews | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | •https://review.openstack.org/327000/ | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | •https://review.openstack.org/327481/ | 15:29 |
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| rhochmuth | i just reviewed again prior to the meeting and +1'd | 15:29 |
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| rhochmuth | seems like it is ready to merge | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | thanks tomasz | 15:29 |
| bklei | tomasz -- good news, we're going to start pulling in and playing with monasca-log-api at twc/charter | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | great news | 15:30 |
| witek | great | 15:30 |
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| witek | what is charter? | 15:31 |
| tomasztrebski | <3 <3 <3 <3 | 15:31 |
| bklei | the company that bought twc | 15:31 |
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| tomasztrebski | I hope you are going to like that ;-) | 15:31 |
| bklei | time will tell :) | 15:31 |
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| tomasztrebski | http://www.charter.net/ | 15:31 |
| tomasztrebski | that one ? | 15:31 |
| bklei | yup | 15:32 |
| bklei | they bought/acquired us and brighthouse | 15:32 |
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| rhochmuth | if things dont' workout at charter you can always come back | 15:32 |
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| bklei | :) or we could hire u? | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | maybe i could start writing code again then | 15:33 |
| bklei | and u could get free cable | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | so, besides me, is someone else going to review that code | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | for tomasz | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | bklei? | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | i'll ping tsv as well | 15:34 |
| bklei | sure, will look now | 15:34 |
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| rhochmuth | thx bklei | 15:34 |
| bklei | don't know that code well but will look | 15:35 |
| tomasztrebski | I'd appreciate guys that handle monasca-agent or thresh to look at new metrics...especially naming and if chosen meters are correct (i.e. gauge for that, counter for that) | 15:35 |
| tomasztrebski | for naming I think we should be done | 15:35 |
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| rhochmuth | so, i think that is a wrap on today's topics | 15:36 |
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| rhochmuth | i can open it up for open discussion now | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | if anyone has somethign else that they would like to discuss | 15:37 |
| tomasztrebski | I'd like to ask some help here | 15:37 |
| bklei | one from me -- hope to have a review up for new dimensions api this week if all goes well | 15:37 |
| bklei | this will help grafana templating | 15:37 |
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| tomasztrebski | I am no bash expert and maybe that change is not worth it but if someone could look at > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333738/ I'd appreciate that | 15:37 |
| tomasztrebski | change explains itself, so I won't take time here and discuss that | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | the change looks fine to me | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | i was in the process of testign and got side tracked | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | i'm assuming if it installs in devstack i'll just merge it | 15:39 |
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| tomasztrebski | this is for me or bklei ? | 15:39 |
| tomasztrebski | * to me | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | to u | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | bklei: do you have a bp or discussion on the dimensions resource | 15:40 |
| slogan | tomasztrebski: looks ok, but why the '>>' to /dev/null vs '>' - appending doesn't really make sense to the bitbucket | 15:40 |
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| bklei | only what we discussed here a couple weeks ago rhochmuth | 15:40 |
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| bklei | tomasztrebski and witek -- one of our engineers here looking at logging has some questions -- ok to connect you with him (nathan)? | 15:41 |
| witek | sure | 15:42 |
| bklei | thx | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | tomasz see slogan's question above | 15:43 |
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| slogan | it's no giant deal, works either way, just a nit :-) | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | thx slogan | 15:44 |
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| rhochmuth | btw slogan, are you planning on submitting broadview for barcelona | 15:44 |
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| rhochmuth | you can submit again | 15:44 |
| slogan | I think we are forced to sit out this year | 15:44 |
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| slogan | travel got tight | 15:45 |
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| rhochmuth | yeah, barcelona is expensive | 15:45 |
| slogan | that said, I'm open to producing content | 15:45 |
| slogan | even if I can't be there | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | thx | 15:46 |
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| rhochmuth | will possibly take you up on that | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | bklei: so what are you planning on doing with dimensions resource | 15:46 |
| slogan | rhochmuth: please do | 15:46 |
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| bklei | pretty simple rhochmuth -- for a given dimension name -- list all the values | 15:47 |
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| bklei | right now templating does a full metric-list -- expensive | 15:48 |
| tomasztrebski | btw, would you guys be opened to some sort of validate_expression method in API, I am asking from the monasca-ui POV | 15:48 |
