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mestery | dougwig kevinbenton amotoki carl_baldwin: Drivers meeting, but I know dougwig carl_baldwin and kevinbenton aren't here ... | 15:00 |
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mestery | So amotoki: Shall we cancel today? | 15:00 |
kevinbenton | i'm here now | 15:00 |
mestery | kevinbenton: Wow, awesome! | 15:00 |
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mestery | kevinbenton: Unless we get amotoki here, I propose we cancel | 15:01 |
mestery | kevinbenton: Unless you want to wax poetic to me | 15:01 |
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kevinbenton | i just had one RFE that I wanted to make sure was okay | 15:01 |
regXboi | mestery, kevinbenton: we could talk about routed networks with the time :) | 15:01 |
amotoki | I am here. I am okay with either choice. | 15:01 |
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kevinbenton | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1477331 | 15:02 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1477331 in neutron "RFE: Allow a range of VXLAN multicast groups" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to John Nielsen (r-2ohn-d) | 15:02 |
mestery | kevinbenton: Bleah! OK, lets do a short meeting | 15:02 |
mestery | #startmeeting neutron-drivers | 15:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 28 15:02:25 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mestery. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 15:02 |
mestery | kevinbenton: Can you re-propose that RFE so it lands in the logs? | 15:02 |
kevinbenton | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1477331 | 15:02 |
kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1477331 | 15:02 |
kevinbenton | it's pretty straigtforward and the patch is done at this poing | 15:03 |
kevinbenton | point* | 15:03 |
mestery | kevinbenton: I agree | 15:04 |
mestery | kevinbenton: Please comment in the bug that this one is good to go | 15:04 |
amotoki | it looks reasonable. Linux bridge support it. | 15:04 |
regXboi | I'm not a driver, but I agree with kevinbenton (I've been looking at it for a while) | 15:04 |
kevinbenton | mestery: ack | 15:05 |
kevinbenton | that's all i wanted to bring up today, routed networks are going to require more discussion on the mailing list i think | 15:06 |
mestery | kevinbenton: Ack on routed networks | 15:06 |
mestery | So, kevinbenton amotoki, I really also wanted to highlight the reveiws of Liberty-3 items | 15:06 |
mestery | We need to focus on those | 15:06 |
mestery | And really shepard those things in | 15:06 |
mestery | That's all I had | 15:07 |
mestery | Anything else? | 15:07 |
regXboi | cookies? | 15:07 |
amotoki | mestery: question: when and how do we target rfe bugs to a milestone? | 15:07 |
mestery | amotoki: Once it's been given the green light to move forward, please target it to Liberty-3 at this point | 15:08 |
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mestery | But I really wanted to highlight that even though we have no deadlines, at this point, with 5 weeks left, we need to shift gears to merging what's already in Liberty-3 | 15:08 |
amotoki | mestery: got it | 15:08 |
mestery | Because there is al ot left to merge | 15:08 |
amotoki | totally agree | 15:08 |
kevinbenton | do you have a link to liberty-3 items? | 15:09 |
mestery | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/liberty-3 | 15:09 |
mestery | kevinbenton: ^^^ | 15:09 |
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mestery | So, thanks for attending kevinbenton and amotoki! | 15:10 |
mestery | #endmeeting | 15:10 |
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kevinbenton | thx | 15:10 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2015/neutron_drivers.2015-07-28-15.02.html | 15:10 |
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amotoki | thanks | 15:10 |
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briancurtin | #startmeeting python-openstacksdk | 19:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 28 19:01:08 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'python_openstacksdk' | 19:01 |
etoews | o/ | 19:02 |
briancurtin | if you're around for the meeting, which i dont think anyone currently is until terry arrives late, say hi. not much to talk about right now anyway | 19:02 |
briancurtin | oh hello | 19:02 |
* etoews here today, gone tomorrow | 19:02 | |
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briancurtin | the only thing i have on the list until we're ready for a release is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197741/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191535/ (the latter of which i just +2'ed) | 19:04 |
stevelle | hui | 19:04 |
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etoews | on the latter, apparently it has some impact on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199318/ | 19:05 |
etoews | in the BaseFunctionalTest | 19:06 |
