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| carl_baldwin | Hi all | 14:59 |
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| yamamoto | hi | 14:59 |
| SridarK | Hi | 15:00 |
| badveli | hello all | 15:00 |
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| chuckC | hi | 15:00 |
| pcm_ | hi | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: mrsmith: viveknarasimhan armax safchain seizadi jvoss pcm nextone92 devvesa ping | 15:00 |
| armax_ | hi | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 17 15:00:57 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | Juno-2 is in one week. | 15:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | spec approval deadline (SAD) is in three days. | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | What an appropriate acronym. | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | The mid-cycle sprint last week went well. I enjoyed seeing some of you there. | 15:02 |
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| pcm_ | +1 | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-msp-sprint | 15:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | We made good progress on DVR among other topics. | 15:03 |
| carl_baldwin | Any other announcements? | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic neutron-ovs-dvr | 15:04 |
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| carl_baldwin | One patch merged yesterday. I think we could be close on the L2 patch today. | 15:04 |
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| carl_baldwin | Swami: hi | 15:05 |
| Swami | hi carl | 15:05 |
| carl_baldwin | Your patch merged! | 15:05 |
| Swami | Great!, Thanks to Carl and Armando | 15:06 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/DVR/HowTo | 15:06 |
| carl_baldwin | With the API patch in, we can work on getting the DB Models patch and the L3 Agent patch in. | 15:06 |
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| Swami | Is sridharK here | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | I fell asleep before getting through the latest version of the DB patch but I plan to finish up my review this morning. | 15:07 |
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| viveknarasimhan | thanks Carl for getting merged the central patch for DVR merged | 15:07 |
| SridarK | Swami: yes | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: SridarK: you have the floor. | 15:08 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: I pushed another revision for the L2 models DB patch | 15:08 |
| SridarK | carl_baldwin: thx | 15:08 |
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| armax | carl_baldwin: I addressed Anna’s comments | 15:08 |
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| viveknarasimhan | i would like to mention something | 15:08 |
| SridarK | we are working with the DVR team to address FWaaS - DVR integration issues | 15:08 |
| SridarK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106225/ | 15:08 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: I noticed it this morning. Thanks. We should be able to review that quickly. | 15:09 |
| SridarK | armax: thanks for the review | 15:09 |
| viveknarasimhan | Since we merged Swami's patch which takes l3_dvr_db, we need upgrade the scheduler patch | 15:09 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: yeah…my bad I was careful in making sure to address the new needs of db migrations, but not so careful! | 15:09 |
| viveknarasimhan | to take the new mixin available there | 15:09 |
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| viveknarasimhan | we found this out during our Unit Test upgrade for DVR scheduler | 15:09 |
| armax | viveknarasimhan: can you be more detailed on the review itself? | 15:10 |
| viveknarasimhan | ok, will add review lines there | 15:10 |
| armax | viveknarasimhan: I am still waking up, so I am not sure I follow right now ;) | 15:10 |
| viveknarasimhan | for dvr scheduler patch | 15:10 |
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| armax | viveknarasimhan: please put a comment, a -1 if you need to and we’ll look into that | 15:10 |
| viveknarasimhan | ok | 15:11 |
| carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: We’ve got a couple days before Murali’s patch his the top of the review-for-merge list. But, the sooner the feedback gets in the better. | 15:11 |
| viveknarasimhan | doing so now | 15:11 |
| Swami | vivek: Are you saying that since we already merged the L3 extension patch , the scheduler patch should no longer have any dependency | 15:11 |
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| viveknarasimhan | no, am saying | 15:12 |
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| viveknarasimhan | scheduler should start using the new mixin in l3_dvr_db | 15:12 |
| viveknarasimhan | it is using the old NAT mixin | 15:12 |
| viveknarasimhan | from l3_db | 15:12 |
| carl_baldwin | SridarK: I have your spec at the top of my review list for today. | 15:12 |
| Swami | vivek: got it | 15:12 |
| SridarK | carl_baldwin: thx | 15:12 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: Just give you heads up on the FWaaS | 15:13 |
| Swami | As per our discussion the current blue print will target the North South and not the East-West. | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: understood, thanks. | 15:13 |
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| Swami | To be backward compatible, the FWaaS will only apply the FWaaS rules to the non-distributed routers. | 15:14 |
| SridarK | carl_baldwin: Swami have called that out this is targeting N - S in the spec | 15:14 |
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| carl_baldwin | Swami: So, no FWaaS for distributed routers at all? | 15:14 |
| armax | SridarK: I believe it would be useful to really make it clear in the spec title or commit message | 15:14 |
| SridarK | armax: i have addressed ur comments on that in the spec also | 15:15 |
| viveknarasimhan | FwaaS for distributed routers but only for | 15:15 |
| viveknarasimhan | N-S traffic | 15:15 |
| SridarK | viveknarasimhan: +1 | 15:15 |
| viveknarasimhan | for the first phase carl | 15:15 |
| armax | SridarK: thanks for that, but the commit or spec title is unchanged | 15:15 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: sorry if I have conveyed the message properly, FWaaS will be there for distributed routers, but only for the north-south traffic. | 15:15 |
| SridarK | armax: ok will change that | 15:15 |
| armax | later on we’re gonna file other blueprints to address the other parts | 15:15 |
| SridarK | armax: +1 | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | I’m a bit confused now by “FWaaS will only apply the FWaaS rules to the non-distributed routers” but I’ll read the blueprint and take the discussion there. | 15:16 |
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| carl_baldwin | Swami: I think I understand. | 15:16 |
| SridarK | carl_baldwin: we only want to address the N - S cases and make sure we don't break E - W normal forwarding | 15:16 |
| armax | SridarK: thanks, it’s only a suggestion but I think it’ll make the scope of the bp a lot more clear | 15:17 |
| SridarK | *address N - S FWaaS; no E - W FWaaS | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | SridarK: That sounds like what I’m thinking now. So, I think I understand. | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: Good suggestion. Making the scope of a bp clear is often the most important part. | 15:17 |
