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| openstackgerrit | Yingzhe Zeng proposed openstack/manila: huawei driver default create thin type share https://review.openstack.org/351475 | 06:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tatiana Ovchinnikova proposed openstack/manila-ui: Use parse_isotime filters for Share Replicas table columns https://review.openstack.org/368664 | 09:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Ha Van Tu proposed openstack/manila: [api-ref] Refactor limits and services API https://review.openstack.org/368581 | 09:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexey Ovchinnikov proposed openstack/manila: [DNM] More container driver tests https://review.openstack.org/366740 | 09:28 |
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| zhongjun_ | tbarron: hi :) | 11:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/python-manilaclient: Add support of Availability Zones API https://review.openstack.org/368746 | 11:09 |
| zhongjun_ | tbarron: Is it ok for IPv6 feature code that not change the our roll-your-own validation IPv4 for IPv4. Please see this link again,thanks: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312321/26/manila/api/v1/shares.py | 11:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/python-manilaclient: Add support of Availability Zones API https://review.openstack.org/368746 | 11:14 |
| openstackgerrit | yuyafei proposed openstack/python-manilaclient: Add __ne__ built-in function https://review.openstack.org/355157 | 11:22 |
| tbarron | zhongjun_: that's OK with me as long as we do the IPv4 routine as well, can be separate patch. I'll say so in the review. | 11:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Bin Zhou proposed openstack/manila: Modify use of assertTrue(A in B) https://review.openstack.org/368767 | 11:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila-ui: Read list of AZs using manila's API instead of nova's https://review.openstack.org/367992 | 11:55 |
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| zhongjun_ | tbarron: Thanks for review again | 12:06 |
| tbarron | zhongjun_: no problem, I guess we have to wait for O to merge these though | 12:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Alyson proposed openstack/manila: Add cleanup to create from snap in Manila HNAS driver https://review.openstack.org/356087 | 12:09 |
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| zhongjun_ | tbarron: yes, we could merge the first patch early in Ocata. :) | 12:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexey Ovchinnikov proposed openstack/manila: [DNM] More container driver tests https://review.openstack.org/366740 | 12:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alyson proposed openstack/manila: Fix access rules for managed shares in HSP driver https://review.openstack.org/366310 | 13:02 |
| ganso | vponomaryov, cknight, markstur, bswartz: Could you please review when you have some spare time? https://review.openstack.org/365136 thanks in advance | 13:04 |
| ganso | tbarron: ^ | 13:05 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: looking | 13:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexey Ovchinnikov proposed openstack/manila: [DNM] More container driver tests https://review.openstack.org/366740 | 13:10 |
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| vponomaryov | ganso: ping | 13:20 |
| ganso | vponomaryov: pong | 13:20 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: Hello Rodrigo | 13:21 |
| ganso | vponomaryov: Hi Valeriy | 13:21 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: what exactly did you want to say here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366856/2/doc/source/devref/share_back_ends_feature_support_mapping.rst ? | 13:21 |
| ganso | vponomaryov: we could map all drivers that are known to support host-assisted migration | 13:22 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: isn't host-assisted approach is driver-agnostic? | 13:22 |
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| ganso | vponomaryov: the approach is, but it does not guarantee that all drivers support it. See my comment in the reno of your other patch | 13:22 |
| vponomaryov | which one? | 13:23 |
| ganso | vponomaryov: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366833 | 13:23 |
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| vponomaryov | ganso: actually, in perfect world, we would report such capability | 13:24 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: until we do not do this, we should not distinguish it | 13:25 |
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| vponomaryov | anyhow in text | 13:25 |
| ganso | vponomaryov: oh, right... I see what you mean now, you're mapping what is in code | 13:25 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: so, right now it is called "we can try, but no guarantee" | 13:26 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: so, it is driver-agnostic | 13:26 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: as of now | 13:26 |
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| ganso | vponomaryov: updated the comment | 13:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clinton Knight proposed openstack/manila: NetApp cDOT driver autosupport broken https://review.openstack.org/368856 | 13:48 |
