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| PaulMurray | #startmeeting Nova Live Migration | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 5 14:00:57 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is PaulMurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_live_migration' | 14:01 |
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| PaulMurray | anyone here for live migration ? | 14:01 |
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| claudiub | o/ | 14:01 |
| jlanoux | o/ | 14:01 |
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| markmc | hey | 14:02 |
| paul-carlton1 | o/ | 14:02 |
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| PaulMurray | I'll give it a minute | 14:02 |
| andrearosa | happy new year | 14:02 |
| mdbooth | o/ | 14:02 |
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| * alex_xu lurks | 14:02 | |
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| claudiub | happy new year :) | 14:02 |
| PaulMurray | Thanks to andrearosa for reminding me of the time :) | 14:03 |
| PaulMurray | Agenda is here as usual: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaLiveMigration | 14:03 |
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| PaulMurray | I would expect some people to be away so it could be short | 14:04 |
| PaulMurray | but I thought it was worth trying to recap where we are | 14:04 |
| PaulMurray | #topic Overall priority status | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Overall priority status (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:04 | |
| PaulMurray | We are coming up to mitaka-2 milestone | 14:05 |
| PaulMurray | and not many changes have been merged although there are quite a lot of patches up for review | 14:05 |
| PaulMurray | So I'll go through the list of items | 14:06 |
| PaulMurray | Anyone know where we are with CI? | 14:06 |
| pkoniszewski | o/ | 14:06 |
| PaulMurray | Hi pkoniszewski | 14:06 |
| PaulMurray | is that a hand up for CI or just telling us your here? | 14:07 |
| pkoniszewski | just saying hello, don't know about CI | 14:07 |
| PaulMurray | ok | 14:07 |
| PaulMurray | last I knew the job on the experimental queue seems to be working ok | 14:08 |
| PaulMurray | remember to try it out | 14:08 |
| PaulMurray | Next is API docs | 14:08 |
| PaulMurray | I added some description to the concepts guide | 14:08 |
| PaulMurray | As we go along it would be good to make sure the API is correct and up to date for any changes we make | 14:09 |
| PaulMurray | and feel free to correct anything there | 14:09 |
| alex_xu | PaulMurray: yea, thanks for the doc :) | 14:09 |
| PaulMurray | How about "Instances with mix of local and shared disks" | 14:09 |
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| PaulMurray | We have three patches waiting for review | 14:10 |
| pkoniszewski | there is one -1 i need to solve | 14:10 |
| pkoniszewski | however, mikal gave +2 on series | 14:10 |
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| pkoniszewski | so I believe it is good to go | 14:11 |
| PaulMurray | pkoniszewski, it will be good to get this one done | 14:11 |
| PaulMurray | so thanks | 14:11 |
| pkoniszewski | i will resubmit it today | 14:12 |
| PaulMurray | next is "Force live migration" | 14:12 |
| pkoniszewski | i saw your review PaulMurray, thanks for that, I will resubmit this one today also | 14:12 |
| PaulMurray | Thanks - iirc it was all very small comments | 14:13 |
| PaulMurray | ping me when your done and I will go over it again | 14:14 |
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| pkoniszewski | sure, thanks! | 14:14 |
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| PaulMurray | next is "Resize/Cold Migrate" - paul-carlton1 ? | 14:14 |
| PaulMurray | or mdbooth | 14:14 |
| claudiub | umm, is there a link for the force live migration? | 14:15 |
| claudiub | i am curious | 14:15 |
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| claudiub | I suppose that behaviour will also have to be implemented at the driver level, right? | 14:15 |
| pkoniszewski | is in the priority tracking etherpad | 14:15 |
| claudiub | ok, gotcha, ty. :) | 14:16 |
| PaulMurray | claudiub, if you go to the bottom of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-live-migration you can find links to all the specs | 14:16 |
| pkoniszewski | might be missing on wiki - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245921/ | 14:16 |
| * mdbooth has been working on libvirt storage pools. I'm only just back at work today. I posted some WIP patches before I left for the hols in December. It's early work, but I know where I'm going with it now. | 14:16 | |
| PaulMurray | claudiub, force live migration is also known as "pause vm during live migration" | 14:16 |
| paul-carlton1 | mdbooth, can you add me a reviewer or ping me the urls pls | 14:17 |
| mdbooth | paul-carlton1: Sure thing | 14:17 |
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| claudiub | PaulMurray: I see, cool. Will take a look. | 14:17 |
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| PaulMurray | mdbooth, paul-carlton1 did we find a way around ploop with the parallels guys | 14:18 |
| * PaulMurray says "we" meaning "you" | 14:18 | |
| mdbooth | PaulMurray: No, but it's not that important imho | 14:18 |
| paul-carlton1 | PaulMurray, sorry I've made no real progress on this, working on internal issue right now, expect to be able to focus on upstream next week | 14:18 |
| mdbooth | That's medium term work | 14:18 |
| mdbooth | paul-carlton1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259148/ | 14:19 |
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| paul-carlton1 | parallels are going to fix libvirt so it supports ploop for storage pools | 14:19 |
| * mdbooth boggles at +1s from 3 CIs on that patch :) | 14:19 | |
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| paul-carlton1 | until they do users of ploop can't move to release of nova that requires storage pools | 14:20 |
| mdbooth | paul-carlton1: Nah, it just means that some storage types won't use libvirt storage pools | 14:21 |
| mdbooth | We can treat different storage types differently in this regard quite easily | 14:21 |