| bklei | tomasztrebski the alternative is the alarm def create fails? | 15:48 |
| tomasztrebski | current validation in monasca-ui that happens during editing of alarm definition has a bug I guess, if you create compound expression from CLI and want to edit that in UI it is not always possible | 15:49 |
| tomasztrebski | the method in EditAlarmForm says that "value must be a number" as far as I remember | 15:50 |
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| bklei | i think i've seen that -- and been forced to CLI -- changes welcome in the UI there! | 15:50 |
| tomasztrebski | it would be API+UI and I would have to discuss that first with my PO, but if he accepts I might be able to push that to review | 15:51 |
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| bklei | bueno | 15:52 |
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| tomasztrebski | ok, so I will discuss that and either create BP or bug for that, most likely I bug since that should be possible to be done | 15:54 |
| tomasztrebski | *a bug | 15:54 |
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| rhochmuth | thx tomasz | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | i think we are done for today | 15:57 |
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| tomasztrebski | that was unusual meeting, all those before I remember that we always ran out of time ;-) | 15:57 |
| bklei | thx rhochmuth | 15:57 |
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| rhochmuth | thx everyone | 15:58 |
| witek | thanks Roland, thanks everyone | 15:58 |
| tomasztrebski | cheers....now shower.... | 15:58 |
| tomasztrebski | :D | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | tmi | 15:58 |
| tomasztrebski | bye and see you all next time | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 29 15:58:56 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-06-29-15.00.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-06-29-15.00.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-06-29-15.00.log.html | 15:59 |
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| markvoelker | #startmeeting defcore | 15:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 29 15:59:48 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markvoelker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:59 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'defcore' | 15:59 |
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| markvoelker | #chair hogepodge | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Current chairs: hogepodge markvoelker | 16:00 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 16:00 |
| shamail | Hi | 16:00 |
| markvoelker | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreLunar.9 Today's agenda | 16:00 |
| catherineD | o/ | 16:00 |
| gema | o/ | 16:00 |
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| markvoelker | Hi gang, let's dive in... | 16:01 |
| markvoelker | #topic Board meeting recap | 16:01 |
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| Rockyg | o/ | 16:01 |
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| markvoelker | Yesterday was the most recent BoD meeting and we shared a few updates with them | 16:02 |
| markvoelker | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/13yB9LbtFGh24lVo-KtwVBRXx7zYbvLDY_7EcQ1aAmos/edit?usp=sharing DefCore Board Report, June 2016 | 16:02 |
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| markvoelker | A few things to note: | 16:02 |
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| markvoelker | Generally, the Board confirmed it's ok with nonsubstantive updates to approved Guideline docs. They'd like us to note them on future Board meeting agendas, but we likely don't need to discuss/reapprove them with the Board | 16:03 |
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| luzC | o/ | 16:04 |
| markvoelker | On the additionalProperties issue, there was some discussion though not a lot in the way of conclusions | 16:04 |
| markvoelker | The next step for us is to review Chris's proposal and hash out what we think is a good way forward, then bring that to the Board next month | 16:04 |
| markvoelker | For those who need the link: | 16:05 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333067/ Testing waiver for vendors using Nova 2.0 API with additional properties | 16:05 |
| hogepodge | Please regard that as the official proposal, superseding anything on the mailing lists. | 16:06 |
| markvoelker | Any questions on Board stuff? | 16:06 |
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| woodster_ | o/ | 16:06 |
| markvoelker | Otherwise, this is a good segue to our next topic, which is the proposal... | 16:06 |
| jbryce | one thing i would add is there was support for a short term solution that unblocks the process while we work on a longer term solution. allison raised a concern but was ok when she understood that we were not talking about an unlimited timeframe for having an administrative solution | 16:06 |
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| markvoelker | jbryce: thanks, good point | 16:07 |
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| brunssen | o/ | 16:07 |
| markvoelker | #topic Waiver for additional responses on Nova API calls proposal | 16:08 |
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| markvoelker | That link again: | 16:08 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333067/ | 16:08 |
| hogepodge | A few updates on the original proposal and the changes you see there. | 16:08 |
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| markvoelker | Now that we've had a lot of discussion on the ML's and in meetings and with the Board, it's time to really get the wheels turning on this. | 16:09 |
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| markvoelker | I'd like to see DefCore folks prioritize getting this reviewed and weighing in on the patch this week if at all possible | 16:09 |
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| hogepodge | Introducing a way to configure tempest upstream to ignore additional properties breaks encapsulation between tempest and tempest-lib | 16:09 |
