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korean101 | rm_work: hi! | 01:24 |
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korean101 | rm_work: i use octavia (0.10.1.dev25) / neutron-lbaas (10.0.0) | 01:24 |
korean101 | neutron (10.0.0) | 01:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Van Hung Pham proposed openstack/octavia master: Replace the usage of 'admin_manager' with 'os_admin' https://review.openstack.org/477357 | 03:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Van Hung Pham proposed openstack/octavia master: Replace the usage of 'admin_manager' with 'os_admin' https://review.openstack.org/477357 | 06:35 |
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openstackgerrit | tuninger proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas master: Add the code for updating the servers statistics based on haproxy stats data. Fixes Bug1699945. https://review.openstack.org/476848 | 09:41 |
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openstackgerrit | tuninger proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas master: Add the code for updating the servers statistics based on haproxy stats data. Fixes Bug1699945. https://review.openstack.org/476848 | 09:50 |
openstackgerrit | tuninger proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas master: Add the code for updating the servers statistics based on haproxy stats data. Fixes Bug1699945. https://review.openstack.org/476848 | 09:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas master: Send haproxy stat command as bytes https://review.openstack.org/474868 | 13:01 |
xgerman_ | o/ | 13:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas master: Send haproxy stat command as bytes https://review.openstack.org/474868 | 14:51 |
johnsom | o/ | 14:59 |
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cpuga | johnsom: I'll be sending out an email to openstack-dev so that we may discuss flavor spec. | 15:56 |
cpuga | johnsom: Is there a day/time you feel would be a best? | 15:56 |
johnsom | Not really. Some of us are on the west coast US, so a time that is compatible with that timezone would be good | 15:59 |
cpuga | k, I'll purpose a day/time and then we can narrow it down from there. thx. | 16:00 |
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xgerman_ | +1 | 16:15 |
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rm_work | nmagnezi: o/ | 17:41 |
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rm_work | i'm looking into that test failure | 17:43 |
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rm_work | ah michael missed one | 18:01 |
johnsom | It's from the rebase I think | 18:02 |
rm_work | fixing | 18:03 |
rm_work | ahhh yep | 18:03 |
rm_work | new | 18:03 |
rm_work | or ... no i don't think so? | 18:04 |
rm_work | well maybe | 18:04 |
rm_work | ah yeah | 18:04 |
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rm_work | ah there's another bug | 18:09 |
rm_work | i got it tho | 18:09 |
rm_work | just gonna be a bit, because i have to afk | 18:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Michael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia master: Add v2 L7 Policy API section https://review.openstack.org/477174 | 18:47 |
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johnsom | That section is ready for review | 18:49 |
johnsom | Two more to go. (after lunch) | 18:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack/octavia master: Allow operators to disable v1 or v2.0 api endpoints https://review.openstack.org/476690 | 20:18 |
rm_work | oh whoops nm i did that wrong | 20:19 |
rm_work | hey johnsom | 20:20 |
rm_work | we only have to deprecate once something has actually made an official release right? | 20:20 |
rm_work | paging/sorting was all THIS cycle, right? | 20:20 |
rm_work | so no deprecation? | 20:21 |
johnsom | Ah, interesting point | 20:21 |
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rm_work | i'm gonna snip those | 20:21 |
rm_work | that's like 75% | 20:21 |
