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| chandankumar | Hello | 14:06 |
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| chandankumar | i want to contribute to this marconi. | 14:06 |
| chandankumar | but i am not getting easier bugs to get started. | 14:07 |
| chandankumar | will you please provide one for me? | 14:07 |
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| flaper87 | chandankumar: hello | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | chandankumar: how are you doing? | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | I'm very glad to hear that | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | chandankumar: let me help you with that | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | chandankumar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/marconi/+bug/1239834 | 14:48 |
| mpanetta | ? | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | I just tagged that bug as low-hanging-fruit, Feel free to take it | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | mpanetta: 'sup ? | 14:48 |
| chandankumar | flaper87, thank you flapper | 14:48 |
| mpanetta | mornin flaper87 | 14:48 |
| mpanetta | I thought I was going crazy for a second, only seeing one side of the conversation heh | 14:48 |
| chandankumar | *flaper87 | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | mpanetta: you're going crazy but this is not the reason... | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:50 |
| chandankumar | flaper87, http://vmartinezdelacruz.com/getting-started-with-marconi-the-message-queue-for-openstack/ | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | mpanetta: and good morning! :) | 14:50 |
| chandankumar | flaper87, i am following to install marconi on f19 | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | chandankumar: awesome, it should still be valid, however, installing marconi is pretty simple | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | chandankumar: https://github.com/openstack/marconi | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | the readme has enough information | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | not all steps are required | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | for example, you can skip the config copying steps | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | and the mongodb thing | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | for development, sqlite is good enough | 14:51 |
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| * mpanetta is going crazier ;) | 14:53 | |
| mpanetta | I'm reading about the thing that does everything including making your breakfast, uwsgi... | 14:53 |
| cpallares | flaper87, mpanetta: o/ | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | mpanetta: thanks god it doesn't do lunch! | 14:54 |
| flaper87 | cpallares: helloooo!!! | 14:54 |
| flaper87 | there you are! How is the best mentee ever doing today? | 14:55 |
| cpallares | flaper87: :D | 14:55 |
| cpallares | flaper87: I'm good, thank you. How are you doing today? | 14:55 |
| mpanetta | mornin cpallares :) | 14:55 |
| chandankumar | flaper87, thanks :) | 14:55 |
| cpallares | good morning mpanetta | 14:56 |
| mpanetta | flaper87: yes, it is a bit excessive ;) | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | cpallares: I'm doing well! :) | 14:57 |
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| kgriffs | o/ | 15:06 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: yo yo yo yo | 15:06 |
| notmyname | what your current take on the openstack gate? any issues? any frustrations? | 15:07 |
| notmyname | I'm not sure how much marconi is using it yet.... | 15:07 |
| kgriffs | notmyname: be back in a bit - mtg | 15:08 |
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| alcabrera | Good morning/afternoon! :) | 15:46 |
| cpallares | alcabrera: o/ | 15:47 |
| ametts | alejandro: we're all in #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:48 |
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| flaper87 | cpallares: you need to reference this blueprints in the patches you submited: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/marconi/+spec/cross-transport-api-spec | 15:53 |
