Wednesday, 2014-02-19

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flwangkgriffs: any lucky you there?08:45
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alcabreraGood morning! :D14:17
flaper87alcabrera: GOOOOD MORNING14:18
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alcabreraflaper87: yo! How go things? :)14:25
flaper87alcabrera: all good, how ya doin' ?14:29
alcabreraHappy - devouring this breakfast plate! Also, pleased, because there is so much I want to read right now. :D14:30
flaper87alcabrera: awesome awesome!14:31
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cpallareshi alcabrera!14:40
alcabreracpallares: good morning! How goes? :)14:43
cpallaresalcabrera: Pretty good. I tried haskell yesterday and read a couple of pages of that book. So far it doesn't seem that  different. It seems a lot like python.14:44
cpallareshow are you?14:44
alcabreraYay, Haskell! map/fold/filter *all* the things (safely)!14:45
alcabreraI'm doing wonderfully. I just had breakfast, and now I'm doing some early reading before jumping on things that need doing. :)14:45
flaper87cpallares: it's quite different, though. I mean, some things might look similar but under the hood haskell is a complete different kind of beast14:47
flaper87snakes? pfff Haskell eats those for breakfast14:47
flaper87:D14:47
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cpallareslol14:48
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alcabreralol14:48
alcabreraflaper87 tells the truth14:48
cpallaresI've heard it's different and hard to grasp. I haven't gotten very far in the book. Womp, womp.14:49
alcabrerait's a whole new world in Haskell, cpallares. The type system, laziness, and purity/controlled side-effects make for some awesome times. It takes a lot of unlearning going from an imperative background, but it's soooooo worth it.14:50
* alcabrera has been in love with Haskell for at least a year14:50
malinio/14:53
alcabreramalini: good morning! :D14:53
malinigood morning :D14:54
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malinialcabrera & me sit next to each other, but still need IRC :D14:54
alcabrera:P14:54
cpallareshahaha14:55
cpallareshello malini, how are you doing?14:55
alcabreramalini stepped away to take a call. :P14:56
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malinihello cpallares !! I am doing great , how are you?14:57
malini5 hours & Jenkins still hasnt started the merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74467/14:59
maliniDoes it need anything else to trigger tht?15:00
alcabreraIt took like 8 hours for jenkins to finish running checks on my shards patch yesterday.15:02
maliniI dont see it start any checks15:02
cpallareswow, why is that happening? It didn't used to take even half an hour a couple of weeks ago.15:03
maliniI am biting my nails since early morning…cant wait to see if this will fix my failed tempest job15:04
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alcabreramalini: http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ :(15:14
alcabrerathere's a tempest job that's been sitting in there for >12 hours15:14
maliniuh..oh15:15
malinimy blood pressure is going to shoot up by this evening :D15:15
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kgriffsflaper87: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74044/16:10
kgriffs:D16:10
kgriffs:D16:10
kgriffs:D16:10
kgriffsflaper87: we need to upgrade you to a quad-core CPU16:10
kgriffsor better yet16:11
kgriffslet's go all positronic16:11
* flaper87 back16:11
kgriffsI would do it myself, but I'm not able to harm other robots.16:12
* kgriffs may be persuaded with convoluted logic but doesn't realize it16:13
kgriffsalcabrera: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7349316:17
kgriffsLOL16:17
kgriffsnote that Shuangtai didn't have to touch a single line of actual Marconi code.16:18
kgriffskudos to you, alcabrera16:18
* kgriffs is starting to wonder if he missed the holocaust and is the last person alive on Earth16:19
* kgriffs listens to the wind blow across the empty landscape16:19
alcabrerao.o16:19
kgriffsYIKES!!!!!!16:19
* alcabrera was absorbed by the pythonz16:19
kgriffs<phew>16:19
* alcabrera escapes handily16:19
kgriffsit's alcabrera16:19
kgriffsalcabrera: looks like it's just you and me16:20
alcabrerathis happens every so often16:20
alcabreraI blame parallel universes16:20
kgriffswanna split up and look for other survivors?16:20
alcabrerawe keep getting sucked in16:20
kgriffs;)16:20