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rm_work | johnsom: also nmagnezi's question is interesting... COULD WE turn off v1 by default? | 20:30 |
rm_work | or would that break everyone everywhere | 20:30 |
rm_work | we're still assuming neutron-lbaas is in use everywhere at this point, right? | 20:30 |
johnsom | Yeah, I was on the fence on that. | 20:30 |
rm_work | I *think* it's probably safer to leave it on | 20:30 |
johnsom | Yeah, it's used | 20:30 |
rm_work | but | 20:30 |
johnsom | We would have to put in some gate fixes to turn it on too | 20:31 |
rm_work | yeah bleh | 20:31 |
rm_work | just not feeling it | 20:31 |
rm_work | next cycle | 20:31 |
johnsom | +1 | 20:31 |
rm_work | k | 20:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack/octavia master: Allow operators to disable v1 or v2.0 api endpoints https://review.openstack.org/476690 | 20:33 |
openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack/octavia master: Allow operators to disallow creation of TLS Termination listeners https://review.openstack.org/476701 | 20:33 |
rm_work | ok | 20:33 |
rm_work | should be g2g | 20:34 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia master: Add v2 L7 Policy API section https://review.openstack.org/477174 | 20:34 |
rm_work | waiting on gates but it passes locally now | 20:34 |
johnsom | I guess you folks would be impacted by deprecating something inside the same cycle, but that is the pain of running master.... | 20:36 |
cpuga_ | johnsom: Not sure if you saw the [openstack-dev][octavia] email for flavor-spec I sent out. | 20:39 |
cpuga_ | johnsom: I received a response with a proposed time for 7:00am PDT on Thursday. | 20:39 |
johnsom | I haven't checked that e-mail yet today | 20:40 |
cpuga_ | johnsom: Is this a time that would work for west coast? | 20:40 |
xgerman_ | 7 am PDT is 4 am EST - not gonna happen | 20:41 |
xgerman_ | nah, 10 am… hate the time stuff | 20:41 |
johnsom | 10am | 20:41 |
cpuga_ | :) | 20:41 |
johnsom | Ummm, I can probably make that, but not sure if rm_work would be game | 20:42 |
cpuga_ | I can respond with 8:00am PDT if that works best for core team. | 20:42 |
rm_work | eh | 20:44 |
rm_work | i think the chances of me making a 7am meeting are SLIM but non-zero | 20:44 |
rm_work | but to be fair the times suck a lot for other people now | 20:44 |
rm_work | so i'd be a hypocrite to refuse | 20:44 |
johnsom | rm_work What about the 8am cpuga_ proposed? | 20:45 |
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xgerman_ | sam propsoed something else… | 21:02 |
rm_work | johnsom: hey, BTW is it supposed to reload the policy file on EVERY request? | 21:03 |
rm_work | johnsom: looks like we're seeing some performance issues with the API now and ... | 21:03 |
rm_work | every request it's being like "reloading policy file" | 21:03 |
rm_work | Reloading cached file /etc/octavia/policy.json read_cached_file /var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python2.7/site-packages/oslo_policy/_cache_handler.py:40 | 21:04 |
rm_work | Reloaded policy file: /etc/octavia/policy.json _load_policy_file/var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python2.7/site-packages/oslo_policy/policy.py:681 | 21:04 |
rm_work | it IS cached | 21:04 |
rm_work | so maybe that's just annoying logging | 21:04 |
johnsom | Yeah, I saw that too | 21:04 |
rm_work | but performance is ... bad | 21:04 |
rm_work | like | 21:04 |
rm_work | timeout bad | 21:04 |
rm_work | sometimes | 21:04 |
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johnsom | Hmmm, any details on what they were doing? Do you front the API with haproxy? That log would be interesting to look at | 21:06 |
rm_work | we do | 21:06 |
rm_work | api is running in kubernetes | 21:06 |
rm_work | which means there's the kube haproxy in front of it | 21:07 |
johnsom | Ok, so take a look at the haproxy logs, they should have timing info for the requests. | 21:09 |
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rm_work | eh it's not in haproxy | 21:10 |