| flaper87 | Just amend the commit message and add Partially-Implements: cross-transport-api-spec | 15:54 |
| alcabrera | cpallares: good morning! :) | 15:54 |
| cpallares | which patches? | 15:55 |
| flaper87 | notmyname: we're working towards being fully integrated with the gate. The devstack lib for marconi landed a couple of weeks ago and malini is working on the tempest support | 15:55 |
| flaper87 | cpallares: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61476/ and the schema one | 15:55 |
| flaper87 | the ones you're working on that fix bugs need to have Closes-bug: #bugnumber | 15:55 |
| notmyname | what I've been tracking is http://not.mn/gate_status.html and that isn't a pretty picture | 15:56 |
| notmyname | kgriffs: BTW, we're definitely willing to discuss webob->swob or whatever you've got there | 15:57 |
| cpallares | flaper87, malini: speaking of which, what's the verdict on the schema patch and jsonschema package? Do I move it back to /api/v1? | 16:00 |
| flaper87 | cpallares: I vote for moving it back to /api/v1 | 16:01 |
| flaper87 | We won't support another schema lib, not for now. So, I'd like to avoid the extra package, path etc | 16:02 |
| flaper87 | malini: thoughts? | 16:02 |
| malini | sounds good | 16:02 |
| flaper87 | kk | 16:02 |
| flaper87 | thanks | 16:02 |
| alcabrera | I set the next meeting for Jan. 7, 2013, kgriffs, flaper87. | 16:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Cindy Pallares proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Added a request and response file to common https://review.openstack.org/61476 | 16:02 |
| * flaper87 goes and gets an espresso | 16:02 | |
| malini | I'll update my patch accordingly | 16:02 |
| flaper87 | alcabrera: sounds good | 16:02 |
| kgriffs | notmyname: gtk, thanks! I just started playing around with swob yesterday. Nice work! | 16:05 |
| notmyname | kgriffs: I didn't really follow your overall questions (I just saw "swift" mentioned) | 16:05 |
| kgriffs | notmyname: ah, I was just checking it out to see how it compared to webob | 16:06 |
| kgriffs | I promised the pecan guys at the summit to look at their stuff, and they mentioned how fuuugly webob was | 16:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Cindy Pallares proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Map HTTP request codes in jsonschema https://review.openstack.org/59508 | 16:07 |
| notmyname | kgriffs: "mostly drop in replacement" for webob was the goal | 16:07 |
| kgriffs | notmyname: yeah, it looked pretty similar at first glance, albeit with much nicer code | 16:07 |
| kgriffs | :p | 16:07 |
| notmyname | kgriffs: the main impetus was the fact that webob had a nasty habit of breaking compat on minor version bumps | 16:08 |
| kgriffs | makes sense. I remember seeing a note about that in the comments. | 16:09 |
| kgriffs | notmyname: it doesn't hurt that swob doesn't spool to a temp file, either. | 16:09 |
| notmyname | when does it do that? | 16:09 |
| kgriffs | webob can make an input stream seekable | 16:10 |
| kgriffs | looking at the code, it seemed to do that by default, but I could be wrong | 16:10 |
| notmyname | hmm..interesting. we never used that functionality in swift | 16:11 |
| alcabrera | I'll be back in a bit. | 16:11 |
| kgriffs | notmyname: I'll have to take another look to see when it does it for sure | 16:11 |
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| kgriffs | but anyway, i think the world could use a webob2 or webob-lite | 16:12 |
| kgriffs | just my $0.02 | 16:12 |
| notmyname | what functionality does pecan provide? | 16:12 |
| kgriffs | Pecan is a full-blown web app framework | 16:12 |
| kgriffs | sort of like a lighter django or rails | 16:13 |
| kgriffs | but heavier than, say, flask or bottle (or falcon) | 16:13 |
| notmyname | ah | 16:13 |
| notmyname | does it have an internal server? if so, is it any good for prod, or do you have to run it behind something else? | 16:14 |
| notmyname | is it compatible with eventlet? | 16:14 |
| kgriffs | from what I understand, you run it behind a WSGI server of your choosing | 16:14 |
| kgriffs | wrt eventlet, i'm not sure | 16:15 |
