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| david-lyle | #startmeeting Horizon | 12:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 30 12:01:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 12:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 12:01 |
| david-lyle | who's around ? | 12:01 |
| r1chardj0n3s | o/ | 12:01 |
| fnordahl | o/ | 12:01 |
| masco_ | 0/ | 12:01 |
| mrunge | o/ | 12:01 |
| kzaitsev_mb | \0 | 12:01 |
| robcresswell | o/ | 12:02 |
| david-lyle | Let's get rolling | 12:03 |
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| david-lyle | So we have an RC-1 for Liberty | 12:03 |
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| david-lyle | we will need an RC-2 to roll in the translations | 12:03 |
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| david-lyle | bug wise I'm not seeing anything that would require an RC-2 otherwise. There is a django_openstack_auth issue that will require a release there once fixed | 12:05 |
| r1chardj0n3s | when's RC-2 due? | 12:05 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: good question | 12:05 |
| david-lyle | week of Oct 5-9 looks like | 12:05 |
| fnordahl | I have a few bugs and corrensponding fixes that I would like to see in for subnetpools to work. | 12:06 |
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| tsufiev | o/ | 12:06 |
| fnordahl | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222904/ | 12:06 |
| doug-fish | fnordahl: can you share links? | 12:06 |
| david-lyle | as a reminder of process, | 12:06 |
| fnordahl | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227167/ | 12:06 |
| doug-fish | :-) | 12:06 |
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| robcresswell | Don't know if it helps but I made #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bugs?field.tag=liberty-rc-potential to categorise any bugs | 12:07 |
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| david-lyle | liberty is now on stable/liberty, so all changes need to merge to master first then be backported to stable/liberty | 12:07 |
| david-lyle | but at this point we really only want to merge high priority issues | 12:08 |
| robcresswell | Ah okay | 12:08 |
| david-lyle | to stable/liberty | 12:08 |
| r1chardj0n3s | david-lyle: it looks like we have a consensus on that fix for the MySQL vs. DOA deathmatch? | 12:08 |
| david-lyle | robcresswell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bugs?field.tag=liberty-rc2-potential | 12:08 |
| robcresswell | ah poop | 12:09 |
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| robcresswell | will redo those | 12:09 |
| r1chardj0n3s | but that fix will require a global-requirements update... | 12:09 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: I think setting the field length to 64 by default | 12:09 |
| david-lyle | but that won't fix the migration issue | 12:09 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: we can release and as long as upper constraints is set appropriately, people will pick it up | 12:10 |
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| david-lyle | and we can update g-r in Mitaka | 12:10 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ok | 12:10 |
| r1chardj0n3s | (I'm not familiar with the migration issue, but this isn't the time to clue in my cluelessness ;) | 12:10 |
| david-lyle | exception for straight to stable/liberty patches are the translations | 12:11 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: it's in the bug comments https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1499856 | 12:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1499856 in django-openstack-auth "latest doa breaks with new db layout" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Eric Peterson (ericpeterson-l) | 12:11 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | david-lyle: ok, thanks | 12:12 |
| david-lyle | no plan for that part yet | 12:12 |
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| david-lyle | other general reminders | 12:12 |
| david-lyle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-mitaka-summit | 12:13 |
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| david-lyle | for topic ideas | 12:13 |
| david-lyle | #link http://odsreg.openstack.org/ | 12:13 |
| david-lyle | for cross-project (>2) session topics | 12:14 |
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| david-lyle | fnordahl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1498926 | 12:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1498926 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Unable to create subnet from IPv6 subnetpool" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Frode Nordahl (fnordahl) | 12:15 |
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| david-lyle | unable to create subnets without? | 12:15 |
| david-lyle | err subnetpool | 12:16 |
| * david-lyle still processing | 12:16 | |
| fnordahl | david-lyle: Without this patch it will be imposible to create subnet from a IPv6 subnetpool | 12:16 |
| david-lyle | which was the whole point of your bp, no? | 12:16 |
| fnordahl | david-lyle: Entirely my fault for introducing crappy JS in the intiial patch so this is attepmpt to do it right. | 12:17 |
| fnordahl | david-lyle: largely yes. Neutron will come with support for IPv6 Prefix Delegation | 12:17 |
| fnordahl | Horizon needs this to work with that. | 12:17 |
| fnordahl | (and addreass scopes and other nice network-p0rn) | 12:17 |
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| david-lyle | ok, marked high, if the change makes master, will consider for RC-2 | 12:18 |
| * tsufiev makes a note how he should call neutron :) | 12:18 | |
| fnordahl | david-lyle: great, thx! | 12:18 |
| david-lyle | #topic The Bug Report | 12:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "The Bug Report (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 12:18 | |
| david-lyle | robcresswell: o/ | 12:19 |
| robcresswell | hey | 12:19 |
| * robcresswell finds link | 12:19 | |
| robcresswell | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Horizon/WeeklyBugReport | 12:19 |
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| robcresswell | I wanted to try focusing reviews a little better on key issues | 12:19 |
| robcresswell | We're mega productive at RC time, partly because pressure, but also partly because we have a very set list of items to look at, I feel. | 12:20 |
| robcresswell | This is an attempt to break that down into a weekly event. So we try to ensure resolution of a small number of bugs or bps. | 12:20 |
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| robcresswell | Rather than ignoring critical bugs or long standing coded bps until end of cycle. | 12:21 |
| Anticimex | is the famous stale session timeout related bug among those listed? i can't really tell | 12:21 |
| robcresswell | I'm happy to review and keep producing weekly reports like this, if its deemed valuable. | 12:21 |
| tsufiev | Anticimex, it should have been already fixed | 12:22 |
| robcresswell | Anticimex: I thought the timeout bug was fixed, just the migration issue left, which is at the top of the list. | 12:22 |
| mrunge | tsufiev, it's not. https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1499856 | 12:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1499856 in django-openstack-auth "latest doa breaks with new db layout" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Eric Peterson (ericpeterson-l) | 12:22 |
