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| openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Support retrieve shares filtered by export-location https://review.openstack.org/448969 | 07:24 |
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| tommylikehu | ping jprovazn | 07:28 |
| jprovazn | tommylikehu: morning | 07:28 |
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| tommylikehu | jprovazn, yes It's a little later here | 07:29 |
| tommylikehu | jprovazn you don't need open the notes | 07:30 |
| jprovazn | tommylikehu: oh, good afternoon in that case | 07:30 |
| tommylikehu | we don't have time to discuss that. it's rearrange to next agenda | 07:30 |
| jprovazn | tommylikehu: aha, ack | 07:30 |
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| tommylikehu | jprovazn: I rewrite the commit message of the code patch, hope you could take a look I am not sure wheterh it's more clear | 07:31 |
| tommylikehu | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448384 | 07:31 |
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| tommylikehu | jprovazn: yes please enjoy that with your morning coffee | 07:32 |
| jprovazn | :) I will | 07:32 |
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| jprovazn | tommylikehu: I added a couple of minor comments to the patch, but overall I like this approach. I'll update the manila patch too | 08:05 |
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| tommylikehu | jprovazn: thanks for your comments, I will gather more response from both cinder and manila | 09:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for ensure share https://review.openstack.org/446494 | 09:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ramana Raja proposed openstack/manila master: cephfs/driver: add nfs protocol support https://review.openstack.org/424605 | 12:39 |
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| ganso | gouthamr: reno was with typos in the change you just +W'ed | 13:58 |
| gouthamr | ganso: sigh | 13:58 |
| ganso | gouthamr: I was just about to -1 | 13:59 |
| ganso | gouthamr: lol | 13:59 |
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| gouthamr | ganso: :) i can revert +W, i see your other question... I think more than the commit message, the driver version bump must be mentioned in the reno... | 14:00 |
| ganso | gouthamr: even if it is related? my question was only if the version bump was not related | 14:00 |
| gouthamr | ganso: i think it is a significant change to their driver, which is why they're bumping the driver version? | 14:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila master: Add possibility to run 'manila-api' with wsgi web servers https://review.openstack.org/448190 | 14:01 |
| bswartz | just fix the typos before the change gets through the gate and re-workflow it | 14:01 |
| ganso | gouthamr: I was not really sure of that lol, the behavior is not changed drastically | 14:01 |
| ganso | bswartz: maybe we can just remove the +W and rebase the change to abort the gate job | 14:02 |
| ganso | bswartz: so the owner can address the questions | 14:02 |
| gouthamr | ganso: afaics whenever you create a 1gb share, unity no longer creates a 3gb share on the back end. It will create a 1gb share | 14:02 |
| ganso | gouthamr: no, it creates a 3GB share, but only 1GB is usable | 14:02 |
| ganso | gouthamr: that's what I understood from Tina's reply to Tom | 14:02 |
| ganso | gouthamr: so 3GB share is still allocated | 14:03 |
| gouthamr | ganso: ah.. "A 1GB filesystem will still have 3GB allocated. But the usable space is not 3GB. All those will be handled by the python API." I missed that.. they're moving that logic to the driver's interface to the backend | 14:03 |
| ganso | gouthamr: yea, so that got me like "is this really the reason for the version bump?" | 14:04 |
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| ganso | gouthamr: anyway, there's some addressing to do, we should abort the gate job | 14:05 |
| bswartz | that behavior seems acceptable | 14:06 |
| bswartz | it's understood that shares can have "overheard" which isn't tenant visible | 14:06 |
| ganso | bswartz: I am not saying it is not acceptable lol | 14:07 |
| bswartz | well if there was old behavior where it gave you a 3gb share that would have been unacceptable | 14:08 |
| ganso | bswartz: I think that is the old behavior | 14:08 |
| ganso | bswartz: it looks fine to me that they are "fixing" that | 14:09 |
| gouthamr | yes afair, they had promised to fix it.. this predates forcing a minimum share size via driver functions... | 14:09 |
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| ganso | gouthamr: change is still in the gate, if it passed, it will merge, right? | 14:10 |
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| gouthamr | ganso: not if there is no +W | 14:11 |
| ganso | gouthamr: oh, ok then | 14:11 |
| tbarron | fwiw I like this change, for the better | 14:13 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: +1 | 14:13 |
| tbarron | and explain to me, if a backend bumps the version number on its driver, what does that require w.r.t reno, etc? | 14:13 |
| tbarron | this is a private version number except that the scheduler sees it I guess | 14:14 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: i presume every capability reported by the driver can be used in extra-specs | 14:14 |
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| tbarron | so old share types might not work? | 14:14 |