| kgriffs | notmyname: hmm - I don't see eventlet a dep. in pecan's requirements.txt | 16:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Cindy Pallares proposed a change to openstack/marconi: DRY queues storage error message format https://review.openstack.org/62701 | 16:17 |
| kgriffs | notmyname: just grepped for eventlet - only mention is in deployment.rst | 16:18 |
| kgriffs | I assume it is eventlet-compatible, but they don't do anything explicit with it | 16:18 |
| notmyname | ok, just curious. I've seen it mentioned in various places, but I wasn't sure what functionality it was providing | 16:18 |
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| mpanetta | woah | 16:37 |
| mpanetta | What he do to get klined? | 16:37 |
| * alcabrera just learned what k-linking is | 16:44 | |
| kgriffs | flaper87: I saw your note about the link table thing | 16:45 |
| kgriffs | i'm OK with doing it in another iteration | 16:45 |
| kgriffs | but, keep in mind, that it may be easier to write the queries without the join table in the first place | 16:45 |
| mpanetta | kgriffs: I fixed the bastion issue. | 16:52 |
| mpanetta | It was looking at both the new marconiconf and the old marconi-queues.conf, deleting the old marconi-queues.conf file and restarting fixed it. | 16:53 |
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| alcabrera | mpanetta: sweet | 16:57 |
| alcabrera | good to hear that the fix was simple | 16:57 |
| alcabrera | Though it's a little distressing that it attempted to use *all* the config files | 16:58 |
| mpanetta | yes | 16:58 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: back, sorry. Yeah, What I'd like to do is implement the driver and the queue controller first | 16:58 |
| flaper87 | then change that part before working on the message driver | 16:58 |
| flaper87 | so we can test it for sure, right away | 16:58 |
| flaper87 | hope that makes sense | 16:58 |
| flaper87 | guys, could you help me testing this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/32544/ | 16:59 |
| flaper87 | it works for me but it keeps failing in the gate | 16:59 |
| flaper87 | I'd like to make sure my laptop is not damned with eternal success | 17:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Malini Kamalambal proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Verify response jsonschema for List Messages by ID https://review.openstack.org/60858 | 17:01 |
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| alcabrera | flaper87: I'll give it a spin | 17:06 |
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| alcabrera | flaper87: does 'tox -e py27 -- tests.unit.test_memorycache' look right to you? | 17:07 |
| flaper87 | tests.unit.cache.test_cache | 17:08 |
| alcabrera | thanks! | 17:08 |
| flaper87 | alcabrera: thank you, btw! | 17:08 |
| alcabrera | you're welcome. :) | 17:09 |
| alcabrera | I'm looking forward to seeing oslo.cache land, so I'm happy to help that along | 17:09 |
| * alcabrera is creating a py27 env for oslo-incubator - it's massive | 17:09 | |
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| flaper87 | alcabrera: I've to step out now, we're having #PythonMilan today. Feel free to ping me on IRC, I'll read the messages later | 17:11 |
| flaper87 | maybe drop me a prv message | 17:11 |
| flaper87 | thank you very much! | 17:11 |
| mpanetta | Milan :) | 17:11 |
| mpanetta | I flew there on the way to Lugano heh | 17:12 |
| * flaper87 lives like 20km from Lugano | 17:12 | |
| * flaper87 lives in Lake Como | 17:12 | |
| mpanetta | That place is beautiful | 17:12 |
| flaper87 | mpanetta: it definitely is, I really love it! | 17:12 |
| flaper87 | kk, gtg | 17:12 |
| flaper87 | back in a bit | 17:12 |
| mpanetta | have a good night :) | 17:12 |
| mpanetta | Ah | 17:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Malini Kamalambal proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Verify response jsonschema for List Messages by ID https://review.openstack.org/60858 | 17:13 |
| alcabrera | flaper87|afk: enjoy! | 17:15 |
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| cpallares | alcabrera, is tox -e py27 -- tests.x.x.x how you test files individually? | 17:18 |
