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| itzikb | Hi, Is there a libvirt meeting ? | 15:08 |
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| thomasem | itzikb: Trying to get ahold of danpb | 15:10 |
| thomasem | itzikb: It's been rather spotty lately, so, not sure if it's happening today. | 15:10 |
| thomasem | Was hoping to discuss this issue where the LXC driver documents that shutdown ought to work, but I'm getting mount namespace implementation errors. | 15:10 |
| thomasem | by implementation errors, I mean not implemented errors. :P | 15:11 |
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| itzikb | And I was hoping to get some answers regarding the deprecated vif_driver .. | 15:11 |
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| thomasem | itzikb: Yeah, we might need to hit the mailing list to get traction. | 15:13 |
| itzikb | thomasem: Already did.. | 15:13 |
| mtesauro | I've been here since 5 minutes till and its been very quiet | 15:14 |
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| itzikb | So maybe I'll try to ask my question here anyway.. :-) | 15:16 |
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| itzikb | dansmith:ping | 15:17 |
| thomasem | ah | 15:17 |
| dansmith | itzikb: ? | 15:17 |
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| itzikb | dansmith:I wonder If I can ask you about the deprecated vif_driver | 15:18 |
| dansmith | itzikb: what about it? | 15:19 |
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| itzikb | dansmith: I have an out of the tree vif driver. What should I do in Juno? | 15:19 |
| dansmith | itzikb: we don't support out of tree vif drivers | 15:19 |
| itzikb | dansmith: So there is not way to use vif drivers other than the ones that are already included? | 15:23 |
| dansmith | itzikb: correct | 15:23 |
| dansmith | itzikb: that configuration variable was not there to facilitate out of tree drivers, but to allow you to choose the driver from our tree that you wanted to use | 15:23 |
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| dansmith | itzikb: we combined them so you don't have to do that anymore, which means that conf variable goes away | 15:24 |
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| itzikb | dansmith: What about developing solutions that are experimental and can't be pushed upstream? | 15:24 |
| dansmith | itzikb: that's not what that thing was for | 15:25 |
| dansmith | itzikb: your driver can refactor the code that is there, which can be proposed as a WIP against the tree until it's ready | 15:25 |
| itzikb | dansmith: but then it'll be limited | 15:26 |
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| dansmith | itzikb: I dunno what to tell you... we've been on a path to getting rid of as many of those class variables as we can for several cycles now | 15:27 |
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| dansmith | itzikb: they're not plugin points, they're not stable APIs, and they're not to facilitate out of tree development or drivers | 15:27 |
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| itzikb | dansmith: So we need to raise the point of out of the tree development? | 15:28 |
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| dansmith | itzikb: I dunno what that means | 15:29 |
| itzikb | dansmith: Maybe in the summit? | 15:29 |
| dansmith | itzikb: sure, you can raise it at the summit if you like | 15:29 |
| itzikb | dansmith: Your personal point is that we shouldn't support these cases? | 15:30 |
| dansmith | itzikb: it's not just my opinion, but yes. | 15:30 |
| itzikb | dansmith: thanks for answering my questions | 15:31 |
| dansmith | yep | 15:31 |
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| david-lyle | #startmeeting Horizon | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 2 16:00:40 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 16:00 |
| david-lyle | Hello everyone | 16:00 |
| jomara_ | howdy | 16:00 |
| hurgleburgler | Hello! | 16:00 |
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| jgravel__ | hi | 16:00 |
| tqtran | hello | 16:00 |
| woodm1979 | hello | 16:00 |
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| lcheng | hello | 16:01 |
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| rdopieralski | hi | 16:01 |
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| david-lyle | The tag for Juno-3 happens on Sept 4, this Thursday | 16:02 |
| akrivoka | hello | 16:02 |
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| david-lyle | if things aren't approved and in the pipeline in the next <24 hours, they likely aren't making Juno | 16:02 |
| tmazur | hi o/ | 16:02 |
| david-lyle | I do have a couple of FFEs in mind | 16:02 |