jay-atlYou guys are really weird... LOL...16:20
alcabrerasplitting up is not the way to go16:20
alcabrerathis much, I've learned from dist sys16:20
alcabrerawe should replicate!16:20
alcabrera:D16:20
malinijay-atl: you say tht abt everybody, dont you?16:20
kgriffswoah16:21
jay-atlhahah... Just so they don't look to closely at me.. :-P16:21
kgriffsmore survivors than I thought16:21
kgriffsthis is great16:21
* alcabrera gives the survivors pop tarts16:21
jay-atlOh, and usually I'm right Malini...16:21
jay-atlhahah16:21
* kgriffs is weird and proud of it16:21
mpanettaI'm here.  Things have gone all sideways...16:22
kgriffsI have to be weird, now that I live in Austin16:22
kgriffsgotta fit in, you know?16:22
jay-atlhahah... Not that there is anything wrong with that...16:22
jay-atlI didn't say weird is bad... I just identified a fact...16:22
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/marconi: feat(v1.1): Plumb v1.1 API in the WSGI transport  https://review.openstack.org/7404416:22
alcabreraso let's see16:23
alcabrerathere are things to review16:23
alcabreraor so I've heard16:23
alcabreraI should maybe review those things16:23
alcabreraoh yes - our python 3 compatibility is pretty sharp16:24
alcabrera:D16:24
flaper87holy crap, I just realized how many reviewers +1 the v1.1 patch16:24
flaper87:016:24
flaper87the team keeps growing16:24
alcabrerapeople want v1.1, flaper87. They want it *bad*. :D16:24
flaper87alcabrera: TBH, I think kgriffs is rich and he payed them16:25
alcabreraand that's why kgriffs will provide all the party goods for the summit16:25
alcabreraremember16:25
alcabrerameeting #3916:25
alcabrera:D16:25
kgriffsDogecoin for more review16:25
alcabrera* #4016:26
alcabrera"Everyone to thank kgriffs for being so nice and paying for whatever we need at the next summit"16:26
alcabreraref: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/marconi/2014/marconi.2014-02-11-15.01.html16:26
sriramoh man. haha :D16:26
alcabrerare: py3, the moment we drop memcache as a req, we can run marconi on py316:26
kgriffs8-O16:26
kgriffsflaper87: hey, what's the plan with oslo cache?16:27
alcabreraI say drop, because python-memcached looks stale. It's gotten no love on the PyPI16:27
kgriffsshould we go ahead and write that redis driver?16:27
kgriffsor still waiting on beaker investigation?16:27
flaper87kgriffs: I think we should, there's some other effort on wrapping oslo.cache with dogetail.cache16:27
flaper87or the other way around16:27
kgriffs(was it beaker?)16:28
flaper87I need to touch bases with Morgan16:28
kgriffsdogetail.cache ?16:28
alcabreraI have most of the redis driver written16:28
kgriffsWAH16:28
flaper87https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72291/16:28
alcabreraand yes - dogetail.cache?16:28
kgriffsalcabrera: go, go, go!16:29
alcabreraooohhh16:29
alcabreradogpile.cache16:29
alcabreraI like dogetail better16:29
flaper87ah yeah, dogpile16:29
flaper87:P16:29
kgriffsdogepile.cache16:29
kgriffslol16:29
kgriffsalcabrera: looking forward to the Redis pull request16:29
kgriffs(I'm)16:30
alcabreraI'm leaving it alone for awhile, but I'll make it more visible16:30
alcabreraI'm happy to have someone else pick it up16:30
kgriffsalcabrera: I'll ping you if things work out and I magically have more time to work on that16:30
kgriffswait, WAH16:31
kgriffsdid flaper87 approve my patch?16:31
kgriffsWHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO!16:31
flaper87kgriffs: I'll approve the loan you requested next16:31
* kgriffs slips flaper87 a couple dogecoin under the table16:32
kgriffsanybody actually mine the things, BTW?16:32
kgriffs(anybody here)16:32
alcabreraI keep watching the space - no mining, though16:33
kgriffswouldn't it be cool if there were a currency that you could only mine within Minecraft?16:33
kgriffs</off-the-wall-random>16:33
kgriffsStarbound should totally have their own cryptocurrency16:34
alcabreraoooohh16:34
kgriffsStarcoin16:34
alcabrerayeah16:34
alcabrerayesss16:34
alcabrerait has such a nice ring to it16:34
kgriffsI feel a mod coming on16:34
alcabrerayes16:34
alcabreralua driver for starcoin16:34
alcabrerahotfixes on hotfixes on hotfixes - every other day16:34
alcabrerabut hey - awesome mods and infinite star coins!16:35
alcabreramine them by digging to the core of a planet16:35
mpanettaLua!!!16:35
kgriffsalcabrera: is there Lua already or are you dreaming?16:35
kgriffspersonally, I think they should embed v816:35
kgriffsbut, that's just me16:36
