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carl_baldwin | hi all | 15:00 |
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yamamoto | hi | 15:00 |
carl_baldwin | Swami safchain seizadi jvoss pcm_ nextone92 devvesa: ping | 15:01 |
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devvesa | hi | 15:01 |
safchain | hi | 15:01 |
pcm_ | hi | 15:01 |
mrsmith | hello | 15:02 |
carl_baldwin | mrsmith: armax: vivek: ping (I don’t remember vivek’s nick) | 15:02 |
carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 3 15:02:18 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:02 |
carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
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carl_baldwin | The mid-cycle sprint is next week. I will probably not run this meeting but should be very active on IRC. | 15:02 |
carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam | 15:03 |
carl_baldwin | Juno-2 is just about 3 weeks away. | 15:03 |
carl_baldwin | Did everyone see the post about the bp submission deadline? | 15:03 |
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devvesa | i did | 15:04 |
carl_baldwin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/039138.html | 15:04 |
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carl_baldwin | I’ll turn some extra attention toward the BGP and IPAM blueprints today. | 15:04 |
carl_baldwin | The BPG blueprint is doing pretty well I think. At least I understand what will be done I think. | 15:05 |
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devvesa | thanks! | 15:05 |
carl_baldwin | The IPAM bp may need a little more fleshing out with detail from my perspective. | 15:05 |
seizadi | I got some comments last night and I will update today. | 15:06 |
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carl_baldwin | It has already been proposed, so it has until the 20th to get in to shape. | 15:06 |
carl_baldwin | seizadi: great. ping me when you update and I’ll read it more thoroughly today. | 15:06 |
carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: hi | 15:06 |
carl_baldwin | yisun: hi | 15:06 |
viveknarasimhan | hi carl | 15:06 |
carl_baldwin | #topic neutron-ovs-dvr | 15:07 |
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carl_baldwin | Great progress here so far this week. | 15:07 |
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carl_baldwin | I have had some success with my own two-node devstack deployment. I did a handful of hand fixes but then I was able to get a pingable floating ip. | 15:08 |
carl_baldwin | I’m very pleased to bring something that I have been able to get to work to the mid-cycle meeting. | 15:08 |
carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: armax: mrsmith: any progress updates? | 15:09 |
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viveknarasimhan | carl | 15:09 |
viveknarasimhan | i responded to few review comments | 15:09 |
viveknarasimhan | rest of time i spent on getting dvr work over OOO | 15:10 |
carl_baldwin | Great, I haven’t had a chance to look this morning. | 15:10 |
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mrsmith | I've replied to comments as well | 15:10 |
mrsmith | worked with armax on simplifying the agent cfg | 15:10 |
mrsmith | getting the 3 cfg options down to one "mode" option with three modes | 15:10 |
mrsmith | seems like a good change - to simplify | 15:11 |
carl_baldwin | Yes, armax mentioned that. I think it will be an intuitive improvement. | 15:11 |
mrsmith | I plan to push updates to l3-scheduler and l3-agent for the same | 15:11 |
mrsmith | today that is | 15:11 |
viveknarasimhan | also request specific trigger tha tled to the attribute exception on update_port_postcommit | 15:11 |
mrsmith | carl_baldwin: was there an open question on port host binding ? | 15:12 |
carl_baldwin | Great! We’ll need to coordinate a change to the howto wiki but I can probably do that when I push the update to my github branche. | 15:12 |
carl_baldwin | *branch | 15:12 |
carl_baldwin | mrsmith: You mean the schema problem? | 15:12 |
yamamoto | do you have a plan to update l2 doc etc? | 15:12 |
mrsmith | carl_baldwin: yes | 15:12 |
carl_baldwin | yamahata: to which l2 doc are you referring? | 15:13 |
carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: I think I put all that I know about the exception in the comments. We can talk after if you need. | 15:13 |
yamamoto | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1depasJSnGZPOnRLxEC_PYsVLcGVFXZLqP52RFTe21BE/edit?pli=1#heading=h.5w7clq272tji | 15:13 |
viveknarasimhan | yes yamamoto | 15:13 |
viveknarasimhan | i could not update that due to permission issue | 15:13 |
viveknarasimhan | i will put an errata document and attach it to blueprint and ping you | 15:13 |
viveknarasimhan | i will update with new rules that we did for good performace improvement on the data path | 15:14 |
yamamoto | can't you just copy and update? | 15:14 |
viveknarasimhan | that is what i did | 15:14 |
viveknarasimhan | copied it , updating the rules | 15:14 |
viveknarasimhan | i will post you by tomorrow | 15:14 |
yamamoto | thank you | 15:14 |
carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: Is it appropriate to update the spec in neutron-specs? I would prefer the updates go there if possible. | 15:15 |
viveknarasimhan | ok i will update it in neutron-specs | 15:15 |
yamamoto | i prefer to put the updated doc near the code | 15:16 |
viveknarasimhan | but first i put modified word doc for yamamoto | 15:16 |
yamamoto | eg. comment in code or README or something like that | 15:16 |
carl_baldwin | It will have to go through review but that should be much easier than the initial merge of the spec. | 15:16 |
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carl_baldwin | yamamoto: that may also be appropriate. I’ll let you guys decide. | 15:17 |
yamamoto | neutron-specs is fine for me. we can copy it into README etc later | 15:17 |
carl_baldwin | mrsmith: I am thinking of implementing the conversion from legacy router to distributed as a follow-on patch. Do you have any objection. | 15:17 |
carl_baldwin | ? | 15:17 |