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| hogepodge | mtreinish wrote up the script in that patch to parse subunit output and generate a list of tests that failed because of additional properties, and report some data about that. | 16:10 |
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| hogepodge | I need to update the patch to be clearer about how to use the script, but the process would be that a vendor would run the tests, then send over subunit data that could be processed with the script | 16:11 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: I'll add this in the review, but we probably need to think really carefully about how we message that to vendors | 16:11 |
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| markvoelker | E.g. I don't want somebody to just run Refstack following directions elsewhere, fail, and give up without even knowing about the program | 16:11 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: so that script identifies the tests .. what is the action after that? | 16:12 |
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| markvoelker | (assuming we implement it) | 16:12 |
| hogepodge | catherineD: I review the test results and determine if they pass with the additional properties, not too different from what happens now. It's more workload for me, and it's likely for reference I'll need to send the results to refstack since this is much more manual process | 16:13 |
| markvoelker | Anything else we need to discuss on this now? Questions folks have? | 16:13 |
| jbryce | there’s been some good feedback on the review from mtreinish and ken’ichi but i think they are on board with overall goal behind it. and to me, effectively what it does is return the state of testing against the existing defcore specs to where they were before the tempest changes | 16:13 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: so you will generate the JSON file to upload to RefStack? | 16:14 |
| hogepodge | catherineD: yes, which is what I've done for some clouds anyway (that have historically send me data as subunit files) | 16:14 |
| hogepodge | s/send/sent | 16:14 |
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| eglute | o/ | 16:15 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: we can look at the possibility for refstack-client to execute the script to identify those tests ... let's discuss more later | 16:15 |
| Rockyg | ++ | 16:16 |
| luzC | ++ | 16:16 |
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| markvoelker | catherineD: thanks for that | 16:16 |
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| hogepodge | catherineD: sure, that would be useful. I'm looking to unblock things for vendors, so I don't mind the extra labor while these things are possibly implemented | 16:16 |
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| hogepodge | catherineD: thanks | 16:17 |
| markvoelker | Ok, our next topic is one more bit that's related to the additionalProperties issue, so let's cover that too | 16:17 |
| markvoelker | #topic Update next to explicitly allow additional responses on Nova 2.0 API | 16:17 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335247/ Update next to explicitly allow additional responses on Nova 2.0 API | 16:17 |
| markvoelker | Title pretty much says it all here. =) | 16:18 |
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| markvoelker | So again, we need to make some traction soon on the waiver program proposals, and this is related to that. | 16:18 |
| markvoelker | Let's see if we can't get this one reviewed this week. | 16:18 |
| hogepodge | It officially updates the guideline to recognize that Nova 2.0 API has extensions and possibly additional properties, and encodes it in the designated sections. | 16:19 |
| markvoelker | #action everybody Please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333067/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335247/ ASAP (at least this week) | 16:19 |
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| markvoelker | Anything else to discuss on this one now? | 16:19 |
| catherineD | do we need to update 2016.01 with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335247/ ? | 16:19 |
| catherineD | since that is what being tested today | 16:20 |
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| catherineD | knowing that 2016.01 is an approved Guideline | 16:20 |
| markvoelker | catherineD: I had the same thought and figured I'd add that comment to the patch once we make some headway with the waiver program. | 16:20 |
| catherineD | markvoelker: ++ | 16:20 |
| hogepodge | catherineD: no, those are approved guidelines, and I think it would be inappropriate to change it. The waiver program is meant to hit 2016.01 and 2015.07. But if there's consensus and board approval I could see the benefit of it | 16:20 |
| markvoelker | But IMHO that can be a separate patch...getting it into next.json won't require Board approval, so I'm fine with doing them separately | 16:21 |
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| Rockyg | I think the underlying issue is what we do about older versions that are still supported by vendors. The code hasn't changed, but the vendors can't control customers not upgrading. | 16:21 |
| catherineD | I am just thinking that we allow those test to pass .. we need to allow those code too | 16:21 |
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| markvoelker | hogepodge: I guess it might be a fair question to ask if we should ammend the older Guidelines with a note about the waiver program as one means of communicating it. | 16:23 |
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| markvoelker | Particularly if we're going to ask the BoD to approve the waiver program anyway. | 16:23 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: sure, that makes sense | 16:23 |
| markvoelker | But we can discuss that in the patch. | 16:23 |
| markvoelker | Ok, anything further here or shall we move on? | 16:23 |