mpanettaLua is such a fun little language.16:36
alcabrerastarbound's plugin system is lua-based, kgriffs16:36
alcabrerait's been official for months16:36
kgriffscool16:36
kgriffsI REEEEEAAAALLLYYY need to go buy that game16:36
alcabrerakgriffs: http://starbounder.org/Modding:Lua_API16:36
mpanettaI think a lot of games use it for mods.16:36
kgriffsmpanetta: they do.16:36
mpanettaI know Warcraft does16:36
kgriffsit's the de-facto standard16:36
alcabrerahehe16:37
kgriffsIf only lists were zero-indexed16:37
alcabreraI'm looking forward to the day that games are implemented in functional languages, and all the mods are written in Lisps16:37
kgriffsthat's one of my two pet peeves16:37
kgriffsI think the other was something to do with looping, but I can't remember16:37
kgriffsIt's been years since I've done any Lua16:37
kgriffsalcabrera: that's crazy talk!16:38
* kgriffs ducks16:38
alcabreralol16:38
* alcabrera maps poptarts into the kgriffs collection -- map (++poptart) kgriffs16:38
alcabreraon lua: http://notebook.kulchenko.com/programming/lua-good-different-bad-and-ugly-parts -- I like this summary of the parts16:39
mpanettaAww, now kgriffs has poptarts attached in random places16:39
alcabreraI feel better about it than I do about JS and Perl16:39
alcabrerampanetta: not entirely random - it's attached to whatever the ends of kgriffs are defined as. :)16:40
mpanettaHmm, head hands and feet?16:40
alcabrerasounds reasonable to me. :P16:40
alcabrerakgriffs, mpanetta: http://gaming.cppcabrera.com/ -- minecraft is missing from this collection16:40
mpanettaQuick someone make a pic of kgriffs with a poptart sticking out the top ofhis head!16:41
alcabrera(I host minecraft, too)16:41
mpanettaIs it an open server?16:41
alcabrerayup16:41
mpanettaI have not played it in the last 2 months heh16:41
alcabreramost of the time, it's jess and I playing on these two or three servers.16:42
mpanettacool16:42
mpanettaI have too many things I want to do with minecraft... :(16:44
mpanettaI stopped playing since it gets boring playing by onesself :P16:44
mpanettaWell for me anyway16:44
mpanettaI know people that all they do is single player minecraft16:45
alcabreraIt's been much more fun with others. It's the same with Diablo. And Starbound. For minecraft, I've been building a beautiful little house in a savanna billage.16:46
cpallaresalcabrera, mpanetta: I want to play minecraft, is it one of those games where you get hooked?16:53
mpanettacpallares: It can be16:53
* alcabrera agrees with mpanetta16:54
flaper87cpallares: it's more like. It is one of those games that controls your mind and will of doing other things16:54
cpallareshahaha16:54
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alcabreracreate lots of things, mine for diamonds and zen (peace of mind), and run from creepers16:54
alcabrerait's just like real life16:54
alcabrera:D16:54
cpallareshahaha16:55
mpanettalol16:55
flaper87except that there's no politics there16:56
mpanettaThankfully :P16:57
alcabreraso true16:58
alcabrerathe closest thing to politics is being surrounded by trading villagers16:58
alcabreraI can still remember their "HMMs? HMMs!"16:58
alcabreraand the doors16:58
alcabreraopening and closing repeatedly16:59
alcabreravillages are crazy16:59
mpanettahaha yes16:59
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mpanettaI want to abduct villagers17:00
alcabreraIt's possible now with leads, I think17:01
alcabreraOh17:02
alcabrerathat's another good story17:02
mpanettaleads?17:02
alcabrerausing 4 leads, jess and I migrated four donkeys across continents by tying leads to them and moving swiftly with boats.17:02
alcabreraleads == kind of like leashes17:02
alcabreranew item in v1.7.x17:02
alcabreradouble donkey surfing17:02
mpanettaoh sweet17:02
mpanettalol17:02
mpanettaI wish the mods would catch up...17:03
flaper87brb dinner17:04
alcabreraflaper87: enjoy!17:07
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openstackgerritShawnyu proposed a change to openstack/marconi: doc(queues.storage.mongodb.catalogue): Add docstrings  https://review.openstack.org/7480719:03
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kgriffsflaper87: ping19:35
flaper87kgriffs: pong19:35
kgriffswho was it that was working on kombu support for Marconi?19:35
kgriffsI just got asked again for the gazillionth time about marconi support in oslo.messaging, and kombu would provide that, nicht?19:36
flaper87kgriffs: you may want to see this: https://github.com/celery/kombu/pull/315/19:37