| SridarK | armax: i agree too so there is no confusion on what is being addressed | 15:17 |
| SridarK | armax: removed the Phase 2 part from the BP based on ur comments | 15:18 |
| armax | SridarK: you may want to keep the same topic for all the fw/dvr bp's | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | So, we’re good to go on this bp? We will work hard to get this reviewed by the 20th. | 15:18 |
| armax | SridarK: but I’d be definitely more descriptive in the commit messafge | 15:18 |
| SridarK | armax: will change that | 15:18 |
| armax | SridarK: so that’s easy to group them together and see what the overall effort is | 15:19 |
| carl_baldwin | I think we should spend a few minutes discussing DVR testing. | 15:19 |
| SridarK | carl_baldwin: we have discussed with the DVR team and are on the same page with them on what needs to be done | 15:19 |
| SridarK | armax: yes definitely agree | 15:19 |
| carl_baldwin | SridarK: great. | 15:19 |
| SridarK | carl_baldwin: thanks for some "airtime" here | 15:20 |
| SridarK | carl_baldwin: badveli will also be working on this | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | SridarK: yw, thanks for your work. | 15:20 |
| Rajeev_ | SridarK: we like how you are approaching the design for DVR | 15:20 |
| SridarK | from the FWaaS sub team | 15:20 |
| badveli | yes on the implementation | 15:20 |
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| carl_baldwin | On the testing front. We’ve got a few things going on, I think. | 15:21 |
| SridarK | carl_baldwin: Rajeev_ thx for to the DVR sub team and FWaaS subteam | 15:21 |
| viveknarasimhan | carl i am working on enhancing the Unit tests for scheduler | 15:21 |
| viveknarasimhan | and ml2 pluin (l2-pop side) | 15:21 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: I revised the tempest API tests | 15:22 |
| carl_baldwin | First, UT coverage has been called out in a few of the patches. I spoke with all of the cores and Kyle at the sprint. We’re okay merging the patches with the current coverage but we’ll need to follow up. | 15:22 |
| viveknarasimhan | great... thanks Carl | 15:22 |
| viveknarasimhan | but we will be shipping UT stuff as we improve coverge for review to you and armax | 15:22 |
| armax | viveknarasimhan: great, sooner the better | 15:23 |
| carl_baldwin | We’ll need the new coverage in order to finally say that DVR has been fully implemented. Yes, the sooner the better. | 15:24 |
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| carl_baldwin | 2) Tempest. armax: it sounds like you’ve got this covered? | 15:25 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: on the testing front, is there any option of introducing the multinode setup in the upstream or are we still targeting a single node. | 15:25 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: the Tempest API tests are now better designed and the review passed the existing test suite (w/o dvr) | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: Great. | 15:25 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: checking if they pass now with DVR now that swami’s patch merged | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: There is an infra bp to add multi-node testing. It will take a little time so, for now, a single node is all we have. | 15:26 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: we also have a number of patches to add the CI jenkins job to address the single node tests | 15:26 |
| armax | but no love from the infra team yet | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106495/ | 15:27 |
| carl_baldwin | ^ The infra spec for multi-node. | 15:27 |
| armax | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106902/ | 15:27 |
| armax | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106901/ | 15:28 |
| armax | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103180/ | 15:28 |
| armax | the last tree links should give us the ability to run an experimental job at will that has DVR enabled | 15:28 |
| armax | before we can really do that though we’d need the entire dvr feature in the tree | 15:29 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: Thanks for the links. Right, we need at least the basic set of 7 patches merged, right? 1 down 6 to go. | 15:30 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: yes | 15:30 |
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| carl_baldwin | Hopefully we can get the infra team’s attention before then. I think they might be meeting in Germany this week. They may be heads down. | 15:31 |
| armax | ok | 15:32 |
| Swami | good to know. | 15:32 |
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| carl_baldwin | I have one more thing for DVR. Is there a plan to enable GRE tunneling? I’m told that would be easy. What about VLAN? | 15:33 |
| viveknarasimhan | GRE tunneling can be enabled | 15:33 |
| viveknarasimhan | did a basic investigation and it needs change on the L2 OVS agent for most part | 15:33 |
| carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: Can you start a placeholder patch for that? | 15:34 |
| viveknarasimhan | yes, will do carl | 15:34 |
| Swami | carl: we have a couple of items in the backlog and we need to prioritize | 15:34 |
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| Swami | Migration, Services support, support VLAN, GRE tunnelling etc., | 15:35 |
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| Swami | I have a list I can pass it on to you offline. | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: great. Let me know how that backlog gets prioritized. | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: It will be great to have that list. | 15:36 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: sure | 15:36 |
| carl_baldwin | Anything else for DVR? | 15:36 |
| Swami | Do you want it right now. | 15:36 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: If you have it, yes. | 15:36 |
| Swami | hold on a minute. | 15:36 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: sure just email it. | 15:36 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic l3-high-availability | 15:37 |
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| Swami | 1.Migration a.Legacy to Distributed Router Migration i.With no Gateway and FloatingIP ii.With Gateway only iii.With no FloatingIP and iv.With FloatingIP v.With FloatingIP and Gateway vi.Allow removing a distributed router from an agent binding even if it has FloatingIP. b.Migration CLI Commands i.Use existing CLI commands ii.Or Create new CLI commands to address the SNAT migration 2.Services a.LBaaS Sup | 15:37 |
| armax | safchain: udere? | 15:37 |
| carl_baldwin | safchain: armax: How are we doing here? I saw that the bp merged. | 15:37 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: thanks. | 15:37 |
| armax | we’re at risk here | 15:37 |
| Swami | Sorry it is not well formated. | 15:37 |
| Swami | I will add one by one | 15:37 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: no worries. | 15:38 |
| armax | I don’t see Assaf | 15:38 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: safchain said he didn’t have cycles to work on it then he came back work on it a little and then disappeared again | 15:38 |
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| safchain | armax, carl, hi sorry to be late | 15:38 |