| doug-fish | robcresswell: how does this help us more than just going to https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/liberty-rc1 and looking at priorized bugs? | 12:22 |
| Anticimex | robcresswell: ack, we're testing now. so i guess i'll figure it out | 12:22 |
| Anticimex | robcresswell: ack re: migration | 12:23 |
| david-lyle | well to be fair, the timeout bug is fixed and replaced with a newer shinier bug | 12:23 |
| robcresswell | doug-fish: Bugs are rarely categorised to each milestone until they are merged. | 12:23 |
| tsufiev | mrunge, that's a bit different issue, though from the same family... | 12:23 |
| mrunge | yes, agree. that's a different thing. | 12:23 |
| doug-fish | robcresswell: but they could be - isn't that the same activity as created the report? | 12:23 |
| tsufiev | doug-fish, I think the point here is that meetings are held every week, while there are only one milestone in half a year | 12:24 |
| tsufiev | s/one/three/ | 12:24 |
| robcresswell | doug-fish: Arguably. It's targeting a *lot* of bugs, which may or may not have code, vs. "Here's 5 bugs with patches, please review this week" | 12:24 |
| david-lyle | The main problem from my point of view is that we have gotten way behind on the bug triage and classification in Horizon | 12:25 |
| robcresswell | Yeah | 12:25 |
| david-lyle | ideally we could use lauchpad to track, if things are up to date | 12:25 |
| david-lyle | so there are a few option... | 12:26 |
| mrunge | we == OpenStack community used to have a few issues with launchpad we tried to solve with Storyboard | 12:26 |
| david-lyle | 1) have a report to work around the larger issue and still provide value | 12:26 |
| david-lyle | 2) get our house in order using some bug days | 12:27 |
| robcresswell | It's not like the two are mutually exclusive. I can spend a few minutes each week producing a short report while we clean up LP, and then we can use that if its preferable. | 12:27 |
| david-lyle | 3) get our house in order and have a report/list to prioritize the highest priority issues of the day | 12:27 |
| mrunge | #vote 3 | 12:27 |
| doug-fish | david-lyle: does "get our house in order" mean to get bugs traiged and up to date? | 12:28 |
| robcresswell | The wiki is just a neater option of shouting out the high priorities each meeting, which several other projects do. | 12:28 |
| david-lyle | doug-fish: yes | 12:28 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I'm all for that | 12:28 |
| doug-fish | yes, that sounds sensible | 12:28 |
| r1chardj0n3s | focused bug days can help with that | 12:28 |
| david-lyle | robcresswell: I have no issue with the wiki, I think it has value, but the fact that we have >50 untriaged bugs (guessing at the number) is scary | 12:29 |
| robcresswell | Cool | 12:29 |
| tsufiev | +1 for wiki | 12:29 |
| tsufiev | I'm not sure if bug days work | 12:30 |
| r1chardj0n3s | the wiki is a cool idea too | 12:30 |
| david-lyle | once we have gone through the pain to catch up, as long as people pay attention the maintenance cost will be must less | 12:30 |
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| david-lyle | tsufiev: ? | 12:30 |
| robcresswell | Sure. For now then, I'll update this each week and we can call it out briefly in the weekly meeting. | 12:31 |
| david-lyle | people come try to focus on, discuss and triage bugs, what's not to work? | 12:31 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle, I mean asking people to just fix bugs on, say Wednesday, - this looks dubious to me | 12:31 |
| david-lyle | no fixing needed on the bug day | 12:31 |
| r1chardj0n3s | tsufiev: nothing stopping you also working on bugs on other days | 12:31 |
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| tsufiev | ah, okay, so I got this concept wrong | 12:31 |
| david-lyle | a lot of it is just confirming or asking for more information | 12:32 |
| r1chardj0n3s | tsufiev: but sometimes people need a nudge to think about dealing with or even triaging bugs, and having a day to do so can help | 12:32 |
| tsufiev | then no objections from my side | 12:32 |
| david-lyle | or noting that this bug is two years old, and has been fixed for 18 months | 12:32 |
| robcresswell | lol | 12:32 |
| doug-fish | let's hope for many of those! | 12:32 |
| robcresswell | doug-fish: They're a royal PITA, having to track down ancient commits. | 12:33 |
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| Anticimex | the timeout issue is merged to master, but we ran stable/kilo and i miss it there | 12:33 |
| r1chardj0n3s | needs some experience with the project, is all | 12:33 |
| doug-fish | I was thinking about just asserting that it's fixed and seeing if the original bug owner complained | 12:33 |
| doug-fish | that's much easier | 12:33 |
| doug-fish | :-) | 12:33 |
| r1chardj0n3s | doug-fish: solid plan! | 12:34 |
| david-lyle | do people have a day preference | 12:34 |
| ducttape_ | it seems appropriate to at least try to reproduce, if easy / possible ;) | 12:34 |
| r1chardj0n3s | doug-fish: in all seriousness, I have poked at bugs asking people to confirm it's still an issue after failing to reproduce the problem | 12:34 |
| david-lyle | would be nice to have one before the summit, will help in prioritization | 12:34 |
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| robcresswell | doug-fish: Heh, true, I tend to like linking proof if possible, which starts to up the time investment quite quickly, and perhaps it was only "90% fixed" | 12:34 |
| doug-fish | r1chardj0n3s: agreed. that's completely reasonable | 12:34 |
| doug-fish | robcresswell: IMO you are overacheiving! if it works, just say its fixed | 12:35 |
| david-lyle | ducttape_: yes, that's part of the confirmation testing in my mind | 12:35 |
| robcresswell | doug-fish: Yessir :) | 12:35 |
| david-lyle | doug-fish: at times there are nuances | 12:35 |
| david-lyle | but for the most part yes | 12:35 |
| david-lyle | monday and fridays are out due to date lines | 12:36 |
| r1chardj0n3s | david-lyle: I reckon just pick your least-favourite day next week and declare that the first bug-bash day :) | 12:36 |
| doug-fish | do we have an outline of what is expected to happen during bug traige | 12:36 |
| david-lyle | so tues, wed or thurs? | 12:36 |
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| tsufiev | Tuesday | 12:36 |
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| doug-fish | Wed is best for me | 12:37 |
| robcresswell | Tuesday suits me. | 12:37 |
| david-lyle | doug-fish: I think there is a general wiki page for openstack somewhere | 12:37 |
| doug-fish | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage | 12:37 |
| david-lyle | looky there | 12:37 |
| doug-fish | :-) | 12:37 |
| david-lyle | I was just G'ingTFY | 12:38 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | the bug basj also needs an etherpad for folks to note bugs they're looking at, and what the outcome of their investigation is (and whether someone with more specific knowledge should take a look) | 12:38 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: good point | 12:39 |
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| david-lyle | and use the horizon room for discussion | 12:39 |
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| fnordahl | I would love to join in on bug bashing. wed or thurs is better than tue for me | 12:40 |
| fnordahl | depending on time (and zone) | 12:40 |
| tsufiev | actually, any day would suffice | 12:41 |
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| david-lyle | let's make it Wed then | 12:41 |