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rm_work | i'm seeing that it took 10s to do a LB List | 21:10 |
rm_work | ehhh maybe no | 21:10 |
johnsom | Yeah, I didn't mean it was haproxy causing the problem, just that it should have the requests and how long they took | 21:10 |
rm_work | hmm | 21:11 |
rm_work | actually i just found one request that took us .2 seconds to process but 10s on the requertor side | 21:11 |
rm_work | to nm | 21:11 |
rm_work | *requestor side | 21:11 |
rm_work | *so nm | 21:11 |
rm_work | fff can't type today | 21:11 |
johnsom | But if you can get it to do it with an lb list, then I guess we don't need that. | 21:11 |
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rm_work | problem is it's hard to repro, kinda intermittent | 21:12 |
cpuga_ | xgerman_: "sam proposed something else..."? | 21:13 |
johnsom | Yeah, the other thing to check is the DB logs | 21:13 |
cpuga_ | xgerman_: The email I received proposes 9:00am CDT which is 7:00am PDT. | 21:13 |
johnsom | Worst case, turn on TRACE logging for a bit | 21:13 |
cpuga_ | xgerman_: Was there another email that perhaps I'm missing? | 21:13 |
xgerman_ | nah, I am bad with timzeones | 21:14 |
xgerman_ | that’s all | 21:14 |
xgerman_ | no other e-mail | 21:14 |
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cpuga_ | xgerman_: k, no worries it happens to me too | 21:14 |
cpuga_ | rm_work: would you be okay with 7:00am or would you prefer 8:00am? | 21:14 |
rm_work | 8am would make me slightly more likely to make it | 21:15 |
rm_work | i honestly prefer like 2am meetings to 8am :P | 21:15 |
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rm_work | but i can't hold the world to my schedule | 21:15 |
rm_work | if i had that kind of power, i wouldn't be working here... | 21:15 |
johnsom | Yeah, 8am is better for me | 21:15 |
cpuga_ | k, I'll respond with 8:00am | 21:16 |
cpuga_ | Is the day Thursday good with you all? | 21:16 |
johnsom | Yeah, I can do Thursday | 21:16 |
cpuga_ | rm_work:,xgerman_: Thursday good also? | 21:18 |
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rm_work | 2017-06-26 21:17:21.312 12 INFO octavia.cmd.api [-] Starting API server on ('0.0.0.0',):9876 | 21:23 |
rm_work | 2017-06-26 21:17:21.312 12 CRITICAL octavia [-] Unhandled error: TypeError: coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, tuple found | 21:23 |
rm_work | johnsom: ^^ wut how is that happening | 21:23 |
rm_work | see ('0.0.0.0',) | 21:23 |
rm_work | wut | 21:23 |
johnsom | Does your config have 0.0.0.0 in the bind_host? | 21:24 |
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rm_work | compare to | 21:25 |
rm_work | 2017-06-26 21:24:37.810 12 INFO octavia.cmd.api [-] Starting API server on 0.0.0.0:9876 | 21:25 |
rm_work | something that merged recently caused that | 21:25 |
rm_work | that's the difference between my image from last week and this week with the same config | 21:25 |
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rm_work | @johnsom: yep | 21:29 |
johnsom | I mean, it's an IPOpt so, not sure how that can be a tuple | 21:31 |
rm_work | yeah <_< | 21:33 |
rm_work | found it | 21:35 |
rm_work | about to find out who typo'd | 21:35 |
rm_work | me I think | 21:35 |
johnsom | When you have a second, interested in your input on:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/477045/2/octavia/common/exceptions.py | 21:36 |
rm_work | yep | 21:36 |
rm_work | i have a typo in my new patch | 21:36 |
rm_work | it isn't merged yet :P | 21:36 |
rm_work | (but i'm using it internally already) | 21:36 |
openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack/octavia master: Allow operators to disable v1 or v2.0 api endpoints https://review.openstack.org/476690 | 21:37 |
rm_work | didn't notice in gate because gate uses apache uwsgi | 21:37 |
rm_work | johnsom: commented | 21:42 |
johnsom | Thanks | 21:42 |