| paul-carlton1 | That is another way of doing it, I was hoping we could still make storage pools the default but if we can support different models easily then no issue | 14:22 |
| mdbooth | It will be the default for storage types which support it | 14:22 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, do you expect to make progress in the coming weeks? | 14:23 |
| PaulMurray | (I mean something significant before mid cycle) | 14:24 |
| mdbooth | PaulMurray: Yes. I've also been distracted by a high priority internal issue, but apart from that I'm working on this. | 14:24 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, incidentally I will have a couple of HP guys working on libvirt/qemu coming along - so let us know if any help is needed there | 14:25 |
| PaulMurray | next item | 14:25 |
| PaulMurray | is "split network" - anyone working on that one here? | 14:25 |
| mdbooth | PaulMurray: I'm not attending midcycle, btw. However, if there's going to be a day which contains discussion relevant to this I'll make a daytrip down. | 14:26 |
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| PaulMurray | oh, my mistake - if you are interested I might propose doing that - there will be at least 4-5 libvirt/qemu specialists at the mid cycle | 14:27 |
| mdbooth | Definitely interested if it's useful. | 14:27 |
| PaulMurray | It looks like no-one has update for split network | 14:28 |
| PaulMurray | There is this patch for split network: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245005/ | 14:29 |
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| PaulMurray | it only has a current review from pkoniszewski - so more attention would be good | 14:29 |
| PaulMurray | next is "Cancel migration" - paul-carlton1 / andrearosa ? | 14:29 |
| andrearosa | I am working on a non-priority spec which is high-prioirty as we are close to the non-priority feature freeze :( I hope I can start working on cancel live-migration soon | 14:29 |
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| andrearosa | maybe by the end of this week, but I am not sure yet. | 14:30 |
| PaulMurray | andrearosa, paul-carlton1 is it dependant on the pause migration? | 14:30 |
| andrearosa | we have to define a common new GET method and pkoniszewski already put something | 14:31 |
| andrearosa | we agree that I'll follow what is there once I start working on it. | 14:31 |
| andrearosa | pkoniszewski: am I right> | 14:31 |
| andrearosa | ? | 14:31 |
| pkoniszewski | andrearosa: yes | 14:32 |
| pkoniszewski | andrearosa: there is one GET already under review, part of migration details exposed through API | 14:32 |
| andrearosa | pkoniszewski: ack | 14:33 |
| pkoniszewski | link -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258771/ | 14:33 |
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| PaulMurray | pkoniszewski, andrearosa we should group the migration details, force migration and cancel together I guess - they make one thread of work | 14:34 |
| PaulMurray | I think? | 14:34 |
| PaulMurray | does that make sense? | 14:34 |
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| andrearosa | PaulMurray: what do you mean by group? | 14:34 |
| PaulMurray | I mean they are in the same area - looking at and acting on migrations | 14:35 |
| andrearosa | yes they are | 14:35 |
| andrearosa | we just need to stay in sync | 14:36 |
| PaulMurray | Is there any items in approaved specs that I have not covered so far? | 14:36 |
| pkoniszewski | there is also alex_xu effort to remove block migration flag from the API | 14:37 |
| PaulMurray | pkoniszewski, ah yes, we will come back to that in a minute | 14:37 |
| PaulMurray | just to skip over the next couple of things | 14:38 |
| PaulMurray | #topic bugs | 14:38 |
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| PaulMurray | I am not sure if mikal has made any progress organising a bug day | 14:38 |
| PaulMurray | I am sure we will get back to that soon | 14:39 |
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| PaulMurray | I'll try to catch up with him about it | 14:39 |
| PaulMurray | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:39 |
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| ankit | We have addded few possible solutions to fix this issue on LP bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1470420/comments/6 | 14:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1470420 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Set migration status to 'error' instead of 'failed' during live-migration" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Rajesh Tailor (rajesh-tailor) | 14:40 |
| ankit | It would be really helpful if we can get some consensus on finalizing the alternet approach to fix this issue. | 14:40 |
| ankit | or if there any consenses on any other approach not mentioned on LP bug note | 14:41 |
| PaulMurray | ankit, have you been able to get in touch with ndipanov about it? | 14:41 |
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| PaulMurray | I am also behind on the ML - only just got back to work | 14:42 |
| PaulMurray | was there any more discussion there since the last meeting ? | 14:43 |
| ankit | PaulMurray: Nikola has added his comments on the patch itself but we are still not finalized on which approach we should go with | 14:43 |
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| PaulMurray | so I see a -1 from ndipanov and alaski seems to agree we should not change the user facing messages (status I guess) | 14:45 |
| ankit | PaulMurray: Yes | 14:45 |
| PaulMurray | I don't see any comments from cores supporting the status change | 14:46 |
| PaulMurray | but i also don't see any specific suggestion of what to do except some other cleanup | 14:46 |
| ankit | PaulMuarry: Yeah, thats the point we want to confirm from cores | 14:47 |
| PaulMurray | Those people are not in this meeting | 14:47 |
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| ankit | before implementing the next approach | 14:47 |
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| PaulMurray | we should try and get hold of them - I think they will be around this afternoon so lets see if we can get hold of them in #openstack-nova after this meeting | 14:48 |
| ankit | PaulMurray: So I think we should add this as stuck reviews in Nova meeting | 14:48 |