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| david-lyle | and I've moved those BPs to high to indicate that | 16:03 |
| lblanchard | hi all | 16:03 |
| gugl3 | hi | 16:03 |
| doug-fish | hello all | 16:03 |
| david-lyle | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/juno-3 | 16:04 |
| david-lyle | Blueprints: | 16:04 |
| david-lyle | 18 Needs Code Review, 20 Implemented | 16:04 |
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| david-lyle | that's +11 over a week ago | 16:04 |
| david-lyle | so that's great progress | 16:04 |
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| david-lyle | I think 2-3 can easily land today | 16:04 |
| david-lyle | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/context-selection | 16:05 |
| david-lyle | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/horizontal-form | 16:05 |
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| david-lyle | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/evacuate-host | 16:06 |
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| david-lyle | all these have been reviewed several times and look ready | 16:06 |
| david-lyle | are there any others that people think are ready that just need the reviews | 16:06 |
| david-lyle | ? | 16:06 |
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| david-lyle | mostly asking cores | 16:07 |
| david-lyle | as that will decide what makes it | 16:07 |
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| tqtran | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94450/ | 16:08 |
| rdopieralski | david-lyle: this is kinda new, but I think that we will need it anyways, and it's short: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/font-icons | 16:08 |
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| tqtran | This one has been sitting there for a while, would be nice if we could get some cores to take a look at it as well | 16:08 |
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| rdopieralski | (I know that it's not properly tagged) | 16:09 |
| david-lyle | rdopieralski: the review indicates a partial implementation | 16:09 |
| david-lyle | are we saying this is completed? | 16:09 |
| david-lyle | if so, I'll update | 16:09 |
| jomara_ | david-lyle: ive got code pending review for this bug now: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1322258 , not a bp, but should get attached to juno | 16:10 |
| david-lyle | I think further work can be in follow on bps | 16:10 |
| rdopieralski | david-lyle: it introduces the icons and makes them possible to be used, but it doesn't replace any yet | 16:10 |
| rdopieralski | david-lyle: it will be complete when we get rid of all old icons | 16:10 |
| david-lyle | jomara_: done | 16:10 |
| mxu | Hi David, can you pls approve this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83863/? review was done weeks ago and our neutronclient main patch was merged already. Thanks! | 16:10 |
| jomara_ | david-lyle: danke | 16:10 |
| tqtran | here is the approved bp for it https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/add-attributes-to-form-field-choices | 16:10 |
| david-lyle | mxu, as discussed in email, I cannot. I need python-neutronclient to be released first | 16:11 |
| rdopieralski | jomara_: merge failed :( | 16:11 |
| david-lyle | once it is released, then I can look to approve it | 16:12 |
| david-lyle | I'm not approving potentially deadcode into Horizon | 16:12 |
| mxu | Hi David, python-neutronclient release is not alligned with 9/4 deadline | 16:12 |
| david-lyle | mxu, additionally an openstack/requirements patch needs to move the min version of neutronclient to the newly released version | 16:13 |
| jomara_ | rdopieralski: WHAT i rebased 10seconds before review | 16:13 |
| jomara_ | rdopieralski: (ill look at it now, thanks) | 16:13 |
| david-lyle | otherwise I have a potentially broken Horizon | 16:13 |
| david-lyle | rdopieralski: I don't see any patches to replace the icons | 16:14 |
| david-lyle | so that seems like work for Kilo | 16:14 |
| david-lyle | did I miss one? | 16:14 |
| rdopieralski | david-lyle: yes | 16:14 |
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| rdopieralski | david-lyle: hmm, actually, if you don't merge any replacing of icons, we don't need the new icons to be available either, and the whole thing can go in in Kilo | 16:14 |
| rdopieralski | david-lyle: ok, I retract my proposal :) | 16:15 |
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| rhagarty | Hi David - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/cinder-qos-specs is ready to be reviewed | 16:15 |
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| david-lyle | rdopieralski: I don't mind if the bp was just for getting font-icons into horizon and we have another bp to use them | 16:16 |