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mrsmith | sounds good... thats what we were planning... follow on dev | 15:18 |
carl_baldwin | I was thinking I could have some time for it at the mid-cycle sprint next week. | 15:18 |
viveknarasimhan | mike as per our earlier discussion , are we allowing conversion both ways (legacy to dist and vice-versa) , or is it just one-way path for simplicity? | 15:18 |
carl_baldwin | mrsmith: Okay, I will plan to implement it. | 15:18 |
mrsmith | eventually we want to support both ways | 15:19 |
carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: I’m planning on doing only the one way initially. | 15:19 |
mrsmith | +1 | 15:19 |
carl_baldwin | But, will look at supporting the other way at a later time. | 15:19 |
mrsmith | piece by piece... ;) | 15:19 |
viveknarasimhan | ok | 15:19 |
mrsmith | carl_baldwin: do you think it will affect more than l3-agent? | 15:19 |
carl_baldwin | Yes, I do but I haven’t scoped out the whole thing yet. | 15:20 |
mrsmith | as in, l3-plugin and l3-sched may have impact? | 15:20 |
mrsmith | ok | 15:20 |
mrsmith | I assume it would affect those modules as well | 15:20 |
carl_baldwin | Yes. The scheduler and plugin will most likely need some work. | 15:20 |
viveknarasimhan | l3-plugin, cli, l3-sched, l3-agent all of them have impact | 15:20 |
mrsmith | :) | 15:20 |
yamamoto | are you talking about live-conversion? | 15:20 |
viveknarasimhan | l2-agent may operate as is | 15:20 |
carl_baldwin | The cli is minimal. Actually, the cli pretty much works already. | 15:20 |
carl_baldwin | yamamoto: Yes. Though there may be a hiccup in the routing. | 15:21 |
viveknarasimhan | yes, conversion when router is running, packets may drop minimally | 15:21 |
carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: Yes, it should be minimal. | 15:21 |
carl_baldwin | Anything else for DVR? | 15:22 |
carl_baldwin | #topic l3-high-availability | 15:23 |
mrsmith | no... | 15:23 |
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viveknarasimhan | nope.. | 15:23 |
carl_baldwin | safchain: I was going to add this back to the agenda since armax has taken an interest in driving it to completion. But, I don’t see armax around. | 15:23 |
safchain | Yes we plan to work on it with him and maybe Amuller | 15:24 |
carl_baldwin | I have an interest as well because I think it is long overdue. I’ll be a second core reviewer on it. | 15:24 |
safchain | I hope I will be able to get more bandwidth to work on it | 15:24 |
safchain | ok great | 15:24 |
yamamoto | i have some interest because ryu has vrrp impl. | 15:25 |
carl_baldwin | Great to see some interest and I hope to see it get through soon after DVR merges. | 15:25 |
carl_baldwin | yamamoto: great. The bp needs to merge first. Let’s get that in by the 20th deadline. | 15:25 |
carl_baldwin | Anything else? | 15:26 |
yamamoto | nothing from me | 15:26 |
safchain | yamahata, so the bp was about using keepalived as a first impl but open to another one/driver | 15:26 |
safchain | ok for me | 15:26 |
yamamoto | safchain: yes i know | 15:26 |
safchain | yamahata, I have to sync with you to understand the ryu impl | 15:27 |
carl_baldwin | cool, let’s have discussion on the bp review. armax and I will divert attention to that to get it merged. | 15:27 |
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carl_baldwin | #topic pluggable-ext-net | 15:27 |
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carl_baldwin | Nothing much to say here except that I will be starting this work on top of the DVR code. Need the bp to merge by the 20th as well. | 15:28 |
carl_baldwin | #topic l3-svcs-vendor-* | 15:29 |
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carl_baldwin | pcm_: hi | 15:29 |
viveknarasimhan | carl | 15:29 |
viveknarasimhan | one more thing related to DVR | 15:29 |
carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: sure. | 15:30 |
viveknarasimhan | will speak about it at end of session so not to interrupt current topic | 15:30 |
carl_baldwin | pcm_: Anything new here? Looks like you’re still working through an oslo issue? | 15:30 |
pcm_ | hi. Yes need review of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102351/ | 15:30 |
pcm_ | Waiting for oslo new release to be avail. | 15:31 |
pcm_ | but have tested locally with new oslo version. | 15:31 |
carl_baldwin | pcm_: Right, I actually have some draft comments I never finished. | 15:31 |
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pcm_ | thanks! | 15:31 |
carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102351/. | 15:31 |
carl_baldwin | Need anything on the oslo issue? | 15:31 |
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carl_baldwin | pcm_: ^ | 15:32 |
pcm_ | not sure. Wondering what they (infra) need to do to make the prerelease available. | 15:32 |
carl_baldwin | Has the bug been fixed in the code? Just needs release? | 15:33 |
carl_baldwin | I see. | 15:33 |
carl_baldwin | It may just be a matter of time to release and then update Neutron requirements. | 15:34 |
pcm_ | yes | 15:34 |
carl_baldwin | Have you validated the fix locally using the new release? | 15:34 |
carl_baldwin | pcm_: ^ | 15:35 |
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pcm_ | yes (sorry in two meetings) | 15:35 |
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yamamoto | <- wondering what "^" means | 15:36 |
carl_baldwin | yamamoto: It is pointing to the previous message. I do that when I realize that I forgot to include his nick to grab his attention. | 15:36 |
yamamoto | ah i see. it's an arrow. thanks | 15:37 |
carl_baldwin | #topic neutron-ovs-dvr | 15:37 |
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carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: You had one more thing? | 15:37 |
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viveknarasimhan | yeah carl | 15:38 |
viveknarasimhan | there is a racing issue between l2-pop tunnel-bridge access and DVR tunnel-bridge access | 15:38 |
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viveknarasimhan | there was a review posted to address this concurrency issue | 15:38 |