| PaulMurray | we can do that too - but lets see if we can have a chat with them first | 14:48 |
| ankit | Please suggest | 14:48 |
| PaulMurray | as soon as we are done here | 14:49 |
| PaulMurray | #topic open discussion | 14:49 |
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| PaulMurray | The mid cycle is coming up in a few weeks time | 14:49 |
| PaulMurray | we should start thinking about what we need to get out of it for this sub team | 14:49 |
| PaulMurray | we will be expected to contribute to the agenda as one of the priorities | 14:50 |
| PaulMurray | it would also be good to show progress with the "nearly done" reviews | 14:50 |
| PaulMurray | so please spend some time on reviews | 14:50 |
| PaulMurray | Next is Deprecating the live_migration_flag and block_migration_flag config options | 14:51 |
| markmc | hey | 14:51 |
| PaulMurray | I haven't read the thread - can you give a summary | 14:51 |
| markmc | just wanted to mention some patches I posted last night | 14:51 |
| markmc | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/083275.html | 14:51 |
| markmc | the idea is that live_migration_flag is too fine grained a config option | 14:51 |
| markmc | allowing operators to do things like remove the PEER2PEER flag just makes no sense | 14:52 |
| markmc | it's almost like having a config option with a chunk of arbitrary python code | 14:52 |
| markmc | instead, we should have specific config options for behavior changes that have use cases | 14:52 |
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| markmc | and allow those config options influence the migration flags | 14:52 |
| markmc | that's about it | 14:53 |
| markmc | just raising here for feedback on the thread | 14:53 |
| PaulMurray | markmc, thanks for bringing it up | 14:53 |
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| PaulMurray | Anyone want to raise anything else? | 14:54 |
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| PaulMurray | ok - lets end - thank you all for coming | 14:55 |
| andrearosa | thanks | 14:55 |
| pkoniszewski | thanks | 14:56 |
| PaulMurray | ankit, lets go on #openstack-nova and see if we can find ndipanov and alaski | 14:56 |
| PaulMurray | #endmeeting | 14:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 5 14:56:22 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:56 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-01-05-14.00.html | 14:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-01-05-14.00.txt | 14:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-01-05-14.00.log.html | 14:56 |
| ankit | PaulMurray: yes | 14:57 |
| ankit | Thank | 14:57 |
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| devkulkarni | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 5 17:00:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 17:00 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Roll Call | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 17:00 | |
| devkulkarni | Devdatta Kulkarni | 17:00 |
| james_li | james li | 17:00 |
| ashishjain | Ashish jain | 17:00 |
| devkulkarni | Morning James | 17:00 |
| devkulkarni | Hi Ashish | 17:00 |
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| ashishjain | Hi dev | 17:01 |
| james_li | HI devkulkarni, happy new year | 17:01 |
| muralia | murali allada | 17:01 |
| muralia | hi all | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | Great to see you | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | hey muralia | 17:01 |
| muralia | happy new year to everyone | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | great to see you | 17:01 |
| adrian_otto | o/ | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | happy new year | 17:01 |
| adrian_otto | Happy NEw Year | 17:01 |
| ashishjain | Helli muralia | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | hi adrian_otto | 17:01 |
| ashishjain | Happy new year to all | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | great to see you | 17:01 |
| muralia | hey ashishjain. | 17:01 |
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| devkulkarni | this is great.. we have several folks today :) | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | here is the agenda for today: | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2016-01-05_1700_UTC | 17:02 |
| devkulkarni | will wait for a minute to see if anyone else joins us.. will proceed to next topic after that | 17:02 |
| devkulkarni | alright.. | 17:03 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Announcements | 17:03 |
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| devkulkarni | Wipro workshop notes: http://www.slideshare.net/devkulkarni/contributing-to-openstack | 17:04 |
| vijendar | Hi all | 17:04 |
| ashishjain | Devkulkarni thanks a lot for the session | 17:04 |
| devkulkarni | As I had mentioned in our meeting in December, ashishjain had invited me to do a workshop at Wipro's office in Pune India | 17:04 |
| devkulkarni | Above are the notes of that session | 17:04 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: it was my pleasure.. hopefully, folks got something out of the workshop | 17:05 |
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| ashishjain | It was a really good one and was well appreciated by lot of attendees | 17:05 |
| devkulkarni | please let your teams know that they can join irc channel and irc meetings to participate in design discussions and implementation | 17:05 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: that is great to know | 17:06 |
| ashishjain | We look forward to many more ☺ | 17:06 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: :) .. openstack-dev mailing list is also a good place to participate | 17:06 |
| dimtruck | o/ | 17:06 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: I am looking forward to working closely with you and your teams | 17:06 |
| devkulkarni | hi dimtruck, vijendar | 17:07 |
| devkulkarni | thanks for joining us | 17:07 |
| devkulkarni | alright.. that was the announcement that I had | 17:07 |
| ashishjain | Definitely will ask teams to work closely with our team | 17:07 |
| devkulkarni | do any of the team members have any announcements? | 17:07 |