| david-lyle | splitting hairs, I'm fine with either | 16:16 |
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| david-lyle | rhagarty: I'll try to get to that, there's a lot of good work there | 16:18 |
| rdopieralski | david-lyle: ok, I will split it | 16:18 |
| david-lyle | rdopieralski: works for me, thanks | 16:18 |
| gary-smith_ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/cinder-volume-transfer could also use some review love | 16:18 |
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| tqtran | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/reveal-icon-for-password-field have also been sitting there for a while, and could use some love | 16:19 |
| david-lyle | gary-smith_: acknowledged | 16:19 |
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| david-lyle | so for the cinder folks, of volume transfers and QOS, which is the higher want? | 16:20 |
| rhagarty | QOS! | 16:20 |
| gary-smith_ | sophie's choice, eh? | 16:20 |
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| david-lyle | trying to be realistic about the time left | 16:20 |
| gary-smith_ | probably QOS | 16:20 |
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| david-lyle | tqtran: that is completed, the follow on patch should be treated as a bug | 16:21 |
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| david-lyle | ok, so there's 4-5 BPs to review and see if we can get in the pipeline before tomorrow | 16:22 |
| david-lyle | I'll start bumping the rest to Kilp | 16:22 |
| david-lyle | *kilo | 16:22 |
| david-lyle | The agenda for today can be seen here: | 16:23 |
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| david-lyle | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon | 16:23 |
| david-lyle | #topic Making calls to APIs on every request (rdopieralski) | 16:23 |
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| david-lyle | -Checking which panels to display | 16:25 |
| david-lyle | -Mocking it properly | 16:25 |
| david-lyle | rdopieralski: is this regarding the mailing list thread? | 16:25 |
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| david-lyle | seems rdopieralski has gone missing | 16:27 |
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| david-lyle | let's come back to it when he returns, because I'm not entirely sure the context | 16:28 |
| rdopieralski | david-lyle: yes | 16:28 |
| rdopieralski | sorry | 16:28 |
| rdopieralski | so the problem that was described in the mailing list thread | 16:28 |
| david-lyle | just a dramatic pause | 16:28 |
| rdopieralski | actually came back in a different patch | 16:28 |
| rdopieralski | by amotoki, who couldn't come | 16:29 |
| rdopieralski | the thing is, many panels need to check whether they should be displayed or not in an external API | 16:29 |
| rdopieralski | that makes the API call be executed on every page rendering | 16:29 |
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| rdopieralski | apart from being inefficient, it's also very hard to mock | 16:30 |
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| rdopieralski | and it actually broke all tests in tuskar-ui | 16:30 |
| rdopieralski | for instance | 16:30 |
| david-lyle | I'm wondering if we could cache the api call results by session id rather than request? | 16:30 |
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| david-lyle | but that doesn't fix the testing problems | 16:30 |
| rdopieralski | yes, that was our thinking with amotoki | 16:30 |
| rdopieralski | and then mock that caching system in testcase's setup | 16:30 |
| rdopieralski | the caching should probably be at the level of list of panels, since a lot of panels might need that | 16:31 |
| rdopieralski | (and dashboards, of course) | 16:31 |
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| rdopieralski | still, the first request for a given user can potentially take a lot of time | 16:32 |
| david-lyle | rdopieralski: not sure I'm following that last part, rather than the API call you want to cache the accessible nav elements? | 16:32 |
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| rdopieralski | david-lyle: yes, basically I want to remember what menu to display | 16:33 |
| rdopieralski | david-lyle: then in tests, mock that and make all of them always displayed | 16:33 |
| david-lyle | if I rescope my token, that info needs to be refreshed | 16:33 |
| rdopieralski | cache invalidation | 16:34 |
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| david-lyle | but that's an implementation detail | 16:34 |
| david-lyle | yeah, so maybe the cache keys are session_id and project_id | 16:34 |
| david-lyle | this sounds reasonable to me | 16:34 |
| rdopieralski | I will write a blueprint | 16:35 |