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| carl_baldwin | safchain: hi | 15:39 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: to make sure we make consistent progress here we’d need someone who steadily work on this feature | 15:39 |
| carl_baldwin | I was thinking about HA + DVR the other day. The thing that came to my mind was that HA would need to be aware of the SNAT port that DVR allocates. | 15:39 |
| safchain | armax, we are working on it with assaf | 15:40 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: I will send an email with the complete list. | 15:40 |
| carl_baldwin | safchain: How do you feel about hitting juno-3? | 15:41 |
| armax | safchain: no much progress the last couple of days, is there anything we can do? | 15:41 |
| armax | to help? | 15:41 |
| safchain | carl_baldwin, armax Assaf reviewed all the patches, and we split the tasks in two part, API/scheduler - agent | 15:42 |
| safchain | armax, yes any help is welcome | 15:42 |
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| safchain | armax, please tell me if you want to work on a specific part, patch | 15:43 |
| armax | safchain: well we don’t want to step on each other toes | 15:43 |
| armax | safchain: we cannot work on the same patches at the same time | 15:43 |
| safchain | armax, sure | 15:43 |
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| armax | safchain: where do you feel you need help? | 15:44 |
| safchain | armax, I think the current task split with assaf is ok, and I wil submit a new patch-set for API tomorrow | 15:44 |
| armax | ok | 15:45 |
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| carl_baldwin | We’re short on time. Anything else for HA? | 15:46 |
| safchain | armax, If you have any time to work on the scheduler | 15:46 |
| safchain | carl_baldwin, ok for me | 15:46 |
| armax | safchain: I can have a look | 15:46 |
| carl_baldwin | safchain: armax: I’ll let you coordinate offline. | 15:46 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic l3-svcs-vendor-* | 15:46 |
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| carl_baldwin | pcm_: Some progress this week. Anything to discuss? | 15:47 |
| pcm_ | Sure :) | 15:47 |
| pcm_ | Reference implementation is in. | 15:47 |
| pcm_ | Could use review of Cisco implementation (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107473/1) | 15:47 |
| pcm_ | Since the Cisco one was dependent on the reference one, do I need to rebase the commit to master now> | 15:48 |
| pcm_ | ? | 15:48 |
| carl_baldwin | pcm_: My view of rebasing is that it should be done whenever Jenkins fails to merge it. | 15:48 |
| carl_baldwin | Others may not share that view (yet). | 15:48 |
| carl_baldwin | ;) | 15:48 |
| carl_baldwin | pcm_: Anything else? | 15:48 |
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| pcm_ | No. Later (next week), I'll probably want to see if there are other services that need this validation too | 15:49 |
| carl_baldwin | pcm_: Thanks. | 15:50 |
| pcm_ | Can work with vendors on applying this method to their service. | 15:50 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic bgp-dynamic-routing | 15:50 |
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| pcm_ | thanks for the reviews! | 15:50 |
| carl_baldwin | I don’t see devvesa or nextone92 on. | 15:50 |
| carl_baldwin | I do know that there has been some progress on this topic. | 15:50 |
| carl_baldwin | The bp merged. | 15:50 |
| yamamoto | i have a short update on ryu bgp | 15:51 |
| yamamoto | outfilter patch has been merged to ryu master | 15:51 |
| carl_baldwin | yamahata__: Great. You have the floor. | 15:51 |
| carl_baldwin | good to know. Do you know if devvesa has been working with your code yet? | 15:52 |
| yamamoto | i think we completed features requested by devvesa | 15:52 |
| yamamoto | more requests and questions are welcome | 15:52 |
| carl_baldwin | I know that he has been working on implementation. We discussed some model simplifications yesterday. I’m not sure how much he has worked with Ryu code yet. | 15:52 |
| yamamoto | i don't know about devvesa's progress | 15:53 |
| carl_baldwin | I’ll ping him later today for progress. | 15:53 |
| carl_baldwin | Anything more to add? | 15:53 |
| yamamoto | nothing from me | 15:53 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic neutron-ipam | 15:54 |
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| carl_baldwin | SAD to say that IPAM won’t make the cut for Juno. | 15:55 |
| carl_baldwin | This doesn’t mean that work has to stop by those who are interested. I’d like to get an early start on this for K | 15:56 |
| carl_baldwin | Just means that review time will be diverted to other things. | 15:56 |
| carl_baldwin | I don’t see any of the ipam guys around. So, that is all for now. | 15:57 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Open Discussion | 15:57 |
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| carl_baldwin | Thanks everyone for the hard work that has been done. I’ve seen good progress being made. | 15:59 |
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| pcm_ | bye | 15:59 |
| yamamoto | thank you | 15:59 |
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| SridarK | Thanks DVR folks for all the help on the FWaaS - DVR issues and special thanks to Swami for helping us understand DVR and for those fantastic pictures (although i can't convince him to do it in ASCII) | 15:59 |
| carl_baldwin | That’s all I have. Bye. | 15:59 |
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| SridarK | bye | 15:59 |
| carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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| armax | bte | 15:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 17 15:59:51 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-07-17-15.00.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-07-17-15.00.txt | 15:59 |
| armax | bye | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-07-17-15.00.log.html | 15:59 |
| Swami | bye | 15:59 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hi neutron group policy team! | 17:59 |
| kevinbenton | o/ | 17:59 |
| banix | hallloooo | 17:59 |
| hemanthravi | hi | 18:00 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ok lets get started | 18:00 |
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| LouisF | hi | 18:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 17 18:00:39 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| rkukura | hi | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron_Group_Policy | 18:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #announcements Juno specification submission deadline: July 10th, specification approval deadline: july 20th | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so the SAD is 20th and not 17th as i previously noted | 18:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i erred to the conservative side, so it gives us a couple of more days | 18:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i know we have the vendor driver blueprints, and kevinbenton’s API intercept spec | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything other spec that is pending review? | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we will get to the vendor drivers later in the agenda (if we have time) | 18:02 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | okay | 18:02 |