| alcabrera | cpallares: yup! | 17:20 |
| alcabrera | If you want to dive into an even more specific test, you can do | 17:20 |
| alcabrera | tox -e <env> -- tests.unit.queues.storage.test_mongodb_impl:TestSuiteName.test_method_name | 17:20 |
| cpallares | alcabrera: oh nice. I'm saving that somewhere. | 17:22 |
| cpallares | tox takes forever on my laptop | 17:22 |
| alcabrera | cool. It took me some time to figure it out. | 17:22 |
| alcabrera | I figured it out exactly because of that! | 17:22 |
| alcabrera | tox took too long! :P | 17:22 |
| alcabrera | especially when all I wanted to know was - "Is this new Redis driver queue operation working?" | 17:23 |
| cpallares | hahaha | 17:23 |
| alcabrera | "How about now?" | 17:23 |
| alcabrera | "Maybe now?" | 17:23 |
| alcabrera | yup | 17:23 |
| cpallares | I feel your pain. | 17:23 |
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| alcabrera | Be back in a bit. | 18:52 |
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| jraim | kgriffs ping | 20:30 |
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| kgriffs | jraim: pong | 20:35 |
| kgriffs | flaper87|afk: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62751/ | 20:42 |
| jraim | kgriffs was marconi a rax only thing when it first got started? | 20:43 |
| kgriffs | jraim: no | 20:46 |
| kgriffs | i mean, I initiated it | 20:46 |
| kgriffs | but it happened in an unconference session a few summits back | 20:47 |
| kgriffs | basically, i got a bunch of people from different companies in a room and first got consensus that this is something the community wanted | 20:47 |
| kgriffs | then, brainstormed requirements | 20:47 |
| kgriffs | then I went home and HP helped me set up a project on stackforge with gerrit and such | 20:48 |
| kgriffs | and I set up a wiki, and started writing up some stuff based on the unconference session | 20:48 |
| kgriffs | not long after we got someone from Red Hat to join in as a core contributor and we were off to the races | 20:48 |
| kgriffs | jraim: probably more than you wanted to know, but there it is. :) | 20:49 |
| amitgandhi | 0/ | 20:49 |
| kgriffs | amitgandhi: So, i guess this is relevant to your CDN idea | 20:50 |
| amitgandhi | yeh | 20:50 |
| amitgandhi | i want to start engaging the community come january on it | 20:50 |
| kgriffs | i think the key is to get stakeholders in the room for an initial brainstorming session | 20:50 |
| kgriffs | i did that with notifications as qell | 20:50 |
| kgriffs | you can seed the idea in the mailing list (openstack-dev) | 20:51 |
| kgriffs | but, IMO, email is a low-bandwidth, high-latency communication channel that is best avoided when it can be done | 20:51 |
| kgriffs | amitgandhi: so, you might want to round some people up for a meeting in openstack-meeting-alt and talk through and etherpad or something | 20:52 |
| kgriffs | may take several sessions and iterations over a few weeks | 20:52 |
| amitgandhi | yeh, i know the topic of an openstack cdn has come up a few times, but nothing has ever come of it (lower on the priority list) | 20:52 |
| amitgandhi | but i think now is the time, and need to get the players involved again | 20:52 |
| kgriffs | so, first key is to bring people to the table early on, and at critical points | 20:52 |
| kgriffs | for example, with marconi, i also held a series of API review meetings with the community | 20:53 |
| amitgandhi | yeh thats def the way i want to do it | 20:53 |
| kgriffs | second key is to get two core contributors from 2 companies - think of them as your anchor team members | 20:53 |
| amitgandhi | first step i guess is identifying who wants input and participation | 20:53 |
| kgriffs | yep | 20:53 |
| kgriffs | the solum guys did a good job with publicity at the HK summit | 20:54 |
| kgriffs | you can try for something similar in Atlanta | 20:54 |
| amitgandhi | for sure | 20:54 |
| kgriffs | do a lightning talk that advertises an unconference session | 20:54 |
| amitgandhi | try to get some basic seeded ideas before hand, and then ramp up at ATL | 20:54 |
| kgriffs | and bring t-shirts | 20:54 |
| kgriffs | and talk to people at cocktail parties | 20:55 |