| david-lyle | if we want it in Juno, it should be a High defect | 16:35 |
| rdopieralski | I wonder if there is anything similar to that, that we could stumble upon in the near future, though | 16:35 |
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| rdopieralski | like the list of visible projects? | 16:36 |
| david-lyle | right now that list is only cached per request | 16:37 |
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| rdopieralski | Basiclaly anything in the "static" part of the horizon ui is a potential candidate | 16:37 |
| david-lyle | it would be a good candidate, but we can live without that until Kilo | 16:38 |
| david-lyle | rdopieralski: agreed, but there will be several invalidation triggers | 16:38 |
| david-lyle | that will need to be worked through | 16:38 |
| rdopieralski | ok, so a bug for this now | 16:38 |
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| rdopieralski | and maybe a blueprint for a more general stuff in kilo | 16:38 |
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| david-lyle | rdopieralski: sounds good | 16:39 |
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| david-lyle | #topic Open Discussion | 16:39 |
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| rdopieralski | I would like to ask everyone to please also review the patches for all the xstatic-packages that we have | 16:39 |
| rdopieralski | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:%255Estackforge/xstatic.*,n,z | 16:40 |
| rdopieralski | right now those repos are behind what is actually on pypi | 16:40 |
| david-lyle | rdopieralski: thanks, overlooked those | 16:40 |
| rdopieralski | (since at the time they were packaged, there were no stackforge repos yet) | 16:40 |
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| rdopieralski | there is some mess in there, but I hope we can keep it ordered from now on | 16:41 |
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| asahlin | I updated / added Horizon's JavaScript best practices. If I could get some eyes and comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117595/ that would be appreciated. I also added the information to the wiki at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Horizon/Javascript | 16:42 |
| tqtran | asahlin: thanks for putting it together! | 16:43 |
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| david-lyle | rdopieralski: to be clear, accepting the updates will make them the default version used in virtualenvs and devstack, however we still need to maintain backward compatibility in Horizon for the oldest version supported in openstack/requirements, this can get confusing quickly | 16:43 |
| david-lyle | rdopieralski: not so much directed at you as a reply | 16:44 |
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| rdopieralski | david-lyle: it's not exactly like that -- I didn't get all the automation to work in those repositories, so far I have been publishing them to pypi myself (but the openstackci user is set as owner) | 16:44 |
| david-lyle | thanks asahlin, I'll take a look soon | 16:45 |
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| rdopieralski | david-lyle: so they are not used until there is an actual (manual) release, and later I hope to make the releases automatic with tagging | 16:45 |
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| david-lyle | rdopieralski: ok, that's good to know :) | 16:45 |
| david-lyle | but the same issue applies manual or automated | 16:45 |
| rdopieralski | david-lyle: of course, for any non-backwards-compatible changes, we have to update global-requirements and requirements.txt normally | 16:46 |
| rdopieralski | david-lyle: just as if those were external projects | 16:46 |
| david-lyle | rdopieralski: just trying to raise awareness of this fact | 16:46 |
| rdopieralski | I hope to get some help setting all the automation in there properly in the coming weeks. | 16:47 |
| david-lyle | I'm sure once j-3 is out there will be more time for that | 16:48 |
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| david-lyle | anything else? | 16:51 |
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| david-lyle | Thanks everyone. Please get review the remaining list of prioritized bps. We've gotten a lot of great functionality into Horizon in Juno. | 16:52 |
| david-lyle | #endmeeting | 16:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 2 16:52:37 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2014/horizon.2014-09-02-16.00.html | 16:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2014/horizon.2014-09-02-16.00.txt | 16:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2014/horizon.2014-09-02-16.00.log.html | 16:52 |