| banix | does it look like ant of the vendor bps will get reviewed/approved? | 18:02 |
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| rkukura | I plan to spend much of the next few days reviewing specs, including these | 18:03 |
| banix | any | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thanks | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: i plan to review as well | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: at my end i will be able to review before SAD | 18:03 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: you feel comfortable about that as well? | 18:03 |
| banix | great. i have a question regarding our bp but will wait for tits time slot | 18:04 |
| rkukura | no, but I’ll review as much as I can as soon as I can | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: thanks | 18:04 |
| rkukura | my goal is to make a pass thru everything important on GP and ML2 by mid-day tomorrow | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think the vendor driver specs are all pretty similar in that they proxy the group policy calls over to their respective backends | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so i guess its pretty much like you review one, and the rest are all along similar lines | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | folks correct me if i am wrong, or if any of the vendors are planning to do something different | 18:06 |
| banix | now that you ask :) | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if its a longer discussion we can take it up in the relevant part of the agenda | 18:06 |
| banix | we wwant to have a new attribute for claasifiers and are not sure if that would the approval complicated or not | 18:06 |
| banix | i can wait; your call SumitNaiksatam | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: thanks | 18:07 |
| hemanthravi | SumitNaiksatam: no, it's as you described for One Convergence GBP driver | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: ok good | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Gerrit Reviews | 18:08 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron_Group_Policy/Patches | 18:08 |
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| kevinbenton | SumitNaiksatam: can you comment in response to Eugene’s question on the intercept patch about why inter-plugin calls need to be intercepted? | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | kevinbenton: yes i will | 18:09 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | kevinbenton: sorry about the delay | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | just posting the above link for the benefit of anyone who is not familiar with the series and the stacking | 18:10 |
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| kevinbenton | SumitNaiksatam: no problem. If anyone else is interested in the discussion around the intercept, the patch is here. #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105695/ | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | kevinbenton: thanks | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | kevinbenton: i do have that as a separate agenda item | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | kevinbenton: your spec that is | 18:11 |
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| kevinbenton | SumitNaiksatam: whoops :-) | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any questions/comments on the series/stacking? | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | kevinbenton: np | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | kevinbenton: thanks for putting it out there, if we run out of time, we know what to skip :-) | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok moving on | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Resource Model/API/DB/Plugin Update | 18:12 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | no major update here | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura pointed out today morning that gp-db-1 and gp-plg-1 were out of sync with the master and needed rebase | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so those have been rebased | 18:12 |
| rkukura | +1 | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i have not added the db migration script yet since i did not want to introduces churn while rkukura was working on it | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but i had to rebase anyway today | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any questions on gp-api/db/plg/-1/2/3? | 18:13 |
| rkukura | hopefully next update after this to the gp-*-1 and gpm-*-1 series will have the DB migrations and be ready to merge | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | for the naming conventions on the patches please refer to: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron_Group_Policy/Patches | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes, db migration should be straightforward | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | also banix is working on some of the advanced UTs for the drivers | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: thanks for the update yesterday | 18:15 |
| banix | yes when appropriate i like to ask a couple of questions wrt UTs | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: go ahead | 18:15 |
| banix | looking at the comment rkukura left here: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96393/9/neutron/tests/unit/services/grouppolicy/test_grouppolicy_plugin.py | 18:16 |
| banix | In the tests I have added I use the dummy driver and patch it for each test accordingly | 18:16 |
| banix | Does that make sense or I am missing something here? | 18:17 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ^^^ | 18:17 |
| rkukura | banix: makes sense to me | 18:17 |
| banix | ok thanks; will share the code soon | 18:18 |
| rkukura | banix: The ml2 tests probably could do something like that, but there is also some logic in the driver for the tests I think. Its been a while since I looked | 18:18 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | banix: thanks! | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok moving on | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Mapping Model/Driver Update | 18:19 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: over to you | 18:19 |
| rkukura | OK, I’ve been working to make the resource_mapping driver production-ready (relatively) so we can remove the WIP from gpm-rmd-1. | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: whats the ETA on that? | 18:20 |
| rkukura | It now handles all the cleanup for implicitly created resources, and does not cleanup explicitly created resources | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: nice | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thats using a db table? | 18:20 |
| rkukura | I have a bit more work to do on this to handle updates (rejecting things that don’t make sense for this driver), and validating a few things for explicitly-created resources. | 18:21 |
| rkukura | I hope to push the non-WIP update later today. | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: sweet | 18:21 |
| rkukura | I’ve already pushed updates to gpm-api-1, gpm-db-1, and gpm-plugin-1 rebasing on Sumit’s latest updates. | 18:21 |
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| rkukura | I’ve got a couple minor review comments to address in gpm-ipd-1 and will push that update shortly. | 18:22 |