| hogepodge | catherineD: yeah | 16:23 |
| hogepodge | we can move on | 16:23 |
| markvoelker | #topic DefCore Mid-cycle | 16:23 |
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| markvoelker | VanL: around? | 16:24 |
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| * markvoelker hears crickets | 16:24 | |
| gema | I would need to know sooner rather than later the actual location | 16:24 |
| gema | since the trip is longish | 16:24 |
| eglute | the location is known! | 16:24 |
| gema | eglute: it's not confirmed! | 16:24 |
| hogepodge | #chair eglute | 16:25 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker | 16:25 |
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| gema | eglute: VanL told us to hold until he could confirm :D | 16:25 |
| eglute | I thought it was confirmed that it will be at Rackspace in San Antonio? | 16:25 |
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| markvoelker | Ok, VanL had an action item to confirm the facilities for the midcycle but seemed confident he could find somewhere to put us up. | 16:25 |
| markvoelker | I'll drop him a line this afternoon and see if we can get confirmation | 16:25 |
| gema | markvoelker: and if he could recommend some hotel also that'd be rad | 16:25 |
| gema | or eglute :D | 16:26 |
| markvoelker | Once I do, I'll send out a note the ML confirming so folks can make travel plans. I'll also post a first draft of the agenda. | 16:26 |
| gema | markvoelker: +1 | 16:26 |
| markvoelker | gema: Sure, I can probably help a bit with that too | 16:26 |
| gema | sounds good, thanks | 16:26 |
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| catherineD | have we also decided on the duration? 2 or 3 days? | 16:26 |
| eglute | VanL says it is confirmed to be at the Castle via text message | 16:27 |
| eglute | For those flying, airport is SAT | 16:27 |
| markvoelker | eglute: cool, thanks | 16:27 |
| eglute | he has a room reserved for 30, for 3 days | 16:27 |
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| gema | eglute: thanks! | 16:27 |
| markvoelker | cathrineD: from a look at the topics on the agenda I'm planning for 3 days | 16:28 |
| markvoelker | Tues/Wed/Thur | 16:28 |
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| eglute | the only request is that everyone take care of their own lunch | 16:28 |
| gema | eglute: is there a canteen at the castle? | 16:28 |
| Rockyg | Something I'd like to consider is getting foundation legal involved with what is needed for data security compliance on refstack.openstack.org. What are our contractual obligations, and how does that translate into policies. | 16:29 |
| eglute | there are food trucks and or vendors selling food | 16:29 |
| gema | sounds great | 16:29 |
| markvoelker | Rockyg: did you get that on the etherpad? I don't recall it being there when I started drafting the agenda, but if there's time I can see about working it in. | 16:30 |
| Rockyg | Didn't get it on the etherpad. Might just be to discuss what we think we might need from legal | 16:31 |
| markvoelker | ok | 16:31 |
| markvoelker | Anything else midcycle-related to discuss today? | 16:31 |
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| catherineD | Rockyg: Let's add that to the agenda for mid-cycle | 16:32 |
| markvoelker | #topic Status of Network Admin Test Refactoring | 16:32 |
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| eglute | Location: 1 Fanatical Pl, San Antonio, TX 78218 | 16:32 |
| Rockyg | ok. maybe an hour just to kick off how we want to move forward on this. | 16:32 |
| Rockyg | Cool name for the address and building. Hope they live up to the names | 16:33 |
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| markvoelker | A quick refresher: for the next Guideline we wanted to include a bunch of networking capabilities, but it turns out many of those tests use admin creds | 16:33 |
| markvoelker | (mostly unnecessarily...the capabilities themselves are typically exposed to end users) | 16:33 |
| markvoelker | So we've been working to see if we can eliminate unnecessary use of admin creds | 16:33 |
| markvoelker | We also found a few that actually do really require admin rights that should be removed | 16:34 |
| markvoelker | ONe set of those are the extened attributes tests: | 16:34 |
| Rockyg | Do we have a list of the tests that need refactorring? | 16:34 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300608/ Flag network port tests that require admin credentials in 2016.01 | 16:35 |
| Rockyg | Or we could add new tests that don't use admin creds? | 16:35 |
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| hogepodge | I meant to do work on the refactoring, but was sidetracked. I'd like to return to the work and make the network test list as robust as possible | 16:35 |
| hogepodge | but we're running out of time, so the list helps | 16:35 |
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| markvoelker | Rockyg: In most cases they're tests that use a base class that requires admin privs. So, no need for new tests, we just need to base them on a non-admin subclass. | 16:36 |
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| markvoelker | I just did that for a bunch of the router tests: | 16:36 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335558/ Remove unnecessary admin credential usage | 16:36 |
| * markvoelker glances at zuul and sees passing results from CI so fra | 16:37 | |
| markvoelker | So hogepodge and I still have a way to go, but looks like progress. I'm going to work some more on this Thursday/Friday. | 16:37 |
| Rockyg | We need to publicize which tests need work. There are resources available and we can coordinate with QA to ensure they get reviewed. | 16:38 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: and anyone else who wants to work on this, can we create a work list so we don't duplicate effort? | 16:38 |
| catherineD | markvoelker: are you target to add these tests to 2016.08? | 16:38 |
| hogepodge | catherineD: that's the goal in refactoring them | 16:39 |
| markvoelker | Sure. Please file bugs. =) | 16:39 |