| ashishjain | Same here devkulkarni | 17:07 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Review Action Items | 17:08 |
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| devkulkarni | There have been two action items pending on me from December | 17:08 |
| devkulkarni | (pending) devkulkarni to figure out details about diverse-affiliation tag associated with solum. | 17:08 |
| devkulkarni | actually, adrian_otto might know about this one.. | 17:09 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: do you know where to find various tags that are given to a project by the TC? | 17:10 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain had asked a question sometime back about the diverse-affiliation tag for solum | 17:10 |
| dimtruck | devkulkarni: https://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/team_diverse-affiliation.html#requirements | 17:10 |
| dimtruck | this? | 17:10 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: cool | 17:10 |
| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: yes, it's in the projects.yaml file. I can find a link to it for you. | 17:10 |
| ashishjain | http://governance.openstack.org/reference/projects/ | 17:11 |
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| ashishjain | This link gives the details about all the projects | 17:11 |
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| devkulkarni | thanks adrian_otto, ashishjain | 17:11 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks ashishjain | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | so basically we currently don't have this tag | 17:13 |
| ashishjain | Adrian_otto devkulkarni , my pleasure | 17:13 |
| adrian_otto | the raw data comes from here: | 17:13 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/projects.yaml OpenStack Projects | 17:13 |
| adrian_otto | so you can submit reviews against that in Gerrit to propose changes | 17:13 |
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| devkulkarni | https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/projects.yaml#L3421 | 17:14 |
| devkulkarni | is an example of project which has this tag | 17:14 |
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| devkulkarni | ok, makes sense | 17:14 |
| devkulkarni | thanks adrian_otto | 17:14 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: does this discussion answer your question? | 17:15 |
| ashishjain | Devkulkarni yes | 17:15 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: cool.. so I will mark that pending action item as done :) | 17:15 |
| ashishjain | We just need to provide info i guess | 17:16 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: rigt | 17:16 |
| ashishjain | But wouldn't it be validated by openstack eam | 17:16 |
| ashishjain | *team | 17:16 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: for validation I think the info will be pulled in automatically based on the number of reviews, commits, etc. | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | once we propose a change | 17:17 |
| ashishjain | We can mark it closed than | 17:17 |
| ashishjain | Thanks devkulkarni | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: sounds good | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | the other action item which is pending is: | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | how to retire this site: http://solum.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ | 17:18 |
| devkulkarni | for this I need to follow up with the openstack-infra folks | 17:18 |
| devkulkarni | will continue it forward as I haven't yet gotten around to doing that | 17:19 |
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| devkulkarni | #action devkulkarni to figure out how to retire solum readthedocs site | 17:19 |
| devkulkarni | were there any other action items that any of you remember which we haven't covered today, or in last couple of meetings? | 17:19 |
| devkulkarni | alright.. lets move to patch reviews and discussion | 17:20 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 17:20 |
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| devkulkarni | 1) Release model change as suggested by ttx | 17:20 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263294/ | 17:21 |
| devkulkarni | let me give some background on this | 17:21 |
| devkulkarni | each openstack project needs to follow a model of when the project can be released.. currently there are three release models defined by the release team | 17:21 |
| devkulkarni | a) release:independent, b) release:cycle-with-intermediary, c) release:end-of-cycle | 17:22 |
| devkulkarni | OpenStack release cycle is of 6 months | 17:22 |
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| devkulkarni | Solum has been following the release:independent model till now | 17:22 |
| ashishjain | Yeah | 17:23 |
| devkulkarni | Recently OpenStack release team reached out to me saying that they recommend that we move to release:cycle-with-intermediary release model | 17:23 |
| devkulkarni | the rationale for doing this was by doing so, it will be possible for Solum to be released with other OpenStack projects | 17:24 |
| devkulkarni | at the end of the cycle | 17:24 |
| ashishjain | That seems to be a good option | 17:24 |
| devkulkarni | the cycle-with-intermediate release model has advantages of both the independent model and the end-of-cycle model | 17:24 |
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| devkulkarni | ashishjain: yeah | 17:24 |
| devkulkarni | so above patch basically makes that change | 17:24 |
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| devkulkarni | this patch needs to be merged by January 20th as advised by the release team | 17:25 |
| devkulkarni | you all can give your votes on the patch as well | 17:25 |
| devkulkarni | any thoughts/questions in this regard? | 17:26 |
| muralia | sure. patch looks good. is that all that needs to be changed? | 17:27 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: yes, that is all is required | 17:27 |
| muralia | cool | 17:27 |
| devkulkarni | OpenStack release team will hopefully merge it before their deadline | 17:27 |
| devkulkarni | from our side we just had to submit the patch | 17:27 |
| devkulkarni | alright.. the next item is a big one | 17:28 |