| david-lyle | robcresswell: ok with you? | 12:41 |
| mrunge | since Wed is already full of horizon meetings.... | 12:41 |
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| robcresswell | So, Confirming is checking the validity of the bug, and Triaging is checking the content of the bug and confirming it? | 12:42 |
| robcresswell | david-lyle: Yeah, I just have most of my meetings wednesdays. | 12:42 |
| robcresswell | Plus 2 hours of horizon meetings. | 12:42 |
| robcresswell | Days are too short. | 12:42 |
| doug-fish | robcresswell: I think the wiki has a pretty good outline | 12:43 |
| doug-fish | of bug maintenance that should be done | 12:43 |
| doug-fish | no fair skipping to the end! | 12:43 |
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| david-lyle | I do use the term triage more generally, to be fair | 12:43 |
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| david-lyle | I think in the wiki, triage is so far as understanding the fix and documenting it, IIRC | 12:44 |
| david-lyle | I'm looking more for step one, admitting you have a problem :P | 12:44 |
| doug-fish | :-) | 12:44 |
| david-lyle | and then indicating how severe it is | 12:44 |
| robcresswell | So focus on confirming and setting status | 12:45 |
| robcresswell | and setting importance* | 12:45 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle, if someone clearly uinderstands the bug and fix, why he won't fix it :)? | 12:45 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: Code takes time :) | 12:45 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: a couple of reasons | 12:46 |
| david-lyle | code does take time, and we're looking at 300 bugs | 12:46 |
| david-lyle | 2) it's nice to leave low hanging fruit for people new to the community to provide simpler things to work on | 12:47 |
| tsufiev | sounds reasonable. Still for most tricky bugs Triaging sometimes may take up to 50-70% of time spend on coding the fix | 12:47 |
| fnordahl | +1 recruitment is very important. we won't stay as agile and lean as we are now forever. | 12:47 |
| david-lyle | sometimes people don't want to follow a patch through the process either | 12:48 |
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| david-lyle | ducttape_ often post a fix in launchpad but not on gerrit | 12:48 |
| r1chardj0n3s | tsufiev: the doa thing is a good example of knowing exactly what the problem was, but the fix being tricky (or very expensive) | 12:48 |
| david-lyle | for that reason | 12:48 |
| david-lyle | ok, I will send out an email for a Web bug day for Horizon | 12:49 |
| david-lyle | *Wed | 12:49 |
| david-lyle | #action david-lyle email about Horizon bug day on Wed | 12:49 |
| fnordahl | david-lyle: e-mail to the general mailing-list or do you have a private one stashed? | 12:50 |
| r1chardj0n3s | so now I have to choose whether I do the bug day on my Wednesday or wait until Thursday which will be at the end of your bug day :) | 12:50 |
| fnordahl | s/general/dev | 12:50 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: preference? | 12:50 |
| david-lyle | I'll email a time range in UTC | 12:51 |
| r1chardj0n3s | actually, waiting until my Thursday means I do the bug day after I attend the Horizon meeting (which is 6am my time Thursday) | 12:51 |
| r1chardj0n3s | so that could actually be good, help me be more focused | 12:51 |
| r1chardj0n3s | How about you just declare it "Wednesday" and see how that rolls, rather than dictate a time range? | 12:52 |
| david-lyle | I can do that too, just hoping someone else in a TZ close to you might participate too | 12:52 |
| r1chardj0n3s | helll, I'll probably have a Wednesday And Thursday Bug Day, just to one-up everyone ;) | 12:52 |
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| tsufiev | local TZ Wednesday is a chance for a bug day to last longer than 24 hours :) | 12:52 |
| r1chardj0n3s | tsufiev: yep :) | 12:52 |
| david-lyle | ok, will remain vague and shifty | 12:53 |
| fnordahl | hehe | 12:53 |
| r1chardj0n3s | heh | 12:53 |
| david-lyle | #topic Open Discussion | 12:53 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | so who knew that people ran Horizon over an actual database? | 12:53 |
| r1chardj0n3s | that was a surprise for me | 12:53 |
| robcresswell | hahaha | 12:53 |
| doug-fish | \o | 12:53 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I wonder whether we should test for that :) | 12:53 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | \o/ | 12:54 |
| doug-fish | r1chardj0n3s: along those lines - I was surprised that people upgrade Horizon in place and hope to keep sessions alive | 12:54 |
| mrunge | r1chardj0n3s, I do. from time to time | 12:54 |
| mrunge | doug-fish, +1 | 12:54 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I've just had most of a week's vacation, so I'm fulla happy :) | 12:54 |
| r1chardj0n3s | doug-fish: that's just plain odd, yeah | 12:54 |
| robcresswell | I knew about the db part, but dougs point about keeping sessions surprised me too. | 12:54 |
| r1chardj0n3s | indeed, thinking about "migrating" horizon's database just makes me think "why"... | 12:55 |
| david-lyle | that part is new to me too | 12:56 |
| david-lyle | I suppose if you're augmenting the model??? | 12:56 |
| david-lyle | or have monitoring accounts with really long token life spans | 12:56 |
| r1chardj0n3s | the session model? that is the only thing being actually stored in the db, yeah? | 12:56 |
| robcresswell | It might be easier to just ask eric what wizardry he has created | 12:57 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: not entirely sure | 12:57 |
| robcresswell | Since it seems he may be the only person on Earth doing this | 12:57 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yeah | 12:58 |
| doug-fish | Didn't Lin find the same issue? | 12:58 |
| r1chardj0n3s | (on the first part, no idea about the second) | 12:58 |
| david-lyle | he's just closer to master than the rest | 12:58 |
| david-lyle | other's will find it I'm sure | 12:58 |
| robcresswell | Likely just my isolation from deployers speaking. | 12:59 |
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| doug-fish | I recall Eric demo-ed his ability to quickly spin up new Horizons at the mid-cycle | 12:59 |
| doug-fish | I guess if those all have the same config, pointing to the same session storage this will happen | 12:59 |
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| david-lyle | time's up. Take a look at the wiki page robcresswell posted | 13:00 |
| david-lyle | Thanks everyone and have a great week. | 13:00 |
| david-lyle | #endmeeting | 13:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 30 13:00:35 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:00 |
| r1chardj0n3s | g'night folks! | 13:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-09-30-12.01.html | 13:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-09-30-12.01.txt | 13:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-09-30-12.01.log.html | 13:00 |
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| tsufiev | r1chardj0n3s, good night | 13:01 |
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| mrunge | thanks everyone | 13:01 |
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| ddieterly | #startmeeting monasca | 14:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 30 14:59:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ddieterly. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:59 |
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| ddieterly | #topic rollcall | 15:00 |