| markvoelker | There's a complete list of tests affected in one of the patches we have outstanding, but I neglected to put that in the etherpad for today since it was covered in earlier meetings...I'll add it after we're done | 16:39 |
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| markvoelker | On a semi-related note, during the last round of scoring we also noted that we'd like to start including GET / for services moving to microservices, but a few projects have no tests for that yet | 16:41 |
| markvoelker | I submitted one for Neutron, which has now landed. I'll do glance next, but the networking refactor has higher priority | 16:41 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: can you update next to propose that capability? | 16:42 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: I wasn't planning to this time around since we didn't propose it in our "firm" draft period. | 16:42 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: ok | 16:42 |
| markvoelker | However I'll definitely add it for 2017 | 16:43 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: not even as advisory? Does it make sense to formally wait a year? Especially since the capability has existed for a while | 16:43 |
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| catherineD | I thought tests need to exist for 2 releases for DefCore candicates | 16:44 |
| hogepodge | catherineD: The capability needs to exist for 2 releases if I understand correctly. Tests can come and go. | 16:44 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: we can discuss adding it, but we're a couple months away from the "solid draft published at summit | 16:44 |
| Rockyg | I don't think the tests need to exist. Just the capability | 16:45 |
| markvoelker | period now...which may mean less window for folks to raise objections/offer feedback | 16:45 |
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| Rockyg | And the capability needs to have been adopted. | 16:45 |
| markvoelker | Rockyg: we also can't add capabilities that have no tests. Which is why this one wasn't in the draft. | 16:45 |
| markvoelker | No tests existed for that capability at all until last week. =) | 16:46 |
| * markvoelker glances at the clock | 16:46 | |
| markvoelker | Ok, anything further here? We have a few more things to cover from the backlog today and 13 minutes in which to do it | 16:47 |
| markvoelker | #topic Active guideline updates to 1.5 schema | 16:47 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335251/ Active guideline updates to 1.5 schema | 16:48 |
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| hogepodge | This is a formality, mostly. Just updates the schema entry to gate against the active guidelines (we're not gating yet) | 16:48 |
| hogepodge | One question, should we refer to the .rst schema file (which points to the .json) or the .json schema file? | 16:48 |
| markvoelker | So now that we've affirmed guidance from the Board about nonsubstantive changes to the approved Guidelines, we have a patch to move 215.07 and 2016.01 to schema 1.5 | 16:48 |
| markvoelker | which allows us to have gate jobs checking them | 16:49 |
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| markvoelker | hogepodge: the JSON is the canonical source of truth, the RST is just for human readability | 16:49 |
| hogepodge | (I think we can still gate validate even if we don't bump the version, but it's weird using a 1.5 schema to check a 1.4) | 16:49 |
| markvoelker | ++ | 16:50 |
| catherineD | markvoelker: +1 schema file should be JSON | 16:50 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: yeah, I was thinking that the rst is kinder to the reader, but if we want to be as formal as possible point to the json | 16:50 |
| hogepodge | I'll make the change to the patch | 16:51 |
| markvoelker | thanks | 16:51 |
| markvoelker | These updates are fairly trivial, so I think they'll be easy to review. If folks have a few minutes later today, please give them a look please. | 16:51 |
| markvoelker | Moving on... | 16:52 |
| markvoelker | #topic OS Network Extension Flags | 16:52 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329220/ OS Network Extension Flags | 16:52 |
| hogepodge | dwalleck proposed this a few weeks ago | 16:52 |
| markvoelker | Did we ever get a corresponding tempest bug filed? | 16:53 |
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| hogepodge | I was hoping to get an update from them on this | 16:53 |
| hogepodge | Table for later since he doesn't seem to be around? I can follow up with him. | 16:54 |
| hogepodge | #action hogepodge to follow up with dwalleck on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329220/ | 16:54 |
| markvoelker | Works for me. I was +1 on the patch awaiting a bug report being filed to go +2. | 16:54 |
| markvoelker | #topic Test Spec Proposal | 16:54 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317531/ Test spec proposal | 16:54 |
| gema | need to do an update this week | 16:55 |
| gema | otherwise comments still welcome | 16:55 |
| gema | (may make my update better) | 16:55 |
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| markvoelker | gema: thanks | 16:55 |
| gema | yw | 16:55 |
| markvoelker | As a reminder, we'll be talking about this at the midcycle and I'd really like to see if we can finalize it, so it would be good to read this over now to prepare for discussion | 16:56 |
| markvoelker | (if you haven't already) | 16:56 |
| markvoelker | Ok, we're down to a couple minutes left.... | 16:57 |
| gema | markvoelker: absolutely | 16:57 |
| gema | let's finish it :D | 16:57 |
| markvoelker | A quick reminder: the CFP for Barcelona is open now for another week or two. Get those talks in if you haven't yet. =) | 16:57 |
| markvoelker | Another: please review the gerrit backlog and see what you can knock out this week | 16:58 |
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| markvoelker | Any final comments before we close up? | 16:58 |
| hogepodge | Just about the backlog. Please review. | 16:58 |
| markvoelker | Ok folks, see you next week! Back to #openstack-defcore | 16:59 |