| rkukura | then get back to finishing gpm-rmd-1 | 18:22 |
| rkukura | After that, I’ll shift my focus to spec reviews until Sunday | 18:23 |
| rkukura | That’s it for me | 18:23 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thanks for the update | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any questions for rkukura? | 18:23 |
| LouisF | SumitNaiksatam: i have question on EPG provided/consumed contract lists | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so the implicitly created resources are recorded in the db? | 18:24 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: The resource_mapping driver uses DB tables to keep track of owned resources, just like the implicit_policy driver does. | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ok | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: please go ahead | 18:24 |
| LouisF | in the scenario where a EPG has provided contracts 1-10 and the client now wants to send an update to remove contracts 9, 10 and add 11 and 12, should the client send an update that includes contracts 1-8, 11, 12? | 18:24 |
| rkukura | LouisF: I think we need to define add_contract and remove_contract operations for this, similate to the router’s add_interface and remove_interface operations. | 18:25 |
| LouisF | in orher words an update must always include the itended list of contracts | 18:25 |
| LouisF | intended | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF rkukura: yes thats the plan | 18:25 |
| rkukura | Updating the entire list will work, but has race conditions of multiple clients try to update the same thing at the same time. | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: i believe the way its currently structured you ahve to send the entire list | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes agreed | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: so we will add those extra API operations | 18:26 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: add/remove, we do something similar for the router interfaces and firewall rules | 18:26 |
| rkukura | Speaking of these add/remove opetations, if anyone knows how to list all the interfaces of a router via the client API, please let me know. | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: its not in the patch right now though | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: does that answer your question? | 18:27 |
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| mlavalle | hi | 18:27 |
| LouisF | what if an EPG potentially have 100s of contracts? | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: thanks for joining | 18:28 |
| mlavalle | nice to be here | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: you will have both options | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: of bulk update and well as single updates | 18:28 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: query ports based on device_id = router_id | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: however its questionable whether EPGs will have 100s of contracts | 18:28 |
| LouisF | ok when will add/remove contract be added? | 18:29 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: I was hoping not to have to resort to that, but didn’t see a better way | 18:29 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: i was planning to add that as a separate follow up patch | 18:29 |
| rkukura | may need to do this in the UTs to verify subnets get added to routers | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: i prefer to keep this patch series with the basic CRUD operations to faciliatate reviews | 18:30 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: yes, i remember coming across in the code that unfortunately the only associate between ports and routers is held in that device_id field of the port | 18:30 |
| LouisF | SumitNaiksatam: ok | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok moving on (since mlavalle is here) | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Functional/System testing | 18:31 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: thanks again for joining at a short notice | 18:31 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: so the team here wants to be able to introduce some functional/system tests to be able to test the group policy API and workflow | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: what do you recommend is the best path forward? | 18:32 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i was informed that the LBaaS folks have a patch for the new API? | 18:32 |
| mlavalle | yeah I developed that for them | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: oh great, so we are approaching the right person! | 18:33 |
| mlavalle | if I understand coirrectly, we have a rest api here, correct? | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: yes | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: it starts with this patch #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95900 | 18:33 |
| mlavalle | so we can definitely go ahead and develop a set of tempest tests, both at the api l;evel and at the scenario level | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: ok good | 18:33 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: i will jump on this right away, any pointers? | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: we can take it offline if this is a longer discussion | 18:34 |
| mlavalle | moving ahead, we can folow the following approaches | 18:34 |
| mlavalle | 1) I csn develop the tests for you | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: sure | 18:34 |
| mlavalle | 2) I can train someone in your team to develop the tests | 18:35 |
| mlavalle | or a combination of both | 18:35 |
| mlavalle | whicever you fill more comfortable | 18:35 |
| rkukura | mlavalle: One concern is that the juno version of GPM is likely to be considered “beta” without guaranteeing backward API compatability with the K release, but that tempest isn’t branced. Is this an issue? | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: in the short term we will have to use (2) | 18:35 |
| mlavalle | in any case, I will provide support | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: thanks! lets first address rkukura’s question and then we can work out logistics | 18:36 |
| mlavalle | rkukura: that's not a problem, we can evolve the tests as the api evolve | 18:36 |
| rkukura | mlavalle: I recall marun proposing developing tempest-like tests in the neutron or some other repo to deal with this. | 18:36 |
| mlavalle | rkukura: yes, that's also a valid approach. however, since we will have a rest api, at some point in tume we will need tempest tests | 18:37 |
| rkukura | mlavalle: So if these tests get merged to tempest during juno and then the API changes in K, how do we deal with it? | 18:37 |
| rkukura | We don’t want to break running tempest against juno. | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: rkukura’s question ^^^? | 18:39 |
| mlavalle | rkukura: yeah….. I see your point…. maybe we should hold off developing the tests in tempest for the time being | 18:40 |
| mlavalle | let me bring this up with the tempest team and i'll get back to you next week | 18:40 |
| mlavalle | how's that? | 18:40 |