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| ddieterly | o/ | 15:00 |
| bklei | o/ | 15:00 |
| witek | o/ | 15:00 |
| fabiog | o/ | 15:00 |
| ddieterly | #topic agenda | 15:00 |
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| ddieterly | roland is out today, so, no particular agenda in mind | 15:01 |
| ddieterly | anyone have something for the agenda? | 15:01 |
| bklei | i can give twc perf/vertica update | 15:01 |
| fabiog | I have an update on Congress | 15:01 |
| ddieterly | ok, cool. let's start with bklei | 15:01 |
| ddieterly | #topic perf/vertica update | 15:02 |
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| witek | i have one organisational topic | 15:02 |
| ddieterly | witek: ok | 15:02 |
| witek | i think we should use more IRC command from meetbot | 15:02 |
| ChristianB | there is an agenda-> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:02 |
| witek | to generate minutes automatically | 15:03 |
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| ddieterly | bklei: take it away please | 15:03 |
| bklei | k -- vertica came back and said our perf issue was more an enhancement request, we've escalated and involved our SE, so we have a meeting in the next hour to discuss | 15:03 |
| bklei | so no progress yet, but we're rattling cages | 15:03 |
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| ddieterly | any updates on the errors that you were seeing? | 15:04 |
| bklei | no, just saw that one occurrence of bad data, it looked ok from what i could see in the logs | 15:04 |
| bklei | i've scraped and if we see it again, will dig further | 15:04 |
| bklei | i'm not sure it couldn't have been from a stale agent | 15:05 |
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| bklei | because i was updating all agents to 1.1.6 | 15:05 |
| bklei | 1.1.16 that is | 15:05 |
| ddieterly | bklei: ok | 15:05 |
| bklei | and the timestamp looked earlier than my exercise | 15:05 |
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| bklei | so will keep an eye out for it | 15:05 |
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| ddieterly | how could the agent cause that error? | 15:06 |
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| bklei | we had some nodes that weren't controlled by puppet that may have been really old, like pre millis timestamp old | 15:06 |
| bklei | not sure, but now that i know we have all new agents, will see if it happens again | 15:07 |
| ddieterly | so, lack of millis might be the problem? | 15:07 |
| bklei | just reaching for straws, but we have seen ancient processes running even after an agent update where the restart doensn't really restart | 15:07 |
| ddieterly | ok | 15:08 |
| bklei | but -- would be nice to know how to 'properly' recover | 15:08 |
| bklei | and not kill a whole batch of metrics | 15:08 |
| ddieterly | any more info on perf/vertica or should we move on to fabiog? | 15:08 |
| bklei | ok to move on, will update next week after meeting today | 15:08 |
| ddieterly | yea, not sure how to delete selectively from kafka | 15:08 |
| bklei | i'd love to know how to do that :) | 15:09 |
| bklei | anyone that knows, please educate me | 15:09 |
| ddieterly | have you done any research n that? | 15:09 |
| bklei | rm -rf :) | 15:09 |
| witek | :) | 15:09 |
| fabiog | yeah | 15:10 |
| fabiog | but with sudo ;-) | 15:10 |
| bklei | but that's no bueno in prod | 15:10 |
| tomasztrebski | and for specific or all topics :D | 15:10 |
| bklei | all topics is what i did | 15:10 |
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| bklei | #ddieterly i'll open a bug with the details from yesterday | 15:11 |
| bklei | and we can watch it | 15:11 |
| ddieterly | we could write a filter that sits in between 2 kafka instances and filters out stuff | 15:11 |
| bklei | i guess, would have to think about that | 15:11 |
| ddieterly | or dump, filter, and reload | 15:12 |
| bklei | yeah -- removing the bad msg from the batch, retry | 15:12 |
| bklei | that would be good | 15:12 |
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| ddieterly | there's probably a solution already out there, just need to find it | 15:13 |
| bklei | agreed, lots of kafka experts out there | 15:13 |
| bklei | i'm sure there's a way to clean a bad msg | 15:13 |
| ddieterly | i hear that kafka is attracting the interest of other openstack projects, so the more we can help with expertise, the better | 15:13 |
| bklei | i'm afraid to directly do much of anything with kafka, i break things when i start playing | 15:14 |
| bklei | agree | 15:14 |
| ddieterly | ok, should we cut over to fabiog? | 15:14 |
| bklei | sure | 15:14 |
| ddieterly | take it away fabiog | 15:14 |
| fabiog | ok, I jus followed up to an AI I had | 15:15 |
| fabiog | I contacted the Congress PTL and team for a meeting during Summit | 15:15 |
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| fabiog | they are going yo see if they can dedicate some time out of the 3 sessions they have | 15:16 |
| fabiog | otherwise we need to find another space | 15:16 |
| ddieterly | do you have space now? | 15:16 |
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| fabiog | I will check if Cisco has a dedicated room, but I would like you folks to investigate that too | 15:17 |
| fabiog | also I think it would be good to spend some f2f time at summit for people that are going ... | 15:17 |
| ddieterly | ok, i would assume roland will be following up with that | 15:17 |
| ddieterly | who is going? i am not | 15:18 |
| fabiog | anyway I will report on that next week or so and provide a prelim agenda | 15:18 |
| bklei | i'm not | 15:18 |
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| witek | Martin is going and myself | 15:18 |
| ddieterly | cool | 15:18 |
| fabiog | cool | 15:18 |
| ddieterly | fabiog: anything else? | 15:18 |
| fabiog | I am going | 15:19 |
| fabiog | nope, that's iy | 15:19 |
| fabiog | it | 15:19 |
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| ddieterly | ok, witek take it away | 15:19 |
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| witek | well, our weekly minutes don't look well :( | 15:20 |
| ddieterly | were are the minutes? | 15:20 |
| witek | meeting minutes | 15:20 |
| witek | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2015/monasca.2015-09-23-15.00.html | 15:20 |
| witek | there are a couple of commands which generate entries there | 15:21 |
| witek | https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot | 15:21 |
| witek | we should try to use them, when possible | 15:21 |
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| ddieterly | ok, roland is usually all over this | 15:22 |
| bklei | the log shows the dialog -- is that not enough? | 15:22 |
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| ddieterly | looks like anyone can use the meetbot commands | 15:22 |
| witek | yes, at least part of them | 15:22 |
| ddieterly | so what topic are we on now? | 15:23 |
| ddieterly | looks like topic, info, and action are the most used | 15:23 |
| ddieterly | so, anyone can do info and action | 15:24 |
| ddieterly | i can do topic | 15:24 |
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| ddieterly | witek: did you have a topic at this point? | 15:24 |
| witek | yes | 15:25 |
| ddieterly | may we know it please ;-) | 15:25 |
| witek | oh, i misunderstood you | 15:26 |
| witek | well, this week we have product delivery | 15:26 |
| witek | so most of our resources are blocked | 15:26 |