carl_baldwin | Do you have a link? | 15:38 |
viveknarasimhan | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77578/ | 15:39 |
viveknarasimhan | this changeset needs to be honed back for DVR | 15:39 |
viveknarasimhan | as bulk rules addition for l2-pop doesn't work well with bulk rules addition by DVR at the same time on the tun-br | 15:39 |
yamamoto | modfying flows in rpc handlers is prone to race | 15:39 |
viveknarasimhan | well, existing l2-pop logic does it that way | 15:40 |
carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: “honed back?” | 15:40 |
viveknarasimhan | we need to pick up that review and drive it to completion ('honed back' ) | 15:40 |
yamamoto | viveknarasimhan: yes i know. modular l2 agent folks are talking about having a dedicated thread | 15:40 |
viveknarasimhan | that would be best | 15:41 |
viveknarasimhan | right now it is a subprocess, but feedign data to that subprocess is not guaranteed | 15:41 |
viveknarasimhan | some flows lost, when both write to tun-br | 15:41 |
yamamoto | having a lock can be a short term fix? | 15:42 |
carl_baldwin | I’ll make a note of this in the subteam page and I’ll work it in to my github branch as well. | 15:42 |
carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We can discuss the details in the review. | 15:42 |
viveknarasimhan | i can help work with you after internal commits get over | 15:42 |
carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will work https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77578/ in to the current DVR work. | 15:42 |
carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: Great. | 15:43 |
carl_baldwin | Anything else? | 15:43 |
viveknarasimhan | thanks carl. that is it. | 15:43 |
carl_baldwin | #topic bgp-dynamic-routing | 15:43 |
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carl_baldwin | devvesa: hi | 15:43 |
devvesa | hi | 15:43 |
carl_baldwin | I’ll take one more look at PS9 but I think I’m close to +2. We’ll need to find another core to give it a fresh set of eyes. | 15:44 |
devvesa | i'll ping Nachi again | 15:45 |
yamamoto | any update on poc code? | 15:45 |
carl_baldwin | devvesa: Yes, Nachi. | 15:45 |
devvesa | yamamoto: not this week | 15:45 |
devvesa | yamamoto: i've seen the new Ryu release, I'll give a try next week | 15:45 |
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yamamoto | we (ryu team) plan to work on filtering support. | 15:46 |
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yamamoto | do you have an idea when you will need the functionality? | 15:47 |
devvesa | with the next-hop and password features i can be busy for a while with the development | 15:47 |
carl_baldwin | devvesa: How do you feel about hitting juno-3 with a complete implementation? | 15:47 |
yamamoto | ok. let me know if you want us hurry. | 15:47 |
devvesa | carl_baldwin: this was my initial idea, to be able to finish before juno-3 | 15:48 |
carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Juno_Release_Schedule | 15:48 |
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devvesa | actually, I will have vacations just after juno-3... so I must finish then | 15:49 |
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carl_baldwin | devvesa: sounds good. | 15:49 |
devvesa | i will upload WIP patches anyway. so you can follow the evolution | 15:49 |
carl_baldwin | yamamoto: devvesa: You can work backwards from there to decide when that feature will be needed to complete development. | 15:50 |
carl_baldwin | devvesa: That will be great. | 15:50 |
carl_baldwin | devvesa: yamamoto: Anything else? | 15:50 |
yamamoto | nothing from me | 15:50 |
devvesa | nothing from me neither | 15:50 |
carl_baldwin | Thanks. | 15:50 |
carl_baldwin | #topic neutron-ipam | 15:51 |
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carl_baldwin | seizadi: hi | 15:51 |
seizadi | We have had comments and I have been turning them around, got some more last night that I will update the bps. | 15:51 |
seizadi | Still on track for Juno-2, now there is a hard deadline for bp, I will make sure I turn around the latest comments today. | 15:51 |
seizadi | We are also working on Thrid Party CI so that we can submit our External IPAM solution in addition to Default IPAM for Juno-2. | 15:51 |
seizadi | We heard from Atlanta Summit from Community that IPv6 was desirable for IPAM, been looking at the IPv6 support to test for IPAM. Find IPv6 support not driven like other projects as a focus effort. The wiki page is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/IPv6#Blueprints | 15:51 |
seizadi | We will test what is in Juno, but have concern about having complete IPv6 functionality in Juno. | 15:52 |
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carl_baldwin | seizadi: Your concern is noted. Please design with IPv6 in mind. Current IPv6 functionality should still work with the implementation. However, I realize it is a moving target at the moment. | 15:53 |
carl_baldwin | Don’t be so concerned about it that you cannot make forward progress on the rest. | 15:53 |
carl_baldwin | I will look over the reviews with an eye on IPv6. | 15:54 |
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seizadi | OK, we are tracking the patches some are not merged yet | 15:54 |
carl_baldwin | seizadi: What is the link to your bp? | 15:55 |
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seizadi | It is on L3 Meeting page | 15:55 |
carl_baldwin | I’m having trouble hitting launchpad again for some reason. | 15:56 |
seizadi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97986/ | 15:56 |
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carl_baldwin | Am I the only one that gets a lot of DNS failures when trying to go to launchpad? | 15:56 |
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yamamoto | seizadi: you should fix the topic | 15:57 |
carl_baldwin | yamamoto: Thanks, I was about the suggest the same. | 15:57 |
seizadi | OK | 15:58 |
yamamoto | launchpad is working for me | 15:58 |
seizadi | Here is the other bp https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97967/ | 15:58 |
carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97967/ | 15:58 |
carl_baldwin | seizadi: :) | 15:59 |
chuckC | last minute or so | 15:59 |
carl_baldwin | seizadi: Be sure the topic is correct on this one as well. | 15:59 |
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seizadi | Ok | 15:59 |
carl_baldwin | git review sometimes mangles topics if you have the word blueprint in your commit message. | 15:59 |
carl_baldwin | chuckC: Thanks, did you have anything? | 16:00 |
chuckC | I posted the Link Aggregation spec https://review.openstack.org/103765. I think it's relevant for the L3 team because the main short-term issue is around DHCP. | 16:00 |
chuckC | The main issue is booting baremetal node from one of a set of interfaces and end up with the same ip address regardless of which | 16:00 |
yamamoto | i saw someone writing "|3lueprint" or such for poor gerrit | 16:00 |
carl_baldwin | chuckC: I’ll have a look. | 16:00 |
chuckC | carl_baldwin: thanks | 16:01 |
carl_baldwin | chuckC: I’ll have a look. | 16:01 |
carl_baldwin | Anything else? We’re out of time. | 16:01 |
yamamoto | nothing from me | 16:01 |
carl_baldwin | Great work all around. Thanks everyone! | 16:01 |
carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 3 16:01:55 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-07-03-15.02.html | 16:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-07-03-15.02.txt | 16:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-07-03-15.02.log.html | 16:02 |
viveknarasimhan | thanks carl. good day everyone | 16:02 |
yamamoto | thank you | 16:02 |
yamamoto | good night | 16:02 |
chuckC | bye | 16:02 |
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SumitNaiksatam | hi Team Group Policy! | 17:59 |
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prasadv | SumitNaiksatam: hello | 18:00 |
songole | Hello SumitNaiksatam | 18:00 |
SumitNaiksatam | prasadv songole: hello | 18:00 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura mandeep s3wong banix: there? | 18:00 |
rkukura | hi | 18:00 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: welcome back! | 18:00 |
banix | hi | 18:00 |
SumitNaiksatam | banix: hi | 18:00 |
SumitNaiksatam | ok lets get started | 18:00 |
SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 3 18:00:53 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:00 |
SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron_Group_Policy | 18:01 |
SumitNaiksatam | #info Juno specification submission deadline: July 10th, specification approval deadline: july 17th | 18:01 |
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banix | SumitNaiksatam: hi | 18:01 |
SumitNaiksatam | we need to revisit and check if we need to submit any more blueprints for the stuff we haven’t addressed yet (outside of what is in the group policy umbrella blueprint) | 18:02 |
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s3wong | hello | 18:02 |
SumitNaiksatam | banix: hi again :-) | 18:02 |
s3wong | Seems like meeting has started... | 18:02 |
SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: yeah welcome, just started, you were called out earlier :-P | 18:02 |
SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: AIs assigned! | 18:02 |
SumitNaiksatam | #topic Resource Model/API/DB/Plugin Update | 18:03 |
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SumitNaiksatam | So all patches have been posted now (later patches need a rebase) | 18:03 |
SumitNaiksatam | and have been using a patch name convention: GP-API/DB/PLG/1/2/3 | 18:04 |
rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Is any update expected to these at this point? | 18:04 |
SumitNaiksatam | * GP-API/DB/PLG-1/2/3 | 18:04 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i dont think there are any outstanding comments for GP-API/DB/PLG-1 | 18:05 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: well apart from the one you had for driver UTs, | 18:05 |
SumitNaiksatam | and i have not put the DB migration script yet | 18:05 |
SumitNaiksatam | but i dont think i will be doing these today | 18:05 |
rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I think Paul Michali put a -1 on the latest gp-api-1 regarding copy.copy() | 18:06 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ah i didnt see that | 18:06 |
SumitNaiksatam | copy.copy() was used per markmcclain’s comments | 18:06 |
rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: It would be good to know if this will force a quick update, or is not really an issue | 18:06 |
SumitNaiksatam | i will take a look as to what pcm’s comment is | 18:06 |
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rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Thanks | 18:07 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i dont understand the comment as much | 18:07 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: using copy() versus copy.copy() or copy.deepcopy() | 18:08 |
SumitNaiksatam | deepcopy() is required wherever there are nested args, so i am not sure why a shallow copy would be used there | 18:08 |
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rkukura | I think he is concerned that copy.copy() copies the dictionary, but does not copy the items in it | 18:08 |
SumitNaiksatam | i dont know the difference between copy() versus copy.copy() | 18:08 |
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rkukura | I think copy.copy() is fine if its a dict of string->string mappings | 18:09 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: copy.copy() does a shallow copy, right? | 18:09 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yeah | 18:09 |
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rkukura | But if its a dict of dicts, then copy.deepcopy() may be needed if the nested dicts should be copied. | 18:09 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so currently copy.copy() and copy.deepcopy() is used selectively whereever appropriate | 18:09 |
SumitNaiksatam | at least that was the intention | 18:10 |
SumitNaiksatam | ok i will go back and check | 18:10 |