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| pballand | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 2 17:01:14 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is pballand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: CongressTeamMeeting)" | 17:01 | |
| thinrichs1 | Hi all | 17:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 17:01 |
| pballand | hello all | 17:01 |
| harrisonkelly | hey | 17:01 |
| pballand | Lots of stuff happening last week | 17:02 |
| pballand | we hit our alpha milestone | 17:02 |
| pballand | thinrichs1: you mind giving an update of that? | 17:02 |
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| thinrichs1 | pballand: sure. | 17:02 |
| arosen | hi! | 17:03 |
| thinrichs1 | The alpha is ready for everyone to test. | 17:03 |
| thinrichs1 | The README has install instructions for both devstack and standalone. | 17:03 |
| thinrichs1 | You can write policy over Nova and Neutron. | 17:03 |
| thinrichs1 | And then monitor that policy. | 17:03 |
| thinrichs1 | The docs are pretty good. | 17:04 |
| thinrichs1 | There's a tutorial and a troubleshooting guide as well. | 17:04 |
| thinrichs1 | README contains info about how to view the docs (we're using RST, which you can compile to HTML). | 17:04 |
| thinrichs1 | File bugs as you find them, if you would. | 17:04 |
| thinrichs1 | We'll be sending an announcement to the ML later today. | 17:05 |
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| thinrichs1 | I think the upshot of this is that everyone can now do an end-to-end trace through the (working) code. | 17:05 |
| sarob | morning | 17:05 |
| thinrichs1 | I think that's about it for the alpha. | 17:06 |
| pballand | thanks to all who helped on the alpha | 17:06 |
| pballand | thanks thinrichs1 | 17:06 |
| pballand | to echo thinrichs1, if anyone has not yet tried the alpha, please do so | 17:06 |
| pballand | harrisonkelly: any updates on what you’ve been working on? | 17:07 |
| harrisonkelly | yes | 17:08 |
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| harrisonkelly | Derick suggested that I do the eventlet switch a different way, so I made minor changes | 17:08 |
| harrisonkelly | but that introduced that weird error from run_tests.sh that I told you about before, the missing inbox | 17:08 |
| harrisonkelly | the fix for that was to add a start() method to the deepsix class, but I cannot do that because of how Derick and me rewrote the deepsix class | 17:09 |
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| harrisonkelly | I’ve been off from work for a few days, so I haven’t had a lot of time to look into why thats happening yet | 17:09 |
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| pballand | would it make sense to push the change you have as an incremental change in the right diretion (away from threads)? | 17:10 |
| harrisonkelly | the one that I have waiting for review now works, so I was waiting to see if I should push it or wait until it works because I changed a lot of files | 17:10 |
| pballand | what patch are you referring to? | 17:11 |
| harrisonkelly | one sec | 17:11 |
| harrisonkelly | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116308/ | 17:11 |
| harrisonkelly | that patch works (it ran run_tests.sh and tox -epy27 without errors) | 17:12 |
| pballand | if you don’t want that pushed, you had better mark it as such | 17:12 |
| pballand | (place a -1 on the workflow) | 17:12 |
| pballand | that patch seems like a reasonable step in the right direction to me | 17:12 |
| harrisonkelly | Should I do that? Or let it be merged (if it gets a check for the review) and then merge the new one in after so we can get rid of threading quicker | 17:13 |
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| pballand | it’s your code, what do you think? | 17:14 |
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| harrisonkelly | I think the patch I linked is step 1 to a two step process. Step 1 removes threading and uses eventlets, step 2 adds more power to the eventlets and according to Derick, adds more power to the eventlets | 17:15 |
| pballand | in that case, letting the patch go in makes sense to me | 17:15 |
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| pballand | (the faster you push incremental code, the lower the chance it will conflict with work others are doing) | 17:16 |
| harrisonkelly | Yeah, I’m going to try to figure out whats causing it | 17:16 |
| harrisonkelly | I think its because I’m automatically starting the eventlet when you create the object | 17:16 |
| harrisonkelly | which is because you spawn the eventlet to create it, but if I had a start() method, it doesn’t start it until you explicitly say so | 17:17 |