| ddieterly | at fujitsu? | 15:26 |
| witek | for test division | 15:26 |
| witek | yes at Fujitsu | 15:27 |
| ddieterly | #topic product block at fujitsu test division | 15:27 |
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| ddieterly | viola | 15:27 |
| witek | :) | 15:27 |
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| ddieterly | anything else? | 15:27 |
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| ddieterly | fabiog: do we need an action item for your needs? | 15:28 |
| tomasztrebski | nice, anyway I think what witek is trying to say is that we can't find a nice amount of time to bring monasca-log-api to the public | 15:28 |
| fabiog | no | 15:28 |
| tomasztrebski | due to limited resources | 15:28 |
| fabiog | you can record it | 15:28 |
| fabiog | I will follow up | 15:28 |
| ddieterly | fabiog: what is the action item, please? | 15:28 |
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| witek | that's true | 15:29 |
| bklei | #fabiog you need any more data from me on twc prod metrics for ceilosca profiling? | 15:29 |
| ddieterly | tomasztrebski: i see | 15:29 |
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| tomasztrebski | anyway do you think that would be ok to make a change at gerrit as a initial or a draft ? | 15:30 |
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| tomasztrebski | just to let you guys look at it, maybe even test it ? | 15:30 |
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| ddieterly | tomasztrebski: yes, that would be fine | 15:30 |
| ChristianB | can you please distribute the info about the "amount of metrics" in production? | 15:31 |
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| ddieterly | ChristianB: whom are you asking? | 15:32 |
| witek | #action tomasztrebski pushes python monasca-log-api port to review | 15:32 |
| ddieterly | witek: nice | 15:32 |
| ChristianB | probably the guys from TWC? | 15:32 |
| bklei | christianb: here's what we have after ~5 months of monasca running in prod | 15:32 |
| bklei | 977,709 unique metrics | 15:32 |
| bklei | 1,523,348 max # of measurements per unique metric | 15:32 |
| bklei | 31,132,516,526 total rows in our vertica measurements table | 15:32 |
| bklei | could get more detail if needed | 15:33 |
| tomasztrebski | ChristianB: that was a question for the community in general | 15:33 |
| bmotz | out of curiosity, what sort of sample rate are you using on those metrics? | 15:33 |
| bklei | mostly default monasca-agent setting, collecting every 15 seconds | 15:34 |
| bklei | which ends up being ~3K metrics/sec | 15:34 |
| bklei | last i checked | 15:34 |
| bmotz | thanks | 15:34 |
| ChristianB | thanks! | 15:34 |
| ddieterly | i think that twc is the only production instance at this point | 15:34 |
| bklei | np, let me know if u need more detail | 15:34 |
| ddieterly | tomasztrebski: you guys in production with monasca? | 15:35 |
| bklei | fwiw -- twc loves monasca, we did a demo to our internal teams at twc, showing them what it'll look like as MaaS last week at a conf, they really want it | 15:35 |
| witek | ddieterly: no | 15:35 |
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| bmotz | bklei - is that with Vertica for the back end? | 15:36 |
| bklei | yes bmotz | 15:36 |
| ddieterly | ok, next topic? | 15:36 |
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| ddieterly | #topic monasca devstack integration | 15:37 |
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| ddieterly | so, i've been writing the devstack integration plugin | 15:37 |
| ddieterly | its a bash script that installs monasca with the rest of devstack in a vm | 15:37 |
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| ddieterly | i'm making good progress | 15:37 |
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| ddieterly | worried that a single vm will not be sufficient for monasca + devstack | 15:38 |
| bklei | not enough horsepower? | 15:38 |
| ddieterly | i put up some reviews, but i'm going to hold off with more until i have a complete working solution | 15:38 |
| ddieterly | bklei: yea | 15:38 |
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| ddieterly | if anyone is a bash expert and wants to comment on the reviews, that would be great | 15:39 |
| bklei | not an expert, but would like to review | 15:39 |
| ddieterly | ok, maybe all start putting up something as wip | 15:40 |
| bklei | cool | 15:40 |
| ddieterly | i don't like doing that because all the commits have to be squashed into 1 | 15:40 |
| bklei | don't rush it on my account | 15:40 |
| ddieterly | #action ddieterly will push up review as wip for monasca devstack integration | 15:41 |
| ddieterly | witek: cool, heh? | 15:41 |
| witek | i like ity | 15:41 |
| ddieterly | ok, next topic | 15:41 |
| tomasztrebski | #topic metrics in monasca-agent, control | 15:41 |
| ddieterly | tomasztrebski: you have the floor | 15:42 |
| tomasztrebski | can you tell us how granular or tight control can we get in context of metrics that are being loaded in monasca-agent ? | 15:42 |
| tomasztrebski | we know for sure that we can disable a set of them, but would it be somehow possible to disable some of them from the set ? | 15:42 |
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| tomasztrebski | perhaps we've missed something in there, because we couldn't locate anything helpful ? | 15:43 |
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| ddieterly | #topic metrics in monasca-agent, control | 15:43 |
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| ddieterly | the agent has a default set of metrics and then the rest are controlled by plugins | 15:44 |
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| tomasztrebski | yeah, but those plugins are loaded with set of metrics, so would it be only way to modify plugins to somehow disable some of them ? | 15:44 |
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| tomasztrebski | aren't there any solution to support that | 15:45 |
| tomasztrebski | ? | 15:45 |
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| ddieterly | you can edit the config files and delete the metrics that you don't want | 15:45 |
| ddieterly | it is controlled thru config files | 15:46 |
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| tomasztrebski | I see, well I think we will go from it and see where it leads, I hope that somewhere nice , it was good to ask to make sure anyway, thank you | 15:46 |
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| ddieterly | np | 15:46 |
| ddieterly | if you need more help, just email us | 15:46 |
| ddieterly | can we move to next topic? | 15:47 |
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| tomasztrebski | yes, tgx | 15:47 |
| tomasztrebski | *thx | 15:47 |
| ddieterly | (only chair can change topic btw) | 15:47 |
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| ddieterly | #topic code reviews | 15:47 |
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| tomasztrebski | whoops :) | 15:47 |
| ddieterly | so, we'd like to have more code reviews from others other than core | 15:48 |
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| ddieterly | is there something we can do to help get more reviewers? | 15:48 |
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| witek | #help support by code review needed | 15:48 |
| ddieterly | witek: lol, thanks | 15:49 |
| tomasztrebski | well, I am sometimes taking a peek at some of you changes and if there's something meaningful to add, I do so... at least in the context of the code itself | 15:49 |