rkukura | His comment is about a dict of dicts | 18:10 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so that needs a deepcopy(), and i believe thats what i have | 18:11 |
rkukura | line 79 is a copy.copy() | 18:11 |
rkukura | I’m not sure its really a problem. | 18:11 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay i will check after the meeting | 18:11 |
rkukura | Thanks | 18:11 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: expect another rev in that case | 18:12 |
SumitNaiksatam | per reviewer’s comment there is a change in base URI: /gp --> /grouppolicy | 18:12 |
SumitNaiksatam | any objections? | 18:12 |
SumitNaiksatam | its more typing if you are doing this manually | 18:12 |
SumitNaiksatam | and the convention in neutron earlier was to use acronyms like lbaas, fwaas, etc | 18:13 |
SumitNaiksatam | but i went with the suggestion to spell it ouy | 18:13 |
SumitNaiksatam | *out | 18:13 |
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SumitNaiksatam | attribute name change: default_subnet_prefix_length --> subnet_prefix_length | 18:13 |
rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Thanks! | 18:13 |
SumitNaiksatam | hopefully there are not more name changes | 18:14 |
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SumitNaiksatam | so we did a quick rev on the group policy spec to reflect all the name changes | 18:14 |
SumitNaiksatam | actually mestery did that (thanks!) | 18:14 |
banix | SumitNaiksatam: grouppolicy is good | 18:14 |
rkukura | I really did not want a config variable in the implicit_policy driver called default_default_subnet_prefix_length! | 18:14 |
SumitNaiksatam | however the above attribute name change is not reflected in that | 18:14 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ok | 18:14 |
SumitNaiksatam | banix: ok | 18:14 |
songole | SumitNaiksatam: how about CLI commands? Use gp_ or grouppolicy_ ? | 18:15 |
SumitNaiksatam | so in general (off-topic), has anyone pulled the neutron-spec repo recently? | 18:15 |
SumitNaiksatam | songole: thanks for bringing that up, lets take that up in CLI update | 18:15 |
rkukura | I don’t care about gp_ vs. grouppolicy_, but we need to nail it down ASAP | 18:15 |
songole | SumitNaiksatam: ok | 18:15 |
s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: I have - anything wrong? | 18:16 |
rkukura | I meant in the URIs | 18:16 |
SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: i dont seee the latest merges | 18:16 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: songole’s question was not on the URI | 18:16 |
SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: the latest commit i saw in that repo was june 25th | 18:16 |
rkukura | realized that | 18:16 |
SumitNaiksatam | #link https://github.com/openstack/neutron-specs | 18:17 |
SumitNaiksatam | but a bunch of patches have been “merged” since | 18:17 |
SumitNaiksatam | so i wanted to put one more rev for the GP-spec, but i couldnt make progree | 18:17 |
s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: hmm... OK, I saw the files, didn't check the date | 18:17 |
SumitNaiksatam | anyone have any idea? | 18:17 |
SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: see the latest commit | 18:17 |
s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: 8 days ago... | 18:18 |
SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: yeah | 18:18 |
SumitNaiksatam | and thats not right | 18:18 |
SumitNaiksatam | so i dont know, perhaps a question for the infra team, i did not get a chance to follow up | 18:19 |
SumitNaiksatam | anyone, whenever this gets sorted please expect another minor rev, with the attribute name change | 18:19 |
SumitNaiksatam | anything anyone else wanted to edit in the spec (any inconsistency?) please let me know, or if you want to post the update please go ahead, and include the update to the subnet_prefix_length attribute (coordinate with me) | 18:20 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura had comments on adding explicit UT on the plugin patch | 18:20 |
SumitNaiksatam | the code path for the dummy driver currently gets exercised | 18:20 |
SumitNaiksatam | with the existing UTs | 18:20 |
SumitNaiksatam | but it will be good to have specific UTs and will help with the downstream patches | 18:21 |
rkukura | yes, that patch didn’t verify that the right driver methods get called with context objects containing the right data | 18:21 |
SumitNaiksatam | So banix is working on adding driver-specific UTs to GPM-PLG-1 | 18:21 |
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rkukura | SumitNaiksatam, banix: great! | 18:21 |
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SumitNaiksatam | banix: :D | 18:21 |
banix | sorry guys :) just kidding. I have been following | 18:22 |
SumitNaiksatam | i have also not put the DB migration script in GP-DB-1 | 18:22 |
SumitNaiksatam | whats the thinking, should we add it upfront, or should we add one script at the end of the series? | 18:22 |
SumitNaiksatam | ok, let me know if you have thoughts | 18:24 |
SumitNaiksatam | #topic Mapping Model/Driver Update | 18:24 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: over to you | 18:24 |
rkukura | Does not having the migration actually prevent deploying neutron-server with the plugin? | 18:24 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: perhaps, so its required upfront | 18:24 |
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SumitNaiksatam | will add it | 18:24 |
SumitNaiksatam | and we can modify the same script in the subsequent patches | 18:25 |
rkukura | I was on PTO most of the past week, but managed to make some progress, especially while stuck at JFK most of yesterday | 18:25 |
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rkukura | The implicit_driver patch is done, but it and the other gpm-* patches need to be rebased | 18:25 |
rkukura | Free wi-fi in the wine bar next to our gate helped | 18:25 |
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rkukura | kept my wife from being too annoyed that I was working | 18:26 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: great, good to hear about the implicit-driver | 18:26 |
banix | big storm came through the city | 18:27 |