briancurtin | i cant imagine how those are in any way related, but ok | 19:06 |
briancurtin | oh | 19:06 |
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etoews | i suspect the occ config thing won't help me at all | 19:08 |
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etoews | oh wait...maybe. | 19:09 |
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etoews | once it merges, i'll rebase...after i get back from vacation. | 19:10 |
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briancurtin | on 197741 i'm still not sure if we should be solving that problem within the SDK. providers using a provider-specific naming scheme seems like a thing to solve within a plugin, but terry hinted that that's true and this may still help, but i guess i dont totally get it then | 19:11 |
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briancurtin | since rackspace has a few of these "rax:<something>" entries, i think we should handle that in our plugin. i dont want anyone to be exposed to "rax" anywhere | 19:11 |
etoews | seems like a path to vendor madness | 19:14 |
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briancurtin | id prefer to just enable providers to load something, but not take it any further. us or anyone else using weird names or doing different things should just be handled outside of the sdk. if we need to subclass ServiceFilter and implement that on our own, that's probably what i'd do | 19:20 |
briancurtin | and it's really only a problem taht needs to be solved for rackspace and HP plugins. nothing within upstream openstack appears to need this | 19:21 |
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terrylhowe | o/ | 19:22 |
briancurtin | terrylhowe: the only thing i have on the list until we're ready for a release is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197741/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191535/ (the latter of which i just +2'ed) | 19:23 |
briancurtin | terrylhowe: we were just getting into talking about 197741, and im not sure we should be dealing with that within the SDK. only HP and rackspace have things named like that, so i think that's somethign we should be handling entirely within our plugins | 19:24 |
terrylhowe | maybe we should skip 197741 and go with a service type alias thing | 19:24 |
terrylhowe | I was working on aliases on my flight today | 19:24 |
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briancurtin | terrylhowe: do we need this service alias thing for a release? | 19:24 |
terrylhowe | well, we’ll need something for the various plugins but not really for a release | 19:25 |
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etoews | it is possible that private openstack clouds can change their service name/type in keystone. | 19:26 |
terrylhowe | yes | 19:26 |
etoews | why would they do that instead of the "devstack" default? who knows. | 19:26 |
briancurtin | terrylhowe: i think we should go on with a release then if 191535 checks out. right now just about every service will work fine as-is. a few with the colon just won't and we can get it in the next release | 19:26 |
terrylhowe | sounds good, 191535 is important for the OSC POC | 19:27 |
terrylhowe | the service type alias thing is not so important for that | 19:27 |
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briancurtin | etoews: will you have time to take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191535/? | 19:29 |
etoews | sure | 19:30 |
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etoews | fyi, the service type/name could change as a result of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181393/5/specs/service-catalog.rst | 19:33 |
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briancurtin | etoews: what's the timeframe on something like that being implemented? | 19:37 |
etoews | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 19:37 |
etoews | let's see if we can find annegentle | 19:38 |
etoews | the ping is out | 19:38 |
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etoews | hello annegentle | 19:42 |
annegentle | hey etoews | 19:42 |
etoews | so the service type/name could possible change as a result of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181393/5/specs/service-catalog.rst correct? | 19:42 |
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annegentle | So there's also the name changes for consistency in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201160/ | 19:43 |
annegentle | and the one that depends on that one, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201670/ | 19:43 |
annegentle | and I still need an assignee for writing a test for names | 19:44 |
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annegentle | I talked about it at a cross project meeting about 2 weeks ago | 19:44 |
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annegentle | seems generally appreciated | 19:45 |