| markvoelker | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| ediardo | o/ | 20:01 |
| robcresswell | Hey folks | 20:01 |
| ediardo | Hello! | 20:01 |
| robcresswell | Here's the agenda for today: | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HorizonDrivers#Agenda_for_2016-06-29_2000_UTC | 20:02 |
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| robcresswell | I wanted to run through priorities and see where we're at | 20:02 |
| jlopezgu | o/ | 20:03 |
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| matt-borland | o/ | 20:03 |
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| robcresswell | Richard isn't around, but I believe we're about ready to go on releasing xstatic. david-lyle also did some work on helping us not break everyone else when we do update. | 20:03 |
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| robcresswell | I'm still using https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-libs to track package updates | 20:04 |
| robcresswell | And there are several in gerrit for testing: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:^openstack/xstatic.* | 20:04 |
| lcastell | o/ | 20:04 |
| robcresswell | matt-borland: Where's the angular registry/images work at? | 20:04 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 20:05 |
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| matt-borland | registry is basically stable for what I think we need in Newton, 2 patches I know of at this point | 20:05 |
| matt-borland | images work: I want to make an enablement patch similar to what Richard did for swift last time | 20:06 |
| matt-borland | also, I'm adding in server-side faceted search...that patch is up for review | 20:06 |
| tsufiev | enablement? | 20:06 |
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| matt-borland | em, a switch so people can enable it in place of the previous incarnation of the panle | 20:06 |
| matt-borland | *panel | 20:06 |
| tsufiev | oh | 20:06 |
| tsufiev | got it | 20:06 |
| david-lyle | by default? | 20:07 |
| matt-borland | exactly | 20:07 |
| matt-borland | so it's a simple switch | 20:07 |
| matt-borland | I'd like people to be serious about reviewing the differences between the Angular and Django work in Images. | 20:08 |
| matt-borland | The other status update is Instances...we have patches in GitHub that basically prepare that for switching to Angular as well. | 20:08 |
| robcresswell | That'd be good to review switching at the midcycle, we'll see where we are though. | 20:08 |
| TravT | even for a simple table based panel, the angular images panel is much nicer to use. | 20:08 |
| matt-borland | exactly, it's a starting point. :) | 20:08 |
| TravT | i think mid-cycle will be great to review. | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | Cool, thanks matt-borland | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | david-lyle: Anything need mentioning on the filtering improvements? I've been a bit slow on the uptake with those, but reviewed a couple today | 20:10 |
| david-lyle | many patches in progress | 20:11 |
| david-lyle | no real road blocks that I'm aware of | 20:11 |
| david-lyle | lcastell, ediardo sound right? | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | Go team intel | 20:11 |
| ediardo | we've been working on several views | 20:11 |
| jlopezgu | haahha | 20:12 |
| ediardo | ~9 views out of ~26 | 20:12 |
| ediardo | I think we are making good progress there | 20:12 |
| lcastell | yup, just struggling with swift ui filtering and magic search :P | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | Really appreciate the work on that stuff. Long overdue, and very valuable. | 20:12 |
| lcastell | need to define the way to go there. find some middle ground | 20:13 |
| ediardo | I''ve been using the novaclient for a while, looks like we don't have many filtering choices in flavors, keypairs,hosts aggregates, etc | 20:13 |
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| david-lyle | I think those aren't as much of a pain point, so we should be ok | 20:13 |
| robcresswell | Don't worry about things the API doesn't provide. If the filter isn't there, there's not much we can do. | 20:14 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: How we doing in integration tests and file upload? | 20:14 |
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| tsufiev | robcresswell, integration tests are stable for now, but we haven't time yet to investigate running them in parallel | 20:15 |
| tsufiev | also, I managed to run them on new Marionette FF API, but Webdriver for Marionette is too immature yet | 20:15 |
| tsufiev | so I think we'd better continue using FF46 | 20:16 |
| tsufiev | perhaps the bug in FF47 that caused Selenium to fail will be fixed in FF47.01 | 20:16 |
| tsufiev | I read some announcements, but have to try it myself once it gets to trusty repos | 20:16 |
| clarkb | tsufiev: firefox ships precompiled binaries for all the platforms too, makes it really easy to swap in a specific version for testing. (Not sure if that helps but you shouldn' tneed to wait for ubuntu) | 20:17 |
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| tsufiev | file upload is good, I'm trying to lure some OpenStack Security folks into reviews so they would share their opinion on passing Keystone token into JS | 20:18 |
| tsufiev | clarkb, AFAIK the problem with FF is that once, say FF47 is released, one cannot install FF46 in ubuntu | 20:18 |
| tsufiev | it just disappears from the repo | 20:18 |
| tsufiev | or perhaps I'm doing it wrong? | 20:18 |
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| clarkb | tsufiev: ubuntu does clean out old pacakges yes | 20:19 |
| clarkb | just mentioning that you can go to firefox directly for early testing | 20:19 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell, if I understand correctly, security concerns about CORS and Keystone tokens is a kind of blocker for these upload patches | 20:20 |