banix | yesterday | 18:27 |
rkukura | So I will rebase gpm-ipd and the other gpm-* patches and post today | 18:27 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ok great | 18:27 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: the mapping dirver, how is that coming along? | 18:27 |
rkukura | I’m now going to get the gpm-rmd (resource_mapping driver) into a functional state and post ASAP | 18:27 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: great, i guess we need that in ASAP to get past the current -2 on the first patch | 18:28 |
s3wong | rkukura: which repo has you been working off of? I couldn't find it on noironetworks/neutron-group-policy | 18:28 |
rkukura | Hopefully this will all some if the Sumit’s initial patches to start merging, even if this one is still WIP | 18:28 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes, i agree, i think its a reasonable expectation | 18:28 |
rkukura | s3wong: I’m working off gerrit | 18:28 |
banix | hi | 18:28 |
s3wong | rkukura: I see | 18:29 |
banix | sorry oops wrong window | 18:29 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: any blockers, or anything you wanted to bring up for discussion? | 18:29 |
rkukura | I should be able to make some progress on gpm-rmd over the long weekend (since I’ve just had a nice vacation) and hopefully have it pretty much complete by Monday. | 18:29 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ok | 18:30 |
s3wong | rkukura: OK - I will need to look at your mapping driver part to think about the contract rendering part | 18:30 |
rkukura | No blockers right now, just need to know whether to rebase on the current gp-* patches or wait for updates | 18:30 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ok, i have to run to another meeting immediately after this, but will get to it later in the day after that | 18:30 |
s3wong | rkukura: SumitNaiksatam: in the mean time, I will look at SumitNaiksatam 's latest contract API/DB patches to see which fields need to get into mapping DB | 18:30 |
rkukura | s3wong: Hopefully a WIP patch, probably missing UTs, will help with that | 18:31 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i will update once i am done | 18:31 |
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s3wong | rkukura: I am sure it will :-) | 18:31 |
SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: thanks, we have a separate agenda item for you :-) | 18:31 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thanks for the update | 18:31 |
SumitNaiksatam | #topic CLI/Client update | 18:31 |
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SumitNaiksatam | songole: over to you | 18:31 |
songole | API-1 patch is posted | 18:32 |
songole | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104013/ | 18:32 |
SumitNaiksatam | songole: sweet, thanks so much for jumping on it in hemanth’s absence and getting it ready in quick time | 18:32 |
songole | I will update the name changes | 18:32 |
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SumitNaiksatam | songole: thanks | 18:32 |
songole | So, should it be gp_ or grouppolicy_? | 18:32 |
SumitNaiksatam | songole: so you had a question on whether CLI should start with gp- or grouppolicy- | 18:33 |
SumitNaiksatam | songole: yeah | 18:33 |
SumitNaiksatam | i think the current practice in neutron is to spell it out? | 18:33 |
banix | i think grouppolicy_ would be better at the end of the day with auto completion etc | 18:33 |
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rkukura | Are acronyms used for the other services? | 18:33 |
SumitNaiksatam | i dont have a devstack ready here to check quickly | 18:34 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i think we are probably using a mixed approach | 18:34 |
SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: do we go loadbalancer- or lb- in the lbaas CLI? | 18:34 |
rkukura | I like acronyms ;) | 18:34 |
SumitNaiksatam | i know for fwaas we have “fw-“ | 18:34 |
songole | vpn, lb | 18:34 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes, we all kknow that :-) | 18:34 |
banix | neutron router-interface-add …. | 18:34 |
s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: I think it is 'loadbalancer' | 18:35 |
SumitNaiksatam | yeah, i think we have been using a mixed approach | 18:35 |
songole | SumitNaiksatam: it is lb_ | 18:35 |
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s3wong | songole: seems like I got it wrong :-) | 18:35 |
songole | floatingip is expanded | 18:35 |
rkukura | I like acronyms, but I don’t like “shortenned” words | 18:35 |
SumitNaiksatam | there is probably a character threshold beyond which we resort to acronyms | 18:35 |
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SumitNaiksatam | to banix’s earlier point, CLI is auto completed | 18:36 |
SumitNaiksatam | so we really dont need to type even if we have the long form | 18:36 |
SumitNaiksatam | (my personal perference is also with the acronym) | 18:36 |
SumitNaiksatam | but perhaps we can roll with “grouppolicy_”? | 18:37 |
SumitNaiksatam | the two ‘p’s in between make it tricky if you chose not to autocomplete | 18:37 |
songole | SumitNaiksatam: agree | 18:37 |
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s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: so what was the reviewer's reason to move from 'gp' to 'grouppolicy'? | 18:38 |
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s3wong | that 'gp' can mean something else? | 18:38 |
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SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: i dont know | 18:38 |
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SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: sure we will have time for that | 18:39 |
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regXboi | SumitNaiksatam: thx | 18:39 |
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SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: i chose not to deliberate too much on subjective issues | 18:39 |
s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: fair enough :-) | 18:39 |