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JudeC | johnsom: I am working on the statuses/statistics stuff I got it working by using the _lookup override. I created a new controller for the status tree response, should I make that controller its own file or can that live within the load_balancer.py controller as another class? | 21:53 |
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johnsom | JudeC It can live in the load_balancer.py | 21:54 |
JudeC | awesome ty :) | 21:54 |
eandersson | Silly question, but for neutron-lbaas, removing the lazy='joined' could that have a negative impact on anything besides performance? | 21:59 |
eandersson | in the sqlalchemy model | 21:59 |
eandersson | e.g. https://github.com/openstack/neutron-lbaas/blob/master/neutron_lbaas/db/loadbalancer/models.py#L196 | 22:00 |
eandersson | removing those and all list operations are drastically faster | 22:03 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia master: Correct RBAC Not Authorized status code https://review.openstack.org/477045 | 22:12 |
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johnsom | eandersson I think the only impact might be more load on your database, but I suspect it's going to load that stuff anyway, so probably not much point in the lazy loading. | 22:27 |
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eandersson | Yea - that is what I believe as well. | 22:27 |
eandersson | The performance impact is huge | 22:28 |
johnsom | Cut it in half? | 22:28 |
eandersson | 10s vs 3s | 22:28 |
eandersson | with 30 LBs with attached pools and listeners | 22:29 |
eandersson | Do you mind if I do a quick WIP pull request to run the full test suit? | 22:29 |
johnsom | Go ahead | 22:29 |
eandersson | Thanks johnsom | 22:30 |
openstackgerrit | Erik Olof Gunnar Andersson proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas master: [WIP] Remove unnecessary lazy-loaded queries https://review.openstack.org/477698 | 22:32 |
rm_work | I wonder if we did anything similar in octavia | 22:34 |
rm_work | with lazy-loading prematurely | 22:34 |
johnsom | I'm pretty sure we did not do that in octavia | 22:34 |
rm_work | k | 22:34 |
johnsom | Yeah, I don't see it | 22:35 |
rm_work | i'm going to have to figure out how to do a performance analysis on our new API | 22:36 |
rm_work | because this is wonky | 22:36 |
rm_work | it's *intermittent* slowness | 22:36 |
rm_work | it's like ... | 22:36 |
rm_work | .2 .2 .2 .2 .2 10.2 | 22:36 |
eandersson | Yea - Octavia looks good | 22:36 |
rm_work | (seconds for a list LB response for the same user) | 22:37 |
johnsom | Hmmm | 22:37 |
rm_work | it could be any number of things | 22:37 |
rm_work | could be my DB connection | 22:37 |
johnsom | Well, like I said, you could turn on TRACE (for a while) | 22:37 |
rm_work | could be kubernetes oversubscription | 22:37 |
rm_work | hmmm | 22:37 |
rm_work | i might do that | 22:37 |
rm_work | HOW do I do that | 22:37 |
rm_work | debug is a boolean | 22:37 |
rm_work | is there trace=True ? | 22:38 |
johnsom | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366497/ | 22:41 |
johnsom | I see mention of CONF.default_log_levels | 22:42 |
johnsom | I know it can be done, Helion had it on by default | 22:42 |
xgerman_ | for some time we got the neutron log config | 22:47 |
xgerman_ | in Helion BTW | 22:47 |
rm_work | what's this one? | 22:49 |
rm_work | 2017-06-26 22:39:13.068 11 WARNING keystonemiddleware.auth_token [-] AuthToken middleware is set with keystone_authtoken.service_token_roles_required set to False. This is backwards compatible but deprecated behaviour. Please set this to True. | 22:49 |
rm_work | not relevant, but while we're fixing annoying messages | 22:50 |
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johnsom | For backwards compatibility the service_token_roles_required option in [keystone_authtoken] was added. The option defaults to False and has been immediately deprecated. This will allow the current behaviour that service tokens are validated but not checked for roles to continue. The option should be set to True as soon as possible. The option will default to True in a future release. | 23:02 |