| rkukura | I’m not arguing against putting our tests in tempest from the start, as long as that isn’t preventing us from making API changes that aren’t backwards compatible during K | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: so how is this being addressed for the new lbaas api/resources? | 18:41 |
| rkukura | Should we start with a WIP patch for tempest tests in the mean time? | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: i am guessing the new api is beta over there are well? | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: exactly | 18:41 |
| mlavalle | rkukura: yeah, I understand…. in the case of LBaaS we are working with WIP patches | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i was thinking the same, at least the WIP will allow people to test | 18:41 |
| mlavalle | we can do the same here | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: doesnt have to be merged | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle rkukura: ok great, lets have the WIP patch | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | everyone agree? | 18:42 |
| rkukura | +1 | 18:42 |
| mlavalle | +1 | 18:42 |
| banix | +1 | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok great, so mlavalle i will sync with you, so that we have something at the earliest | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | our requirement is that something be ready by next week so that people can test it right away | 18:43 |
| mlavalle | moving forward with the tests, I think I can help extending the tempest rest clients and then have someone in your team develop the tests themselves | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we have a pending -2 and part of it is ostensibly for this | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: nice | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: since we are running short on time here, i will sync with you and we can report progress in the meeting next week? | 18:43 |
| mlavalle | cool. I'll wait for your ping | 18:44 |
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| mlavalle | :-) | 18:44 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Can we target the tempest REST client at just the initial 4 resources in gp-*-1 to get this going quickly? | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: thanks much! | 18:44 |
| banix | thanks mlavalle | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: precisely, just those first four | 18:44 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i was thinking for now we will do only what we need to for the first series | 18:45 |
| rkukura | +1 | 18:45 |
| mandeep | +1 | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok moving on | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Security Groups mapping update | 18:46 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we needed more time for this | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: sorry about that! | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: but please go ahead | 18:46 |
| s3wong | in the interest of time, I will only give a four lines update: | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i know regxboi had commented | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: please | 18:46 |
| s3wong | thanks for LouisF and regXboi for their comments on doc, I responded to them and will update doc accordingly | 18:46 |
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| s3wong | I have an action item on checking multiple SG per port: turns out it is one of the basic operations according to OpenStack doc: | 18:47 |
| LouisF | s3wong: can you clarify what you mean about the FW? | 18:48 |
| s3wong | http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/securitygroup_workflow.html | 18:48 |
| s3wong | LouisF: Firewall as in FWaaS instance | 18:48 |
| LouisF | yes | 18:48 |
| s3wong | and the last line of update: I pulled a branch off of rkukura 's latest RM gerrit and will start coding some basic stuff | 18:49 |
| s3wong | the goal is to have at least some starting point prior to next week's hackathon | 18:49 |
| s3wong | four lines of update :-) | 18:49 |
| banix | that was 7 actually | 18:50 |
| rkukura | s3wong: I’ll be in the bay area Monday-Thursday, and may be able to get together with you to work on this prior to the hack-a-thon if that helps | 18:50 |
| s3wong | banix: well, you have to ignore LouisF 's question, that wasn't expected :-) | 18:50 |
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| s3wong | rkukura: certainly. we can set this up offline later. That would be great | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: is everything in the document now? | 18:51 |
| rkukura | s3wong: OK, probably late Monday or sometime Wednesday is best for me | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: i did not read the latest update | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: just want to know before you start coding | 18:51 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: the content + my response to comments | 18:52 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: I will update the doc later also | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: okay i will check back, apologies for not getting back to you earlier | 18:52 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: it's alright - can't get mad at cores this week :-) | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: does it address regxboi’s comments? | 18:52 |
| LouisF | s3wong: i read the update | 18:53 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: yes | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: okay sweet | 18:53 |
| s3wong | LouisF: any further questions? (if so, please further comment on doc) | 18:53 |
| LouisF | s3wong: will do | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok can we move to the vendor drivers? i know banix wanted to discuss | 18:53 |
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| s3wong | we would like to give 7 minutes to vendor drivers, I suppose | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok moving on | 18:53 |
| banix | yes | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Vendor Drivers | 18:53 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we have six vendor drivers’ specs in review | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | check #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron_Group_Policy#July_17th.2C_10th.2C_2014 for the list | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: go ahead | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we might be able to go a little over in this meeting (if we are not kicked out) | 18:54 |
| banix | as mentioned earlier we want to have a new attribte for classifiers; am wondering if adding that to the spec would cause any complications | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: okay, yeah we had this disucssion last week with regxboi | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: at this point i dont foresee any issues | 18:55 |
| s3wong | banix: is that the mcast address match? | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: that said, the leaner the spec the easier to review and approve | 18:55 |
| banix | so this will modify the model to add a new attribute | 18:55 |