| tsufiev | clarkb, thanks for the info :) | 20:20 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: Understood. Can you keep us updated when we get some security opinions? | 20:21 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell, I can cc you in the private letter I sent to some security folks | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | That'd be great, just trying to keep an eye on various efforts. | 20:22 |
| robcresswell | hurgleburgler: How's things going on the theming side of things? | 20:22 |
| tsufiev | oh, and I have some good news about 'quotas sanity' things in Horizon | 20:22 |
| ediardo | :) | 20:22 |
| tsufiev | sorry to interrupt, hurgleburgler | 20:22 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: One moment, I'll come back to ya :) | 20:22 |
| tsufiev | k | 20:22 |
| hurgleburgler | Going well | 20:23 |
| hurgleburgler | Making progress, but no one really reviewing anymore | 20:23 |
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| tsufiev | seems all reviewers are tied implementing their own patches :/ | 20:23 |
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| robcresswell | Actually, we should discuss that a little. We really need to encourage more review work, especially from non-cores too. | 20:25 |
| robcresswell | Please don't think that just because you cannot +2, that your review is not meaningful. | 20:25 |
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| matt-borland | +1.9999 | 20:26 |
| ankur-gupta-f1 | robcresswell: any recommendations on what to start reviewing? or just review all we can? | 20:26 |
| robcresswell | It's very important for us to get continuous commentary and review work across the board, so please make sure to set time aside, or discuss with your managers to put time aside for review work too. | 20:26 |
| matt-borland | I think prioritization is a problem robcresswell | 20:26 |
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| robcresswell | There's a few places to look | 20:26 |
| robcresswell | https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/newton-2 | 20:27 |
| robcresswell | Is a list of prioritised and targetted bugs, any In Progress have a patch up. | 20:27 |
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| robcresswell | You can also use the gerrit dash that david-lyle created which gives a nice overview of patches that have been ignored, un reviewed etc | 20:28 |
| itxaka | uh, link? | 20:28 |
| ediardo | where's that? | 20:28 |
| ankur-gupta-f1 | https://github.com/openstack/gerrit-dash-creator | 20:29 |
| david-lyle | I have a better one not checked in will provide paste | 20:29 |
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| robcresswell | You can actually add those links in the Gerrit preferences too (which I only realised today) to have extra sections next to Changes/Draft/Starred at the top. | 20:30 |
| robcresswell | The other item I've intermittently used is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Horizon/WeeklyBugReport | 20:31 |
| robcresswell | Though it tends to get time consuming to maintain on top of bug triage work :) | 20:31 |
| robcresswell | So its fallen by the wayside. | 20:31 |
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| david-lyle | http://paste.openstack.org/show/524127/ | 20:32 |
| robcresswell | Happy to update it if that would help with review work | 20:32 |
| robcresswell | thanks david-lyle | 20:32 |
| lcastell | cool | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | you can customize with the link ankur-gupta-f1 provided to target what's important to you | 20:33 |
| ediardo | hey david-lyle, that looks like those urls hackers want dummy users to paste into the addres bar | 20:33 |
| ediardo | jk | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | I can already see the money rolling in | 20:33 |
| ediardo | yeaah | 20:34 |
| robcresswell | If someone logs into your fb next week, you know who it was... | 20:34 |
| lcastell | =D | 20:34 |
| itxaka | waaaa, that dashboard is pretty cool :o | 20:34 |
| robcresswell | I had a couple of weeks holiday, but I'm back on actively reviewing and triaging, so the N-2/N-3 milestones should get fairly populated | 20:35 |
| robcresswell | Help is welcome :D | 20:35 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: Quotas? | 20:35 |
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| tsufiev | so, the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335524/ adds to novaclient an ability to return quota usages along with limits - similar to what we have already for cinder | 20:37 |
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| tsufiev | eric has already a patch to fetch cinder quota usages | 20:37 |
| tsufiev | this is quite important because now to fetch quota usages horizon makes a bunch of calls to retrieve every possible list of nova/cinder/neutron entities | 20:38 |
| tsufiev | which is quite time-consuming | 20:38 |
| tsufiev | but of course there is still neutron, which doesn't have an API like this yet | 20:38 |
| robcresswell | One step at a time :) | 20:39 |
| tsufiev | that's unfortunate, because sequentially asking for networks, subnets and routers can be VEEERY SLOOOW | 20:39 |
| robcresswell | haha | 20:39 |
| robcresswell | Yeah, absolutely. | 20:39 |
| robcresswell | Thanks for the update | 20:40 |
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| tsufiev | but the last issue can be worked around by parallelizing different calls to not send them sequentially | 20:40 |
| robcresswell | In Python? | 20:40 |
| tsufiev | that's what I've been doing the last week and gained 4x performance | 20:40 |
| tsufiev | yes | 20:40 |
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| tsufiev | 20 seconds rendering time -> 5 seconds | 20:40 |
| robcresswell | Eric might try and hug you | 20:40 |
| tsufiev | I'd like to first propose nova and cinder sane usages, then parallelizing some stuff in case of neutron | 20:41 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: Is there a patch for this? | 20:41 |
| robcresswell | Sure | 20:41 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell, yes, but I want to rebase it onto usages unification work | 20:41 |