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| tomasztrebski | witek: you rock :) | 15:49 |
| ddieterly | +1 | 15:49 |
| ddieterly | any ideas for helping make code reviews more accessible? | 15:50 |
| ddieterly | is there something that the core team can do to improve participation? | 15:50 |
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| tomasztrebski | I think one good idea would be to invite people we'd remember at the time of adding reviews ? I mean, let's say one was involved in monasca-common (python, java) somehow so let's add him to take a look | 15:51 |
| tomasztrebski | IMHO, it wont hurt to have more guys there | 15:51 |
| fabiog | ddieterly: maybe we should discuss in the meeting some of the important patches that need to be reviewed. We were doing this in Keystone | 15:52 |
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| ddieterly | #idea add previous code reviewers to reviewers list on code review submission | 15:52 |
| ddieterly | fabiog: ok | 15:52 |
| bklei | +1 fabiog, advertising here is a start | 15:52 |
| tomasztrebski | fabiog: +1 | 15:53 |
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| bklei | and in the monasca irc channel during the week | 15:53 |
| ddieterly | fabiog: ok | 15:53 |
| fabiog | bklei: is more than advertising you can explain what the patch is about and how it works, it would reduce the time to digest the change | 15:53 |
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| bklei | sure, good comment in the review header helps | 15:53 |
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| bmotz | also routinely having tests in patches may help | 15:54 |
| ddieterly | #idea discuss patches in monasca weekly meeting | 15:54 |
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| ddieterly | bmotz: agreed | 15:55 |
| ddieterly | 5 mins left | 15:55 |
| ddieterly | any other topics need discussing? | 15:55 |
| tomasztrebski | just one | 15:55 |
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| tomasztrebski | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227709/ | 15:56 |
| tomasztrebski | can someone help with this ? it is pure jave here but pep8 is failing | 15:56 |
| ddieterly | what is the pep8 error? | 15:56 |
| tomasztrebski | what surprises me the most is the fact that this change depends on mine (already merged) (also java) that had no issue with pep8 | 15:56 |
| bmotz | Error is "git commit title ('Fix for decimal separator during type conversion.') should not end with period" | 15:57 |
| ddieterly | your commit msg line is too long | 15:57 |
| ddieterly | and the title ends in a period | 15:57 |
| tomasztrebski | so that might a reason for failure ? ok, that's good to know, I'll leave Łukasz a comment to fix that | 15:57 |
| bmotz | you can click through from the gerrit review to the output of the PEP8 job on the Jenkins instance | 15:57 |
| bmotz | http://logs.openstack.org/09/227709/2/check/gate-monasca-common-pep8/2a40f34/console.html | 15:57 |
| tomasztrebski | omg, I dont know how I missed that....my bad | 15:58 |
| bklei | :) | 15:58 |
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| tomasztrebski | and could anyone give a final vote for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220914/, it's been already aproved by some of guys ( nice :) ) | 15:59 |
| tomasztrebski | ? | 15:59 |
| tomasztrebski | and that's it...really...no more topics for today :D | 15:59 |
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| ddieterly | tomasztrebski: does that help? | 16:00 |
| ddieterly | ok, time to end the meeting | 16:00 |
| witek | ddieterly: thank you | 16:00 |
| tomasztrebski | yes, thank you | 16:00 |
| ddieterly | your welcome :-) | 16:00 |
| ddieterly | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 30 16:01:08 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2015/monasca.2015-09-30-14.59.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2015/monasca.2015-09-30-14.59.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2015/monasca.2015-09-30-14.59.log.html | 16:01 |
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| david-lyle | #startmeeting horizondrivers | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 30 20:00:19 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizondrivers)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizondrivers' | 20:00 |
| david-lyle | any one like driving horizons around? | 20:00 |
| mrunge | o/ | 20:01 |
| david-lyle | well mrunge, we have a packed house today | 20:03 |
| mrunge | *yay!* | 20:03 |
| david-lyle | time to reject all open bps \o/ | 20:04 |
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| mrunge | exactly | 20:04 |
| tsufiev | (+_+) | 20:04 |
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| TravT | o/ | 20:04 |
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| mrunge | btw, we had one question about adding a ironic dashboard | 20:05 |
| mrunge | but nothing written yet | 20:05 |
| mrunge | I *think* we could use a table/whatever in Tokyo to collect ideas | 20:05 |
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| tqtran | [=_=]/ | 20:06 |
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| mrunge | I must admit, I'm badly prepared and relied on robcresswell to provide a list of blueprints to discuss | 20:07 |
| mrunge | do we have such a list (just in case?) | 20:08 |
| tqtran | i admit the same thing lol | 20:08 |
| tqtran | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Horizon/WeeklyBugReport#Blueprints | 20:08 |
| tqtran | yeah he had a list posted earlier | 20:08 |
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| david-lyle | I'm having terrible network issues today | 20:08 |
| david-lyle | no, I just usually sort the launchpad page | 20:08 |
| TravT | i've noticed you dropping in and out | 20:08 |
| mrunge | ah, ok. there are 3 new blueprints proposed | 20:08 |
| TravT | so, what is the status on rc2? what is the current criteria for a bug? | 20:09 |
| david-lyle | TravT: you looked to enjoy it so much | 20:09 |
| david-lyle | I thought I'd emulate :) | 20:09 |
| TravT | yeah, i think they finally fixed my network issues... | 20:09 |
| tsufiev | tqtran, that's a list for notifying people to look already exsiting/approved bps | 20:09 |
| tqtran | oh... well then, ignore my link earlier lmao | 20:09 |
| tqtran | thanks for pointing that out tsufiev | 20:09 |
| david-lyle | rc2 has some bugs that could potentially be included | 20:09 |
| david-lyle | but nothing overly terrible | 20:10 |
| david-lyle | the d-o-a bug is a separate release | 20:10 |
| tsufiev | tqtran, well, at least I know it about integration tests bp, 2 others are about angular stuff - still terra incognita for me :/ | 20:10 |
| david-lyle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bugs?field.tag=liberty-rc2-potential is the list for RC-2 | 20:10 |
| david-lyle | #chair mrunge | 20:11 |
| openstack | Current chairs: david-lyle mrunge | 20:11 |
| david-lyle | if my internet dies, mrunge can close | 20:12 |
| david-lyle | :) | 20:12 |
| mrunge | will do david-lyle | 20:12 |
| david-lyle | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/volumes-tagging | 20:12 |
| TravT | maybe not important enough to be included, but we've got a couple more magic search widget fixes that i'd ask to be considered to be added to the list... for reasons i can explain. | 20:12 |
| mrunge | TravT do you have links to bugs? | 20:13 |
| david-lyle | I suppose we should talk through RC-2 first | 20:13 |
| david-lyle | if the bug is not high or critical I'm against including it | 20:13 |
