Wednesday, 2013-12-18

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chandankumarflaper87, good morning08:38
chandankumari have created a vitual env , and started it08:39
chandankumarcloned the git repo there08:39
chandankumarcreated .marconi directory08:40
chandankumarcopied the configration file to .marconi08:40
chandankumarfor modifying the uri pointing to mongodb instance (at the place of mongodb, i want to use sqlite3)08:41
chandankumarhow can i configure the uri in marconi.conf?08:42
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chandankumarflaper87, ping09:15
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chandankumarhello09:44
chandankumari have deployed marconi by skipping configuration  step.09:45
chandankumari donot know how to configure sqlite for marconi.09:45
chandankumarhow can i do it?09:45
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flaper87chandankumar: pong09:49
flaper87sorry09:49
chandankumarflaper87, no problem09:49
flaper87chandankumar: in theory you don't need to do anything09:49
flaper87if you run marconi, it'll create a database for you09:49
flaper87and the required tables09:49
chandankumarflaper87, i have started marconi server09:51
chandankumarflaper87, http://fpaste.org/62809/60369138/09:52
chandankumarflaper87, it is working i think.09:53
chandankumarflaper87, for this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/marconi/+bug/1239834, i am understanding from the description what i have to solve.09:54
chandankumar*am not09:54
chandankumar?09:55
chandankumarplease explain a more on that.09:55
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flaper87chandankumar: you need to check all the classes constructores and make sure they're not assigning attributes that are not used by that class10:21
flaper87also, make sure those attributes are prefixed by a '_' if they're private10:22
chandankumarflaper87, i made the changes in the code how can i check it is working on not, (because after starting marconi server), will doing a query using curl will give the output?10:25
flaper87chandankumar: $ tox -epy27,pep810:28
flaper87that's how you run tests10:28
flaper87in marconi10:28
flaper87:D10:28
chandankumarflaper87, got that , Thank you :)10:28
flaper87chandankumar: my pleasure10:30
flaper87chandankumar: where are you based?10:30
chandankumarflaper87, i am from Pune (India).10:31
flaper87chandankumar: awesome! Glad to have you here!10:31
* flaper87 is based in Italy10:31
* flaper87 is not used to see people around in this channel at this time10:31
* flaper87 is happy to have chandankumar10:31
chandankumarflaper87, recently i am on-board from intern to full time in openstack cts team. :)10:32
* chandankumar is feeling happy to meet flaper87 :)10:33
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mpanettamornin cpallares13:48
cpallaresmpanetta, good morning!13:50
mpanettaHow goes?13:51
cpallaresmpanetta, pretty good but i need some coffee. How are you this morning?13:52
mpanettaNot too bad13:53
mpanettaI need some caffeine myself heh13:54
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mpanettamornin oz_akan_, amitgandhi14:06
amitgandhimorning mpanetta14:06
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mpanettawb14:08
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flaper87 /me wants to become caffeine14:34
* flaper87 wants to become caffeine14:34
flaper87that would save me some money14:35
vkmcflaper87, http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/caffederm.shtml14:36
cpallaresvkmc, i need that14:37
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cpallaresvkmc, but before that i need this https://www.thinkgeek.com/product/123f/14:38
vkmccpallares, Christmas is close... maybe Santa listen our request :o14:38
flaper87vkmc: no no no, I love the taste of caffeine and coffee together14:38
flaper87:D14:38
vkmclol14:38
vkmcnom nom nom14:39
cpallareshahaha14:39
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alcabreraGood morning!15:14
flaper87alcabrera: GOOOD MORNING15:20
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alcabreraflaper87: w00t. How are you? :D15:25
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cpallaresalcabrera, kgriffs: o/15:33
kgriffs \o15:34
alcabreracpallares: o/15:34
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mpanettamorning :)16:14