songole | SumitNaiksatam: so, the consensus is grouppolicy_? | 18:39 |
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SumitNaiksatam | any objections? | 18:40 |
rkukura | My vote would be gp_, but won’t object | 18:40 |
banix | no objections | 18:40 |
SumitNaiksatam | i will take that as a no objection from rkukura | 18:40 |
s3wong | doesn't matter, really :-) do have to settle on one | 18:40 |
regXboi | I'd agree with rkukura, as it is shorter to type, but I won't object either | 18:40 |
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SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: you dont need to type | 18:40 |
SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: its auto completed | 18:41 |
SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: however we the base URI is /grouppolicy, in case if some level of consistency needs to exist between them | 18:41 |
SumitNaiksatam | dont hear any objections yet | 18:41 |
regXboi | consistency is always good | 18:41 |
SumitNaiksatam | ok, done then! | 18:41 |
SumitNaiksatam | #agreed CLI prefix is grouppolicy_ (not gp_) | 18:42 |
songole | ok | 18:42 |
SumitNaiksatam | songole: any other blockers for you? | 18:42 |
songole | no. I am unblocked! | 18:42 |
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SumitNaiksatam | songole: nice, and thanks again for stepping up on this! | 18:43 |
SumitNaiksatam | we are running a bit slow today | 18:43 |
SumitNaiksatam | #topic Security Group mapping update | 18:43 |
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SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: over to you | 18:43 |
SumitNaiksatam | progress? | 18:43 |
SumitNaiksatam | i know you ahve dependency | 18:44 |
SumitNaiksatam | but still… ;-P | 18:44 |
s3wong | So as we talked about last week, it seems like the only item that needs to be added to mapping DB would be the security group ID | 18:44 |
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SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: do we have a document? or perhaps edit to the existing mapping google doc, to capture your thoughts? | 18:44 |
s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: yes, documentation is the first step - where is the existing mapping doc? | 18:45 |
rkukura | s3wong: Any thoughts on whether to incrementally modify the SGs as various policies change, or just trigger regenerating them? | 18:45 |
SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: its linked somewhere from the wiki :-P | 18:45 |
s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: OK | 18:45 |
SumitNaiksatam | #link https://docs.google.com/a/noironetworks.com/document/d/134P7TJdiIfjPWbmstSTY4vp9E6oRYTFs64ON3thFxhI/edit?usp=sharing | 18:46 |
SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: ^^^ | 18:46 |
SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: sorry for being pushy, but when can we expect an update? | 18:46 |
s3wong | rkukura: I am thinking at this point we have one security group for the whole contract, and have each policy-rule be added as incremental update | 18:46 |
s3wong | rkukura: do you see any potential problem? | 18:47 |
SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: ok | 18:47 |
s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: yes, after the Service Insertion spec update, I will update the doc to reflect on my thoughts | 18:47 |
mandeep | s3wong: ok | 18:47 |
rkukura | s3wong: I was thinking we’d need a SG per EPG or something like that | 18:47 |
s3wong | rkukura: OK - but if an EPG consumes or provides more than one contracts, do we simply consolidate? | 18:48 |
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SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: thanks! | 18:48 |
s3wong | rkukura: (and this also makes future expansion on stuff like label difficult to manage, right?) | 18:48 |
rkukura | s3wong: I was thinking that we’d need to merge the rules from all contacts into one SG. I don’t think a port can use more than one SG. | 18:49 |
rkukura | s/contacts/contracts/ | 18:49 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i dont think so either | 18:49 |
s3wong | rkukura: Oh, OK. That makes sense - have to work with limitation on SG | 18:49 |
banix | yup one sg | 18:49 |
rkukura | If an EPG has multiple subnets, I think they could all use the same SG, but I’m not sure | 18:49 |
SumitNaiksatam | #action sync up between s3wong rkukura mandeep SumitNaiksatam on SG mapping, s3wong to put some initial thoughts in https://docs.google.com/a/noironetworks.com/document/d/134P7TJdiIfjPWbmstSTY4vp9E6oRYTFs64ON3thFxhI/edit?usp=sharing | 18:50 |
s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: will update the doc over the Indpendence Day weekend | 18:50 |
SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: thanks! | 18:50 |
* SumitNaiksatam realizes he is not making too many friends here! | 18:50 | |
SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: so on the code front you have a dependency, and are blocked | 18:51 |
s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: well, if rkukura works during his PTO, it is only appropriate that I also work during ID4 :-) | 18:51 |
s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: yes, for one, action isn't defined yet from your contract patch | 18:51 |
rkukura | s3wong: I intended to get a lot more work done than I actually did, so please don’t feel any obligation | 18:52 |
s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: and (2) I would like to see rkukura 's mapping driver patch once it is available | 18:52 |
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SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: ok, makes sense | 18:52 |
SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: i think as long as we have a plan in place, please shout out to us if you are blocked | 18:53 |
s3wong | rkukura: cool :-) | 18:53 |
s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: certainly | 18:53 |
SumitNaiksatam | we have our backs to the wall in terms of J2 deadline | 18:53 |