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| vponomaryov | ganso: in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366856/2/doc/source/devref/share_back_ends_feature_support_mapping.rst I use values that are available via API | 14:03 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: so, people looking at this table understand what values of migration-start args could be used with it | 14:04 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: and things you propose me to do are confusing to me, and, I suspect, with be confusing for lots of others too | 14:04 |
| vponomaryov | ы.цшер.цшдд. | 14:05 |
| vponomaryov | s/with/will/ | 14:05 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: same here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366833/1/releasenotes/notes/add-share-migration-support-in-zfsonlinux-driver-88e6da5692b50810.yaml | 14:09 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: I see that you are insisting on saying "support of 'host-assisted' migration in share driver", and exactly this is confusing to me, it is up-to-host only. So, it should be attribute of data-service, not share driver | 14:11 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: that is why saying "share migration in FOO driver" I mean that driver has implemented interfaces of share migration | 14:12 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: no more, no less. Host-assisted migration depends on data-service and driver-assisted on share driver. | 14:13 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: so, I guess, you need someone else from core team to weigh in | 14:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila-ui: Fix display of Delete share replica button https://review.openstack.org/368880 | 14:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-manilaclient: Add support of Availability Zones API https://review.openstack.org/368746 | 15:47 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: ping | 16:00 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: could you please make a 1.12 tag for manilaclient -> https://github.com/openstack/python-manilaclient/releases ? | 16:01 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: it is required for manila_ui | 16:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Fix Share Migration not allowing access https://review.openstack.org/365136 | 16:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-manilaclient: Add reno for availability-zone-list https://review.openstack.org/368935 | 17:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/manila: NetApp cDOT driver autosupport broken https://review.openstack.org/368856 | 18:32 |
| bswartz | ganso: I don't think I agree with this bug at all | 18:42 |
| ganso | bswartz: I just posted a comment | 18:43 |
| bswartz | We never discussed mounting the destination of a share before the migration was completed | 18:43 |
| ganso | bswartz: wait, what are you talking about? | 18:43 |
| bswartz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1619788 | 18:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1619788 in Manila "Share migration does not allow_access before migration_complete" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Rodrigo Barbieri (rodrigo-barbieri2010) | 18:44 |
| ganso | bswartz: what bug are you referring to | 18:44 |
| ganso | bswartz: oh that one | 18:44 |
| ganso | bswartz: yes we did, in the midcycle | 18:44 |
| bswartz | the problem is that for "writable" migrations, the data will continue to change until you call the migration complete | 18:45 |
| bswartz | so there is no point to mounting the destination | 18:45 |
| ganso | bswartz: yes, but for the purposes of validating the metadata preservation, he does not need to validate all the files | 18:45 |
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| bswartz | who asked for this? | 18:53 |
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| bswartz | the bug reporters for both bugs is you | 18:54 |
| bswartz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1594922 | 18:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1594922 in Manila "Share migration tempest test fail on driver optimized migration" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Rodrigo Barbieri (rodrigo-barbieri2010) | 18:54 |
| bswartz | ^ original bug | 18:54 |
| ganso | bswartz: yes | 18:56 |
| ganso | bswartz: so, I implemented this before, in the patch that merged before FF | 18:56 |
| bswartz | I guess this just isn't a use case that I think is important | 18:56 |
| ganso | bswartz: partially implemented, in fact | 18:56 |
| ganso | bswartz: but it had a bug | 18:56 |
| bswartz | If you don't trust that the cloud is migrating your data correctly, then you have bigger problems | 18:57 |
| bswartz | yeah I understand that the change already merged and this change fixes a bug in that change | 18:57 |
| ganso | bswartz: https://github.com/openstack/manila/blob/master/manila/share/api.py#L1351 | 18:57 |
| ganso | bswartz: that condition does not work | 18:57 |
| bswartz | still I debate the value of the original change | 18:57 |
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| ganso | bswartz: what is the disadvantage of having it? | 18:58 |
| bswartz | it seems to address a fairly narrow use case and possibly introduces significant problems for drivers that can't do it | 18:58 |
| bswartz | what about drivers for which the destination is not accessible until after the migration completes? | 18:58 |
| ganso | bswartz: according to the spec, this is only "whenever possible" | 18:58 |
| ganso | bswartz: gouthamr asked the same question | 18:59 |
| bswartz | any time we do a "whenever possible" kind of feature though it creates lots of confusion | 18:59 |