| TravT | ok, i don't think we can call it high or critical at this point | 20:13 |
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| david-lyle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1415712 | 20:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1415712 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) ""Volumes" tab doesn't show up if cinder v1 isn't registered" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Akihiro Motoki (amotoki) | 20:15 |
| david-lyle | would be good to get in if we can clean it up | 20:15 |
| mrunge | that is true for kilo as well, imho | 20:15 |
| david-lyle | v2 is purported to be stable in liberty, so it's conceivable folks would stop using v1 | 20:15 |
| mrunge | I mean the bug is in kilo, too | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | but I think the patch needs a revisit IIRC | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | the two subnetpool bugs would be nice since that's new functionality in Liberty | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1498926 | 20:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1498926 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Unable to create subnet from IPv6 subnetpool" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Frode Nordahl (fnordahl) | 20:17 |
| david-lyle | and | 20:17 |
| david-lyle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1495191 | 20:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1495191 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Create subnet from subnetpool fails in stable/liberty" [Medium,Fix committed] - Assigned to Frode Nordahl (fnordahl) | 20:17 |
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| mrunge | this is a backport to liberty? | 20:18 |
| david-lyle | the functionality was added in late liberty, and should be backported yes | 20:19 |
| mrunge | unfortunately, this fix is not covered by a test | 20:20 |
| mrunge | I don't feel like we have the time to ask the contributor to provide a test case for this, squashing both commits in one for the backport | 20:23 |
| david-lyle | RC-2 will happen next week | 20:23 |
| david-lyle | so yeah, not a lot of time | 20:23 |
| david-lyle | but some new functionality is just broken at this point | 20:24 |
| tsufiev | I'd like to suggest another bugfix for rc2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1286099 | 20:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1286099 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "UpdateProjectQuotas doesn't pay attention on disabled_quotas" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Timur Sufiev (tsufiev-x) | 20:24 |
| mrunge | Timur, I thought we'll only add high or critical bugs to rc2 | 20:25 |
| tsufiev | mrunge, yes, Matthias, right | 20:25 |
| david-lyle | let's get that cleaned up in M | 20:26 |
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| david-lyle | agree would be nice, but | 20:26 |
| tsufiev | okay, shall wait for M, procedures should be done as usual... | 20:26 |
| mrunge | disabled quotas are still more or less broken | 20:26 |
| david-lyle | any other issues people have come across that we haven't discussed that would be worth holding up a release for? | 20:27 |
| david-lyle | personally I think the db is the only one that really qualifies | 20:27 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, do we have a bug for translations? | 20:27 |
| mrunge | or do we need a bug for translations? | 20:27 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: not that I'm aware of | 20:27 |
| david-lyle | but would be good for tracking | 20:27 |
| mrunge | translations will be proposed automatically without adding the tracker bug though | 20:28 |
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| david-lyle | either way, and since the only factor for RC-2 is really translation, they likely won't get overlooked | 20:29 |
| david-lyle | we can skip for now | 20:29 |
| david-lyle | should we clean up some old bps in the remaining time ? | 20:29 |
| mrunge | yes please! | 20:29 |
| david-lyle | #topic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/volumes-tagging | 20:30 |
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| david-lyle | that one looks like it didn't even make it through the cinder side | 20:31 |
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| mrunge | scrap it | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/volumes-tagging marked obsolete | 20:31 |
| mrunge | tightly connected: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/tag-volume | 20:31 |
| mrunge | code is abandoned | 20:32 |
| david-lyle | yes | 20:32 |
| mrunge | and it's a blocker for the other bp | 20:32 |
| mrunge | If anyone comes up with a new proposal, let's discuss that. | 20:32 |
| david-lyle | #topic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/trove-vertica-cluster-support | 20:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/trove-vertica-cluster-support (Meeting topic: horizondrivers)" | 20:33 | |
| mrunge | tagging is obsolete david-lyle ? | 20:33 |
| mrunge | just for reference... | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | I marked the bp obsolete | 20:34 |
| mrunge | ok, thanks. | 20:34 |
| mrunge | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/tag-volume marked obsolete | 20:34 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: I don't know about the cinder one | 20:34 |
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| tsufiev | Cluster and topology view - love these words | 20:35 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, oh, I misunderstood you | 20:35 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, I would mark that one as obsolete as well, if nobody objects | 20:35 |
| david-lyle | well I typically don't mark cinder bps | 20:36 |
| david-lyle | nor do I think I can | 20:36 |
| david-lyle | permissions wise | 20:36 |
| tsufiev | Unfortunately, don't understand what other things are about ) | 20:36 |
| mrunge | errr. my mistake | 20:36 |
| david-lyle | vertica is a proprietary db | 20:36 |
| david-lyle | I don't think we need to support a particular db backend in tree | 20:37 |
| mrunge | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/tag-volume undecided. | 20:37 |
| mrunge | we should not | 20:37 |
| david-lyle | that should be plugin content | 20:37 |
| mrunge | it's the same as adding vendor specific driver support | 20:37 |
| TravT | i guess the question is, do we have proper support to enable that then? | 20:38 |
| mrunge | uhm, isn't trove just moved to contrib to be removed in mitaka cycle? | 20:38 |
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| david-lyle | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/trove-vertica-cluster-support marked obsolete | 20:38 |
| david-lyle | I left a note in the bo | 20:39 |
| david-lyle | *bp | 20:39 |
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| mrunge | but TravT s question is valid. | 20:39 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: most likely, need to discuss with Trove team | 20:39 |
| doug-fish | I'd say if we don't have the needed support, adding it is a fair request | 20:39 |
| mrunge | do we have enough support for plugins... | 20:39 |
| david-lyle | TravT: I don't see how we don't | 20:39 |
| TravT | me neither, but i just don't know | 20:39 |
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| mrunge | doug-fish, or we need to fix that first | 20:39 |