| pballand | harrisonkelly: ok - so the exiting code in review works, and you’ve got a couple kinks to work out in your next patch, right? | 17:18 |
| harrisonkelly | correct | 17:18 |
| pballand | harrisonkelly: sounds good | 17:18 |
| pballand | anyone else have code updates to discuss before we move on? | 17:19 |
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| pballand | sarob: would you mind giving an update on the policy summit? | 17:20 |
| arosen | I've been working on the congressclient hopefully I can get that out by the end of the week. | 17:21 |
| arosen | That's all from me though. (I know i've been moving slow on the client) :/ | 17:21 |
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| pballand | arosen: that will be great, thanks for the update | 17:22 |
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| arosen | also I have this patch here which changes the default port number: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118207/ We might want to merge this before we announce the alpha | 17:22 |
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| arosen | but not super important either way probably. | 17:23 |
| pballand | arosen: I like the port # change :) | 17:24 |
| pballand | we already tagged the alpha, but it may be nice to get it in before most people pull (assuming they pull from master) | 17:24 |
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| pballand | hi rajdeep | 17:25 |
| rajdeep | hi pballand | 17:25 |
| pballand | rajdeep: we were just going through updates - do you have any updates to report? | 17:26 |
| rajdeep | ok -- this week i worked on fixing the test cases | 17:27 |
| rajdeep | for CollectionHandler webservice | 17:27 |
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| rajdeep | thats it from side | 17:29 |
| pballand | arosen: pushed a workaround this morning for a bug that broke the gate | 17:29 |
| pballand | https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1364515 | 17:30 |
| pballand | rajdeep: this looks like something you would be familiar with - would you be able to take a look? | 17:30 |
| rajdeep | i remember that - perhaps replace the FakeClient with local Mocks | 17:31 |
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| thinrichs1 | rajdeep: I have a few changes in review that do some cleanup of the Nova/Neutron clients. | 17:32 |
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| thinrichs1 | It would be good if you could make your changes on top of those. | 17:32 |
| pballand | rajdeep: replacing with local Mocks makes sense to me | 17:32 |
| arosen | rajdeep: yea I think local mocks is what you want to use. Or copy the fakes used in novaclient to congress. | 17:32 |
| thinrichs1 | Here's the last one: | 17:32 |
| thinrichs1 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118400/ | 17:32 |
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| pballand | ok - I want to remind people that the policy summit is coming up | 17:36 |
| pballand | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-policy-summit | 17:36 |
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| pballand | we’ll be working on the schedule this week | 17:36 |
| pballand | if you have a particular topic to discuss, please update the etherpad | 17:37 |
| sarob | im back online when ready for me | 17:37 |
| pballand | sarob: was hoping you could comment on the policy summit | 17:38 |
| pballand | (or any other updates) | 17:38 |
| sarob | yup | 17:38 |
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| sarob | so mikal will be asking a local to step in representing nova | 17:39 |
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| sarob | and writing up what nova policy looks like for him | 17:39 |
| sarob | im going to get the gbp and heat guys to dump a bit into the etherpad as well this week | 17:40 |
| sarob | we have about 60 people signed up right now | 17:40 |
| sarob | almost 20 remotes | 17:40 |
| pballand | should be good | 17:41 |
| sarob | id ask anyone that has some interest in the use case discussion to add some thoughts to the etherpad as well | 17:41 |
| sarob | thats it | 17:42 |
| pballand | #topic Open Discussion | 17:42 |
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| pballand | thanks sarob | 17:42 |
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| pballand | that’s all I had for this week | 17:43 |
| harrisonkelly | pballand: I’m not going to be able to make it to the meetings anymore because I have a class that falls right over this time block | 17:43 |
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| harrisonkelly | I can email you a status update every week, or let you know what I’ve been doing on the Congress channel if you’re on when I am | 17:43 |