| banix | s3wong: yes | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: so add it only if you absolutely need it | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: you dont need to modify the model, you extend it | 18:56 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam: ok; ye, thatis what i menat | 18:56 |
| banix | meant | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: yes sure :-) | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: what do you think? | 18:56 |
| banix | ok thanks | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | since you will be reviewing as well | 18:57 |
| rkukura | not sure we want to go there, but I’ve been helping out on a spec for adding an ExtensionDriver API to ML2. We could do something similar. | 18:57 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: the idea is that for the ibm driver, banix will be extending the classifier resource to be able to add a field for multicast protocol | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: banix needs this in Juno, i believe | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so i dont think any dependency will work for him | 18:58 |
| mandeep | rkukura: The extension mech you are proposing is probably post Juno, correct? | 18:58 |
| rms_13 | I would suggest to keep the framework here generic enough such that other vendor drivers can extend in future if rquire | 18:58 |
| rkukura | No, its needed for a spec already approved for Juno | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rms_13: it is | 18:59 |
| rms_13 | cool | 18:59 |
| marun | sorry I missed the mention, but was there any decision on merging tests to tempest for the new api? | 18:59 |
| mandeep | rkukura: In Juno for ML2, I was asking about the timeframe for a similar mech for GBP post Juno | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | marun: we will be posting a WIP patch | 19:00 |
| marun | SumitNaiksatam: sounds good. I don't think experimental features should have tests in tempest (and we can have similar coverage in-tree anyway), but we can always rework the WIP to be in-tree instead of in tempest before merge. | 19:01 |
| rkukura | marun: Whether merging the tempest patch would lock-down the API post-juno is an open question that mlavalle is going to look into | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | marun: exactly | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | marun: this will help whoever wants to test this | 19:01 |
| marun | rkukura: the discussions that I've had on the tempest side have indicated that api testing in tempest is for preventing backwards incompatible changes | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | marun: but does not have to be merged | 19:01 |
| marun | rkukura: i.e. stable APIs | 19:01 |
| marun | SumitNaiksatam: understood, definitely a good step. | 19:02 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | marun: ok thanks | 19:02 |
| marun | rkukura: so if we expect an API to not be stable, merging to tempest takes valuable qa cycles unnecessarily. | 19:02 |
| marun | mlavalle: ^^ | 19:02 |
| marun | (it's also more expensive for us) | 19:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so we are over time, and we are here until we are kicked out | 19:03 |
| rkukura | marun: That’s why we are asking these questions, but it seems a WIP tempest patch will let us get started quickest. | 19:03 |
| marun | rkukura: completely agree that it is a good starting point | 19:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #agreed Group Policy team will introduce WIP tempest patch to aid in end-to-end testing of the stacked patches | 19:04 |
| marun | rkukura: the retargetable spec was just merged and the code hasn't yet, so api testing in-tree is not ready yet. | 19:04 |
| mandeep | banix: So back on the issue of extending resources for your plugin, my recommendation is that you should to do that. We can have a more generic mechanism in future (modeled on ML2, depending on that experience), but you should not depend on that for the Juno plugin. | 19:04 |
| rkukura | marun: One consideration would be that if we know this won’t go into tempest anytime soon, maybe we should use python-neutronclient instead of the tempest REST client. | 19:05 |
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| marun | rkukura: but I do expect to have the ability to start merging in-tree API tests in juno-3 | 19:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mandeep: thanks for directing back to the topic in discussion here | 19:05 |
| marun | rkukura: no, the tempest rest client is the way to go | 19:05 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: see mandeep’s suggestion ^^^ , does that work for you? | 19:05 |
| marun | rkukura: I'm working with dkranz to refactor the tempest client so that we can implement it against the plugin api | 19:05 |
| rkukura | mandeep: agreed regarding the extension dricer | 19:05 |
| rkukura | driver | 19:05 |
| banix | mandeep: ok | 19:05 |
| marun | rkukura: that would allow tests in the tempest tree written for the rest client to be trivially portable to our plugin api | 19:06 |
| marun | rkukura: that won't be possible with the native client | 19:06 |
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| rkukura | marun: That is useful for API tests, but our initial focus is really on end-to-end system tests with nova, tempest, … | 19:06 |
| marun | rkukura: | 19:06 |
| marun | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106916/ | 19:06 |
| rkukura | s/tempest/keystone/ | 19:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok banix mandeep rkukura so we are agreeing that banix you will use resource extension for now in your driver, and later resort to a more generic mechanism for drivers as and when that evolves | 19:06 |
| marun | rkukura: there's nothing stopping that from being maintained in our tree either | 19:07 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: If he really wants an extension, he might need the kind of thing we are planning for ML2 | 19:07 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam: sounds good | 19:07 |
| mandeep | rkukura: Yes, post Juno. | 19:07 |
| marun | rkukura: but I'm less clear on how scenario tests for experimental features should be handled by tempest | 19:08 |
| rkukura | It basically calls the extension driver to validate extended attributes, persistent them, and put them in resource dictionaries for Context objects and responses. | 19:08 |
| marun | rkukura: in any case, there has been discussion on the list about deprecating the use of the native python clients in scenario testing because they make debugging so much harder | 19:08 |
| mlavalle | marun: I will bring up the issue of scenario tests for experimental features during next week's tempest meeting | 19:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i think given the short time frame for Juno, i would not want to block a vendor driver for a framework which is evolving in another part of the code base | 19:09 |
| marun | rkukura, mlavalle: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/039879.html | 19:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | just a note - we are currently discussing the “vendor driver” agenda item in our topic | 19:09 |
| marun | mlavalle: appreciated | 19:09 |
| rkukura | marun: I’m not really concerned about which client is used for these tests, but just want to make sure we have a short term plan for end-to-end system tests were we really validate correct connectivity between VMs. | 19:10 |