kgriffsOK, thought it was Alex but couldn't remember for sure19:37
kgriffs"You can merge it, but would be nice to have some unit tests for it"19:38
kgriffsFANTASTIC19:38
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kgriffsso, for the record, I think it is kinda awesome that we never promoted using Marconi with oslo.messaging19:38
kgriffsbut19:38
kgriffstons of people keep asking for it19:38
kgriffsless than promoted, we explicitly said "that isn't our aim"19:38
flaper87yeah, I stand by that, still19:39
kgriffsnow *that* is the way to direct project requirements. Less dictating and more moderating and observing19:39
kgriffsflaper87: yep, I don't know that we will ever officially bless it, but I think if people find value in doing that, why not let them?19:40
flaper87absolutely19:40
flaper87as long as we stay focus on few things that are core to this project, I'm fine with people doing whatever they want outside of it19:41
flaper87That may sound jerkish but you know me, I'm not like that19:41
flaper87:D19:41
kgriffsflaper87: yes, there is that about focus19:42
kgriffsflaper87: btw, would it make sense to link directly to http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.messaging/ from oslo.messaging's README ?19:44
flaper87mmh, yeah... many people struggle with finding oslo.messaging's docs19:45
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kgriffsflaper87: sweet.20:03
kgriffsI needed a trivial patch to work on so I could get my ATC badge for Atlanta.20:03
kgriffs;)20:03
flaper87kgriffs: don't you get it now that marconi is incubated ?20:06
kgriffsyes. I'm totally kidding. :D20:06
flaper87ah, damn, sorry20:06
flaper87:D20:06
kgriffslol20:06
* flaper87 slaps himself20:06
kgriffsflaper87: https://review.openstack.org/7482020:08
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kgriffsryanpetrello: hey man20:09
ryanpetrellohey20:09
ryanpetrellowas just checking in20:09
ryanpetrelloalcabrera: https://github.com/balajiiyer/marconi/pull/2/files20:09
ryanpetrellowas helping balajiiyer w/ this20:09
kgriffscool, glad to hear it20:09
ryanpetrelloI know you mentioned the issues you had w/ passing driver metadata into the Pecan root controller20:09
flaper87ryanpetrello: have I told you how much you rock ?20:09
ryanpetrellosomebody in the meeting the other day suggested a pecan hook to attach context to the request20:09
ryanpetrellothis does it20:09
kgriffsbalajiiyer: ^^^20:10
* alcabrera catches up20:10
alcabreraI step away and everything happens. :P20:10
ryanpetrelloglad to do it20:10
* alcabrera forgot to *|afk20:10
ryanpetrellothis should give balajiiyer what he needs to keep tinkering20:10
ryanpetrellobut let me know if there's anything else I can help w/20:10
alcabreraryanpetrello: thanks for all your help! Definitely appreciated. :)20:11
balajiiyeryup, ryanpetrello is awesome, I was working with him this morning - Im yet to take a look at the PR, but  a quick look reveals that I may have a working controller the right way20:11
balajiiyerin a meeting.. brb20:12
balajiiyerryanpetrello: thanks man20:12
ryanpetrellotell me about other gripes like this20:13
ryanpetrellothese are the types of things pecan should make easier20:13
ryanpetrelloin fact, I'm thinking about writing support for this sort thing so people don't have to muck about with hooks; it seems common enough20:13
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alcabrera+120:17
alcabreraI didn't realize that hooks could be used to attach context like this with pecan20:17
alcabreravery, very gtk20:17
ryanpetrelloyep, the request threadlocal contains this dictionary to "put stuff" on a per-request basis20:18
ryanpetrellohttps://github.com/stackforge/pecan/blob/master/pecan/core.py#L56720:18
ryanpetrellohttps://github.com/stackforge/pecan/blob/master/pecan/core.py#L59820:18
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kgriffshttps://www.openstack.org/vote-atlanta20:51
kgriffsstart your engines!20:51
* alcabrera tries to start engine - EOUTOFBATTERY20:52
kgriffslol20:52
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kgriffsd00d, where do they get their mug shot?21:01
kgriffshttps://www.openstack.org/vote-atlanta/Presentation/marconi-please-leave-a-message21:01
kgriffsgravatar?21:01
alcabreraSeems likely21:02
flaper87https://www.openstack.org/vote-atlanta/Presentation/mentoring-others-and-yourself-an-openstack-community-success-story21:04
flaper87just go to the search box, search for flavio and pick one21:04
flaper87:D21:05