| devkulkarni | 2) Devstack gate failing due to plugin architecture changes | 17:28 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249432/ (representative patch) | 17:28 |
| devkulkarni | #link http://logs.openstack.org/03/261803/1/check/gate-solum-devstack-dsvm/ccbdd0d/console.html.gz#_2015-12-27_07_09_06_679 (failure 1) | 17:29 |
| muralia | the UI has changed so much, how do i give a +1? | 17:29 |
| devkulkarni | #link http://logs.openstack.org/03/261803/1/check/gate-solum-devstack-dsvm/ccbdd0d/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-12-27_06_49_44_668 (failure 2) | 17:29 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: hit the "Reply" button | 17:29 |
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| muralia | ah :) | 17:29 |
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| devkulkarni | btw, I am not liking the new UI | 17:29 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: the timing of the UI change was a bit unfortunate.. as my notes for Wipro workshop contains screenshots of the old UI | 17:30 |
| devkulkarni | anyways. | 17:30 |
| vijendar | yeah.. new UI is confusing | 17:30 |
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| muralia | me too. its so cluttered | 17:30 |
| devkulkarni | +1 vijendar muralia | 17:30 |
| ashishjain | I was also confused with new ui | 17:30 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck seems to like the new UI though | 17:30 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: +1 | 17:31 |
| dimtruck | hahahaha, i'm used to it | 17:31 |
| ashishjain | Somehow pressed the reply button nd that did it | 17:31 |
| dimtruck | it's been in gerrit-dev for months now | 17:31 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: you should give us a quick run down on where things are in the ne e UI | 17:31 |
| devkulkarni | new UI | 17:31 |
| devkulkarni | compared to the old UI | 17:31 |
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| dimtruck | what are you missing? | 17:32 |
| devkulkarni | I know vijendar was missing a combined file view.. right? | 17:32 |
| dimtruck | (not saying that it's not convoluted) | 17:32 |
| dimtruck | oh | 17:32 |
| dimtruck | so in the patch view | 17:32 |
| devkulkarni | I personally just miss the simplicity of the old UI | 17:32 |
| dimtruck | there's a green/red button on the top left | 17:33 |
| dimtruck | next to the arrows | 17:33 |
| vijendar | devkulkarni dimtruck I was able to see all the files on the top of the review | 17:33 |
| devkulkarni | yes, see that | 17:33 |
| dimtruck | i think that's what you're looking for? | 17:33 |
| dimtruck | cool! | 17:33 |
| dimtruck | sorry for the tangent :) | 17:33 |
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| devkulkarni | dimtruck: :) .. this is not a tangent | 17:34 |
| devkulkarni | lets discuss more about UI in the Open discussion | 17:34 |
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| devkulkarni | for now, let me go back to the more pressing issue of devstack gate being broken | 17:34 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck, james_li: especially need your attention on this topic | 17:34 |
| devkulkarni | let me provide some background to set the context | 17:35 |
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| devkulkarni | sometime back devstack team had changed the way different projects are integrated into devstack | 17:35 |
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| devkulkarni | they had introduced the 'plugin' model | 17:35 |
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| devkulkarni | starting the Tokyo summit they had announced that all the projects need to move over to start using this plugin model | 17:36 |
| devkulkarni | otherwise the devstack gate will start failing starting mid december | 17:36 |
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| devkulkarni | for solum, venkatmaheshkotha and dimtruck rallied together to produce the plugin patch | 17:37 |
| devkulkarni | it was merged in late november | 17:37 |
| devkulkarni | so, technically we have done what has been required from us | 17:37 |
| devkulkarni | however, when mid december rolled in, our devstack gate started failing | 17:38 |
| devkulkarni | as was said by the tempest/devstack team | 17:38 |
| devkulkarni | currently all our patches are getting a -1 from the devstack gate | 17:38 |
| james_li | lets fix it! | 17:38 |
| devkulkarni | so either a) our devstack plugin patch did not work as was expected, or b) something else changed which is causing the gate to fail | 17:39 |
| devkulkarni | awesome james_li | 17:39 |
| devkulkarni | the failure that we are seeing is | 17:39 |
| devkulkarni | none of the solum services seem to be starting up | 17:39 |
| devkulkarni | #link http://logs.openstack.org/03/261803/1/check/gate-solum-devstack-dsvm/ccbdd0d/console.html.gz#_2015-12-27_07_09_06_679 | 17:39 |
| devkulkarni | 'solum-api' is not running is the message printed in | 17:40 |
| dimtruck | devkulkarni: were you able to reproduce this locally? | 17:40 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: no, not yet. | 17:40 |
| dimtruck | ah ok | 17:40 |
| devkulkarni | yesterday I tried to spin up devstack gate locally as you had mentioned to do | 17:40 |
| devkulkarni | but my VM got stuck in some earlier step | 17:40 |
| devkulkarni | I am going to try to spin up devstack locally again | 17:41 |
| dimtruck | yeah, i can try it too | 17:41 |
| devkulkarni | btw, dimtruck has shared an etherpad link of how to create local devstack instance | 17:41 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/devstack_gate | 17:41 |
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| dimtruck | i moved it here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum_devstack_gate...since devstack_gate might be too specific | 17:41 |
| dimtruck | err, not specific enough | 17:42 |
| dimtruck | i don't know...felt weird haha | 17:42 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: I see | 17:42 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum_devstack_gate | 17:42 |
| dimtruck | let's copy it over to solum_devstack_gate etherpad url and take out magnum specific bits | 17:42 |