| lhcheng_ | TravT: interesting question, for the vertica backend, they need to inject fields and logic to existing forms. | 20:40 |
| TravT | i guess if all of trove is in its own repo, then there shouldn't be a problem | 20:40 |
| tsufiev | TravT: reimplementing d3 topology graph in every plugin would be a shame | 20:40 |
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| david-lyle | I think these are unique views | 20:40 |
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| david-lyle | d3 is the tool, topology considerations are unique to the content | 20:40 |
| tsufiev | Challenge accepted ) | 20:41 |
| TravT | i suppose that if there are specific things they need in the horizon framework, that should be a separate bug or blueprint. | 20:41 |
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| david-lyle | TravT: I agree | 20:41 |
| lhcheng_ | TravT: making sure we have the plugin support for that use case would be useful for other deployments | 20:42 |
| lhcheng_ | ++ | 20:42 |
| TravT | i'll add that as comment on the BP | 20:42 |
| david-lyle | but again I'm not sure how much more commonality there is than at the d3 level | 20:42 |
| david-lyle | but I suppose abstract call-outs etc, could be generalized | 20:43 |
| david-lyle | #topic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/trove-support-cluster-grow-shrink | 20:43 |
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| tsufiev | david-lyle: I was meaning angular topology graph https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199063/ | 20:44 |
| tsufiev | But agree, their use cases may be very different | 20:44 |
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| david-lyle | tsufiev: I won't argue there's potential, but I wouldn't over invest unless we're pretty sure there's value | 20:45 |
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| tsufiev | Sure | 20:45 |
| david-lyle | I think the trove one is a yes, as long as trove support is in horizon | 20:45 |
| david-lyle | grow/shrink that is | 20:45 |
| david-lyle | any argument? | 20:46 |
| mrunge | I would say: yes. accept | 20:46 |
| mrunge | as long as trove support is in | 20:46 |
| david-lyle | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/trove-support-cluster-grow-shrink approved | 20:47 |
| mrunge | I've had the request of redis support in horizon | 20:47 |
| mrunge | and that's a dependent patch | 20:47 |
| david-lyle | so stepping back a sec | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | I think I want to have the conversation with trove first | 20:49 |
| david-lyle | before reviewing the list of trove bps | 20:49 |
| mrunge | makes sense | 20:49 |
| TravT | +1 | 20:49 |
| david-lyle | because I think the vertica one makes perfect sense for them | 20:50 |
| david-lyle | just not us | 20:50 |
| TravT | hey all just FYI that I have to leave for an appointment right now. thanks! | 20:50 |
| mrunge | thanks TravT | 20:50 |
| david-lyle | #action david-lyle talk to Trove about in-tree vs plugin | 20:50 |
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| david-lyle | thanks TravT | 20:51 |
| david-lyle | #topic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/show-all-floating-ips | 20:51 |
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| mrunge | ugh. | 20:51 |
| david-lyle | :) | 20:51 |
| mrunge | not much content here | 20:51 |
| david-lyle | so list all active floating IPs in the cloud? | 20:52 |
| mrunge | I've heard this as an operator feedback more than once | 20:52 |
| mrunge | yes, in best case, include connected vms | 20:52 |
| david-lyle | how big is the list before unusable? | 20:53 |
| lhcheng_ | related to Floating IP, Cern/Yahoo had to manually hide Sec Group and Floating IP in horizon through manual patches. | 20:53 |
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| david-lyle | because of nova net? | 20:53 |
| mrunge | those patches should be avoidable with the finer granular plugin system | 20:54 |
| david-lyle | well I think it's certainly a neutron only issue for listing all floating IPs | 20:54 |
| mrunge | yes, probably | 20:54 |
| lhcheng_ | Isn't Floating IP more used for public cloud consumer? | 20:54 |
| mrunge | uhm, and if you want HA? | 20:55 |
| mrunge | not sure, if HA is possible with nova net | 20:55 |
| david-lyle | it's not | 20:55 |
| * david-lyle says authoritatively, but is only fairly sure | 20:56 | |
| mrunge | the question remains, how many fips to show here, before it becomes unusable | 20:56 |
| tsufiev | mrunge: pagination? | 20:57 |
| lhcheng_ | david-lyle: could be because of nova net, but we have a different system for managing networks | 20:57 |
| mrunge | tsufiev, not sure if that's supported here | 20:57 |
| david-lyle | lhcheng_: are FIPs a configuration option in neutron, or always on? | 20:57 |
| tsufiev | mrunge: I think it' supported by neutron, not by nova-net | 20:58 |
| david-lyle | I'd like to see this fleshed out more before moving forward | 20:58 |
| mrunge | I think we could restrict this to neutron | 20:58 |
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| mrunge | ok, thanks | 20:59 |
| david-lyle | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/show-all-floating-ips marked discussion | 20:59 |
| * tsufiev curious how long nova-net should be supported by horizon | 20:59 | |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: as long as it is in nova | 20:59 |
| lhcheng_ | mrunge: yeah, finer grained plugin system should help. | 20:59 |
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| mrunge | tsufiev, as long as the used api is the same? | 21:00 |
| lhcheng_ | mrunge: have to go back to drawing board what more extension point we need to have. | 21:00 |
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| mrunge | lhcheng_, extension point for what? | 21:00 |
| tsufiev | We did a study regarding pagination support, neutron looks much better | 21:00 |
| mrunge | lhcheng_, disabling fips panel? | 21:01 |
| lhcheng_ | mrunge: not just disabling fips panel, some fips/sec group code are embedded in other panels | 21:01 |
| mrunge | right | 21:02 |
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| mrunge | lhcheng_, adding checks around those codes should help | 21:02 |
| mrunge | time's up? | 21:03 |
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| lhcheng_ | mrunge: yeah, could work. worth trying out. | 21:03 |
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| lhcheng_ | mrunge: you can end the meeting :P | 21:03 |
| mrunge | #char david-ly_ | 21:03 |
| mrunge | #endmeeting | 21:04 |
| lhcheng_ | maybe dave got disconnected? | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:04 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 30 21:04:00 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:04 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2015/horizondrivers.2015-09-30-20.00.html | 21:04 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2015/horizondrivers.2015-09-30-20.00.txt | 21:04 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2015/horizondrivers.2015-09-30-20.00.log.html | 21:04 |
| mrunge | thanks everybody | 21:04 |
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| lhcheng_ | thanks mrunge david-ly_ | 21:04 |
| david-ly_ | got dropped | 21:05 |
| david-ly_ | thanks mrunge | 21:05 |
| tsufiev | Thanks and good night | 21:05 |
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| mrunge | see you next Wednesday at 12 UTC and at 20:00 UTC again for the regular meeting | 21:05 |
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