flaper87looks like I'm the only flavio in the whole community21:05
flaper87at least among those who proposed a talk21:05
kgriffswoah, who do we contact to fix up that abstract on "leave a message"21:05
kgriffsit has a serious case of copy-paste21:05
* alcabrera runs away21:05
alcabreralemme see if I can fix that21:06
flaper87me ?21:06
kgriffsI would also like to to improve my bio if you find a way21:06
flaper87done21:06
flaper87kgriffs: go to your profile21:06
kgriffsahhhh21:06
kgriffswait, where?21:07
kgriffsI mean, is this using the launchpad profile, openstack profile, what?21:07
flaper87kgriffs: nope, your profile in openstack.org21:08
kgriffskk21:08
* kgriffs feels dumb21:08
kgriffs:p21:08
flaper87kgriffs: https://www.openstack.org/profile/21:08
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flaper87well, I htink that's the one21:09
flaper87:D21:09
alcabrerakgriffs, flaper87: interesting - I think I broke it further: https://www.openstack.org/vote-atlanta/Presentation/marconi-please-leave-a-message21:09
flaper87alcabrera: LOOOL21:10
mpanettaWow that is impressive21:10
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mpanettaHow did you make that login thing float like that? lol21:11
alcabreralol21:12
alcabreraI have no idea21:12
alcabreraI improved it slightly21:12
alcabrerathe text is no longer repeated21:12
alcabreraand it separates into paragraphs21:12
alcabrerabut I have some concerns about the HTML on this page21:12
kgriffswow21:13
kgriffsmakes me wonder if there isn't a fun little vulnerability in the iste21:14
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kgriffswe should inject a banner that says "VOTE FOR PEDRO"21:14
* kgriffs is kidding21:14
* kgriffs kind of21:14
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alcabrerafixed it - https://www.openstack.org/vote-atlanta/Presentation/marconi-please-leave-a-message21:18
alcabrerait actually accepts raw HTML21:18
alcabrerasooo21:18
alcabrerathat's totally possible21:18
alcabreraIt had inserted like 4 extraneous <div>s for whatever reason21:19
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* alcabrera is *really* tempted to insert a poptart image21:20
kgriffsalcabrera: thanks21:20
kgriffshmmm21:20
kgriffs"and has hit the ground running with queuing capabilities for Icehouse." sounds awkward to me21:20
* kgriffs updated bio but isn't seeing the change21:21
alcabreraagreed21:21
kgriffsalcabrera: can you see if we need to ask someone to repull from openstack profiles?21:22
cpallaresalcabrera: insert the poptart image21:22
cpallaresalcabrera: doooo it!21:22
kgriffsLOL21:27
kgriffsand make it float in a thought bubble over flaper87's head21:27
kgriffsinline CSS FTW!21:27
flaper87LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL21:27
kgriffsalcabrera: are you working on that first sentence? I'd be happy to offer some suggestions (did some copyrighting in a former life)21:28
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/marconi: Sync common modules from olso and remove py3kcompat  https://review.openstack.org/7349321:28
kgriffsalcabrera: p.s., the 's' in Openstack should be capitalized21:29
* alcabrera catches up21:30
alcabrerayes, kgriffs - suggestions would be great!21:31
kgriffs"OpenStack Queue Service ("Marconi") brings web-scale, distributed messaging to OpenStack."21:31
alcabrerasweet21:31
kgriffsor just OpenStack Marconi21:31
alcabreracpallares, flaper87, kgriffs: so I did a poptart thing: https://www.openstack.org/vote-atlanta/Presentation/marconi-please-leave-a-message21:32
kgriffsalcabrera: stand by21:32
alcabreraAnd it looks *awful*21:32
alcabrera:D21:32
cpallaresLOL21:32
kgriffslet me adjust a little more of the first parapgraph21:32
kgriffsLOOOOOOOOL21:32
flaper87ROOOFFFFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL21:32
flaper87you'll need to add (pop-tarts) somewhere there21:32
alcabreraI rolled my own to avoid copyright issues. ;)21:33
alcabreraguys, I'm out for the night. :)21:34
cpallaresalcabrera: It is an incredible rendition of a pop tart. Were you classically trained in pixel art? :P21:35
cpallaresbye alcabrera!21:35
alcabreraI think flaper87, kgriffs that you should be able to tweak the talk materials here: https://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-atlanta-2014/call-for-speakers/21:35
alcabreracpallares: I was raised on pixels, but not at all trained. ;)21:35
alcabrera:D21:35
alcabreranight, all!21:35
flaper87alcabrera: bye21:35
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