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| devkulkarni | dimtruck: sounds good.. if you can do that, that will be awesome.. in the mean while I will provide details about the error | 17:43 |
| devkulkarni | so to provide details about the plugin architecture: | 17:43 |
| devkulkarni | the plugin architecture needs the following: | 17:43 |
| devkulkarni | 1) top level 'devstack' directory in the project's source | 17:43 |
| devkulkarni | 2) plugin.sh file inside this directory | 17:44 |
| devkulkarni | 3) a settings file, which contains env variables etc. | 17:44 |
| devkulkarni | we have this here: https://github.com/openstack/solum/tree/master/devstack | 17:44 |
| devkulkarni | In settings file, we are enabling solum services | 17:44 |
| devkulkarni | https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/devstack/settings#L78 | 17:45 |
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| devkulkarni | and in plugin.sh, we check this and then start the services | 17:45 |
| devkulkarni | https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/devstack/plugin.sh#L388 | 17:45 |
| devkulkarni | this is the documentation of devstack's plugin interface: | 17:46 |
| devkulkarni | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/plugins.html | 17:46 |
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| devkulkarni | if you spend some time looking through the plugin documentation and the corresponding code that we have, you will notice that we have what is required to make a plugin | 17:47 |
| james_li | not sure if this is valid: I don't see solum under [service_available] http://logs.openstack.org/25/263625/2/check/gate-solum-devstack-dsvm/1ce83f8/logs/devstack-gate-post_test_hook.txt.gz#_2016-01-05_09_54_20_033 | 17:47 |
| dimtruck | hmmm | 17:48 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: I don't know whether it used to be there earlier.. also that particular output is tempest's conf file.. I don't think solum services will show under that.. or would they? | 17:49 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: wait | 17:49 |
| devkulkarni | may be you are right | 17:49 |
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| dimtruck | yeah... | 17:49 |
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| devkulkarni | you mean, something like 'solum = true' ? | 17:49 |
| dimtruck | right | 17:50 |
| devkulkarni | or 'solum-api = true', 'solum-worker = true' | 17:50 |
| devkulkarni | hmm.. good observation | 17:50 |
| james_li | not sure that will work, but worth a try? | 17:50 |
| dimtruck | so i'm looking at magnum's setup | 17:50 |
| dimtruck | http://logs.openstack.org/05/263505/1/check/gate-functional-dsvm-magnum-api/1484014/console.html#_2016-01-05_16_38_38_558 | 17:50 |
| dimtruck | and magnum isn't there | 17:50 |
| dimtruck | a bunch of other core services are...but no magnum | 17:51 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: yes, definitely that is worth looking at | 17:51 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: there is a magnum section below service_available section | 17:51 |
| dimtruck | (the magnum section below was added explicitly and not via a plugin...it's specific to tempest) | 17:51 |
| devkulkarni | oh I see | 17:52 |
| dimtruck | err, specific to magnum tempest tests | 17:52 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: comparing to magnum's plugin code, is there anything that we are doing different in solum's plugin? | 17:52 |
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| devkulkarni | btw, the message 'solum-api is not running' is output from https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/functionaltests/run_tests.sh#L34 | 17:54 |
| dimtruck | https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/devstack/settings#L77-L81 | 17:54 |
| dimtruck | https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/devstack/settings#L34-L36 | 17:54 |
| dimtruck | that should be it | 17:54 |
| dimtruck | i wonder if this doesn't run in gate: https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/devstack/plugin.sh#L395-L408 | 17:56 |
| devkulkarni | hmm.. seem similar | 17:56 |
| devkulkarni | but there is this: https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/devstack/plugin.sh#L15 | 17:56 |
| devkulkarni | which must be running for magnum, right? | 17:56 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: I am wondering if this is not running https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/devstack/plugin.sh#L417 | 17:57 |
| devkulkarni | actually, comparing plugin.sh of the two, they look very similar to me | 17:58 |
| dimtruck | that could be it devkulkarni | 17:58 |
| dimtruck | where do we actually start the api | 17:58 |
| devkulkarni | even the 'extra' section is there in magnum | 17:58 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: don't know.. https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/devstack/plugin.sh#L40 | 17:58 |
| devkulkarni | ^^ is similar to what we have in solum | 17:58 |
| dimtruck | right | 17:59 |
| dimtruck | anyway, we should add a bunch of stdouts and debug through this | 17:59 |
| dimtruck | i bet it's a silly condition or something | 17:59 |
| devkulkarni | agree.. | 17:59 |
| devkulkarni | lets continue discussion in solum | 17:59 |
| devkulkarni | we are almost at the end of the meeting time | 17:59 |
| devkulkarni | #Open Discussion | 17:59 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Open discussion | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 18:00 | |
| devkulkarni | Heads up about Austin summit | 18:00 |
| devkulkarni | deadline to submit talks is Feb 1 | 18:00 |
| devkulkarni | we can chat more about the summit in coming weeks | 18:00 |
| devkulkarni | and in the irc channel | 18:00 |
| devkulkarni | its time.. | 18:00 |
| devkulkarni | thanks everyone for joining today. hope to see you all next week. have a great year ahead | 18:01 |
| devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 5 18:01:07 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-01-05-17.00.html | 18:01 |
| dimtruck | thanks! | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-01-05-17.00.txt | 18:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-01-05-17.00.log.html | 18:01 |
| ashishjain | Thanks | 18:01 |