annegentle | any questions about it? Still under discussion | 19:45 |
etoews | we really just need to know if we should provide some flexibility within the sdk to handle different service name/type | 19:47 |
etoews | to answer briancurtin and considering those are all spec | 19:47 |
etoews | doh | 19:47 |
annegentle | ah okay. I think so. | 19:48 |
annegentle | For example, check out this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206198/ | 19:48 |
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etoews | to answer briancurtin's question, considering those are all specs, it's anybody's guess when they'll be implemented. | 19:48 |
annegentle | Barbican's change from Key management service to Key manager service for example | 19:48 |
annegentle | Weird, I don't see any question from Brian. Anywho. The idea is that the names could then be used when reviewing. | 19:48 |
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annegentle | But yes, it's fallable. | 19:49 |
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annegentle | The JSON Schema in line 154 could offer some testing against a known list. | 19:49 |
briancurtin | etoews: so...should we care about unimplemented specs? | 19:49 |
briancurtin | at least in terms of implementing code against them within the SDK | 19:50 |
briancurtin | seems like jumping too far ahead and being *too* flexible until we know we need to be | 19:50 |
annegentle | briancurtin: it's a fair question. What do you want the world to look like? | 19:50 |
briancurtin | i dont have time to care about the entire ecosystem. i just need to write code that works in real life and lets people build stuff. | 19:51 |
annegentle | briancurtin: then yeah, I would focus on now | 19:52 |
etoews | briancurtin: i know what you mean. i think we don't need to as long as we don't design ourselves into a corner. meaning if we did need to add code later that handle differing service name/type in the sdk that it wouldn't affect the public interface of the sdk. | 19:52 |
etoews | does that make sense? | 19:52 |
briancurtin | yep | 19:53 |
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annegentle | I sound a little too philosophical :) | 19:53 |
etoews | :) | 19:53 |
etoews | ohmmmmmmm | 19:54 |
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briancurtin | anything in these last few minutes to cover? | 19:56 |
etoews | i'm off on vacation. back aug. 10. | 19:56 |
annegentle | lucky! | 19:56 |
annegentle | :) | 19:57 |
etoews | \o/ | 19:57 |
terrylhowe | etoews: you just got back! | 19:57 |
etoews | i know. :) | 19:57 |
terrylhowe | just a little envy here | 19:58 |
etoews | i had a bunch saved up. gotta spend it sometime. | 19:59 |
briancurtin | #endmeeting | 20:01 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 28 20:01:01 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-07-28-19.01.html | 20:01 |
briancurtin | thanks everyone | 20:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-07-28-19.01.txt | 20:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-07-28-19.01.log.html | 20:01 |
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etoews | thanks all. see you later. | 20:01 |
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pballand | hello congress peeps :) | 22:59 |
RuiChen | hi pballand | 23:00 |
jwy | howdy | 23:00 |
pballand | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 23:00 |
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pballand | hmm | 23:00 |
pballand | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 23:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 28 23:01:11 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is pballand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 23:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 23:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 23:01 |
pballand | thinrichs had a conflict this week, so will be running the meeting | 23:01 |
masahito | hi | 23:02 |
Yingxin1 | :) | 23:02 |
zhenzanz | Good morning and good afternoon:-) | 23:02 |
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pballand | there are a couple things on the agenda, but before I get to that, does anyone have somethign they want to add? | 23:03 |
masahito | nothing from me. | 23:03 |
pballand | ok, I’ll go with my items, and people can chime in after :) | 23:04 |
pballand | first item is meeting time - it looks like 5pm pacific works best for everyone, but Tuesday doens’t work | 23:04 |
pballand | so the plan is to stick with 5pm, but pick a new day | 23:04 |
pballand | here is a poll to voice your preference: | 23:05 |
pballand | #link http://doodle.com/5brc9vhggvtiipk3 | 23:05 |
masahito | #topic Meetingtime | 23:05 |
pballand | masahito: thanks :) | 23:05 |
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pballand | it would be really helpful if everyone could spend a few seconds to check days that work for them | 23:06 |
pballand | any questions or comments on meeting time? | 23:06 |