| pballand | harrisonkelly: that’s too bad - we hope you can still be involved | 17:44 |
| pballand | harrisonkelly: you can absolutely keep in touch through the #congress channel and openstack-dev mailing lists | 17:44 |
| harrisonkelly | I can still help, just not make the meetings | 17:44 |
| pballand | harrisonkelly: good to hear - hope it’s a good class ;-) | 17:44 |
| harrisonkelly | it’s GUI programming I, its a senior project class so I’m hoping its a good one | 17:45 |
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| pballand | harrisonkelly: sounds like fun :-) | 17:45 |
| sarob | so about working on new data sources | 17:45 |
| pballand | sarob: thanks for the reminder | 17:46 |
| pballand | we are hoping to get people to start working on more data source plugins | 17:47 |
| pballand | as part of that, thinrichs1 posted patches cleaning up the existing implementations | 17:47 |
| pballand | we would like to recommend that everyone involved with the project writes a datasource driver | 17:48 |
| pballand | doing so will help the project greatly, and also give each developer a good feel for how congress works | 17:49 |
| arosen | I agree, i look forward to writing a datasource driver that integrates with something outside of openstack | 17:49 |
| * pballand needs to write a datasource driver as well :) | 17:49 | |
| rajdeep | perhaps we could list the drivers we would like to write | 17:49 |
| rajdeep | then people could volunteer | 17:50 |
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| pballand | rajdeep: we could do that, but field is really wide open at this point | 17:50 |
| pballand | any core OpenStack project is up for grabs | 17:50 |
| rajdeep | ok i could write 1-2 | 17:51 |
| rajdeep | starting with keystone | 17:51 |
| pballand | and there are numerous outside projects that would also make sense | 17:51 |
| pballand | rajdeep: that would be great | 17:51 |
| rajdeep | kudva wanted to write one for ceilometer | 17:51 |
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| pballand | if anyone is having trouble coming up with a component that needs a datasource driver, we can help them find something | 17:52 |
| pballand | kudva and skn were both working on drivers, but they aren’t here this week | 17:52 |
| rajdeep | there are other components we could write for - nsx, vsphere , open daylight outside openstack | 17:52 |
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| rajdeep | also cinder driver is up for grabs | 17:53 |
| pballand | rajdeep: yes, the list goes on and on (Active Directory, antivirus, storage arrays, HVAC systems, ...) | 17:53 |
| sarob | aws, gce, euca will be good ones once we knock out the major openstack projects | 17:54 |
| rajdeep | i remember companies like tibco having a driver factory team at infosys - 100+ people | 17:54 |
| rajdeep | with 200+ dirvers | 17:55 |
| thinrichs1 | The goal here is partly to build drivers but it's mainly to get people comfortable with Congress. | 17:55 |
| thinrichs1 | There may be a better way to integrate with many data sources. | 17:55 |
| thinrichs1 | For example, lots of the translation code is boilerplate | 17:56 |
| thinrichs1 | and if we had a description of the return value for an API call, we could in principle generate that code automatically. | 17:56 |
| thinrichs1 | Or have a generic translation algorithm. | 17:56 |
| thinrichs1 | But even if we had that, it's still valuable to roll one by hand. | 17:56 |
| thinrichs1 | From an educational perspective. | 17:57 |
| rajdeep | ok, driver part is easier i would like to learn more about plexxi part | 17:57 |
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| sarob | so we want to have some mentoring around this | 17:57 |
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| sarob | teamwork on what good data source driver behavior looks like | 17:58 |
| thinrichs1 | sarob: I just made an editing pass through the drivers we have so others have good examples to work from. | 17:58 |
| thinrichs1 | Seems like a good first step. | 17:58 |
| pballand | time check: one minute left | 17:58 |
| sarob | thinrichs1: agreed | 17:59 |
| pballand | that’s it for this week, thanks everyone for coming | 17:59 |
| thinrichs1 | Thanks all! | 17:59 |
| pballand | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
| sarob | thx | 17:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 2 17:59:55 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2014/congressteammeeting.2014-09-02-17.01.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2014/congressteammeeting.2014-09-02-17.01.txt | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2014/congressteammeeting.2014-09-02-17.01.log.html | 18:00 |
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