s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: I was stuck in an event over the last two days, so progress has been slow... sorry about that | 18:53 |
regXboi | um... quick acro expansion: SG = ?? | 18:53 |
SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: np at all | 18:54 |
SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: security group | 18:54 |
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s3wong | regXboi: security group | 18:54 |
mandeep | regXboi: Security Group | 18:54 |
regXboi | ah thanks | 18:54 |
SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: thanks much for the update | 18:54 |
regXboi | I was suddenly thinking service g.... and getting confused :) | 18:54 |
SumitNaiksatam | #topic services’s integration | 18:54 |
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SumitNaiksatam | banix: any thoughts? | 18:54 |
SumitNaiksatam | or update | 18:55 |
s3wong | damn, me again :-) ? | 18:55 |
banix | to s3wong | 18:55 |
SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: i tried to be subtle | 18:55 |
SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: you can blame banix now! :-P | 18:55 |
s3wong | So last week I met with mandeep and SumitNaiksatam , and decided to not wait for ServiceBase for 'redirect' | 18:55 |
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SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: ok good, i believe there is a bit of dependency there as well on the driver patches that are expected | 18:56 |
SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: thanks for that update | 18:56 |
SumitNaiksatam | #topic open discussion | 18:56 |
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SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: go for it | 18:56 |
regXboi | may I? | 18:56 |
regXboi | so I was reviewing the GBP patch sets | 18:56 |
SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: yes thanks | 18:56 |
regXboi | and I'm missing a policy classifier that goes beyond the protocol | 18:57 |
regXboi | specifically I have a use case where I want to look at the first octet of the MAC | 18:57 |
regXboi | because of different policies for multicast traffic | 18:57 |
mandeep | regXboi: By design the classifiers are L4+ and the endpoints (L3 and below) are expected to be identified by group membership | 18:57 |
regXboi | doesn't matter | 18:58 |
mandeep | regXboi: We need to think of multicast specifically | 18:58 |
regXboi | I'm saying that an L4+ classifier appears to miss the boat | 18:58 |
SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: i believe our current classifier definition is extensible | 18:58 |
mandeep | regXboi: I get your point on multicast, and I agree that it is an problem | 18:59 |
regXboi | SumitNaiksatam: I hope so, because I'm going to put comments in looking to do that | 18:59 |
regXboi | so be prepared to see some comments on the classifiers for that | 18:59 |
SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: sure, and duly noted | 18:59 |
regXboi | otherwise the patch sets will be getting +1s from me down the line | 18:59 |
regXboi | (for what it is worth) | 18:59 |
regXboi | SumitNaiksatam: that was all I had | 18:59 |
SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: definitely helps a lot to get the +1 | 18:59 |
* regXboi stole the first X minutes of this meeting to actually *DO* the reading :) | 19:00 | |
SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: as long as there is a path to evolve, i think we should keep rolling | 19:00 |
SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: otherwise we are not going to get this update off the ground | 19:00 |
mandeep | regXboi: I agree that the multicast use case needs to be resolved (as opposed to that we need to extend the classifier to L3 and below ;-) | 19:00 |
regXboi | SumitNaiksatam: I'm good with that - I'll probably leave the ones with comments at 0 for the nonce | 19:01 |
regXboi | so I'm not blocking | 19:01 |
SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: sure | 19:01 |
regXboi | mandeep: I'd prefer not to have different mechanisms | 19:01 |
s3wong | mandeep: yes, hopefully you don't go back to discussing adding IP addresses and what not in classifier | 19:01 |
* regXboi cringes | 19:01 | |
mandeep | s3wong: That was the point that I was making | 19:01 |
SumitNaiksatam | ok we are runnning a couple of mins over | 19:01 |
regXboi | who will be in MN next week? | 19:02 |
regXboi | we can talk about this then... | 19:02 |
SumitNaiksatam | i cant make it | 19:02 |
banix | i think apart from me and you rkukura | 19:02 |
regXboi | :( | 19:02 |
mandeep | I will not be there either | 19:02 |
s3wong | won't be there, unfortunately | 19:02 |
regXboi | ok... so we'll take this to email then | 19:02 |
regXboi | I'll put together some thoughts in comments and we can branch from that | 19:03 |
s3wong | regXboi: sounds good | 19:03 |
mandeep | regXboi: may be a quick call will converge faster | 19:03 |
SumitNaiksatam | regXboi: sounds good, will follow up specifically on this with you | 19:03 |
SumitNaiksatam | what mandeep said | 19:03 |
regXboi | mandeep: the trick is finding time :( | 19:03 |
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SumitNaiksatam | ok i will wrap it here | 19:03 |
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SumitNaiksatam | thanks all and happy 4th of July! | 19:03 |
regXboi | banix will tell you: I'm a really popular guy | 19:03 |
SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 19:04 |
s3wong | thanks everyone! | 19:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:04 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 3 19:04:00 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:04 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-07-03-18.00.html | 19:04 |
mandeep | regXboi: I agree. Let us start with an email, and taje it form there | 19:04 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-07-03-18.00.txt | 19:04 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-07-03-18.00.log.html | 19:04 |
rkukura | bye | 19:04 |
mandeep | bye | 19:04 |
songole | bye | 19:04 |
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