| ganso | bswartz: my response is that, if some drivers cannot do it, the export location will just not show up | 18:59 |
| bswartz | because users won't have a way to know whether the feature is usable on any given cloud | 18:59 |
| ganso | bswartz: humm, I implemented how we had previously discussed in the midcycle... if we do not want it now, then I should remove this capability completely and fix that condition in allow_access | 19:00 |
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| ganso | bswartz: ok so, is it best to remove? | 19:01 |
| bswartz | for newton it's best to just fix the bug and leave it as is | 19:02 |
| ganso | bswartz: ok | 19:02 |
| bswartz | We could revisit the capability in ocata and change it though | 19:02 |
| bswartz | but I was asking who requested it though because that's who should make the case for not removing it | 19:02 |
| gouthamr | it does make sense, in case of generic migration | 19:02 |
| ganso | bswartz: I am remember exactly, but I am 100% sure it was asked during midcycle | 19:03 |
| ganso | gouthamr: right, we possibly that host-assisted migration in mind when we discussed at the midcycle | 19:03 |
| ganso | gouthamr: possibly *had | 19:04 |
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| gouthamr | ganso: yes.. if optimized, i presume, for most drivers, it may not be easy to get export locations on the destination | 19:05 |
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| gouthamr | ganso: specially if the source has to remain writable, as bswartz pointed out above | 19:05 |
| ganso | bswartz, gouthamr: ok, let's revisit this in Ocata | 19:06 |
| ganso | bswartz, gouthamr: we will probably be able to resolve this question better when we have more drivers supporting driver-assisted migration | 19:06 |
| gouthamr | ganso: +1 | 19:06 |
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| ganso | gouthamr: in NetApp case, is it possible to provide the export location? | 19:07 |
| gouthamr | ganso: nope.. | 19:07 |
| ganso | gouthamr: hummm, ok. THanks! | 19:07 |
| bswartz | ganso: in ZFS case I'm not sure we'll always be able to either | 19:08 |
| bswartz | after we implement writable migration that is | 19:08 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: with the current implementation, you might be able to ... stop replication (i.e, break relationship) after phase 1 is complete, and push a snap delta at the beginning of phase 2.. | 19:11 |
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| gouthamr | not sure if its worth the effort though.. | 19:11 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: the more important question is why would we bother? | 19:22 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: as ganso mentioned earlier, maybe it was requested for the fallback case -> but then with the checksum implementation he did in newton, not sure its necessary.. | 19:24 |
| bswartz | people need to trust manila's migration implementation | 19:24 |
| ganso | gouthamr: checksum does not cover metadata | 19:24 |
| bswartz | if they don't trust it then they're better off rsyncing their own data | 19:24 |
| gouthamr | true... | 19:25 |
| gouthamr | ganso: when are you planning on adding docs? :P would be nice to cover these aspects in the documentation.. | 19:25 |
| ganso | gouthamr: once spec is merged | 19:27 |
| ganso | gouthamr: now it needs to be updated based on this discussion | 19:27 |
| gouthamr | ganso: hmmm, sure. will review and post any final comments today | 19:27 |
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| ganso | bswartz: could you please weigh in at this discussion? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366833/ | 20:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Rodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Improve Share Migration tempest tests https://review.openstack.org/366324 | 20:04 |
| bswartz | ganso: wow this is a pretty minor debate | 20:08 |
| bswartz | we're debating the wording of a release note? | 20:08 |
| ganso | bswartz: yes | 20:08 |
| bswartz | I can see the merit of both arguments | 20:08 |
| bswartz | I guess I lean towards your statement | 20:08 |
| bswartz | I'll vote -1 | 20:09 |
| ganso | bswartz: there may be another patch that introduces some changes to make ZFS work on host-assisted migration. So that patch would have a similar release note, and in that case, this one would be confusing | 20:09 |
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| ganso | bswartz: There's also this debate: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366856/ | 20:11 |
| ganso | bswartz: possibly more relevant than a release note | 20:11 |
| * bswartz sighs | 20:15 | |
| bswartz | I keep wanting that page to disappear and it keeps expanding | 20:15 |
| bswartz | I guess I need to spend some time on migrating (hah) the content of that page to openstack-manuals | 20:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/manila-ui: Read list of AZs using manila's API instead of nova's https://review.openstack.org/367992 | 20:19 |
| ganso | bswartz: lol | 20:19 |
| ganso | bswartz: I like that page :( | 20:19 |
| bswartz | there are multiple reasons to get rid of it | 20:20 |
| bswartz | the simplest is that it's the center of some horrible merge conflicts | 20:20 |
| bswartz | however the more important reason is that the source code isn't the right place for that kind of information | 20:21 |
| bswartz | it's ultimately admin-facing information and belongs in the docs, not the devref | 20:21 |
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