| gouthamr | yes | 14:14 |
| tbarron | ok, worth mentioning in reno then | 14:14 |
| tbarron | speaking of such matters, i'm currently of the opinion that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448446/ fixes a bug and shouldn't have a microversion bump | 14:16 |
| tbarron | ganso: ^^^ | 14:16 |
| bswartz | please don't microversion bug fixes | 14:17 |
| bswartz | I'm with tbarron on this one | 14:17 |
| zhongjun_ | lol | 14:18 |
| tbarron | ganso: but I agreed with you on the reno wording | 14:18 |
| ganso | tbarron: well I was following your lead lol | 14:18 |
| zhongjun_ | so I don't need to change code :) | 14:18 |
| tbarron | ganso: yeah, I asked for the microversion first when I hadn't thought it through well | 14:18 |
| tbarron | zhongjun_: but do adjust your reno wording a bit | 14:19 |
| ganso | tbarron: anyway, I said it was debatable... I don't have a strong feeling about it, and I just stated the rule of thumb. It is new information to me that bug fixes shouldn't be microversioned though, as bswartz just stated ^ | 14:19 |
| zhongjun_ | tbarron: ok | 14:19 |
| zhongjun_ | haha | 14:20 |
| bswartz | ganso: the rule of thumb that tbarron pointed to is the important one -- if there is no reason to preserve the old behavior for backward compatibility then no microversion bump is needed | 14:20 |
| ganso | bswartz: ok | 14:21 |
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| zhongjun_ | bswartz, ganso, tbarron, vponomaryov: hi guys, I list a few use cases about ensure share( link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446494/6/specs/pike/ensure-share.rst) I am cofused about what is the use case and problem that we need to solve in this ensure_share spec. We list many use cases in PTG, but I think maybe they should be separated | 14:30 |
| bswartz | zhongjun_: sorry it's confusing -- I'm afraid it's unavoidably so | 14:31 |
| bswartz | there are multiple problems to solve and multiple solutions that might work | 14:31 |
| bswartz | the discussion around ensure_share is supposed to focus on the subset of problems and solutions that could be done with ensure_share | 14:32 |
| bswartz | in particular, I'd like to focus on only things which can be done with no administrator interaction, and without creating scaling problems | 14:32 |
| tbarron | zhongjun_: you told me that your main concern was from a customer case, can you focus the spec on that very problem, more narrowly? | 14:33 |
| bswartz | if that excludes some use cases which are nevertheless very important, then we should mention those as future work to be done | 14:33 |
| tbarron | zhongjun_: just an idea. B/c as bswartz says there is a cluster of problems associated with "ensure share" and it is quite challenging to solve them all at once | 14:34 |
| zhongjun_ | How about I just solve the problem about update share information, not care about other resources(such as: snapshot.....) | 14:35 |
| zhongjun_ | tbarron: but there are some different minds from manila members, I want to check it | 14:36 |
| bswartz | zhongjun_: whatever problems we're able to solve, we should explain the user impact (deployer and end user) in the use case section | 14:36 |
| tbarron | zhongjun_: of course, I'm just a loud mouth. | 14:36 |
| zhongjun_ | bswartz: good idea, I could add the note: " future work ", I think there are a lot of future work. :D | 14:39 |
| bswartz | zhongjun_: yes it's very important to focus on some specific short term goals while not ignoring that there are longer term things we'd like to fix too | 14:44 |
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| zhongjun_ | tbarron: haha, no, you are a good guy, you always give me some good ideas. | 14:45 |
| zhongjun_ | bswartz: ok, It sounds more clearly and help me to continue my work. | 14:48 |
| zhongjun_ | bswartz, tbarron: thanks, :) | 14:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/manila master: Revert "Handle ssl for VNX manila driver" https://review.openstack.org/447065 | 15:40 |
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| ganso | zhongjun_, tbarron: https://review.openstack.org/448446 | 15:53 |
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| tbarron | zhongjun_: I know it's late for you, but can you put APIImpact in the commit msg? ^^^ | 15:58 |
| tbarron | ganso: if she has gone to bed, why don't we just do it? | 15:58 |
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| ganso | tbarron: I don't have a problem with that myself, but I am aware that some people here do not like when we do it | 16:04 |
| ganso | tbarron: I don't know about zhongjun_ though | 16:04 |
| tbarron | ganso: ok, we'll just wait | 16:04 |
| * tbarron often is impatient with process | 16:04 | |
| tommylikehu_ | I can | 16:05 |
| tommylikehu_ | if that would help | 16:05 |
| tbarron | tommylikehu_: it just needs ApiImpact I think, right ganso? | 16:07 |
| ganso | tbarron, tommylikehu_: yes | 16:07 |
| tommylikehu_ | ok | 16:07 |
| tbarron | tommylikehu_ never sleeps ... | 16:08 |
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| tommylikehu_ | tbarron: done, I need sleep :) | 16:10 |
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| tbarron | tommylikehu_: see you tomorrow, thanks. | 16:10 |
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| ganso | tommylikehu: thanks! | 16:20 |
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