| marun | rkukura: there's nothing stopping us doing that for VMs in functional tests. | 19:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the tempest topic was discussed earlier, and we can circle back once we are done discussing the current agenda item | 19:10 |
| marun | rkukura: VMs -> fake VMs | 19:10 |
| marun | rkukura: I know I keep talking about this, I haven't had specific use cases to implement and I was supposed to get back to you about this a couple of weeks ago. | 19:10 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura my earlier point - i think given the short time frame for Juno, i would not want to block a vendor driver for a framework which is evolving in another part of the code base | 19:11 |
| rkukura | marun: Certainly need running neutron-server, l2-agent, l3-agent, and dhcp-agent at least. | 19:11 |
| marun | rkukura: I'd be up for proving this idea if I can get a detailed-enough description of test planning | 19:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: do you agree? | 19:11 |
| marun | rkukura: sounds entirely like overkill for a feature that rides on top of the existing infrastructure | 19:12 |
| marun | rkukura: it would be more valuable to write functional tests for those pieces without group policy and then add group policy to the mix | 19:12 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I think we’d have to incorporate the “extension” as part of the GP API. | 19:12 |
| marun | rkukura: imho | 19:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i am not sure i understand that | 19:13 |
| rkukura | marun: I’m not disagreeing with any of that, but we have a very short term requirement to have some sort of end-to-end system testing. Just trying to find the quickest path to that. | 19:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: the suggestion was to have a separate extension module which will extend the policy classifier resources | 19:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *resource | 19:13 |
| mandeep | rkukura: We are running out of time, so let us discuss this right after the meeting. At this stage, IMO it is too late to propose a chnage to GBP API for Juno. | 19:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mandeep: i dont think a change to the GBP API is required | 19:14 |
| marun | rkukura: fair enoujgh | 19:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok i think we are having two separate meetings here | 19:14 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: There would need to be code somewhere that handles these extended attributes. The extension driver is what we are proposing to do this in ML2. | 19:14 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: that can be in the vendor’s driver, right? | 19:15 |
| banix | keeping what s3wong mentioned about this week in mind. | 19:15 |
| rkukura | Lets not forget that this is an iterative process, and details in the specs will often get revisited/changed during development. | 19:15 |
| mandeep | rkukura: I believe that the right model is to implement it in ML2 in this cycle, and use that learning to extend GBP plugin in the next cycle | 19:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: sure | 19:16 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: The drivers do not have a mechanism to handle the persistence of new attributes. | 19:16 |
| rkukura | mandeep: I agree, but I’m not sure there is a short term solution for banix for juno. | 19:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i think what you are saying is that the resource extension cannot be supported if its not added to the GP plugin | 19:16 |
| mandeep | rkukura: OK, I understand your point now | 19:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok lets take this offline and see what is the best way to approach it in the short term | 19:17 |
| banix | rkukura: yes i understand your point and gree | 19:17 |
| mandeep | I was under the impression that the drivers have a mechanism to handle this | 19:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic open discussion | 19:17 |
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| rkukura | That’s what we’ve concluded on ML2, which whose mechanism drivers have the same model. Initially some changes to the mechanism driver API were proposed, but even that did not allow extended attribute values to be returned in REST responses. | 19:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we skipped a couple of items | 19:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything we wanted to discuss urgently? | 19:18 |
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| banix | extending the model will require changing the plugin which is itself under eview hence the complications | 19:18 |
| banix | ok thanks for the commnts rkukura mandeep and SumitNaiksatam | 19:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | kevinbenton earlier pointed out the API intercept spec patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105695/ | 19:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: yes | 19:18 |
| rkukura | banix: If the extension driver gets into ML2 for juno, I’m confident copying it into GP would be trivial. | 19:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: there has to be some place to load the plugin | 19:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | * load the extension | 19:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok so we are 20 mins over | 19:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything else? | 19:19 |
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| banix | alternatively one could have a separate service plugin altogethr. right? | 19:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: yes | 19:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so just a reminder, we have the hackathon next week | 19:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so we will most likely not be doing this IRC meeting next week | 19:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hope to see you all these | 19:20 |
| banix | if possible google hangout will be good | 19:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *there | 19:20 |
| rkukura | banix: That would let you add new resources, but not extend GBP resources | 19:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: yes sure, we will plan something along those lines | 19:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura banix: lets take this offline and find a solution | 19:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks all, bye! | 19:21 |
| rkukura | bye | 19:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 19:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:21 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 17 19:21:21 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:21 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-07-17-18.00.html | 19:21 |
| banix | bye | 19:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-07-17-18.00.txt | 19:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-07-17-18.00.log.html | 19:21 |
| kevinbenton | bye | 19:21 |
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| banix | core resources now gets extended by extensions. right? network getting extended by router extension for example | 19:23 |
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