alcabrerampanetta: hey! :D16:17
* mpanetta needs to wake up 16:17
cpallaresme/ knows how mpanetta feels16:19
* cpallares got up this morning but didn't wake up16:19
cpallaresah oops, see I still need lots of caffeine16:20
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alcabreraI feel energetic today. I woke up to reading "Love and Math: the Hidden Reality", and all the talk of symmetry groups and algebras got me going for the day.16:21
alcabrera#book-link http://www.amazon.com/Love-Math-Heart-Hidden-Reality-ebook/dp/B00BKRW5E6/ref=wl_mb_wl_huc_mrai_24_dp16:22
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* alcabrera makes up coffee for cpallares, mpanetta, and everyone else who wants some16:22
mpanettaalcabrera: Have you seen Vi Harts videos on youtube?16:23
cpallareshaha thanks alcabrera16:24
alcabrerampanetta: I don't think so.16:24
* alcabrera is curious, googles Vi Harts16:24
cpallaresalcabrera, that book looks good. I like reading math books like that. I'm currently reading this one http://www.amazon.com/Drunkards-Walk-Randomness-Rules-Lives-ebook/dp/B001NXK1XO/16:25
mpanettaShe combines math and art16:25
mpanettaIn very unique ways...16:25
cpallaresmpanetta, ah the youtube channel? I've heard a lot about it!16:25
alcabrerampanetta: sweet! I've bookmarked it for later exploration. :)16:25
mpanettaShe has some very cool things, and some silly ones too :)16:26
* alcabrera clicks cpallares' book link16:26
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alcabreracpallares: thanks for the link. I added it to my kindle wishlist so I can sample it later. :D16:27
mpanettaThis is the last math book I read http://www.amazon.com/Visualizing-Quaternions-Kaufmann-Interactive-Technology/dp/0120884003/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1387384019&sr=1-4&keywords=Quaternions heh16:27
mpanettaIt was a fun learning experience for me, but not as entertaining as the books y'all read I don't think.16:28
cpallaresmpanetta, is that a textbook?16:28
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mpanettacpallares: Basically16:29
mpanettaI got it for the robotics stuff I was doing at the time.16:29
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mpanettaStarted to write some C++ classes for manipulating Quaternion baed on the book.16:29
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mpanettaI will eventually have to get back to it.16:29
mpanettaI just don't have any real hardware to run code on yet ;)16:30
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alcabreraI'll be back in a bit. :)16:31
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mpanettaI'm not even that good at math, but that book did a very good job of helping me wrap my brain around the subject.16:31
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cpallaresmpanetta, that sounds pretty cool16:33
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cpallaresAlthough I'm still in college and not very fond of textbooks :P16:33
cpallaresalcabrera, I also recommend this one! http://www.amazon.com/The-Music-Primes-Searching-Mathematics/dp/0062064010/16:34
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* flaper87 is 'one-clicking' every book posted in this channel16:57
alcabreraflaper87: hahaha, I'm almost on the same boat. :P16:57
alcabrera"Try Sample" is my best friend16:57
alcabreracpallares: Wishlisted the primes book. :)16:58
alcabrerampanetta: I also wishlisted that one, so I can sample it later.16:58
alcabrerabe back in a bit, guys - lunch!17:05
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chandankumarflaper87, good night :)17:41
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kgriffsalcabrera: <groan> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62751/18:45
alcabrerakgriffs: I saw it.18:45
alcabreraI was just talking with oz_akan_, mpanetta, and amitgandhi about it. :/18:46
kgriffswe need to do that POC ASAP18:46
alcabreraAgreed.18:46
kgriffsto help in making this discussion more objective18:46
alcabreraI wonder if we can negotiate, for the time being, as oz_akan_ suggested, that this particular version bump addresses a bug-fix in Marconi.18:47
kgriffsTo lend it credibility, I probably shouldn't be the one to do the POC18:47
alcabreraAnd tighten the requirement to 'falcon>=0.1.7,<0.1.8"18:47
kgriffswell, it is stupid18:47