rm_work | hmm so we should have | 23:02 |
rm_work | that enabled | 23:03 |
rm_work | i wonder hwat that actually does | 23:03 |
johnsom | The write up is here: https://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/keystonemiddleware/ocata.html | 23:03 |
rm_work | ahh interesting | 23:03 |
rm_work | wellllll | 23:04 |
rm_work | we're on Liberty | 23:04 |
rm_work | sooooo | 23:04 |
rm_work | (I mean, Keystone is) | 23:04 |
rm_work | so lulz | 23:05 |
rm_work | I don't even know if setting this on the Octavia side will ... DO anything | 23:05 |
johnsom | Right, not sure either | 23:05 |
rm_work | i don't quite understand, wouldn't ALL of this validation be on the keystone side? | 23:05 |
rm_work | the client can't say "actually don't validate my roles plz"? | 23:05 |
rm_work | <_< | 23:05 |
johnsom | Yeah, maybe it only matters is WE accept service tokens, but we don't, so... | 23:06 |
rm_work | I'm gonna... uhh... set it | 23:07 |
rm_work | and see what happens | 23:07 |
rm_work | I'll report back ;P | 23:07 |
rm_work | johnsom: under POST for l7policies | 23:19 |
rm_work | In the response, the L7 policy provisioning status is ACTIVE, PENDING_CREATE, or ERROR. | 23:19 |
rm_work | `provisioning status` is a link? to... ??? | 23:20 |
rm_work | it sends me to the top of the page | 23:20 |
rm_work | i don't know what that's supposed to do | 23:20 |
johnsom | Yeah, different browsers seem to handle that differently.... | 23:20 |
rm_work | hmmm | 23:20 |
rm_work | this is Chrome O_o | 23:20 |
rm_work | it goes to #prov-status | 23:20 |
rm_work | it's not supposed to be like | 23:20 |
rm_work | #provisioning-status ? | 23:20 |
johnsom | It goes here: https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/load-balancer/v2/index.html#status-codes | 23:21 |
rm_work | oh weird | 23:21 |
rm_work | so if i copy the link | 23:21 |
rm_work | and past it into the address bar | 23:21 |
rm_work | it works | 23:21 |
rm_work | *paste | 23:21 |
rm_work | but clicking is just broken | 23:21 |
rm_work | k <_< whatever | 23:21 |
johnsom | Yeah, it works in firefox | 23:21 |
johnsom | I just write the restructuredtext code... | 23:22 |
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rm_work | sooooo | 23:24 |
rm_work | does n-lbaas do returns on PUT/DELETE ? | 23:24 |
rm_work | I wonder if we could ... remove those | 23:24 |
rm_work | <_< | 23:24 |
johnsom | No return on delete | 23:25 |
johnsom | But PUT there is output | 23:25 |
rm_work | fff | 23:26 |
rm_work | k | 23:26 |
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rm_work | there we go | 23:28 |
openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack/octavia master: DELETE operations don't actually return data (204) https://review.openstack.org/477709 | 23:28 |
rm_work | IMO we have to be careful | 23:29 |
rm_work | because once we release Pike | 23:29 |
rm_work | we're going to be stuck with mistakes | 23:29 |
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johnsom | Yeah, good news on those, it wasn't actually returning anything as the return type was None. We were just wasting cycles. | 23:30 |
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rm_work | yeah lol | 23:31 |
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rm_work | but | 23:32 |
rm_work | i am concerned about other possible cases of that | 23:32 |
johnsom | That is why I spent so much time going through and comparing the two APIs. | 23:32 |
rm_work | yeah | 23:32 |
johnsom | I need to go back and look at those bugs I opened and see if they are still bugs or not. | 23:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Erik Olof Gunnar Andersson proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas master: [WIP] Remove unnecessary lazy-loaded queries https://review.openstack.org/477698 | 23:36 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia master: Correct RBAC Not Authorized status code https://review.openstack.org/477045 | 23:52 |
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