| ashishjain | All | 18:01 |
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| briancurtin | #startmeeting python-openstacksdk | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 5 19:00:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: python-openstacksdk)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'python_openstacksdk' | 19:00 |
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| briancurtin | etoews: i made it | 19:00 |
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| etoews | hi! | 19:01 |
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| terrylhowe | o/ | 19:02 |
| briancurtin | i’m not sure what exactly to cover here other than maybe another walkthrough of https://launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+milestone/1.0 | 19:02 |
| etoews | sgtm | 19:03 |
| briancurtin | only five things left that aren’t in-progress | 19:03 |
| briancurtin | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1466192 - Update contributor guide | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1466192 - Update contributor guide (Meeting topic: python-openstacksdk)" | 19:04 | |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1466192 in OpenStack SDK "Update contributor guide" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Brian Curtin (brian.curtin) | 19:04 |
| briancurtin | i guess that is sort of in progress in that i started sketching some things out, but don’t have a review up for it yet. shouldn’t be too hard, just need to formalize a bunch of the things we’ve all been doing anyway | 19:04 |
| briancurtin | overall i want to be able to enable teams to come in and figure out what to do just based on that doc. a lot of stuff is fairly easy to figure out just by looking at something like compute, but we need to formalize a bunch of guidelines, such as how to name props and such | 19:06 |
| etoews | definitely worthwhile. hopefully it'll save some review time too. | 19:07 |
| briancurtin | seems like something that’ll take an afternoon to write, some time to massage, and hopefully a few quick passes through review to be done | 19:08 |
| rtheis | o/ | 19:08 |
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| briancurtin | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1513679 - download_object needs to have the same API as get_object | 19:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1513679 - download_object needs to have the same API as get_object (Meeting topic: python-openstacksdk)" | 19:09 | |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1513679 in OpenStack SDK "download_object needs to have the same API as get_object" [Critical,Confirmed] | 19:09 |
| etoews | is https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1488631 a prereq for that one? | 19:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1488631 in OpenStack SDK "Converge on upload/download names instead of create/save/etc" [Critical,In progress] | 19:10 |
| briancurtin | i know i looked at this so it’s either not tagged or isn’t pushed yet, but is a quick one. additionally, there’s a review out there from last week where someone proposed taking a file stream instead of just a path, but the review doesn’t pass tests and is a little too involved. i’ll probably take a look at integrating | 19:10 |
| briancurtin | etoews: yeah it’s a part of it | 19:10 |
| etoews | what's left to be done on 1488631? | 19:11 |
| briancurtin | looking | 19:12 |
| briancurtin | etoews: probably nothing, but could use a quick look through the code to make sure nothing else has those names | 19:12 |
| briancurtin | i think it was just image and object_store that had the problem | 19:13 |
| briancurtin | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1526516 - Catch all ksa exceptions and map them to SDK exceptions | 19:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1526516 - Catch all ksa exceptions and map them to SDK exceptions (Meeting topic: python-openstacksdk)" | 19:14 | |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1526516 in OpenStack SDK "Catch all ksa exceptions and map them to SDK exceptions" [Critical,Confirmed] | 19:14 |
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| briancurtin | i just noticed this again today while running functional tests that i keep getting 409 conflict. not only do i not even know what that means, it’s just a pretty generic ksa exception | 19:15 |
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| briancurtin | i don’t know if we can get more info out of it, but it’d probably be confusing if someone saw a 409 conflict keystoneauth1 exception | 19:16 |
| etoews | everyone will naturally assume it's a keystone problem whenever they see something like that | 19:16 |
| etoews | makes for a lot of confusing bug reports | 19:17 |
| briancurtin | i haven’t looked into this at all, but i’m not entirely sure how/where to solve this since we’re not doing anything of our own in making requests and handling responses, since it’s offloaded entirely to KSA | 19:18 |
| briancurtin | maybe a global exception hook or something, although that seems dirty | 19:19 |
| terrylhowe | I would think most changes would be in resource.py | 19:19 |
| rtheis | How does occ or osc handle this? Maybe sdk could do something similar if it makes sense | 19:20 |
| briancurtin | no clue | 19:20 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe: actually yeah, good point | 19:20 |
| etoews | where do all of the ksa exceptions live? | 19:20 |
| * etoews goes to look | 19:20 | |
| terrylhowe | osc just prints the exceptions | 19:20 |
| terrylhowe | occ just looks for a list of valid plugins I think | 19:21 |
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| etoews | https://github.com/openstack/keystoneauth/tree/master/keystoneauth1/exceptions | 19:21 |
| terrylhowe | well, if we at least catch the base class, that would be a good start | 19:22 |
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| terrylhowe | thanks for finding that etoews | 19:22 |
| briancurtin | etoews: what terrylhowe said with handling in resource.py is maybe right, but it looks like they’re structured well enough that an excepthook could convert them somewhat easily | 19:22 |