| kgriffs | stuff like that | 20:55 |
| amitgandhi | u still owe me a marconi tshirt | 20:55 |
| kgriffs | :D | 20:55 |
| amitgandhi | btw megan has your cloud queues one | 20:55 |
| kgriffs | amitgandhi: gtk | 20:55 |
| kgriffs | amitgandhi: what size do you where? | 20:55 |
| kgriffs | wear | 20:55 |
| amitgandhi | M | 20:55 |
| kgriffs | you're in luck! | 20:55 |
| amitgandhi | =D | 20:55 |
| kgriffs | i only have like 3-4 left, and some of those are M | 20:55 |
| amitgandhi | shweet | 20:56 |
| kgriffs | so, now all we need is a good excuse to meet up | 20:56 |
| alcabrera | kgriffs: hmmm, marconi shirt - and I also wear a M... :D | 20:57 |
| amitgandhi | kgriffs: xmas party on thur | 20:58 |
| amitgandhi | kgriffs: thanks for the info above | 21:00 |
| amitgandhi | i'll look into getting thoughts early in the new year once everyone is back into working mode | 21:00 |
| mpanetta | I think I want to play with taskflow... | 21:11 |
| mpanetta | kgriffs, alcabrera have either of you guys looked at taskflow at all? | 21:17 |
| alcabrera | mpanetta: I've only looked at it a tiny bit | 21:21 |
| mpanetta | I want to use it for https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TaskFlow#Service_stop.2Fupgrade.2Frestart_.28at_any_time.29 | 21:22 |
| alcabrera | I can only tell you as much as you might;ve read, that it's associated with Mirantis' Mistral OS project, and that it looks pretty cool | 21:22 |
| mpanetta | Mistral looks real cool | 21:22 |
| mpanetta | I only need local workflow though for now. | 21:22 |
| alcabrera | mpanetta: looking at that, it's making me think of Cloud Upstart | 21:23 |
| alcabrera | or something like that | 21:23 |
| mpanetta | I want to have a way to be able to have more robust upgrade flows, and salt does not have a concept of rollback. | 21:23 |
| mpanetta | But I could have a salt state the could rollback and use something like taskflow to invoke it if some part of the upgrade fails. | 21:24 |
| mpanetta | alcabrera: Not familiar with that. | 21:24 |
| mpanetta | I am looking for the best way to do full tasks, I don't know if I should hack salt to do it or wrap salt to do it. | 21:25 |
| mpanetta | Or I am over thinking things again | 21:25 |
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| alcabrera | mpanetta: this thing: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ | 21:29 |
| alcabrera | hehe | 21:29 |
| mpanetta | oh that | 21:29 |
| alcabrera | yup | 21:29 |
| alcabrera | the initd replacement(?) | 21:29 |
| mpanetta | yes | 21:29 |
| mpanetta | I just have not heard of it in the context of cloud :) | 21:30 |
| alcabrera | Gotcha. My bad for not being clear. :) | 21:32 |
| mpanetta | No probs :) | 21:32 |
| alcabrera | The taskflow project makes me think of upstart, but cloud-enabled. :D | 21:32 |
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| kgriffs | amitgandhi: a couple more thoughts on starting an OS project | 21:46 |
| * amitgandhi listens | 21:47 | |
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| kgriffs | you will want to get Monty Taylor to set you up with stackforge from the beginning. Also, see if you can get a few technical committee members to assist in the beginning with code reviews. Finally, set up regular IRC meetings ala the core projects ASAP. | 21:48 |
| kgriffs | Monty Taylor - mordred on IRC - HP, works on openstack-infra team, member of TC and board | 21:49 |
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| kgriffs | anyway, the idea is to engage OS leadership from the beginning, and do things "the OpenStack way" from the beginning | 21:50 |
| kgriffs | I'm sure you'll come up with lots of other clever strategies too. | 21:51 |
| kgriffs | :D | 21:51 |
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| amitgandhi | nice | 21:57 |
| amitgandhi | will keep that in mind | 21:58 |
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| kgriffs | amitgandhi: tbh, I learned some of these tricks talking to the Trove guys | 22:04 |
| kgriffs | the topic of that discussion was "what *not* to do" | 22:04 |
| kgriffs | :p | 22:04 |
| amitgandhi | ok | 22:04 |
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