masahito | pballand: ;) | 23:06 |
pballand | ok, moving on… | 23:07 |
pballand | #topic Tokyo summit talks | 23:07 |
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pballand | Voting for talks closes this friday | 23:07 |
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pballand | if you haven’t already, please take the time to express your preferences | 23:08 |
pballand | here are a couple talks that are related to congress: | 23:08 |
pballand | “Unifying Congress and Keystone Policies” | 23:09 |
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pballand | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/vote-for-speakers/presentation/4388 | 23:09 |
pballand | “Congress Hands On Lab” | 23:09 |
pballand | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/vote-for-speakers/presentation/4396 | 23:09 |
pballand | “Telco usecase for Congress” | 23:09 |
pballand | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/vote-for-speakers/presentation/4617 | 23:09 |
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pballand | does anyone have other talks they want to point out? | 23:10 |
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pballand | moving right along… | 23:11 |
pballand | #topic Midcycle sprint | 23:11 |
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pballand | We are having a midcycle meetup / code sprint next week on Aug 6/7 | 23:11 |
pballand | please RSVP if you are attending in person so we can get a headcount for food | 23:11 |
pballand | #link https://www.eventbrite.com/e/congress-liberty-midcycle-sprint-tickets-17654731778 | 23:12 |
pballand | I know some people have expressed interest in attending remotely, which is great as well | 23:12 |
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RuiChen | we can access it online? | 23:13 |
pballand | RuiChen: we will definitely communicate on IRC, and can set up a teleconference | 23:13 |
pballand | in the past, voice/video has been spotty, however | 23:14 |
RuiChen | cool | 23:14 |
pballand | our main focus is to crank on improving the message bus, so communication and code contributions will be helpful both in person and remote | 23:15 |
pballand | any other questions about the sprint? | 23:15 |
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pballand | #topic Project milestones | 23:16 |
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pballand | the Liberty-2 milestone is this week | 23:16 |
pballand | Liberty-3 and feature fress is Sept 1-3 | 23:16 |
pballand | We have several changes that are targeted at Liberty-2. Please update launchpad to reflect the current state of tasks you are working on. | 23:17 |
pballand | If the code is not already merged, retarget to Liberty-3 | 23:17 |
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RuiChen | get it | 23:18 |
zhenzanz | sorry, bp/action-listing may miss Liberty-2. The main reason is that we can't find an effective way to parse execution methods Congress would call | 23:18 |
pballand | thinrichs told me he would be working on retargetting blueprints | 23:18 |
zhenzanz | I did some work last week, novaclient has very good document for API | 23:18 |
zhenzanz | but neutronclient is terrible | 23:19 |
pballand | zhenzanz: good to know - sounds like you are making good progress despite the missed target | 23:19 |
zhenzanz | and it decorates all APIs with APIParamsCall so we cannot inspect the original function doc and args | 23:20 |
pballand | zhenzanz: are you blocked, or is there just more work to do than anticipated? | 23:21 |
zhenzanz | so we may merge the main logic at first | 23:21 |
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zhenzanz | I think it's blocked if we want to go the parsing way. | 23:22 |
zhenzanz | or is it acceptable that we just list the API names if we cannot parse doc and args? | 23:24 |
masahito | zhenzanz: If we need some changes for neutron, I can ask neutron folks of it. | 23:24 |
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zhenzanz | Thank you masahito. Maybe two things: | 23:25 |
pballand | masahito: it would be great to check with the Neutron team for a way to optimize this | 23:25 |
zhenzanz | 1. save original function info in the decorate | 23:25 |
pballand | #topic Status updates | 23:25 |
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zhenzanz | 2. provides enough document for APIs and their arguments | 23:25 |
RuiChen | is there same issue for other clients, like: heatclient, cinderclient? | 23:26 |
masahito | ok. please tell me little details about the two things. | 23:26 |
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masahito | 1. is it for neutronclient, right? | 23:27 |
zhenzanz | yes | 23:27 |
masahito | 2. The document means python document written in the codes, doesn't it? | 23:28 |
zhenzanz | I didn't try other client yet | 23:28 |
zhenzanz | yes, the inline doc in code | 23:28 |
zhenzanz | currently there is no doc for parameters | 23:28 |
masahito | got it. I'll tell him these. | 23:29 |