| etoews | well it doesn't really make sense to map exceptions like these https://github.com/openstack/keystoneauth/blob/master/keystoneauth1/exceptions/http.py | 19:23 |
| etoews | they're all just based on the http status code | 19:24 |
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| etoews | and a lot of the other exceptions in that package are actually specific to keystone | 19:24 |
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| briancurtin | perhaps there’s no clear catch-all thing to do here, but instead just make sure we take care of things appropriately in Resource methods | 19:25 |
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| briancurtin | we already do a small amount of that anyway, e.g., handling 404s and checking the ignore_missing flag | 19:26 |
| briancurtin | in the case i mentioned above, i need to dig in and figure out what that 409 Conflict ordeal is and maybe come up with a decent case to solve it | 19:26 |
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| terrylhowe | If a helper class/method was developed, it would be fairly easy to test always map over the message attribute and sometimes http_status | 19:28 |
| briancurtin | i think we’d probably want to coerce a more detailed response-code specific ksa exception down to HttpException - using the code and the status message from the KSA exc to create it | 19:29 |
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| etoews | and if we continue to have our own HttpException https://github.com/openstack/python-openstacksdk/blob/master/openstack/exceptions.py#L37 we should really map all of https://github.com/openstack/keystoneauth/blob/master/keystoneauth1/exceptions/http.py to it | 19:29 |
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| terrylhowe | true | 19:33 |
| briancurtin | etoews: do you mean a 1-1, or in that we handle KSA’s base HttpError and create our HttpException from it? | 19:34 |
| etoews | base | 19:34 |
| etoews | there really isn't a lot of value in giving each status code it's own exception like https://github.com/openstack/keystoneauth/blob/master/keystoneauth1/exceptions/http.py does | 19:35 |
| terrylhowe | Not each one, but 404 at least | 19:35 |
| etoews | ya | 19:35 |
| briancurtin | there are some common/special/meaningful cases like 404 that we can use separately, but yep, agreed | 19:36 |
| briancurtin | i think we’re on the same page here, so whenever someone has time to write it up, go for it | 19:36 |
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| briancurtin | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1494494 - Expose the full URL to an object in object_store | 19:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1494494 - Expose the full URL to an object in object_store (Meeting topic: python-openstacksdk)" | 19:38 | |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1494494 in OpenStack SDK "Expose the full URL to an object in object_store" [Medium,Confirmed] | 19:38 |
| briancurtin | i haven’t looked at this since KSA, but i also noticed something in object_store docs that might make this easier, so a combination of the two might be a lot easier than what i was looking at before | 19:38 |
| briancurtin | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1524466 - Corner "Report a Bug" links to wrong repo | 19:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1524466 - Corner "Report a Bug" links to wrong repo (Meeting topic: python-openstacksdk)" | 19:39 | |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1524466 in OpenStack SDK "Corner "Report a Bug" links to wrong repo" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Anne Gentle (annegentle) | 19:39 |
| briancurtin | anne isn’t in here, but etoews have you seen/heard anything about that? | 19:39 |
| etoews | nada | 19:40 |
| etoews | i can ping her | 19:40 |
| etoews | i'll find out if the "release of the openstackdocstheme" part of that has been done | 19:41 |
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| briancurtin | cool | 19:42 |
| briancurtin | anything else to cover? i’m mostly catching up on the last week or so of reviews and reviving a compute metadata change that i think is now good to go | 19:43 |
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| rtheis | when I go to http://developer.openstack.org/sdks/python/openstacksdk/, "Report a Bug" appears to link to https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/ for me... am I looking at the wrong doc? | 19:44 |
| etoews | so it does :) | 19:45 |
| briancurtin | oh, hmm. would be nice to change the summary text, but that’s pretty much good | 19:45 |
| etoews | the "Welcome to the OpenStack SDK! in openstacksdk" seems unnecessary | 19:45 |
| briancurtin | ah, that’s just the title of the page and the name of the project, so it’s maybe a decent starting point actually | 19:46 |
| briancurtin | yeah when you dig in to other pages it names them as the page’s title | 19:46 |
| etoews | that makes sense if you're logging bugs against docs i suppose | 19:47 |
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| etoews | i just marked it as fix released | 19:47 |
| briancurtin | i guess if you’re using it as a quick way to find our launchpad it doesn’t make sense, but it’s probably better to fill in that title than nothing. if someone wants to file a code bug they’re probably ok with just deleting that stuff | 19:48 |
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| briancurtin | anything else? | 19:51 |
| terrylhowe | nothing here | 19:51 |
| etoews | i noticed some places where "save" is still used. fixing up now. then we can close out that one issue. | 19:52 |
| rtheis | nothing here | 19:52 |
| etoews | nothing else | 19:52 |
| briancurtin | cool, thanks all | 19:52 |
| briancurtin | #endmeeting | 19:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:52 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 5 19:52:35 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2016/python_openstacksdk.2016-01-05-19.00.html | 19:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2016/python_openstacksdk.2016-01-05-19.00.txt | 19:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2016/python_openstacksdk.2016-01-05-19.00.log.html | 19:52 |
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