kgriffsit is updating something already there18:47
alcabrerayeah...18:47
kgriffsif you have a beef with us using falcon in the first place, that is not the forum for discussing it18:47
alcabreraagreed18:48
alcabreraas far as getting Pecan done -18:49
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Alex_GaynorHey all, sorry I've been out and about so long, finally getting back into the kombu integration work -- are there docs for marconiclient, or is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Marconi/PythonClient it and if so is everything on that page implemented?19:01
kgriffsAlex_Gaynor: Flavio (flaper87) has been working on it - I don't think it is complete, but he is planning on finishing up implementing all the operations this week19:02
kgriffsthat wiki page and the code are all the documentation I know of19:02
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alcabreraAlex_Gaynor: I think the missing components at this time are claims, and yeah, that's the extent of the docs. There is one more thing available. I remember flaper87|afk submitting an example program under the marconiclient repo.19:03
alcabreraGetting close, but it needs just a little more love (and docs!). :)19:03
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Alex_GaynorWhen calling Queue.post, what form is the message supposed to take? Are there any particular keys it should have?19:24
alcabreraAlex_Gaynor: the message should be a dict in the form {'ttl': int, 'body': *}19:28
alcabreraYou can also pass in a list of said objects19:28
Alex_Gaynoralcabrera: Hmm, so what if I don't want to have a tll, is there a "no ttl" option?19:34
alcabreraAlex_Gaynor: hmmm... not at the moment. I hadn't seen that idea come up yet. :)19:40
alcabreraTTL is required for all messages so far.19:40
Alex_GaynorI'll just set the max value for now I guess.19:40
alcabreraI think that's like 2 weeks, by default.19:40
mpanettaIs this for a library?19:41
mpanettaClient library?  2 weeks is kinda long ;)19:41
alcabreraI think it's for kombu integration, mpanetta. :)19:42
Alex_GaynorYes, for kombu.19:42
mpanettaAh19:42
maliniI remember we had the same discussion for a C# client library..19:42
mpanettaI will have to look that up when I get a chance19:42
Alex_GaynorOk, is there a method for deleting all the messages in a queue?19:42
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alcabreraAlex_Gaynor: hmm... no. However, deleting a queue deletes all the messages in that queue.19:43
alcabrerampanetta: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/kombu19:43
Alex_Gaynorok, I'll do that for now, worry about metadata later19:43
mpanettaalcabrera: Ah cool. thanks :)19:44
kgriffsAlex_Gaynor: The API currently does not have a notion of a default TTL or an "infinity" TTL. But client libs may implement a notion of a default TTL and just send it up with the request.19:47
kgriffsAlex_Gaynor: although19:47
kgriffsI just remembered that max ttl is configurable19:48
kgriffsso you could set it to something insane in marconi.conf19:48
kgriffslike, 10 years19:48
kgriffsbut, if you think this is a common use case, we should just support it explicitly19:48
Alex_GaynorI don't really know what's common, I just don't want to make assumptions for users which result in them losing data19:49
kgriffsmakes sense19:49
kgriffsI guess we will have to wait and see what users need19:49
Alex_GaynorOn a different note, what messages does message_list return, all of them, or does it exclude some?19:50
alcabreraLemme look into that. I believe it doesn't have pagination support yet.19:52
alcabreraClient-side19:52
alcabreraI remember flaper87|afk talking about adding a message iterator on that in the near future.19:53
alcabreraSo I don't know if you get back the default quantity in a single call (~10) or all of them.19:53
Alex_GaynorRight now I'm not getting the message back at all :-)19:54
Alex_Gaynor(My server is just running marconi-server with no configuration, what does it use for storage?)19:54
alcabreraAlex_Gaynor: by default, it should be using sqlite. :)19:55
Alex_Gaynorok cool19:55
Alex_Gaynorso not like NullStorage or anything :-)19:55
alcabreralol19:55
alcabrerayeah19:55
alcabreraso I looked into the impl.19:55
Alex_GaynorThis would be sending the post and the get on the same client, if it matters at all?19:56
alcabreraohh, yeah. That matters.19:56