| tsufiev | bp is still to be written | 20:42 |
| tsufiev | I think that's all news about quotas | 20:42 |
| robcresswell | Okay, so we're not looking at a Newton timescale for this then | 20:42 |
| robcresswell | Thanks tsufiev | 20:42 |
| tsufiev | yep, that would be too optimistic | 20:42 |
| robcresswell | Any other updates? Otherwise I'd like to move onto docs | 20:42 |
| robcresswell | #topic UI Guidelines | 20:43 |
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| robcresswell | So, we have someone who has thrown themselves under a bus/ kindly volunteered to help improve on http://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/ui-text-guidelines.html | 20:43 |
| robcresswell | asettle: o/ | 20:43 |
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| robcresswell | It'd be great to work on this content and improve it, but I've asked that Horizon is a bit more involved than it was in the original draft. | 20:44 |
| hurgleburgler | thanks asettle | 20:44 |
| ediardo | o/ | 20:44 |
| robcresswell | Looking for volunteers to help answer questions, offer reviews etc. | 20:44 |
| hurgleburgler | Its good to point out that these are just guidelines … meant to help give some direction when desired, but not meant to be prescriptive or conforming | 20:45 |
| ankur-gupta-f1 | robcresswell: I can help in whatever capacity I can. | 20:45 |
| ediardo | robcresswell: me too. | 20:45 |
| ankur-gupta-f1 | I have some free time | 20:45 |
| robcresswell | Yeah, just a reference point. A lot of the content we have in Horizon isn't often built around anything other than "what was already done" which may not be the best, from a writing or design point of view. | 20:46 |
| robcresswell | Awesome! Thanks | 20:46 |
| * robcresswell closes trap | 20:46 | |
| ediardo | it was a trap??????????????????????? | 20:46 |
| ediardo | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F4qzPbcFiA | 20:47 |
| hurgleburgler | I think the purpose to to try and determine whatever patterns currently exist, not necessary to create new ones? | 20:47 |
| robcresswell | Well, both to an extent; if we're doing things 3 ways, lets pick one and document why | 20:47 |
| robcresswell | Things like, how to phrase help text, what type of error to display, are all useful. For example, only recently a patch altered many of the alerts to be Info instead of Danger; but this wasn't really documented in anything other than a patch | 20:49 |
| robcresswell | I think documenting that kind of data as a guideline has value, and saves load on developers answering questions for new folk or plugins, IMO. | 20:49 |
| hurgleburgler | Right, but there is a push now to start documenting stuff like page layout and more UI type of elements | 20:50 |
| robcresswell | Yeah, we can decide as we go if we agree or not | 20:51 |
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| robcresswell | The point is to avoid having UX make that decision for us, and make sure we're involved in the process. | 20:51 |
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| hurgleburgler | k | 20:51 |
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| robcresswell | Any other questions? | 20:52 |
| robcresswell | Sweet, lets move on | 20:53 |
| robcresswell | #topic 800UTC meeting | 20:53 |
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| robcresswell | So, the 1200UTC meeting was moved to 800UTC, which resulted in a 0% increase in the number of attendees | 20:54 |
| robcresswell | Its generally only myself, Richard and tsufiev that are around at that time. | 20:54 |
| itxaka | nice | 20:54 |
| itxaka | :) | 20:54 |
| rdopiera | at least it's not negative | 20:54 |
| robcresswell | I'd like to consider dropping the early meeting slot until there is demand for it. I'm happy to be awake and run it (9am for me anyway) | 20:55 |
| robcresswell | but at the moment it seems like a waste of time to demand horizon core attention for a meeting with so little value. | 20:55 |
| robcresswell | Any thoughts/ | 20:55 |
| robcresswell | *? | 20:55 |
| hurgleburgler | Does that means we'd just have a meeting every other week and toggle with Drivers? | 20:56 |
| robcresswell | We'd just have one meeting each week at 2000UTC | 20:56 |
| david-lyle | I think we could collapse the two back into one | 20:56 |
| robcresswell | david-lyle: Agreed | 20:56 |
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| robcresswell | There isn't as much blueprint review demand either. | 20:56 |
| hurgleburgler | robcresswell: sounds ok to me … but I guess its really up to you, jones and tsufiev | 20:56 |
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| tsufiev | I don't mind to continue attending this meeting | 20:57 |
| robcresswell | Yeah, naturally I'll put it on the mailer and discuss it more openly | 20:57 |
| robcresswell | Just wanted to see if anyone had any input here | 20:57 |
| tsufiev | but... it's funny that meeting that was moved after richard's mail is cancelled while he's on a vacation :) | 20:58 |
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| hurgleburgler | maybe we should bring it back up next then? | 20:59 |
| TravT | i think ML is the right place for it | 20:59 |
| robcresswell | As I said, I'll go on the ML, this isn't a formal cancellation of the meeting. | 20:59 |
| tsufiev | k | 20:59 |
| TravT | robcresswell bringing it up now and following it up in the ML is the right process | 20:59 |
| robcresswell | Well, we're at time | 21:00 |
| matt-borland | thanks! | 21:00 |
| robcresswell | Thanks everyone | 21:00 |
| robcresswell | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 29 21:00:17 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2016/horizondrivers.2016-06-29-20.00.html | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2016/horizondrivers.2016-06-29-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2016/horizondrivers.2016-06-29-20.00.log.html | 21:00 |
| itxaka | what about the django 1.10 patches? did I miss that? | 21:00 |
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| ediardo | thanks! | 21:00 |
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