zhenzanz | thanks | 23:29 |
pballand | masahito, zhenzanz : thanks for working that out | 23:30 |
pballand | any other status updates? | 23:30 |
Yingxin1 | yes, I have finished my first spec for rpc-for-dse, it's now in review state | 23:31 |
veena | pballand: bp python3 support is work in progress | 23:31 |
Yingxin1 | masahito: thanks for reviewing, I've replied | 23:32 |
pballand | Yingxin1: thanks - will take a look | 23:33 |
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Yingxin1 | thank you | 23:33 |
pballand | veena: fantastic - how’s it going? any blockers or questions? | 23:33 |
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masahito | Yingxin1: you're welcom. I'll check your replay. | 23:34 |
Yingxin1 | masahito: :-D | 23:35 |
RuiChen | I working on bug/1473924, I can push a demo about refactor neutronv2 driver today, welcome to reveiwing | 23:35 |
veena | pballand: yeah, the build has failed with changing basetring to six.string_types. many test cases failed. I'll take a look. | 23:35 |
veena | pballand: couldn't check it yesterday | 23:36 |
pballand | veena: ok, glad you’re pushing forward | 23:36 |
pballand | RuiChen: great | 23:36 |
veena | pballand: Thanks | 23:37 |
pballand | speaking of test failures - how’s tempest stuff going? Is everying passing after Zhenzan’s patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203504/) | 23:37 |
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pballand | it would be nice to enable gating on tempest again | 23:38 |
zhenzanz | I can pass all tempest cases in my environment | 23:38 |
zhenzanz | but my two tempest patches are still under review | 23:38 |
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zhenzanz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202870/ | 23:39 |
zhenzanz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203019/ | 23:39 |
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pballand | zhenzanz: thanks for the update - do we need to ping some tempest cores to review? | 23:41 |
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zhenzanz | I add Jordan Pittier, but progress is slow | 23:42 |
pballand | ok - if anyone has time to review and add some +1’s, maybe that will get their attention | 23:45 |
zhenzanz | thanks | 23:45 |
pballand | any other updates? | 23:45 |
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masahito | I have | 23:46 |
masahito | I've been writing a new spec named 'policy-violation-history' | 23:46 |
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pballand | masahito: cool - do you have a link? | 23:47 |
masahito | but there are some choices in its implementation, so it's hard to define changes in the spec. | 23:47 |
masahito | pballand: sorry, I've not submitted yes. | 23:48 |
masahito | not yes, but yet. | 23:48 |
pballand | masahito: there are placeholders for alternatives in the spec format - I would suggest picking whatever choice you are leaning toward, but be sure to fully document alternatives so others can voice their suggestions during review | 23:49 |
pballand | or, we can dicusss here or in #congress :-) | 23:49 |
pballand | (hard to discuss before seeing the spec though) | 23:50 |
masahito | I think so. | 23:50 |
masahito | I'll fully document in the spec and write a best change I think as definition. please wait few days. | 23:51 |
pballand | masahito: sounds great, thanks | 23:52 |
pballand | we have just a few minutes left - is there anything anyone else wants to cover? | 23:52 |
pballand | #topic Open Discussion | 23:52 |
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pballand | ok, thanks everyone for participating | 23:53 |
zhenzanz | what's the working time for the sprint | 23:54 |
RuiChen | please help to review this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205920/ , if it's merged, I finish the BP version-list-API, thanks | 23:54 |
pballand | zhenzanz: since the sprint is in Palo Alto, I expect most discussions will be between 9am - 5pm PDT | 23:54 |
pballand | code and reviews can be any time, of course | 23:55 |
zhenzanz | Got it, thanks. I'll try join remotely | 23:55 |
RuiChen | it's congressclient part code of this BP, congress part had been merged. | 23:55 |
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pballand | RuiChen: will do | 23:56 |
RuiChen | pballand: thank you | 23:56 |
pballand | I expect thinrichs will want to update the meeting time and day again ASAP, so keep an eye on the mailing list and web page for next week’s time | 23:56 |
pballand | That’s it for this week, thanks for joining and have a great week! | 23:58 |
pballand | #endmeeting | 23:59 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 28 23:59:03 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:59 |
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openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2015/congressteammeeting.2015-07-28-23.01.txt | 23:59 |
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