Alex_GaynorOk! How do I make it not matter :-)19:56
alcabreraif the client-id sent in is the same, then... hmm...19:56
Alex_Gaynorlooks like echo=True does it!19:57
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alcabrerathere we go. :D19:57
alcabreraso let's see - about message listing19:58
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alcabrerait uses a kwargs scheme that uses the parameters (marker, limit, echo, include_claimed) to affect the behavior19:58
alcabreraso Queue.message_list(marker=message_id, limit=10, echo=True, include_claimed=True) would be one example, though Queue.message_list can also works with a list of message Ids.19:59
alcabreraala Queue.message_list([1122, 1123, 1124, ...])20:00
alcabrerathe first is pagination-style, the second version is bulk_get20:00
alcabreras/works/work20:00
alcabreraAlex_Gaynor: ^20:00
Alex_GaynorThanks20:01
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Alex_GaynorHmm, is there a good way to delete all messages in a queue and get the number of messages deleted?20:04
Alex_Gaynor(Is there a way to get the size of a queue at all?)20:05
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alcabreraAlex_Gaynor: that's a tricky one. It's not possible in a single call, atm. By taking a look at /v1/queue/{name}/stats the moment before deleting, you can get the number of messages in that queue. However, that'll likely have changed by the time the delete is called, if it is an active queue, but it should be close.20:08
Alex_GaynorThat's fine, I don't think real users care about exact numbers, just the tests ;)20:08
kgriffsAlex_Gaynor: do you think it will be useful to basically truncate a queue without deleting it?20:08
kgriffsi mean, delete everything in it?20:08
kgriffsI've been toying with idea of supporting that in the 1.1 api20:09
Alex_Gaynorkgriffs: I think so, that way you don't have to worry about reconfiguring the metadata if you want to throw the data away20:09
kgriffsAlex_Gaynor: kk, that's kinda what I was thinking but I didn't have any user feedback on it20:09
Alex_Gaynorkgriffs: I haven't actually tried to use the kombo transport yet for anything remotely real, just running the fucntional tests :D20:10
kgriffs:D20:10
maliniI got my first tempest test running against devstack <:o)20:15
malinii.e a marconi-tempest test :)20:16
alcabreramalini: yay!20:21
malinithank you alcabrera..You are the only once who sees history when it happens ;)20:22
alcabreralol20:23
* alcabrera spends all his time on IRC, never gets any work done20:23
alcabrera:D20:23
alcabrera:D20:23
malini:D20:23
mpanettaJoin the club :P20:24
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Alex_GaynorHmm. So stats, there doesn't appear to be anything in the SDK yet for reading the stats?21:12
alcabreraAlex_Gaynor: that's correct. It's not there yet.21:14
alcabreraso that's: claims, stats, auto-paginating iterator, and health that are missing so far21:14
Alex_Gaynoralcabrera: Is there a review up for it yet, or shouold I start on one?21:14
alcabreralemme check21:15
alcabreraAlex_Gaynor: no reviews for any of those features yet21:15
Alex_Gaynorthanks21:15
alcabreraThe latest is: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-marconiclient,n,z21:16
alcabrerasome refactoring21:16
Alex_GaynorShould I wait for the refactoring before trying to send the stats one?21:16
alcabreraso given that the queues implementation is looking pretty solid, I think it's safe to take a shot at stats now.21:17
alcabreraI'd be more cautious about anything involving messages/claims21:17
kgriffsalcabrera: fwiw, I don't think health needs to be implemented21:23
kgriffsit's just something for a LB to ping21:23
kgriffsand the LB won't be using python-marconiclient :D21:24
alcabrerasounds good to me. If demand spikes for adding /v1/health support in python-marconiclient (for custom ops tools or something like it in our software-defined-future), it wouldn't be tough to add. :)21:25
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openstackgerritAlex Gaynor proposed a change to openstack/python-marconiclient: Expose the stats attribute on a queue.  https://review.openstack.org/6300522:39
Alex_GaynorOk patch up, if anyone can point me at how to go about adding tests that'd be great22:40
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